[WISPA] Recommend Managed Switch

2014-02-05 Thread Chris Fabien
I am trying to set up a VLAN trunk between our office and tower over a
60ghz gigabit link. I want to have all the tower APs and backhauls plugged
in to a port at the tower and have them show up on a matching port in the
office, one VLAN per port.

I tried to do this with one of the new Mikrotik CRS but the configuration
is incredibly clunky and I can't get it working. They also seem to be
missing a few key features like STP.

I need a switch that has:
tag/untag traffic on access ports
run STP/RSTP on two trunk ports for a primary and backup wireless link
1 or preferably more SFP ports (gigabit link is fiber interface)
min 16 copper gige ports
outdoor temperature rated
prefer runs on DC power

Any suggestions? I've not done much with managed switches and VLANs before,
so no idea what is out there.

Thanks
Chris Fabien
LakeNet LLC
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Re: [WISPA] Recommend Managed Switch

2014-02-05 Thread Josh Reynolds
Not sure if it's outdoor temp rated, but for the price of an HP 
1810-24G v2 (around $250), you really can't go wrong. Very good feature 
sets, excellent prices.


http://h17007.www1.hp.com/us/en/networking/products/switches/HP_1810_Switch_Series/index.aspx#tab=TAB2

Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS
:: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer ::

On 02/05/2014 10:49 AM, Chris Fabien wrote:
I am trying to set up a VLAN trunk between our office and tower over a 
60ghz gigabit link. I want to have all the tower APs and backhauls 
plugged in to a port at the tower and have them show up on a matching 
port in the office, one VLAN per port.


I tried to do this with one of the new Mikrotik CRS but the 
configuration is incredibly clunky and I can't get it working. They 
also seem to be missing a few key features like STP.


I need a switch that has:
tag/untag traffic on access ports
run STP/RSTP on two trunk ports for a primary and backup wireless link
1 or preferably more SFP ports (gigabit link is fiber interface)
min 16 copper gige ports
outdoor temperature rated
prefer runs on DC power

Any suggestions? I've not done much with managed switches and VLANs 
before, so no idea what is out there.


Thanks
Chris Fabien
LakeNet LLC


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Re: [WISPA] Recommend Managed Switch

2014-02-05 Thread Bryce Duchcherer
TP-Link has some decent switches that aren't very expensive
They will do what you want.


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Not sure if it's outdoor temp rated, but for the price of an HP 1810-24G v2 
(around $250), you really can't go wrong. Very good feature sets, excellent 
prices.

http://h17007.www1.hp.com/us/en/networking/products/switches/HP_1810_Switch_Series/index.aspx#tab=TAB2
Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS
:: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer ::
On 02/05/2014 10:49 AM, Chris Fabien wrote:
I am trying to set up a VLAN trunk between our office and tower over a 60ghz 
gigabit link. I want to have all the tower APs and backhauls plugged in to a 
port at the tower and have them show up on a matching port in the office, one 
VLAN per port.

I tried to do this with one of the new Mikrotik CRS but the configuration is 
incredibly clunky and I can't get it working. They also seem to be missing a 
few key features like STP.

I need a switch that has:
tag/untag traffic on access ports
run STP/RSTP on two trunk ports for a primary and backup wireless link
1 or preferably more SFP ports (gigabit link is fiber interface)
min 16 copper gige ports
outdoor temperature rated
prefer runs on DC power

Any suggestions? I've not done much with managed switches and VLANs before, so 
no idea what is out there.

Thanks
Chris Fabien
LakeNet LLC




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Re: [WISPA] Recommend Managed Switch

2014-02-05 Thread Harold Bledsoe
Here's another option too:

http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/SMC-EZ-Switch-SMCGS26C-Smart-switch-26-ports-managed-desktop-rack/3191553.aspx

-Hal


On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote:

  Not sure if it's outdoor temp rated, but for the price of an HP
 1810-24G v2 (around $250), you really can't go wrong. Very good feature
 sets, excellent prices.


 http://h17007.www1.hp.com/us/en/networking/products/switches/HP_1810_Switch_Series/index.aspx#tab=TAB2

 Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS
 :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer ::

  On 02/05/2014 10:49 AM, Chris Fabien wrote:

 I am trying to set up a VLAN trunk between our office and tower over a
 60ghz gigabit link. I want to have all the tower APs and backhauls plugged
 in to a port at the tower and have them show up on a matching port in the
 office, one VLAN per port.

