Re: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave

2008-10-08 Thread Mac Dearman
I too will have to give props to Deliberant's support. 

  We recently came in to several areas where a company had folded up shop
after their USDA grant money ran out. They had 90% Deliberant gear and we
were trying to re-use the customers current radios so there wouldn't be such
an expense on these folks who were left holding the bag and no internet
service available to them. To make a long story short - - Sharon (our
Secretary, accountant, receptionist, install scheduler, tech support person,
payroll dept, accounts receivable dept and mother of all my children) called
Deliberant (specifically Caleb) who so graciously sent firmware and led het
through the process of being able to reuse their radios. It goes a long way
to these country folks who were already overcharged for these radios to NOT
have to buy a new CPE or pay a large install fee when they have already been
down that road. The former company had given wireless a black eye in these
towns and Deliberants support helped the recover the wireless name when we
were able to get them all back on line for a minimal $$ to the end user.

Thanks Caleb!!


Mac Dearman







 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Joe Miller
 Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 9:03 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave
 
 I knew Caleb was lurking around here somewhere.
 
 I have been buying equipment from Caleb (Deliberant) for a number of
 years. I have always been able to call him when I have an issue with a
 radio. If I leave a messege on his voice mail, he always calls me back.
 Even if it is after his business hours, I have gotten returned calls
 from Caleb. I have stayed with this company because of this. I haven't
 found any company that has better customer service than
 Deliberant/Ligowave. I have bought equipment from other companies, but
 it takes days for resolving an issue with the equipment. I do not have
 the time or patience for slow technical support. Or find out that I
 have to go further up the totum pole to get the next tier support. With
 Caleb...the buck stops with him.
 
 Disclaimer: I have not been paid for these statements. I am not telling
 you anything you do not already know if you have any history with this
 company.
 
 DSLbyAir, LLC
 
 
 --- On Mon, 10/6/08, Caleb Knauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  From: Caleb Knauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Cc: Deliberant Support [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 6:30 PM
  Hey Marlon,
 
  I wanted to reply to this to you and on the lists to answer
  your
  questions and make some things clearer, as there are some
  points of
  confusion that can definitely be cleared up (now and going
  forward) on
  our part.
 
  Deliberant and Ligowave are sister companies.  Originally
  our new CPE
  offerings were going to be launched on the Ligowave side of
  the house,
  but we decided to move all of the standards (802.11) stuff
  to Deliberant
  and focus Ligowave on the proprietary (PTP, PTMP, Mesh)
  solutions.  The
  first round of gear shipped with the Ligowave FCC stickers
  as the
  updated Deliberant ones were not available yet, hence the
  different
  stickers.  Everything now has Deliberant stickers on them.
 
 
  VPOL is with the cat5 connector pointing down, you are
  correct.  HPOL is
  with the cat5 connector to the side (rotated 90*).
  Confusing, yes, and
  the stickers should be here soon.
 
  We do need to add the instructions for the cat5 connector
  and the
  support number to the quick start guide.  The first one is
  always the
  trickiest!
 
  The support number is the main number at 800-742-9865, and
  it is open
  9-5 Eastern.  My direct extension is in my signature.
 
  We are completely overhauling the GUI with a Flex backend
  that is much
  faster.  We have a beta available, so contact me offlist if
  you are
  interested.
 
  RSSI value listed on the Status page is basically the
  difference between
  received signal and the noise floor.  So if you have an
  RSSI value of
  40, there is 40dB between the noise floor and what you are
  receiving.
  We have plans to add the actual received level (in dB) to
  the Status
  page soon, and until then if you do a Site Survey on the
  Tools page you
  can see the levels there as well.
 
  Bridge mode should work, but I have some ideas.  Shoot me
  your IP info
  offlist (radio, gateway, rest of the local network segment,
  etc) and we
  can troubleshoot.
 
  When you enable Router mode, a Firewall tab should appear
  that will
  allow you to port forward.
 
  Any other questions, please feel free to ping me offlist or
  give me a
  ring at my number and extension in my signature.  We
  appreciate the
  feedback and look forward to your (and everyone else's)
  assistance in
  improving our products.
 
  Thanks,
  Caleb
 
  ===
  Caleb Knauer
  Deliberant 

Re: [WISPA] Wimax world news?

2008-10-08 Thread Gino Villarini
Well, lets hear it!  I was unable to attend, even tough I really wanted!

Gino A. Villarini
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Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 11:27 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax world news?

Nothing terribly exciting at WiMAX World

WiNOG, on the other hand...

grin

-Charles


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Any interesting news?



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From: Adam Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 4:33 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Radwin 2000

Hi,

Has anyone heard of or used products by Radwin (www.radwin.com)?

I understand they are releasing the Radwin 2000 series of 5.x GHz
point-to-point links in the US in November.

The price is very attractive.

My main concern is performance  reliability. We can test the
performance within a short period of time, but not the reliability
(would need to have the link up for a while to do that). We are
considering these for a critical  2 mi. link.

Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave

2008-10-08 Thread Joe Miller
Mac,

Kick me off an email off list. joe dot miller at dslbyair dot com. I have a 
question for you. 

Did not mean to hi jack the thread.

Joe


--- On Wed, 10/8/08, Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 7:58 AM
 I too will have to give props to
 Deliberant's support. 
 
