Re: [WISPA] 5.8Ghz Sector Antenna Recommendations

2009-09-27 Thread Paul Hendry
Has anyone tried out the new Ubiquiti dual-pol sectors yet? They look pretty 
good and could be good for future proofing assuming they perform.

-original message-
Subject: [WISPA] 5.8Ghz Sector Antenna Recommendations
From: pat p...@inlandnet.com
Date: 25/09/2009 6:50 pm

Looking to add a few 5.8GHz sectors, and I would like know what everyone 
else is using.

My first on that will go up ASAP is a 120' sector antenna, HPOL, 
N-connector.

Thanks,

Pat



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Re: [WISPA] 5.8Ghz Sector Antenna Recommendations

2009-09-27 Thread Gino Villarini
I have 2 we bought for test

Sent from my Motorola Startac...


On Sep 27, 2009, at 5:06 AM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com 
  wrote:

 Has anyone tried out the new Ubiquiti dual-pol sectors yet? They  
 look pretty good and could be good for future proofing assuming they  
 perform.

 -original message-
 Subject: [WISPA] 5.8Ghz Sector Antenna Recommendations
 From: pat p...@inlandnet.com
 Date: 25/09/2009 6:50 pm

 Looking to add a few 5.8GHz sectors, and I would like know what  
 everyone
 else is using.

 My first on that will go up ASAP is a 120' sector antenna, HPOL,
 N-connector.

 Thanks,

 Pat


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Re: [WISPA] 5.8Ghz Sector Antenna Recommendations

2009-09-27 Thread Jayson Baker
How's your test going?

On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:

 I have 2 we bought for test

 Sent from my Motorola Startac...


 On Sep 27, 2009, at 5:06 AM, Paul Hendry 
 paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com
   wrote:

  Has anyone tried out the new Ubiquiti dual-pol sectors yet? They
  look pretty good and could be good for future proofing assuming they
  perform.
 
  -original message-
  Subject: [WISPA] 5.8Ghz Sector Antenna Recommendations
  From: pat p...@inlandnet.com
  Date: 25/09/2009 6:50 pm
 
  Looking to add a few 5.8GHz sectors, and I would like know what
  everyone
  else is using.
 
  My first on that will go up ASAP is a 120' sector antenna, HPOL,
  N-connector.
 
  Thanks,
 
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Re: [WISPA] 5.8Ghz Sector Antenna Recommendations

2009-09-27 Thread Gino Villarini
You get what you pay for, havnt test it on the field yet. Quality is  
ok bracket has degrees for tilt and a bubble level

Connectors are rpsma

Sent from my Motorola Startac...


On Sep 27, 2009, at 10:30 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com  
wrote:

 I have 2 we bought for test

 Sent from my Motorola Startac...


 On Sep 27, 2009, at 5:06 AM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com
 wrote:

 Has anyone tried out the new Ubiquiti dual-pol sectors yet? They
 look pretty good and could be good for future proofing assuming they
 perform.

 -original message-
 Subject: [WISPA] 5.8Ghz Sector Antenna Recommendations
 From: pat p...@inlandnet.com
 Date: 25/09/2009 6:50 pm

 Looking to add a few 5.8GHz sectors, and I would like know what
 everyone
 else is using.

 My first on that will go up ASAP is a 120' sector antenna, HPOL,
 N-connector.

 Thanks,

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Re: [WISPA] leaky coax

2009-09-27 Thread Chuck Bartosch
Rather unlikely since the iPhone operates at 850, 900, 1800, 1900, and  
2100 MHz for the cell network (it also supports bluetooth and 802.11 b/ 
g of course).

Chuck

On Sep 26, 2009, at 12:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 Is this for the purpose of interfering with the iPhones?

 On 9/26/09, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote:
 We used LC quite a bit about 10 years ago in apartments and hotels.  
 Worked
 pretty well.

 Cisco BR342 -- YDI amp -- 200'

 No reason you could not use a splitter and put 2.4 and 5.8 on the  
 same run.

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- 
 boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Rogelio
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 7:54 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] leaky coax

 I've got an area of a college football stadium (100K+ people) that  
 has a
 student section with an expected 50% iPhone usage rate, so I'm
 considering a leaky coax solution.

 Does anyone have any experience (good or bad) with such a solution?
 Also, say I want the leaky coax to work on both 2.4 and 5.8, is  
 there a
 special multiplexer thing I gotta put it?

