[WISPA] Broadband Stimulus Update - NARUC Presentation by Jonathan Adelstein and Larry Strickling

2009-11-19 Thread Charles Wu
NARUC 121st Annual Convention:
11/17/09
11:00 a.m. - 12:30 p.m.
5th Floor - Ballroom D
National Broadband Stimulus Update
Larry Strickling, Director of NTIA and Jonathan Adelstein, Administrator of the 
USDA Rural Utility Service provide an update on the American Recovery and 
Reinvestment Act broadband grant and loan programs.

Moderator: Hon Phil Jones - Commissioner: Washington Utilities and 
Transportation Commission
Panelists:
Hon Larry Strickling - Asst Secreatry for Communications and Info and Director, 
NTIA
Hon Jonathan Adelstein - Administrator, Rural Development Utilities - USDA

Recorded Audio Presentation can be downloaded here: 
http://www.winog.org/index.php?q=bbstimupdate_111709




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Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

2009-11-19 Thread Jason Hensley
What do you not like about the PacWireless ones?


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:14 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

Hi All,

What are you using for grid antennas?  I really don't like the Pac Wireless 
ones.  But I need something new because the Andrew (can't remember the new 
name) ones are being discontinued.

Suggestions?
marlon





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Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5

2009-11-19 Thread Mike Hammett
AFAIK, there is no standard for PoE on GigE, so each company does their own 
thing until a standard is made available.  I have heard one reference to it 
as power over datalines.


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From: Matt lm7...@gmail.com
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5

 There's the confusion.  2 standards.  One with 4 pair and one with 2 
 pair.
 Gotta love standards.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabit_Ethernet#1000BASE-T

 The Motorola PTP600 has a GigE port and POE.  So will POE still work with 
 GigE?

 Matt


 
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Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5

2009-11-19 Thread Mike Hammett
Speaking of DragonWave...  They have radios now that do more than 1 Gbit of 
throughput in a single direction.  Are they just doing multiple GigE ports 
or is a 10GigE interface available?


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From: 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 6:07 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5

 Yes... although be careful what surge suppressors you use :-)

 Dragonwave also uses GigE with PoE for instance on the Horizon Compact.

 Daniel White
 3-dB Networks
 http://www.3dbnetworks.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Matt
 Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 4:11 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5

 There's the confusion.  2 standards.  One with 4 pair and one with 2
 pair.
 Gotta love standards.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabit_Ethernet#1000BASE-T

 The Motorola PTP600 has a GigE port and POE.  So will POE still work with
 GigE?

 Matt


 
 
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Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

2009-11-19 Thread Mike Hammett
I believe Commscope was the company that purchased Andrew.


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From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:13 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

 Hi All,

 What are you using for grid antennas?  I really don't like the Pac 
 Wireless
 ones.  But I need something new because the Andrew (can't remember the new
 name) ones are being discontinued.

 Suggestions?
 marlon



 
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Re: [WISPA] X86 low power board w/3 or more ethernet

2009-11-19 Thread Dennis Burgess
What do you consider low power?  THe PowerRouter 732 will operate at
GigE speeds, 7 GigE Interfaces and consumes around 80 watts.

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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of MDK
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 4:33 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] X86 low power board w/3 or more ethernet


Looking for an x86 compatible board of some kind with at least 3 or
(better) 
more ethernet ports.

Anyone have suggestions?

Needs to have enough cpu power to route full 100m ethernet speed.
gigE 
would be even better.

I've not found such a beast... but I need one where there's no ac power,
no 
climate control...

 





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Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

2009-11-19 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
In my testing they are often at least 2 or three dB less than the rating. 
They have a crappy bracket.  They are 2x heavier.

Actually, there isn't anything that I DO like about them.  Been that way for 
years.  I even tried one again a year or so ago.  yuck

marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 7:20 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas


 What do you not like about the PacWireless ones?


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:14 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

 Hi All,

 What are you using for grid antennas?  I really don't like the Pac 
 Wireless
 ones.  But I need something new because the Andrew (can't remember the new
 name) ones are being discontinued.

 Suggestions?
 marlon



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

2009-11-19 Thread Robert West
I second and also third that opinion on the Pac bracket.   S U C K S !

I use them for backhauls and they aren't spaced too far apart so the loss of
dB isn't much of an issue with me at the moment.  Is there a grid that isn't
that much more in cost but a better value for the buck?



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 10:39 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

In my testing they are often at least 2 or three dB less than the rating. 
They have a crappy bracket.  They are 2x heavier.

Actually, there isn't anything that I DO like about them.  Been that way for

years.  I even tried one again a year or so ago.  yuck

marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 7:20 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas


 What do you not like about the PacWireless ones?


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:14 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

 Hi All,

 What are you using for grid antennas?  I really don't like the Pac 
 Wireless
 ones.  But I need something new because the Andrew (can't remember the new
 name) ones are being discontinued.

 Suggestions?
 marlon





 
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Re: [WISPA] X86 low power board w/3 or more ethernet

2009-11-19 Thread MDK

Low power is 10 watts or less.

This site runs on solar/wind power.The amount of power available is very 
limited.

I've been looking at multiport ethernet card/mini-itx board combinations to 
do the trick...

Awkward physically, and a little on the large size for power consumption, 
though the ALIX mini-itx is quite attractive for that.



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Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 7:34 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] X86 low power board w/3 or more ethernet

 What do you consider low power?  THe PowerRouter 732 will operate at
 GigE speeds, 7 GigE Interfaces and consumes around 80 watts.

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 Author of Learn RouterOS


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of MDK
 Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 4:33 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] X86 low power board w/3 or more ethernet


 Looking for an x86 compatible board of some kind with at least 3 or
 (better)
 more ethernet ports.

 Anyone have suggestions?

 Needs to have enough cpu power to route full 100m ethernet speed.
 gigE
 would be even better.

 I've not found such a beast... but I need one where there's no ac power,
 no
 climate control...





 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Reset StarOS

2009-11-19 Thread John Valenti
Steve,
I don't know about WRAP, but for War2 boards I'm pretty sure you need  
to ssh (putty) into it, go into System ... System Console. Then type  
in system factory.  That resets everything to factory defaults (ip  
address, passwords, everything)

You can do the same process on War1 boards, but they also have a reset  
switch that does the same thing. (little pushbutton, next to DC power  
connector I think)
-John

On Nov 18, 2009, at 2:41 PM, Steve Barnes wrote:

 I am changing all my network out to Mikrotik and have 8 various  
 StarOS War1, War2, and Wrap boards that I plan to sell on Ebay.  I  
 never really learned how to mess with these so is there a easy way  
 to reset all these back to factory or do I have to do it one at a  
 time with putty?  And what is the best way to clear the compact  
 flash on the Wrap boards.  With StarOS is there a easy way to do a  
 lookup for them like you do on the Mikrotik's with the ... button on  
 Winbox?




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Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

2009-11-19 Thread MDK
I believe Advanced Antenna bought out the old Equinox company, and now it 
appears they, too, have gone belly-up - or at least the old website is now 
gone (www.advancedantennainc.com).Perhaps now there's yet another 
operating under the old brand, or maybe they changed websites and I can't 
find the new one.