   We recently came in to several areas where a company had
 folded up shop
 after their USDA grant money ran out. They had 90%
 Deliberant gear and we
 were trying to re-use the customers current radios so there
 wouldn't be such
 an expense on these folks who were left holding the
 bag and no internet
 service available to them. To make a long story short - -
 Sharon (our
 Secretary, accountant, receptionist, install scheduler,
 tech support person,
 payroll dept, accounts receivable dept and mother of all my
 children) called
 Deliberant (specifically Caleb) who so graciously sent
 firmware and led het
 through the process of being able to reuse their radios. It
 goes a long way
 to these country folks who were already overcharged for
 these radios to NOT
 have to buy a new CPE or pay a large install fee when they
 have already been
 down that road. The former company had given
 wireless a black eye in these
 towns and Deliberants support helped the recover the
 wireless name when we
 were able to get them all back on line for a minimal $$ to
 the end user.
 
 Thanks Caleb!!
 
 
 Mac Dearman
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of Joe Miller
  Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 9:03 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave
  
  I knew Caleb was lurking around here somewhere.
  
  I have been buying equipment from Caleb (Deliberant)
 for a number of
  years. I have always been able to call him when I have
 an issue with a
  radio. If I leave a messege on his voice mail, he
 always calls me back.
  Even if it is after his business hours, I have gotten
 returned calls
  from Caleb. I have stayed with this company because of
 this. I haven't
  found any company that has better customer service
 than
  Deliberant/Ligowave. I have bought equipment from
 other companies, but
  it takes days for resolving an issue with the
 equipment. I do not have
  the time or patience for slow technical support. Or
 find out that I
  have to go further up the totum pole to get the next
 tier support. With
  Caleb...the buck stops with him.
  
  Disclaimer: I have not been paid for these statements.
 I am not telling
  you anything you do not already know if you have any
 history with this
  company.
  
  DSLbyAir, LLC
  
  
  --- On Mon, 10/6/08, Caleb Knauer
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   From: Caleb Knauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave
   To: WISPA General List
 wireless@wispa.org
   Cc: Deliberant Support
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 6:30 PM
   Hey Marlon,
  
   I wanted to reply to this to you and on the lists
 to answer
   your
   questions and make some things clearer, as there
 are some
   points of
   confusion that can definitely be cleared up (now
 and going
   forward) on
   our part.
  
   Deliberant and Ligowave are sister companies. 
 Originally
   our new CPE
   offerings were going to be launched on the
 Ligowave side of
   the house,
   but we decided to move all of the standards
 (802.11) stuff
   to Deliberant
   and focus Ligowave on the proprietary (PTP, PTMP,
 Mesh)
   solutions.  The
   first round of gear shipped with the Ligowave FCC
 stickers
   as the
   updated Deliberant ones were not available yet,
 hence the
   different
   stickers.  Everything now has Deliberant stickers
 on them.
  
  
   VPOL is with the cat5 connector pointing down,
 you are
   correct.  HPOL is
   with the cat5 connector to the side (rotated
 90*).
   Confusing, yes, and
   the stickers should be here soon.
  
   We do need to add the instructions for the cat5
 connector
   and the
   support number to the quick start guide.  The
 first one is
   always the
   trickiest!
  
   The support number is the main number at
 800-742-9865, and
   it is open
   9-5 Eastern.  My direct extension is in my
 signature.
  
   We are completely overhauling the GUI with a Flex
 backend
   that is much
   faster.  We have a beta available, so contact me
 offlist if
   you are
   interested.
  
   RSSI value listed on the Status page is basically
 the
   difference between
   received signal and the noise floor.  So if you
 have an
   RSSI value of
   40, there is 40dB between the noise floor and
 what you are
   receiving.
   We have plans to add the actual received level
 (in dB) to
   the Status
   page soon, and until then if you do a Site Survey
 on the
   Tools page you
   can see the levels there as well.
  
   Bridge mode should work, but I have some 

[WISPA] Taikan radios

2008-10-08 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Hi All,

I just installed a unit from this company.  They are out of Kansas.

The unit ships with 50' of cat 5 attached.  I don't think we need that, but 
I'll admit it was nice to avoid weather sealing etc.

The mount isn't the greatest, it's just a zip tie or a hose clamp.  Easy but 
non adjustable.

The unit is very small, certainly a nice change from what most are shipping 
these days.  I loved the smaller box size too!  I hate having to cram big 
shipping boxes into my rig.

Bridging is the only option.

Speeds to an MT AP were good.  Right in there with other g radios I've used 
of late.  This unit shows a disconnect yesterday just like most of the other 
radios from this MT AP.

www.taikan.com

Overall, I'd say that with a couple of minor changes and a price adjustment 
($200 for a VERY low gain cpe seems a bit steep to me these days) these 
might be nice units.

laters,
marlon




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Re: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave

2008-10-08 Thread Matt Jenkins
This does not exist on the old Deliberant radios. There is still an ssh 
interface but it does give you a Linux shell like the new ones do. I 
think this applies to everything before Ligo got involved with Deliberant.

Tom DeReggi wrote:
 For those that don't know, Ligo also has a SSH interface, with Linux shell 
 access.
 Its a real quick way to get radio stats and do tests.
 All using the standard tools Linux users are familiar with.
 For example ping, ps, iwconfig
 I completely forgot about it, until reminded tonight.
 
