Re: [WISPA] State mapping agency access
Robert Kim, CV- Access, Inc. (Central Valley) 209-988-7388 Apx. rural coverage: Hwy 205 South to Hwy 152, I-5 and east to the other side of the valley. Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-Access, Inc. www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com Providing Broadband Internet Access to California's Rural Central Valley This electronic mail communication is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information which is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and delete the original. Thank you. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert Kim App and Facebook Marketing Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 4:43 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] State mapping agency access Anything on Central California? That's a big chunk of real estate. Also, it's important for me to get this updated for our internal records asap. I've been bull dozed by those big 500 pounders before and it's just a blast! Yes, i'm being sarcastic! =) -- -- Robert Q Kim, Sparkah Destination Event Management Trade Show Marketing Strategies VP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrXcLCVkFds 2611 S Coast Highway San Diego, CA 92007 310 598 1606 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Help coming up with company name....
+1 for Wi-Eye skynet-terminator-assault.jpg Wi-Eye SkyEye Skynet Skynet Alive Skynet Comes Alive From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Victoria Proffer Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:04 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Help coming up with company name Wi-Eye ... =)) Victoria Proffer STLWiMAX, LLC http://www.stlwimax.com/ 314-720-1000 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Zach Mann Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 11:20 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Help coming up with company name Brainstorm time, Do any of you have suggestions for a company name, obviously involving wireless, networks, surveillance etc ? Trying to come up with a good name. Open to any suggestions. Thanks in advance -Zach inline: image001.jpg___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Santa Rosa CA
why are they not just calling Meraki direct, they are just down the 101 from them??? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of li...@cielosystems.net Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 2:21 PM To: memb...@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Santa Rosa CA Is there anyone in the Santa Rosa, California area. One of our customers needs assistance locally for their Meraki Wifi network. Please contact jdipa...@cielosystems.net for further detail. thanks, Mike Goicoechea m...@cielosystems.net 806-977-9001 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Inexpensive alarm monitor
the most inexpensive is in your trash pile, a power pinger, or CB3 radio, plug it in on the line side of the UPS and just ping it every minute and you will know when you are on battery. Conversely for a generator. also a camera facing a set of gages, voltage, line, generator, oil pressure, temp, etc. Your probably too young to remember the cable weather channel same thing but with music. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Troy Settle Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 5:45 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Inexpensive alarm monitor We've recently installed generators at several sites, but have not yet found an affordable solution for monitoring them. Does anyone know of a simple product that will enable me to monitor these things? Everything I've found is super expensive. All I really need, is a simple device that can be wired into the alarm contacts on the transfer switch. I'm not (yet) concerned about monitoring other metrics. Thanks, -- Troy Settle, Network Administrator The Wired Road Authority 1117 E. Stuart Dr. Galax, VA 24333 (276) 238-0049 (office) (276) 237-3890 (cell) tset...@thewiredroad.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Inexpensive alarm monitor
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Profito Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 10:22 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Inexpensive alarm monitor the most inexpensive is in your trash pile, a power pinger, or CB3 radio, plug it in on the line side of the UPS and just ping it every minute and you will know when you are on battery. Conversely for a generator. also a camera facing a set of gages, voltage, line, generator, oil pressure, temp, etc. Your probably too young to remember the cable weather channel same thing but with music. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Troy Settle Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 5:45 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Inexpensive alarm monitor We've recently installed generators at several sites, but have not yet found an affordable solution for monitoring them. Does anyone know of a simple product that will enable me to monitor these things? Everything I've found is super expensive. All I really need, is a simple device that can be wired into the alarm contacts on the transfer switch. I'm not (yet) concerned about monitoring other metrics. Thanks, -- Troy Settle, Network Administrator The Wired Road Authority 1117 E. Stuart Dr. Galax, VA 24333 (276) 238-0049 (office) (276) 237-3890 (cell) tset...@thewiredroad.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Looking for Site to Sell
uh how about this one WISPA.org From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Zach Mann Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 12:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for Site to Sell Ebay :) On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Don Marino d...@greataukwireless.com wrote: Hey all, does anyone have a recommendation on a reliable site to sell used wireless equipment? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] New site refresh issue
when i click view the map I get a blank page From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 9:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] New site refresh issue www.mywificoverage.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of ~NGL~ Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 11:22 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] New site refresh issue Where is the login page? NGL From: Jim Patient mailto:jpati...@linktechs.net Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 9:03 AM To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] New site refresh issue The how to video is online. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmcMaC8Rw_Q Jim Patient Link Technologies, Inc. 314-735-0270 www.linktechs.net From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 4:04 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] New site refresh issue We've had a few calls and emails about the page refreshing when you generate your map on mywificoverage.com. Just click the home button or the logo at the top and the page will refresh. Once you go to home it should refresh every 30 seconds. Dennis is working on a how to video for youtube and it should be done in a day or so. We will post when it's online. If you have particular antenna patterns you would like added shoot them over and we will try to get them in the drop down list. Please keep the feedback coming. If you see a problem or would like additional features let us know. Thx, Jim Patient Link Technologies, Inc. 314-735-0270 www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2085/4539 - Release Date: 10/05/11 _ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2085/4541 - Release Date: 10/06/11 image001.png WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Adding External Batteries to a UPS
Try the SMART1000LCD, 1000VA / 500 watts, from Costco, $89.00. Pull the battery, buy two more just like it from Interstate Battery, make 2 lines apx. 20 inches each with 1 male and 3 female. plug in male to ups threaded thru vents, put the three batteries on top the case and plug in. For ease of handling duct tape the batteries together horizontally. They will always come back when power is applied(default is ON), until circuit failure, about 4-5 years. Less if you have really bad power, like on a old dairy, maybe 3 years. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 3:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Adding External Batteries to a UPS We used these a lot in commercial building closets, because of their compact foot print, and excellent Power protection.. (Although never used the snmp card) We've pulled almost all of them out to date. The reason we stopped using them is that like all other consumer UPSes, they tend to fail bad, when batteries die, and not restore power to the equipment until a site visit to remove UPS from service. (although we did like that it has a physical on/off switch, not just button, to force UPS on state). Whats also a pain is that the internal batteries are NOT easilly removable. You have to take it apart in half, and hope not to short anything in the process, and prey the leads stay on when put back togeather. (unless they've changed the cases, for better access, since) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Matt lm7...@gmail.com To: WUG us...@wug.cc; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 5:12 PM Subject: [WISPA] Adding External Batteries to a UPS Looking at this UPS. http://www.tripplite.com/en/products/model.cfm?txtModelID=3007 It is small enough to fit in our standard outdoor enclosures. It also supports being monitored by SNMP. Problem is it does not have an external battery connector. Has anyone had any luck adding external batteries to a UPS like this? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mobile Cell phone Booster
Wilson electronics, I have one of their mobile units in my car. If there is one bar outside, I have 5 inside. for store locator, here is their site http://www.wilsonelectronics.com/Productlisting.aspx?Category=8 or direct service and answers; http://www.alternativewireless.com/cellular-antennas/improving-cell-phone-re ception/cell-phone-power-boosters.html or Amazon; http://www.amazon.com/s/183-9920895-0037934?ie=UTF8tag=mozilla-20index=ble ndedlink_code=qsfield-keywords=wilson%20electronics%20signal%20boostersou rceid=Mozilla-search -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 4:29 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Mobile Cellphone Booster Anyone know of a mobile cellphone booster that works well on the road? Having issues getting service and getting mobile hotspot to work when out of town. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
TOM DeREGGI, I would like to make you a Serious Business Offer. OK? Seriously. This is a real offer. In fact, you really can't turn me down, as you'll come to understand in a moment. Here's the deal. You're going to start a business or expand the one you've got now. It doesn't really matter what you do or what you're going to do. I'll partner with you no matter what business you're in - as long as it's legal. But I can't give you any capital - you have to come up with that on your own. I won't give you any labor - that's definitely up to you. What I will do, however, is demand you follow all sorts of rules about what products and services you can offer, how much (and how often) you pay your employees, and where and when you're allowed to operate your business. That's my role in the affair - to tell you what to do. Now in return for my rules, I'm going to take roughly half of whatever you make in the business each year. Half seems fair, doesn't it? I think so. Of course, that's half of your profits. You're also going to have to pay me about 12% of whatever you decide to pay your employees because you've got to cover my expenses for promulgating all the rules about who you can employ, when, where, and how. Come on, you're my partner. It's only fair. Now. after you've put your hard-earned savings at risk to start this business, and after you've worked hard at it for a few decades (paying me my 50% or a bit more along the way each year), you might decide you'd like to cash out - to finally live the good life. Whether or not this is fair - some people never can afford to retire - is a different argument. As your partner, I'm happy for you to sell whenever you'd like. because our agreement says if you sell, you have to pay me an additional 20% of whatever the capitalized value of the business is at that time. I know. I know. you put up all the original capital. You took all the risks. You put in all the labor. That's all true. But I've done my part, too. I've collected 50% of the profits each year. And I've always come up with more rules for you to follow each year. Therefore, I deserve another, final 20% slice of the business. Oh. and one more thing. Even after you've sold the business and paid all my fees. I'd recommend buying lots of life insurance. You see, even after you've been retired for years, when you die, you'll have to pay me 50% of whatever your estate is worth. After all, I've got lots of partners and not all of them are as successful as you and your family. We don't think it's fair for your kids to have such a big advantage. But if you buy enough life insurance, you can finance this expense for your children. All in all, if you're a very successful entrepreneur. if you're one of the rare, lucky, and hard-working people who can create a new company, employ lots of people, and satisfy the public. you'll end up paying me more than 75% of your income over your life. Thanks so much. I'm sure you'll think my offer is reasonable and happily partner with me. But it doesn't really matter how you feel about it because if you ever try to stiff me - or cheat me on any of my fees or rules - I'll break down your door in the middle of the night, threaten you and your family with heavy, automatic weapons, and throw you in jail. That's how civil society is supposed to work, right? This is Amerika, isn't it? That's the offer Amerika gives its entrepreneurs. And the idiots in Washington wonder why there are no new jobs. This Is Why There Are No Jobs in America HYPERLINK http://www.stansberryresearch.comwww.stansberryresearch.com Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-Access, Inc. www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com Providing Broadband Internet Access to California's Rural Central Valley From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 6:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire In support of your points On the news the other day, they pointed out a dituation where the city of Wash DC is having the cops harrass the Bicycle Taxis, and got Politions on the record saying that they are trying to find a way to regulate them. The count is something like 50 total bucycle Taxi across the city. Isn't this a bit extreme and wasteful to go after a few bicycle riders? They literally work hard to give others enjoyment, a public good. My point here is... if the government can see it, they will try to regulate it. Thats what governments do, they regulate things. The government really needs to stop, they are sticking their nose into way to many businesses, taking regulation to a point of harrasment instead of a public good. Its the whole thing about making regulation in search of a problem, instead of the proper way which is indentifying a clear problem and regulating to solve it. Or in my opinion, to get out of the way and let the free market solve
[WISPA] Friday funny
It's Friday, Thought you all might appreciate this! Watch out for the boot and crash! http://www.flixxy.com/my-blackberry-is-not-working.htm WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] looking for ideas...
quote both with open connection speeds and encryption, I bet he changes his mind. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 4:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] looking for ideas... because that is what the RFQ says. I've asked, but gotten no usable answer. On 5/7/2011 4:53 PM, Chuck Profito wrote: That close, wouldn't encrypted M Rockets be cheaper than labor wire, and nearly just as fast? Bridged? Routed? Can any one point see the others? Why no wireless, what's he afraid of? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 4:49 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] looking for ideas... Depending on how it needs to be installed between buildings, there may not be much cost difference between fiber and copper, especially if you need multiple circuits. Fiber is not really expensive and you can get a lot of strands in a small cable. Just be sure to run more strands than you need. On 5/6/2011 5:23 PM, Larry A Weidig wrote: My initial response is fiber, due to distances. However, you might be able to get away with something less costly depending on requirements. What speed? 10, 100, 1000, 10G. There are lots of Ethernet extenders that can give you speeds to 100 Mbps over coax, copper,. just Google it and you will find plenty. We have used these when fiber is not an option. However, make sure you take grounding between buildings into account as well with stuff like coax/copper. If you can afford it fiber is your best option. * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 4:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] looking for ideas... I have a special job to do. I need to connect 4 sites together in a line and provide Ethernet connectivity between them. I may NOT use wireless to do this. I can run overhead cable of most any type I need to. Coax, cat3 or cat5, or even fiber if the price is right... Site 1 to site 2 is 700 ft. Site 2 to site 3 is 900 ft. Site 3 to site 4 is 2400 ft. Looking for options... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] looking for ideas...
That close, wouldn't encrypted M Rockets be cheaper than labor wire, and nearly just as fast? Bridged? Routed? Can any one point see the others? Why no wireless, what's he afraid of? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 4:49 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] looking for ideas... Depending on how it needs to be installed between buildings, there may not be much cost difference between fiber and copper, especially if you need multiple circuits. Fiber is not really expensive and you can get a lot of strands in a small cable. Just be sure to run more strands than you need. On 5/6/2011 5:23 PM, Larry A Weidig wrote: My initial response is fiber, due to distances. However, you might be able to get away with something less costly depending on requirements. What speed? 10, 100, 1000, 10G. There are lots of Ethernet extenders that can give you speeds to 100 Mbps over coax, copper,. just Google it and you will find plenty. We have used these when fiber is not an option. However, make sure you take grounding between buildings into account as well with stuff like coax/copper. If you can afford it fiber is your best option. * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 4:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] looking for ideas... I have a special job to do. I need to connect 4 sites together in a line and provide Ethernet connectivity between them. I may NOT use wireless to do this. I can run overhead cable of most any type I need to. Coax, cat3 or cat5, or even fiber if the price is right... Site 1 to site 2 is 700 ft. Site 2 to site 3 is 900 ft. Site 3 to site 4 is 2400 ft. Looking for options... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] FBI closes in on zombie PC gang
** FBI closes in on zombie PC gang ** In an unusual move, investigators take control of the servers that control millions of zombie PCs. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/news/technology-13078297 Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-Access, Inc. www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com Providing Broadband Internet Access to California's Rural Central Valley This electronic mail communication is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information which is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and delete the original. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] PING
just checking WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Always climb with a buddy......