 (I'm new at this and am still researching it)


 
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Re: [WISPA] Micropops

2009-09-27 Thread Chuck Bartosch
I don't use tethering since I haven't otherwise felt the need to  
jailbreak my phone. On the other hand, I've been extremely pleased  
with ATT's network for Internet access. I took a train from New  
Orleans (still doing reconstruction trips to the Katrina damaged  
areas) to Minneapolis (via Chicago), and then on to Syracuse, NY last  
year and never had a problem using my dongle to get access on my  
laptop (I wasn't using my iPhone for email back then, though I do  
now). The coverage was surprisingly solid. Here in upstate NY I have  
at least Edge coverage wherever I need it.

I know that's not true in the most rural areas in our territory, but  
all the typical cities, towns, and villages have usable access.

Chuck

On Sep 27, 2009, at 12:12 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 Maybe it's just ATT that has problems everywhere...

 On 9/26/09, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
 I've never had a problem tethering with my Sprint phone.  It has  
 worked over
 EVDO and whatever their 2.5G was.  Unfortunately, I got a new phone  
 that
 Sprint hasn't made it easy to unlock the tethering (last one was just
 install USB drivers).


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



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 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 5:17 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Micropops

 I have an ATT aircard built into my laptop (Thinkpad t500; Ericsson
 f3507g)
 and if it worked half of the places I try I'd be happy.  Many  
 places just
 don't seem offer a strong enough signal and the rest associate but  
 never
 get
 pppoe operating.  There have been a few places where their DNS was  
 down,
 but
 I got online and used my own DNS.

 Don't count on aircards for remote connectivity (or your cell  
 phone for
 data, tethered or not).

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains,  
 however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

 I usually just sit down and cry for a few minutes, somehow find a  
 way to
 blame the customer, cry again for a few minutes, etc.



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- 
 boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 3:05 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Micropops

 Call the office.  Think it out.  What else are you going to do?   
 Turn
 into
 a
 brain dead company like Big Cable Co and scramble when things  
 don't work?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains,  
 however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Josh Cheney  
 josh.che...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Of course, if the reason you are at a particular site is because  
 their
 connection is down, having the docs online doesn't help all that
 much...

 Robert West wrote:
 I agree.  I'd like to eventually have all the docs of every  
 install
 online
 so they can be pulled up from wherever I'm at.  Not so for me  
 at the
 moment.



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- 
 boun...@wispa.org]
 On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:41 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Micropops

 Most people will also say to have the enclosure outdoors (even if
 it's
 another $200 to do so) so you have access to it when the  
 resident is
 gone.
 Get paperwork that allows you to do so.

 Installs should have a picture of the SU/SM/CPE, where it  
 penetrates
 the
 wall and the POE.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains,  
 however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 11:32 PM, jree...@18-30chat.net 
 jree...@18-30chat.net wrote:

 inline

 Mark Nash wrote:
 I'd like to hear opinions on what Micropops do to your  
 business.

 1. How many customers do you look for before you install even  
 the
 least
 expensive MPoP?
 1
 I can not think of a single person (on my net) that does not  
 have a
 laptop.
 They
 need a AP so you mighht as well leverage it (Its mine, I  
 manage it,
 they
 have
 ZERO access to it)

 The worst someone can do to my network (with out figuring out  
 some
 user/pass) is
 to unplug some part of it or otherwise damage hardware.

 2. I've always been of the opinion that having many small MPoPs
 devalues
 my
 business to a prospective buyer.
 Why?

 3. I've always thought that having many small MPoPs is a  
 problem
 for
 tech
 support (we 

Re: [WISPA] Micropops

2009-09-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Well you're comparing cities to a few miles outside cities.  I'd be
very disappointed if it didn't work downtown or something.

On 9/27/09, Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com wrote:
 I don't use tethering since I haven't otherwise felt the need to
 jailbreak my phone. On the other hand, I've been extremely pleased
 with ATT's network for Internet access. I took a train from New
 Orleans (still doing reconstruction trips to the Katrina damaged
 areas) to Minneapolis (via Chicago), and then on to Syracuse, NY last
 year and never had a problem using my dongle to get access on my
 laptop (I wasn't using my iPhone for email back then, though I do
 now). The coverage was surprisingly solid. Here in upstate NY I have
 at least Edge coverage wherever I need it.

 I know that's not true in the most rural areas in our territory, but
 all the typical cities, towns, and villages have usable access.

 Chuck

 On Sep 27, 2009, at 12:12 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 Maybe it's just ATT that has problems everywhere...

 On 9/26/09, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
 I've never had a problem tethering with my Sprint phone.  It has
 worked over
 EVDO and whatever their 2.5G was.  Unfortunately, I got a new phone
 that
 Sprint hasn't made it easy to unlock the tethering (last one was just
 install USB drivers).


