Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
The last harness we bought had a bar across the seat. My guys like that better because it lets them rest more on their butts than their legs while working on the side of the tower. I think it's Elk River Eagle Tower LX Harness. Not sure exactly though, it's listed at 227.95 and I thought we paid more for ours. Steve Barnes wrote: That's what I like about this list, most every shoots straight to the point. Safety over the check book. So with that said what are some good sources, (Websites) for climbing gear. I know Tessco, trying to find some competing prices. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident Our guys like Exofit the best so that's what we buy. Don't go cheap on safety gear, you can't afford it. Jim Blair Davis wrote: I use mine 3-4 times a month. Spent $500 lanyards and harness. A good set will last many years, be comfortable and safe. Spend the money, you won't regret it. Steve Barnes wrote: New Question on this thread. I need a inexpensive harness. I never climb more than 30 feet on well secured TV towers but Would like to let go at the top and getting tired of my fall out of tree while hunting harness. I use it less than 3 times a month so I hate to spend $400 for a rig. Any suggestions. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
That is the one I have. It's really nice. George Rogato wrote: The last harness we bought had a bar across the seat. My guys like that better because it lets them rest more on their butts than their legs while working on the side of the tower. I think it's Elk River Eagle Tower LX Harness. Not sure exactly though, it's listed at 227.95 and I thought we paid more for ours. Steve Barnes wrote: That's what I like about this list, most every shoots straight to the point. Safety over the check book. So with that said what are some good sources, (Websites) for climbing gear. I know Tessco, trying to find some competing prices. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident Our guys like Exofit the best so that's what we buy. Don't go cheap on safety gear, you can't afford it. Jim Blair Davis wrote: I use mine 3-4 times a month. Spent $500 lanyards and harness. A good set will last many years, be comfortable and safe. Spend the money, you won't regret it. Steve Barnes wrote: New Question on this thread. I need a inexpensive harness. I never climb more than 30 feet on well secured TV towers but Would like to let go at the top and getting tired of my "fall out of tree while hunting harness". I use it less than 3 times a month so I hate to spend $400 for a rig. Any suggestions. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?
To resolve this issue, most webmails have the ability to limit how many emails are sent within a certain period of time or use captcha to make it a PITA to send out mass spams. -Eric - Original Message - From: David E. Smith d...@mvn.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: 2009-01-08 16:31 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good? os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: It sounds like what you really have to do is tighten up your webmail. It's better to fix that than to put a band-aid on it. Though a good smtp spam filter is never a bad idea. The problem is that the Web mail isn't broken, as such. The attackers are using legitimate credentials to log in and send mail. Unfortunately, the mail software in question doesn't have rate-limits on a per-sender basis. I know, I should join the rest of you in the early 21st century. Anyone know of a reliable IIS geolocation filter? That'd solve the problem in an even more crazy roundabout way. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations
Have had good results with radwin ... - Original Message - From: John McDowell j...@boonlink.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 12:50 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations We're pretty exclusive to the AN80 on backhauls...just deployed a new one this week. And yes, Redline support is awesome On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:25 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: I love the an50s. Redline support is unbelieveable. The 80s have more capability and are half the price, though I haven't gotten my hands on them. On 1/8/09, John McDowell j...@boonlink.com wrote: Redline AN80i On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Pat O'Connor p...@inlandnet.com wrote: Andrews Antenna P3F-52-NXA 5.8GHz backhaul radio died today because of a power surge. Old Proxim gear, 2 x T1. I wanted some feedback from vendors/users of what they are using. I need to keep it under $5K if possible. Link distance: 8.3 miles Antennas: Andrews P3F-52-NXA WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 j...@boonlink.com www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail j...@boonlink.com, and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 j...@boonlink.com www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail j...@boonlink.com, and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
The last harness we bought had a bar across the seat. My guys like that better because it lets them rest more on their butts than their legs while working on the side of the tower. I think it's Elk River Eagle Tower LX Harness. Not sure exactly though, it's listed at 227.95 and I thought we paid more for ours. Steve Barnes wrote: What is everyone using for hardhats? That dont fall off? Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 1and1.com
Strike one against outsourcing email, etc. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Dennis Burgess - Linktechs.net dmburg...@linktechs.net Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 9:29 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 1and1.com I have a number of customers that switched from them because of this reason. Just no one there. -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Anyone have a good contact at 1and1.com of someone who can actually help me. I moved 125 very important messages in my imap account from one folder to another and their mail server ate them. They tell me they can't help because I use thunderbird.there has to be a backup to that imap account somewhere. I just need to get a hold of someone who will help me. Thanks, Brian WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 1and1.com
Just tried and all it did was yank all the inbox messages. Now I am sending those back to the imap account. It's didn't even try to get the folders. Brian Jay Clark wrote: Is it possible to log into the same account using POP settings and retrieve the mail that way? Jay On Jan 9, 2009, at 9:29 AM, Dennis Burgess - Linktechs.net wrote: I have a number of customers that switched from them because of this reason. Just no one there. -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Anyone have a good contact at 1and1.com of someone who can actually help me. I moved 125 very important messages in my imap account from one folder to another and their mail server ate them. They tell me they can't help because I use thunderbird.there has to be a backup to that imap account somewhere. I just need to get a hold of someone who will help me. Thanks, Brian WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [isp-wireless] FM radio station site strangeness
