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2006-02-15 Thread Carl A Jeptha
Can I have a list of the above for the 900  3.4 - 3.5 (Municipal) 
frequencies please


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Re: [WISPA] 900 client and omni antennas

2006-02-15 Thread Rick Smith

GD9-15
http://www.pacwireless.com/products/GD9-15_datasheet.pdf


Travis Johnson wrote:

What is the part number for this grid? I don't see it on Pac Wireless' 
homepage?


Travis
Microserv

Rick Smith wrote:

Actually, Tom, I was skeptical of the 15dbi grid  as well, so I 
grabbed one it worked... worked well as I remember.   I pulled it 
out of the box at a customer's site where we SWORE it would work with 
a 13 yagi, but it didn't, and it made a Canopy link usable...


They're awkward as hell, but the funny thing is, you can use the SAME 
grid and replace the horn someday if situations change and you happen 
to gain LOS to the same tower... :)


At around $75, they're not too bad on the wallet, either.

Tom DeReggi wrote:

The large 3 ft 18 dbi round one sure looks cool, when you have space 
to mount a 3 ft parabolic dish. Not many homeowners would allow that 
one on the roof. However, I'm scared to use the 15 dbi ones, Its the 
same grid as 2.4Ghz.  I have a hard time believing a grid designed 
for 2.4Ghz works well for 900Mhz as well. I have no testing 
experience with it to know one way or the other.
 
We've used the Pac Omnis, solid parabolics, and panels, andthey've 
all worked well as spec'd.  Tom DeReggi

RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
 
 


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What about the pacwireless grid’s?


 



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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] 900 client and omni antennas

The best client antenna in 900 depends on the typical weather /
environment, not just specifically best antenna.

To combat heavy foliage in very Rural areas (dry summer
months), M2inc's - 17 dbi Yagis have been invaluable to gain
maximum RSSI, to penetrate the trees.  However, they become
useless in Winter weather, when they get ice buildup on them.

In a ice/snow heavy environment, panel antennas are MUCH 
better,

for example the built-in 10dbi antenna of Trango 900 radios, to
get max allowed RSSI in a weather resistent panel enclosure.  The
F/B is poor (only 12 db), but often the best choice for ease,
cost, and Dual pol flexibilty.

In high noise areas, such as Urban or colocated near paging 
gear,

a high quality antenna like MTI's 10 dbi panel, offers maximum F/B
ratio, to block out interference. Not much can out perform them,
but at a trade off of cost and flexibility of pol change on the 
fly.


When Yagi's can be mounted low for easy access, (within Gorilla
Ladder height (18 feet), and for residential where I can afford to
take the risk of not having pol change on the fly (usually
consistent noise floor on a polarity), I don't hesitate to install
a Yagi as my first choice.  Often Verticle is less desirable
interference any way, based on paging companies.  However, for
critical links, installing the M2inc yagis are risky. They
mounting method is horrible. It allows a lot of play for the Yagi
to move in heavy winds.  If mounted high on a steep roof, I avoid
the Yagi unless they are absolutely necessary, because they need
mcuh more frequent attention. For example to wipe the snow off of
them, or re-align.

There are someother Yagis that have more secure double point
mounts, around 12-15 dbi, if you can afford to give up the 2 db.

As for verticle Omni type client antennas, for example for 
mobile

apps, I have no advice.

 Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

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*From:* Rick Harnish mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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*Sent:* Monday, February 13, 2006 1:11 PM

*Subject:* [WISPA] 900 client and omni antennas

What are the 900 client antennas of choice as well 
as omni

directionals.  I would like a solution that can get 5-6 miles
NLOS.  We don’t have a lot of dense foliage that we have tried
to penetrate up until now but are looking for a solution for
select cells.

Respectfully,

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RE: [WISPA] Motel setup

2006-02-15 Thread chris cooper
Use quality access points- consumer grade gear will bite your
behind.Back them up to a good AAA box.  We hand out UN/passwds to the
front desk on a weekly basis.  Keeps the access from being completely
open and reduces hassle.

chris

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Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 7:59 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Motel setup

What's the currently recommended gear / setup for a motel?  Total of 113
rooms spread over 2 floors.  Going to be a 2-phrase project where the
first
group of rooms will have both Ethernet and Wi-Fi accessibility, with the
remaining to have WiFi only.  No idea yet on the layout of which rooms
will
be Ethernet / WiFi, but that's not really important.  Owner is running
the
Ethernet cabling himself - just looking to contract out the Wireless end
of
it.