Over the years I've used a number of their antennas, and they were by far, 
the most troublesome I have used.   They were even heavier than the 
pacwireless, and used the same flimsy bracket, with the dipole attached to 
the BRACKET not the dish, and the L shaped bracket would bend in the wind, 
leaving the dish and dipole out of alignment.We actually engineered a 
cable retention system we used on both theirs and PW's large grids to keep 
them pointed properly in high winds.

They finally upgraded to a much heavier gauge bracket, but the design flaw 
remained. Then sometime later, I bought a boxful of 2.4 samples (from 
low to high gain), and found they simply weren't worth messing with.   2 out 
of 5 had bad dipoles - one failed on install, the other failed a few months 
later.The price was very cheap, however.   And, they did appear to have 
roughly the gain they claimed.

I took the dipoles apart and found that the construction was beyond bad. 
They were just crude and poorly constructed and poorly designed in every way 
eXCEPT the dipole printed on a PCB, which was very nicely done.
THAT was my experience with the Equinox branded antennas.

Later, I got quotes from Advanced Antenna, and bought bunch of the j-arm 
universal mounts, which were great.Upon calling back, I got my call 
answered by the same guy who used to be at Equinox...   They raised the 
prices of their antennas above pacwireless, so I never bought a thing from 
them except j arm mounts.

Some of the equinox guys left and started their own company,  and I recall 
they had a new name and new location, but I never bought anything from them, 
since my biggest use of antennas is 5 ghz and theirs cost more than 
Pacwireless.   I no longer recall the name they operated under.

Lately, I've used a bunch of Arcwireless panels with the enclosure on the 
back, and the performance from those has been better than any grids I've 
used.Not to mention that compex finally got their certifications done a 
few years ago and that was the antenna of choice :)

 The 23 db panel gave us better RSSI than a 25 db PW grid for a given 
distance.The 2.4 panel performance is also very good.

We lately used mostly ubiquiti bullets (not hp) for cpe and have gone back 
to the PW grids, because the standalone panel antenna mounts for Arcwireless 
totally suck.They're weak,  clumsy, and even look strange.

THere are two versions of PacWireless 5 ghz grids, there's a wideband and a 
narrow band.The wideband has an attached pigtail, and is cheaper by a 
few bucks.   We've had a number of them that didn't work right, found some 
had the beam off to the side,  or other quirks, like wildly varying RSSI for 
small frequency changes.The narrow band ones have no pigtail, but have 
worked better and more reliably, but we find them VERY hard to waterproof. 
We've found that some of the pigtails built onto the grids have leaked water 
right past the shrink wrap.   A couple of temporary installs we used just 
filled themselves with water, which apparently had to come through the 
sheath of the cable, or through the shrink wrap itself.   Still, we keep 
using them by default, because we haven't found any good alternative.   If 
one of them behaves funny, we just toss it in the van and use it in some 
location that's real short distance and the gain or odd beam isn't an issue. 
Still, the water issue was a problem that I am extremely concerned about, 
though the failure rate has been small and only affects a few recent 
installs.

I got some ignition spec dielectric grease and filled the connector with it 
and it's been fine ever since...  the temp install has now made it through 
several more driving rainstorms with no issue, when it failed on the FIRST 
big rain this summer.







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Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 9:16 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

 Try Advanced Antenna... I've sold a few and have not heard any 
 complaints...
 have not seen them myself though.

 Daniel White
 3-dB Networks
 http://www.3dbnetworks.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 10:14 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

 Hi All,

 What are you using for grid antennas?  I really don't like the Pac 
 Wireless
 ones.  But I need something new because the Andrew (can't remember the new
 name) ones are being discontinued.

 Suggestions?
 marlon



 

[WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors

2009-11-19 Thread MDK

I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. 
Anyone out west have these?

Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 
foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues.

We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of 
them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless 
forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made 
I've bought from multiple places.   Our temporary site needed to go up in a 
real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them 
have had issues.

 




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Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

2009-11-19 Thread Marco Coelho
If anybody is interested, I've got about 200 2.4 GHz  24db grids (mix
of andrew and rf antenna ) some brand new some used.
We don't use these anymore.
They are located in Greenville, TX

contact me off-list if you're interested.

Marco Coelho
Argon Technologies Inc.



On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Larry Yunker
leyun...@wispadvantage.com wrote:
 I would have to agree with Marlon, my experience with Pacwireless grids was
 less than exceptional.  On the other hand I really like their horizontal
 sectors and horizontal omnis.

 If you are still looking for a replacement for the Andrew 2.4Ghz 24dbi, we
 used to purchase our 24db's from Hyperlink Technologies and had good luck
 with those.

 Here's a link:

 http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=22370cmp=ALSOS


 Regards,
 Larry Yunker




 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 10:39 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

 In my testing they are often at least 2 or three dB less than the rating.
 They have a crappy bracket.  They are 2x heavier.

 Actually, there isn't anything that I DO like about them.  Been that way for

 years.  I even tried one again a year or so ago.  yuck

 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 7:20 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas


 What do you not like about the PacWireless ones?


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:14 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

 Hi All,

 What are you using for grid antennas?  I really don't like the Pac
 Wireless
 ones.  But I need something new because the Andrew (can't remember the new
 name) ones are being discontinued.

 Suggestions?
 marlon




 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors

2009-11-19 Thread Marco Coelho
ez240 ez400 ??  What size cable, What connector on the end (N-Male)?
I've got a bunch of ez240 and a few ez400 N Male


Marco

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:20 PM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:

 I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them.
 Anyone out west have these?

 Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10
 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues.

 We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of
 them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless
 forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made
 I've bought from multiple places.   Our temporary site needed to go up in a
 real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them
 have had issues.





 
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Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors

2009-11-19 Thread Josh Luthman
Every one I've bought from tessco and Butch has been good.  Only water
problems were dishes I didn't put up - sealer is your friend.

On 11/19/09, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com wrote:
 ez240 ez400 ??  What size cable, What connector on the end (N-Male)?
 I've got a bunch of ez240 and a few ez400 N Male


 Marco

 On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:20 PM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:

 I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them.
 Anyone out west have these?

 Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10
 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues.

 We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none
 of
 them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless
 forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the
 pre-made
 I've bought from multiple places.   Our temporary site needed to go up in
 a
 real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them
 have had issues.





 
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Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

2009-11-19 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Yeah, the $100 Andrew (comscope???) units!  grin  But they are now 
discontinued.
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas


I second and also third that opinion on the Pac bracket.   S U C K S !

 I use them for backhauls and they aren't spaced too far apart so the loss 
 of
 dB isn't much of an issue with me at the moment.  Is there a grid that 
 isn't
 that much more in cost but a better value for the buck?



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 10:39 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

 In my testing they are often at least 2 or three dB less than the rating.
 They have a crappy bracket.  They are 2x heavier.

 Actually, there isn't anything that I DO like about them.  Been that way 
 for

 years.  I even tried one again a year or so ago.  yuck

 marlon

 - Original Message - 
 From: Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 7:20 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas


 What do you not like about the PacWireless ones?