  I tried to do this with one of the new Mikrotik CRS but the
 configuration is incredibly clunky and I can't get it working. They also
 seem to be missing a few key features like STP.

  I need a switch that has:
 tag/untag traffic on access ports
 run STP/RSTP on two trunk ports for a primary and backup wireless link
 1 or preferably more SFP ports (gigabit link is fiber interface)
 min 16 copper gige ports
 outdoor temperature rated
 prefer runs on DC power

  Any suggestions? I've not done much with managed switches and VLANs
 before, so no idea what is out there.

  Thanks
 Chris Fabien
 LakeNet LLC


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Re: [WISPA] Recommend Managed Switch

2014-02-05 Thread timothy steele
Build your self a a PFsense box the GUI is very easy and how to's all over the 
pfsense forums—
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On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Harold Bledsoe hbledso...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Here's another option too:
 http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/SMC-EZ-Switch-SMCGS26C-Smart-switch-26-ports-managed-desktop-rack/3191553.aspx
 -Hal
 On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote:
  Not sure if it's outdoor temp rated, but for the price of an HP
 1810-24G v2 (around $250), you really can't go wrong. Very good feature
 sets, excellent prices.


 http://h17007.www1.hp.com/us/en/networking/products/switches/HP_1810_Switch_Series/index.aspx#tab=TAB2

 Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS
 :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer ::

  On 02/05/2014 10:49 AM, Chris Fabien wrote:

 I am trying to set up a VLAN trunk between our office and tower over a
 60ghz gigabit link. I want to have all the tower APs and backhauls plugged
 in to a port at the tower and have them show up on a matching port in the
 office, one VLAN per port.

  I tried to do this with one of the new Mikrotik CRS but the
 configuration is incredibly clunky and I can't get it working. They also
 seem to be missing a few key features like STP.

  I need a switch that has:
 tag/untag traffic on access ports
 run STP/RSTP on two trunk ports for a primary and backup wireless link
 1 or preferably more SFP ports (gigabit link is fiber interface)
 min 16 copper gige ports
 outdoor temperature rated
 prefer runs on DC power

  Any suggestions? I've not done much with managed switches and VLANs
 before, so no idea what is out there.

  Thanks
 Chris Fabien
 LakeNet LLC


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Re: [WISPA] Recommend Managed Switch

2014-02-05 Thread Josh Reynolds

He's looking for a switch, not a router.

*Josh Reynolds*
Chief Information Officer
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j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com

On 02/05/2014 12:55 PM, timothy steele wrote:
Build your self a a PFsense box the GUI is very easy and how to's all 
over the pfsense forums

---
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On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Harold Bledsoe hbledso...@gmail.com 
mailto:hbledso...@gmail.com wrote:


Here's another option too:


http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/SMC-EZ-Switch-SMCGS26C-Smart-switch-26-ports-managed-desktop-rack/3191553.aspx

-Hal


On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote:

Not sure if it's outdoor temp rated, but for the price of an
HP 1810-24G v2 (around $250), you really can't go wrong. Very
good feature sets, excellent prices.


http://h17007.www1.hp.com/us/en/networking/products/switches/HP_1810_Switch_Series/index.aspx#tab=TAB2

Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS
:: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer ::

On 02/05/2014 10:49 AM, Chris Fabien wrote:

I am trying to set up a VLAN trunk between our office and
tower over a 60ghz gigabit link. I want to have all the tower
APs and backhauls plugged in to a port at the tower and have
them show up on a matching port in the office, one VLAN per
port.

I tried to do this with one of the new Mikrotik CRS but the
configuration is incredibly clunky and I can't get it
working. They also seem to be missing a few key features like
STP.

I need a switch that has:
tag/untag traffic on access ports
run STP/RSTP on two trunk ports for a primary and backup
wireless link
1 or preferably more SFP ports (gigabit link is fiber interface)
min 16 copper gige ports
outdoor temperature rated
prefer runs on DC power

Any suggestions? I've not done much with managed switches and
VLANs before, so no idea what is out there.