Thanks Mike, The change to 10 meg half doesn't help. In fact, most devices won't connect at all then. The worst part is that the most expensive gear is most effected by this! ug I have installed ferrite beads that do indeed help. Apryl can get you the contact info and part number. 509.982.2181 The shielded cable from Shierene just came in. And I have permission to move to the other side of the building. When the snow melts and the ground firms up I'll rebuild the entire site. The radio station has a new transmitter since I first went into the site and another tenant recently left. I have more location options now than I did before. Yesterday I did some testing with a Fluke DTX. It's a crazy meter. Checks just about everything. As it well should for $7000. Know what it doesn't check very well though? Inductive RF. gr There is one test that showed some problems though. It's called an inductive pulse. Readings at another tower I have (and the tech support guy at Fluke) were 0. This tower had a reading of nearly 3000! Fluke is supposed to find out what an acceptable level would be and send that info to me. I've not heard from them yet though. The tech's guess was around 30mV. I did think it strange that when I tested my cable with a volt meter (one end to ground, the other to the connectors on the cat5) I was picking up 2 to 3 volts on each pin. That pretty well seems to line up with the 3000mV reading from the fluke! This site has always been a source of grief for me. Must less reliable than nearly any other I have, no matter what equipment is used. I always thought it was due to all of the other operators in the area (one's been fined by the FCC for using illegal amps etc.) doing silly things. Though nothing THAT bad has ever showed up on my analyzer. I always thought it was something that only the customer end could see (couldn't find that on the analyzer either though). Maybe my problem has always been the radio station stuff. Wouldn't that be great? FINALLY, a network reliable enough to allow me to take a vacation. grin laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Cowan ispwireless-li...@wirelessconnections.net To: isp-wirel...@isp-wireless.com Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 1:40 AM Subject: RE: [isp-wireless] FM radio station site strangeness Hi Marlon, It looks like you are on your way to solving this. To get by until then you might want to try locking the Ethernet side to 10MB 1/2 duplex. FM radio runs around 100mhz at high power levels, well so does a 100MB Ethernet connection, it communicates at 10mhz. 10MB 1/2 runs at 66mhz I believe. Fixing it is really black magic however. Sometimes grounding helps, sometimes it is better without. Many have placed the cable in conduit, with mixed success. I would be very interested if the ferits help, we have tried a few with inconclusive results, but have not found a quality unit to test with either. Mike Mike Cowan Wireless Connections A Division of ACC 166 Milan Ave Norwalk, OH 44857 419-660-6100 419-706-7348 Cell 419-668-4077 Fax mi...@wirelessconnections.net www.wirelessconnections.net -Original Message- From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:o...@odessaoffice.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 10:47 AM To: isp-wirel...@isp-wireless.com Cc: isp-wirel...@isp-wireless.com Subject: [isp-wireless] FM radio station site strangeness Hi All, I think we finally have this all figured out. Now I just have to figure out how to fix it. ___ The ISP-WIRELESS Discussion List ___ To Join: mailto:join-isp-wirel...@isp-wireless.com To Remove: mailto:remove-isp-wirel...@isp-wireless.com Archives: http://isp-lists.isp-planet.com/isp-wireless/archives/ To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. Copyright 2007 Jupitermedia Corporation All Rights Reserved. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 1and1.com
I will switch as soon as I wait 5 days to see if they have a backup. Brian Dennis Burgess - Linktechs.net wrote: I have a number of customers that switched from them because of this reason. Just no one there. -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Anyone have a good contact at 1and1.com of someone who can actually help me. I moved 125 very important messages in my imap account from one folder to another and their mail server ate them. They tell me they can't help because I use thunderbird.there has to be a backup to that imap account somewhere. I just need to get a hold of someone who will help me. Thanks, Brian WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 1and1.com
I don't outsource this, but I do host it on the Virtual servers we sell. The key is we can log into the server and do whatever, including getting messages like this etc. e-mail is cheap, its simple to support and just runs for the most part. Its that stupid hardware problem that kills ya! -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* Mike Hammett wrote: That would most likely only retrieve items in the Inbox. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Jay Clark li...@s135365950.onlinehome.us Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 9:38 AM To: dmburg...@linktechs.net; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 1and1.com Is it possible to log into the same account using POP settings and retrieve the mail that way? Jay On Jan 9, 2009, at 9:29 AM, Dennis Burgess - Linktechs.net wrote: I have a number of customers that switched from them because of this reason. Just no one there. -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Anyone have a good contact at 1and1.com of someone who can actually help me. I moved 125 very important messages in my imap account from one folder to another and their mail server ate them. They tell me they can't help because I use thunderbird.there has to be a backup to that imap account somewhere. I just need to get a hold of someone who will help me. Thanks, Brian WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations
second this!! :) So far seeing good results as well with the new R5Hs and N-Stream too ;) -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* Blair Davis wrote: A pair of Mikrotiks, radio cards and all, under $1K and you should be able to do 20Mbit. Pat O'Connor wrote: Andrews Antenna P3F-52-NXA 5.8GHz backhaul radio died today because of a power surge. Old Proxim gear, 2 x T1. I wanted some feedback from vendors/users of what they are using. I need to keep it under $5K if possible. Link distance: 8.3 miles Antennas: Andrews P3F-52-NXA WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations
Well I have always been really happy with the Motorola PtP series radios (maybe a PtP 300 for this link). It all depends on what you need... T-1 transport, how much data throughput, channel size, latency, noise immunity, warranties, fcc compliance, etc. That part number is for a single pol dish though... so to use a PtP 300 you would want to swap out the feedhorn for the dual pol feedhorn... Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Pat O'Connor Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 6:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations Andrews Antenna P3F-52-NXA 5.8GHz backhaul radio died today because of a power surge. Old Proxim gear, 2 x T1. I wanted some feedback from vendors/users of what they are using. I need to keep it under $5K if possible. Link distance: 8.3 miles Antennas: Andrews P3F-52-NXA WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 1and1.com
What do you run on your local machine? Unix or Windows? Does 1and1 require SSL for IMAP? Let me know, I might have a tool for you. ryan Brian Rohrbacher wrote: I will switch as soon as I wait 5 days to see if they have a backup. Brian Dennis Burgess - Linktechs.net wrote: I have a number of customers that switched from them because of this reason. Just no one there. -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Anyone have a good contact at 1and1.com of someone who can actually help me. I moved 125 very important messages in my imap account from one folder to another and their mail server ate them. They tell me they can't help because I use thunderbird.there has to be a backup to that imap account somewhere. I just need to get a hold of someone who will help me. Thanks, Brian WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations
Can you share a brief explanation of what all Mikrotik N-Stream does? I know you can set up two radios (one up and one down) but I do not know what else it can do. We have some Mikrotik in the air now and would like to start taking advantage of this if it has real advantages. Thank you, Scriv On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Dennis Burgess - Linktechs.net dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote: second this!! :) So far seeing good results as well with the new R5Hs and N-Stream too ;) -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* Blair Davis wrote: A pair of Mikrotiks, radio cards and all, under $1K and you should be able to do 20Mbit. Pat O'Connor wrote: Andrews Antenna P3F-52-NXA 5.8GHz backhaul radio died today because of a power surge. Old Proxim gear, 2 x T1. I wanted some feedback from vendors/users of what they are using. I need to keep it under $5K if possible. Link distance: 8.3 miles Antennas: Andrews P3F-52-NXA WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations
Like I said, if you just need data, then MT can't be beat on this. lets see, 30-40 meg throughput in most cases, if he gets good signals, super low latency, usually 1-2ms if that, warrantied product, and FCC certification ;) Heck, just the boxes with POEs, ethernet surge and new 6gig Coax Arresters would be under $650 including both sides! -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* 3-dB Networks wrote: Well I have always been really happy with the Motorola PtP series radios (maybe a PtP 300 for this link). It all depends on what you need... T-1 transport, how much data throughput, channel size, latency, noise immunity, warranties, fcc compliance, etc. That part number is for a single pol dish though... so to use a PtP 300 you would want to swap out the feedhorn for the dual pol feedhorn... Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Pat O'Connor Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 6:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations Andrews Antenna P3F-52-NXA 5.8GHz backhaul radio died today because of a power surge. Old Proxim gear, 2 x T1. I wanted some feedback from vendors/users of what they are using. I need to keep it under $5K if possible. Link distance: 8.3 miles Antennas: Andrews P3F-52-NXA WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations
Is the better nstreme available in the full release or is it still a test package? On 1/9/09, Dennis Burgess - Linktechs.net dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote: Like I said, if you just need data, then MT can't be beat on this. lets see, 30-40 meg throughput in most cases, if he gets good signals, super low latency, usually 1-2ms if that, warrantied product, and FCC certification ;) Heck, just the boxes with POEs, ethernet surge and new 6gig Coax Arresters would be under $650 including both sides! -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* 3-dB Networks wrote: Well I have always been really happy with the Motorola PtP series radios (maybe a PtP 300 for this link). It all depends on what you need... T-1 transport, how much data throughput, channel size, latency, noise immunity, warranties, fcc compliance, etc. That part number is for a single pol dish though... so to use a PtP 300 you would want to swap out the feedhorn for the dual pol feedhorn... Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Pat O'Connor Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 6:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations Andrews Antenna P3F-52-NXA 5.8GHz backhaul radio died today because of a power surge. Old Proxim gear, 2 x T1. I wanted some feedback from vendors/users of what they are using. I need to keep it under $5K if possible. Link distance: 8.3 miles Antennas: Andrews P3F-52-NXA WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [isp-wireless] FM radio station site strangeness
Is using fiber-optic cable out of the question? Greg On Jan 9, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Thanks Mike, The change to 10 meg half doesn't help. In fact, most devices won't connect at all then. The worst part is that the most expensive gear is most effected by this! ug I have installed ferrite beads that do indeed help. Apryl can get you the contact info and part number. 509.982.2181 The shielded cable from Shierene just came in. And I have permission to move to the other side of the building. When the snow melts and the ground firms up I'll rebuild the entire site. The radio station has a new transmitter since I first went into the site and another tenant recently left. I have more location options now than I did before. Yesterday I did some testing with a Fluke DTX. It's a crazy meter. Checks just about everything. As it well should for $7000. Know what it doesn't check very well though? Inductive RF. gr There is one test that showed some problems though. It's called an inductive pulse. Readings at another tower I have (and the tech support guy at Fluke) were 0. This tower had a reading of nearly 3000! Fluke is supposed to find out what an acceptable level would be and send that info to me. I've not heard from them yet though. The tech's guess was around 30mV. I did think it strange that when I tested my cable with a volt meter (one end to ground, the other to the connectors on the cat5) I was picking up 2 to 3 volts on each pin. That pretty well seems to line up with the 3000mV reading from the fluke! This site has always been a source of grief for me. Must less reliable than nearly any other I have, no matter what equipment is used. I always thought it was due to all of the other operators in the area (one's been fined by the FCC for using illegal amps etc.) doing silly things. Though nothing THAT bad has ever showed up on my analyzer. I always thought it was something that only the customer end could see (couldn't find that on the analyzer either though). Maybe my problem has always been the radio station stuff. Wouldn't that be great? FINALLY, a network reliable enough to allow me to take a vacation. grin laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Cowan ispwireless-li...@wirelessconnections.net To: isp-wirel...@isp-wireless.com Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 1:40 AM Subject: RE: [isp-wireless] FM radio station site strangeness Hi Marlon, It looks like you are on your way to solving this. To get by until then you might want to try locking the Ethernet side to 10MB 1/2 duplex. FM radio runs around 100mhz at high power levels, well so does a 100MB Ethernet connection, it communicates at 10mhz. 10MB 1/2 runs at 66mhz I believe. Fixing it is really black magic however. Sometimes grounding helps, sometimes it is better without. Many have placed the cable in conduit, with mixed success. I would be very interested if the ferits help, we have tried a few with inconclusive results, but have not found a quality unit to test with either. Mike Mike Cowan Wireless Connections A Division of ACC 166 Milan Ave Norwalk, OH 44857 419-660-6100 419-706-7348 Cell 419-668-4077 Fax mi...@wirelessconnections.net www.wirelessconnections.net -Original Message- From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:o...@odessaoffice.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 10:47 AM To: isp-wirel...@isp-wireless.com Cc: isp-wirel...@isp-wireless.com Subject: [isp-wireless] FM radio station site strangeness Hi All, I think we finally have this all figured out. Now I just have to figure out how to fix it. ___ The ISP-WIRELESS Discussion List ___ To Join: mailto:join-isp-wirel...@isp-wireless.com To Remove: mailto:remove-isp-wirel...@isp-wireless.com Archives: http://isp-lists.isp-planet.com/isp-wireless/archives/ To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. Copyright 2007 Jupitermedia Corporation All Rights Reserved. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
[WISPA] FOR SALE: Spectrum Analyzer + Trango Stuff
Nice Bumblebee SA + Trango Stuff http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZscottvd Thanks, `S WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?
Kurt Fankhauser wrote: According to the website one box is capable of running as either/or. (I thought) But not both at the same time :( David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?