I don't know much more than this at the moment.  Not sure on square
footage
or anything - that is to come soon, but thought I'd get some ideas on
equipment to start and then go from there.

Thanks a bunch!

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Re: [WISPA] Motel setup

2006-02-15 Thread Bo Hamilton
From what Im told calubrus (spelling?) is the thing to have. I personaly use MT for hotspot and Proxim AP2000 or 700's for the radio's.

Bo
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What's the currently recommended gear / setup for a motel?Total of 113rooms spread over 2 floors.Going to be a 2-phrase project where thefirstgroup of rooms will have both Ethernet and Wi-Fi accessibility, with the
remaining to have WiFi only.No idea yet on the layout of which roomswillbe Ethernet / WiFi, but that's not really important.Owner is runningtheEthernet cabling himself - just looking to contract out the Wireless end
ofit.I don't know much more than this at the moment.Not sure on squarefootageor anything - that is to come soon, but thought I'd get some ideas onequipment to start and then go from there.
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Re: [WISPA] 900 client and omni antennas

2006-02-15 Thread Tom DeReggi

Thanks, Thats good to know.
How are they in the Snow?
I'm assuming they do fine?

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900 client and omni antennas


Actually, Tom, I was skeptical of the 15dbi grid  as well, so I grabbed 
one it worked... worked well as I remember.   I pulled it out of the 
box at a customer's site where we SWORE it would work with a 13 yagi, but 
it didn't, and it made a Canopy link usable...


They're awkward as hell, but the funny thing is, you can use the SAME grid 
and replace the horn someday if situations change and you happen to gain 
LOS to the same tower... :)


At around $75, they're not too bad on the wallet, either.

Tom DeReggi wrote:

The large 3 ft 18 dbi round one sure looks cool, when you have space to 
mount a 3 ft parabolic dish. Not many homeowners would allow that one on 
the roof. However, I'm scared to use the 15 dbi ones, Its the same grid 
as 2.4Ghz.  I have a hard time believing a grid designed for 2.4Ghz works 
well for 900Mhz as well. I have no testing experience with it to know one 
way or the other.
 We've used the Pac Omnis, solid parabolics, and panels, andthey've all 
worked well as spec'd. Tom DeReggi

RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

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*To:* 'WISPA General List' mailto:wireless@wispa.org
*Sent:* Monday, February 13, 2006 8:11 PM
*Subject:* RE: [WISPA] 900 client and omni antennas

What about the pacwireless grid’s?




*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Tom DeReggi
*Sent:* Monday, February 13, 2006 2:11 PM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] 900 client and omni antennas


The best client antenna in 900 depends on the typical weather /
environment, not just specifically best antenna.


To combat heavy foliage in very Rural areas (dry summer
months), M2inc's - 17 dbi Yagis have been invaluable to gain
maximum RSSI, to penetrate the trees.  However, they become
useless in Winter weather, when they get ice buildup on them.


In a ice/snow heavy environment, panel antennas are MUCH better,
for example the built-in 10dbi antenna of Trango 900 radios, to
get max allowed RSSI in a weather resistent panel enclosure.  The
F/B is poor (only 12 db), but often the best choice for ease,
cost, and Dual pol flexibilty.


In high noise areas, such as Urban or colocated near paging gear,
a high quality antenna like MTI's 10 dbi panel, offers maximum F/B
ratio, to block out interference. Not much can out perform them,
but at a trade off of cost and flexibility of pol change on the fly.


When Yagi's can be mounted low for easy access, (within Gorilla
Ladder height (18 feet), and for residential where I can afford to
take the risk of not having pol change on the fly (usually
consistent noise floor on a polarity), I don't hesitate to install
a Yagi as my first choice.  Often Verticle is less desirable
interference any way, based on paging companies.  However, for
critical links, installing the M2inc yagis are risky. They
mounting method is horrible. It allows a lot of play for the Yagi
to move in heavy winds.  If mounted high on a steep roof, I avoid
the Yagi unless they are absolutely necessary, because they need
mcuh more frequent attention. For example to wipe the snow off of
them, or re-align.


There are someother Yagis that have more secure double point
mounts, around 12-15 dbi, if you can afford to give up the 2 db.