Thanks
Chris Fabien
LakeNet LLC


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Re: [WISPA] Recommend Managed Switch

2014-02-05 Thread timothy steele
Turn routing off in pfsense? Think there is a switch app for it too


Or Cisco off eBay or have the guys at linkteks get the microtik working
—
Sent from Mailbox for iPhone

On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote:

 He's looking for a switch, not a router.
 *Josh Reynolds*
 Chief Information Officer
 SPITwSPOTS
 j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com
 On 02/05/2014 12:55 PM, timothy steele wrote:
 Build your self a a PFsense box the GUI is very easy and how to's all 
 over the pfsense forums
 ---
 Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone


 On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Harold Bledsoe hbledso...@gmail.com 
 mailto:hbledso...@gmail.com wrote:

 Here's another option too:

 
 http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/SMC-EZ-Switch-SMCGS26C-Smart-switch-26-ports-managed-desktop-rack/3191553.aspx

 -Hal


 On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
 mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote:

 Not sure if it's outdoor temp rated, but for the price of an
 HP 1810-24G v2 (around $250), you really can't go wrong. Very
 good feature sets, excellent prices.

 
 http://h17007.www1.hp.com/us/en/networking/products/switches/HP_1810_Switch_Series/index.aspx#tab=TAB2

 Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS
 :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer ::

 On 02/05/2014 10:49 AM, Chris Fabien wrote:
 I am trying to set up a VLAN trunk between our office and
 tower over a 60ghz gigabit link. I want to have all the tower
 APs and backhauls plugged in to a port at the tower and have
 them show up on a matching port in the office, one VLAN per
 port.

 I tried to do this with one of the new Mikrotik CRS but the
 configuration is incredibly clunky and I can't get it
 working. They also seem to be missing a few key features like
 STP.

 I need a switch that has:
 tag/untag traffic on access ports
 run STP/RSTP on two trunk ports for a primary and backup
 wireless link
 1 or preferably more SFP ports (gigabit link is fiber interface)
 min 16 copper gige ports
 outdoor temperature rated
 prefer runs on DC power

 Any suggestions? I've not done much with managed switches and
 VLANs before, so no idea what is out there.

 Thanks
 Chris Fabien
 LakeNet LLC


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Re: [WISPA] Recommend Managed Switch

2014-02-05 Thread Josh Reynolds
Our entire network runs pfsense, and we also have commercial support 
with them. I'm simply suggesting he use a hardware based tool for the 
job, not a software one that would give him less performance and cost more.



*Josh Reynolds*
Chief Information Officer
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j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com

On 02/05/2014 01:01 PM, timothy steele wrote:

Turn routing off in pfsense? Think there is a switch app for it too

Or Cisco off eBay or have the guys at linkteks get the microtik working
---
Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone


On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com 
mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote:


He's looking for a switch, not a router.

*Josh Reynolds*
Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS
j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com

On 02/05/2014 12:55 PM, timothy steele wrote:

Build your self a a PFsense box the GUI is very easy and how to's
all over the pfsense forums
---
Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone


On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Harold Bledsoe
hbledso...@gmail.com mailto:hbledso...@gmail.com wrote:

Here's another option too:


http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/SMC-EZ-Switch-SMCGS26C-Smart-switch-26-ports-managed-desktop-rack/3191553.aspx

-Hal


On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Josh Reynolds
j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote:

Not sure if it's outdoor temp rated, but for the price
of an HP 1810-24G v2 (around $250), you really can't go
wrong. Very good feature sets, excellent prices.


http://h17007.www1.hp.com/us/en/networking/products/switches/HP_1810_Switch_Series/index.aspx#tab=TAB2

Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS
:: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer ::

On 02/05/2014 10:49 AM, Chris Fabien wrote:

I am trying to set up a VLAN trunk between our office
and tower over a 60ghz gigabit link. I want to have all
the tower APs and backhauls plugged in to a port at the
tower and have them show up on a matching port in the
office, one VLAN per port.

I tried to do this with one of the new Mikrotik CRS but
the configuration is incredibly clunky and I can't get
it working. They also seem to be missing a few key
features like STP.

I need a switch that has:
tag/untag traffic on access ports
run STP/RSTP on two trunk ports for a primary and backup
wireless link
1 or preferably more SFP ports (gigabit link is fiber
interface)
min 16 copper gige ports
outdoor temperature rated
prefer runs on DC power

Any suggestions? I've not done much with managed
switches and VLANs before, so no idea what is out there.

Thanks
Chris Fabien
LakeNet LLC


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Re: [WISPA] Recommend Managed Switch

2014-02-05 Thread Chris Fabien
These all look like indoor switches to me, are they OK at -20 or -30 C?