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:14 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

 Hi All,

 What are you using for grid antennas?  I really don't like the Pac
 Wireless
 ones.  But I need something new because the Andrew (can't remember the 
 new
 name) ones are being discontinued.

 Suggestions?
 marlon




 
 
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Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

2009-11-19 Thread Jerry Richardson
Advanced antenna was bought by http://rfantennadesign.com/

Brackets are pretty thick and don't have near the wobble as the previous 
versions



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of MDK
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 10:16 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

I believe Advanced Antenna bought out the old Equinox company, and now it 
appears they, too, have gone belly-up - or at least the old website is now 
gone (www.advancedantennainc.com).Perhaps now there's yet another 
operating under the old brand, or maybe they changed websites and I can't 
find the new one.

Over the years I've used a number of their antennas, and they were by far, 
the most troublesome I have used.   They were even heavier than the 
pacwireless, and used the same flimsy bracket, with the dipole attached to 
the BRACKET not the dish, and the L shaped bracket would bend in the wind, 
leaving the dish and dipole out of alignment.We actually engineered a 
cable retention system we used on both theirs and PW's large grids to keep 
them pointed properly in high winds.

They finally upgraded to a much heavier gauge bracket, but the design flaw 
remained. Then sometime later, I bought a boxful of 2.4 samples (from 
low to high gain), and found they simply weren't worth messing with.   2 out 
of 5 had bad dipoles - one failed on install, the other failed a few months 
later.The price was very cheap, however.   And, they did appear to have 
roughly the gain they claimed.

I took the dipoles apart and found that the construction was beyond bad. 
They were just crude and poorly constructed and poorly designed in every way 
eXCEPT the dipole printed on a PCB, which was very nicely done.
THAT was my experience with the Equinox branded antennas.

Later, I got quotes from Advanced Antenna, and bought bunch of the j-arm 
universal mounts, which were great.Upon calling back, I got my call 
answered by the same guy who used to be at Equinox...   They raised the 
prices of their antennas above pacwireless, so I never bought a thing from 
them except j arm mounts.

Some of the equinox guys left and started their own company,  and I recall 
they had a new name and new location, but I never bought anything from them, 
since my biggest use of antennas is 5 ghz and theirs cost more than 
Pacwireless.   I no longer recall the name they operated under.

Lately, I've used a bunch of Arcwireless panels with the enclosure on the 
back, and the performance from those has been better than any grids I've 
used.Not to mention that compex finally got their certifications done a 
few years ago and that was the antenna of choice :)

 The 23 db panel gave us better RSSI than a 25 db PW grid for a given 
distance.The 2.4 panel performance is also very good.

We lately used mostly ubiquiti bullets (not hp) for cpe and have gone back 
to the PW grids, because the standalone panel antenna mounts for Arcwireless 
totally suck.They're weak,  clumsy, and even look strange.

THere are two versions of PacWireless 5 ghz grids, there's a wideband and a 
narrow band.The wideband has an attached pigtail, and is cheaper by a 
few bucks.   We've had a number of them that didn't work right, found some 
had the beam off to the side,  or other quirks, like wildly varying RSSI for 
small frequency changes.The narrow band ones have no pigtail, but have 
worked better and more reliably, but we find them VERY hard to waterproof. 
We've found that some of the pigtails built onto the grids have leaked water 
right past the shrink wrap.   A couple of temporary installs we used just 
filled themselves with water, which apparently had to come through the 
sheath of the cable, or through the shrink wrap itself.   Still, we keep 
using them by default, because we haven't found any good alternative.   If 
one of them behaves funny, we just toss it in the van and use it in some 
location that's real short distance and the gain or odd beam isn't an issue. 
Still, the water issue was a problem that I am extremely concerned about, 
though the failure rate has been small and only affects a few recent 
installs.

I got some ignition spec dielectric grease and filled the connector with it 
and it's been fine ever since...  the temp install has now made it through 
several more driving rainstorms with no issue, when it failed on the FIRST 
big rain this summer.







--
From: 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 9:16 PM
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

 Try Advanced Antenna... I've sold a few and have not heard any 
 complaints...
 have not seen them myself though.

 Daniel White
 3-dB Networks
 http://www.3dbnetworks.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 

Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors

2009-11-19 Thread 3-dB Networks
I have some EZ-400 NM on the shelf and a ton of EZ-400-FM-75's

Please hit me offlist if you like.

Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of MDK
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 11:21 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors


I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. 
Anyone out west have these?

Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 
foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues.

We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of 
them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless 
forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made

I've bought from multiple places.   Our temporary site needed to go up in a 
real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them 
have had issues.

 





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Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

2009-11-19 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Those are Andrew antennas :-).

The ONLY difference is the subreflector.
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Larry Yunker leyun...@wispadvantage.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas


I would have to agree with Marlon, my experience with Pacwireless grids was
 less than exceptional.  On the other hand I really like their 
 horizontal
 sectors and horizontal omnis.

 If you are still looking for a replacement for the Andrew 2.4Ghz 24dbi, we
 used to purchase our 24db's from Hyperlink Technologies and had good luck
 with those.

 Here's a link:

 http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=22370cmp=ALSOS


 Regards,
 Larry Yunker




 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 10:39 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

 In my testing they are often at least 2 or three dB less than the rating.
 They have a crappy bracket.  They are 2x heavier.

 Actually, there isn't anything that I DO like about them.  Been that way 
 for

 years.  I even tried one again a year or so ago.  yuck

 marlon

 - Original Message - 
 From: Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 7:20 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas


 What do you not like about the PacWireless ones?


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:14 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

 Hi All,

 What are you using for grid antennas?  I really don't like the Pac
 Wireless
 ones.  But I need something new because the Andrew (can't remember the 
 new
 name) ones are being discontinued.

 Suggestions?
 marlon




 
 
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Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

2009-11-19 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I LOVE the pac wireless j arms.  I won't buy anything else.  No one even 
comes close to the quality of those units.
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas


I believe Advanced Antenna bought out the old Equinox company, and now it
 appears they, too, have gone belly-up - or at least the old website is now
 gone (www.advancedantennainc.com).Perhaps now there's yet another
 operating under the old brand, or maybe they changed websites and I can't
 find the new one.

 Over the years I've used a number of their antennas, and they were by far,
 the most troublesome I have used.   They were even heavier than the
 pacwireless, and used the same flimsy bracket, with the dipole attached to
 the BRACKET not the dish, and the L shaped bracket would bend in the wind,
 leaving the dish and dipole out of alignment.We actually engineered a
 cable retention system we used on both theirs and PW's large grids to keep
 them pointed properly in high winds.

 They finally upgraded to a much heavier gauge bracket, but the design flaw
 remained. Then sometime later, I bought a boxful of 2.4 samples (from
 low to high gain), and found they simply weren't worth messing with.   2 
 out
 of 5 had bad dipoles - one failed on install, the other failed a few 
 months
 later.The price was very cheap, however.   And, they did appear to 
 have
 roughly the gain they claimed.