He just wanted to make a bigger S P L A S H ! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gary Garrett Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 10:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Always climb with a buddy.. I don't know man, It seems like a lot of trouble to go to if you are just going to kill yourself. At 50' any fool can see you are high enough to get the job done. Even in the dark. On 3/18/2011 9:05 PM, RickG wrote: You know what happens when you assume :) But he was young and strong and it might be safe to assume on something... On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 12:20 AM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: Actually, he didn't ride the elevator. I knew I read it... http://www.wirelessestimator.com/breaking_news.cfm An elevator in the tower stops about 45 feet short of the top. Ginopolis said the man did not appear to have access to the elevator, which is kept locked. The only thing it's safe to assume is that he got there under his own power, Ginopolis said. You have to climb the tower get to the top. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] band pass filters
Too bad there is not an electronic version of that w/Ethernet port built in so you could switch to any channel on the fly. Or maybe a follow me on the ap side. The 2.4 is almost unusable in many places. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marco Coelho Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 7:30 AM To: scubac...@gmail.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] band pass filters The only thing you've got to remember, is that if in the future you have a problem, you can't just make a freq change on the AP, you've got to move hardware as well. Glad it worked. I'll keep it in the toolkit. Marco On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Rogelio scubac...@gmail.com wrote: For what it's worth, I had a super noisy Wi-Fi noise environment (hundreds of clients, dozens of APs, little to no channel coordination, etc) and got a handle on the situation by putting these band pass filters http://www.rflinx.com/products/filters/2400/bpf/ I got several of each, but I ended up using channel 1 mostly. When I put that puppy in, I got like 40 dB less noise on the channels I didn't want, and I also could not even hear other APs when I moved the radio to channels 2-11 (there is that much isolation in the filter). Now throughput is much smoother and higher. Before I put these in, bandwidth would be slow and come in spurts (as evidenced by various throughput tools like iperf and online speed tests). -- Also on LinkedIn? Feel free to connect if you too are an open networker: scubac...@gmail.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 50-100 Mbps IP needed short term in Orlando
That's a gym, what are they planning to watch their I Pods to lose weight? they have less than 50 parking spaces! and they want a 100 meg! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 7:43 PM To: WISPA General List; memb...@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] 50-100 Mbps IP needed short term in Orlando Re-post from FISPA List, If anyone can help, please contact Richard Directly. Thanks Faisal On 3/14/2011 6:21 PM, Richard Williamson wrote: Hello Everyone, I am looking for a temporary wireless solution at the following location: 14351 Stoneybrook Blvd, Suite A, Orlando FL. I would prefer 50 - 100 mbps if at all possible. I am seeking a month to month contract (most likely 4 - 5 months) and am looking for installation within the next week. We do have an existing tower on site that would need to be extended. Please let me know if you can service this area and pricing. Contact me off list if you can provide service. Thank you, Richard Williamson II Caviair Corp Direct line: (239) 790-7235 Main Line: (239) 790- Website:www.caviair.com -- Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Windows Upgrades / PC-Hotspot
From KOMANDO.COM Turn your PC into a Wi-Fi hotspot http://www.komando.com/downloads/category.aspx?id=10392utm_medium=nlutm_s ource=dotdutm_content=2011-03-07-articleutm_campaign=title These days, nearly all of our gadgets connect to the Internet. And the vast majority of them do it wirelessly. As awesome as wireless communication is, it has its limits. For example, if you aren't in a Wi-Fi hotspot, you can't connect. Virtual Router can help. It turns your laptop into a roaming wireless hotspot. All you need is some type of Internet connection. It can be through a local area network, 3G or dial-up. This gives you the opportunity to connect your Wi-Fi only gadgets. And you can secure your hotspot with WPA2 encryption. That means you're still safe even while you're broadcasting Wi-Fi. Cost: Free System: Windows 7 http://www.komando.com/downloads/category.aspx?id=10392utm_medium=nlutm_s ource=dotdutm_content=2011-03-07-articleutm_campaign=end Click Here to Download Now WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rack mount poe switch
Add a battery, Duct tape and DURA CELL, or solder if you want to get fancy. Or when your nearby, change it out to a Lithium phone battery. I'm pretty sure that what Tim's been doing. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 10:11 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch Yep, even tried the serial port etc.nada.nothing. I'm willing to try the new improved version with the LCD screen, but if one of those fails pre-maturely than we're done with them for good. Brad From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 12:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch If it looses it's ip then yes. Did you try the default ip? I always kept an address block in the DL default range on my routers just in case. Cameron On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: Hey Cameron, Yah, I remember this topic coming up before, but the failures we've had (that come quickly to mind) are no access to the unit at all. Does the battery issue prevent the unit from working even when power is restored? Brad From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 11:54 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch Brad, A tip on the Loggers 8 port...there is a rechargeable battery inside that doesn't seem to last more than a year. Once it dies, you lose your config and if the device ever looses power, everything comes back in either all off state or all on state. I tossed one logger and then when it happened to a second, I decided to tinker. I got a replacement battery at batteries plus and it started working correctly again, saving my config after a power outage. I'm not sure what can be done about it except to put them on a maintenance schedule. Of course this was on the older devicesmaybe they've gone to flash memory now? Cameron On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: We've had more failures than successes with the Digital Loggers eight port rack mount rebooter. Granted they are the least expensive rebooter on the market at less than $300, but I would expect a better failure rate than what we've seen out of them the past several years. I noticed on Digital Loggers site that they have a newer version available. Maybe this version is more reliable? I've also read that the DIN mount style rebooter is more reliable than the 2U rack mount style. Maybe Kevin could somehow integrate the DIN unit into his PoE controller to save costs and development. While I think adding a couple AC ports to this device would be neat..let's not divert from the intent of this product from being a PoE controller. I wonder why UBNT doesn't design a PoE controller that would fit the need? Seems like a natural fit product that they could also manage via their AirControl System management software. Best, Brad From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 10:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch Kevin, On cost: With your model, we're still going to need to buy a device like a Digital Loggers remote AC reboot device because we will need to reboot a router or switch. If it can have a couple of AC ports to power a Mikrotik router (x86-based) and a switch, we don't have to ALSO buy another remote boot device ($350 value). Since we can get the remote booting with the digital logger box, then all your box has done is clean up our PoE's, and I wouldn't pay nearly that much. On 3/2/2011 3:23 PM, Kevin Sullivan wrote: So... we're most of the way through a mid-span design similar to what people are outlining here. Right now it's only non-standard POE, though. No 802.3. Again, we were only going to build three, for our own use. If we sold something that was: Remote on/off per port Auto-ping reboot per port Dual-power supply, with notification on fail DC powered, either 12, 24, or 48v The one we are working on is 24v output only 1u rackmount or small form factor wall mountable SNMP for reboot, voltage monitoring, input monitoring We figured if it's a DC device, we can plug it into 110v easily with a transformer. If it was $450, would anyone buy them? Actually, what I really need to know is, would we be able to get rid of 90 of them? We'd have to make a batch of 100, and we could use 10. We'd get them back from the PCB manufacturer mid-May. Kevin - Original Message - From: Mark Nash mailto:markl...@uwol.net To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount
Re: [WISPA] users...
Chuck, do you mean to a heavy user or another tower? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 5:43 PM To: wil...@optimumwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] users... We've basically gotten to the point that in some areas on our network, 6 canopy AP's still isn't enough. We're going to do a fiber trial in one short half mile shot, get our feet wet, then we've already planned an additional 6-7 miles if everything works out. Regards, Chuck On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Optimum Wireless Services wil...@optimumwireless.com wrote: I'm on the same boat. I added more bandwidth to my network and my users still saturate it. I'm doing traffic shapping and still. On Sat, 2011-02-19 at 02:42 -0500, Blair Davis wrote: a fun little note... three weeks ago, I doubled my networks available bandwidth... tonight, at 10:05PM EDT, those $#%@ users managed to saturate it again! Grrr WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Solar acting backwards
Forbes, I know this sounds stupid, but I have always found it to be true, in any battery configuration, you are only as strong as your weakest cell. It determines the output/input load. Take a hydrometer, a shorted cell will show discharge while charging. Chuck -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 10:43 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Solar acting backwards A week ago we received a low battery page on a solar site. We got there to find the Positive wire was oxidized and not making connection, stripped it back and it worked fine. Then we had no sun for three days, worked perfectly. When the sun came out it stopped working again, isn't that kind of backwards? On my way out again to change batteries, we use a bank of two 6v industrial batteries. Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Solar acting backwards
Cool -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 11:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Solar acting backwards Chuck, It was more simple than I thought, I got up there and the negative wire was arcing from not being completely connected, fixed that and everything is fine. Thanks, Forbes On 2/1/2011 10:59 AM, Chuck Profito wrote: Forbes, I know this sounds stupid, but I have always found it to be true, in any battery configuration, you are only as strong as your weakest cell. It determines the output/input load. Take a hydrometer, a shorted cell will show discharge while charging. Chuck -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 10:43 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Solar acting backwards A week ago we received a low battery page on a solar site. We got there to find the Positive wire was oxidized and not making connection, stripped it back and it worked fine. Then we had no sun for three days, worked perfectly. When the sun came out it stopped working again, isn't that kind of backwards? On my way out again to change batteries, we use a bank of two 6v industrial batteries. Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wow- and how stimulus works
MDK- just for you. :-} -Or It is a slow day in the small Minnesota town of Marshall, and the streets are deserted. Times are tough, everybody is in debt, and everybody is living on credit. A rich tourist visiting the area drives through town, stops at the motel, lays a $100 bill on the desk and says he wants to inspect the rooms upstairs before selecting one for the night. 1. As soon as he walks upstairs, the motel owner grabs the bill and runs next door to pay his debt to the butcher. 2. The butcher takes the $100 and runs down the street to retire his debt to the pig farmer. 3. The pig farmer takes the $100 and heads off to pay his bill to his supplier, the Farmer's Co-op. 4. The guy at the Farmer's Co-op takes the $100 and runs to pay his debt to the local prostitute, who has also been facing hard times and has had to offer her services on credit. 5. The hooker rushes to the hotel and pays off her room bill with the hotel owner. 6. The hotel proprietor then places the $100 back on the counter so the rich traveler will not suspect anything. At that moment the traveler comes down the stairs, states that the rooms are not satisfactory, picks up the $100 bill and leaves town. No one produced anything. No one earned anything. However, the whole town is now out of debt and looks to the future with a lot more optimism. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how Stimulus works. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!!
Thanks for sharing, it's fun to hear about homeruns! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Spott Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!! LOLz, My wife (the boss) called one dad on our network to ask him to tone down the bit-torrent-ing. She was told by the dad that they did not torrent. Well, they went computer to computer and disconnected each one. When they got to the son's computer they discovered the culprit... :) My wife felt pretty bad, the kid was in serious trouble, especially since his dad worked for MS as some leader in the team running/developing MS-DRM! ryan On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote: When we forward copyright notices from the entertainment industry lawyers to our customers who download illegally-obtained movies, we get a variety of responses from our customers, ranging from none at all, shocked, angry, understanding, etc. This takes the cake...DEFINITELY my favorite...gettin a little wrist-slap from dad... (names have been changed to protect the guilty)... *** Hello this is Taylor Wisdom, Bill Wisdom's son. My father just informed me of an email he received from UnwiredWest via Mark Nash regarding the downloading of a film which violated copy infringement laws. The was labeled Takers. I did download the film Takers from a bit torrent website and have since then deleted the film and any programs affiliated with them. This sort of copyright infringement will not happen again. I do apologize for the inconvenience. Sincerely, Taylor Wisdom *** Muhahahahaha... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!!
Steve, Your Dad sounds like he's related to mine! I spent one LONG summer with a idiot stick (shovel ) in my hands. The first day I thought I figured it out, a month later I wanted nothing to do with farming, by three months, I just wanted tonever mind. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!! That sounds an awful lot like a conversation I would have had with my dad years ago and a letter he would have stood over me to make sure was said with proper apologetic attitude. Soon after I would be out in the pig barn scraping the walls with a putty knife since it appeared I had way too much time on my hand and needed time to think how to be more productive with my life. (Whao flash back ) Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 1:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!! When we forward copyright notices from the entertainment industry lawyers to our customers who download illegally-obtained movies, we get a variety of responses from our customers, ranging from none at all, shocked, angry, understanding, etc. This takes the cake...DEFINITELY my favorite...gettin a little wrist-slap from dad... (names have been changed to protect the guilty)... *** Hello this is Taylor Wisdom, Bill Wisdom's son. My father just informed me of an email he received from UnwiredWest via Mark Nash regarding the downloading of a film which violated copy infringement laws. The was labeled Takers. I did download the film Takers from a bit torrent website and have since then deleted the film and any programs affiliated with them. This sort of copyright infringement will not happen again. I do apologize for the inconvenience. Sincerely, Taylor Wisdom *** Muhahahahaha... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail
Agreed, everyone gets different photo and messages depending who their associated to. it would probably drive the squid nuts, especially when FB is busy and slow and squid is trying to compare. BTW, Watch out on not controlling the upload, one sub ftp'ing out or P2P could kill your full download. I'm guessing, but, you are probably only 1/2 duplex. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 11:08 AM To: wil...@optimumwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail Could be your squid cache. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 25, 2010, at 12:28 PM, Optimum Wireless Services wil...@optimumwireless.com wrote: Travis, thanks for replying. I first thought I didn't have enough bandwidth but, I have three 5meg lines. Previously I only had 2 and things were worst. After adding the additional line things got better but, not really good. Our three lines are connected to tp-link load balancer then to our gw running debian which throttles user's bandwithd at 512kbps download, not able to throttle upload bw yet. Also this gw is running squid for cache. You still think I need to add another line? On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 07:42 -0700, Travis Johnson wrote: I would guess you are running out of bandwidth. 5meg isn't much for 120 customers, especially since most of them are probably trying to use it at nearly the same time (6:00PM - 10:00PM). Travis Microserv On 11/25/2010 6:45 AM, Optimum Wireless Services wrote: Hello. Lately my customers have been experiencing problems accessing facebook and hotmail. They claim they can't access their email on hotmail after entering their credentials and can't see pictures and other people's profile on facebook. Don't know if is our network or what. We have 3 5mbps/1mbps dsl lines that really give us 4.5/800. We have about 120 customers and have complained so much about it that is already getting on me. Just wanted to know if any of you have experienced problems with these two websites. Thanks in advanced. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Printer recommendations
Agreed! Epson's have to be used daily, their ink caps are terrible. hp lasers are dirty, construction site, dairy barn compatible. See a guy with something sticking to his boots, get him a laser jet 2200dn, full duplex, not fast but never stops, drum comes with toner. it can be in standby for a month in a barn and still spit out pages will no jams. like the Uzi of printers! for color, HP photo smart 7250, it will have a paper jam on the second to last sheet, don't let it run low on paper. problem cured. high cost of ink solved at ink4print, Amazon, order below to prove costs I bought 13 VERY HIGH CAPACITY cartridges for less than one at Costco! Good ink too! So far no clogs or throwaways. Now I print a lot more color, it became cheaper than black!!! Shipping Method:Standard Shipping Preference:Group my items into as few shipments as possible Subtotal of Items: $18.98 Shipping Handling:$5.48 -- Total for this Order: $24.46 Delivery estimate: August 30, 2010 - September 2, 2010 Shipping estimate for these items: August 25, 2010 - August 26, 2010 1 13-Pack HP 02 Compatible Ink Cartridges 3-BLACK, 2 CYAN, 2 MAGENTA, 2 YELLOW, 2 LIGHT CYAN, 2 LIGHT MAGENTA for Photo smart D7360 D7460 8250 D7260 D7160 C5180 C6180 C6280 C7180 C7280 C8180 $18.98 Sold by: ink4print -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Curtis Maurand Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 11:54 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Printer recommendations Stick with HP. Go with Laser. Try to go with something in the 2000 or 3000 series if you can. They just get it done. --Curtis On 11/23/2010 9:01 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: I've used HP OfficeJets for most of the previous decade. I've used HP printers period for... 20 years? However, the OfficeJets continue to have paper handling and other issues. They are used far less than their service duty allows. I also have a problem with the printer disappearing on some computers. I was recommended to Dell all in one printers, but their user interface for the scanning, faxing, etc. features is horrible. I need something that works, does copy, fax, scan, print, and is easy enough for non-techies to use. Recommendations? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5 gig antennas