Was hoping for outdoor rated and DC power, this box already has 24v and 48v
power.

My issue with the CRS is it only apparently supports STP on a bridge
interface which is CPU throughput limited. Also the switch functionality
seems about half finished currently.

 On Feb 5, 2014 5:01 PM, timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.com wrote:

 Turn routing off in pfsense? Think there is a switch app for it too

 Or Cisco off eBay or have the guys at linkteks get the microtik working
 --
 Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone


 On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote:

 He's looking for a switch, not a router.

  *Josh Reynolds*
 Chief Information Officer
 SPITwSPOTS
 j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com
  On 02/05/2014 12:55 PM, timothy steele wrote:

 Build your self a a PFsense box the GUI is very easy and how to's all
 over the pfsense forums
 --
 Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone


 On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Harold Bledsoe hbledso...@gmail.comwrote:

 Here's another option too:


 http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/SMC-EZ-Switch-SMCGS26C-Smart-switch-26-ports-managed-desktop-rack/3191553.aspx

 -Hal


 On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.comwrote:

  Not sure if it's outdoor temp rated, but for the price of an HP
 1810-24G v2 (around $250), you really can't go wrong. Very good feature
 sets, excellent prices.


 http://h17007.www1.hp.com/us/en/networking/products/switches/HP_1810_Switch_Series/index.aspx#tab=TAB2

 Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS
 :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer ::

 On 02/05/2014 10:49 AM, Chris Fabien wrote:

 I am trying to set up a VLAN trunk between our office and tower over a
 60ghz gigabit link. I want to have all the tower APs and backhauls plugged
 in to a port at the tower and have them show up on a matching port in the
 office, one VLAN per port.

 I tried to do this with one of the new Mikrotik CRS but the
 configuration is incredibly clunky and I can't get it working. They also
 seem to be missing a few key features like STP.

 I need a switch that has:
 tag/untag traffic on access ports
 run STP/RSTP on two trunk ports for a primary and backup wireless link
 1 or preferably more SFP ports (gigabit link is fiber interface)
 min 16 copper gige ports
 outdoor temperature rated
 prefer runs on DC power

 Any suggestions? I've not done much with managed switches and VLANs
 before, so no idea what is out there.

 Thanks
 Chris Fabien
 LakeNet LLC


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Re: [WISPA] Recommend Managed Switch

2014-02-05 Thread Josh Reynolds
How much are you looking to spend? direct DC switches are often very 
expensive, same for lower temp range ones. It may be cheaper to put a 
heater in an enclosure and run an indoor switch.


*Josh Reynolds*
Chief Information Officer
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j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com

On 02/05/2014 01:05 PM, Chris Fabien wrote:


These all look like indoor switches to me, are they OK at -20 or -30 C?

Was hoping for outdoor rated and DC power, this box already has 24v 
and 48v power.


My issue with the CRS is it only apparently supports STP on a bridge 
interface which is CPU throughput limited. Also the switch 
functionality seems about half finished currently.


On Feb 5, 2014 5:01 PM, timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.com 
mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com wrote:


Turn routing off in pfsense? Think there is a switch app for it too

Or Cisco off eBay or have the guys at linkteks get the microtik
working
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On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote:

He's looking for a switch, not a router.

*Josh Reynolds*
Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS
j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com |
www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com

On 02/05/2014 12:55 PM, timothy steele wrote:

Build your self a a PFsense box the GUI is very easy and how
to's all over the pfsense forums
---
Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone


On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Harold Bledsoe
hbledso...@gmail.com mailto:hbledso...@gmail.com wrote:

Here's another option too:


http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/SMC-EZ-Switch-SMCGS26C-Smart-switch-26-ports-managed-desktop-rack/3191553.aspx

-Hal


On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Josh Reynolds
j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote:

Not sure if it's outdoor temp rated, but for the
price of an HP 1810-24G v2 (around $250), you really
can't go wrong. Very good feature sets, excellent prices.


http://h17007.www1.hp.com/us/en/networking/products/switches/HP_1810_Switch_Series/index.aspx#tab=TAB2

Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS
:: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer ::

On 02/05/2014 10:49 AM, Chris Fabien wrote:

I am trying to set up a VLAN trunk between our
office and tower over a 60ghz gigabit link. I want
to have all the tower APs and backhauls plugged in
to a port at the tower and have them show up on a
matching port in the office, one VLAN per port.

