[WISPA] If you can service any of these hit me off list
OMG - you guys sure wine a lot I'm trying to send you business lol Due to popular demand, and because I don't want to have a price on my head, here is the complete list in one email. I figured it was easier for someone to only read my email if the subject was in their area. I won't make that mistake again... If you can service these just send me the install fee, MRC and any terms. Prefer wireless but in the end they need service at these locations so if you can servie the location tell me what you provide need 10Mb service. DOes it have to be dedicated, no but needs static IP and minimum 5Mb up. I have not decided whether I am managing all these locations for my customer or if I will simply refer them to you. So assume I'm the customer for now so you have to be sweet to me Thanks appreciate your time and SORRY for the mass individual emails the other day :) Location Address ATL - Atlanta 1000 Toffee Terrace Atlanta, GA 30354 ATL-P - Atlanta 1000 Toffee Terrace Atlanta, GA 30354 BOS - Boston 152 Harborside Drive Building 56 East Boston, MA 02128 BUR - Burbank 4209 West Empire Drive Burbank, CA 91505 CLT - Charlotte 4732 West Blvd. Suite H Charlotte, NC 28208 DCA - Washington,DC 106 Air Cargo Road Washington, DC 20001 DEN - Denver 7850 Henry B. Combs Parkway Denver, CO 80249 DFW - Dallas Fort Worth 1910 W. Airfield Drive Bldg. B Suite 200 DFW Airport, TX 75261 DTW - Detriot 31705 East Service Drive Building 530 Detroit, MI 48242 DTW-P - Romulus Detroit Metro Airport Building 514 Door 14 Romulus, MI 48174 EWR - Newark Newark Liberty International Airport 3 Brewster Road Terminal A, Ramp 18 Gate 30 Newark, NJ 07114 HPN - White Plains 240 Airport Road Hanger C1, 2nd Floor White Plains, NY 10604 JFK - Jamaica JFK International Airport Building 151 East Hangar Road Room 283 Jamaica, NY 11431 LGA - Flushing Hangar 7 North Drive Bowery Bay Blvd Flushing, NY 11371 MCI - Kansas City 716 Mexico City Ave. Kansas City, MO 64154 MDW - Chicago 5923 S. Central Ave Signature Flight Support Bldg. Chicago, IL 60638 MSP - St Paul 4300 Glumack Drive Terminal 1 - Lindbergh Suite E-1380 St. Paul, MN 55111 MSP-P - Minneapolis Hangar Front Desk 7500 Airline Dr. Building C Minneapolis, MN 55450 MSY - New Orleans 900 Airline Drive Room C102-130 Gate C2 Kenner, LA 70062 NAS - Nassau Lynden Pindling Int'l Aiport Windsor Field Road Suite B1-519 Nassau, BS OMA - Omaha 1817 Fort Ct. Omaha, NE 68110 PHL - Philadelphia 10 Tinicum Island Road Cargo City, Building C2 Suite 10 Philadelphia, PA 19153 PHX - Phoenix 1301 S 27th Street Bay 6 Phoenix, AZ 85034 RNO - Reno 2890 Vassar Street Suite 15A Reno, NV 89502 RSW - Fort Myers 1100 Terminal Access Road Room 1D49 Fort Myers, FL 33913 SLC - Salt Lake City 3431 South 500 West Suite C South Salt Lake City, UT 84115 TTN - Trenton 150 Control Tower Road Hanger C5 Trenton, NJ 08628 Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Need 10Mb service Minneapolis, MN
Hit me off list if you can service thanks Hangar Front Desk 7500 Airline Dr. Building C Minneapolis, MN 55450 Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Need 10Mb service Trenton, NJ
Hit me offlist of you can service thanks 150 Control Tower Road Hanger C5 Trenton, NJ 08628 Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Need 10Mb service Salt Lake City, UT
Hit me offlist if you can service 3431 South 500 West Suite C South Salt Lake City, UT 84115 Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Need 10Mb service Fort Myers, FL
Hit me off list if you can service 1100 Terminal Access Road Room 1D49 Fort Myers, FL 33913 Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Need 10Mb service Reno, NV
Hit me offlist if you can service 2890 Vassar Street Suite 15A Reno, NV 89502 Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Need 10Mb service Philadelphia, PA
Hit me off list if you can service 10 Tinicum Island Road Cargo City, Building C2 Suite 10 Philadelphia, PA 19153 Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Need 10Mb service at Phoenix, AZ
Hit me off list if you can service 1301 S 27th Street Bay 6 Phoenix, AZ 85034 Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Need 10Mb service Omaha, NE
Hit me off list if you can service 1817 Fort Ct. Omaha, NE 68110 Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Need 10Mb service Nassau, BS
Hit me offlist if you have a solution Lynden Pindling Int'l Aiport Windsor Field Road Suite B1-519 Nassau, BS Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Need 10Mb service Kenner, LA (ANYONE?)
Asked before no love 900 Airline Drive Room C102-130 Gate C2 Kenner, LA 70062 Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Need 10Mb service St. Paul, MN
Hit me off list if you can service thanks 4300 Glumack Drive Terminal 1 - Lindbergh Suite E-1380 St. Paul, MN 55111 Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Need 10Mb snappy service Miami, FL
Hit me off list Fasil if you can service :) 4450 NW 20th St. Suite 213E Bldg. 3050 Miami, FL 33122 Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Need 10Mb service at Chicago, IL
Hit me off list if you can service thanks 5923 S. Central Ave Signature Flight Support Bldg. Chicago, IL 60638 Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Need 10Mb service Kansas City, MO
Hit me offlist if you can service thanks 716 Mexico City Ave. Kansas City, MO 64154 Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Need 10Mb service Flushing, NY
Hit me off list if you can service thanks Hangar 7 North Drive Bowery Bay Blvd Flushing, NY 11371 Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Need 10Mb service at Jamaica, NY
Hit me off list if you can service thanks JFK International Airport Building 151 East Hangar Road Room 283 Jamaica, NY 11431 Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Need 10Mb service White Plains, NY
Hit me off list if you can service thanks 240 Airport Road Hanger C1, 2nd Floor White Plains, NY 10604 Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Need 10Mb service Newark, NJ
Hit me off list if you can service thanks Newark Liberty International Airport 3 Brewster Road Terminal A, Ramp 18 Gate 30 Newark, NJ 07114 Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Need 10Mb service DFW Airport, TX
Hit me off list if you can service thanks 1910 W. Airfield Drive Bldg. B Suite 200 DFW Airport, TX 75261 Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Need 10Mb service Denver, CO
Hit me off list if you can service thanks 7850 Henry B. Combs Parkway Denver, CO 80249 Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Need 10Mb service Washington, DC
Hot me off list if you can service thanks 106 Air Cargo Road Washington, DC 20001 Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Need 10Mb service Charlotte, NC
Hit me off list if you can service thanks 4732 West Blvd. Suite H Charlotte, NC 28208 Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Need 10Mb service Burbank, CA
Hit me off list if you can service 4209 West Empire Drive Burbank, CA 91505 Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Need 10Mb service Atlanta, GA
Hit me off list if you can service thanks 1000 Toffee Terrace Atlanta, GA 30354 Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Need 10Mb service Detroit, MI
Hit me offlist if you can service. Thanks 31705 East Service Drive Building 530 Detroit, MI 48242 Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Need 10Mb service in East Boston, MA
Hit me off list please if you can service. Thanks 152 Harborside Drive Building 56 East Boston, MA 02128 Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Anyone able to service this address in New Orleans?