I have also been looking for a wide band omni, 5.x like 5.1 to 5.9 apx, where did they go? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 10:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 5 gig antennas Hi All, I need a 5 gig omni. 8 or 9 dB. I've got one from Winncomm but I don't like it much. The mount seems to place the raydome below the mounting bracket etc. What are folks using and where do you get them? Got a new 5 gig tower that's running about 12dB or so below calculated signal levels. thanks, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Remote Controlled Drone
Well has any body tested one of these yet? How's the camera res? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 4:49 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Remote Controlled Drone Let us all know how that works out for you. Key things I noticed when I read the FAQ, 1. the range will be greater if the AR drone is used in wide-open space with few Wi-Fi waves. Now, I am not a great technical wizard, but won't the majority of users from the WISPA mailing list have some of those pesky Wi-Fi waves kicking around? 2. the AR.Drone can maintain STABLE FLIGHT (emphasis added by me) at a height of up to 6 meters / 20 feet. Now, Stable flight would be kind of important when doing anything other than using it as a fun toy I would imagine. I don't see many water tanks under 20 feet - and if I did I carry a ladder. All I was trying to do was get a bit more info out there on the thing, it looks like a GREAT toy, and I am thinking about ordering one just to play around with, but to expect it to be a dependable tool in your toolbox? Buyer beware. They put plenty of warnings in the information on the manufacturers web page, (which is what I posted) so don't expect STABLE FLIGHT more than that 20 feet up, and be pleasently surprised if you get more than the 20 feet. ? What is the range of the AR.Drone? The range of the AR.Drone depends on the environment in which it is being used: the range will be greater if the AR.Drone is used in a wide-open space with few Wi-Fi waves. For information, the average range is 50 meters / 160 feet. ? How high can the AR.Drone fly? Thanks to its many sensors, the AR.Drone can maintain stable flight at a height of up to 6 meters / 20 feet. Since the altitude at which the AR.Drone can fly depends exclusively on the Wi-Fi range, it can fly up to a height of 50 meters / 160 feet. The Altitude limited option in the AR.Drone's settings can be adjusted to restrict the height to 3 meters / 10 feet. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:03 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Remote Controlled Drone Most water tanks are less than 160', so it would work fine for that. On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com wrote: http://ardrone.parrot.com/parrot-ar-drone/uk/support/questions-answers Going to have to be a short tower. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 7:21 PM Subject: [WISPA] Remote Controlled Drone I have no idea if this would be on any use to anyone, but it seems like it might save a tower climb somewhere. http://www.brookstone.com/ar-drone-quadricopter.html?bkiid=hmpg|hdr|652479p You can remote control it with an iPhone and it has a camera. John WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS
Image stream, excellent price and support -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kristian Hoffmann Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 5:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS On Tue, 2010-11-02 at 18:52 -0500, Scott Lambert wrote: I still need to try a Vyatta system. I loathe the idea of managing a *nix distro on a router (which is why we use RouterOS now). Apparently I've had too much Tik-aid, because I had completely forgotten about Vyatta and similar options. I have a SuperMicro 5015A-H (Atom 330 dual-core) coming in tomorrow. I'm going to try RouterOS and Vyatta and see how BGP responds on each with a single feed. If anyone else has an x86-based distro they'd like to see performance on, let me know. And thanks for all the responses. The information has been very helpful. Unfortunately, the conclusion I came to is I have no idea what I'm going to do. Cisco = $$$ and MikroTik = coin flip. Hopefully Vyatta lands somewhere in the middle. Thanks, -Kristian WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment
Come on Josh, get a couple of land marks from Google Earth, that takes care of left and right, and Google Earth tells you altitude at the base of each plus your height, now it's just up or down from level, a few turns. Google is your friend! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 10:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment I just filled a printer page with trig figuring out hoe I'm going to place my projector. There are more uses then people think. On Oct 20, 2010 12:55 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote: YES LOL ;) Only once did I know of a a practical use for trig. A friend of mine was trying to make a cut pattern in sheet metal to make a cone. The cone had to fit a certain size at the top and a certain size at the bottom. The cone was a pivotal part of his home brewing system. He is the kind of guy who can buy this stuff pre-made but preferred to do it himself. I don't have that kind of time on my hands, I just buy the stuff. Though he is a bit prouder of HIS homebrew system than I am, and that's the difference. Nobody else who opens my fridge knows, though. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 9:16 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment Am I the only one that uses Trigonometry for vertical alignment? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 permail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment
Well in my area if its e-w about a turn, n-s 2 or 3. But what do I know, Tim's doing the turning, I'm calling the signal levels to him. I'm the tower bender! :-) From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment So it's 50 foot higher and 10 miles away...what angle is that? On Oct 20, 2010 1:38 PM, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com wrote: Come on Josh, get a couple of land marks from Google Earth, that takes care of left and right, and Google Earth tells you altitude at the base of each plus your height, now it's just up or down from level, a few turns. Google is your friend! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 10:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment I just filled a printer page with trig figuring out hoe I'm going to place my projector. There are more uses then people think. On Oct 20, 2010 12:55 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote: YES LOL ;) Only once did I know of a a practical use for trig. A friend of mine was trying to make a cut pattern in sheet metal to make a cone. The cone had to fit a certain size at the top and a certain size at the bottom. The cone was a pivotal part of his home brewing system. He is the kind of guy who can buy this stuff pre-made but preferred to do it himself. I don't have that kind of time on my hands, I just buy the stuff. Though he is a bit prouder of HIS homebrew system than I am, and that's the difference. Nobody else who opens my fridge knows, though. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 9:16 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment Am I the only one that uses Trigonometry for vertical alignment? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 permail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment
We have been using it a month or two, pretty slick app! you look at your camera and move around and your towers float in on the I Phone's screen, like right over the third tree in the orchard, etc. Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-Access, Inc. www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com Providing Broadband Internet Access to California's Rural Central Valley From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:43 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment The iphone has an app called wifi align, and we have been using it with pretty good results...can overlay your tower location via GPS onto your camera view. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: Yah.thought I was gonna see this a few days ago.grin Brad From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment Mike, replying offlist... On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Where is this app? :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 10/19/2010 11:20 AM, Cameron Crum wrote: WispMon Pro has a phone app that will tell you distance and bearing to any of the towers in your database from your current location and plot it for you on a map. We are toying with making the app available for a small price to the general public, but it will need some mods so you can enter your tower locations manually and store them in a local file/db on the phone. Hit me offlist if you are interested and we'll try to get it out quicker if there is a big show of hands. Regards, Cameron On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I've never put a dish up half together. I've always seen it done putting everything together then hoisting it up. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote: Actually not true in many cases. If the distance is really long beyond site, such as 20-30miles, I'd agree. But if say LOS within 10 miles or so on a clear day, its pretty easy. After our tech eye balls the alignment, I'll usually have the tech do a fine align just in case we can improve it. BUt 9 out of 10 times, it was not necessary and maybe we'll gain a half DB. The secret to aligning dishes is to look through the feed hole before the feed is screwed in. (for example PAC wireless parabolic dish). You then home in on the far side area aiming for, positionioned in cetner of hole, and make sure the Ring around the hole appears equal size all around to verify it is aligned. Because the hole has metal around it that has DEPTH, maybe 1/4-1/2 inch, you can see the depth of this inside surface all around the hole. As matter of fact, if we dont get our link budget acheieve and we need to trouble shoot why, we check cables first, because the odds of having a bad cable is higher than the tech getting the first alignment attempt wrong. Panels are harder to align, because looking from the side. Sure it can be harder to align a big dish with radome that does not have a removable feed. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA mailto:wireless@wispa.org General List Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment That's not realistically possible. You would have to be extraordinarily lucky to align that first dish without having any measurements. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote: (sent a message a few minutes ago but through strange indicators I think it may not have sent out...sorry if it's a double-post) I'm trying to have 1 crew and not do the 2nd trip to the first tower. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA mailto:wireless@wispa.org General List Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment You would need more people then. You can't align the dish without both radios being powered. You could do two 3 man crews, one at each site. Both install at the same time and they should finish around the same time frame. Align before coming down at all. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: It looks like for around $150 you could get binoculars with a built
Re: [WISPA] anyone know what this is about?
News max popped up with it but not too much of an explanation. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:56 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] anyone know what this is about? LOL... Seriously, I've not seen any mention of this anywhere on any of the wireless sites, nor any other news site... So, my question... Does anyone know anything about this? I'm thinking that just about every telecom/internet/isp/voip/etc engaged entity should be on high alert to head this off at the pass, so to speak. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ From: RickG mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:39 AM To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] anyone know what this is about? They'll call it the obama-air bill. On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:35 AM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/19/us/19wiretap.html?_r=1 Quote: An Obama administration task force that includes officials from the Justice and Commerce Departments, the http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/f/federal _bureau_of_investigation/index.html?inline=nyt-org F.B.I.and other agencies recently began working on draft legislation to strengthen and expand the Communications Assistance to Law Enforcement Act, a 1994 law that says telephone and broadband companies must design their services so that they can begin conducting surveillance of a target immediately after being presented with a court order. There is not yet agreement over the details, according to officials familiar with the deliberations, but they said the administration intends to submit a package to Congress next year. Another quote: Another proposal would create an incentive for companies to show new systems to the F.B.I. before deployment. Under the plan, an agreement with the bureau certifying that the system is acceptable would be an alternative safe harbor, ensuring the firm could not be fined. I am obviously not being... anything other that correct to say People, this is serious... You can't deploy anything new until the government approves of it, or face massive liability for fines and fees? ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT repeater
You mean like open mesh with picos? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 4:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT repeater I think the OpenWRT image will do that, but the stock firmware will not. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 4:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT repeater Yeah, not that either. I must have dreamt there was a way to use UBNT gear as a repeater/extender. Greg On Oct 12, 2010, at 10:23 PM, RickG wrote: Not looking good for this: http://ubnt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24089 http://ubnt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24089highlight=repeater highlight=repeater On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: I remember (I think) reading on this forum about how to use a UBNT radio as a repeater (not WDS) by leaving the SSID blank and choosing Station mode. Can anyone tell me how to do that? I'm near an open network (no encryption) and I have permission to extend it. Can't do WDS, the existing AP doesn't support it. Thanks! Greg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anything is faster than DSL in Australia
I'm not a complete idiot -- Some parts are just missing. :-}) From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 9:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anything is faster than DSL in Australia OK, first thought: This makes the higher speeds of wireless look great as I could easily beat the DSL upload time. Second thought, carrier pigeons average abut 30mph (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_fast_can_a_pigeon_fly). So, 132km=82 miles. That 80mph! Did I miss something? *** Since it's Friday: A mother pigeon and a baby pigeon were going to race together. But baby pigeon said, I can't make it; I'll get too tired. His mother said, Don't worry; I'll tie a piece of string to one of your legs and the other end to mine. The baby started to cry. What's wrong? said the mother. I don't want to be pigeon towed! On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 12:24 AM, Francois Menard fmen...@xittel.net wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci2bFFGM8T8 And the winner has wings. F. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Weather Sensors
try Oregon Scientific Full Weather Station WMR80 / WMR80A I think one of these has a Ethernet port From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 11:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Weather Sensors I am looking for inexpensive, network aware weather sensors... Maybe temp, wind speed and wind direction to start. Other data would be useful as well. I want to put these on my towers and then aggregate the data on our webpage. Ideas? This is a small project and it can't go much over $100-200 per location. Blair WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bil-Jax Boom Lift
Robert, A boom truck will pay for itself quickly in: #1- MANY install's you never thought you would get, #2 Roof liability #3 survey work #4 safety ladder comp claims. We started with a old 40 footer, then after recognizing their value, we went to a 85 foot bucket / sign Crain truck, with bucket controls. If there is no other way to access the work, we charge a $25.00 boom truck fee. You can call it a fuel surcharge or whatever, but no one balks at the 25, but they do start griping at around 40-50 :-) Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-Access, Inc. www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com Providing Broadband Internet Access to California's Rural Central Valley From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 1:37 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Bil-Jax Boom Lift Has anyone used or owned a Bil-Jax Towable Boom Lift? Been looking.. Can't afford a decent boom truck so the economics work for one of these boom lift trailers. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. 740-335-7020 Logo5 image001.gif WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wind Turbines
Come on Mike, on windy days ask them to turn them off.. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 9:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wind Turbines They just built a 151 turbine farm in my area. No effect from what I can tell, but it's sort of on the fringe of my coverage. There are a couple other WISPA members in my area, but I don't think they're on this list. Might want to ask on the members list as well. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/11/2010 5:43 PM, ~NGL~ wrote: Anyone have experience with a wind farm coming into their area. They are planning on 29 wind turbines about 8 miles from my tower. Should I panic and raise objections or what. Thanx NGL WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bil-Jax Boom Lift
what is this safety blanket thingy? If it's what I think it is, it's called life line and dial up around here. Bell and ATT get big bucks for that! By by broadband. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 7:50 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bil-Jax Boom Lift I hear ya, but I have that upfront cost that kills me. I'm with the bottom line (and the women/coven/ at home) I have to deal with. Just had to respond to the typical Safety Blanket email from the woman just moments ago *sigh* Anyone else have to deal with this female safety blanket b.s.? Dunno- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Profito Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 7:05 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bil-Jax Boom Lift Robert, A boom truck will pay for itself quickly in: #1- MANY install's you never thought you would get, #2 Roof liability #3 survey work #4 safety ladder comp claims. We started with a old 40 footer, then after recognizing their value, we went to a 85 foot bucket / sign Crain truck, with bucket controls. If there is no other way to access the work, we charge a $25.00 boom truck fee. You can call it a fuel surcharge or whatever, but no one balks at the 25, but they do start griping at around 40-50 :-) Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-Access, Inc. www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com Providing Broadband Internet Access to California's Rural Central Valley From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 1:37 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Bil-Jax Boom Lift Has anyone used or owned a Bil-Jax Towable Boom Lift? Been looking.. Can't afford a decent boom truck so the economics work for one of these boom lift trailers. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. 740-335-7020 Logo5 image001.gif WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Powerbridge M5 versus Nanobridge M5 ?