Mike Hammett wrote: What about forcing those accounts to change paswords? I've been doing that - again, I'm trying to be proactive rather than reactive. If I told my boss yeah, we need to change everyone's password he'd laugh at me. And not in a funny-ha-ha way. The computer belonging to the most recent compromised account is on our workbench right now. My PC-cleanup-guy says he thinks it may have set a new record for number of viruses and spyware on one machine; we're not even sure we can clean it up. We may have to give it back and tell them it needs a full reformat. Given that lots of customers have computers that are screwed-up in that same way, even changing everyone's passwords is of questionable value - they'll still have the same keyloggers on their computers, sending these passwords off to Nigeria or wherever. This isn't a college campus; I can't force my users to have current AV software, or else deny them access. Sometimes I wish I could, but... There will be compromises. I accept this as fact. It's effectively impossible to keep thousands of end-user PCs perfectly clean, especially given our largely-residential, largely-rural, largely-non-techie customer base. I'm just trying to minimize the damage in a proactive way. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations
Yes, Nstreme can add significant speed, depending on the situation, It should be noted that... 1. Nstreme performs slower if the Radios do not have fast enough processors. For example, we found the old RB532s 233Mhz, NOT fast enough proc. 2. Nstreme works great (fast) on the newer faster boards, such as 433AH and 600Series. 3. Nstreme is not compatible to be used for all configurations. I forget the exact details, but when we were trying to use WDS and VLANs, to immulate a transparent bridge (VLAN switch) in a PTMP design (to connect a group of 4 tenant buildings, 1 acting as AP, and 3 acting as Stations), Nstreme had to be disabled, for it to work. That was pre-2.29 version. I do not know, how it is now with v3.x 4. Nstreme2 is its way to use two channels togeather. Which works optimal provided have adequate channel seperation ( 80mhz). Its good alternative to do it in multi-band, when a single 40mhz wide channel is not available. 5. It requires access to both sides of the link to configure for NStreme. But I bet Dennis, would have all the answers of how to optimize usage of Nstreme. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Dennis Burgess - Linktechs.net dmburg...@linktechs.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations Like I said, if you just need data, then MT can't be beat on this. lets see, 30-40 meg throughput in most cases, if he gets good signals, super low latency, usually 1-2ms if that, warrantied product, and FCC certification ;) Heck, just the boxes with POEs, ethernet surge and new 6gig Coax Arresters would be under $650 including both sides! -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* 3-dB Networks wrote: Well I have always been really happy with the Motorola PtP series radios (maybe a PtP 300 for this link). It all depends on what you need... T-1 transport, how much data throughput, channel size, latency, noise immunity, warranties, fcc compliance, etc. That part number is for a single pol dish though... so to use a PtP 300 you would want to swap out the feedhorn for the dual pol feedhorn... Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Pat O'Connor Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 6:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations Andrews Antenna P3F-52-NXA 5.8GHz backhaul radio died today because of a power surge. Old Proxim gear, 2 x T1. I wanted some feedback from vendors/users of what they are using. I need to keep it under $5K if possible. Link distance: 8.3 miles Antennas: Andrews P3F-52-NXA WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.5/1884 - Release Date: 1/9/2009 8:38 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations
Yes you have to have a good processor, it does compression. I also believe it does MPPP as well, and larger frame sizes as well to get higher speeds. Hence, processor usage is key. MT is a router, why bridge! :) never really needed to do WDS with N-stream etc. Its also a polling system and you can disable CSMA as well. -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* Tom DeReggi wrote: Yes, Nstreme can add significant speed, depending on the situation, It should be noted that... 1. Nstreme performs slower if the Radios do not have fast enough processors. For example, we found the old RB532s 233Mhz, NOT fast enough proc. 2. Nstreme works great (fast) on the newer faster boards, such as 433AH and 600Series. 3. Nstreme is not compatible to be used for all configurations. I forget the exact details, but when we were trying to use WDS and VLANs, to immulate a transparent bridge (VLAN switch) in a PTMP design (to connect a group of 4 tenant buildings, 1 acting as AP, and 3 acting as Stations), Nstreme had to be disabled, for it to work. That was pre-2.29 version. I do not know, how it is now with v3.x 4. Nstreme2 is its way to use two channels togeather. Which works optimal provided have adequate channel seperation ( 80mhz). Its good alternative to do it in multi-band, when a single 40mhz wide channel is not available. 5. It requires access to both sides of the link to configure for NStreme. But I bet Dennis, would have all the answers of how to optimize usage of Nstreme. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Dennis Burgess - Linktechs.net dmburg...@linktechs.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations Like I said, if you just need data, then MT can't be beat on this. lets see, 30-40 meg throughput in most cases, if he gets good signals, super low latency, usually 1-2ms if that, warrantied product, and FCC certification ;) Heck, just the boxes with POEs, ethernet surge and new 6gig Coax Arresters would be under $650 including both sides! -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* 3-dB Networks wrote: Well I have always been really happy with the Motorola PtP series radios (maybe a PtP 300 for this link). It all depends on what you need... T-1 transport, how much data throughput, channel size, latency, noise immunity, warranties, fcc compliance, etc. That part number is for a single pol dish though... so to use a PtP 300 you would want to swap out the feedhorn for the dual pol feedhorn... Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Pat O'Connor Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 6:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations Andrews Antenna P3F-52-NXA 5.8GHz backhaul radio died today because of a power surge. Old Proxim gear, 2 x T1. I wanted some feedback from vendors/users of what they are using. I need to keep it under $5K if possible. Link distance: 8.3 miles Antennas: Andrews P3F-52-NXA WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations
Dennis Burgess - Linktechs.net wrote: Yes you have to have a good processor, it does compression. I also believe it does MPPP as well, and larger frame sizes as well to get higher speeds. Hence, processor usage is key. When I was testing this - pretty informally, two radios set on the floor of the office about a hundred feet apart - the speeds weren't that much higher, and the latency was all weird. The RF link was pretty good (I think there was 40-some-odd points of SNR), and when I used them in regular AP/bridge mode, or basic WDS, I actually got better performance than when I enabled polling and Nstreme and all the other Mikrotik proprietary magic checkboxes. The throughput was pretty comparable, but when the link was even lightly loaded, pings went bananas. Instead of being consistent, some would be 3ms, some would be 100ms. I figured that was because my little ping packets were being bundled up with other packets, then transmitted when it was most efficient for the radio, as opposed to being sent on-demand. First, is that pretty close to accurate? Second, in the real world, when you're trying to do something like VOIP or gaming that's sensitive to latency, how noticeable is it? David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations
David, Just for info here but it's possible that your signals were so loud that the receivers were being overloaded. That drives them bananas... jack David E. Smith wrote: Dennis Burgess - Linktechs.net wrote: Yes you have to have a good processor, it does compression. I also believe it does MPPP as well, and larger frame sizes as well to get higher speeds. Hence, processor usage is key. When I was testing this - pretty informally, two radios set on the floor of the office about a hundred feet apart - the speeds weren't that much higher, and the latency was all weird. The RF link was pretty good (I think there was 40-some-odd points of SNR), and when I used them in regular AP/bridge mode, or basic WDS, I actually got better performance than when I enabled polling and Nstreme and all the other Mikrotik proprietary magic checkboxes. The throughput was pretty comparable, but when the link was even lightly loaded, pings went bananas. Instead of being consistent, some would be 3ms, some would be 100ms. I figured that was because my little ping packets were being bundled up with other packets, then transmitted when it was most efficient for the radio, as opposed to being sent on-demand. First, is that pretty close to accurate? Second, in the real world, when you're trying to do something like VOIP or gaming that's sensitive to latency, how noticeable is it? David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 Cisco Press Author - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs" WISPs - Do you know where your customers are? For wireless coverage mapping see http://www.ask-wi.com/mapping FCC Lic. #PG-12-25133 LinkedIn Profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/jackunger Phone 818-227-4220 Email jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations
With that inside like that, you can get reflections etc. It does the compression and M3P I'm sure as well. It should not incraase the latency that much and should not fluctuate like that normally. -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* David E. Smith wrote: Dennis Burgess - Linktechs.net wrote: Yes you have to have a good processor, it does compression. I also believe it does MPPP as well, and larger frame sizes as well to get higher speeds. Hence, processor usage is key. When I was testing this - pretty informally, two radios set on the floor of the office about a hundred feet apart - the speeds weren't that much higher, and the latency was all weird. The RF link was pretty good (I think there was 40-some-odd points of SNR), and when I used them in regular AP/bridge mode, or basic WDS, I actually got better performance than when I enabled polling and Nstreme and all the other Mikrotik proprietary magic checkboxes. The throughput was pretty comparable, but when the link was even lightly loaded, pings went bananas. Instead of being consistent, some would be 3ms, some would be 100ms. I figured that was because my little ping packets were being bundled up with other packets, then transmitted when it was most efficient for the radio, as opposed to being sent on-demand. First, is that pretty close to accurate? Second, in the real world, when you're trying to do something like VOIP or gaming that's sensitive to latency, how noticeable is it? David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations
yep, anything more than -40 is BAD. better tests are around -55 or so.. -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* Jack Unger wrote: David, Just for info here but it's possible that your signals were so loud that the receivers were being overloaded. That drives them bananas... jack David E. Smith wrote: Dennis Burgess - Linktechs.net wrote: Yes you have to have a good processor, it does compression. I also believe it does MPPP as well, and larger frame sizes as well to get higher speeds. Hence, processor usage is key. When I was testing this - pretty informally, two radios set on the floor of the office about a hundred feet apart - the speeds weren't that much higher, and the latency was all weird. The RF link was pretty good (I think there was 40-some-odd points of SNR), and when I used them in regular AP/bridge mode, or basic WDS, I actually got better performance than when I enabled polling and Nstreme and all the other Mikrotik proprietary magic checkboxes. The throughput was pretty comparable, but when the link was even lightly loaded, pings went bananas. Instead of being consistent, some would be 3ms, some would be 100ms. I figured that was because my little ping packets were being bundled up with other packets, then transmitted when it was most efficient for the radio, as opposed to being sent on-demand. First, is that pretty close to accurate? Second, in the real world, when you're trying to do something like VOIP or gaming that's sensitive to latency, how noticeable is it? David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 Cisco Press Author - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs WISPs - Do you know where your customers are? For wireless coverage mapping see http://www.ask-wi.com/mapping FCC Lic. #PG-12-25133 LinkedIn Profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/jackunger Phone 818-227-4220 Email jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations
MT is a router, why bridge! :) Ease of central management. We don't have a good way to track all the IPs and confgiurations that get assigned to the MT. Most of our MT CPEs terminate in Tenant buildings with Multiple subs. Traffic is easy to seperate, when VLANs can get past through end to end. In our central cell site management system, we built a system to record, test, provision, and de-provision IP configurations. To do it with MT routing on the middle devices, it means writing/finding text docs archived somewhere, that documented the more complex less consistent configurations. These are reasons that I prefer simple bridge backhaul radios, for my network. I don't want them to be overly intelligent. From a technical perspective, yeah, it would be better to route. But I don't care about the technical details as that is not tied directly to profitabilty, but my time saving to manage it definately translates to my profitabilty. However, there are many places that a NStreme MT w/ routing can be inserted into a network, where it does NOT create additional management headaches. Sometimes, even easier to manage. And many WISPs dont own a central management router system at their cell sites. The MT itself becomes their way to manage their configurations. Those are all great places to use MT w/ routing. I will also be the first to admit that WDS is a dog, performance wise. But MT solved that, by making faster processor boards, and inexpensive. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Dennis Burgess - Linktechs.net dmburg...@linktechs.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations Yes you have to have a good processor, it does compression. I also believe it does MPPP as well, and larger frame sizes as well to get higher speeds. Hence, processor usage is key. MT is a router, why bridge! :) never really needed to do WDS with N-stream etc. Its also a polling system and you can disable CSMA as well. -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* Tom DeReggi wrote: Yes, Nstreme can add significant speed, depending on the situation, It should be noted that... 1. Nstreme performs slower if the Radios do not have fast enough processors. For example, we found the old RB532s 233Mhz, NOT fast enough proc. 2. Nstreme works great (fast) on the newer faster boards, such as 433AH and 600Series. 3. Nstreme is not compatible to be used for all configurations. I forget the exact details, but when we were trying to use WDS and VLANs, to immulate a transparent bridge (VLAN switch) in a PTMP design (to connect a group of 4 tenant buildings, 1 acting as AP, and 3 acting as Stations), Nstreme had to be disabled, for it to work. That was pre-2.29 version. I do not know, how it is now with v3.x 4. Nstreme2 is its way to use two channels togeather. Which works optimal provided have adequate channel seperation ( 80mhz). Its good alternative to do it in multi-band, when a single 40mhz wide channel is not available. 5. It requires access to both sides of the link to configure for NStreme. But I bet Dennis, would have all the answers of how to optimize usage of Nstreme. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Dennis Burgess - Linktechs.net dmburg...@linktechs.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations Like I said, if you just need data, then MT can't be beat on this. lets see, 30-40 meg throughput in most cases, if he gets good signals, super low latency, usually 1-2ms if that, warrantied product, and FCC certification ;) Heck, just the boxes with POEs, ethernet surge and new 6gig Coax Arresters would be under $650 including both sides! -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* 3-dB Networks wrote: Well I have always been really happy with the Motorola PtP series radios (maybe a PtP 300 for this link). It all depends on what you need... T-1 transport, how much data throughput,
Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations
He didn't say he was at -40 rssi. He said he had 40db of SNR. But regardless... to test accurately, the two radios need to be connected via coax, and an adequate attenuator in between. With that said, we had similar results to David, UNTIL we used faster processor boards. Processor speed was key. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Dennis Burgess - Linktechs.net dmburg...@linktechs.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations yep, anything more than -40 is BAD. better tests are around -55 or so.. -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* Jack Unger wrote: David, Just for info here but it's possible that your signals were so loud that the receivers were being overloaded. That drives them bananas... jack David E. Smith wrote: Dennis Burgess - Linktechs.net wrote: Yes you have to have a good processor, it does compression. I also believe it does MPPP as well, and larger frame sizes as well to get higher speeds. Hence, processor usage is key. When I was testing this - pretty informally, two radios set on the floor of the office about a hundred feet apart - the speeds weren't that much higher, and the latency was all weird. The RF link was pretty good (I think there was 40-some-odd points of SNR), and when I used them in regular AP/bridge mode, or basic WDS, I actually got better performance than when I enabled polling and Nstreme and all the other Mikrotik proprietary magic checkboxes. The throughput was pretty comparable, but when the link was even lightly loaded, pings went bananas. Instead of being consistent, some would be 3ms, some would be 100ms. I figured that was because my little ping packets were being bundled up with other packets, then transmitted when it was most efficient for the radio, as opposed to being sent on-demand. First, is that pretty close to accurate? Second, in the real world, when you're trying to do something like VOIP or gaming that's sensitive to latency, how noticeable is it? David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 Cisco Press Author - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs WISPs - Do you know where your customers are? For wireless coverage mapping see http://www.ask-wi.com/mapping FCC Lic. #PG-12-25133 LinkedIn Profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/jackunger Phone 818-227-4220 Email jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.5/1884 - Release Date: 1/9/2009 8:38 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?
I didn't think they needed a password to spoof your email addy? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 12:52 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good? What about forcing those accounts to change paswords? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: David E. Smith d...@mvn.net Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 3:31 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good? os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: It sounds like what you really have to do is tighten up your webmail. It's better to fix that than to put a band-aid on it. Though a good smtp spam filter is never a bad idea. The problem is that the Web mail isn't broken, as such. The attackers are using legitimate credentials to log in and send mail. Unfortunately, the mail software in question doesn't have rate-limits on a per-sender basis. I know, I should join the rest of you in the early 21st century. Anyone know of a reliable IIS geolocation filter? That'd solve the problem in an even more crazy roundabout way. David Smith MVN.net -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations
Instead of being consistent, some would be 3ms, some would be 100ms. notes... First, latency is not always bad, if it is not created by congestion that usually results in packet loss or slowing down TCPIP. Second, MT allows setting the packet combining into 1 of 3 ways. So if it is a problem, you can select the method that best matches your need. Unfortunteately, Ping is no longer an accurate way to test performance/proper optimization of a wireless network. This has caused me problems with custoemrs, because they don;t understand wireless network, and it makes it hard to guarantee latency in SLAs, if the way latency is meaured is by end user test tools using Ping. I can not speak for how MT does it, but I'm sure they use similar techniques. But I can use Trango ARQ as an example... In order to maximize throughput, if there is a packet lost, it will re-send the packet during the next transmission. So if data is constantly flowing (TCP and UDP) the re-tranmission will occur almost immediately. But with ICMP (ping) the protocol does not require another immediate transmission from the original side (meaning no packet behind it), so it waits a defined period for Trangos ARQ to re-send the Ping packet. That is why when a Trango link has minor packet loss (corrected by ARQ) the Ping times will sky rocket (200ms, 500, 700 etc ), but if you push TCP data, the latency of the TCP data will consistently be low. This can be proven by specific speed tests using the max speed = latency x window size. You can do a test (web based or Iperf) to the other side of teh US with a real 80ms latency, set to small window size, and watch the speed slow way down. Then do the same test on your wireless link that has random high latency w/ Pings, and Iperfs will show super fast trhoughput as if teh latency was really low. Or one can use a VOIP jitter testing tool. Trango ARQ is a bit off topic, but... Microtik Nstreme has some method of how it handles re-transmissions. This as well potentially could effect how ping reports, expecially in less than perfect link conditions. But it very well might not effect real TCP/UDP traffic. What you can also do is run a UDP iperf at a define slow speed under the capacity of the link. (for example set to do a 1mbps test on a 30mbps capable MT) and then simultaneously do a ping. Do you get the same low ping results? But my points is, Ping is not a reliable tool IF, it either has no other trafiic or has to much other traffic. Again, with packet stuffing, latency can go high IF there is not enough processing power to handle the routines. But it should not increase the latency much to combine packets, on proper equipment. (atleast not if the routine is written well) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Dennis Burgess - Linktechs.net dmburg...@linktechs.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations yep, anything more than -40 is BAD. better tests are around -55 or so.. -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* Jack Unger wrote: David, Just for info here but it's possible that your signals were so loud that the receivers were being overloaded. That drives them bananas... jack David E. Smith wrote: Dennis Burgess - Linktechs.net wrote: Yes you have to have a good processor, it does compression. I also believe it does MPPP as well, and larger frame sizes as well to get higher speeds. Hence, processor usage is key. When I was testing this - pretty informally, two radios set on the floor of the office about a hundred feet apart - the speeds weren't that much higher, and the latency was all weird. The RF link was pretty good (I think there was 40-some-odd points of SNR), and when I used them in regular AP/bridge mode, or basic WDS, I actually got better performance than when I enabled polling and Nstreme and all the other Mikrotik proprietary magic checkboxes. The throughput was pretty comparable, but when the link was even lightly loaded, pings went bananas. Instead of being consistent, some would be 3ms, some would be 100ms. I figured that was because my little ping packets were being bundled up with other packets, then transmitted when it was most efficient for the radio, as opposed to being sent on-demand. First, is that pretty close to accurate? Second, in the real world, when you're trying to do something like VOIP or gaming that's sensitive to latency, how noticeable is it? David
Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?