900 Airline Drive Room C102-130 Gate C2 Kenner, LA 70062 If yes hit me off list I need 10Mb service there with a static IP Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Active Ethernet switches
I have some occum / Calix switches with 10Gb uplinks / 8 copper gig ports I think and 24 ports SFP DC -48v if you are interested.. New / setup but not deployed company went under I bought them for same use. We are leaning to GPON instead of active for delivery so don't think I'm going to use them now. If interested get me off list and I'll give you more info I may have a dozen or so. Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 From: "Fred Goldstein" <f...@interisle.net> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 7:08 PM To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: [WISPA] Active Ethernet switches For a small outdoor or semi-outdoor (not a/c) deployment of a couple of dozen ports or so, what's a good cheap Active Ethernet switch? This would be to supplement wireless and focus on business customers, so Active makes more sense. Thanks. -- Fred R. Goldstein k1io fred "at" interisle.net Interisle Consulting Group +1 617 795 2701 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Someone has to be in the market for good quality 5ghz dual pol sectors
Type N female x 2 Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 From: "Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 11:06 AM To: sc...@flhsi.com, "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Someone has to be in the market for good quality 5ghz dual pol sectors What kind of connector? Do they have a mount for Ubiquiti? On Feb 27, 2017, at 11:00, Scott Carullo <sc...@flhsi.com> wrote: I have pallets of them lol - I was supposed to be able to use some and sell some. Plan not working so well KP Performance 5Ghz Dual Polarity Sectors PN: KPPA-5GHZDP 120S (5GHz 120 degree 16.3 dBi Dual Pol Sector GEN III) Any reasonable offer... and maybe even an unreasonable one gets you some antennas. Help a brother out !!! Hit me off list Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Someone has to be in the market for good quality 5ghz dual pol sectors
I have pallets of them lol - I was supposed to be able to use some and sell some. Plan not working so well KP Performance 5Ghz Dual Polarity Sectors PN: KPPA-5GHZDP 120S (5GHz 120 degree 16.3 dBi Dual Pol Sector GEN III) Any reasonable offer... and maybe even an unreasonable one gets you some antennas. Help a brother out !!! Hit me off list Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] KP Performance Reflector Dishes and Sectors
Hello I have excess inventory I'd like to share with you for X-mas so you can start he new year with a big smile. All new in the box from Manufacturer. KP Performance Reflector Dishes for UBNT radios PN: UB24EWIFIDB $25 each KP Performance Reflector Dishes for Cambium radios PN: RK24EWIFIDBI * I need to double check these I believe this is the PN... $35 each KP Performance 5Ghz Dual Polarity Sectors PN: KPPA-5GHZDP 120S (5GHz 120 degree 16.3 dBi Dual Pol Sector GEN III) $200 each You pay actual shipping. Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Need a ~60ft pole to mount a 2ft dish on
Whats the best option? Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Cable labels plastic with slot that wrap around cable
I consider myself a decent google searcher :) Unable to find what I am looking for (just tried again adding uline to the criteria). I may have to post to fiber list I think its more tailored to their industry... Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 From: "Jeff Evans" <jev...@pennwisp.com> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 5:30 PM To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cable labels plastic with slot that wrap around cable Uline, dumb phone. Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Original message From: Jeff Evans <jev...@pennwisp.com> Date: 9/2/16 4:21 PM (GMT-05:00) To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cable labels plastic with slot that wrap around cable Urine, Google cable tags or labels there's hundreds of them Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Original message From: Scott Reed <sc...@sbrconsulting-llc.com> Date: 9/2/16 4:04 PM (GMT-05:00) To: sc...@flhsi.com, WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cable labels plastic with slot that wrap around cable I would expect Panduit does similar. Check with your local electrical supply house.On 9/2/2016 1:25 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: maybe half inch hole in the middle you can put them around cable up to that size - like a fiber or ethernet cable. The plastic flexes and they can be used outside. Who uses them and where do you get them from etc having hard time locating what I want. Like this - just need a little smaller http://www.safetysign.com/products/p29327/fiber-optic-cable-marker Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Any two wire copper phone line box recommendations?
We have some little netsys boxes that have worked ok over the years, looking to replace them as they seem to be having some issues. Could be the cable, but its time to ask and see if there may be a better option... Just box to box ethernet converter similar to these: https://www.amazon.com/Kit-NV-202EKIT-HyperXtender-Ethernet-Extender/dp/B006 7N3C4A/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc=UTF8=1473168185=1-2-spons=ethernet +extender=1 Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Cable labels plastic with slot that wrap around cable
maybe half inch hole in the middle you can put them around cable up to that size - like a fiber or ethernet cable. The plastic flexes and they can be used outside. Who uses them and where do you get them from etc having hard time locating what I want. Like this - just need a little smaller http://www.safetysign.com/products/p29327/fiber-optic-cable-marker Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Sample traffic study for FCC 499A anyone?
Looking for a sample, we need to submit traffic study wondering how others have presented it. Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Bartow Fl
We may be able to help you out, hit me off-list with info if you are still looking. Scott Carullo Technical Operations Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x102 From: "Jeff Evans" <jev...@pennwisp.com> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 7:29 PM To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>, memb...@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Bartow Fl Anyone service Bartow Fl? -- Jeff Evans, Managing Member PennWisp, LLC www.pennwisp.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Solar setup recommendations...
I have a new site that needs to be powered by solar. Needs to run a MT 2011 router and 4 UBNT rocket 5Ghz radios. Would like it to be 24v based since that is what all the equipment requires. Also a battery recommendation would be super, controller etc. Its all being mounted outside on a pipe which is chain mounted to a monopole tower at 60ft. Just need the shopping list to make this happen. I appreciate your input and your time, thanks. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Off topic sorta power question....
Ok... sorry to beat this horse but I'm apparently not following you. There are three lugs my shiny new male plug has. 1-120v leg1 from single phase source 2-120v leg2 from single phase source 3- Neutral wire which bonds to ground at building main panel from power company. Cloud Core has three wires feeding the power supply. 1-120v leg (1 or 2) from single phase source 2-Neutral 3-Ground A) I completely understand how I can take a single 120v wire from leg1 or leg2 of the power source and then take the neutral to both neutral and ground of the router power supply and make this work - thats easy - but not code. B) I also understand how I could take a neutral, a ground and one hot wire with voltage anywhere from 110-250v and it will work with cloud core power supply. (but not I do not have this configuration at source) C) I do not understand how you can take two hots and a neutral and turn that into anything (just by using a cable) that the router can use unless that cable is doing nothing more than what I described above in A Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 8:53 AM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off topic sorta power question Here is the info on AC power arrangement http://www.oempanels.com/what-does-single-and-three-phase-power-mean The CCR specs show it having : Dual power supplies for redundancy, 110-250V input, IEC connectors which means that, you can use either 110 or 220 or 240 on the same power supply. All you would have to do is match the power cables... Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 11:55:36 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off topic sorta power question Cloud core. There is a difference between having a hot (80-250v), a neutral and a ground, vs. a neutral and two 120v hots. I believe the router can handle more than 120v but not in the sense that its being delivered on two 120v legs with a neutral and no ground. Its a 3 prong twist lock type receptacle. If there is a way I'd like to be educated (aside from pulling one of the hots and hooking the neutral to ground as well on my new non-code engineered power cable. Educate me. I think I'm just going to plug it into the normal 120v 20amp plug on the wall behind the rack though, seems like the best way forward considering the options I was just trying to accommodate the customers request prior to plan B. Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 3:21 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off topic sorta power question Everything can use 240 now days probably just need a new power cord On Nov 5, 2014 12:10 PM, Bob M lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:Keep in mind that it is breakered for 240. Splitting the legs after a 240 vac circuit breaker is not code. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Brett Woollum br...@tekify.com Date:11/05/2014 12:00 PM (GMT-05:00) To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off topic sorta power question Tim, In most cases you can split the hot leads on the 240v outlet into two 120v circuits. There are adapter pigtails for this if you don't want to hardware it. From memory, our local hardware store sells these (in the US). A quick Google search revealed this: http://www.wayfair.com/Champion-Power-Equipment-Generator-Y-Adapter-for-Cham pion-Power-Equipment-48035-L771-K~CXP1067.html?refid=GX50899353420-CXP1067d evice=cptid=75696510540gclid=CJ_Fktv348ECFUdffgod3z4ANw Brett Woollum Senior Sales Engineer br...@tekify.com Tekify Broadband Internet Services Web: http://www.tekify.com Phone: 510-266-5800, ext 6200 From: Tim Way t...@way.vg To: sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 7:50:52 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off topic sorta power question I would think something like this might be the safer option: http://www.certifiedmtp.com/step-up-step-down-transformer-500w/?gclid=CNWj1K ro48ECFQipaQodB74ADQ That said I'm not an electrician and I think that question might be best answered by one. Tim Way On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.comwrote: I need to place a 120v normal 1U router in a rack that only
[WISPA] Off topic sorta power question....
I need to place a 120v normal 1U router in a rack that only has 240v twist lock receptacles available for power. I need to put a UPS there so I just looked for a 240v UPS with the right plugs but because they are made for a lot larger load they were way bigger (and more expensive) than what I was looking for. SO... anyone have a better way to do this? I have considered taking one leg and bonding the neutral and ground, but. Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Off topic sorta power question....