 I took the dipoles apart and found that the construction was beyond bad.
 They were just crude and poorly constructed and poorly designed in every 
 way
 eXCEPT the dipole printed on a PCB, which was very nicely done.
 THAT was my experience with the Equinox branded antennas.

 Later, I got quotes from Advanced Antenna, and bought bunch of the j-arm
 universal mounts, which were great.Upon calling back, I got my call
 answered by the same guy who used to be at Equinox...   They raised the
 prices of their antennas above pacwireless, so I never bought a thing from
 them except j arm mounts.

 Some of the equinox guys left and started their own company,  and I recall
 they had a new name and new location, but I never bought anything from 
 them,
 since my biggest use of antennas is 5 ghz and theirs cost more than
 Pacwireless.   I no longer recall the name they operated under.

 Lately, I've used a bunch of Arcwireless panels with the enclosure on the
 back, and the performance from those has been better than any grids I've
 used.Not to mention that compex finally got their certifications done 
 a
 few years ago and that was the antenna of choice :)

 The 23 db panel gave us better RSSI than a 25 db PW grid for a given
 distance.The 2.4 panel performance is also very good.

 We lately used mostly ubiquiti bullets (not hp) for cpe and have gone back
 to the PW grids, because the standalone panel antenna mounts for 
 Arcwireless
 totally suck.They're weak,  clumsy, and even look strange.

 THere are two versions of PacWireless 5 ghz grids, there's a wideband and 
 a
 narrow band.The wideband has an attached pigtail, and is cheaper by a
 few bucks.   We've had a number of them that didn't work right, found some
 had the beam off to the side,  or other quirks, like wildly varying RSSI 
 for
 small frequency changes.The narrow band ones have no pigtail, but have
 worked better and more reliably, but we find them VERY hard to waterproof.
 We've found that some of the pigtails built onto the grids have leaked 
 water
 right past the shrink wrap.   A couple of temporary installs we used just
 filled themselves with water, which apparently had to come through the
 sheath of the cable, or through the shrink wrap itself.   Still, we keep
 using them by default, because we haven't found any good alternative.   If
 one of them behaves funny, we just toss it in the van and use it in some
 location that's real short distance and the gain or odd beam isn't an 
 issue.
 Still, the water issue was a problem that I am extremely concerned about,
 though the failure rate has been small and only affects a few recent
 installs.

 I got some ignition spec dielectric grease and filled the connector with 
 it
 and it's been fine ever since...  the temp install has now made it through
 several more driving rainstorms with no issue, when it failed on the FIRST
 big rain this summer.







 --
 From: 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net
 Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 9:16 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

 Try Advanced Antenna... I've sold a few and have not heard any
 complaints...
 have not seen them myself though.

 Daniel White
 3-dB Networks
 http://www.3dbnetworks.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf 

Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors

2009-11-19 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I get mine from Hutton.
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 10:20 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors



 I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them.
 Anyone out west have these?

 Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10
 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues.

 We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none 
 of
 them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless
 forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the 
 pre-made
 I've bought from multiple places.   Our temporary site needed to go up in 
 a
 real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them
 have had issues.





 
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Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

2009-11-19 Thread eje
Rfantennadesign.com 

/Eje
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-Original Message-
From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:15:32 
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas

I believe Advanced Antenna bought out the old Equinox company, and now it 
appears they, too, have gone belly-up - or at least the old website is now 
gone (www.advancedantennainc.com).Perhaps now there's yet another 
operating under the old brand, or maybe they changed websites and I can't 
find the new one.

Over the years I've used a number of their antennas, and they were by far, 
the most troublesome I have used.   They were even heavier than the 
pacwireless, and used the same flimsy bracket, with the dipole attached to 
the BRACKET not the dish, and the L shaped bracket would bend in the wind, 
leaving the dish and dipole out of alignment.We actually engineered a 
cable retention system we used on both theirs and PW's large grids to keep 
them pointed properly in high winds.

They finally upgraded to a much heavier gauge bracket, but the design flaw 
remained. Then sometime later, I bought a boxful of 2.4 samples (from 
low to high gain), and found they simply weren't worth messing with.   2 out 
of 5 had bad dipoles - one failed on install, the other failed a few months 
later.The price was very cheap, however.   And, they did appear to have 
roughly the gain they claimed.

I took the dipoles apart and found that the construction was beyond bad. 
They were just crude and poorly constructed and poorly designed in every way 
eXCEPT the dipole printed on a PCB, which was very nicely done.
THAT was my experience with the Equinox branded antennas.

Later, I got quotes from Advanced Antenna, and bought bunch of the j-arm 
universal mounts, which were great.Upon calling back, I got my call 
answered by the same guy who used to be at Equinox...   They raised the 
prices of their antennas above pacwireless, so I never bought a thing from 
them except j arm mounts.

Some of the equinox guys left and started their own company,  and I recall 
they had a new name and new location, but I never bought anything from them, 
since my biggest use of antennas is 5 ghz and theirs cost more than 
Pacwireless.   I no longer recall the name they operated under.

Lately, I've used a bunch of Arcwireless panels with the enclosure on the 
back, and the performance from those has been better than any grids I've 
used.Not to mention that compex finally got their certifications done a 
few years ago and that was the antenna of choice :)

 The 23 db panel gave us better RSSI than a 25 db PW grid for a given 
distance.The 2.4 panel performance is also very good.

We lately used mostly ubiquiti bullets (not hp) for cpe and have gone back 
to the PW grids, because the standalone panel antenna mounts for Arcwireless 
totally suck.They're weak,  clumsy, and even look strange.

THere are two versions of PacWireless 5 ghz grids, there's a wideband and a 
narrow band.The wideband has an attached pigtail, and is cheaper by a 
few bucks.   We've had a number of them that didn't work right, found some 
had the beam off to the side,  or other quirks, like wildly varying RSSI for 
small frequency changes.The narrow band ones have no pigtail, but have 
worked better and more reliably, but we find them VERY hard to waterproof. 
We've found that some of the pigtails built onto the grids have leaked water 
right past the shrink wrap.   A couple of temporary installs we used just 
filled themselves with water, which apparently had to come through the 
sheath of the cable, or through the shrink wrap itself.   Still, we keep 
using them by default, because we haven't found any good alternative.   If 
one of them behaves funny, we just toss it in the van and use it in some 
location that's real short distance and the gain or odd beam isn't an issue. 
Still, the water issue was a problem that I am extremely concerned about, 
though the failure rate has been small and only affects a few recent 
installs.

I got some ignition spec dielectric grease and filled the connector with it 
and it's been fine ever since...  the temp install has now made it through 
several more driving rainstorms with no issue, when it failed on the FIRST 
big rain this summer.







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 Try Advanced Antenna... I've sold a few and have not heard any 
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 have not seen them myself though.

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[WISPA] Need a new AP

2009-11-19 Thread pat
I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does 
802.11b. 

1)  I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.

2)  Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP and 
WPA simultaneously.  (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't upgraded)

3)  Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200.

You input is helpful.

TIA,

Pat




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Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

2009-11-19 Thread Jayson Baker
UBNT Bullet M2?