On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 11:35:57AM -0600, David E. Smith wrote: Mike Hammett wrote: What about forcing those accounts to change paswords? I've been doing that - again, I'm trying to be proactive rather than reactive. If I told my boss yeah, we need to change everyone's password he'd laugh at me. And not in a funny-ha-ha way. Have your techs look at each cutomer's password every time they talk to a customer. The customer is already on the phone, Dang, forgot my password again. Help them to choose a better password. We are gradually correcting years of allowing horrible passwords here. Who thought it was a good idea to let users' passwords be exactly the same as their username? Query your database for things like the above and force those customers to change their passwords *now*. At this point, I'm becoming more amenable to asking the customer to tape their password to the bottom of their keyboard, or write it on a card in their wallet rather than trying to get them to remember anything. Their keyboard/wallet is likely physicaly more secure than any password they will choose for themselves. If they are compromised, blackhole them. Make them call you to find out that their private information has been shared with one or more thugs in Russia, or China, or Milwalkee (no offense intended to anyone from any of these locations). Scare the bejeebers out of them. They need it if they are going to be even remotely safe online. Sign up for all the e-mail feedback loops you can. Those will get you the original spam messages with full headers so you can accurately identify your compromised customer. People don't bother reporting the spam they recieve to the originating ISP anymore. A feedback loop may provide you with your first indication that one of your customers' account has been compromised. That will let you kill them sooner to lessen the damage. If your mail/webmail server doesn't include the submitting IP for each message in the headers or at least something that ties it to a log entry which does contain the IP and timestamp, get new software. There are many other things you can find to do with a little time on Google. -- Scott LambertKC5MLE Unix SysAdmin lamb...@lambertfam.org WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?
Thanks for the advice, are you a Ham radio operator? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Lambert Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 2:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good? On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 11:35:57AM -0600, David E. Smith wrote: Mike Hammett wrote: What about forcing those accounts to change paswords? I've been doing that - again, I'm trying to be proactive rather than reactive. If I told my boss yeah, we need to change everyone's password he'd laugh at me. And not in a funny-ha-ha way. Have your techs look at each cutomer's password every time they talk to a customer. The customer is already on the phone, Dang, forgot my password again. Help them to choose a better password. We are gradually correcting years of allowing horrible passwords here. Who thought it was a good idea to let users' passwords be exactly the same as their username? Query your database for things like the above and force those customers to change their passwords *now*. At this point, I'm becoming more amenable to asking the customer to tape their password to the bottom of their keyboard, or write it on a card in their wallet rather than trying to get them to remember anything. Their keyboard/wallet is likely physicaly more secure than any password they will choose for themselves. If they are compromised, blackhole them. Make them call you to find out that their private information has been shared with one or more thugs in Russia, or China, or Milwalkee (no offense intended to anyone from any of these locations). Scare the bejeebers out of them. They need it if they are going to be even remotely safe online. Sign up for all the e-mail feedback loops you can. Those will get you the original spam messages with full headers so you can accurately identify your compromised customer. People don't bother reporting the spam they recieve to the originating ISP anymore. A feedback loop may provide you with your first indication that one of your customers' account has been compromised. That will let you kill them sooner to lessen the damage. If your mail/webmail server doesn't include the submitting IP for each message in the headers or at least something that ties it to a log entry which does contain the IP and timestamp, get new software. There are many other things you can find to do with a little time on Google. -- Scott LambertKC5MLE Unix SysAdmin lamb...@lambertfam.org WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations
Andrews Antenna P3F-52-NXA 5.8GHz backhaul radio died today because of a power surge. Old Proxim gear, 2 x T1. I wanted some feedback from vendors/users of what they are using. I need to keep it under $5K if possible. Link distance: 8.3 miles Antennas: Andrews P3F-52-NXA http://www.ubnt.com/products/bullet.php At less then $70 for a 5.x ghz module the price cant be beat. Have a couple on hand to try but no experience with them yet. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations
Trango Broadband 45Mbps P5055M-EXT __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: pni...@csweb.net ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations Andrews Antenna P3F-52-NXA 5.8GHz backhaul radio died today because of a power surge. Old Proxim gear, 2 x T1. I wanted some feedback from vendors/users of what they are using. I need to keep it under $5K if possible. Link distance: 8.3 miles Antennas: Andrews P3F-52-NXA http://www.ubnt.com/products/bullet.php At less then $70 for a 5.x ghz module the price cant be beat. Have a couple on hand to try but no experience with them yet. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?
On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 01:42:15PM -0600, David E. Smith wrote: Scott Lambert wrote: Have your techs look at each cutomer's password every time they talk to a customer. The customer is already on the phone, Dang, forgot my password again. Help them to choose a better password. Doesn't help, when the problem is their PC has keylogger software on it that sends their new password off to Lower Elbonia. It does help with the compromises. If the account is compromised twice, the customer has to bring in a Doctor's note saying that the system has been certified clean by some local, reputable, computer store, FOR THEIR PROTECTION, and yours. If a customer with a dirty computer refuses to clean it up and you don't remove their access, your mail servers will be blacklisted and all of your customers will be, hmm, let's call it slightly peeved? It can cost less to fire the customer. Customers often think they are good with computers and can use Windows Anti-Virus 2008/2009 to clean their own computer. We give them one chance to take care of it themselves. Then they have to have it done by a professional. After paying to have the computer cleaned a few times, they begin to believe us when we say that buying good anti-virus/spyware software, yearly, is cheap. Most of the relays via webmail or SMTP AUTH we have seen have been for users with stupid passwords, or users who fell for a phishing message. The compromised computers tend to send mail from their computer either directly or via our mail servers. The preemptive changing of weak passwords will head off a significant portion of successful relays. -- Scott LambertKC5MLE Unix SysAdmin lamb...@lambertfam.org WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?
If you have an inbound box, you can use it as an outbound relay. You don't get the full functionality as you would with a dedicated outbound box, but you do get some functionality, especially since you can see all inbound and outbound messages in the log. John Kurt Fankhauser wrote: According to the website one box is capable of running as either/or. (I thought) Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Thomas Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good? Are you guys using the outbound feature on your inbound Barracudas? It doesn't do as full a job as a outbound box, but it may help your problem. John Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Does anyone use the Barracuda's for outbound spam filtering and is it as good as the inbound version? I need to keep my mail server from getting blacklisted and am looking for a way to do it. Apparently someone is using my server to relay spam, (I am using pop before smtp so they must be authenticating first.) Also is it possible to use the outbound if you have outsourced email services, aka Jumpline ??? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?