 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 12:19 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave
 
 
 Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
 H, sounds like a good project for a wispa committee to work on.  Care 
 to
 head up that effort?
 I can certainly try to coordinate people, but I'm nowhere near qualified
 to run the show. I can take names with the best of 'em, though.

 (Anyone interested in contributing to a hypothetical wireless MIB
 standardization project, please contact me OFF-LIST, and I'll see if we
 have enough brains to make it happen.)

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Re: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave

2008-10-08 Thread Matt Jenkins
You current software for the LigoPTP radios uses standard SNMP OIDs for 
traffic interfaces. At least it does in Cacti.

I would really like to see Cacti templates for things like db, snr, etc.


Matt Hardy wrote:
 Hi David, 
 A couple of responses :)
 
 
 I'd be happy if more vendors would standardize on SNMP, at the very
 least, and ideally export things like signal (and/or SNR) in a usable way.

 Ligowave doesn't export signal levels anywhere in their (very minimal) MIB, 
 instead asking you to use their proprietary software. 
 
 A few customers have requested these stats be exposed via SNMP, so we have 
 now added a couple of custom MIBs to the software that provide information 
 not found in the standard 802.11 SNMP MIBs (such as association count, signal 
 level, etc). This should be available soon (For both LigoWave and Deliberant)
 
 If you want to win my undying affection, get a couple dozen vendors to 
 adopt a unified wireless MIB structure.
 
 We'd be happy to work together with other vendors and provide a more 
 standardized wireless stats MIB as an extension to the 802.11 MIB for 
 standards based stats (receive signal level, noise level, etc). 
 
 
 Best Regards,
 
 Matt Hardy
 LigoWave
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave

2008-10-08 Thread David E. Smith
Matt Jenkins wrote:
 You current software for the LigoPTP radios uses standard SNMP OIDs for 
 traffic interfaces. At least it does in Cacti.
 
 I would really like to see Cacti templates for things like db, snr, etc.

The standard interface traffic OIDs are there on most of the recent 
Ligo/Deliberant radios. Works automatically with The Dude and MRTG too.

As for SNR and other RF stats, we'll probably have to wait for an 
updated firmware that supports these new MIBs (Matt said it'll be 
available soon). I'm looking forward to it. :)

David Smith
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Re: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave

2008-10-08 Thread Eric Muehleisen
Put a LigoPTP on a public IP and I'll whip us some quick cacti templates.

-Eric

Matt Jenkins wrote:
 You current software for the LigoPTP radios uses standard SNMP OIDs for 
 traffic interfaces. At least it does in Cacti.

 I would really like to see Cacti templates for things like db, snr, etc.


 Matt Hardy wrote:
   
 Hi David, 
 A couple of responses :)


 
 I'd be happy if more vendors would standardize on SNMP, at the very
 least, and ideally export things like signal (and/or SNR) in a usable way.

 Ligowave doesn't export signal levels anywhere in their (very minimal) MIB, 
 instead asking you to use their proprietary software. 
   
 A few customers have requested these stats be exposed via SNMP, so we have 
 now added a couple of custom MIBs to the software that provide information 
 not found in the standard 802.11 SNMP MIBs (such as association count, 
 signal level, etc). This should be available soon (For both LigoWave and 
 Deliberant)

 
 If you want to win my undying affection, get a couple dozen vendors to 
 adopt a unified wireless MIB structure.
   
 We'd be happy to work together with other vendors and provide a more 
 standardized wireless stats MIB as an extension to the 802.11 MIB for 
 standards based stats (receive signal level, noise level, etc). 


 Best Regards,
 
 Matt Hardy
 LigoWave




 
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Re: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave

2008-10-08 Thread Joe Miller
Eric,

Can you post them when you are done?


--- On Wed, 10/8/08, Eric Muehleisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Eric Muehleisen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 1:30 PM
 Put a LigoPTP on a public IP and I'll whip us some quick
 cacti templates.
 
 -Eric
 
 Matt Jenkins wrote:
  You current software for the LigoPTP radios uses
 standard SNMP OIDs for 
  traffic interfaces. At least it does in Cacti.
 
  I would really like to see Cacti templates for things
 like db, snr, etc.
 
 
  Matt Hardy wrote:

  Hi David, 
  A couple of responses :)
 
 
  
  I'd be happy if more vendors would
 standardize on SNMP, at the very
  least, and ideally export things like signal
 (and/or SNR) in a usable way.
 
  Ligowave doesn't export signal levels
 anywhere in their (very minimal) MIB, 
  instead asking you to use their proprietary
 software. 

  A few customers have requested these stats be
 exposed via SNMP, so we have now added a couple of custom
 MIBs to the software that provide information not found in
 the standard 802.11 SNMP MIBs (such as association count,
 signal level, etc). This should be available soon (For both
 LigoWave and Deliberant)
 
  
  If you want to win my undying affection, get a
 couple dozen vendors to 
  adopt a unified wireless MIB structure.

  We'd be happy to work together with other
 vendors and provide a more standardized wireless stats MIB
 as an extension to the 802.11 MIB for standards based stats
 (receive signal level, noise level, etc). 
 
 
  Best Regards,
  
  Matt Hardy
  LigoWave
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave

2008-10-08 Thread Randy Cosby
Wouldn't that require that the ligowave have those snmp strings available?

Randy


Joe Miller wrote:
 Eric,
 
 Can you post them when you are done?
 