I tried to do this with one of the new Mikrotik CRS
but the configuration is incredibly clunky and I
can't get it working. They also seem to be missing a
few key features like STP.

I need a switch that has:
tag/untag traffic on access ports
run STP/RSTP on two trunk ports for a primary and
backup wireless link
1 or preferably more SFP ports (gigabit link is
fiber interface)
min 16 copper gige ports
outdoor temperature rated
prefer runs on DC power

Any suggestions? I've not done much with managed
switches and VLANs before, so no idea what is out
there.

Thanks
Chris Fabien
LakeNet LLC


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Re: [WISPA] Recommend Managed Switch

2014-02-05 Thread Chris Fabien
Well, if it's $1000 vs $200 i'd probably do a heater. $300-400 might get
the outdoor switch.
On Feb 5, 2014 5:08 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote:

  How much are you looking to spend? direct DC switches are often very
 expensive, same for lower temp range ones. It may be cheaper to put a
 heater in an enclosure and run an indoor switch.

  *Josh Reynolds*
 Chief Information Officer
 SPITwSPOTS
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   On 02/05/2014 01:05 PM, Chris Fabien wrote:

 These all look like indoor switches to me, are they OK at -20 or -30 C?

 Was hoping for outdoor rated and DC power, this box already has 24v and
 48v power.

 My issue with the CRS is it only apparently supports STP on a bridge
 interface which is CPU throughput limited. Also the switch functionality
 seems about half finished currently.

   On Feb 5, 2014 5:01 PM, timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Turn routing off in pfsense? Think there is a switch app for it too

  Or Cisco off eBay or have the guys at linkteks get the microtik working
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  On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.comwrote:

 He's looking for a switch, not a router.

  *Josh Reynolds*
 Chief Information Officer
 SPITwSPOTS
 j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com
   On 02/05/2014 12:55 PM, timothy steele wrote:

 Build your self a a PFsense box the GUI is very easy and how to's all
 over the pfsense forums
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  On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Harold Bledsoe hbledso...@gmail.comwrote:

 Here's another option too:


 http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/SMC-EZ-Switch-SMCGS26C-Smart-switch-26-ports-managed-desktop-rack/3191553.aspx

  -Hal


 On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.comwrote:

  Not sure if it's outdoor temp rated, but for the price of an HP
 1810-24G v2 (around $250), you really can't go wrong. Very good feature
 sets, excellent prices.


 http://h17007.www1.hp.com/us/en/networking/products/switches/HP_1810_Switch_Series/index.aspx#tab=TAB2

 Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS
 :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer ::

  On 02/05/2014 10:49 AM, Chris Fabien wrote:

 I am trying to set up a VLAN trunk between our office and tower over a
 60ghz gigabit link. I want to have all the tower APs and backhauls plugged
 in to a port at the tower and have them show up on a matching port in the
 office, one VLAN per port.

  I tried to do this with one of the new Mikrotik CRS but the
 configuration is incredibly clunky and I can't get it working. They also
 seem to be missing a few key features like STP.

  I need a switch that has:
 tag/untag traffic on access ports
 run STP/RSTP on two trunk ports for a primary and backup wireless link
 1 or preferably more SFP ports (gigabit link is fiber interface)
 min 16 copper gige ports
 outdoor temperature rated
 prefer runs on DC power

  Any suggestions? I've not done much with managed switches and VLANs
 before, so no idea what is out there.

  Thanks
 Chris Fabien
 LakeNet LLC


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Re: [WISPA] Recommend Managed Switch

2014-02-05 Thread Andris Bjornson
 ports for a primary and
  backup wireless link
  1 or preferably more SFP ports (gigabit link is
  fiber interface)
  min 16 copper gige ports
  outdoor temperature rated
  prefer runs on DC power
 
  Any suggestions? I've not done much with managed
  switches and VLANs before, so no idea what is out
  there.
 
  Thanks
  Chris Fabien
  LakeNet LLC
 
 
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 Well, if it's $1000 vs $200 i'd probably do a heater. $300-400 might get
 the outdoor switch.
 On Feb 5, 2014 5:08 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote:

   How much are you looking to spend? direct DC switches are often very
  expensive, same for lower temp range ones. It may be cheaper to put a
  heater in an enclosure and run an indoor switch.
 