In the Barracuda, under BasicAdministration at the bottom of the page, you choose the direction, inbound or outbound. If you click on Advanced, you should have an Outbound/Relay tab. If you set this to allow your email server to relay through the Barracuda, it will log your messages and do some basic scrubbing on the outbound messages. From a message on the Barracuda Forum There is some filtering which is done, mainly viruses, for outgoing email, but not all of the other filters are applied. We ended up getting a filter for outgoing to be able to limit what can be sent (ie. filter based on phishing attempts which make it through so that users can not reply). The real question is what is the audit trying to correct. Once you know that, then you can determine (by perhaps asking) if using the Barracuda for outgoing will solve those issues. In general, it is useful to have the mail routed through the Barracuda, as long as your box is fast enough to deal with all the email. It is quite helpful if email is reported as spam so that you can track it down (typically the debug header line is not removed). This is especially important if the message is not spam. John David E. Smith wrote: Kurt Fankhauser wrote: According to the website one box is capable of running as either/or. (I thought) But not both at the same time :( David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Rohn 55 pics
Does anyone have any pics of a guyed Rohn 55g with some parabolics on it? I need some pictures to help some folks visualize a tower. If you can help, hit me offlist. Thanks in advance, Chris Cooper Intelliwave WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations
I just lent a pair of Bullet5 units to a friend who is planning to replace some old upconverted Alvarion BH units on a 26 mile link with 2' dishes. That should be an interesting test. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com Matt wrote: Andrews Antenna P3F-52-NXA 5.8GHz backhaul radio died today because of a power surge. Old Proxim gear, 2 x T1. I wanted some feedback from vendors/users of what they are using. I need to keep it under $5K if possible. Link distance: 8.3 miles Antennas: Andrews P3F-52-NXA http://www.ubnt.com/products/bullet.php At less then $70 for a 5.x ghz module the price cant be beat. Have a couple on hand to try but no experience with them yet. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations
Please let us know how it worked Sent from my iPhone On Jan 9, 2009, at 7:40 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com wrote: I just lent a pair of Bullet5 units to a friend who is planning to replace some old upconverted Alvarion BH units on a 26 mile link with 2' dishes. That should be an interesting test. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com Matt wrote: Andrews Antenna P3F-52-NXA 5.8GHz backhaul radio died today because of a power surge. Old Proxim gear, 2 x T1. I wanted some feedback from vendors/users of what they are using. I need to keep it under $5K if possible. Link distance: 8.3 miles Antennas: Andrews P3F-52-NXA http://www.ubnt.com/products/bullet.php At less then $70 for a 5.x ghz module the price cant be beat. Have a couple on hand to try but no experience with them yet. Matt --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations
I just purchased a pair of the ps5 units and plan to give them a test also... Aerowire Alan Long Director of Network Operations alan.l...@aerowire.net 687 North Dean Road Auburn, AL 36830 tel: 3342759998 mobile: 336092 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 6:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations I just lent a pair of Bullet5 units to a friend who is planning to replace some old upconverted Alvarion BH units on a 26 mile link with 2' dishes. That should be an interesting test. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com Matt wrote: Andrews Antenna P3F-52-NXA 5.8GHz backhaul radio died today because of a power surge. Old Proxim gear, 2 x T1. I wanted some feedback from vendors/users of what they are using. I need to keep it under $5K if possible. Link distance: 8.3 miles Antennas: Andrews P3F-52-NXA http://www.ubnt.com/products/bullet.php At less then $70 for a 5.x ghz module the price cant be beat. Have a couple on hand to try but no experience with them yet. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1879 - Release Date: 1/6/2009 5:16 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Charging Battery Desulphator
Anyone familiar with these? http://www.solarconverters.com/desulphate10.htm I'm wondering if they are whats needed to bring any battery back to life. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?
They don't to spoof an email, they do to log into your webmail account and send email as you. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Jeff Broadwick jeffl...@comcast.net Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 12:48 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good? I didn't think they needed a password to spoof your email addy? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 12:52 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good? What about forcing those accounts to change paswords? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: David E. Smith d...@mvn.net Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 3:31 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good? os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: It sounds like what you really have to do is tighten up your webmail. It's better to fix that than to put a band-aid on it. Though a good smtp spam filter is never a bad idea. The problem is that the Web mail isn't broken, as such. The attackers are using legitimate credentials to log in and send mail. Unfortunately, the mail software in question doesn't have rate-limits on a per-sender basis. I know, I should join the rest of you in the early 21st century. Anyone know of a reliable IIS geolocation filter? That'd solve the problem in an even more crazy roundabout way. David Smith MVN.net -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Charging Battery Desulphator
Years ago you could buy a liquid that contained cadmium to supposedly do the same thing. That stuff was mostly snake oil in my experience, but maybe this gadget will work better. If you do buy one please let us know if it works ! Tom S. - Original Message - From: George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 7:20 PM Subject: [WISPA] Charging Battery Desulphator Anyone familiar with these? http://www.solarconverters.com/desulphate10.htm I'm wondering if they are whats needed to bring any battery back to life. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Charging Battery Desulphator
Lots of airplane owners swear by them. - Original Message - From: George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 8:20 PM Subject: [WISPA] Charging Battery Desulphator Anyone familiar with these? http://www.solarconverters.com/desulphate10.htm I'm wondering if they are whats needed to bring any battery back to life. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Charging Battery Desulphator
http://backwoodssolar.com/catalog/batteries.htm#BATTERY%20LIFE%20SAVER%20DE-SULFATOR ryan On Jan 9, 2009, at 7:20 PM, George Rogato wrote: Anyone familiar with these? http://www.solarconverters.com/desulphate10.htm I'm wondering if they are whats needed to bring any battery back to life. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations
I've got a 5GHz bullet talking to a WRAP on a 1 mile test link. It's working very well. I dont know about 8 miles though... -RickG On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote: Andrews Antenna P3F-52-NXA 5.8GHz backhaul radio died today because of a power surge. Old Proxim gear, 2 x T1. I wanted some feedback from vendors/users of what they are using. I need to keep it under $5K if possible. Link distance: 8.3 miles Antennas: Andrews P3F-52-NXA http://www.ubnt.com/products/bullet.php At less then $70 for a 5.x ghz module the price cant be beat. Have a couple on hand to try but no experience with them yet. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