Cloud core. There is a difference between having a hot (80-250v), a neutral and a ground, vs. a neutral and two 120v hots. I believe the router can handle more than 120v but not in the sense that its being delivered on two 120v legs with a neutral and no ground. Its a 3 prong twist lock type receptacle. If there is a way I'd like to be educated (aside from pulling one of the hots and hooking the neutral to ground as well on my new non-code engineered power cable. Educate me. I think I'm just going to plug it into the normal 120v 20amp plug on the wall behind the rack though, seems like the best way forward considering the options I was just trying to accommodate the customers request prior to plan B. Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 3:21 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off topic sorta power question Everything can use 240 now days probably just need a new power cord On Nov 5, 2014 12:10 PM, Bob M lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:Keep in mind that it is breakered for 240. Splitting the legs after a 240 vac circuit breaker is not code. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Brett Woollum br...@tekify.com Date:11/05/2014 12:00 PM (GMT-05:00) To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off topic sorta power question Tim, In most cases you can split the hot leads on the 240v outlet into two 120v circuits. There are adapter pigtails for this if you don't want to hardware it. From memory, our local hardware store sells these (in the US). A quick Google search revealed this: http://www.wayfair.com/Champion-Power-Equipment-Generator-Y-Adapter-for-Cham pion-Power-Equipment-48035-L771-K~CXP1067.html?refid=GX50899353420-CXP1067d evice=cptid=75696510540gclid=CJ_Fktv348ECFUdffgod3z4ANw Brett Woollum Senior Sales Engineer br...@tekify.com Tekify Broadband Internet Services Web: http://www.tekify.com Phone: 510-266-5800 , ext 6200 From: Tim Way t...@way.vg To: sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 7:50:52 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off topic sorta power question I would think something like this might be the safer option: http://www.certifiedmtp.com/step-up-step-down-transformer-500w/?gclid=CNWj1K ro48ECFQipaQodB74ADQ That said I'm not an electrician and I think that question might be best answered by one. Tim Way On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: I need to place a 120v normal 1U router in a rack that only has 240v twist lock receptacles available for power. I need to put a UPS there so I just looked for a 240v UPS with the right plugs but because they are made for a lot larger load they were way bigger (and more expensive) than what I was looking for. SO... anyone have a better way to do this? I have considered taking one leg and bonding the neutral and ground, but. Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Watchguard XTM5s NIB available
Yeah I have some too that are used for next to nothing... acquired from company we got assets from. Hit me off-list I can get you more info. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Leon D. Zetekoff wa4...@backwoodswireless.net Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 7:47 AM To: memb...@wispa.org, wireless@wispa.org Cc: userrk1...@gmail.com Subject: [WISPA] Watchguard XTM5s NIB available Hi there! Sorry for any cross-posting, but trying to get this out to the widest audience. Any questions, feel free to post me privately at wa4...@arrl.net. We have a lot of 13 new in boxes as follows all with the three year live security bundle. These were purchased and never used and have been sitting on a shelf and we can offer them at a good price. XTM510 - 8 - $3195 each OBO XTM520 - 1 - $6795 each OBO XTM530 - 4 - $8195 each OBO The hardware is all the same, the software keys change the box configuration. These all come with the 3 year live security bundle. I have a lot of 7 and rich has a lot of 6. We would like to get rid of them easily so I am offering these to you and some other folks before I list them on eBay. Pricing wise, we are going to price them you pay for two years and get three years. We have letter of authorization to dispose of these as we see fit. I also, for a separate discussion, have used E Series (X550e, X750e, X1250e) as well as used XTMs (510/520/530) which we will dispose of after this first lot. The E series have 250 mb ram with a 1200mhz celeron I believe in them and you can slap RouterOS on it like the old X series. The XTMs, some have existing live feature keys and some not, but those are still fully supported boxes like the new in box ones. Info is below. Time is of the essence as these have to move and please let me know ASAP as my listings are ready I just have to get approval to list more than $5000. These boxes are end of sale BUT they are totally current and upgradable as well as extendible licensing. The 510s and 520s can be upgraded to a 530 with a new license key and buy upgrading to the PRO license you get dynamic routing, etc: Powered by Fireware® XTM and XTM Pro*** As network requirements become more complex, it's easy to upgrade to the Pro version of the OS with a simple software license key. Networking Features Fireware XTMFireware XTM Pro Routing Static, dynamic routing (RIP) Dynamic (BGP4, OSPF, RIP v1/2), Policy-base High Availability- Active/passive, active/active with load balancin NAT Static, dynamic, 1:1, IPSec traversal, policy-based Virtual IP for server load balancing SSL 1 SSL tunnel available Maximum number of SSL tunnels available Other Features Port Independence, transparent/drop-in mode, multi-WAN failover Server load balancing, multi-WAN load balancing Finish your draft listing WatchGuard XTM 510 with 3 year Security Bundle - WATCHGUARD WG510033 - XTM510* Category: Computers/Tablets Networking Enterprise Networking, Servers Firewall VPN Devices [ Delete ] *Edited Jul-04. WatchGuard XTM 520 with 3 year Security Bundle - WATCHGUARD WG520033 - XTM520* Category: Computers/Tablets Networking Enterprise Networking, Servers Firewall VPN Devices [ Delete ] *Edited Jul-04. WatchGuard XTM 530 with 3 year Security Bundle - WATCHGUARD WG530033 - XTM530* Category: Computers/Tablets Networking Enterprise Networking, Servers Firewall VPN Devices [ Delete ] *Edited Jul-04. Specifications: WatchGuard Model XTM 505 XTM 510 XTM 520 XTM 530 Throughput Connections Firewall Throughput* 1.5 Gbps1.8 Gbps 2.2 Gbps2.6 Gbps VPN Throughput* 210 Mbps350 Mbps550 Mbps750 Mbps AV Throughput* 520 Mbps625 Mbps760 Mbps900 Mbps IPS Throughput* 500 Mbps600 Mbps735 Mbps870 Mbps XTM Throughput* 330 Mbps395 Mbps480 Mbps570 Mbps Interfaces 10/1001 copper1 copper 1 copper1 copper
Re: [WISPA] USAF Request - Read this is you want to keep using 5630-5800 Mhz
Update Last week we (along with other RF users in the community) were invited to the AFB to meet the folks that run the radar there and to see the spectrum analyzer screens. During this meeting, it was discussed that what the AF was trying to accomplish was to remove all users within 60Km from using 5630-5800Mhz. It was discussed that this seemed to be a doomed request because of the sheer number of users in the spectrum within such a large geographical area. How would they remove all users from this spectrum, even within several miles of the radar... lots of hotels, condos, businesses etc... literally thousands of them. I'm not sure if they are going after the low hanging identifiable fruit or if they really plan on going door to door... They said things were sort of in a holding pattern with the FCC because they were contacted by a WISPA rep and others and there were some discussions going on above our pay grade locally. Well, here we are today. I guess the outcome of those meetings was that we need to stop using the spectrum identified. Here is the email sent from the FCC field officer to the local range folks that was forwarded to me: === FROM: FCC Agent TO: CONNOLLEY, SCOTT D GS-13 USAF AFSPC 45 SCS/SCOT Subject: Meeting to discuss Interference to Radar at Patrick AFB Scott, I've reviewed your report concerning radio interference to a C-Band (5 GHz) tracking radar at Patrick AFB. I understand that you have contacted several of the Wireless Internet Service Providers (WISP's) in the area to advise them of the problem and have been met with some resistance to assist you. I would like to have a meeting with you and the WISP's to discuss this problem and open up a discussion as to what steps can be taken to find a solution. WISP's operate under Part 15 of the FCC Rules and may not cause harmful interference. 47 C.F.R. § 15.5 General conditions of operation. (a) Persons operating intentional or unintentional radiators shall not be deemed to have any vested or recognizable right to continued use of any given frequency by virtue of prior registration or certification of equipment, or, for power line carrier systems, on the basis of prior notification of use pursuant to §90.35(g) of this chapter. (b) Operation of an intentional, unintentional, or incidental radiator is subject to the conditions that no harmful interference is caused and that interference must be accepted that may be caused by the operation of an authorized radio station, by another intentional or unintentional radiator, by industrial, scientific and medical (ISM) equipment, or by an incidental radiator. (c) The operator of a radio frequency device shall be required to cease operating the device upon notification by a Commission representative that the device is causing harmful interference. Operation shall not resume until the condition causing the harmful interference has been corrected. (d) Intentional radiators that produce Class B emissions (damped wave) are prohibited. I propose that we have our first meeting on Wednesday, 6/18/14, at Patrick AFB. Thanks, Don Roberson Sr. Agent Tampa Office Enforcement Bureau FCC Office: 813-348-1741 ext 105 === So, its that easy? Local AF guy makes a request whether reasonable or not, and thats the way it is? I understand moving off the 5765Mhz and having guard space on either side maybe 20Mhz, but they want the whole band to stop being used whether its even in the radar LOS or not, which is an unreasonable request, IMO. This meeting of the minds will apparently happen this coming Wednesday here locally. Anyone have anything to add, other than good luck? Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 12:49 PM To: sc...@flhsi.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] USAF Request - Read this is you want to keep using 5630-5800 Mhz Yes. Thanks ! On 6/2/2014 9:24 AM, Scott Carullo wrote: Does this work: Scott Connolley, GS-13, DAF DoD Eastern Area Frequency Coordination Office 45 Space Communications Squadron Patrick Air Force Base Florida COMM: (321) 494-5838 DSN 854 scott.connol...@us.af.mil Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 12:20 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] USAF Request - Read this is you want to keep using 5630-5800 Mhz Guys, I'm working on getting some clarification on this issue. Let's try to hold off on the public
Re: [WISPA] USAF Request - Read this is you want to keep using 5630-5800 Mhz