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat p...@inlandnet.com wrote:

 I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does
 802.11b.

 1)  I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.

 2)  Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP and
 WPA simultaneously.  (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't upgraded)

 3)  Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200.

 You input is helpful.

 TIA,

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Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

2009-11-19 Thread Robert West
I vote for that as well.  Cheap and easy.



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UBNT Bullet M2?

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat p...@inlandnet.com wrote:

 I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does
 802.11b.

 1)  I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.

 2)  Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP and
 WPA simultaneously.  (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't upgraded)

 3)  Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200.

 You input is helpful.

 TIA,

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Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

2009-11-19 Thread Josh Luthman
WEP and WPA at the same time?  Haven't seen that anywhere myself.

Who cares about the waste of effort protocol though?

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On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.comwrote:

 UBNT Bullet M2?

 On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat p...@inlandnet.com wrote:

  I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does
  802.11b.
 
  1)  I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.
 
  2)  Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP and
  WPA simultaneously.  (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't upgraded)
 
  3)  Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200.
 
  You input is helpful.
 
  TIA,
 
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Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

2009-11-19 Thread pat
Bullet M2's won't do WEP until the release of firmware version 5.1 which 
has been in just a couple of weeks for at least the last two months.



Jayson Baker wrote:
 UBNT Bullet M2?

 On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat p...@inlandnet.com wrote:

   
 I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does
 802.11b.

 1)  I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.

 2)  Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP and
 WPA simultaneously.  (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't upgraded)

 3)  Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200.

 You input is helpful.

 TIA,

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Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

2009-11-19 Thread Jayson Baker
In that case, use a MikroTik RB411R.
Integrated radio, and MT can do various encryptions you need.

Sorry, I overlooked that part of the request.

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:16 PM, pat p...@inlandnet.com wrote:

 Bullet M2's won't do WEP until the release of firmware version 5.1 which
 has been in just a couple of weeks for at least the last two months.



 Jayson Baker wrote:
  UBNT Bullet M2?
 
  On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat p...@inlandnet.com wrote:
 
 
  I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does
  802.11b.
 
  1)  I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.
 
  2)  Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP and
  WPA simultaneously.  (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't upgraded)
 
  3)  Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200.
 
  You input is helpful.
 
  TIA,
 
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Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

2009-11-19 Thread AJ
Hahaha Gmail ads came up with this firmware as I was reading this thread:

http://www.fireserve.com/products/ubiquiti/bullet-m-firmware.php

chop
*Adds 802.11-compatible encryption modes
*The stock Ubiquiti firmware only supports WPA-AES encryption.  Our firmware
adds support for 64-bit and 128-bit WEP, WPA-TKIP and WPA2-TKIP.
/chop


Pretty spendy for just a single unit...

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.comwrote:

 In that case, use a MikroTik RB411R.
 Integrated radio, and MT can do various encryptions you need.

 Sorry, I overlooked that part of the request.

 On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:16 PM, pat p...@inlandnet.com wrote:

  Bullet M2's won't do WEP until the release of firmware version 5.1 which
  has been in just a couple of weeks for at least the last two months.
 
 
 
  Jayson Baker wrote:
   UBNT Bullet M2?
  
   On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat p...@inlandnet.com wrote:
  
  
   I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does
   802.11b.
  
   1)  I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.
  
   2)  Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP
 and
   WPA simultaneously.  (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't upgraded)
  
   3)  Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200.
  
   You input is helpful.
  
   TIA,
  
   Pat
  
  
  
  
  
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

2009-11-19 Thread pat
 I have 3 AP's with Cisco Aironet 1250's that handle both WEP and WPA at 
the same time, and do it very well.


Josh Luthman wrote:
 WEP and WPA at the same time?  Haven't seen that anywhere myself.

 Who cares about the waste of effort protocol though?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
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 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources.
 --- Albert Einstein


 On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.comwrote:

   
 UBNT Bullet M2?

 On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat p...@inlandnet.com wrote:

 
 I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does
 802.11b.

 1)  I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.

 2)  Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP and
 WPA simultaneously.  (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't upgraded)

 3)  Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200.

 You input is helpful.

 TIA,

 Pat





   
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

2009-11-19 Thread George Morris
Mike put up a bit of info about what's on the way in 5.1 on DSLR. Appears we
are getting close to seeing a beta.

Features that are in 5.1:

- DynamicACK is rewritten with many improvements.

- Full 802.11abg support

- Full Encryption support (WEP, WPA/WPA2 AES/TKIP ect)

- ACK Removal for Point to Point links

- AutoRate selection Algorithm is rewritten.

- New Web server for the software

and a lot more.

The Beta should be on the forum tommorow and the best part is the software
will be free.

Mike

George 

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Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 5:21 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

Hahaha Gmail ads came up with this firmware as I was reading this thread:

http://www.fireserve.com/products/ubiquiti/bullet-m-firmware.php

chop
*Adds 802.11-compatible encryption modes
*The stock Ubiquiti firmware only supports WPA-AES encryption.  Our firmware
adds support for 64-bit and 128-bit WEP, WPA-TKIP and WPA2-TKIP.
/chop


Pretty spendy for just a single unit...

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.comwrote:

 In that case, use a MikroTik RB411R.
 Integrated radio, and MT can do various encryptions you need.

 Sorry, I overlooked that part of the request.

 On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:16 PM, pat p...@inlandnet.com wrote:

  Bullet M2's won't do WEP until the release of firmware version 5.1 which
  has been in just a couple of weeks for at least the last two months.
 
 
 
  Jayson Baker wrote:
   UBNT Bullet M2?
  
   On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat p...@inlandnet.com wrote:
  
  
   I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does
   802.11b.
  
   1)  I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.
  
   2)  Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP
 and
   WPA simultaneously.  (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't upgraded)
  
   3)  Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200.
  
   You input is helpful.
  
   TIA,
  
   Pat
  
  
  
  
  
 



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Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

2009-11-19 Thread pat
Thanks George.  I follow DSLR but missed that one. 


George Morris wrote:
 Mike put up a bit of info about what's on the way in 5.1 on DSLR. Appears we
 are getting close to seeing a beta.

 Features that are in 5.1:

 - DynamicACK is rewritten with many improvements.

 - Full 802.11abg support

 - Full Encryption support (WEP, WPA/WPA2 AES/TKIP ect)

 - ACK Removal for Point to Point links

 - AutoRate selection Algorithm is rewritten.

 - New Web server for the software

 and a lot more.

 The Beta should be on the forum tommorow and the best part is the software
 will be free.

 Mike

 George 

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of AJ
 Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 5:21 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

 Hahaha Gmail ads came up with this firmware as I was reading this thread:

 http://www.fireserve.com/products/ubiquiti/bullet-m-firmware.php

 chop
 *Adds 802.11-compatible encryption modes
 *The stock Ubiquiti firmware only supports WPA-AES encryption.  Our firmware
 adds support for 64-bit and 128-bit WEP, WPA-TKIP and WPA2-TKIP.
 /chop


 Pretty spendy for just a single unit...

 On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.comwrote:

   
 In that case, use a MikroTik RB411R.
 Integrated radio, and MT can do various encryptions you need.