Tupperware -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 9:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powerbridge M5 versus Nanobridge M5 ? Does anyone make a radome for the NB? I am thinking I have a unit or two that could use one due to back tilt or facing the predominate winter storm path. While I bet nothing would build up for long, it might be long enough to be a issue. On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: Sorry, wrong issue... Regards, Chuck On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Eje and Mike Ford both posted the differences between the two units and where to use them. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/9/2010 9:05 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: I did not see a resolution, did I miss it? Regards, Chuck On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Just had this discussion on the UBNT list a day or two ago, complete with UBNT input. http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/ubnt_users/2010-September/thread.html - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/8/2010 10:52 PM, Francois Menard wrote: I fear winter coming, and I have a location where a nanobridge M5 was used ? Any experience with ice build-up on a nanobridge without a radome ? I suppose this is the main reason for choosing a power bridge M5 and paying the additional 200+$ per end. Opinion ? F. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers
ROUND UP + Air Plane = thousands in savings and pre made towers ;-) From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scottie Arnett Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 3:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers No it's not...I didn't mean it that way. At least there are some mountains or something to wirelessly backhaul to another place. Where I am at it's just hills and hills and then some more hills. The hills usually run in an average of height of 100' - 300' of each other. Once you find a way to go 20 miles you hit another hill thats 300' higher than you were. So you either build a 1000' tower and hope for the best or you put up 10 towers to go 50 miles, either get VERY expensive. Scottie - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 6:28 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers Idaho isn't exactly a booming metropolis. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/2/2010 11:16 PM, Scottie Arnett wrote: Consider yourself lucky...in the REAL rural areas we pay over $1000/mth for 6 meg connections. Scott - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson mailto:t...@ida.net To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers I have two OC-3 connections (155Mbps) and one OC-12 connection (620Mbps)... and even at those levels, I still average $50/meg as my hard cost. I am selling 10Mbps x 10Mbps dedicated connections to businesses and schools, etc. for $500/month. Travis Microserv On 9/1/2010 5:34 PM, Mike wrote: I too would love to know that formula. I doubt if it would work in rural Tama County Iowa. Most businesses are agribusiness (i.e. farmers) and I already have most of them in my footprint. My biggest obstacle right now is finding cheap bandwidth. So even a statement that bandwidth is cheap right now does not apply to me. Friendly Regards, Mike _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 6:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers I wish I had $500/mth business customers to sign up everyday! Regards, Chuck On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: Been there, done ALL of that. Not worth the headaches. Bandwidth is CHEAP now... time is still the most valuable thing in this business... I can spend hours messing, tweaking, fighting, adjusting, etc. a cache proxy, or in that same amount of time I can go install a business connection for $500/month and pay for ANY additional bandwidth it may save me. And I can do this every day. :) Travis Microserv On 9/1/2010 2:29 PM, Blake Covarrubias wrote: On Sep 1, 2010, at 5:14 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: Yes, but the bandwidth savings are not worth the headaches (another box or two to maintain, some sites don't like to be cached, customer support calls, web sites blocking a certain IP address because ALL the traffic from your network is coming from the cache server IP, etc.). Its possible to prevent Squid from caching certain sites. Just create an ACL to deny caching them. Still too much to maintain? Deny caching all content by default, then create an ACL which only allows caching of sites you choose. If you don't want your proxy requests sourced from a single IP then use TProxy (http://wiki.squid-cache.org/Features/Tproxy4). With this your proxy can be fully transparent appearing as if the requests were sourced directly from a client instead of your Squid box. Get a Cisco router and redirect traffic to Squid using WCCP. If your Squid box dies the router automatically stops redirecting the traffic, and your users continue to surf the web normally. -- Blake Covarrubias WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
[WISPA] The Big Dog Talks
ATT: Net rules must allow 'paid prioritization' by Declan McCullagh ATT said Tuesday that any Net neutrality plan restricting its ability to engage in paid prioritization of network traffic would be harmful and contrary to the fundamental principles of the Internet. Telecommunications providers need the ability to set different prices for different forms of Internet service, ATT said, adding that it already has hundreds of customers who have paid extra for higher-priority services. Our view is that if the Federal Communications Commission is going to be making policy decisions on this front, it should base them on the facts, as opposed to dogma, an ATT representative told CNET on Tuesday. In a blog post, ATT vice president Hank Hultquist argued that the Internet Engineering Task Force's specifications specifically permit paid prioritization. The flap over paid prioritization started a few weeks ago when Free Press, a pro-regulatory advocacy group, sent letters (No. 1 and No. 2) to the FCC dubbing the concept discriminatory and claiming it will only benefit the few content giants that have deep enough pockets to pay for favorable treatment. In a telephone interview on Tuesday, Free Press research director Derek Turner said that allowing paid prioritization would undercut the entire concept of Net neutrality, which had its previous legal foundation swept away earlier this year when a federal appeals court shot down the FCC's attempt to punish Comcast for temporarily throttling BitTorrent transfers. Since that ruling, liberal interest groups have been lobbying FCC chairman Julius Genachowski for a new set of regulations, while a majority of members of the U.S. Congress has opposed the idea. Google and Verizon responded by announcing their own proposal, which includes a presumption that paid prioritization on wired networks is illegal. A ban on paid prioritization is the DNA of the open Internet, Turner said. He called ATT's arguments a straw man, saying that: What ATT is describing is a practice that we have no problem with, which is that an end user can buy a T1 and set priority flags, and ATT respects those priority flags. Prioritization 'expected' But the designers of the protocols that make up the modern Internet had something a bit more ambitious in mind. In the late 1990s, the Internet Engineering Task Force revised those standards to allow network operators to assign up to 64 different traffic classes, meaning priority levels. Free Press wants to force consumers to be charged higher rates to pay for the construction of more broadband infrastructure than would be needed if networks could be better managed, says Berin Szoka, a senior fellow at the Progress and Freedom Foundation, which has been critical of new broadband regulations. A July 1999 IETF specification (RFC 2638) discusses paid prioritization by saying: It is expected that premium traffic would be allocated a small percentage of the total network capacity, but that it would be priced much higher. Another specification (RFC 2475) published half a year earlier says that setting different priorities for packets will accommodate heterogeneous application requirements and user expectations and permit differentiated pricing of Internet service. Today that concept of differentiated services is referred to as DiffServ. It's part of quality-of-service technologies that companies like ATT offer, usually to business customers, that rely on DiffServ packet headers to group different types of classes of service together. Real-time voice communication may be ranked the highest, followed by financial transactions, then e-mail, and finally bulk file-transfer protocols that aren't as sensitive to brief slowdowns. It's true that DiffServ markings are typically used inside corporate networks to support applications like VoIP. But a video-conferencing site that has connectivity through ATT could presumably use DiffServ to prioritize its packets over, say, online shopping and BitTorrent transfers--and keep that priority all the way to an ATT home customer. Which is precisely the argument that ATT is making. In a strongly-worded letter (PDF) sent Monday to the FCC, ATT says that the protocol specification in no way limits the use of DiffServ to packets marked by 'end users,' as opposed to content providers or network operators. The (FCC) should view with healthy skepticism the opinions it receives on technical Internet matters from an advocacy group with no demonstrable expertise or operational experience in those matters, ATT's letter says. Paid prioritization over Internet access is not, as Free Press maintains, some lurking future menace that would pervert the intent of the IETF. To the contrary, it was fully contemplated by the IETF. Free Press' Turner disagrees. DiffServ was not designed to be a tool to allow the network provider to drive application-level discrimination, he says. He says that his organization will send a letter to the
Re: [WISPA] UPS with IP
Tom, that $40 SBC should be a old CB3 from the junk pile. We now call them power pingers From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 8:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UPS with IP Its tough to find Low cost DC inverter equipment that supports built-in IP. Triplite makes an excellent line of Inverters, and they are affordable. (come in 12v mailto:1...@v , 24V, and 48V), and can handle high amerage charging and near unlimited load. The problem is that these do NOT support IP type intelligence. There is a physical port that can show some INverter detail, such as when running on battery or not. But this is a physical port that basically send voltage over one of the pins to state the condition. It actually has a remote physical LED block that can plug into that port. IF someone took the time, they could make an adapter to connect that port to a computers or SBC's serial or parallel port and write a small program to read the pin voltage (on or off), and then use the SBC's SNMP or something to enable the power state to be polled. ONe way to get data on power outages is to plug a small $40 SBC bypassing the Batteries directly to the AC, then if that device is no longer pingable, you know no power is there. Anyway, I use the Triplites now, but I as well, am looking for something of similar spec quality that has IP built-in, to simplify and improve remote monitoring. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: David Sovereen mailto:david.sover...@mercury.net To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] UPS with IP With nearly all of our equipment being 24V DC, is anyone running their sites off of batteries connected to an AC battery charger? I'm envisioning something like a solar setup, but instead of using solar panels to charge the batteries, you use an AC-powered battery charger. This would eliminate the AC to DC to AC to DC conversion that a typical UPS setup would introduce, making the efficiency far better and the run-times far longer. I'm thinking I would like to do this (I need to revamp our UPSes everywhere anyway) but am not sure of what pieces and parts I need or if this is a terrible idea that I should run away from. Dave == MERCURY NETWORK CORPORATION David Sovereen 989-837-3790 x 151 On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 1:16 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Sadly. My last UPS I built was from parts pulled outta the dumpster behind the local defunct Gold Star Chili Store. Salvaged the EXIT sign. 2 6v batteries and charging/switch board. I live a strange life. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul Gerstenberger Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 1:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UPS with IP I second this. We had been using Belkin consumer UPS' because of their physical dimensions, but we've been changing them out for APC 750 and 1500s with SNMP where ever we reasonably can. Get ours new through Ingram Micro. -Paul On Aug 18, 2010, at 3:43 PM, Mark Nash wrote: I usually buy APC SmartUPS 1500KVA, used on ebay with SNMP card AP9617...this card emails you if the UPS goes on battery. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 1702 W. 2nd Ave Suite A Eugene, OR 97402 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com http://www.unwiredwest.com/ - Original Message - From: Steve Barnes To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 1:51 PM Subject: [WISPA] UPS with IP I am looking for a 1500VA ups with IP control that wont kill me with the price. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Close range radio recommendation
Then you have to have two, client and ap . if you are only going thru say one wall, how about a single ruckus, the packman one. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Close range radio recommendation The Nanos have a hard time adjusting power down that far, though. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/30/2010 11:38 AM, RickG wrote: You didnt mention if clear LOS or not. If so, Nanostation2. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: Need something that will go a very short distance (less than 150') with power that's able to adjust down to where it doesn't burn up radios. Has to mount outside, and no, there's no way to run Ethernet or fiber in this situation. Bandwidth is not that big of a deal - 3-6meg will be more than enough. Need only for VoIP traffic between two buildings. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Close range radio recommendation
2 Picos then From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:30 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Close range radio recommendation Wall shot is not workable either. These are old buildings that 2.4 does not penetrate at all (and 900 is out of the question) - we've already tried because the cable runs are just a real big pain!! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Profito Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 12:24 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Close range radio recommendation Then you have to have two, client and ap . if you are only going thru say one wall, how about a single ruckus, the packman one. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Close range radio recommendation The Nanos have a hard time adjusting power down that far, though. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/30/2010 11:38 AM, RickG wrote: You didnt mention if clear LOS or not. If so, Nanostation2. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: Need something that will go a very short distance (less than 150') with power that's able to adjust down to where it doesn't burn up radios. Has to mount outside, and no, there's no way to run Ethernet or fiber in this situation. Bandwidth is not that big of a deal - 3-6meg will be more than enough. Need only for VoIP traffic between two buildings. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DC Remote reboot?
http://www.digital-loggers.com/din.html From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Justin Wilson Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 10:03 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] DC Remote reboot? Does anyone know of a product which is a POE power supply in addition to having remote reboot capabilities? Imagine this scenario. You have DC running up a 400 foot tower. You have a DCV switch at the top with DC POE's. The switch is not POE but external POEs plugged into a distribution block. In otherwords there is no AC running up the tower. Are there any devices which can interrupt the DC power via remote management to reboot a single device? Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog - xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw - Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting - Tower Climbing - Network Support WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] No broadband? No problem
THAT LAST PARAGRAPH IS SO TRUE, ESPECIALLY HERE ON THE LEFT COAST! Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-Access, Inc. www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com Providing Broadband Internet Access to California's Rural Central Valley -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 9:29 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] No broadband? No problem No broadband? No problem http://connectedplanetonline.com/commentary/no-broadband-no-problem-081610/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] M series ubnt products
BORG fish , MESHED with iNet? Ingenious! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 10:10 AM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] M series ubnt products I thought something was fishy there! http://afsjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1577/1548-8675%282001%29021%3C0236%3AMBOIA E%3E2.0.CO%3B2?journalCode=fima On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: hehe... typo bunt = ubnt :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 8/9/2010 12:05 PM, RickG wrote: Bench test is always good! bunt antenna??? On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: You have not provided much technical detail... For best effect I would use rocket M and not bullet...and use the bunt antennas Did you test your setup in the lab? If yes ...then you old be having signal issues...(ap antenna till issue ?)if no..then you could be having settings issues in addition to signal issues... Keep in mind bullets are 1x1 Mimo..will do about 65x65mpbs in 20Mhz channelwhich would mean about 35-40Mbps tcp throughput about right. Faisal On Aug 9, 2010, at 4:42 AM, Jide Ayodele oayod...@taralos.metrong.com wrote: Hello All, I just set up a new POP for base station. This base station has the tallest tower mast of about 100 meters. I installed two APs- bullet M5 with 90 degrees base station antenna each. Each facing different directions. I have about 15 customers I want to migrate to the new base station. The farthest customer to the base station is about 3 km from the APs. I planned installing Loco M5 for closer clients and NS M5 for farther clients. I installed Loco M5 for three close customers of about less than 1 km to the base station. Every other customer is about 1km and above and installing Loco M5 has not been successful with them also, I tried NS M5 in one of the locations(about 2 km away from the AP)but no success. A total speed test of 36Mbps from customer location with rx of about 10 Mbps and tx of 26Mbps. May I request for you technical support. I still plan to install more and completely migrate all my clients to ubiquity products. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] A Big Microsoft Tuesday
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1726870/microsoft-plans-mega-patch-tuesday Microsoft plans a mega-patch Tuesday This cycle never ends By Edward http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/flame_author/1726870/microsoft-plans-mega-patch-tuesday Berridge Fri Aug 06 2010, 09:53 SOFTWARE COBBLER Microsoft plans to send out a record batch of 14 security updates next week to patch 34 vulnerabilities in Windows, Internet Explorer (IE), Office and Silverlight. Eight of the 14 software updates are ranked as critical while the remaining six are marked as important. The count of 34 individual patches equals the monthly record, which was first set last October and repeated in June 2010. Since eight of these are called critical that matches the previous record that the Vole set in October 2009. It seems that the larger Microsoft updates are landing in even-numbered months and the smaller ones in odd numbered months. Thus we have the impression that patches are being sent out in numbers and on schedules that suit Microsoft's spinners in its PR department rather than its developers or customers. According to Microsoft's monthly advance notification http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms10-aug.mspx , the company will deliver 10 updates for Windows, half of them critical and the other five rated important. Two updates will patch one or more critical bugs in IE and Silverlight, while another pair will fix bugs in Microsoft Office. All versions of Windows are involved, with Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3) being the oldest to get a fix. Windows XP is affected by all five Windows-only critical updates, as well as by the critical Internet Exploder and Silverlight fixes. Windows 7 is not completely unscathed either. Two of the five critical Windows updates apply to the Vole's newest operating system, as do the critical IE and Silverlight patches. All up Windows 7 will receive at least 10 of the 14 planned updates. So much for being a superior operating system. The Office updates are aimed at flaws in Word and Excel. Both updates also apply to the Mac editions of Word and Excel, even though Mac OS X is supposedly the most secure operating system in the world and never has a problem with malware. µ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] XBOX live, NAT, and UPnP
For residential we charge 10 per month too, Business is included in the monthly billing... Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-Access, Inc. www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com Providing Broadband Internet Access to California's Rural Central Valley -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 5:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] XBOX live, NAT, and UPnP BellSouth (ATT) charges $10. On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 7:27 PM, John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com wrote: And if I were your client, and you told me $10 for an IP address, I would find a new ISP. The most I have ever seen charged was $5 a month. John Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: Everything i keep coming up with to make this work ideal according to the customer is Im gonna have to sell them a public ip for $10/month *grins* and then make sure their CPE is in bridge mode and assign that static to the customers router so they can enable UPnP themselves. -Kurt Fankhauser - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] XBOX live, NAT, and UPnP Don't the majority of us NAT at the customer SM? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Adam Kennedy adamkenn...@omnicity.net wrote: I would agree that it is a security hole for an ISP. UPnP would let me do my own forwards for just about any port I want, including SSH, telnet and web. For that matter, I could just be selfish and port map every port from 1024 through 65535 to my IP, completely killing access to anyone else. In an ISP environment, the best option really is to disable UPnP if you are doing NAT. -- Adam Kennedy Network Engineer Omnicity, Inc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 10:43 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] XBOX live, NAT, and UPnP Man that sucks. We turn off upnp on ALL routers. I've always been told that it's a big security hole. Thoughts on that? marlon - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 7:29 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] XBOX live, NAT, and UPnP I don't seem to have any issues with double or triple NAT. When I was working with MT to fix the upnp issue with Xboxes. I have it marked as 4.6 with modifications (it was an unofficial 4.6 they gave me) so I would say 4.7 or higher should enable Xbox upnp. Even this requires a public IP on the Mikrotik to remove even nice strict (I think it's called open?). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: So does anyone here have any customers that use XBOX live and bark to you about you NAT? Apparently the XBOX live service is very picky about being behind any NAT device and its ability to make connections to other servers. From what I gathered is that the LIVE service uses Universal Plug and Play (UPnP) to get around this but the question I have is. If your doing masquerade on a Mikrotik Core Router should you enable UPnP on that device? Or should I just issue public IP's to the customer that games and let them worry about it? And if you have UPnP enabled on the core router and then do a double-NAT through the customers Linksys router with UPnP enable does that not work because of the double-NAT? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe
Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting
http://www.digitalloggers.com/lpc.html This is the small one, there is a larger one, both have auto ping for off line rebooting. We have them on all ap / tower sites. They a have saved a trip up the hill many a night! no monthly fee. Also, put a old CB-3 into the surge side of a battery backup and your network auto ping will know EXACTLY when the power goes down, and you know how long the batteries will last. Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-Access, Inc. www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com Providing Broadband Internet Access to California's Rural Central Valley -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:41 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting What are you guys doing for off-net rebooting? I know someone at WISPCON years back had a pager based system. I'm sure there are cellular based systems now, but I'm not sure how the cost compares. -- - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Suggestions on high-powered indoor CPEs?
RUCKUS DUAL ZONE -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 8:21 AM To: members; wireless Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Suggestions on high-powered indoor CPEs? Ruckus -Original Message- From: Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: 08 July 2010 15:24 To: memb...@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Suggestions on high-powered indoor CPEs? Ubiquiti products Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Martha Huizenga mar...@dcaccess.net wrote: Hi all, We are looking for suggestions on high-powered indoor CPE's. We have been using Eniginus products, but want to explore other options. Any suggestions? thanks Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet! Connecting the Capitol Hill Community Join us on Facebook or follow us on Twitter ___ WISPA Membership Mailing List --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Windows 7 - Is FIPS for DIPS?