Thats going to be something we bring up at the meeting. Its going to boil down to a they say vs we say - who do you think is going to lose that battle? They are claiming a radio operating on 5795 on 20Mhz channel will interfere with their radar on 5765 with about a 1Mhz channel width. Further-more, the RFI they are getting on 5765 is not from the radar, its from a beacon the radar interrogates on a space launch vehicle so in other words - the radar only listens on this freq. If they say my radio on 5800Mhz is interfering with their 5765Mhz beacon who gets involved with resolving that? I think the guys that work there are nice fellas, but I conducted my own test during our testing. I turned a radio off, they said - oh looks a lot better. Sounded suspect to me. Next radio I said ok its off (didn't change anything - again it was a test) and they said ok lots better... They just want them all off without regards of the true scientific difference. If FCC is going to get involved they need to just issue a notice in this area and specify what they believe needs to happen to resolve this - not just go on whatever the radar operator says IMO I believe we could all co-exist with a notch cut out from 5755 to 5775. At least thats somewhat reasonable for us if not still difficult to enforce for the general public buying 5Ghz APs from wal mart Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 1:49 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] USAF Request - Read this is you want to keep using 5630-5800 Mhz If your radio is causing interference to a licensed radio they have -- they can say shut it down. Otherwise a request of shut everything down on the band I don't think holds water On 6/12/14, 1:31 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: Update Last week we (along with other RF users in the community) were invited to the AFB to meet the folks that run the radar there and to see the spectrum analyzer screens. During this meeting, it was discussed that what the AF was trying to accomplish was to remove all users within 60Km from using 5630-5800Mhz. It was discussed that this seemed to be a doomed request because of the sheer number of users in the spectrum within such a large geographical area. How would they remove all users from this spectrum, even within several miles of the radar... lots of hotels, condos, businesses etc... literally thousands of them. I'm not sure if they are going after the low hanging identifiable fruit or if they really plan on going door to door... They said things were sort of in a holding pattern with the FCC because they were contacted by a WISPA rep and others and there were some discussions going on above our pay grade locally. Well, here we are today. I guess the outcome of those meetings was that we need to stop using the spectrum identified. Here is the email sent from the FCC field officer to the local range folks that was forwarded to me: === FROM: FCC Agent TO: CONNOLLEY, SCOTT D GS-13 USAF AFSPC 45 SCS/SCOT Subject: Meeting to discuss Interference to Radar at Patrick AFB Scott, I've reviewed your report concerning radio interference to a C-Band (5 GHz) tracking radar at Patrick AFB. I understand that you have contacted several of the Wireless Internet Service Providers (WISP's) in the area to advise them of the problem and have been met with some resistance to assist you. I would like to have a meeting with you and the WISP's to discuss this problem and open up a discussion as to what steps can be taken to find a solution. WISP's operate under Part 15 of the FCC Rules and may not cause harmful interference. 47 C.F.R. § 15.5 General conditions of operation. (a) Persons operating intentional or unintentional radiators shall not be deemed to have any vested or recognizable right to continued use of any given frequency by virtue of prior registration or certification of equipment, or, for power line carrier systems, on the basis of prior notification of use pursuant to §90.35(g) of this chapter. (b) Operation of an intentional, unintentional, or incidental radiator is subject to the conditions that no harmful interference is caused and that interference must be accepted that may be caused by the operation of an authorized radio station, by another intentional or unintentional radiator, by industrial, scientific and medical (ISM) equipment, or by an incidental radiator. (c) The operator of a radio frequency device shall be required to cease operating the device upon notification by a Commission representative that the device is causing harmful interference. Operation shall not resume until the condition causing the harmful interference has been corrected. (d) Intentional radiators
Re: [WISPA] USAF Request - Read this is you want to keep using 5630-5800 Mhz
I've already looked at their SA screens. Remember they have a multi-million dollar receiver attached to a giant 15 meter or so movable dish that can hear down below -120db. I'm not sure how it could have seen one weak radio the way stuff was updating on their flat-screen computer monitors (like white-noise on an old TV screen). As a matter of fact, they couldn't have seen that from the screen they were looking at. They have no idea if the RF they see is from a mile away or 20 miles away, from the side etc... Besides getting into the radar building is a fairly monumental task as far as working with them. Their main RF guy supposedly proposed a sliver about 20 degrees wide heading about 5 degrees north towards the launch pads where the radar looks be the area they wanted RFI removed from. Then they decided at a meeting that just drawing a large 60Km circle around the three radars was easier and safer for their request. Thats when this whole issue went from reasonable to unreasonable. That dish can't hear an access point 60Km away on the back-side or side lobe. Therefore that area should not be included just because it was easier to write. I'm not convinced they have the staff capable of preparing an appropriate request Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 2:35 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] USAF Request - Read this is you want to keep using 5630-5800 Mhz Regarding the suspect looks a lot better, my suggestion would be bring a laptop that you can use to access your network remotely and, while you're all there looking at their analyzers, turn off and/or change channels on your radios. It will be harder to make flippant subjective calls like that in a group. If you can show that a minor channel change makes a difference, or better yet that you're not really the interferer, then you may end up with a workable solution. On the flip side, it could backfire and it really is lots better with your radios off. Just like the TDWR interference in Vegas, it seems that cooperation in finding the cause, and fixing it, will go a long way and avoid the shotgun approach. -Kristian On 06/12/2014 11:23 AM, Scott Carullo wrote: Thats going to be something we bring up at the meeting. Its going to boil down to a they say vs we say - who do you think is going to lose that battle? They are claiming a radio operating on 5795 on 20Mhz channel will interfere with their radar on 5765 with about a 1Mhz channel width. Further-more, the RFI they are getting on 5765 is not from the radar, its from a beacon the radar interrogates on a space launch vehicle so in other words - the radar only listens on this freq. If they say my radio on 5800Mhz is interfering with their 5765Mhz beacon who gets involved with resolving that? I think the guys that work there are nice fellas, but I conducted my own test during our testing. I turned a radio off, they said - oh looks a lot better. Sounded suspect to me. Next radio I said ok its off (didn't change anything - again it was a test) and they said ok lots better... They just want them all off without regards of the true scientific difference. If FCC is going to get involved they need to just issue a notice in this area and specify what they believe needs to happen to resolve this - not just go on whatever the radar operator says IMO I believe we could all co-exist with a notch cut out from 5755 to 5775. At least thats somewhat reasonable for us if not still difficult to enforce for the general public buying 5Ghz APs from wal mart Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 1:49 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] USAF Request - Read this is you want to keep using 5630-5800 Mhz If your radio is causing interference to a licensed radio they have -- they can say shut it down. Otherwise a request of shut everything down on the band I don't think holds water On 6/12/14, 1:31 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: Update Last week we (along with other RF users in the community) were invited to the AFB to meet the folks that run the radar there and to see the spectrum analyzer screens. During this meeting, it was discussed that what the AF was trying to accomplish was to remove all users within 60Km from using 5630-5800Mhz. It was discussed that this seemed to be a doomed request because of the sheer number of users in the spectrum within such a large geographical area. How would they remove all users from this spectrum, even within several miles of the radar... lots of hotels, condos, businesses etc... literally thousands of them. I'm not sure if they are going after the low
[WISPA] USAF Request - Read this is you want to keep using 5630-5800 Mhz
I am following up in hopes that some of you smart fellas can offer suggestions. Recap: USAF Calls / emails asking to please identify all 5Ghz emitters operating on or near 5765Mhz and either turn them off or change RF settings to not fall under that category so that RFI to their tracking radar can be reduced. How the radar works: Apparently the radar has multiple modes for tracking / interrogating space-bound craft. In its primary mode, it sends a pulse out on 5672Mhz and then listens for the echo (normal radar operation). It then has another mode, where it sends an interrogation request to the vehicle (satellite / rocket etc) on 5690Mhz and then listens for a reply from the vehicle on 5765Mhz at least for some commercial space launches. DoD military launches etc. also are tracked / interrogated this same way but the listen freq. is something other than 5765Mhz (probably classified). So - the prob the USAF has with RFI is related to hearing the vehicle interrogation response on 5765Mhz - and only while sitting on the pad and the first few seconds of flight. A few seconds after launch, the gigantic parabolic dish (~65db gain on 5Ghz) with its 1deg beam-width has effectively muted out most of the RFI to the sides as it starts to track up. We (and others / cable company etc) worked with them to not only re-program our equipment we felt could be causing RFI to their radar, but to track down others we could see operating equipment centered on their 5765Mhz freq. We were able to continue this process until the radar was able to track / interrogate successfully, from what information I was relayed. We attempted to work with them to be good neighbors and hopefully avoid a situation where we were told all emitters regardless of their effect on the radar (even ones that were not causing them issues) would need to be removed from service in some fashion. Here we are today. The USAF has now decided to create a 60Km zone around each of their tracking radars and request that we not only keep equipment off the 5765Mhz they listen on but everything in the range from 5630 - 5800 Mhz just for good measure. I feel such a blanket request is not reasonable. Cut and past from their DoD Eastern Area Frequency Coordination Office: === Mr WISP, I received the 5 GHz exclusion the range is requesting around their radars (Graphic available here: http://flhsi.com/files/radar.PNG ). The spheres are centered on each radar and have a radius of 60 km. No emitters in these spheres should be allowed to transmit from 5630 - 5800 MHz. I am drafting up a request for public notice to FCC today. When approved, I will let you know. === So my question is this Is it realistic or even remotely possible this becomes an FCC official rule? I would ask anyone / everyone with a vested interest in this (do you use 5Ghz?) to respond. Thank you for your time. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 12:02 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Air Force Base / KSC Launch RFI Question Good morning, We operate between two local Air Force bases and near KSC as well. We were notified recently that the AFB has resorted to using an older radar system that was previously retired due to the newer range radar system catching fire or something to that effect. During the two months or so the repairs are expected to take we have had several space launches scheduled during this window from CCAFS / KSC. The USAF has fired up the old radar and has recently contacted us asking about equipment we have in the area at customer premises. I asked the frequency coordinator what freq their radar uses he said the center freq was 5735 and that it had a very wide bandwidth of like 100 Mhz basically taking the whole ISM/UNII bands worth of spectrum in 5Ghz. So any way to the point... When the USAF shows up and says hey, I see you are using FCC approved equipment in accordance to the FCC spectrum rules the equipment was designed to operate in on freq 5765Mhz - but I need you to turn it off to see if its your equipment we are seeing - and if it is please change freq preferably below 5600 MHz or above 5850 MHz (actual quoted request). Obviously we can't accommodate their request for several reasons,most notably because the equipment nor the FCC allows it. I'm just curious if any of you have had anything like this happen and what your response was / would be. I try to be a nice neighbor and work with them any way possible but them trying to shut down the whole 5Ghz non-licensed upper band all our equipment uses (including every other cable and wireline providers wifi 5Ghz equipment in the county) to work their range RFI issues is a bit much and ultimately unattainable within
Re: [WISPA] USAF Request - Read this is you want to keep using 5630-5800 Mhz
One reply off-list: Just wanted to share for the benefit of this discussion 1. Why do you think the spectrum is license free. It cannot be licensed by the FCC, it still belongs to NTIA, who manages Federal spectrum. 2.The FCC secured a grant from NTIA for the use of spectrum, ON A SECONDARY BASIS, for civilian use. There are chunks of this all across the spectrum from DC to light. 3. If the feds need it of any purpose they have the right to demand all secondary users vacate the spectrum. 4. For use as a business model, this is a risk that one MUST manage. Have an amount of licensed spectrum to keep operational with diminished capacity while feds are sitting on your un-licensed stuff. 5. Radar used for national defense takes precedence over everything. Even those on adjacent licensed spectrum can be impacted when some of these radar units fire up. These users can contact the local NTIA frequency management office and report the interference and the feds have to minimize the interference, but their mission cannot be compromised. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 12:13 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: RE: [WISPA] USAF Request - Read this is you want to keep using 5630-5800 Mhz I'd be shocked if the military could claim unilateral authority for restricting 170 MHz of long-established ISM spectrum (nor 120 MHz of UNII). I hope we read an authoritative opinion via from Steve Coran. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 11:52 AM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List; wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] USAF Request - Read this is you want to keep using 5630-5800 Mhz I am following up in hopes that some of you smart fellas can offer suggestions. Recap: USAF Calls / emails asking to please identify all 5Ghz emitters operating on or near 5765Mhz and either turn them off or change RF settings to not fall under that category so that RFI to their tracking radar can be reduced. How the radar works: Apparently the radar has multiple modes for tracking / interrogating space-bound craft. In its primary mode, it sends a pulse out on 5672Mhz and then listens for the echo (normal radar operation). It then has another mode, where it sends an interrogation request to the vehicle (satellite / rocket etc) on 5690Mhz and then listens for a reply from the vehicle on 5765Mhz at least for some commercial space launches. DoD military launches etc. also are tracked / interrogated this same way but the listen freq. is something other than 5765Mhz (probably classified). So - the prob the USAF has with RFI is related to hearing the vehicle interrogation response on 5765Mhz - and only while sitting on the pad and the first few seconds of flight. A few seconds after launch, the gigantic parabolic dish (~65db gain on 5Ghz) with its 1deg beam-width has effectively muted out most of the RFI to the sides as it starts to track up. We (and others / cable company etc) worked with them to not only re-program our equipment we felt could be causing RFI to their radar, but to track down others we could see operating equipment centered on their 5765Mhz freq. We were able to continue this process until the radar was able to track / interrogate successfully, from what information I was relayed. We attempted to work with them to be good neighbors and hopefully avoid a situation where we were told all emitters regardless of their effect on the radar (even ones that were not causing them issues) would need to be removed from service in some fashion. Here we are today. The USAF has now decided to create a 60Km zone around each of their tracking radars and request that we not only keep equipment off the 5765Mhz they listen on but everything in the range from 5630 - 5800 Mhz just for good measure. I feel such a blanket request is not reasonable. Cut and past from their DoD Eastern Area Frequency Coordination Office: === Mr WISP, I received the 5 GHz exclusion the range is requesting around their radars (Graphic available here: http://flhsi.com/files/radar.PNG ). The spheres are centered on each radar and have a radius of 60 km. No emitters in these spheres should be allowed to transmit from 5630 - 5800 MHz. I am drafting up a request for public notice to FCC today. When approved, I will let you know. === So my question is this Is it realistic or even remotely possible this becomes an FCC official rule? I would ask anyone / everyone with a vested interest in this (do you use 5Ghz?) to respond. Thank you for your time. Scott Carullo Technical
Re: [WISPA] USAF Request - Read this is you want to keep using 5630-5800 Mhz
Does this work: Scott Connolley, GS-13, DAF DoD Eastern Area Frequency Coordination Office 45 Space Communications Squadron Patrick Air Force Base Florida COMM: (321) 494-5838 DSN 854 scott.connol...@us.af.mil Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 12:20 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] USAF Request - Read this is you want to keep using 5630-5800 Mhz Guys, I'm working on getting some clarification on this issue. Let's try to hold off on the public speculation for a little while on this very public email list while I try to get more information. If anyone has additional concrete information, please email it to me. Specifically, does anyone have a link to DoD Eastern Area Frequency Coordination Office? Thanks, jack On 6/2/2014 9:13 AM, Patrick Leary wrote: I'd be shocked if the military could claim unilateral authority for restricting 170 MHz of long-established ISM spectrum (nor 120 MHz of UNII). I hope we read an authoritative opinion via from Steve Coran. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 11:52 AM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List; wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] USAF Request - Read this is you want to keep using 5630-5800 Mhz I am following up in hopes that some of you smart fellas can offer suggestions. Recap: USAF Calls / emails asking to please identify all 5Ghz emitters operating on or near 5765Mhz and either turn them off or change RF settings to not fall under that category so that RFI to their tracking radar can be reduced. How the radar works: Apparently the radar has multiple modes for tracking / interrogating space-bound craft. In its primary mode, it sends a pulse out on 5672Mhz and then listens for the echo (normal radar operation). It then has another mode, where it sends an interrogation request to the vehicle (satellite / rocket etc) on 5690Mhz and then listens for a reply from the vehicle on 5765Mhz at least for some commercial space launches. DoD military launches etc. also are tracked / interrogated this same way but the listen freq. is something other than 5765Mhz (probably classified). So - the prob the USAF has with RFI is related to hearing the vehicle interrogation response on 5765Mhz - and only while sitting on the pad and the first few seconds of flight. A few seconds after launch, the gigantic parabolic dish (~65db gain on 5Ghz) with its 1deg beam-width has effectively muted out most of the RFI to the sides as it starts to track up. We (and others / cable company etc) worked with them to not only re-program our equipment we felt could be causing RFI to their radar, but to track down others we could see operating equipment centered on their 5765Mhz freq. We were able to continue this process until the radar was able to track / interrogate successfully, from what information I was relayed. We attempted to work with them to be good neighbors and hopefully avoid a situation where we were told all emitters regardless of their effect on the radar (even ones that were not causing them issues) would need to be removed from service in some fashion. Here we are today. The USAF has now decided to create a 60Km zone around each of their tracking radars and request that we not only keep equipment off the 5765Mhz they listen on but everything in the range from 5630 - 5800 Mhz just for good measure. I feel such a blanket request is not reasonable. Cut and past from their DoD Eastern Area Frequency Coordination Office: === Mr WISP, I received the 5 GHz exclusion the range is requesting around their radars (Graphic available here: http://flhsi.com/files/radar.PNG ). The spheres are centered on each radar and have a radius of 60 km. No emitters in these spheres should be allowed to transmit from 5630 - 5800 MHz. I am drafting up a request for public notice to FCC today. When approved, I will let you know. === So my question is this Is it realistic or even remotely possible this becomes an FCC official rule? I would ask anyone / everyone with a vested interest in this (do you use 5Ghz?) to respond. Thank you for your time. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 12:02 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Air
[WISPA] Need 50Mb highly symmetrical service in Dallas, Texas
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Re: [WISPA] Small IP PBX - Grandstream UCM