   *Josh Reynolds*
  Chief Information Officer
  SPITwSPOTS
  j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com
On 02/05/2014 01:05 PM, Chris Fabien wrote:
 
  These all look like indoor switches to me, are they OK at -20 or -30 C?
 
  Was hoping for outdoor rated and DC power, this box already has 24v and
  48v power.
 
  My issue with the CRS is it only apparently supports STP on a bridge
  interface which is CPU throughput limited. Also the switch functionality
  seems about half finished currently.
 
On Feb 5, 2014 5:01 PM, timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Turn routing off in pfsense? Think there is a switch app for it too
 
   Or Cisco off eBay or have the guys at linkteks get the microtik working
   --
  Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone
 
 
   On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
 wrote:
 
  He's looking for a switch, not a router.
 
   *Josh Reynolds*
  Chief Information Officer
  SPITwSPOTS
  j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com
On 02/05/2014 12:55 PM, timothy steele wrote:
 
  Build your self a a PFsense box the GUI is very easy and how to's all
  over the pfsense forums
  --
  Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone
 
 
   On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Harold Bledsoe hbledso...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Here's another option too:
 
 
 
 http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/SMC-EZ-Switch-SMCGS26C-Smart-switch-26-ports-managed-desktop-rack/3191553.aspx
 
   -Hal
 
 
  On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
 wrote:
 
   Not sure if it's outdoor temp rated, but for the price of an HP
  1810-24G v2 (around $250), you really can't go wrong. Very good
 feature
  sets, excellent prices.
 
 
 
 http://h17007.www1.hp.com/us/en/networking/products/switches/HP_1810_Switch_Series/index.aspx#tab=TAB2
 
  Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS
  :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer ::
 
   On 02/05/2014 10:49 AM, Chris Fabien wrote:
 
  I am trying to set up a VLAN trunk between our office and tower over
 a
  60ghz gigabit link. I want to have all the tower APs and backhauls
 plugged
  in to a port at the tower and have them show up on a matching port
 in the
  office, one VLAN per port.
 
   I tried to do this with one of the new Mikrotik CRS but the
  configuration is incredibly clunky and I can't get it working. They
 also
  seem to be missing a few key features like STP.
 
   I need

Re: [WISPA] Recommend Managed Switch

2014-02-05 Thread Phil Curnutt
We've been running a Cisco  WC2955T-12 outside in an unheated enclosure
(Northern New Mexico) for about three years with a hiccup.  It is only has
twelve ports, but is 24 VDC and good to -10C.  Also has a DIN mount.  Think
I found it used on line for about $800.

Phil




On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote:

  How much are you looking to spend? direct DC switches are often very
 expensive, same for lower temp range ones. It may be cheaper to put a
 heater in an enclosure and run an indoor switch.


  *Josh Reynolds*
 Chief Information Officer
 SPITwSPOTS
 j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com
   On 02/05/2014 01:05 PM, Chris Fabien wrote:

 These all look like indoor switches to me, are they OK at -20 or -30 C?

 Was hoping for outdoor rated and DC power, this box already has 24v and
 48v power.

 My issue with the CRS is it only apparently supports STP on a bridge
 interface which is CPU throughput limited. Also the switch functionality
 seems about half finished currently.

   On Feb 5, 2014 5:01 PM, timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Turn routing off in pfsense? Think there is a switch app for it too

  Or Cisco off eBay or have the guys at linkteks get the microtik working
  --
 Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone


  On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.comwrote:

 He's looking for a switch, not a router.

  *Josh Reynolds*
 Chief Information Officer
 SPITwSPOTS
 j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com
   On 02/05/2014 12:55 PM, timothy steele wrote:

 Build your self a a PFsense box the GUI is very easy and how to's all
 over the pfsense forums
 --
 Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone


  On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Harold Bledsoe hbledso...@gmail.comwrote:

 Here's another option too:


 http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/SMC-EZ-Switch-SMCGS26C-Smart-switch-26-ports-managed-desktop-rack/3191553.aspx

  -Hal


 On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.comwrote:

  Not sure if it's outdoor temp rated, but for the price of an HP
 1810-24G v2 (around $250), you really can't go wrong. Very good feature
 sets, excellent prices.


 http://h17007.www1.hp.com/us/en/networking/products/switches/HP_1810_Switch_Series/index.aspx#tab=TAB2

 Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS
 :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer ::

  On 02/05/2014 10:49 AM, Chris Fabien wrote:

 I am trying to set up a VLAN trunk between our office and tower over a
 60ghz gigabit link. I want to have all the tower APs and backhauls plugged
 in to a port at the tower and have them show up on a matching port in the
 office, one VLAN per port.