Your answer is here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Security_Services#FIPS_140_validation_a nd_NISCC_testingits a crypto thingy -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 2:21 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Windows 7 - Is FIPS for DIPS? Customer called a few minutes ago asking if she should Enable FIPS on her Windows 7 net book. HUH? So I pull out one of our net books, go to Manage Wireless Connections, then view the connections properties then Advanced (Microsoft buries everything..) and there is a checkbox for Enabling Federal Information Processing Standards (FIPS). Dunno! I tell her it's not a big deal, just leave it. I'm not into the FIPS, even the acronym sounds stupid. I've read up on it a bit here the past few minutes, what's the point of all this FIPS? Is FIPS for DIPS? Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. 740-335-7020 Logo5 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP
We have some open spots. When tower usage spikes Tim starts looking. So when we see an obvious offender, like a mac logged on for 2 days, we just block him. if we get a complaint, we'll turn it back on, but 98 times out of 100, no complaints. Actually, Tim's batting 100% because I don't think we have ever had a complaint from those open spots, except the P2P won't run! ( Yeah, steeling is still steeling in our network. ) Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-Access, Inc. www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com Providing Broadband Internet Access to California's Rural Central Valley -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 6:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP Good lord are you mad?!?! No restaurant owner wants to do that massive amount of work... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: I was thinking about some way for the restaurant to identify the MAC addresses of the machines customers have in the restaurant (maybe a simple code 3 digit code would pop up on the customer's web browser, the restaurant operator could use that code to identify the MAC address and allow access. After 30 mins of no access the MAC address would get deauthorized. Greg On Jul 7, 2010, at 7:51 PM, Robert West wrote: Thinking outside the box, could there be an ever changing authorization code that would be posted maybe via Led sign inside the business offering g the free Wi-Fi? Code good for maybe an hour? I'm only an idea person. The rest is up to you... (Translation=Me Lazy) Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 2:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP Sounds fair Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 1:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP Gino, Can you maybe do a redirect page every hour or two? Simply state you're using free Gino internet please be sure you accept these terms of use then hit accept to keep using it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote: Exactly. Might as well deal with them and either stop them or annoy them. Either way they move on. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 12:34:30 -0400 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP Costs of stopping it are higher then doing a technical work around. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 ³Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.² --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote: WE have some restaurant chains with a free wifi for patrons, latest trend in our market is some Sat Guys selling a WIFI antenna for connecting Houses to Free WIFI Hotspots. Is that legal? Or is it state by state? Matt -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP
small change: Please contact YOUR SERVICE PROVIDER! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 7:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP A thought occurs... If you know what mac/IP are bad people then redirect them to a page that says: You're getting Internet illegally. Please contact your service provider. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: I think your only reasonable attempt with no support requirements is to cut the ack time. Anything else reduces the coverage inside the establishment or increases support. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 7/7/2010 10:16 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: Hey Gang Do anyone knows a equivalent of max range for a WIFI AP? Would the ACk parameter work? WE have some restaurant chains with a free wifi for patrons, latest trend in our market is some Sat Guys selling a WIFI antenna for connecting Houses to Free WIFI Hotspots.I would like to limi the range on the APs for half a mile or so Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] yet another WiMAX vs LTE article
No, i pretty sure they were all G's. We detune n to g anyway, they can be too powerful and will jam our own incoming signal if set in n mode. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rogelio Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 9:56 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] yet another WiMAX vs LTE article On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com wrote: Actually we have found Ruckus to do very well with multipath! i.e. boat docks, moving water, moving boats, moving rolled tin structure, generating killer multipath, kills EVERY OTHER ROUTER/AP EXCEPT RUCKUS. try it , you'll like it. Chuck, were these other radios 802.11n? I ask because pre 802.11n, multipath hurt the performance, as 802.11a/b/g were switched diversity (i.e. take the *best* signal and ignore the other ones). Now that the 802.11n standard has MRC, all of those signals are combined automagically (in theory, of course). So, yes...Ruckus has the reputation of making some kickass antennas to deal with multiplath, but I'm wondering if they can still maintain that edge now that the standard is solidified by IEEE. Put differently, how smart are their antennas now that the standard does a lot of what they were bragging about before? Is their secret sauce now simply a commodity? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] yet another WiMAX vs LTE article
Actually we have found Ruckus to do very well with multipath! i.e. boat docks, moving water, moving boats, moving rolled tin structure, generating killer multipath, kills EVERY OTHER ROUTER/AP EXCEPT RUCKUS. try it , you'll like it. Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-Access, Inc. www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com Providing Broadband Internet Access to California's Rural Central Valley -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 11:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] yet another WiMAX vs LTE article Since their beam forming is dynamic, I would expect it to work very well in that environment. As Ruckus beamforming is based on selecting a receiver instead of combining the signals, it should indeed deal with ducting but not too well with multi-path. No Beam forming is expected from Ubiquity... just MIMO... If Quantenna, Celeno or the other chip makers come up with a cost-effective 802.11n beamforming solution, and they claim they will, may be UBNT rethinks this issue. Rubens WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ClearWire
??? I know it was an old database #, so I tried it and got thru, I'm sure the ext tree is not past you. mcc -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 4:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ClearWire Smart ass - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 6/30/2010 12:03 AM, Chuck Profito wrote: Craig McCaw Craig McCaw Headquarters 2300 CARILLON POINT Kirkland Washington 98033 Telephone: (425) 216-7600 Toll Free: 800-305-5873 Fax: (425) 216-7900 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 6:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] ClearWire Does anyone have a non consumer-facing contact at ClearWire? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ClearWire
Craig McCaw Craig McCaw Headquarters 2300 CARILLON POINT Kirkland Washington 98033 Telephone: (425) 216-7600 Toll Free: 800-305-5873 Fax: (425) 216-7900 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 6:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] ClearWire Does anyone have a non consumer-facing contact at ClearWire? -- - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What are the Challenges?
How about a west coast regional 2 or 3 day WISPA cruise like SF to LA , or just Long Beach to Catalina -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 11:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] What are the Challenges? Robert, Are you on the Promotion Committee? These are all important inputs we need when we make decisions, it wasn't the board who decided, they followed the recommendations of the Promotion Committee. We have no intention of having another summer show, we have learned a lot in this our first show and that's one of them. You can join at http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/Promotion If you don't have the time that's fine it's a dent in my summer schedule too and I'm not just going for the two days, but no incentive I think not, there is a lot of benefit going to this meeting. I'm not sure asking what concerns there were was necessary unless to help people who needed help coming but to rehash minority views in a well documented series of surveys, webinars, and question/answer opportunities isn't productive, I hope to see you up front at our next attempt at this ongoing series. Thanks, Forbes Promotion Committee Chair On 6/27/2010 9:41 PM, Robert West wrote: We originally picked St. Louis With total and absolute respect for the board, we had an online discussion of where and why among all of us and St. Louis really wasn't in the mix. The timing is also weird because the summer, at least for me, is the busiest because the weather is damn best for fixing everything and getting new AP's installed. I'm working like hell to beat the snow. (Just got in from a new AP install) Get me in mid-January and I'll have plenty of time. Look at the volume of list postings and you'll understand. The winter gives us all lots of time to list post thus empty time in our schedules. Graph it out, you'll understand. Yeah, travel in the winter sucks. But I got's the time then! Besides... St. Louis? I went to the Dayton Hamvention, met some WISPA members, saw some great junk and spent some cash. Not to push Dayton (Dayton blows) but as we talked about before, a hook up with another similar event is the cool thing for me. No matter where it is. I really don't care where but the Hamvention is well known by a lot of WISPA Hams. Anyhow, just no time and no incentive in going. Ticket price and hotel price have no bearing on my lack of attending. Anyone with similar issues??? Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 3:28 PM To: memb...@wispa.org; 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] What are the Challenges? Members and WISP followers, We would like to better understand some of the challenges that many of you face on a daily basis as we continue to fine tune the Regional Meeting Agenda. As you know the 1st Regional Meeting is scheduled for July 21st and 22nd in St. Louis. We have been pleasantly surprised at the response we have received from vendors in our industry in committing to exhibit at our Regional Meeting. One thing we have noticed during the signup period is that many WISPs that are attending are traveling long distances to come to St. Louis in the first stages of signup. We originally picked St. Louis because of its central location in the US and because there are a tremendous amount of WISP companies throughout the Central US. We really anticipated that 70% of our attendees at this meeting would come from a 500 mile radius from St. Louis. This does not seem to be the case and we find ourselves wondering why this to be the case. My first inclination is to blame it on weather. I realize that weather in the Central US has been extremely volatile this summer with persistent storms continually moving across the region. I am asking if this is really the reason preventing many Midwestern WISPs from signing up for this meeting or not. If it is something else, I would like to investigate further. We believe it is our obligation to the Vendors who have committed staff, money and resources to attend the meeting, that we ask these tough questions. Our goal and the budget for the RM are based on a count of 200 attendees. We are pretty sure we will reach this goal but if we are not going to get there, we need to start preparing now. As you may or may not know, we do have a price increase of $50 per attendee beginning on July 1st. It would be silly of me not to point this out to any prospective attendees. This week, we were able to negotiate a much nicer hotel and meeting facilities at the Renaissance Hotel in St. Louis. The Renaissance actually lowered its room rate surprisingly to $79 per night and threw in free internet, parking and
Re: [WISPA] interference from ships
CAN THAT BE SOME FORM OF RADAR? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 12:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] interference from ships Possible but don't quit believe so since 900MHz GSM uses 890-914Mhz for uplink (cell to base station), and 921-960Mhz for download (basestation to cell). That strong signal wouldn't come from cells and the basestation would just ruin the top part of the frequency. Maritime cell systems I seen don't offer 3G type services and GSM gprs/edge channel size is 200khz. 4G will have 4 to 20MHz dynamic channel size. Would really need to verify that the signal for sure is coming from the ship and not somewhere else. If that is the case maybe look at getting hold of someone from the ship to check with them what it might be. Dont forget to shut down your own AP while you run the SA at the AP location to avoid false readings and make sure it's not actually something newly installed at that location. / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 1:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] interference from ships Plug the damn hole! - lol! Sorry, I couldnt help it :) Since it's a UK ship, I wonder if this has anything to do with it? http://www.eubusiness.com/topics/telecoms/mobile-ships.01/ On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 8:14 AM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote: We've got a 700' drilling ship moored about a mile off our coast for a few days for repairs. http://www.stena-drilling.com/sub.asp?m=drillingp=stenaforth Since it came in, 900mhz within a couple miles of it has stopped working. We went out with the spectrum analyser after the Alvarion software spectrum analyzer went off the charts. The HP spectrum analyzer with a 9dbi yagi was picking up big fat gaussian shaped signals at -20 to -25dbm about 10-15mhz wide in the middle. I sent my guys to a second location with the spectrum analyzer just to make sure they weren't seeing local interfernce and they saw the same thing. A legal amount of power output would cause it to come in at about -50. Anyone else seen such strange stuff coming from this type of ship? I've never seen any trouble from any ship ever, though this is the first drilling ship to visit our area. -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ | Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Maine http://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] interference from ships
there it is sub surface low freq radar Google and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-frequency_radar are our friends... -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 12:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] interference from ships Possible but don't quit believe so since 900MHz GSM uses 890-914Mhz for uplink (cell to base station), and 921-960Mhz for download (basestation to cell). That strong signal wouldn't come from cells and the basestation would just ruin the top part of the frequency. Maritime cell systems I seen don't offer 3G type services and GSM gprs/edge channel size is 200khz. 4G will have 4 to 20MHz dynamic channel size. Would really need to verify that the signal for sure is coming from the ship and not somewhere else. If that is the case maybe look at getting hold of someone from the ship to check with them what it might be. Dont forget to shut down your own AP while you run the SA at the AP location to avoid false readings and make sure it's not actually something newly installed at that location. / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 1:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] interference from ships Plug the damn hole! - lol! Sorry, I couldnt help it :) Since it's a UK ship, I wonder if this has anything to do with it? http://www.eubusiness.com/topics/telecoms/mobile-ships.01/ On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 8:14 AM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote: We've got a 700' drilling ship moored about a mile off our coast for a few days for repairs. http://www.stena-drilling.com/sub.asp?m=drillingp=stenaforth Since it came in, 900mhz within a couple miles of it has stopped working. We went out with the spectrum analyser after the Alvarion software spectrum analyzer went off the charts. The HP spectrum analyzer with a 9dbi yagi was picking up big fat gaussian shaped signals at -20 to -25dbm about 10-15mhz wide in the middle. I sent my guys to a second location with the spectrum analyzer just to make sure they weren't seeing local interfernce and they saw the same thing. A legal amount of power output would cause it to come in at about -50. Anyone else seen such strange stuff coming from this type of ship? I've never seen any trouble from any ship ever, though this is the first drilling ship to visit our area. -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ | Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Maine http://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] interference from ships
yes Greg, we used to think a Smart Bridge was the Cat's Meow then the CB3 came out! :-) Since that's an exploration drilling ship, I'll bet it's some sort of sub surface positioning radar/ sonar/ or some such, linked to the thrusters and gps to keep it on position. I wonder if it could be worse in the water? But a mile away, sideways, that would be a lot of water to penetrate with a side lobe, or even reflect. Could they call the harbor master and ask him to contact the Capt or 1st officer. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 4:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] interference from ships That's funny. That article claims that Below 900 MHz the target radar cross section increases exponentially, however the increased radar cross section means that there is much more radar return from undesirable sources, such as cloud cover and rain (cf. weather radar). but when I worked on ships we used S and X band radars. The S band (lower frequency) was better in the rain and usually had better range, but the X band gave more detailed and sharper images (such as a more accurate and realistic representation of the coastline, and a more accurate representation of the size of boats and ships) but it had more problems with rain clutter. I guess that's why Wikipedia is free. You get what you pay for. Greg On Jun 19, 2010, at 6:59 PM, Chuck Profito wrote: there it is sub surface low freq radar Google and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-frequency_radar are our friends... -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 12:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] interference from ships Possible but don't quit believe so since 900MHz GSM uses 890-914Mhz for uplink (cell to base station), and 921-960Mhz for download (basestation to cell). That strong signal wouldn't come from cells and the basestation would just ruin the top part of the frequency. Maritime cell systems I seen don't offer 3G type services and GSM gprs/edge channel size is 200khz. 4G will have 4 to 20MHz dynamic channel size. Would really need to verify that the signal for sure is coming from the ship and not somewhere else. If that is the case maybe look at getting hold of someone from the ship to check with them what it might be. Don't forget to shut down your own AP while you run the SA at the AP location to avoid false readings and make sure it's not actually something newly installed at that location. / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 1:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] interference from ships Plug the damn hole! - lol! Sorry, I couldnt help it :) Since it's a UK ship, I wonder if this has anything to do with it? http://www.eubusiness.com/topics/telecoms/mobile-ships.01/ On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 8:14 AM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote: We've got a 700' drilling ship moored about a mile off our coast for a few days for repairs. http://www.stena-drilling.com/sub.asp?m=drillingp=stenaforth Since it came in, 900mhz within a couple miles of it has stopped working. We went out with the spectrum analyser after the Alvarion software spectrum analyzer went off the charts. The HP spectrum analyzer with a 9dbi yagi was picking up big fat gaussian shaped signals at -20 to -25dbm about 10-15mhz wide in the middle. I sent my guys to a second location with the spectrum analyzer just to make sure they weren't seeing local interfernce and they saw the same thing. A legal amount of power output would cause it to come in at about -50. Anyone else seen such strange stuff coming from this type of ship? I've never seen any trouble from any ship ever, though this is the first drilling ship to visit our area. -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http
Re: [WISPA] NANOG49 presentation: Long Distance Wireless Network Deployment for Support on the Farallon Islands
Thank You Courtney, I noticed NANOG49 was sponsored by NETFLIX this year... What was the general opinion of them by the membership? And did they , NETFLIX, have any news or announcements? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Courtney Smith Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 12:06 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] NANOG49 presentation: Long Distance Wireless Network Deployment for Support on the Farallon Islands Thought some folks might be interested in this presentation given at NANOG meeting this week. *Abstract: * This presentation will address planning and deployment for a 50Km link between the City of San Francisco's fiber network and the Farallon Islands off the coast of San Francisco in support of the scientist on the islands and the California Academy of Sciences project to provide a high quality live streaming camera on site. The presentation will cover the requirements for a very limited budget and power consumption, issues of remote deployments, long distance microwave links over the ocean, sensitivity to the largest breeding colony the contiguous United States. Additional network topics will be the requirement to support various services on the island via VLANs, fiber deployment to overcome distance and lightning, RF path calculations, tuning of the radio modulations schemes to provide the best up-time and remote support of a location that may only be accessible once a month. http://nanog.org/meetings/nanog49/abstracts.php?pt=MTYwOCZuYW5vZzQ5nm=nanog 49 -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MicroTik HWMPplus mesh?