 Sorry, I overlooked that part of the request.

 On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:16 PM, pat p...@inlandnet.com wrote:

 
 Bullet M2's won't do WEP until the release of firmware version 5.1 which
 has been in just a couple of weeks for at least the last two months.



 Jayson Baker wrote:
   
 UBNT Bullet M2?

 On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat p...@inlandnet.com wrote:


 
 I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does
 802.11b.

 1)  I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.

 2)  Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP
   
 and
 
 WPA simultaneously.  (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't upgraded)

 3)  Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200.

 You input is helpful.

 TIA,

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Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

2009-11-19 Thread Michael Baird
It was promised at the end of November, beta should be out this week.

Regards
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 Bullet M2's won't do WEP until the release of firmware version 5.1 which 
 has been in just a couple of weeks for at least the last two months.



 Jayson Baker wrote:
   
 UBNT Bullet M2?

 On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat p...@inlandnet.com wrote:

   
 
 I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does
 802.11b.

 1)  I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.

 2)  Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP and
 WPA simultaneously.  (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't upgraded)

 3)  Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200.

 You input is helpful.

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Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

2009-11-19 Thread Robert West
Ah  I didn't catch the WEP part.  Sucks you can't get away from that.



-Original Message-
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Behalf Of pat
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 5:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

Bullet M2's won't do WEP until the release of firmware version 5.1 which 
has been in just a couple of weeks for at least the last two months.



Jayson Baker wrote:
 UBNT Bullet M2?

 On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat p...@inlandnet.com wrote:

   
 I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does
 802.11b.

 1)  I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.

 2)  Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP and
 WPA simultaneously.  (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't upgraded)

 3)  Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200.

 You input is helpful.

 TIA,

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Re: [WISPA] Intermittant connectivity

2009-11-19 Thread Mark McElvy
Ok, I went out the problem customer and switched them to bridged mode
and set their router to do PPPoe and ShaZam, all is good. Why is this
only happening with some of the CPQ's and not all? 

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Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

2009-11-19 Thread Dennis Burgess
MT

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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 4:13 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

WEP and WPA at the same time?  Haven't seen that anywhere myself.

Who cares about the waste of effort protocol though?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

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--- Albert Einstein


On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Jayson Baker
jay...@spectrasurf.comwrote:

 UBNT Bullet M2?

 On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat p...@inlandnet.com wrote:

  I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does
  802.11b.
 
  1)  I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.
 
  2)  Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP
and
  WPA simultaneously.  (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't
upgraded)
 
  3)  Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200.
 
  You input is helpful.
 
  TIA,
 
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Re: [WISPA] Intermittant connectivity

2009-11-19 Thread Robert West
They hate you.  It's true.  I have units that hate me as well.  Not much I
can do about it except try to understand their issues but it still doesn't
do me any good.

In the end, a hammer works.



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Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 5:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Intermittant connectivity

Ok, I went out the problem customer and switched them to bridged mode
and set their router to do PPPoe and ShaZam, all is good. Why is this
only happening with some of the CPQ's and not all? 

Thanks Marlon.

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Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

2009-11-19 Thread Josh Luthman
Wow do I feel dumb.  I am doing this myself at home.

Primary wireless interface - WEP
Virtual AP on said interface - WPA

I do different SSIDs, not sure how clients would react if they were the
same.

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On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.netwrote:

 MT

 ---
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 WISPA Board Member - wispa.org
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 Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net
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 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 4:13 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

 WEP and WPA at the same time?  Haven't seen that anywhere myself.

 Who cares about the waste of effort protocol though?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources.
 --- Albert Einstein


 On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Jayson Baker
 jay...@spectrasurf.comwrote:

  UBNT Bullet M2?
 
  On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat p...@inlandnet.com wrote:
 
   I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does
   802.11b.
  
   1)  I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.
  
   2)  Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP
 and
   WPA simultaneously.  (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't
 upgraded)
  
   3)  Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200.
  
   You input is helpful.
  
   TIA,
  
   Pat
  
  
  
  
  
 
 
 
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[WISPA] Low gain 2.4GHz vertical omni recommendation for use with a bullet M

2009-11-19 Thread os10rules
I'd like to know what folks recommend for a plain jane low gain  2.4GHz omni. 
No downtilt. Gain around 7-13 dbi but something solid for outdoor use. This is 
to use with a Bullet2HP M.

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Re: [WISPA] Low gain 2.4GHz vertical omni recommendation for use with a bullet M

2009-11-19 Thread Josh Luthman
I've several 9dbi Pac ones out there.  I like how the bottom of the antenna
has a good 3' metal piece to put two hose clamps.  Weather has never
effected any one of my omnis - my install or anyone else - in 2 or 3 years.

CTI had a special on them recently, just in time for a campgrounds hotspot.
May want to see if they're still on sale.

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On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:49 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'd like to know what folks recommend for a plain jane low gain  2.4GHz
 omni. No downtilt. Gain around 7-13 dbi but something solid for outdoor use.
 This is to use with a Bullet2HP M.

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Re: [WISPA] Intermittant connectivity

2009-11-19 Thread Ryan Spott
netstat -a might show you 4billion connections?

ryan

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote:
 Ok, I went out the problem customer and switched them to bridged mode
 and set their router to do PPPoe and ShaZam, all is good. Why is this
 only happening with some of the CPQ's and not all?

 Thanks Marlon.

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Re: [WISPA] Low gain 2.4GHz vertical omni recommendation for use with a bullet M

2009-11-19 Thread os10rules
Thanks! I just bought one a week ago to give it a try but it hasn't arrived yet.

Greg

On Nov 19, 2009, at 5:52 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 I've several 9dbi Pac ones out there.  I like how the bottom of the antenna
 has a good 3' metal piece to put two hose clamps.  Weather has never
 effected any one of my omnis - my install or anyone else - in 2 or 3 years.
 
 CTI had a special on them recently, just in time for a campgrounds hotspot.
 May want to see if they're still on sale.
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources.
 --- Albert Einstein
 
 
 On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:49 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'd like to know what folks recommend for a plain jane low gain  2.4GHz
 omni. No downtilt. Gain around 7-13 dbi but something solid for outdoor use.
 This is to use with a Bullet2HP M.
 
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Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors

2009-11-19 Thread Scott Reed
Tessco is where I get them.
I have them make up cables and have not had any problems with them

MDK wrote:
 I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. 
 Anyone out west have these?

 Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 
 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues.

 We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of 
 them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless 
 forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made 
 I've bought from multiple places.   Our temporary site needed to go up in a 
 real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them 
 have had issues.

  



 
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Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

2009-11-19 Thread Mike
Most Atheros radios I've seen can have an AP and a virtual AP.  I 
have one set up in my office.  One SSID leads to WEP encryption and 
different router rules.  The other is WPA, virtual, and privileged; 
for full network access.  Some of our devices don't do wpa nicely.

Mike

At 04:12 PM 11/19/2009, you wrote:
WEP and WPA at the same time?  Haven't seen that anywhere myself.