As for verticle Omni type client antennas, for example for mobile
apps, I have no advice.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband



- Original Message -

*From:* Rick Harnish mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

*To:* 'WISPA General List' mailto:wireless@wispa.org

*Sent:* Monday, February 13, 2006 1:11 PM

*Subject:* [WISPA] 900 client and omni antennas


What are the 900 client antennas of choice as well as omni
directionals.  I would like a solution that can get 5-6 miles
NLOS.  We don’t have a lot of dense foliage that we have tried
to penetrate up until now but are looking for a solution for
select cells.


Respectfully,


**/Rick Harnish/**

/President/

/OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc./

/260-827-2482 Office/

/260-307-4000 Cell/

/260-918-4340 VoIP/

/www.oibw.net http://www.oibw.net//

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Re: [WISPA] 900 client and omni antennas

2006-02-15 Thread Rick Smith

so far so good :)   we're in NJ...

Tom DeReggi wrote:


Thanks, Thats good to know.
How are they in the Snow?
I'm assuming they do fine?

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900 client and omni antennas


Actually, Tom, I was skeptical of the 15dbi grid  as well, so I 
grabbed one it worked... worked well as I remember.   I pulled it 
out of the box at a customer's site where we SWORE it would work with 
a 13 yagi, but it didn't, and it made a Canopy link usable...


They're awkward as hell, but the funny thing is, you can use the SAME 
grid and replace the horn someday if situations change and you happen 
to gain LOS to the same tower... :)


At around $75, they're not too bad on the wallet, either.

Tom DeReggi wrote:

The large 3 ft 18 dbi round one sure looks cool, when you have space 
to mount a 3 ft parabolic dish. Not many homeowners would allow that 
one on the roof. However, I'm scared to use the 15 dbi ones, Its the 
same grid as 2.4Ghz.  I have a hard time believing a grid designed 
for 2.4Ghz works well for 900Mhz as well. I have no testing 
experience with it to know one way or the other.
 We've used the Pac Omnis, solid parabolics, and panels, andthey've 
all worked well as spec'd. Tom DeReggi

RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

- Original Message -
*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* 'WISPA General List' mailto:wireless@wispa.org
*Sent:* Monday, February 13, 2006 8:11 PM
*Subject:* RE: [WISPA] 900 client and omni antennas

What about the pacwireless grid’s?



 



*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Tom DeReggi
*Sent:* Monday, February 13, 2006 2:11 PM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] 900 client and omni antennas


The best client antenna in 900 depends on the typical weather /
environment, not just specifically best antenna.


To combat heavy foliage in very Rural areas (dry summer
months), M2inc's - 17 dbi Yagis have been invaluable to gain
maximum RSSI, to penetrate the trees.  However, they become
useless in Winter weather, when they get ice buildup on them.


In a ice/snow heavy environment, panel antennas are MUCH better,
for example the built-in 10dbi antenna of Trango 900 radios, to
get max allowed RSSI in a weather resistent panel enclosure.  The
F/B is poor (only 12 db), but often the best choice for ease,
cost, and Dual pol flexibilty.


In high noise areas, such as Urban or colocated near paging gear,
a high quality antenna like MTI's 10 dbi panel, offers maximum F/B
ratio, to block out interference. Not much can out perform them,
but at a trade off of cost and flexibility of pol change on the 
fly.



When Yagi's can be mounted low for easy access, (within Gorilla
Ladder height (18 feet), and for residential where I can afford to
take the risk of not having pol change on the fly (usually
consistent noise floor on a polarity), I don't hesitate to install
a Yagi as my first choice.  Often Verticle is less desirable
interference any way, based on paging companies.  However, for
critical links, installing the M2inc yagis are risky. They
mounting method is horrible. It allows a lot of play for the Yagi
to move in heavy winds.  If mounted high on a steep roof, I avoid
the Yagi unless they are absolutely necessary, because they need
mcuh more frequent attention. For example to wipe the snow off of
them, or re-align.


There are someother Yagis that have more secure double point
mounts, around 12-15 dbi, if you can afford to give up the 2 db.


As for verticle Omni type client antennas, for example for mobile
apps, I have no advice.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband



- Original Message -

*From:* Rick Harnish mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

*To:* 'WISPA General List' mailto:wireless@wispa.org

*Sent:* Monday, February 13, 2006 1:11 PM

*Subject:* [WISPA] 900 client and omni antennas


What are the 900 client antennas of choice as well as omni
directionals.  I would like a solution that can get 5-6 miles
NLOS.  We don’t have a lot of dense foliage that we have tried
to penetrate up until now but are looking for a solution for
select cells.