  I tried to do this with one of the new Mikrotik CRS but the
 configuration is incredibly clunky and I can't get it working. They also
 seem to be missing a few key features like STP.

  I need a switch that has:
 tag/untag traffic on access ports
 run STP/RSTP on two trunk ports for a primary and backup wireless link
 1 or preferably more SFP ports (gigabit link is fiber interface)
 min 16 copper gige ports
 outdoor temperature rated
 prefer runs on DC power

  Any suggestions? I've not done much with managed switches and VLANs
 before, so no idea what is out there.

  Thanks
 Chris Fabien
 LakeNet LLC


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Re: [WISPA] Recommend Managed Switch

2014-02-05 Thread Erik Anderson
Heat source? We use a UPS. The enclosures are cold, but not as cold as 
the outside air and we have not had a problem using indoor rated Cisco 
switches (even in our recent -19 weather). We do use fans for cooling 
during other seasons. But, we have had fans die and open the box to 
discover an estimated 110-130 degree weather while the switches kept on 
humming along. Not recommended, but that has been our experience. In 
fact, I do not recall a single Cisco switch going bad at a tower site 
using this setup, just one or two ports. All these switches have been 
ebay buys.


On 2/5/2014 9:34 PM, Phil Curnutt wrote:
We've been running a Cisco  WC2955T-12 outside in an unheated 
enclosure (Northern New Mexico) for about three years with a hiccup.  
It is only has twelve ports, but is 24 VDC and good to -10C.  Also has 
a DIN mount.  Think I found it used on line for about $800.


Phil




On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com 
mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote:


How much are you looking to spend? direct DC switches are often
very expensive, same for lower temp range ones. It may be cheaper
to put a heater in an enclosure and run an indoor switch.


*Josh Reynolds*
Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS
j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com |
www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com

On 02/05/2014 01:05 PM, Chris Fabien wrote:


These all look like indoor switches to me, are they OK at -20 or
-30 C?

Was hoping for outdoor rated and DC power, this box already has
24v and 48v power.

My issue with the CRS is it only apparently supports STP on a
bridge interface which is CPU throughput limited. Also the switch
functionality seems about half finished currently.

On Feb 5, 2014 5:01 PM, timothy steele
timothy.pct...@gmail.com mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com wrote:

Turn routing off in pfsense? Think there is a switch app for
it too

Or Cisco off eBay or have the guys at linkteks get the
microtik working
---
Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone


On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Josh Reynolds
j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote:

He's looking for a switch, not a router.

*Josh Reynolds*
Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS
j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com |
www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com

On 02/05/2014 12:55 PM, timothy steele wrote:

Build your self a a PFsense box the GUI is very easy and
how to's all over the pfsense forums
---
Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for
iPhone


On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Harold Bledsoe
hbledso...@gmail.com mailto:hbledso...@gmail.com wrote:

Here's another option too:


http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/SMC-EZ-Switch-SMCGS26C-Smart-switch-26-ports-managed-desktop-rack/3191553.aspx

-Hal


On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Josh Reynolds
j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com
wrote:

Not sure if it's outdoor temp rated, but for
the price of an HP 1810-24G v2 (around $250),
you really can't go wrong. Very good feature
sets, excellent prices.


http://h17007.www1.hp.com/us/en/networking/products/switches/HP_1810_Switch_Series/index.aspx#tab=TAB2

Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer ::
SPITwSPOTS
:: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer ::

On 02/05/2014 10:49 AM, Chris Fabien wrote:

I am trying to set up a VLAN trunk between our
office and tower over a 60ghz gigabit link. I
want to have all the tower APs and backhauls
plugged in to a port at the tower and have them
show up on a matching port in the office, one
VLAN per port.

I tried to do this with one of the new Mikrotik
CRS but the configuration is incredibly clunky
and I can't get it working. They also seem to
be missing a few key features like STP.

I need a switch that has:
tag/untag traffic on access ports
run STP/RSTP on two trunk ports for a primary
and backup wireless link
1 or preferably more SFP ports (gigabit link is
fiber interface)
min 16 copper gige ports
outdoor temperature rated
prefer runs on DC power

Any suggestions?