 
 --- On Wed, 10/8/08, Eric Muehleisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 From: Eric Muehleisen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 1:30 PM
 Put a LigoPTP on a public IP and I'll whip us some quick
 cacti templates.

 -Eric

 Matt Jenkins wrote:
 You current software for the LigoPTP radios uses
 standard SNMP OIDs for 
 traffic interfaces. At least it does in Cacti.

 I would really like to see Cacti templates for things
 like db, snr, etc.

 Matt Hardy wrote:
   
 Hi David, 
 A couple of responses :)


 
 I'd be happy if more vendors would
 standardize on SNMP, at the very
 least, and ideally export things like signal
 (and/or SNR) in a usable way.
 Ligowave doesn't export signal levels
 anywhere in their (very minimal) MIB, 
 instead asking you to use their proprietary
 software. 
   
 A few customers have requested these stats be
 exposed via SNMP, so we have now added a couple of custom
 MIBs to the software that provide information not found in
 the standard 802.11 SNMP MIBs (such as association count,
 signal level, etc). This should be available soon (For both
 LigoWave and Deliberant)
 
 If you want to win my undying affection, get a
 couple dozen vendors to 
 adopt a unified wireless MIB structure.
   
 We'd be happy to work together with other
 vendors and provide a more standardized wireless stats MIB
 as an extension to the 802.11 MIB for standards based stats
 (receive signal level, noise level, etc). 

 Best Regards,
 
 Matt Hardy
 LigoWave





 
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Re: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave

2008-10-08 Thread Eric Muehleisen
According to David Smith (list), their is no OID to support those 
features. Apparently, a future upgrade will support this. So no dice on 
the cacti templates just yet.

Once it's available I could create some templates pretty quick...I just 
need access to the device.

-Eric

Joe Miller wrote:
 Eric,

 Can you post them when you are done?


 --- On Wed, 10/8/08, Eric Muehleisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 From: Eric Muehleisen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 1:30 PM
 Put a LigoPTP on a public IP and I'll whip us some quick
 cacti templates.

 -Eric

 Matt Jenkins wrote:
 
 You current software for the LigoPTP radios uses
   
 standard SNMP OIDs for 
 
 traffic interfaces. At least it does in Cacti.

 I would really like to see Cacti templates for things
   
 like db, snr, etc.
 
 Matt Hardy wrote:
   
   
 Hi David, 
 A couple of responses :)


 
 
 I'd be happy if more vendors would
   
 standardize on SNMP, at the very
 
 least, and ideally export things like signal
   
 (and/or SNR) in a usable way.
 
 Ligowave doesn't export signal levels
   
 anywhere in their (very minimal) MIB, 
 
 instead asking you to use their proprietary
   
 software. 
 
   
   
 A few customers have requested these stats be
 
 exposed via SNMP, so we have now added a couple of custom
 MIBs to the software that provide information not found in
 the standard 802.11 SNMP MIBs (such as association count,
 signal level, etc). This should be available soon (For both
 LigoWave and Deliberant)
 
 
 
 If you want to win my undying affection, get a
   
 couple dozen vendors to 
 
 adopt a unified wireless MIB structure.
   
   
 We'd be happy to work together with other
 
 vendors and provide a more standardized wireless stats MIB
 as an extension to the 802.11 MIB for standards based stats
 (receive signal level, noise level, etc). 
 
 Best Regards,
 
 Matt Hardy
 LigoWave





 
 
 
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[WISPA] TEST

2008-10-08 Thread Jerry Richardson
New posts seem to never make it either from Gmail or our server

We are not on any of the RBLS's
 


 
 
__ 
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airCloud Communications

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 12:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave

According to David Smith (list), their is no OID to support those features. 
Apparently, a future upgrade will support this. So no dice on the cacti 
templates just yet.

Once it's available I could create some templates pretty quick...I just need 
access to the device.

-Eric

Joe Miller wrote:
 Eric,

 Can you post them when you are done?


 --- On Wed, 10/8/08, Eric Muehleisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 From: Eric Muehleisen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 1:30 PM Put a LigoPTP on a public 
 IP and I'll whip us some quick cacti templates.

 -Eric

 Matt Jenkins wrote:
 
 You current software for the LigoPTP radios uses
   
 standard SNMP OIDs for
 
 traffic interfaces. At least it does in Cacti.

 I would really like to see Cacti templates for things
   
 like db, snr, etc.
 
 Matt Hardy wrote:
   
   
 Hi David,
 A couple of responses :)


 
 
 I'd be happy if more vendors would
   
 standardize on SNMP, at the very
 
 least, and ideally export things like signal
   
 (and/or SNR) in a usable way.
 
 Ligowave doesn't export signal levels
   
 anywhere in their (very minimal) MIB,
 
 instead asking you to use their proprietary
   
 software. 
 
   
   
 A few customers have requested these stats be
 
 exposed via SNMP, so we have now added a couple of custom MIBs to the 
 software that provide information not found in the standard 802.11 
 SNMP MIBs (such as association count, signal level, etc). This should 
 be available soon (For both LigoWave and Deliberant)
 
 
 
 If you want to win my undying affection, get a
   
 couple dozen vendors to
 
 adopt a unified wireless MIB structure.
   
   
 We'd be happy to work together with other
 
 vendors and provide a more standardized wireless stats MIB as an 
 extension to the 802.11 MIB for standards based stats (receive signal 
 level, noise level, etc).
 