Oh yeah - I should have noted - we have one running at customer site for 16 phones and its a blueberry pie or whatever those things are called lol. Cost less than 100 bucks and we even have two network interfaces on them (one usb) Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Bryce Duchcherer bduc...@netago.ca Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:16 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: RE: [WISPA] Small IP PBX - Grandstream UCM I have one of these coming in to try out, they're dirt cheap and are supposed to be decent. They support up to 8 calls and are supposed to run on asterisk. http://www.atcom.cn/IP02.html Bryce D NETAGO From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 16:08 To: WISPA General List; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small IP PBX - Grandstream UCM I've never been a fan of anything grandstream has ever made so I wouldn't go there. JMO Get some other solution for the PBX (running your own software on a nice little atom works great / some flavor of asterisk) and do yourself a favor and pick up some yealink phones. The name kept me away from the longest time but I have tried dozens of phones and right now a T46G is on my desk and I won't give it up. Great price too. Best phone I have ever used and previously I had polycom soundpoint 650. This one hands down is a better solution and its half the price. Sh... don't tell everyone I need them in stock! Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 1:29 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small IP PBX - Grandstream UCM It seems like a box on site would make routing/nat issues easier to manage especially for customers who may not have our Internet or want to keep a second internet provider for redundancy. It seems like a bunch of ip phones behind nat connecting up to our switch or a hosted solution would be problematic. If you have a suggestion on a solid solution i'm all ears, want to learn whats available and how others are doing this. On May 14, 2014 1:21 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net wrote: Why do you want to put a 'box' on-site ? Why not hosted PBX, and have IP Phones ? Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net From: Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 11:40:10 PM Subject: [WISPA] Small IP PBX - Grandstream UCM Anyone tried out this Grandstream IP PBX? Looking for a low cost option we can use for small businesses with 4-8 phones. Also need to redo our office phones so I have a nice chance to try out a new product before selling one to a customer. Any suggestions other than the grandstream are welcome too. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Small IP PBX - Grandstream UCM
I've never been a fan of anything grandstream has ever made so I wouldn't go there. JMO Get some other solution for the PBX (running your own software on a nice little atom works great / some flavor of asterisk) and do yourself a favor and pick up some yealink phones. The name kept me away from the longest time but I have tried dozens of phones and right now a T46G is on my desk and I won't give it up. Great price too. Best phone I have ever used and previously I had polycom soundpoint 650. This one hands down is a better solution and its half the price. Sh... don't tell everyone I need them in stock! Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 1:29 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small IP PBX - Grandstream UCM It seems like a box on site would make routing/nat issues easier to manage especially for customers who may not have our Internet or want to keep a second internet provider for redundancy. It seems like a bunch of ip phones behind nat connecting up to our switch or a hosted solution would be problematic. If you have a suggestion on a solid solution i'm all ears, want to learn whats available and how others are doing this. On May 14, 2014 1:21 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net wrote: Why do you want to put a 'box' on-site ? Why not hosted PBX, and have IP Phones ? Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net From: Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 11:40:10 PM Subject: [WISPA] Small IP PBX - Grandstream UCM Anyone tried out this Grandstream IP PBX? Looking for a low cost option we can use for small businesses with 4-8 phones. Also need to redo our office phones so I have a nice chance to try out a new product before selling one to a customer. Any suggestions other than the grandstream are welcome too. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Air Force Base / KSC Launch RFI Question
Good morning, We operate between two local Air Force bases and near KSC as well. We were notified recently that the AFB has resorted to using an older radar system that was previously retired due to the newer range radar system catching fire or something to that effect. During the two months or so the repairs are expected to take we have had several space launches scheduled during this window from CCAFS / KSC. The USAF has fired up the old radar and has recently contacted us asking about equipment we have in the area at customer premises. I asked the frequency coordinator what freq their radar uses he said the center freq was 5735 and that it had a very wide bandwidth of like 100 Mhz basically taking the whole ISM/UNII bands worth of spectrum in 5Ghz. So any way to the point... When the USAF shows up and says hey, I see you are using FCC approved equipment in accordance to the FCC spectrum rules the equipment was designed to operate in on freq 5765Mhz - but I need you to turn it off to see if its your equipment we are seeing - and if it is please change freq preferably below 5600 MHz or above 5850 MHz (actual quoted request). Obviously we can't accommodate their request for several reasons,most notably because the equipment nor the FCC allows it. I'm just curious if any of you have had anything like this happen and what your response was / would be. I try to be a nice neighbor and work with them any way possible but them trying to shut down the whole 5Ghz non-licensed upper band all our equipment uses (including every other cable and wireline providers wifi 5Ghz equipment in the county) to work their range RFI issues is a bit much and ultimately unattainable within the 3 days they have left prior to launch, IMO. Any insight or suggestions you smart fellers have would be appreciated. I am particularly interested in those more intimate with FCC rules regarding this situation. Do I have to comply? Do they have legal justification to just say - turn it off... etc Thanks... I appreciate your time in responding. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Giant Florida Swamp Woodpecker Damage
The giant FL Swamp Woodpecker, know locally as a Swamp-pecker, got a hold of this power bridge http://cdn.141networks.com/images/PBM5-Blown-Up.jpg Now normally that would bother me, but since the UBNT radios don't handle MPLS packets normally I would have had to replace this any way with another vendor radio that doesn't try to QOS everything without permission. For more info: http://community.ubnt.com/t5/airMax-General-Discussion/Airmax-QOS-Deprioritz ing-traffic-when-using-MPLS-VPLS/m-p/708575#M38896 Seriously, UBNT needs to address / acknowledge / fix this. And that was a lightning bolt yesterday took out the radio. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Number's that can't port to VOIP
All numbers can be ported, IMO. If you would like me to pull them for you hit me offlist. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 7:50 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Number's that can't port to VOIP We've found that we can't get anything ported here in Alaska... something to do with agreements that Alaska Communications Systems and GCI did. 907-226 907-299 907-399Josh Reynolds Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 03/27/2014 03:04 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote: On 3/27/2014 5:57 PM, Darin Steffl wrote: We've got a local Telco and Frontier prefixed that we can't port to ANY voip provider, only to cellular providers. No one has been able to find a way to port these prefixes or some other ones I didn't list here. 507-634 507-635 507-365 Ah, the world-famous Kasson and Mantorville Telephone Company! :-) Those tiny ones can be tough. They are in LATA 620 but subtend the Plymouth tandem, which is in Minneapolis LATA 628. Odd, but there are a number of those exchanges in the Rochester LATA. That tandem belongs to Minnesota Equal Access, a sort of CLEC that runs a tandem on behalf of many small ILECs. Maybe they could help you. Their prefix codes are local but a CLEC generally needs an interconnection agreement with them, and I doubt many have them. Just not worth the bother. But I do see Mantorville numbers belonging to Sprint-CLEC, MCC, and bandwidth.com. So they may have arrangements. 507-528 507-527 Those are Frontier Citizens, the old (not ex-GTE) rural ILEC. Portable but not pooled. Both remotes of the Kenyon switch, on CLQwest's Owatonna tandem. Jaguar Communications is the only CLEC with Claremont numbers; Sprint and MCC have West Concord numbers. On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote: On 3/27/2014 3:11 PM, Chris Fabien wrote: This is the adjacent rate center to one of our main service areas, it is a local call. Different telco though. As a general rule, any rate center's numbers can be made portable if they aren't already so. It can worst case take six moths to implement. But that was usually done long ago. However, in order to port a number into a rate center, the carrier (CLEC) needs connectivity to the tandem switch that serves that rate center, which may belong to the ILEC in that rate center, or a third ILEC, not the one in the bigger exchange next door. If you tell me the rate centers in question I may be able to determine that for you. CenturyTel[/link] is notorious for being uncooperative, hoping state regulators let them bend the rules their way. And some rural ILECs think they're exempt from interconnection rules, though they're not. So it would not be surprising if the underlying CLECs just don't touch those RCs. On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:Typically, you can check to the local calling guide and if the rate center with the numbers is local to a rate center your providers are in, you should be good to go. YMMV. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:01:38 PM Subject: [WISPA] Number's that can't port to VOIPWe have a customer on fringe of a rural Century Tel area and both of our voip providers came back saying they were unable to port the number for us. Are there remote areas where you still can't port a number? Is there a way to find out if anyone can port this number? Like a master list or database I can search? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Fred R. Goldstein k1io fred at interisle.net Interisle Consulting Group +1 617 795 2701 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi Like us on Facebook ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Fred R. Goldstein k1io fred at interisle.net Interisle Consulting Group +1 617 795 2701 ___ Wireless mailing
Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios
Yep, we use ligowave gear. I can usually count on it providing 50-100mb with 20mb channel if not a lot of interference. for 200fdx you have one real option. buy yourself a SAF licensed link 11Ghz 2ft dishes high powered. You can get a license as quick as you can buy and setup the gear. If you think otherwise you should call me I can help you with getting the gear and the license. Only way to fly and for less than 10K you have all of it bought, delivered, licensed and installed in about 2-3 weeks. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 11:38 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Anyone with first-hand experience in this type of setup ? http://www.ligowave.com/ligoptp-5-23-unity Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net From: Ian Framson i...@tradeshowinternet.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2014 8:10:07 PM Subject: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Hi Wisps, We are looking for a pair of radios that can do 200 Mbps FDX over 11 miles (real world, not manufacturer's theoretical marketing promises). We are looking at using an unlicensed link (most likely 5 GHz) due to the time constraints, although we're open to suggestions. The make/model we were considering was Motorola PTP650 with 450 Mbps upgrade license. We are not wed to Motorola, however. The cost seems to be the limiting factor at this point. Another WISP I spoke with mentioned Bridgewave TD60 might be 1 possibility. Your thoughts? Ian Framson Co-founder www.tradeshowinternet.com i...@tradeshowinternet.com (866) 385-1504 x701 (818) 590-7475 mobile (415) 704-3153 fax Connect With Us ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Who has service in MESA AZ