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 5:17 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Micropops

 I have an ATT aircard built into my laptop (Thinkpad t500; Ericsson
 f3507g)
 and if it worked half of the places I try I'd be happy.  Many
 places just
 don't seem offer a strong enough signal and the rest associate but
 never
 get
 pppoe operating.  There have been a few places where their DNS was
 down,
 but
 I got online and used my own DNS.

 Don't count on aircards for remote connectivity (or your cell
 phone for
 data, tethered or not).

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains,
 however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

 I usually just sit down and cry for a few minutes, somehow find a
 way to
 blame the customer, cry again for a few minutes, etc.



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-
 boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 3:05 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Micropops

 Call the office.  Think it out.  What else are you going to do?
 Turn
 into
 a
 brain dead company like Big Cable Co and scramble when things
 don't work?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains,
 however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Josh Cheney
 josh.che...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Of course, if the reason you are at a particular site is because
 their
 connection is down, having the docs online doesn't help all that
 much...

 Robert West wrote:
 I agree.  I'd like to eventually have all the docs of every
 install
 online
 so they can be pulled up from wherever I'm at.  Not so for me
 at the
 moment.



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-
 boun...@wispa.org]
 On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:41 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Micropops

 Most people will also say to have the enclosure outdoors (even if
 it's
 another $200 to do so) so you have access to it when the
 resident is
 gone.
 Get paperwork that allows you to do so.

 Installs should have a picture of the SU/SM/CPE, where it
 penetrates
 the
 wall and the POE.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains,
 however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 11:32 PM, jree...@18-30chat.net 
 jree...@18-30chat.net wrote:

 inline

 Mark Nash wrote:
 I'd like to hear opinions on what Micropops do to your
 business.

 1. How many customers do you look for before you install even
 the
 least
 expensive MPoP?
 1
 I can not think of a single person (on my net) that does not
 have a
 laptop.
 They
 need a AP so you mighht as well leverage it (Its mine, I
 manage it,
 they
 have
 ZERO access to it)

 The worst someone can do to my network (with out figuring out
 some
 user/pass) is
 to unplug some part of it or otherwise damage hardware.

 2. I've always been of the opinion that having many small MPoPs
 devalues
 my
 

Re: [WISPA] Micropops

2009-09-27 Thread Chuck Bartosch
Not really. That's the point of mentioning the train trip up the  
Mississippi and over to Chicago. That trip is over 1000 miles and  
there are very long stretches with not much there.

Chuck

On Sep 27, 2009, at 6:09 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 Well you're comparing cities to a few miles outside cities.  I'd be
 very disappointed if it didn't work downtown or something.

 On 9/27/09, Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com wrote:
 I don't use tethering since I haven't otherwise felt the need to
 jailbreak my phone. On the other hand, I've been extremely pleased
 with ATT's network for Internet access. I took a train from New
 Orleans (still doing reconstruction trips to the Katrina damaged
 areas) to Minneapolis (via Chicago), and then on to Syracuse, NY last
 year and never had a problem using my dongle to get access on my
 laptop (I wasn't using my iPhone for email back then, though I do
 now). The coverage was surprisingly solid. Here in upstate NY I have
 at least Edge coverage wherever I need it.

 I know that's not true in the most rural areas in our territory, but
 all the typical cities, towns, and villages have usable access.

 Chuck

 On Sep 27, 2009, at 12:12 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 Maybe it's just ATT that has problems everywhere...

 On 9/26/09, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
 I've never had a problem tethering with my Sprint phone.  It has
 worked over
 EVDO and whatever their 2.5G was.  Unfortunately, I got a new phone
 that
 Sprint hasn't made it easy to unlock the tethering (last one was  
 just
 install USB drivers).


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 5:17 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Micropops

 I have an ATT aircard built into my laptop (Thinkpad t500;  
 Ericsson
 f3507g)
 and if it worked half of the places I try I'd be happy.  Many
 places just
 don't seem offer a strong enough signal and the rest associate but
 never
 get
 pppoe operating.  There have been a few places where their DNS was
 down,
 but
 I got online and used my own DNS.

 Don't count on aircards for remote connectivity (or your cell
 phone for
 data, tethered or not).

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains,
 however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

 I usually just sit down and cry for a few minutes, somehow find a
 way to
 blame the customer, cry again for a few minutes, etc.