 Best Regards,
 
 Matt Hardy
 LigoWave





 
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2008-10-08 Thread Jerry Richardson
New posts seem to never make it either from Gmail or our server

We are not on any of the RBLS's
 


 
 
__ 
Jerry Richardson 
airCloud Communications

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 12:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave

According to David Smith (list), their is no OID to support those features. 
Apparently, a future upgrade will support this. So no dice on the cacti 
templates just yet.

Once it's available I could create some templates pretty quick...I just need 
access to the device.

-Eric

Joe Miller wrote:
 Eric,

 Can you post them when you are done?


 --- On Wed, 10/8/08, Eric Muehleisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 From: Eric Muehleisen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 1:30 PM Put a LigoPTP on a public 
 IP and I'll whip us some quick cacti templates.

 -Eric

 Matt Jenkins wrote:
 
 You current software for the LigoPTP radios uses
   
 standard SNMP OIDs for
 
 traffic interfaces. At least it does in Cacti.

 I would really like to see Cacti templates for things
   
 like db, snr, etc.
 
 Matt Hardy wrote:
   
   
 Hi David,
 A couple of responses :)


 
 
 I'd be happy if more vendors would
   
 standardize on SNMP, at the very
 
 least, and ideally export things like signal
   
 (and/or SNR) in a usable way.
 
 Ligowave doesn't export signal levels
   
 anywhere in their (very minimal) MIB,
 
 instead asking you to use their proprietary
   
 software. 
 
   
   
 A few customers have requested these stats be
 
 exposed via SNMP, so we have now added a couple of custom MIBs to the 
 software that provide information not found in the standard 802.11 
 SNMP MIBs (such as association count, signal level, etc). This should 
 be available soon (For both LigoWave and Deliberant)
 
 
 
 If you want to win my undying affection, get a
   
 couple dozen vendors to
 
 adopt a unified wireless MIB structure.
   
   
 We'd be happy to work together with other
 
 vendors and provide a more standardized wireless stats MIB as an 
 extension to the 802.11 MIB for standards based stats (receive signal 
 level, noise level, etc).
 
 Best Regards,
 
 Matt Hardy
 LigoWave





 
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Re: [WISPA] Wimax world news?

2008-10-08 Thread Jeff Ehman
WiMAX World was a bunch of mobile pipedream stuff with an emphasis on in the 
clouds technology roadmaps, haha.

What most people got out of WiNOG was the ability to speak with other operators 
ACTUALLY deploying 3.65 gear.  Can't really describe the good parts, except for 
getting Redline and Aperto's full attention for 2 days instead of being 
attacked by 300 vendors.

I think everyone in our industry is aware of the benefit of 3.65 being open 
spectrum and the ability for high quality service due to WiMAX's QoS 
capabilities.  Only time will tell with which manufacturer will win your hearts 
but the mobile stuff that WiMAX World spoke about is not it at this point.

-Jeff
General Manager
CTI
(773) 667-4585 x2509


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 5:29 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax world news?

Well, lets hear it!  I was unable to attend, even tough I really wanted!

Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Charles Wu
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 11:27 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax world news?

Nothing terribly exciting at WiMAX World

WiNOG, on the other hand...

grin

-Charles


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Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 3:43 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Wimax world news?

Any interesting news?



-Original Message-
From: Adam Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 4:33 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Radwin 2000

Hi,

Has anyone heard of or used products by Radwin (www.radwin.com)?

I understand they are releasing the Radwin 2000 series of 5.x GHz
point-to-point links in the US in November.

The price is very attractive.

My main concern is performance  reliability. We can test the
performance within a short period of time, but not the reliability
(would need to have the link up for a while to do that). We are
considering these for a critical  2 mi. link.

Thanks,
Adam




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Re: [WISPA] Wimax world news?

2008-10-08 Thread Jeff Ehman
WiNOG did have the Wu Wu special

2 Parts Technical Jargon
1 Part Credit Card Processing ON DISCOUNT

:)

Some humor for a great Wednesday afternoon

-Jeff
General Manager
CTI
(773) 667-4585 x2509


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Ehman
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 2:42 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax world news?

WiMAX World was a bunch of mobile pipedream stuff with an emphasis on in the 
clouds technology roadmaps, haha.

What most people got out of WiNOG was the ability to speak with other operators 
ACTUALLY deploying 3.65 gear.  Can't really describe the good parts, except for 
getting Redline and Aperto's full attention for 2 days instead of being 
attacked by 300 vendors.

I think everyone in our industry is aware of the benefit of 3.65 being open 
spectrum and the ability for high quality service due to WiMAX's QoS 
capabilities.  Only time will tell with which manufacturer will win your hearts 
but the mobile stuff that WiMAX World spoke about is not it at this point.

-Jeff
General Manager
CTI
(773) 667-4585 x2509


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 5:29 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax world news?

Well, lets hear it!  I was unable to attend, even tough I really wanted!

Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Charles Wu
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 11:27 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax world news?

Nothing terribly exciting at WiMAX World

WiNOG, on the other hand...

grin

-Charles


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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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16W235 83rd Street, Suite A, Burr Ridge, IL 60527 * tel: 773.667.4585
fax: 773.326.4641



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Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 3:43 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Wimax world news?

Any interesting news?