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[WISPA] Who has service in Windsor Locks, CT
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[WISPA] Who has service in Louisville, KY
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Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators
Remember, I can buy 4 7Kw gensets instead of the one tiny TEG :) Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@irongoat.net Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 12:15 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators Who was this from? Remember there is ZERO maintenance on a TEG. ryan On 11/25/13 9:04 PM, Mike Lyon wrote: So i heard back on pricing today for the 100 watt propane TEG. $7960 plus a $300 mount. It's a cool idea but a Generac 7kw propane genset for $1900 with free Amazon Prime shipping seems to be a better deal... -Mike ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators
Steve, can you send me a link to the generator you purchased please. Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Steve Utick sut...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:57 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators We bought in inexpensive electric start LP gas generator ($650) and used one of these: http://www.packetflux.com/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=9products_ id=55 We've got a 24v charger plugged into the generator and attached to the battery array. We've got the controller set to auto start the generator if the batteries dip to a set voltage, and run for a pre-set amount of time and then shut off. We are about $1,000 into the whole setup. (Doesn't include the battery charger, that was already at the site) On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com wrote: So i heard back on pricing today for the 100 watt propane TEG. $7960 plus a $300 mount. It's a cool idea but a Generac 7kw propane genset for $1900 with free Amazon Prime shipping seems to be a better deal... -Mike ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators
We use a lot more then 100w though typical tower has two licensed links, 6 sectors, a few other unlicensed backhauls and two 24 port hp switches with 2 SPFs each, a router, thermal fans on two separate boxes, 3 DLI remote rebooters etc How do you get away with 100w of power at a tower site? Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@irongoat.net Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 1:27 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators *Someone* lives in Florida and does not need a Snowcat or Snowmachine to get to his sites... Sometimes paying a little extra for always on and always working is a good thing. The maintenance on the TEG I have running is: light let run for 1-5 years clean jets relight repeat. No moving parts and always working is a bonus. :) ryan On 11/26/13 9:25 AM, Scott Carullo wrote: Remember, I can buy 4 7Kw gensets instead of the one tiny TEG :) Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@irongoat.net Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 12:15 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators Who was this from? Remember there is ZERO maintenance on a TEG. ryan On 11/25/13 9:04 PM, Mike Lyon wrote: So i heard back on pricing today for the 100 watt propane TEG. $7960 plus a $300 mount. It's a cool idea but a Generac 7kw propane genset for $1900 with free Amazon Prime shipping seems to be a better deal... -Mike ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators
For what it could cost for two or three of those for backup power to a site I can pay a guy on welfare to guard the site, remote reboot, and pedal the gen-bike when the lights go out for less per year :) Saves tax money too... Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Terry Hickey li...@khtech.ca Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 6:51 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators If I remember correctly the 5120 TEG is 120 W. We had 2 per tower site. From: Scott Carullo Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 4:36 PM To: D. Ryan Spott ; sc...@brevardwireless.com ; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators We use a lot more then 100w though typical tower has two licensed links, 6 sectors, a few other unlicensed backhauls and two 24 port hp switches with 2 SPFs each, a router, thermal fans on two separate boxes, 3 DLI remote rebooters etc How do you get away with 100w of power at a tower site? Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@irongoat.net Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 1:27 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators *Someone* lives in Florida and does not need a Snowcat or Snowmachine to get to his sites... Sometimes paying a little extra for always on and always working is a good thing. The maintenance on the TEG I have running is: light let run for 1-5 years clean jets relight repeat. No moving parts and always working is a bonus. :) ryan On 11/26/13 9:25 AM, Scott Carullo wrote: Remember, Ican buy 4 7Kw gensets instead of the one tiny TEG :) Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: D. Ryan Spott mailto:rsp...@irongoat.net Sent:Tuesday, November 26, 2013 12:15 AM To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject:Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators Who was thisfrom? Remember there is ZERO maintenance on aTEG. ryan On 11/25/13 9:04 PM, Mike Lyon wrote: So iheard back on pricing today for the 100 watt propane TEG. $7960 plus a$300 mount. It's a cool idea but a Generac 7kw propanegenset for $1900 with free Amazon Prime shipping seems to be a betterdeal... -Mike ___ Wireless mailinglist Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wirelessmailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] LP / Propane generators
Report back what you find If we all call they might increase the price due to popular demand :) Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 7:46 PM To: Terry Hickey li...@khtech.ca, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] LP / Propane generators That looks pretty cool. I dug into it a little deeper to see where they are getting the TEGs from: http://www.globalte.com/products/GlobalTEGs/ I am wondering if one of these TEGs would be cheaper than getting a propane generator at ~$1900 I am going to request a quote... -Mike On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Terry Hickey li...@khtech.ca wrote: Check this out http://www.neverfailsolar.com/From: Jerry Richardson (airCloud) Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 11:24 AM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com ; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] LP / Propane generators Check it out http://www.norwall.com/products/Generac-7kW-Air-Cooled-Standby-CorePower-Sys tem-Package.html?gdftrk=gdfV23267_a_7c1096_a_7c3327_a_7c5837gclid=CK7y7ceB- boCFWxo7Aodg1AAaQ On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: Oops, you needan ATS Generac and others makes one about $2500 total we have not found anything smaller that is a complete automatic unit. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, November20, 2013 5:00 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] LP /Propane generators While on my constant quest of trying to figure out my wonderfulpower situation, it made me think to look up LP/Propane generators.I found a pretty cool little RV one made by Cummins: http://goo.gl/ZSrscl Get one of these, drop it into a JOBOX or the alike, and problemsolved! Off to go find the price for it... -Mike -- Mike Lyon 408-621-4826mike.l...@gmail.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon ___ Wirelessmailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Mike Lyon408-621-4826 mike.l...@gmail.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] LP / Propane generators
Oops, you need an ATS Generac and others makes one about $2500 total we have not found anything smaller that is a complete automatic unit. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 5:00 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] LP / Propane generators While on my constant quest of trying to figure out my wonderful power situation, it made me think to look up LP/Propane generators. I found a pretty cool little RV one made by Cummins: http://goo.gl/ZSrscl Get one of these, drop it into a JOBOX or the alike, and problem solved! Off to go find the price for it... -Mike -- Mike Lyon408-621-4826 mike.l...@gmail.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Wireless Orbit closing. Interested in new portal provider
You really should do this yourself, especially if you can program a website Why pay someone else every day as your users sign up? Use mikrotik hotspot, clear box radius and a sql server. Then you write the code... its a little bit of work but then you control it completely and can attach to any merchant account / bank you choose. Or you could pay someone to set up your own then you still own and maintain it... Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 12:27 PM To: j...@mvn.net, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Orbit closing. Interested in new portal provider I have the contact info for the Owner/CoFounder of Wireless Orbit. I have been with them since they started in Palo Alto. I visited them there. Last week he did offer to sell me the Intellectual Property as well as to set up the system in my data center. There's at least one member (besides us) who is talking to them about acquiring the business. We are also looking at WiFiRush (formerly WiFiCPA). We can buy the VM version to run the system for $1000.00. Looks like it does a little more than Wireless Orbit. Ralph From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 2:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Orbit closing. Interested in new portal provider Perhaps you could contact them to see about acquiring their business? Do you have contact information for them? John Scrivner On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 3:36 PM, ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org wrote: We've been using Wireless Orbit for our captive portal AAA and payments for years. Now they drop the bombshell that they will be closing in 2 weeks. Who is using something they can recommend? Requirements: Work with Mikrotik hotspot. Handles multiple locations, all different with different rules, settings, login pages, etc. Handles various payment plans and time limits. Supports Authorize.net Preferably has a flat cost, not a percentage like many of them do. Nice to haves: Can support auto login by MAC Allows users to associate browserless devices with their account. Aggregates simultaneous usage against the maximum set bandwidth (ie. If limit is 6 Mbps down and they have 4 devices running, each device can't use all 6 Mbps simultaneously.) MT User Manager is not an option- doesn't do multiple portals Not sure if the one Butch Evans sells will do it, I think the portals take custom code by the author to implement/change, but I am open to looking. Thanks Ralph ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
