Well you're comparing cities to a few miles outside cities. I'd be very disappointed if it didn't work downtown or something.
On 9/27/09, Chuck Bartosch <ch...@clarityconnect.com> wrote: > I don't use tethering since I haven't otherwise felt the need to > jailbreak my phone. On the other hand, I've been extremely pleased > with AT&T's network for Internet access. I took a train from New > Orleans (still doing reconstruction trips to the Katrina damaged > areas) to Minneapolis (via Chicago), and then on to Syracuse, NY last > year and never had a problem using my "dongle" to get access on my > laptop (I wasn't using my iPhone for email back then, though I do > now). The coverage was surprisingly solid. Here in upstate NY I have > at least Edge coverage wherever I need it. > > I know that's not true in the most rural areas in our territory, but > all the typical cities, towns, and villages have usable access. > > Chuck > > On Sep 27, 2009, at 12:12 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > >> Maybe it's just ATT that has problems everywhere... >> >> On 9/26/09, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net> wrote: >>> I've never had a problem tethering with my Sprint phone. It has >>> worked over >>> EVDO and whatever their 2.5G was. Unfortunately, I got a new phone >>> that >>> Sprint hasn't made it easy to unlock the tethering (last one was just >>> install USB drivers). >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 5:17 PM >>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Micropops >>> >>>> I have an AT&T aircard built into my laptop (Thinkpad t500; Ericsson >>>> f3507g) >>>> and if it worked half of the places I try I'd be happy. Many >>>> places just >>>> don't seem offer a strong enough signal and the rest associate but >>>> never >>>> get >>>> pppoe operating. There have been a few places where their DNS was >>>> down, >>>> but >>>> I got online and used my own DNS. >>>> >>>> Don't count on aircards for remote connectivity (or your cell >>>> phone for >>>> data, tethered or not). >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, >>>> however >>>> improbable, must be the truth." >>>> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Robert West >>>> <robert.w...@just-micro.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> I usually just sit down and cry for a few minutes, somehow find a >>>>> way to >>>>> blame the customer, cry again for a few minutes, etc..... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- >>>>> boun...@wispa.org] On >>>>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman >>>>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 3:05 PM >>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Micropops >>>>> >>>>> Call the office. Think it out. What else are you going to do? >>>>> Turn >>>>> into >>>>> a >>>>> brain dead company like Big Cable Co and scramble when things >>>>> don't work? >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> >>>>> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, >>>>> however >>>>> improbable, must be the truth." >>>>> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Josh Cheney >>>>> <josh.che...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Of course, if the reason you are at a particular site is because >>>>>> their >>>>>> connection is down, having the docs online doesn't help all that >>>>>> much... >>>>>> >>>>>> Robert West wrote: >>>>>>> I agree. I'd like to eventually have all the docs of every >>>>>>> install >>>>>> online >>>>>>> so they can be pulled up from wherever I'm at. Not so for me >>>>>>> at the >>>>>> moment. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- >>>>>>> boun...@wispa.org] >>>>> On >>>>>>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:41 PM >>>>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Micropops >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Most people will also say to have the enclosure outdoors (even if >>>>>>> it's >>>>>>> another $200 to do so) so you have access to it when the >>>>>>> resident is >>>>>> gone. >>>>>>> Get paperwork that allows you to do so. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Installs should have a picture of the SU/SM/CPE, where it >>>>>>> penetrates >>>>> the >>>>>>> wall and the POE. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, >>>>>>> however >>>>>>> improbable, must be the truth." >>>>>>> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 11:32 PM, jree...@18-30chat.net < >>>>>>> jree...@18-30chat.net> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> inline >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mark Nash wrote: >>>>>>>>> I'd like to hear opinions on what Micropops do to your >>>>>>>>> business. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1. How many customers do you look for before you install even >>>>>>>>> the >>>>> least >>>>>>>>> expensive MPoP? >>>>>>>> 1 >>>>>>>> I can not think of a single person (on my net) that does not >>>>>>>> have a >>>>>>> laptop. >>>>>>>> They >>>>>>>> need a AP so you mighht as well leverage it (Its mine, I >>>>>>>> manage it, >>>>> they >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> ZERO access to it) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The worst someone can do to my network (with out figuring out >>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>> user/pass) is >>>>>>>> to unplug some part of it or otherwise damage hardware. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2. I've always been of the opinion that having many small MPoPs >>>>>> devalues >>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>> business to a prospective buyer. >>>>>>>> Why? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 3. I've always thought that having many small MPoPs is a >>>>>>>>> problem >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>> tech >>>>>>>>> support (we have 700 customers and 3 techs...not everyone knows >>>>>>>>> what >>>>>>> each >>>>>>>>> installation looks like or how it's connected necessarily). >>>>>>>> Documentation! >>>>>>>> I have found that pictures of >every< install is a must. I >>>>>>>> have a >>>>> place >>>>>>>> where I >>>>>>>> store everything (other then just my brain!) even tho I am >>>>>>>> still in >>>>> the >>>>>>> one >>>>>>>> man >>>>>>>> shop stages with this one. I keep every firmware, every >>>>>>>> application, >>>>>> reams >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> note pads, etc. I distill it down every so often. The one >>>>>>>> thing I am >>>>>>>> missing >>>>>>>> most )and am working on fixing that) is a GOOD network >>>>>>>> resource map >>>>>> setup. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think this is good discussion... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Just because you CAN do it, SHOULD you do it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Depends on a few factors... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1. Do I need/want to make money any which way I can? >>>>>>>> Yes! =) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> OK OK, no bank robberies. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2. How much do I put into a MPoP (battery backup vs. power >>>>>>>>> outage & >>>>> no >>>>>>>>> access to AP if its host is on vacation) >>>>>>>> Thats easy. How often is power out? I have full site access >>>>>>>> (roof) >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> everything is there. I will be adding out door mounted UPS's >>>>>>>> as it >>>>> makes >>>>>>>> sense >>>>>>>> to. For the most part, when power is out here, everyone is >>>>>>>> with out. >>>>> In >>>>>>>> years >>>>>>>> the only power outage that did not take >everyone< out let us >>>>>>>> know >>>>> there >>>>>>>> was a >>>>>>>> issue with one of the primary UPS's. APC and it had no idea the >>>>> battery >>>>>>> was >>>>>>>> bad >>>>>>>> till after the power failed. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 3. Do I plan to sell my business and if I do should I stick to >>>>>>>> traditional >>>>>>>>> "inside-the-box" installations? >>>>>>>> Right now, I do not plan to sell (no way would I get out what >>>>>>>> I have >>>>> put >>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> time >>>>>>>> wise). Would I ever sell? Sure its on the table but right now >>>>>>>> I can >>>>> not >>>>>>>> demand >>>>>>>> the price I would need to move on to bigger/better projects. I >>>>>>>> expect >>>>>> that >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> change some day. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "inside the box" oh man. I had a convo with a SBC rep once. >>>>>>>> DS3 port >>>>>>> $2000, >>>>>>>> 700ft to cross the street $28K. Wireless? to quote "That (roof >>>>>>>> access) >>>>>> is >>>>>>>> to far >>>>>>>> out side the box". This is 10 years ago. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On a side, I play the lotto and fiddle with numbers and burn >>>>>>>> $5/mo >>>>>>>> or >>>>> so >>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> tickets. Its a hobby and it pays off often enough to fund >>>>>>>> itself. If >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>> were >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> ever 'win big' I would do this for free, I simply love doing it. >>>>>>>> Yes, >>>>> I >>>>>> am >>>>>>>> certifiable. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Mark Nash >>>>>>>>> UnwiredWest >>>>>>>>> 78 Centennial Loop >>>>>>>>> Suite E >>>>>>>>> Eugene, OR 97401 >>>>>>>>> 541-998-5555 >>>>>>>>> 541-998-5599 fax >>>>>>>>> http://www.unwiredwest.com >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>> From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 2:39 PM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Micropops >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm doing just that using Ubiquiti Pico2HP units as the AP and >>>>> bullets >>>>>>>>>> for the backhaul (5GHz whenever possible). >>>>>>>>>> -RickG >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Mark McElvy <mmce...@accubak.com >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> I suppose that is a good term, I would like to be able to >>>>>> redistribute >>>>>>>>>>> service to small pockets of houses, 6-12, without putting >>>>>>>>>>> up a >>>>>>>>>>> full >>>>>>>>>>> blown AP/BH setup. 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