Respectfully,


**/Rick Harnish/**

/President/

/OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc./

/260-827-2482 Office/

/260-307-4000 Cell/

/260-918-4340 VoIP/

/www.oibw.net 

Re: [WISPA] Motel setup

2006-02-15 Thread Dylan Oliver
That's 'Colubris', and I've been talkng to them myself this week.
Beware that the first layer of contact there is woefully ignorant of
things like channels! Has anyone used their stuff?

The really top-notch vendor of wi-fi gear is Meru
(http://www.merunetworks.com). However, you would have to purchase not
only three access points but also a controller for a total of $2k.Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC
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RE: [WISPA] Wispcon?

2006-02-15 Thread Charles Wu
Title: Message



Hi 
Chris,

Here 
is something that Steve Stroh (who is a member of this listserv and who speaks 
at ALL shows including WISPCON, ISPCON, WiNOG) wrote about 
WiNOG

http://www.winog.com/austin_2006/vendors/what_i_learned_at_winog.pdf

(P.S. 
-- he wasn't paid by us to do this or anything)

-Charles


---WiNOG Austin, TXMarch 
13-15, 2006http://www.winog.com 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  chris cooperSent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 6:59 
  AMTo: 'WISPA General List'Subject: [WISPA] 
  Wispcon?
  
  
  
  
SO 
what do most folks here do about shows like wispcon? I attended the 
one in DC last year and it appeared to be sparsely attended both on the wisp 
and vendor sides. I always thought the shows were a good chance to get 
together and share ideas etc. Do you value them? If you could 
attend one show would it be wispcon/ispcon/winog?
Thanks,

chris
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RE: [WISPA] Motel setup

2006-02-15 Thread Paul Hendry
I notice this kit is 11b only. Is there a specific reason for using 11b for
hotspots instead of 11g? I'm guessing it's because of the greater output
power and receive sensitivity of 11b but isn't OFDM better for bouncing
around the walls of a Hotel?

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Sent: 15 February 2006 06:36
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] Motel setup

Get about 3 of these things and you should be fine.
http://tranzeo.com/uploaded_images/117_10_5_TR-600f%20Series.pdf

Put ceiling omni's on them I would put one in the center of the
building, and the remaining two towards the ends of the building.



Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
114 S. Walnut St.
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com


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Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:59 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Motel setup

What's the currently recommended gear / setup for a motel?  Total of 113
rooms spread over 2 floors.  Going to be a 2-phrase project where the
first
group of rooms will have both Ethernet and Wi-Fi accessibility, with the
remaining to have WiFi only.  No idea yet on the layout of which rooms
will
be Ethernet / WiFi, but that's not really important.  Owner is running
the
Ethernet cabling himself - just looking to contract out the Wireless end
of
it.

I don't know much more than this at the moment.  Not sure on square
footage
or anything - that is to come soon, but thought I'd get some ideas on
equipment to start and then go from there.

Thanks a bunch!

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[WISPA] CB3 to Tranzeo 6000

2006-02-15 Thread Jason Hensley
Title: Message



Anyone have a pointer with this? I can't get it to connect correctly 
as just a bridge - I've had to enable WDS on the 6000. But, when I 
enable WDS, all other clients on the 6000 drop and can't get access, even 
though they are shown as associated.CB3 is about 150yards away and 
works great, but it's the only thing working.Any help on this would be 
GREATLY appreciated
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[WISPA] Charter Communications

2006-02-15 Thread JohnnyO




Anyone using Charter Cable for their upstream connection into your network ?

How has the experience / performance / reliability been ?

JohnnyO



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[WISPA] AAT, the largest private U.S. tower operator

2006-02-15 Thread George

Here's another tower company.
They are being sold. They say they are the largest private tower company.