Look at one of our vendor members, higher cost than roll your own, but everything in one box, server, radius, etc., etc. It may prove to be a lower cost for a difficult start up and difficult area, leading to better customer satisfaction and word of mouth advertising, faster ROI and penetration. http://www.bluemesh.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Fred R. Goldstein Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 1:23 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] MicroTik HWMPplus mesh? First off, I'd like to say hello to the list. Mike Hammett pointed me at it a couple of weeks ago, after I posted a wireless-related question (wireless in the trees) at isp-clec, and he reposted it here. This list is a lot more active... I've been reading the past few months archives and it's really quite informative. I'm a consultant working with competitive service providers all over the place. I don't run a WISP but some clients do. I am working now with a startup that wants to serve some unserved (no cable or DSL, just long-loop POTS/dial-up) remote territory which is about to get middle mile service to the nearest city (year-round pop. 10,000, but it's big for the area) thanks to a stimulus grant. The unserved last mile area covers a strip about 5 to 30 miles from the backbone point. It's the RF environment from hell: Heavily wooded and hilly. The most valuable strip of land is a long narrow beachfront strip a block or so wide, with a palisade (steep wooded hill) blocking it from the rest of the area. Plus it's convex (curves out into the big lake) so your line of sight within the beachside strip is very small. So in most places on the waterfront there's not even cellular service, since the cell sites are over the rim. No WISP is crazy enough to go there. My clients and I, however, are unusually crazy... why else would we be in the communications business? Given that environment, there only way to get to most of the subscribers is via multiple hops. We'd come down to the beach in at least two points near the ends, maybe in the middle too, and build microwave rings. I don't see how this could work with any of the canned mesh solutions. Most, like SkyPilot, only mesh at 5.8 Ghz, and there are some paths that are just too woody for that to work. Some of the subscriber access sites may need 900 too. I think each RF path and local-coverage cell will have to be engineered to local conditions. What looks to be the most flexible approach might be to use the MicroTik Routerboard multi-radio mPCI systems. Then we can use off-the-shelf 5.8 GHz cards and PtP antennas for the clear paths, and plug in the Ubiquiti XR9 or similar high-power 900 radio for tree blasting. User access would probably be sectorized at whatever band works. MicroTik says they have a meshing protocol, HWMPplus, that provides Layer 2 (this is critical; we're not building a Layer 3 network, and with this many hops, latency and loss are critical) dynamic meshing, essentially applying a routing protocol (smarter than bridge STPs) among nodes. I can't find any documentation for it on line, though, and a distributor I've been talking to has never tried or sold it. So does anyone on the list have any experience with the HWMPplus mesh? Or any other suggestions? Thanks! -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] For Sale
Those are not used CB3's anymore, those are power pingers!!! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 12:59 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] For Sale I've got a bunch of stuff we are trying to get rid of that is left over in our warehouse after the sale: ~50 DSS style mounts - some with long arms, about 20 still in the box they were shipped to us in, another 10 or so that were never assembled and the rest are used. - $150 + shipping for all ~20 Tranzeo CPE's - mix of CPE-200-15, CPE-200-19, CPQ-200-15, and CPQ-200-19 - some work and some don't - $50 plus shipping for all of them ~50 Engenius CB3 + Deluxe radios - pre-deployed but just about every one still runs - $50 + shipping 1 Pac Wireless 2 ft soid dish with radome and 5 GHz feed - $25 + shipping 1 Pac Wireless 2ft solid dish NO radome and 5GHz feed. - $25 + shipping I've also got several Pac grids of different gains and frequencies. If anyone really want's these I can get more details on them. 1U NetEQ box (don't know which model but I'm guessing it is the 10MB version - came out of a wisp we took over) Missing Top cover because a lager fan was added to the heatsink - $250 + shipping Cisco 2600 with 2 T1 interfaces - $50 If you are anywhere near Fort Worth, you can come pick the stuff up, otherwise I'll ship to you via ups or fed-ex ground. Thanks, Cameron WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] GPS synced systems
GPS :-) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 9:20 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] GPS synced systems Other than Canopy, what systems also use GPS sync? -- - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?
probably a ruckus on the other end -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? This evening I was at one of my access points... one that has several backhauls and various 2.4 and 5 ghz ap's at it. After I was done with my few minutes of doing things, I wanted to make sure I had not physically disconnected or accidentally unhooked anything (messing with the batteries, checking water levels, etc).I pulled out a netbook. Acer Aspire One to be precise, running windows xp, using the normal wifi card it came with. I fired it up (it is set to any so it simply associates to the access points that are open at home, work, etc), and after I was done, noted it said it was connected, at which point I opened google on the browser to confirm connectivity. Google popped up, meaning things were connected, and then I decided to run a speed test. I got about 30KB/s speed, which is like painfully slow. I was standing outside, with the netbook sitting on the hood of my truck. So, I decided to see what it was associated to, and it was another access point ... 11 MILES AWAY! I confirmed it by the SSID and by the ip dhcp had assigned, as belonging to the ap 11 miles distant. It has no external antenna, just the one the factory built into the netbook. I have detected, using netstumbler and the internal antenna on my laptop (dell C610 and CM9 installed) access points over 24 miles away before, but this is the longest, by far, I have been able to get a real connection, dhcp assignment, and transfer data. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?
Forbes,but i digress. I know I started the wise a.. remarks, but yes you do! ;-) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 9:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? As a long ago CB'er I have to ask, can there be skip on the 2.4 range? :) Purrrdy soon we'll be yellin 'breaker' to some leeeneir driven AP just south of the border, streamin Wolfman Spam... but i digress. On 6/11/2010 10:16 PM, MDK wrote: This evening I was at one of my access points... one that has several backhauls and various 2.4 and 5 ghz ap's at it. After I was done with my few minutes of doing things, I wanted to make sure I had not physically disconnected or accidentally unhooked anything (messing with the batteries, checking water levels, etc).I pulled out a netbook. Acer Aspire One to be precise, running windows xp, using the normal wifi card it came with. I fired it up (it is set to any so it simply associates to the access points that are open at home, work, etc), and after I was done, noted it said it was connected, at which point I opened google on the browser to confirm connectivity. Google popped up, meaning things were connected, and then I decided to run a speed test. I got about 30KB/s speed, which is like painfully slow. I was standing outside, with the netbook sitting on the hood of my truck. So, I decided to see what it was associated to, and it was another access point ... 11 MILES AWAY! I confirmed it by the SSID and by the ip dhcp had assigned, as belonging to the ap 11 miles distant. It has no external antenna, just the one the factory built into the netbook. I have detected, using netstumbler and the internal antenna on my laptop (dell C610 and CM9 installed) access points over 24 miles away before, but this is the longest, by far, I have been able to get a real connection, dhcp assignment, and transfer data. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?
I stand corrected, dumbfounded and humbled. BTW how about a photo and spec on that our own design and manufacture slotted waveguide sector Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-Access, Inc. www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com Providing Broadband Internet Access to California's Rural Central Valley -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 10:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? NOT.All my access points are star-os based, and I use NO amps anywhere, and with the exception of one long point to point link, no high power cards, either. ( that link is now out of production, replaced by ubnt rocketm5 and solid dishes. ) netbook end, is whatever atheros based card it comes with, the access point is a WLM54SAG, not the high power version, and set at default output, connected to our own design and manufacture slotted waveguide sector. For many years, it was a CM9 at the AP, but last year it started behaving strange, and it got replaced. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 11:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? probably a ruckus on the other end -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? This evening I was at one of my access points... one that has several backhauls and various 2.4 and 5 ghz ap's at it. After I was done with my few minutes of doing things, I wanted to make sure I had not physically disconnected or accidentally unhooked anything (messing with the batteries, checking water levels, etc).I pulled out a netbook. Acer Aspire One to be precise, running windows xp, using the normal wifi card it came with. I fired it up (it is set to any so it simply associates to the access points that are open at home, work, etc), and after I was done, noted it said it was connected, at which point I opened google on the browser to confirm connectivity. Google popped up, meaning things were connected, and then I decided to run a speed test. I got about 30KB/s speed, which is like painfully slow. I was standing outside, with the netbook sitting on the hood of my truck. So, I decided to see what it was associated to, and it was another access point ... 11 MILES AWAY! I confirmed it by the SSID and by the ip dhcp had assigned, as belonging to the ap 11 miles distant. It has no external antenna, just the one the factory built into the netbook. I have detected, using netstumbler and the internal antenna on my laptop (dell C610 and CM9 installed) access points over 24 miles away before, but this is the longest, by far, I have been able to get a real connection, dhcp assignment, and transfer data. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ROS on x86 - Backup Everything (system, config, license)?
just where are you? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 8:08 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ROS on x86 - Backup Everything (system, config, license)? No Ginger, but if topless brown-skinned beauties floats your boat then you're in luck! On Jun 3, 2010, at 10:35 AM, D. Ryan Spott wrote: Then use 2 coconuts to produce a oh never mind! Is Ginger there? Cause if she is, I need to visit. ryan On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Because I'm in the Amazon jungle. No UPS, FedEx, USPS etc. It's like Gilligan's Island but we have satellite internet and a generator. Greg On Jun 3, 2010, at 10:26 AM, Steve Barnes wrote: Instead why not buy a $40 Hard drive. Leave the one in there with the MT ROS and if you ever have an issue pop the case, switch the cable and your ready to go. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 10:46 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ROS on x86 - Backup Everything (system, config, license)? Thanks! That's what I thought - anything that would do a byte for byte copy/image of the hard drive would work. Worst case scenario is I lose the license and have to buy another. Greg On Jun 3, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Philip Dorr wrote: If downtime is a option the you can boot the system of a live Linux distro and make a DD backup of the HDD. On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: I've googled and searched and can't find an answer to this. I posted to the MT forum, but I thought I'd try here too. Thanks! I would like to know if it's possible to back up the entire RouterOS install including the license on an x86 installation. I have a computer on which I was using for RouterOS but have swapped it out for an RB750. I want to use the computer for other things (perhaps Astaro or Untangle) but I don't want to lose the RouterOS license, and I would also like to have the computer ready to go back in service with RouterOS should the RB750 fail (I lost one to lightning before adding lightning protection). Understand I am not trying to pirate RouterOS or do anything which is contrary to the terms of the license. I just want to use the machine for something else, with the possibility of reverting back to RouterOS if the RB750 which replaced it should fail. If I didn't live in the jungle of South America I'd run down to Best Buy and pick up another SATA hard drive and use that for the other OS. But I only have one drive so I'm looking at imaging the drive with RouterOS on it and keep tha t image safe so I can use the hard drive for something else. Should this work? Any advice would be appreciated. Greg - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
[WISPA] You knew it was coming...
ATT will be redoing the pricing plans for I Phone and I Pad charging a fee plus overages. There's good news for existing iPad and iPhone users who feel that the new plans will cost them more: ATT said existing ATT customers -- including the 50 million iPhone and iPad users in the United States -- have the option of sticking with their old $30 unlimited plan. The Full story: http://money.cnn.com/2010/06/02/technology/att_iphone_ipad WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] apple TV its nearly here
http://xrl.in/5h8q or http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Web-Services-Web-20-and-SOA/Apple-TV-Will-Run-on-iP hone-OS-4-Cost-99-Rumors-104557/ HD DIRECT TO YOUR I PHONE OR TV OVER THE WEB. - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers
yesterday we had a problem with them, No an issue, the customer had her machine date set on month in the future, thus the spam filter was rejecting all her sent mail. This also seemed to happen to many xp machines after tuesdays MS up date. They had to reset the date, and if they set it wrong -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 10:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers We have been having alot of problems sending email through Everyone.Net's servers. Lots of server rejections, delivery resource unavailable type messages. Anyone going through the same problems? Here's a message sent by our tech to their tech support this morning. This message outlines our problems with them. - Original Message - From: Justin Mann To: Everyone.net Technical Support ; Unwired West Cc: Mark Nash Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 10:09 AM Subject: Continued issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers Hello, We are getting more Delivery Resource Unavailable errors from the Everyone.net SMTP servers today. This is on both shared-svc1 and shared-svc2. We would like help on why this is happening, and why we have issues sending email intermittently. I know for a fact this is an issue with the everyone.net servers; the error message is being returned from the servers themselves, after an SMTP session has been established. See the attached image; that is the error message coming from Everyone.net's servers. We didn't have many issues from this in April, but it was a nightmare earlier in the year. When email does not work, it makes it very difficult to do business. I am sure you understand our frustrations. So far, all suggestions given to us from Everyone.net have not worked. We have exhausted all potential options on our ends for reasons that we could be causing the errors. We have used different workstations, different operating systems, different mail clients, different ISPs, different email domains. We have even used different SMTP servers per your suggestion. When we use third-party SMTP servers we do not have this problem, ever. However, that is not a long-term solution. Please advise. Also, please look at the attached image. This is the type of error message we get, frequently, with both shared-svc1 and now shared-svc2. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer
Butch Evans will be much, MUCH cheaper. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 4:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Netequilizer Anybody using this product? We have a pretty good set of qos in our wimax platform but was considering a netequilizer to help with a few HD video streamers we have. Sent from my iPhone WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Freshbooks
We use it and like it, but it will not yet link with other credit card providers, like Chuck Wu and others. This is a big gripe of mine. Excellent free service for your subcontractor/ installers to keep track and to bill to your wisp. Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-Access, Inc. www.cv-access.com cprofitoatcv-access.com Providing Broadband Internet Access to the California's Rural Central Valley -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Dylan Bouterse Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 11:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Freshbooks As you can imagine, Butch is the only person that responded on his MT list and had nothing but good things to say. Good to know the customer experience is acceptable. Thanks Marlon! Dylan -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 1:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Freshbooks I get invoices from them via Butch. No problems with them as a customer... marlon - Original Message - From: Dylan Bouterse dy...@corp.power1.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 9:16 AM Subject: [WISPA] Freshbooks For those of you on the Mikrotik list I apologize for the dup post but I only got one response from that inquiry. Are any of you using Freshbooks for billing services? For those who are using it, what has your experience been? Have you had any support issues and what has their support response been like? Have you made any feature requests and have they been receptive? If any of you have looked at it but decided against it, what were your reasons (if you don't mind me asking)? :) Thank you! Dylan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New WISP
Hello, and welcome!. You may want to join WISPA as soon as possible. It will be the best money you spend before opening the doors. Membership will help you and your new business in many ways; low legal filings, many forms and contracts available for download, the list archives are worth the whole membership, representation in Washington DC, and the private members only list, where we have very frank discussions, Your State list, VoIP list, fiber list, MicroTeck list, Canopy list, etc.etc. And don't forget our Vendor discounts just for members. It is another place you can recoup the cost of membership almost immediately! And I forgot the new Wiki! Anyway, Welcome to the miracle of microwave and hopefully WISPA.org can help explain it! Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-Access, Inc. www.cv-access.com cprofito'at'cv-access.com Providing Broadband Internet Access to the California's Rural Central Valley -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Liam Cummings Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 2:50 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] New WISP Hi all, We are a technologies solutions company located in Cincinnati and trying to become a WISP. We are running into two road blocks. 1 - We need to choose software that doesn't need a coder to operate 2 - Choosing the right access points and other equipment We would love to here your thoughts. Any input would be much appreciated! :-) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Remotely Adjusted Dish Mount
why not just two TV rotor motors mounted in a cross. Or use a ham rotor on bottom and light channel master on top. The pole could go thru it so you could mount a wireless zoom camera to the other side for balance and LOS convenience. or put Horiz on one side and Vertical on the other, and don't forget the camera in the middle. you could be the local loco wisp reporter at all the breaking news sites. (We know you already have the scanner) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 6:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Remotely Adjusted Dish Mount Thanks, Mike. That's pretty close to what I envision. I need azimuth and rotation. I have a set of step motors from an upgrade on one of my telescopes and thought of maybe doing a McGyver on it but if there was something already out there that would allow a small dish to mount to it it would save me time since I never have any as it is. The mast has a 125 pound payload rating so I can go pretty beefy. Bob- - Original Message - From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Remotely Adjusted Dish Mount Not exactly sure what you're looking for, but Yaesu makes some really nice Az/El rotators. I would think azimuth control would be good enough. There are a lot of cheap TV antenna type rotators. Friendly Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 12:43 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Remotely Adjusted Dish Mount I recently acquired an 80 foot Super Heavy Duty Will-Burt telescopic mast with the goal for dual use of A) Site Survey and B) Emergency use during AP failure. I'm looking for a dish mount that can be remotely adjusted while the mast is extended. I haven't seen anything in my searches, wanted to know if anyone is using such a thing or have any recommendations of something they have seen. It's a cool toy so I gots to at least make the wife think I'm really gonna use it. Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC
JACK, Thank you and your team for all your hard work and travels and time away from your networks! Excellent changes and Excellent Presentation. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 4:17 PM To: memb...@wispa.org; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC Last Wednesday, March 31, the WISPA FCC Committee assisted by the WISPA Promotions Committee met with top managers of the FCC Office of Engineering and Technology (OET) at FCC Headquarters in Washington D.C. to discuss the status of WISPA's TV Whitespaces filings. The following Members represented WISPA. Ryan Spott, Alex Phillips, John Scriver, and Jack Unger. The WISPA Team was assisted by Steve Coran of Rini/Coran LLC in Washington. All Team Members made valuable contributions to the effort and we all feel that the meeting went well. Our goal was to ask the FCC take favorable action soon on WISPA's Petitions to adjust the TV Whitespace rules by making corrections to several problem areas, thereby making WISP use of the Whitespaces more practical and more successful. I'm attaching a more detailed report (.doc file) and also the official written filing (PDF) that WISPA is required to make after every meeting with the FCC. A copy of our FCC PowerPoint presentation is also required to be part of our written filing. To easily view our presentation, please rotate the attached PDF clockwise 90 degrees in your Adobe Reader viewer. Your questions and constructive suggestions are always welcome. Respectfully Submitted, Jack Unger WISPA FCC Committee Chair 818-227-4220 -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Network Design - Technical Training - Technical Writing Serving the Broadband Wireless, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] to the General List at large
Please take the time to see and read about what Jack and WISPA FCC and Promotions Committee have done for you, and your families, and your customers, and your locality. Lawyers are not cheap, air fares and lodging in DC isn't ether. Their time away from their networks could be downright costly and you know it! It's work like this that needs YOUR INVESTMENT, in YOUR FUTURE, by helping WISPA with your membership. Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-Access, Inc. www.cv-access.com Providing Broadband Internet Access to the California's Rural Central Valley -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 4:17 PM To: memb...@wispa.org; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC Last Wednesday, March 31, the WISPA FCC Committee assisted by the WISPA Promotions Committee met with top managers of the FCC Office of Engineering and Technology (OET) at FCC Headquarters in Washington D.C. to discuss the status of WISPA's TV Whitespaces filings. The following Members represented WISPA. Ryan Spott, Alex Phillips, John Scriver, and Jack Unger. The WISPA Team was assisted by Steve Coran of Rini/Coran LLC in Washington. All Team Members made valuable contributions to the effort and we all feel that the meeting went well. Our goal was to ask the FCC take favorable action soon on WISPA's Petitions to adjust the TV Whitespace rules by making corrections to several problem areas, thereby making WISP use of the Whitespaces more practical and more successful. I'm attaching a more detailed report (.doc file) and also the official written filing (PDF) that WISPA is required to make after every meeting with the FCC. A copy of our FCC PowerPoint presentation is also required to be part of our written filing. To easily view our presentation, please rotate the attached PDF clockwise 90 degrees in your Adobe Reader viewer. Your questions and constructive suggestions are always welcome. Respectfully Submitted, Jack Unger WISPA FCC Committee Chair 818-227-4220 -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Network Design - Technical Training - Technical Writing Serving the Broadband Wireless, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?