-Original Message-
From: Adam Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 4:33 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Radwin 2000

Hi,

Has anyone heard of or used products by Radwin (www.radwin.com)?

I understand they are releasing the Radwin 2000 series of 5.x GHz
point-to-point links in the US in November.

The price is very attractive.

My main concern is performance  reliability. We can test the
performance within a short period of time, but not the reliability
(would need to have the link up for a while to do that). We are
considering these for a critical  2 mi. link.

Thanks,
Adam




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Re: [WISPA] Wimax world news?

2008-10-08 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
THE STREET.COM

Baltimore's WiMax Network an Early Winner

10/08/08 - 03:43 PM EDT

Gary Krakow 
BALTIMORE -- Forget about 3G -- that's the past. 

It's now time to consider 4G wireless networks, especially the kind
announced here in on Wednesday. 

Sprint(S Quote - Cramer on S - Stock Picks) and partners Intel(INTC Quote
- Cramer on INTC - Stock Picks), Samsung, Motorola(MOT Quote - Cramer on
MOT - Stock Picks), Nokia(NOK Quote - Cramer on NOK - Stock Picks), Nokia
Siemens Networks, ZTE and ZyXEL, along with computer makers Acer, Asus,
Dell(DELL Quote - Cramer on DELL - Stock Picks), Lenovo, Panasonic,
Sony(SNE Quote - Cramer on SNE - Stock Picks) and Toshiba officially
inaugurated the world's first 4G network called Xohm (pronounced Zome). It
runs on a new technology called WiMax. 

The event was self-congratulatory, with a lot of patting each other on the
back and saying how amazing it was to get a 4G network up and running
before anyone else could. 

I'll give them that. 

But the companies also admitted that Baltimore, their first rollout city,
was not 100% complete. It's more like 75% complete -- with what were
termed bubbles where the WiMAX signal didn't perform at its best. Xohm
Chief Technical Officer Barry West said that was OK, and that they would
soon fill in all the holes. He added that Baltimore was chosen first
because its layout and the harbors provided a challenge to his engineers.
Wait until he tries New York! 

After all the ceremonial ribbon-cutting, everyone was allowed to road-test
the service -- figuratively and literally. We hopped inside a minivan to
get an idea at how well the new 4G service works. We were driven around
Baltimore's Inner Harbor while downloading files, watching videos and
surfing the Web. 

What we saw was very impressive -- we're talking downloads as fast as
5,557 kilobits per second and 1,702 kilobits kbps for uploads. It was even
faster in the simulated home-use setup we were shown. Previous rumors had
suggested there were indoor reception problems for WiMax. 



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jeff Ehman
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 2:52 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax world news?

WiNOG did have the Wu Wu special

2 Parts Technical Jargon
1 Part Credit Card Processing ON DISCOUNT

:)

Some humor for a great Wednesday afternoon

-Jeff
General Manager
CTI
(773) 667-4585 x2509


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jeff Ehman
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 2:42 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax world news?

WiMAX World was a bunch of mobile pipedream stuff with an emphasis on in
the clouds technology roadmaps, haha.

What most people got out of WiNOG was the ability to speak with other
operators ACTUALLY deploying 3.65 gear.  Can't really describe the good
parts, except for getting Redline and Aperto's full attention for 2 days
instead of being attacked by 300 vendors.

I think everyone in our industry is aware of the benefit of 3.65 being
open spectrum and the ability for high quality service due to WiMAX's QoS
capabilities.  Only time will tell with which manufacturer will win your
hearts but the mobile stuff that WiMAX World spoke about is not it at this
point.

-Jeff
General Manager
CTI
(773) 667-4585 x2509


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 5:29 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax world news?

Well, lets hear it!  I was unable to attend, even tough I really wanted!

Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
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Nothing terribly exciting at WiMAX World

WiNOG, on the other hand...

grin

-Charles


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-Original Message-
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Any interesting news?



-Original Message-
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Subject: [WISPA] Radwin 2000

Hi,

Has anyone heard of or used products by Radwin (www.radwin.com)?

I understand they are releasing the Radwin 2000 series of 5.x GHz
point-to-point links in the US in November.

The price is very attractive.

My main concern is performance  reliability. We can test the
performance within a short period of time, but not the reliability

Re: [WISPA] Wimax world news?

2008-10-08 Thread John McDowell
Jeff,
Hit me offlist. I would like to continue our talk about the CC processing.

Thanks!

John

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Jeff Ehman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 WiNOG did have the Wu Wu special

 2 Parts Technical Jargon
 1 Part Credit Card Processing ON DISCOUNT

 :)

 Some humor for a great Wednesday afternoon

 -Jeff
 General Manager
 CTI
 (773) 667-4585 x2509


 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 2:42 PM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax world news?

 WiMAX World was a bunch of mobile pipedream stuff with an emphasis on in
 the clouds technology roadmaps, haha.

 What most people got out of WiNOG was the ability to speak with other
 operators ACTUALLY deploying 3.65 gear.  Can't really describe the good
 parts, except for getting Redline and Aperto's full attention for 2 days
 instead of being attacked by 300 vendors.

 I think everyone in our industry is aware of the benefit of 3.65 being open
 spectrum and the ability for high quality service due to WiMAX's QoS
 capabilities.  Only time will tell with which manufacturer will win your
 hearts but the mobile stuff that WiMAX World spoke about is not it at this
 point.