Maybe this can be helpful to one of our wisps.

http://yahoo.reuters.com/stocks/QuoteCompanyNewsArticle.aspx?storyID=urn:newsml:reuters.com:20060130:MTFH48402_2006-01-30_22-49-48_N30312791symbol=AMT.N


George
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Re: [WISPA] CB3 to Tranzeo 6000

2006-02-15 Thread Anthony Morin
Is it a CB3 deluxe? I couldn't get the older CB3's to connect either.Does the 6000 have the latest firmware?Jason Hensley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Anyone have a pointer with this? I can't get it to connect correctly as just a bridge - I've had to enable WDS on the 6000. But, when I enable WDS, all other clients on the 6000 drop and can't get access, even though they are shown as associated.CB3 is about 150yards away and works great, but it's the only thing working.Any help on this would be GREATLY appreciated-- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives:
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[WISPA] CRTC Contact

2006-02-15 Thread Carl A Jeptha
I am looking for the contact name of the above. I think Marlon sent 
something. I have looked in my archive and cannot find anything.


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[WISPA] bandwidth

2006-02-15 Thread A. Huppenthal
Last month, the FCC officially opened up the use of the middle band of 
the Unlicensed National Information Infrastructure (UNII) spectrum 
(5.470 GHz to 5.725 GHz) to 54Mbps 802.11a Wi-Fi networks in the United 
States. The band adds another 255 MHz and 11 channels to the existing 
325 MHz and 13 channels available for Wi-Fi in this band.


As of January 20, any products that apply for certification in the 5.470 
GHz to 5.725 GHz band or in the lower end of the UNII band at 5.25 
GHz to 5.35 GHz, were required to support dynamic frequency selection 
(DFS) and transmit power control (TPC) to minimize interference, per a 
February 2005 FCC order 
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-05-43A1.pdf.


From Joanie Wexler...


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RE: [WISPA] Motel setup

2006-02-15 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
B is more reliable than G, otherwise wisps would be using G but instead
they are using B.

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
114 S. Walnut St.
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com


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I notice this kit is 11b only. Is there a specific reason for using 11b
for
hotspots instead of 11g? I'm guessing it's because of the greater output
power and receive sensitivity of 11b but isn't OFDM better for bouncing
around the walls of a Hotel?

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Get about 3 of these things and you should be fine.
http://tranzeo.com/uploaded_images/117_10_5_TR-600f%20Series.pdf

Put ceiling omni's on them I would put one in the center of the
building, and the remaining two towards the ends of the building.



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Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com


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Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:59 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Motel setup

What's the currently recommended gear / setup for a motel?  Total of 113
rooms spread over 2 floors.  Going to be a 2-phrase project where the
first
group of rooms will have both Ethernet and Wi-Fi accessibility, with the
remaining to have WiFi only.  No idea yet on the layout of which rooms
will
be Ethernet / WiFi, but that's not really important.  Owner is running
the
Ethernet cabling himself - just looking to contract out the Wireless end
of
it.

I don't know much more than this at the moment.  Not sure on square
footage
or anything - that is to come soon, but thought I'd get some ideas on
equipment to start and then go from there.

Thanks a bunch!

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[WISPA] RADIUS + StarOS + bandwidth ?

2006-02-15 Thread David E. Smith
After a few really trying days in the office, I've got our shiny new
billing system, with integrated RADIUS and possibly a toaster oven,
humming along. Now that I've got a fancy computer thingy to keep track of
customers, I'd like to automate and centralize a few more things in my
network.

StarOS supports RADIUS for just about everything, and (at least in a small
trial of one AP, that's only serving one customer) I can get the AP to
allow/deny customers access based on their CPE MAC. That's the easy part
:)

What would be really swell, though, would be if I could tie customers'
bandwidth allocations into this as well. Valemount's Web site does have a
(teensy) RADIUS dictionary, but the bandwidth attributes all have PPPOE
in the name, which at least implies that customer bandwidth can only be
set if they're using PPPOE.

I have no pressing desire to replace a few hundred CPEs and routers and
walk customers through installing PPPOE software and... well, you get the
idea. (Right now, we're primarily using MAC authentication and setting
customer bandwidth allocations by hand in each AP, but that means changes
have to be made at each tower, and having everything centralized would
just be spiffy, I think.)

So. Does anyone know whether I can set customer bandwidth allocations with
StarOS, without switching the whole network to PPPOE?

David Smith
MVN.net


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RE: [WISPA] bandwidth

2006-02-15 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Motorola 5.4Ghz gear.

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
114 S. Walnut St.
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com


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Are any vendors shipping products which are FCC certified for these
frequencies?

Thanks

Dan


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 Subject: [WISPA] bandwidth
 
 Last month, the FCC officially opened up the use of the middle band of
 the Unlicensed National Information Infrastructure (UNII) spectrum
 (5.470 GHz to 5.725 GHz) to 54Mbps 802.11a Wi-Fi networks in the
United
 States. The band adds another 255 MHz and 11 channels to the existing
 325 MHz and 13 channels available for Wi-Fi in this band.
 