Forbes, Hope the rest of the list doesn't think I'm nuts: Do you see any large, hi gain CB or Ham beam antennas or Truckers from the southern area parked or loading nearby? Within say 1/4 mile of B tower? The new mobile 70KW class C Linear's are about as dirty as they come. Some of those drivers from Mexico and AZ are talking direct, no skip, 500 miles on the lower vertical channels. That much bleed over in radiated power may trip ground on your switch and or MT boards. It could come right thru your tower grounding, let alone your antennas and CAt5. Could you try batteries there? Say a smart charger thru a UPS, then to batteries. i.e. no common ground. Chuck Profito -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 10:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas? We have been plagued with an ongoing issue in our Mikrotik backhauls. It happens about once a month and only on three radios that feed each other, all other sites work fine. Site A is my head end, it is a Mikrotik 433 with an XR5 chip that feeds about five miles to another site to Site B. Site B has the same equipment that goes through a managed switch then passes on to Site C about 7 miles further. What happens is we are suddenly paged that all three are down. Sometimes Site A stays up, most times not, we can get into Site A since it's the head end and we reboot it, it comes right back up. Site B and C stay down, we have to drive to Site B and reboot it, it comes back up but Site C stays down. We have a remote reboot for it from a redundant feed so after rebooting it C reconnects to B and they are all up. This will happen three or four more times in a single day or not at all again for a month, it's totally unpredictable. The boards are up but not communicating, it also takes down the other 2.4 Mikortik AP's at Site B and that has to be rebooted. We normally run arp -d to clear up any residual, it sure appears to be traffic related and we are on a bridged not routed network. The only similarities is it's only this feed, it usually happens in spurts of a day or two then stops for a long time, it always happens during the working day leading me to believe it's coming from a day user. We run Wireshark but see nothing, we torch the towers and they don't show much unusual. We're thinking it might be a deluge of traffic between Site B and C and are thinking of putting a PC at the C tower to run diagnostics there. This is very manpower heavy as we have to send people two places and average down time is one hour to do this. We are going to turn our network into a routed network this Summer but that doesn't help now. Any ideas would be appreciated. Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] RIVERSIDE NEEDS YOU
ATT Wants to Dump Riverside Network on City One of the legacy muni-Fi networks will have new (or no) owners: Esme Vos writes at MuniWireless.com about the current state of the Riverside, Calif., network operated by ATT. The network was the first and only bid by ATT with MetroFi, which was unable to complete that network along with many others, and which shut down in 2008. In Riverside, ATT kept up much of its end of the bargain, hiring Nokia Siemens to complete the network, which Vos says only reached 77 percent of the city. (One expects there's no SkyPilot gear left in place, either, but I don't know that for sure.) The network has 20,000 daily users out of a population of about 300,000 (in 2000); the county has over 2.1 million residents. ATT wants to give the city the network at no cost, but the city is facing revenue shortfalls like the rest of the country (and most of the world). It's trying to get a federal grant. Of the networks originally built in part or whole by EarthLink, Kite, and MetroFi, only a handful remain in operation. Philadelphia recently moved to take over the remains of the network there from an interim firm that had been planning to build out a variety of access services. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app
I have found that using the app Mocha VNC, is much easier than using the others I have tried. just VNC back to your computer and or server and you have ALL your tools. But if the back haul is dead, net book / lap top time. But I do find I very seldom pull them out. Chuck -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Bartosch Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 10:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app Yeah, I haven't found tethering to make all that much sense either. My gf has her iPhone jail broken, but honestly, I think she does it just because she can...I haven't seen her do anything with it that actually mattered. I haven't had a problem doing anything I needed (or wanted) to do without jail breaking. I also have a Droid at the moment, but damn, I'll tell you, it's a annoying as hell in comparison. And I really hate the little feedback vibration every time I touch one of the permanent keys (maybe that can be turned off-I haven't taken the time to delve too much into the options yet). I'll keep using it for a few more days but so far it doesn't compare, even though Verizon's 3G coverage IS a little but broader out this way (but, it's not as much broader as I'd thought it was supposed to be). However, if I didn't have the iPhone as an option, I'd probably love the Droid. Sure beats what I used to use, even if it doesn't quite meet (for me) the iPhone standards. As always with this kind of thing, I'm sure YMMV. Chuck On Mar 11, 2010, at 6:04 PM, Data Technology wrote: Justin Wilson wrote: The only benefit I have seen so far of Jailbreaking an iphone is being able to tether it. Every App I have wanted to run I can find in the store. Justin I had thought that would be a great thing to have, then I could connect the laptop and have a bigger screen and kbd to browse with. But around here I don't have 3g available, so ATT is slow for the internet. I then thought that I could just use a wi-fi connection (surly I could find one of those!) but then I thought, you big dummy, if I can get a wi-fi connection on the phone to tether to the laptop then I could just connect to the wi-fi with the laptop ;) So I dont't think I really need tethering. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 When the stars threw down their spears, and water'd heaven with their tears, Did He smile, His work to see? Did He who made the Lamb make thee? From William Blake's Tiger!, Tiger! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] That black magic
If he is really motivated he will help with $$ for the repeater. Anybody else who will benefit? They might too. Or raise your install cost to a few to cover the solar. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 7:47 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] That black magic Columbus was a murderer. Neil Armstrong was going to the moon. Not giving a farmer access to a global network to check weather, stocks and naughty pictures. Edmund Hillary is nuts. I would definitely start by making sure you have LOS at 31 feet. We've established you can not at ~18, but may at 31. Maybe he's looking in the wrong spot and doesn't know what he's looking for and in reality, you can see the light at 18 feet. I'd definitely get these figures before proceeding. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: Josh said I agree with Jason, too. Just because you can does not mean you should. Columbus, or Neil Armstrong, or Edmund Hillary never said that! :-) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] bittorrents
Talk to Butch for queuing, Talk to Mac /or Jeremy for packet and connection limiting. Both for Bandwidth Management. Remember, you can't hide packets in a vpn... -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 10:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] bittorrents I'm not saying there aren't a lot of legal torrents but I'm saying the majority are illegal and that torrent is by no means a mainstream protocol that needs to be supported. Wow patches? Here's some HTTP mirrors... http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors MT updates? Click the link above it that is HTTP for the file you need. *nix distros? Click the HTTP links above or below it. These are the 3 examples I see time and time again and I always ask, without answer, for other examples. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 1:41 AM, Philip Dorr wirel...@judgementgaming.comwrote: I get my Ubuntu ISOs via Bittorrent. We block the customer, until they stop, if it is causing problems with the AP they are on. We have only had problems on our 2.4Ghz and sometimes 900Mhz APs. We have not yet had any problems on our 5.8Ghz APs. On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Torrents are used by WoW and Mikrotik. What else that you would go under oath saying you torrented? On 2/14/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: We allow but they can't run a server, as in NO sharing. But allowing means no 24 hour downloading. Can't get around torrents, even Mikrotik has their updates via torrent. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 12:55 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] bit torrents Even though our AUP TOS does not allow it, I have a customer demanding to run bit torrents. I want to be fair in all matters. Am I being over zealous on not allowing torrents? Who here allows or disallows them? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show
How come we don't hear any one suggesting a show in Denver or Salt Lake? Pretty much the center of the country with MAJOR airline hubs direct to all points. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 9:03 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show I have a fridge full of beer you are welcome to. I'll bring the whole fridge if I can go somewhere the weather isn't disgusting. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Yes, and notice how Josh suddenly clammed up once it was settled to all crash at his house and drink his beer, break his Playstation3 and embarrass him in front of all his neighbors at 3 in the morning.. I see how things are, Josh. After all we've been through together you have to turn into this. Bob -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Stuart Pierce Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 11:23 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show Hey now, the weather is nice today. Granted Columbus isn't Kettering, but hey, it's got more food. -- Original Message -- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 10:44:30 -0500 Ohio weather sucks. Zipline would be fun! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Me thinks Stuart likes Columbus. OSU grad, Stuart? I like the town too. A lot less than a cow town as it used to be. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Stuart Pierce Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 9:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show Have I mentioned Columbus Ohio ? Downtown has everything, German Village, Italian Village, Victorian Village and Campus. Oh food, wine and song as well. -- Original Message -- From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 12:10:24 -0500 I agree here with Marlon that I am afraid that it will turn into an ISPCon event. I learn and enjoy a show like MUM or AFMUG much better than ISPCon. As both a Vendor and an ISP member, shows like ISPCon don't have the intimacy like a smaller show does. I could care less if it is in Vegas, or some other place, so long as it provides: 1) A chance to meet with other companies in our industry, large, medium, or small. 2) A chance to meet with other vendors and work with their special niche in the market, and have those vendors be WISPA member vendors, not just any vendor. 3) A highspeed internet connection to make sure I can stay in touch with home to make sure business continues. 4) Close to the airport, reasonable accommodations, and good food is a plus. 5) Be reasonable in price. $250 is WAY too much for me to attend as an ISP to a tradeshow. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 12:00 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: wispas...@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show Hi Matt, I'm moving this back to the show list. I still request that wispashow emails reply to that list not the public one :-). Anyway, I understand what you are saying. As our local Chamber of Commerce president here's my latest project: http://www.odessachamber.net/bikeweek Almost all I'm doing is managing the folks doing the leg work. Herding the cats as it were... It's certainly quite a bit of work. We're expecting 200 to 400 people to show up during the week. On the weekend the 40th annual Desert 100 race will bring in roughly 6000 people. http://www.stumpjumpers.org The race takes nearly an entire year to pull off. There is a race chairman and a vice. This year's vice becomes next year's chairman. Much of the physical work involves marking the track, a task that has to be done all over every year because the
Re: [WISPA] Follow up article
For all of you on all sides of this, check out www.goooh.com a very non partisan site. This organization is getting a lot of traction nationwide. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 9:37 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Follow up article He still owes me 10 bucks. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 11:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Follow up article You know I really didn't like Obama in the beginning. Now he's really pissing me off. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:53 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I was just wondering about this the other day. It seems that we (USA) give things away so freely only to have them used against us. In the case of the net, I find it ironic that the very thing we developed is being used to attack our government and our people in so many ways yet we let everyone connect to it. I think we should start cutting of the ilk that hack or attempt to hack into our networks. -RickG On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com wrote: From NewsMax: Obama Surrendering Internet to Foreign Powers Sunday, 31 Jan 2010 06:41 PM Article Font Size By: Bradley A. Blakeman Without the ingenuity of America's brightest minds and the investment of U.S. taxpayer dollars, there would be no Internet, as we now know it today. Now, the Obama administration has moved quietly to cede control of the Web from the United States to foreign powers. Some background: The Internet came into being because of the genius work of Americans Dr.Robert E. Kahn and Dr. Vinton G. Cerf. These men, while working for the Department of Defense in the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency in the early 1970s, conceived, designed, and implemented the idea of open-architecture networking. This breakthrough in connectivity and networking was the birth of the Internet. These two gentlemen had the vision and the brainpower to create a worldwide computer Internet communications network that forever changed the world and how we communicate in it. They discovered that providing a person with a unique identifier (TCP/IP)that was able to be recognized and interact through a network of servers would allow users to communicate with others. The servers woulduse a series of giant receivers to recognize the identifier and connect networks to networks, passing on information from computer to computer in a seamless real-time exchange of information. This new process of communication became know as the information super highway, aka, the Internet. Now for the bad news: In an effort to show the world how inclusive, sharing, cooperative, and international America can be, the Obama administration set off on a plan to surrender control and key management of the Internet by the U.S. Department of Commerce and its agents. The key to the control America has over the Internet is through the management of the Domain Name System (DNS) and the giant servers that service the Internet. Domain names are managed through an entity named IANA, the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority. The IANA, which operates on behalf of the U.S. Department of Commerce, is responsible for the global coordination of the DNS, IP addressing, and other Internet protocol resources. In short, without an IP Address or other essential Internet protocols, a person or entity would not have access to the Internet. For years, the international community has been pressuring the United States to surrender its control and management of the Internet. They want an international body such as the United Nations or even the International Telecommunications Union, (an entity that coordinates international telephone communications), to manage all aspects of the Internet in behalf of all nations. The argument advanced for those seeking international control of the Internet is that the Internet has become such a powerful, pervasive, and a dependent form of international communications, that it would be dangerous and inequitable for any one nation to control and manage it. Just this past spring, within months of Obama's taking office, his administration, through the Department of Commerce, agreed to relinquish some control over IANA and their governance. The Obama administration has agreed to give greater representation to foreign companies and countries on IANA. This amounts to one small step for internationalism
Re: [WISPA] Semi-OT: Mobile phone platform questions
I like Mocha VNC. Fantastic app. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jayson Baker Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 8:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Semi-OT: Mobile phone platform questions iPhone has all that On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: Do any of the mobile phone platforms support VPN at all from the phone itself? Any have a Remote Desktop client? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Follow up article