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-
 boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 3:05 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Micropops

 Call the office.  Think it out.  What else are you going to do?
 Turn
 into
 a
 brain dead company like Big Cable Co and scramble when things
 don't work?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains,
 however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Josh Cheney
 josh.che...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Of course, if the reason you are at a particular site is because
 their
 connection is down, having the docs online doesn't help all that
 much...

 Robert West wrote:
 I agree.  I'd like to eventually have all the docs of every
 install
 online
 so they can be pulled up from wherever I'm at.  Not so for me
 at the
 moment.



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-
 boun...@wispa.org]
 On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:41 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Micropops

 Most people will also say to have the enclosure outdoors  
 (even if
 it's
 another $200 to do so) so you have access to it when the
 resident is
 gone.
 Get paperwork that allows you to do so.

 Installs should have a picture of the SU/SM/CPE, where it
 penetrates
 the
 wall and the POE.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains,
 however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 11:32 PM, jree...@18-30chat.net 
 jree...@18-30chat.net wrote:

 inline

 Mark Nash wrote:
 I'd like to hear opinions on what Micropops do to your
 business.

 1. How many customers do you look for before you install even
 the
 least
 expensive MPoP?
 1
 I can not think of a single person (on my net) that does not
 have a
 laptop.
 They
 need a AP so you mighht as well leverage it (Its mine, I
 manage 

Re: [WISPA] Micropops

2009-09-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Well then Ohio sucks.  Either way there are countless areas where I
have 0 bars and even more places where I have bars but can't get
online.

On 9/27/09, Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com wrote:
 Not really. That's the point of mentioning the train trip up the
 Mississippi and over to Chicago. That trip is over 1000 miles and
 there are very long stretches with not much there.

 Chuck

 On Sep 27, 2009, at 6:09 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 Well you're comparing cities to a few miles outside cities.  I'd be
 very disappointed if it didn't work downtown or something.

 On 9/27/09, Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com wrote:
 I don't use tethering since I haven't otherwise felt the need to
 jailbreak my phone. On the other hand, I've been extremely pleased
 with ATT's network for Internet access. I took a train from New
 Orleans (still doing reconstruction trips to the Katrina damaged
 areas) to Minneapolis (via Chicago), and then on to Syracuse, NY last
 year and never had a problem using my dongle to get access on my
 laptop (I wasn't using my iPhone for email back then, though I do
 now). The coverage was surprisingly solid. Here in upstate NY I have
 at least Edge coverage wherever I need it.

 I know that's not true in the most rural areas in our territory, but
 all the typical cities, towns, and villages have usable access.

 Chuck

 On Sep 27, 2009, at 12:12 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 Maybe it's just ATT that has problems everywhere...

 On 9/26/09, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
 I've never had a problem tethering with my Sprint phone.  It has
 worked over
 EVDO and whatever their 2.5G was.  Unfortunately, I got a new phone
 that
 Sprint hasn't made it easy to unlock the tethering (last one was
 just
 install USB drivers).


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 5:17 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Micropops

 I have an ATT aircard built into my laptop (Thinkpad t500;
 Ericsson
 f3507g)
 and if it worked half of the places I try I'd be happy.  Many
 places just
 don't seem offer a strong enough signal and the rest associate but
 never
 get
 pppoe operating.  There have been a few places where their DNS was
 down,
 but
 I got online and used my own DNS.

 Don't count on aircards for remote connectivity (or your cell
 phone for
 data, tethered or not).

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains,
 however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

 I usually just sit down and cry for a few minutes, somehow find a
 way to
 blame the customer, cry again for a few minutes, etc.



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-
 boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 3:05 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Micropops

 Call the office.  Think it out.  What else are you going to do?
 Turn
 into
 a
 brain dead company like Big Cable Co and scramble when things
 don't work?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains,
 however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Josh Cheney
 josh.che...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Of course, if the reason you are at a particular site is because
 their
 connection is down, having the docs online doesn't help all that
 much...

 Robert West wrote:
 I agree.  I'd like to eventually have all the docs of every
 install
 online
 so they can be pulled up from wherever I'm at.  Not so for me
 at the
 moment.



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-
 boun...@wispa.org]
 On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:41 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Micropops

 Most people will also say to have the enclosure outdoors
 (even if
 it's
 another $200 to do so) so you have access to it when the
 resident is
 gone.
 Get paperwork that allows you to do so.

 Installs should have a picture of the SU/SM/CPE, where it
 penetrates
 the
 wall and the POE.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains,
 however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 11:32 PM, jree...@18-30chat.net 
 jree...@18-30chat.net wrote:

 inline

 Mark Nash wrote:
 I'd like to hear opinions on what Micropops do to your
 business.

 1. How many customers do you look for before you