 As of January 20, any products that apply for certification in the
5.470
 GHz to 5.725 GHz band or in the lower end of the UNII band at 5.25
 GHz to 5.35 GHz, were required to support dynamic frequency selection
 (DFS) and transmit power control (TPC) to minimize interference, per a
 February 2005 FCC order
 http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-05-43A1.pdf.
 
  From Joanie Wexler...
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] RADIUS + StarOS + bandwidth ?

2006-02-15 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
The tag was named, descriptively, for the first application it was
intended for.  The thing about radius attributes, is they are just a
number, and can be used for any purpose, even Hotspot bandwidth
control, which the Hotspot Server recognizes and uses.

Lonnie



On 2/15/06, David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 After a few really trying days in the office, I've got our shiny new
 billing system, with integrated RADIUS and possibly a toaster oven,
 humming along. Now that I've got a fancy computer thingy to keep track of
 customers, I'd like to automate and centralize a few more things in my
 network.

 StarOS supports RADIUS for just about everything, and (at least in a small
 trial of one AP, that's only serving one customer) I can get the AP to
 allow/deny customers access based on their CPE MAC. That's the easy part
 :)

 What would be really swell, though, would be if I could tie customers'
 bandwidth allocations into this as well. Valemount's Web site does have a
 (teensy) RADIUS dictionary, but the bandwidth attributes all have PPPOE
 in the name, which at least implies that customer bandwidth can only be
 set if they're using PPPOE.

 I have no pressing desire to replace a few hundred CPEs and routers and
 walk customers through installing PPPOE software and... well, you get the
 idea. (Right now, we're primarily using MAC authentication and setting
 customer bandwidth allocations by hand in each AP, but that means changes
 have to be made at each tower, and having everything centralized would
 just be spiffy, I think.)

 So. Does anyone know whether I can set customer bandwidth allocations with
 StarOS, without switching the whole network to PPPOE?

 David Smith
 MVN.net


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Re: [WISPA] CRTC Contact

2006-02-15 Thread Marlon K. Schafer

what's crtc?
marlon

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I am looking for the contact name of the above. I think Marlon sent 
something. I have looked in my archive and cannot find anything.


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Re: [WISPA] RADIUS + StarOS + bandwidth ?

2006-02-15 Thread David E. Smith
Lonnie Nunweiler wrote:
 The tag was named, descriptively, for the first application it was
 intended for.  The thing about radius attributes, is they are just a
 number, and can be used for any purpose, even Hotspot bandwidth
 control, which the Hotspot Server recognizes and uses.

So I can just put VNC-PPPoE-CBQ-RX and VNC-PPPoE-CBQ-TX in my RADIUS Reply
packet and it'll do what I expect? Neat!

David Smith
MVN.net
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Re: [WISPA] RADIUS + StarOS + bandwidth ?

2006-02-15 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
so what system do you have in place?




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From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:28 PM
Subject: [WISPA] RADIUS + StarOS + bandwidth ?


 After a few really trying days in the office, I've got our shiny new
 billing system, with integrated RADIUS and possibly a toaster oven,
 humming along. Now that I've got a fancy computer thingy to keep track of
 customers, I'd like to automate and centralize a few more things in my
 network.

 StarOS supports RADIUS for just about everything, and (at least in a small
 trial of one AP, that's only serving one customer) I can get the AP to
 allow/deny customers access based on their CPE MAC. That's the easy part
 :)

 What would be really swell, though, would be if I could tie customers'
 bandwidth allocations into this as well. Valemount's Web site does have a
 (teensy) RADIUS dictionary, but the bandwidth attributes all have PPPOE
 in the name, which at least implies that customer bandwidth can only be
 set if they're using PPPOE.

 I have no pressing desire to replace a few hundred CPEs and routers and
 walk customers through installing PPPOE software and... well, you get the
 idea. (Right now, we're primarily using MAC authentication and setting
 customer bandwidth allocations by hand in each AP, but that means changes
 have to be made at each tower, and having everything centralized would
 just be spiffy, I think.)

 So. Does anyone know whether I can set customer bandwidth allocations with
 StarOS, without switching the whole network to PPPOE?

 David Smith
 MVN.net


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