 -Jeff
 General Manager
 CTI
 (773) 667-4585 x2509


 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 5:29 AM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax world news?

 Well, lets hear it!  I was unable to attend, even tough I really wanted!

 Gino A. Villarini
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 tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
 -Original Message-
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 Behalf Of Charles Wu
 Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 11:27 PM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax world news?

 Nothing terribly exciting at WiMAX World

 WiNOG, on the other hand...

 grin

 -Charles


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 From: Adam Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Radwin 2000

 Hi,

 Has anyone heard of or used products by Radwin (www.radwin.com)?

 I understand they are releasing the Radwin 2000 series of 5.x GHz
 point-to-point links in the US in November.

 The price is very attractive.

 My main concern is performance  reliability. We can test the
 performance within a short period of time, but not the reliability
 (would need to have the link up for a while to do that). We are
 considering these for a critical  2 mi. link.

 Thanks,
 Adam


 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Rackmount PoE

2008-10-08 Thread Rogelio
Mike Hammett wrote:
 Does anyone have any recommendations for rackmounted PoE injectors?  I was 
 looking at a Panduit PoE injecting 24 port patch panel, but I imagine that'll 
 cost an arm and a leg.  I'm not sure how many I'll need, but I'm guessing 
 around 30.

Good question.  I'm looking for something along those lines, as well.

Up to this point, I've just used loose ones that I've nailed to the 
wall.  Tacky, I know, but pretty much all I had to work with.

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Re: [WISPA] Rackmount PoE

2008-10-08 Thread Rick Harnish
Something like the picture attached?

Thanks,
Rick Harnish

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Mike Hammett wrote:
 Does anyone have any recommendations for rackmounted PoE injectors?  I was
looking at a Panduit PoE injecting 24 port patch panel, but I imagine
that'll cost an arm and a leg.  I'm not sure how many I'll need, but I'm
guessing around 30.

Good question.  I'm looking for something along those lines, as well.

Up to this point, I've just used loose ones that I've nailed to the 
wall.  Tacky, I know, but pretty much all I had to work with.

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Re: [WISPA] [Tranzeo] New Update - Tranzeo/Mtik disconnect issueOct7th, 2008

2008-10-08 Thread Scottie Arnett
Ok, checked today. I have a Nanostation on this with an uptime of a little over 
3 days with no disconnects. I have another Linksys Wet-11 I hooked to it for 
SG. It has been up over a week with no disconnects. Both are about a mile from 
the tower. Is this happening with certain wireless cards in the Mikrotik? The 
Prism card doesn't seem to have the problem with the NS2 and Linksys. I haven't 
got a Tranzeo here to test with.

Scottie

-- Original Message --
From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date:  Tue,  7 Oct 2008 23:01:35 -0500

Ryan,

Not to take anything from your tests! I have saw that clearly from all the 
other responses. Their is definitely an issue with Mikrotik and the new 
firmware that affects almost EVERYTHING! I am in a dilemma with swapping out 
900 Mhz Canopy in our town with clear LOS, with something else! I have a 
Mikrotik box with a Prism 23dB card running a 120 degree 16dB Pac Wireless 
Antenna on 3.10 Mikrotik Firmware!

I only have 2 cpq's on it at the moment. Will test and report back...but I am 
sure with the loss on cable I have I need to replace it 
and report back with something else.

-- Original Message --
From: D. Ryan Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Tue, 7 Oct 2008 17:02:34 -0700

Since Damian has made this public, I guess I can talk about this  
testing

I have been using their beta software for over 2 weeks now and I have  
uptimes that long as well.

I will not disagree with Damian regarding the mtik patch. :)

This **IS** an Mtik issue and affects more than just Tranzeo devices.

ryan


On Oct 7, 2008, at 2:30 PM, Damian Wallace wrote:



 MT has made several betas available for testing.  The results are
 promising, but we aren't running real clients on the MT.

 We also have an extremely hacky way of dealing with this issue.  We  
 have
 an alpha available for this on a Non-Supported basis.  When this  
 feature
 is turned on, you have to reboot the AP when management changes like
 channel are made.

 You can get a copy of the alpha by emailing support.  They will send  
 you
 a copy of the firmware and a warning that this breaks a lot of ways AP
 send management frames, and that we don't support it.  We think you  
 are
 better off to use the Microtik patch since it should solve the problem
 for all units, not just Tranzeos.




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[WISPA] gotta love USF!!!!

2008-10-08 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Just had a dilup customer quit.  She went to DSL.

$14.95 for internet and $14.95 for phone line.  $29.90 for both!  This was 
NOT an introductory rate.  Good for life.  She called to double check that 
after we warned her.

Depending on who you listen to Century Tel gets $60 to $109 per month in 
subsidies out here.  Per phone line.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't USF supposed to be a cost recovery 
mechanism?  If the telco can drop their drawers that far down it seems 
to me that USF has been kicking in a bit too much of late.

The older I get the more I hate my government and what it's doing to us!
marlon




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Re: [WISPA] Rackmount PoE

2008-10-08 Thread John Thomas
These are $399 for a 24 port POE switch

http://www.netgear.com/Products/Switches/AdvancedSmartSwitches/FS728TP.aspx


John


Mike Hammett wrote:
 Does anyone have any recommendations for rackmounted PoE injectors?  I was 
 looking at a Panduit PoE injecting 24 port patch panel, but I imagine that'll 
 cost an arm and a leg.  I'm not sure how many I'll need, but I'm guessing 
 around 30.