From NewsMax: Obama Surrendering Internet to Foreign Powers Sunday, 31 Jan 2010 06:41 PM Article Font Size By: Bradley A. Blakeman Without the ingenuity of America's brightest minds and the investment of U.S. taxpayer dollars, there would be no Internet, as we now know it today. Now, the Obama administration has moved quietly to cede control of the Web from the United States to foreign powers. Some background: The Internet came into being because of the genius work of Americans Dr.Robert E. Kahn and Dr. Vinton G. Cerf. These men, while working for the Department of Defense in the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency in the early 1970s, conceived, designed, and implemented the idea of open-architecture networking. This breakthrough in connectivity and networking was the birth of the Internet. These two gentlemen had the vision and the brainpower to create a worldwide computer Internet communications network that forever changed the world and how we communicate in it. They discovered that providing a person with a unique identifier (TCP/IP)that was able to be recognized and interact through a network of servers would allow users to communicate with others. The servers woulduse a series of giant receivers to recognize the identifier and connect networks to networks, passing on information from computer to computer in a seamless real-time exchange of information. This new process of communication became know as the information super highway, aka, the Internet. Now for the bad news: In an effort to show the world how inclusive, sharing, cooperative, and international America can be, the Obama administration set off on a plan to surrender control and key management of the Internet by the U.S. Department of Commerce and its agents. The key to the control America has over the Internet is through the management of the Domain Name System (DNS) and the giant servers that service the Internet. Domain names are managed through an entity named IANA, the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority. The IANA, which operates on behalf of the U.S. Department of Commerce, is responsible for the global coordination of the DNS, IP addressing, and other Internet protocol resources. In short, without an IP Address or other essential Internet protocols, a person or entity would not have access to the Internet. For years, the international community has been pressuring the United States to surrender its control and management of the Internet. They want an international body such as the United Nations or even the International Telecommunications Union, (an entity that coordinates international telephone communications), to manage all aspects of the Internet in behalf of all nations. The argument advanced for those seeking international control of the Internet is that the Internet has become such a powerful, pervasive, and a dependent form of international communications, that it would be dangerous and inequitable for any one nation to control and manage it. Just this past spring, within months of Obama's taking office, his administration, through the Department of Commerce, agreed to relinquish some control over IANA and their governance. The Obama administration has agreed to give greater representation to foreign companies and countries on IANA. This amounts to one small step for internationalism and one giant leap for surrendering America's control over an invention we have every right and responsibility to control and manage. It is in America's economic and national security interests not to relinquish any control. We are responsible for the control, operation, and functionality of one of the modern world's greatest inventions and most powerful communications network. What better country to protect the Internet than the United States? We invented it, and we paid for the research and implementation that made it possible. We are the freest, most tolerant nation on earth, we believe in the fundamental right of free speech, and we practice a free market of commerce and ideas. America has always been against censorship and has shared its invention with the world without fee or unreasonable or arbitrary restriction. The user fee to operate on the Internet is not one paid to the U.S. government; a consumer pays it to private Internet companies, who provide access to the Internet through servers for their subscribers. Look no further than China's recent move against Google to censor the Internet, and you can envision what can happen when other nations less free than the United States seek to control the Internet beyond even their own borders. America needs to wake up. If we lose control over the management of the Internet, we have given away one of our nation's greatest assets with nothing in return to show for it. The Obama administration's actions will set in motion a slow and complete takeover of the Internet by the United Nations or some other equally U.S.-hostile and unfriendly international body. And
Re: [WISPA] AirGrids
Robert, Did he mention if they might put some silicone in the holes before labeling? Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC Cprofito at cv-access.com Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 6:58 AM To: spie...@avolve.net; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] AirGrids Well, first off I talked to Ben over at UBNT last night and he said they are changing the design with the next batch so that the LEDs are down facing. The issue is, there are two locking tabs that snap in for either horizontal or vertical polarization so you are limited to how it's oriented. The antenna feed is one part and it snaps into the feed retainer that is attached to the grid. The retainer protrudes through the rear of the grid and ends with the port for the Cat5 to enter and a couple of small drain holes. These are not on the very end but on a flat spot on the bottom of the retainer. Flip the antenna so that the LEDs are facing down then the drain holes and Cat5 entry hole is now facing UP. The old, Damned if you do and damned if you don't But they are fixing the issue. One of those things they can't see unless they are in the field. I'm sure the lights being up made sense sitting in an office looking at the thing from above. If I'm looking at an antenna from above, I'm either high up on a tower or I'm trying to install it in a hole. :) I played with the 65 foot cable limit last night too. Used a 100' cable and the USB PoE will power it but just enough for the lights to come on, no communication with it. Tried a 9v, 12v and a 15v PoE. 9 and 12 worked fine but the 15V made it yell at me. I settled on a 9V injector and my test unit has been working fine since last night. Ben said the PoE they will be offering as an option starts out at 5V. I asked for a possible chart from them on suggested voltage VS. cable length so we don't fry them out of trial and error. He mentioned they are working on design to allow it to use the 24v PoE... I'm actually thinking of swapping out a pac grid and MT box back haul from a solar site to see how the power drain is from these since they require such a low voltage. In all, I installed 2 last night and they were great! The mounting hardware is beefy and says quality. The unit doesn't feel clunky at all, unlike most of the Pac Wireless grids and the install went fast with the radio and grid being just one unit. The first install took a whole 20 minutes including running the cable and drilling a hole. Of course it was a cable run of only 50 feet, not a big job, but was still quick. I'm sold on them. Still gotta use the Mikrotik though, the Dude server rocks. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Stuart Pierce Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 7:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] AirGrids Having not seeing one in person, can't you just flip it 180* so the lights face down ? I take it the answer is no, but I was just wondering why. -- Original Message -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:01:05 -0500 Installing some UBNT AirGrids this weekend. First thing I see is that when I assemble for horizontal polarity the LED strip is now facing UP, as in looking at the sky. Not able to see the power light from the ground or any RSSI. Second issue, we all know the water issue with the new bullets, getting in through the LED strip. In horizontal, the strip is facing up. Makes more sense to face it all down. I also see a need to wrap with tape where the feed and the feed support meet. Just first impressions. Bob- Just Micro.NET --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http
Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site
Something similar happened a month ago to us. Our local canopy competitor sent out a new installer to a subs home to pick up their equipment(in a box in the garage ). He saw our Ubiquity Nano on the roof, cut the wire and removed it the mount! They were very apologetic. So we picked up the radio, reinstalled and sent them the bill.. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:44 AM To: tractipp...@swiftwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site Heya Tracy, Turns out this was a misunderstanding. The equipment that got stolen was the CPE at the office in TOWN, not the solar site out in the sticks. Not sure how those wires got crossed, but the solar sit is still working well. We did see the cpe come online for a few seconds since we figured this out though. It'll be interesting to see if we can figure out how to track down who stole it :-). marlon - Original Message - From: Tracy Tippett tracytipp...@swiftwireless.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site Hi Marlon, Sorry about your gear - give me a ring Tracy Tippett 866-582-7287 --Original Mail-- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 08:50:47 -0800 Subject: [WISPA] stolen solar site Deep sigh. I put up my first solar site 3 weeks ago. Today it's gone. $3,000 in hardware, poof. What do you guys do to secure them? I hope the jerks fell of the cliff's and got hurt! It's not like the whole world even know the gear was out there. Pretty remote location, not at all publicized. Merry Christmas and a Happy New year eh? ug marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wind turbine
Has anybody used Swift 's ? quiet and small but I have no idea how they hold up in extreme weather. But I think the one that's coming on hard is Flow Design's. Way too big for us now, but if they ever get their head out of the clouds, they could be a real contender for small home and commercial turbines. IMHO, Keep a close eye on this one. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 9:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] wind turbine Good feedback. The air breeze came off the mountain just before I left for AF, so I haven't taken it apart yet. Smelled a bit toasty though. Anyone tried the Tycon Power systems turbine yet? Obviously will need an external controller and load dump. Randy On 1/15/2010 9:59 AM, MDK wrote: I've used the Air-X and had it survive many storms and winds of 60-80. I changed to Air Breeze because SWWP suggested that it would charge better in low winds, and the circuit board was not prone to die every year to 18 months. My Air Breeze failed repeatedly - it never lasted more than 45 days. Each time the insides totally melted down, into a toxic mess. Each time a storm came through it failed - the Air-X is nothing like that.I just reverted back to Air-X, because SWWP got tired of replacing it for me and gave me a new Air-X instead of fixing my Breeze. What kind of power requirements do you have?I've seen a couple of others that might serve you, as well.I don't' have time at the moment to look them up.They're all considerably smaller than the Air-X in power output. -- From: Randy Cosbydco...@infowest.com Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 3:19 PM To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] wind turbine Anyone using wind turbines in high-wind areas? We had a Southwest wind power AirBreeze get shredded - probably 80+mph winds. Are 5 or 6-blade turbines going to handle high wind better? -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 http://www.infowest.com/ Letting off steam always produces more heat than light. - Neal A. Maxwell WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] from today's WSJ
ENJOY; http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126221116097210861.html OH, LATH, PLASTER AND CHICKEN WIRE, A near Perfect 2.4 Faraday cage! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] This comes up again and again - value of network
Well at $49.95 monthly your ROI is 10monthswill he finance out of income? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 11:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] This comes up again and again - value of network There's a guy started a small network in an area I serve, but quite distant from me, and he's wanting to get out. He offered to sell me his customers and his network, and then finally he quoted me a price for his network.Not the customers but just the network and the customer owns his own cpe.I buy the network and inherit his customers - that was the deal. It works out to $500 / customer. For infrastructure, that seems... well... REALLY high to me. It consists MOSTLY of UBNT stuff and some bandwidth controls, etc, I don't really understand. It's mostly bridged, and has no public IP's, it was apparently NAT'd to a cable connection somewhere. Looking at my rural deployments and the approximate cost- even of the solar/wind powered sites... I'm well under $100/customer for network infrastructure outside of the CPE. Am I the one way different, or is he? Or, is this wide range normal? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] REDBOX
Maybe NCR may want to talk... From CEA SmartBrief today: NCR will convert newly bought DVDPlay kiosks into its licensed Blockbuster Express brand name as it continues to challenge Redbox in the quest for movie lovers' loyalty. While the move isn't huge, as Redbox has 20,000 kiosks while NCR has just 3,800 in the U.S., it could prove to be a significant advantage in certain markets such as California. The Wall Street Journal (12/10) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] It's too darn cold!
It is also snowing here in Vernalis and Modesto areas, and north, but it's barely sticking here. We haven't seen snow this low since maybe the 80's I guess I've got to put away the floral shirt and shorts and find me a hat with ears. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 5:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] It's too darn cold! It's snowing here! Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 2:07 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] It's too darn cold! It's cold. I spent all day and most of the night working on a tower and my feet are frozen. Time for new boots and the rest of the winter gear.. Anyone have winter gear that they swear by and not AT? I use steel toed boots (lesson learned the hard and painful way) and usually buy whatever looks good, clothing wise, from TSC. Everything is pretty much worn out, time for crap to keep me warm. Ideas so that I don't freeze to death? And gloves! Man, I never have found gloves I could wear AND use my hands at the same time. So as usual Who loves what and who hates what? Thanks. Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cleaning N Connectors
Or LPS electric motor cleaner, can be sprayed in a running motor and leaves no residue. When reading their label, it has to have the words, can be sprayed into a running electric motor Also, these are the best drill coolants, no smoke and the bit stays COLD. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 6:18 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cleaning N Connectors I still use them on memory contacts, hard drive board contacts and the like. I use the big pink ones but they DO leave a residue, I use a solvent to clean it up. My solvent of choice... My old friend, ZEP Brake Wash. Yes, Brake Wash in the spray can but only ZEP brand. I buy it by the case. Not hard enough to hurt plastic but boy, it will certainly clean electronic components. Love the stuff. Just don't read the MSDS, be happy! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Phil Curnutt Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 7:39 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cleaning N Connectors Used them all the time on UHF and VHF equipment back in the day. Matter of fact it was taught at my tech school; USCG. Phil On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 5:33 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: I was taught in tech school that pencil erasers give off an acid that can damage the contacts. Who knows if it's true. Greg On Dec 7, 2009, at 7:32 PM, Phil Curnutt wrote: Try a pencil erasure. Phil On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: OxGard works too! They usually have that at Menards. Electrical supply house will have NoAlOx. At 04:10 PM 12/7/2009, you wrote: Well boy, ya learned me something! I honestly never heard of NoAlOx before. Looked it up, looks good. I'll have to pick some up for other things as well, looks like. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 5:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cleaning N Connectors Bob: The fingers are gold plated and won't corrode either. When you're cleaning them, and since they were outside unprotected, get your close up goggles on and use a toothpick to make sure there is nothing in the space between the fingers. I actually have some ancient silver N right angle adapters that are black, not silver. I use them on various radios in my shack. They work just fine. I do like to put just a little bit NOT MUCH NoAlOx or equivalent on the female threads when I put them back together. Silver connectors are more susceptible to mechanical loosening from thermal changes than the nickle silver ones. Get em tight! Mike At 03:55 PM 12/7/2009, you wrote: I never would have guessed silver though. Someone mentioned that earlier too. At first it looked like rubber tape residue but it had me scratching me head since boy never put any cables on them. Makes perfect sense though. They will probably be okay, I just didn't want to attack them with the steel wool or whatever and screw up what seem to be very nice sectors. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 4:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cleaning N Connectors I read black stuff, not corrosion. If they are silver connectors, then it's silver oxide and NOT a problem. In the old days all, and now only the best equipment still use silver connectors. Just like an old dime will turn black once it has skin oils on it, so will a silver connector. Neither of them is hurt by the patina. Mike At 03:29 PM 12/7/2009, you wrote: 2009/12/7 Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com: If it were me? Toss em and start over. Not worth the trouble. Once corrosion starts it's hard to stop it. marlon He could always solder new N connectors to the antenna element, and be good as new. The Andrew sectors are a good unit, it'd be a shame to toss em. --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring
Ok techowizzes, why not a $2.00 volt meter a $20-30 ethernet bw camera, w / power supply on power controller?I guess I'm the one who still uses a pencil. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 1:34 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring Before I go over to the MT forums and get treated like an idiot (they are somehow able to see through my clever disguise, darn it!) I'm looking for anyone who has used the serial pins on the Routerboard to send an on/off signal. I have a home brew solar install that runs an AP but there are times, like many cloudy days in a row, things don't charge as well and the battery will drop and then I lose the AP. I have a backup battery I carry with me and I swap the things from time to time but still, sometimes it drops out. I'm cheap, so bear with me here. I know there are lots of things I can buy ($$$) to do what I want to do but I'm a maverick, a rebel, a guy who knows just enough to screw everything up and almost enough to fix some of it. So I only want the MT to send me a message that the battery is low. I have an el-cheapo device, cost me fifteen bucks, that will monitor the battery and turn on 3 lights ,Good, Low and You better get here or the phone is gonna start ringing. If I can take the voltage that is sent to my low led and use that to send a signal to the serial port then I think I'd be almost there. Older versions of RouterOS had a package that would monitor the serial port but from what I read, it's no more. Was it substituted with anything? If so, I can't find it. Any help is welcome, just don't send me to the forums, those guys are ruthless! Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. 740-335-7020 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