Who cares about the waste of effort protocol though?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Troy, OH 45373

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--- Albert Einstein


On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.comwrote:

  UBNT Bullet M2?
 
  On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat p...@inlandnet.com wrote:
 
   I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does
   802.11b.
  
   1)  I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.
  
   2)  Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP and
   WPA simultaneously.  (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't upgraded)
  
   3)  Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200.
  
   You input is helpful.
  
   TIA,
  
   Pat
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
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Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors

2009-11-19 Thread lakeland
No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself.  You 
need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you 
are lucky. Plain and simple.

Bob
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors


I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. 
Anyone out west have these?

Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 
foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues.

We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of 
them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless 
forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made 
I've bought from multiple places.   Our temporary site needed to go up in a 
real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them 
have had issues.

 




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Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors

2009-11-19 Thread AJ
CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :)

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:

 No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself.
  You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting
 wet you are lucky. Plain and simple.

 Bob
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
 From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us
 Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors


  I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them.
 Anyone out west have these?

 Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10
 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues.

 We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of
 them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless
 forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the
 pre-made
 I've bought from multiple places.   Our temporary site needed to go up in a
 real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them
 have had issues.






 
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Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors

2009-11-19 Thread os10rules
Coax-seal
On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote:

 CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :)
 
 On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:
 
 No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself.
 You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting
 wet you are lucky. Plain and simple.
 
 Bob
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
 
 -Original Message-
 From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us
 Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
 
 
 I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them.
 Anyone out west have these?
 
 Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10
 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues.
 
 We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of
 them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless
 forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the
 pre-made
 I've bought from multiple places.   Our temporary site needed to go up in a
 real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them
 have had issues.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

2009-11-19 Thread Josh Luthman
What devices don't do WPA in today's world?

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On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote:

 Most Atheros radios I've seen can have an AP and a virtual AP.  I
 have one set up in my office.  One SSID leads to WEP encryption and
 different router rules.  The other is WPA, virtual, and privileged;
 for full network access.  Some of our devices don't do wpa nicely.

 Mike

 At 04:12 PM 11/19/2009, you wrote:
 WEP and WPA at the same time?  Haven't seen that anywhere myself.
 
 Who cares about the waste of effort protocol though?
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources.
 --- Albert Einstein
 
 
 On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com
 wrote:
 
   UBNT Bullet M2?
  
   On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat p...@inlandnet.com wrote:
  
I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does
802.11b.
   
1)  I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.
   
2)  Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP
 and
WPA simultaneously.  (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't upgraded)
   
3)  Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200.
   
You input is helpful.
   
TIA,
   
Pat
   
   
   
   
   
  
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

2009-11-19 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
Old ones.
. . . J o n a t h a n 

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Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 5:58 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

What devices don't do WPA in today's world?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources.
--- Albert Einstein


On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote:

 Most Atheros radios I've seen can have an AP and a virtual AP.  I 
 have one set up in my office.  One SSID leads to WEP encryption and 
 different router rules.  The other is WPA, virtual, and privileged; 
 for full network access.  Some of our devices don't do wpa nicely.

 Mike

 At 04:12 PM 11/19/2009, you wrote:
 WEP and WPA at the same time?  Haven't seen that anywhere myself.
 
 Who cares about the waste of effort protocol though?
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources.
 --- Albert Einstein
 
 
 On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com
 wrote:
 
   UBNT Bullet M2?
  
   On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat p...@inlandnet.com wrote:
  
I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only 
does 802.11b.
   
1)  I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.
   
2)  Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of 
WEP
 and
WPA simultaneously.  (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't 
upgraded)
   
3)  Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200.
   
You input is helpful.
   
TIA,
   
Pat
   
   
   
   
   
  
 
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Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

2009-11-19 Thread Mike
Some old Palm devices.  Recently a Dell pre 2003 that you couldn't 
even update.  No new stuff, but there are still a lot of wep only 
devices out there.

At 05:58 PM 11/19/2009, you wrote:
What devices don't do WPA in today's world?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources.
--- Albert Einstein


On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote:

  Most Atheros radios I've seen can have an AP and a virtual AP.  I
  have one set up in my office.  One SSID leads to WEP encryption and
  different router rules.  The other is WPA, virtual, and privileged;
  for full network access.  Some of our devices don't do wpa nicely.
 
  Mike
 
  At 04:12 PM 11/19/2009, you wrote:
  WEP and WPA at the same time?  Haven't seen that anywhere myself.
  
  Who cares about the waste of effort protocol though?
  
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
  
  The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources.
  --- Albert Einstein
  
  
  On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com
  wrote:
  
UBNT Bullet M2?
   
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat p...@inlandnet.com wrote:
   
 I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does
 802.11b.

 1)  I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.

 2)  Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP
  and
 WPA simultaneously.  (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't upgraded)

 3)  Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200.

 You input is helpful.

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[WISPA] MikroTik setup

2009-11-19 Thread Jerry Richardson
Looking at using MT in a small public WiFi setup. The topology is going to be a 
5.7GHz WDS PMP from the top of a 10-story building looking down onto the 
streets with 2.4 client access at street level. Initially this will not be a 
mesh but I may implement MT's MME later.

My thought is to use a MT411AR + R52 in a 5GHz Rootenna with an N connector 
installed in the bottom of the enclosure for an Omni.

Having never worked with these specific parts I want to make sure there is room 
in the bottom of the enclosure for a bulkhead mount N connector.

Thoughts? Comments?

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Re: [WISPA] MikroTik setup

2009-11-19 Thread Dennis Burgess
Should be if not on the back.  Shoot www.jeffcosoho.com a call or e-mail
me off list and I can get that assembled, tested, built and upgraded for
you so all you have to do is plug in and program! 

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Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:15 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] MikroTik setup

Looking at using MT in a small public WiFi setup. The topology is going
to be a 5.7GHz WDS PMP from the top of a 10-story building looking down
onto the streets with 2.4 client access at street level. Initially this
will not be a mesh but I may implement MT's MME later.

My thought is to use a MT411AR + R52 in a 5GHz Rootenna with an N
connector installed in the bottom of the enclosure for an Omni.

Having never worked with these specific parts I want to make sure there
is room in the bottom of the enclosure for a bulkhead mount N connector.

Thoughts? Comments?

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Re: [WISPA] MikroTik setup

2009-11-19 Thread Butch Evans
On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 19:15 -0500, Jerry Richardson wrote: 
 My thought is to use a MT411AR + R52 in a 5GHz Rootenna with an N connector 
 installed in the bottom of the enclosure for an Omni.
 
 Having never worked with these specific parts I want to make sure there is 
 room in the bottom of the enclosure for a bulkhead mount N connector.

This should work just fine, Jerry.  I've built several units just like
that and there is easily enough room for what you want.

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Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors

2009-11-19 Thread RickG
Yes -  hate the mess but seals the best!

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:

 Coax-seal
 On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote:

  CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :)
 
  On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:
 
  No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by
 itself.
  You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not
 getting
  wet you are lucky. Plain and simple.
 
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  Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52
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  Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
 
 
  I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry
 them.
  Anyone out west have these?
 
  Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built
 10
  foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues.
 
  We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none
 of
  them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain
 nameless
  forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the
  pre-made
  I've bought from multiple places.   Our temporary site needed to go up
 in a
  real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of
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Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

2009-11-19 Thread RickG
Nice! Let us know how you like it.

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:21 PM, AJ aj.grant...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hahaha Gmail ads came up with this firmware as I was reading this thread:

 http://www.fireserve.com/products/ubiquiti/bullet-m-firmware.php

 chop
 *Adds 802.11-compatible encryption modes
 *The stock Ubiquiti firmware only supports WPA-AES encryption.  Our
 firmware
 adds support for 64-bit and 128-bit WEP, WPA-TKIP and WPA2-TKIP.
 /chop


 Pretty spendy for just a single unit...

 On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com
 wrote:

  In that case, use a MikroTik RB411R.
  Integrated radio, and MT can do various encryptions you need.
 
  Sorry, I overlooked that part of the request.
 
  On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:16 PM, pat p...@inlandnet.com wrote:
 
   Bullet M2's won't do WEP until the release of firmware version 5.1
 which
   has been in just a couple of weeks for at least the last two months.
  
  
  
   Jayson Baker wrote:
UBNT Bullet M2?
   
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat p...@inlandnet.com wrote:
   
   
I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does
802.11b.
   
1)  I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.
   
2)  Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP
  and
WPA simultaneously.  (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't
 upgraded)
   
3)  Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200.
   
You input is helpful.
   
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Re: [WISPA] MikroTik setup

2009-11-19 Thread Robert West
You can put all that and a couple of kittens in there.  Those Rootennas
rock, man!

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On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 19:15 -0500, Jerry Richardson wrote: 
 My thought is to use a MT411AR + R52 in a 5GHz Rootenna with an N
connector 
 installed in the bottom of the enclosure for an Omni.
 
 Having never worked with these specific parts I want to make sure there is

 room in the bottom of the enclosure for a bulkhead mount N connector.

This should work just fine, Jerry.  I've built several units just like
that and there is easily enough room for what you want.

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Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors

2009-11-19 Thread AJ
I used to use Coax-seal on everything... Finally discovered CANUSA and won't
ever turn back... Great seal and just takes a decent razor blade to remove
with no residue... Just gotta remember to put it on the coax line *before*
you tighten the fitting... Doh lol.

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 7:15 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes -  hate the mess but seals the best!

 On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:

  Coax-seal
  On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote:
 
   CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :)
  
   On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:
  
   No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by
  itself.
   You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not
  getting
   wet you are lucky. Plain and simple.
  
   Bob
   Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
  
   -Original Message-
   From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us
   Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52
   To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
   Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
  
  
   I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry
  them.
   Anyone out west have these?
  
   Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built
  10
   foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues.
  
   We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and
 none
  of
   them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain
  nameless
   forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the
   pre-made
   I've bought from multiple places.   Our temporary site needed to go up
  in a
   real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of
  them
   have had issues.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5

2009-11-19 Thread John Thomas
Also HP had 100 VG AnyLAN that used 4 wires.

John


Jerry Richardson wrote:
 There was a technology that used all 4 pairs. It was a proprietary solution 
 that put Video on one set and data on the other. Broadxxx or something like 
 that.

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 6:01 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5

 Don't think so, pretty confident gigabit is 2 pair still.  Could be wrong...

 On 11/18/09, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
   
 I believe 100 megs requires 2 pair and Gig requires all 4 pair in addition
 to certain quality measures.


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 Intelligent Computing Solutions
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 From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
 Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:58 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5

 
 Phone line is twisted pair and normally 2 pair.  Transmit and receive.
 Can
 easily do 100mbps.  You could even get it to do gigabit with not much
 effort.  No PoE though, no pair for that. HOWEVER, the problems come from
 the nasty connections everyone including the phone company has made.  Most
 phone line isn't clean like a network cable you would run.  Who knows
 where the hell the splices and rodent chewed ends are at and if they stick
 with a common wiring scheme throughout the structure.  If it was the best
 option, you could at least test and give up quickly if it fell on its
 face.

 There used to be some home networking nics that used the phone lines in
 the
 home and you could also use the phones with the things connected.  That
 was
 in the late 1990's, early 2000.  Some Gateway desktops came with them.  I
 never saw them used though.

 Bob-




 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:02 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5

 That would be great! But, I cant find anything on the net except
 references
 to the standard being 10Mbps:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_3_cable
 Any examples?

 On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Kevin Neal ke...@safelink.net wrote:

   
 With the right equipment I've heard of gigabit over rusted old barbwire!

 -Kevin


 On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 7:32 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 100Mbps on cat 3? Really?

 On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Forbes Mercy
 forbes.me...@wabroadband.comwrote:

   
 We currently run a Cat5 into the wall then put a jack into the house.
 My question is since you can get 100MB through a Cat3 which is the
 same
 as a phone line why can't we run the connection into their phone line?
 Most of our customers have cell phone only and their internal wiring
 is
 virtually unused.

 Thanks,
 Forbes




 
 
 
   
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Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP

2009-11-19 Thread John Thomas
Cisco 1200 series will plug right in

John

AJ wrote:
 Hahaha Gmail ads came up with this firmware as I was reading this thread:

 http://www.fireserve.com/products/ubiquiti/bullet-m-firmware.php

 chop
 *Adds 802.11-compatible encryption modes
 *The stock Ubiquiti firmware only supports WPA-AES encryption.  Our firmware
 adds support for 64-bit and 128-bit WEP, WPA-TKIP and WPA2-TKIP.
 /chop


 Pretty spendy for just a single unit...

 On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.comwrote:

   
 In that case, use a MikroTik RB411R.
 Integrated radio, and MT can do various encryptions you need.

 Sorry, I overlooked that part of the request.

 On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:16 PM, pat p...@inlandnet.com wrote:

 
 Bullet M2's won't do WEP until the release of firmware version 5.1 which
 has been in just a couple of weeks for at least the last two months.



 Jayson Baker wrote:
   
 UBNT Bullet M2?

 On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat p...@inlandnet.com wrote:


 
 I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does
 802.11b.

 1)  I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus.

 2)  Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP
   
 and
 
 WPA simultaneously.  (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't upgraded)

 3)  Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200.

 You input is helpful.

 TIA,

 Pat





   
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] MikroTik setup

2009-11-19 Thread Butch Evans
On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 22:48 -0500, Robert West wrote: 
 You can put all that and a couple of kittens in there.  Those Rootennas
 rock, man!

LOL.  How long do the kittys have to stay before they're ready to eat?
MM.  Mikrowave kittens.  :-)

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Re: [WISPA] MikroTik setup

2009-11-19 Thread Robert West
The manual says 2 days.  But it depends on altitude and ambient temperature.


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Subject: Re: [WISPA] MikroTik setup

On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 22:48 -0500, Robert West wrote: 
 You can put all that and a couple of kittens in there.  Those Rootennas
 rock, man!

LOL.  How long do the kittys have to stay before they're ready to eat?
MM.  Mikrowave kittens.  :-)

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