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Re: [WISPA] Rackmount PoE

2008-10-08 Thread Mac Dearman
Harnish,


   You are a good guy, smart and all, but you have some really great help!!
:-)

Send us a recipe for that POE set up - - please?? ;-)


BTW - that looks like a class act POE setup.

Thanks,
Mac





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 Something like the picture attached?
 
 Thanks,
 Rick Harnish
 
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 Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 7:05 PM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rackmount PoE
 
 Mike Hammett wrote:
  Does anyone have any recommendations for rackmounted PoE injectors?
 I
  was
 looking at a Panduit PoE injecting 24 port patch panel, but I imagine
 that'll cost an arm and a leg.  I'm not sure how many I'll need, but
 I'm guessing around 30.
 
 Good question.  I'm looking for something along those lines, as well.
 
 Up to this point, I've just used loose ones that I've nailed to the
 wall.  Tacky, I know, but pretty much all I had to work with.
 
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Re: [WISPA] [Tranzeo] New Update - Tranzeo/Mtik disconnectissueOct7th, 2008

2008-10-08 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
On mine it's the Atheros chip.  xr2 is what I think I'm running.
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Tranzeo] New Update - Tranzeo/Mtik 
disconnectissueOct7th, 2008


 Ok, checked today. I have a Nanostation on this with an uptime of a little 
 over 3 days with no disconnects. I have another Linksys Wet-11 I hooked to 
 it for SG. It has been up over a week with no disconnects. Both are about 
 a mile from the tower. Is this happening with certain wireless cards in 
 the Mikrotik? The Prism card doesn't seem to have the problem with the NS2 
 and Linksys. I haven't got a Tranzeo here to test with.

 Scottie

 -- Original Message --
 From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date:  Tue,  7 Oct 2008 23:01:35 -0500

Ryan,

Not to take anything from your tests! I have saw that clearly from all the 
other responses. Their is definitely an issue with Mikrotik and the new 
firmware that affects almost EVERYTHING! I am in a dilemma with swapping 
out 900 Mhz Canopy in our town with clear LOS, with something else! I have 
a Mikrotik box with a Prism 23dB card running a 120 degree 16dB Pac 
Wireless Antenna on 3.10 Mikrotik Firmware!

I only have 2 cpq's on it at the moment. Will test and report back...but I 
am sure with the loss on cable I have I need to replace it
and report back with something else.

-- Original Message --
From: D. Ryan Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Tue, 7 Oct 2008 17:02:34 -0700

Since Damian has made this public, I guess I can talk about this
testing

I have been using their beta software for over 2 weeks now and I have
uptimes that long as well.

I will not disagree with Damian regarding the mtik patch. :)

This **IS** an Mtik issue and affects more than just Tranzeo devices.

ryan


On Oct 7, 2008, at 2:30 PM, Damian Wallace wrote:



 MT has made several betas available for testing.  The results are
 promising, but we aren't running real clients on the MT.

 We also have an extremely hacky way of dealing with this issue.  We
 have
 an alpha available for this on a Non-Supported basis.  When this
 feature
 is turned on, you have to reboot the AP when management changes like
 channel are made.

 You can get a copy of the alpha by emailing support.  They will send
 you
 a copy of the firmware and a warning that this breaks a lot of ways AP
 send management frames, and that we don't support it.  We think you
 are
 better off to use the Microtik patch since it should solve the problem
 for all units, not just Tranzeos.




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Re: [WISPA] gotta love USF!!!!

2008-10-08 Thread Tom DeReggi
The problem is... We dont get a piece of the action.

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From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 9:29 PM
Subject: [WISPA] gotta love USF


 Just had a dilup customer quit.  She went to DSL.

 $14.95 for internet and $14.95 for phone line.  $29.90 for both!  This was
 NOT an introductory rate.  Good for life.  She called to double check that
 after we warned her.

 Depending on who you listen to Century Tel gets $60 to $109 per month in
 subsidies out here.  Per phone line.

 Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't USF supposed to be a cost recovery
 mechanism?  If the telco can drop their drawers that far down it seems
 to me that USF has been kicking in a bit too much of late.

 The older I get the more I hate my government and what it's doing to us!
 marlon



 
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Re: [WISPA] gotta love USF!!!!

2008-10-08 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
It is a cost recovery mechanism.  I got audited by USAC this year to prove 
that the USF we receive is to cover the costs of providing the service.  But 
think how expensive it is to run a hundred miles of fiber and put in a class 
5 switch to serve 30 or 50 customers.

You are right, I do love USF!!!

- Original Message - 
From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 8:29 PM
Subject: [WISPA] gotta love USF


 Just had a dilup customer quit.  She went to DSL.

 $14.95 for internet and $14.95 for phone line.  $29.90 for both!  This was
 NOT an introductory rate.  Good for life.  She called to double check that
 after we warned her.

 Depending on who you listen to Century Tel gets $60 to $109 per month in
 subsidies out here.  Per phone line.

 Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't USF supposed to be a cost recovery
 mechanism?  If the telco can drop their drawers that far down it seems
 to me that USF has been kicking in a bit too much of late.

 The older I get the more I hate my government and what it's doing to us!
 marlon



 
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