I'm not talking about the ones in peoples homes, I'm talking about the ones the cable carrier hangs on the lines outside runing through the city on every corner clear LOS to every tower around. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 8:24 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. One good thing about the higher bands and the noise floor is that free space loss works to your advantage. That being that a 5 GHz indoor Omni home AP router signal will fall off as an interference source as a much shorter distance than a 2.4 GHz device will. The laws of physics work in your favor. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:52 PM To: Matt Hoppes; sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. Hard to tell, noise floor is noise floor which keeps creeping up - we all know things work better when its quiet. This used to worry me a lot when I saw it coming, but then I realized it was already there and I had no idea until I just happened to scan on some radios (I don't usually install the stuff). I'm not worried any more, if its not one thing it will be another any way. Thats what gives us the edge every day, flexibility. We will work around it, we always do. I figure a high gain antenna on a tower with a good directional CPE will continue to work fine. Their omni low gain antenna can't compete with a 20-30db directional one. Still sucks though, you drive down the street and see one after another running 5Ghz just knowing there probably isn't 3 connections in the whole city to them Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:43 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. Are you seeing any impact from them? On Nov 14, 2013, at 18:03, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: Yeah, won't matter either way with a 5Ghz AP on every street corner. Already seeing that in our areas do a wireless scan and you see 354 5Ghz APs now in addition to the 2Ghz ones (they run dual band APs now). Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:49 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. What could go wrong with Comcast taking up yet more 5GHz of spectrum...[/sarcasm off] On 11/14/2013 01:40 PM, ralph wrote: I hope the links at the bottom come through. --- Comcast needs the FCC to open up the 5 GHz spectrum band to power next-generation Wi-Fi services that could allow it to deliver wireless broadband at speeds of up to 1 Gbps, SVP of Business Development Tom Nagel testified at a House Energy and Commerce hearing on Wednesday. Nagel disclosed in his prepared testimony that Comcast has expanded the number of Wi-Fi access points for Xfinity high-speed Internet customers to 350,000. The nation's largest cable MSO also began deploying wireless gateways from Cisco earlier this year that Comcast has said may be able to power millions of neighborhood hotspots. While Comcast already is already using the 5 GHz band, Nagel said it needs more of the unlicensed spectrum to meet demand from subscribers for Wi-Fi. It faces potential opposition from Toyota and other automobile manufacturers who want to use the 5 GHz band to deliver next-generation connected car applications, including applications that would warn drivers of collision threats. Toyota principal researcher John Kenney raised concerns about possible interference from Wi-Fi services at Wednesday's hearing. We have been actively engaged with the Wi-Fi community and other stakeholders who are exploring possible sharing solutions that will alleviate any risk of harmful interference from unlicensed devices. But we're not there yet and it's going to take a bit more time to see if we can get there, Kenney said in his prepared testimony. For more: - see Nagel's prepared testimony (.pdf) - see Kenney's prepared testimony (.pdf) - see Comcast blog post - Broadcasting Cable has this story ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
I'm curious... is there any legal protection on open WiFi for SSID names? Every ATT device there is tries to connect to ATT WiFi (or whatever SSID they use) and you could setup your device with same SSID as someone else and cause issues. I'm just curious from a legal standpoint since its unlicensed no rules on SSID names what are the consequences Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 11:45 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. This is true... it also doesn't mean that COMPANY B can't deploy APs with COMPANY A's SSID and then charge or something wait... I didn't say that. On 11/15/13, 11:40 AM, Zach Mann wrote: Oh btw, even tho COMPANY A deploys these AP's and broadcasts their own SSID, doesn't mean the other players in town can't pay COMPANY A for their own SSID for their subscribers. :) It will be interesting to see how this all develops. On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote: Right... I as well.. that's why I don't know what the answer is. Everyone's in this game, but some just play (seemingly) unfair... for example, it doesn't help anyone when you just go throwing up APs on cable plants and blasting all over the town. On the other hand Comcast may say it doesn't make sence for you (the WISP) to go sticking these high gain antennas up on the tower and covering the town! Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo Wireless +1 (570) 723-7312 tel:%2B1%20%28570%29%20723-7312 On 11/15/13, 11:19 AM, Eric Flanery wrote: How would you 'legally' define a WISP? What would make Comcast 'not a WISP', if they are delivering Internet over Wireless? If it's that they also deliver Internet over another medium, would we (and many other providers) also be excluded because we also deliver Internet over cable and fiber? If it's that they also provide TV service, then what about those of us that also run transport, hosting, development, and infrastructure services (examples among doubtless myriad others). Not that I wouldn't love some protected spectrum, I'm just having a hard time imagining anything that would prevent Comcast and the like from using it, while not also excluding quite a few of us. --Eric -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 8:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. Yes and no... I mean... yeah it's a pain to those of us trying to use the spectrum... but then again so is Comcast. This is exactly why there needs to be some sort of WISP only spectrum... with laws carefully written so Comcast can't just say they are a WISP. Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo Wireless +1 (570) 723-7312 tel:%2B1%20%28570%29%20723-7312 On 11/15/13, 11:02 AM, Robert wrote: Spectrum trashers At least if there's no traffic on them there shouldn't be much noise.. On 11/15/2013 06:26 AM, Zach Mann wrote: He's talking about these... (see attached) On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: I'm not talking about the ones in peoples homes, I'm talking about the ones the cable carrier hangs on the lines outside runing through the city on every corner clear LOS to every tower around. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 *From*: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com mailto:bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com mailto:bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com mailto:bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com *Sent*: Friday, November 15, 2013 8:24 AM *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. One good thing about the higher bands and the noise floor
Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
Attach all the customers within blocks using their security services that don't have cable pulled. Or similar. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 11:48 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. We can only hope for A/C 80MHz channels to spread the signal way out but also pollute more. The ridiculous thing is 5GHz doesn't go through buildings... what is Comcast attempting to do here? Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo Wireless +1 (570) 723-7312 On 11/15/13, 11:46 AM, Jerry Richardson (airCloud) wrote: Having had the privilege of living through PGE's rollout of 900MHz smart meters we will be impacted, it's just hard to say how much. The PGE smart meters were essentially unity gain at full power. When it got into the 10's of thousands the AP saw -60dB across the board at 10 miles from the nearest smart meter. With 5GHz, we have a much higher FSL and there will not be nearly as many withing a given sector. Making a few assumptions here: Pole AP is 27dB into a 6dB omni at 30' off the ground WISP sector antenna is 17dB at 200' off the ground At 1 mile the WISP AP is going to see ~60dB. If comcast does succeed in getting more 5GHz spectrum, it will be good for us as well as it will spread the noise out a bit lowering overall noise. Better come up with a plan now as we will be affected. Comcast, like PGE is going to tell you they are in compliance and to call their lawyers On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote: Right... I as well.. that's why I don't know what the answer is. Everyone's in this game, but some just play (seemingly) unfair... for example, it doesn't help anyone when you just go throwing up APs on cable plants and blasting all over the town. On the other hand Comcast may say it doesn't make sence for you (the WISP) to go sticking these high gain antennas up on the tower and covering the town! Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo Wireless +1 (570) 723-7312 tel:%2B1%20%28570%29%20723-7312 On 11/15/13, 11:19 AM, Eric Flanery wrote: How would you 'legally' define a WISP? What would make Comcast 'not a WISP', if they are delivering Internet over Wireless? If it's that they also deliver Internet over another medium, would we (and many other providers) also be excluded because we also deliver Internet over cable and fiber? If it's that they also provide TV service, then what about those of us that also run transport, hosting, development, and infrastructure services (examples among doubtless myriad others). Not that I wouldn't love some protected spectrum, I'm just having a hard time imagining anything that would prevent Comcast and the like from using it, while not also excluding quite a few of us. --Eric -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 8:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. Yes and no... I mean... yeah it's a pain to those of us trying to use the spectrum... but then again so is Comcast. This is exactly why there needs to be some sort of WISP only spectrum... with laws carefully written so Comcast can't just say they are a WISP. Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo Wireless +1 (570) 723-7312 tel:%2B1%20%28570%29%20723-7312 On 11/15/13, 11:02 AM, Robert wrote: Spectrum trashers At least if there's no traffic on them there shouldn't be much noise.. On 11/15/2013 06:26 AM, Zach Mann wrote: He's talking about these... (see attached) On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: I'm not talking about the ones in peoples homes, I'm talking about the ones the cable carrier hangs on the lines outside runing through the city on every corner clear LOS to every tower around. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 *From*: Brian
Re: [WISPA] Dielectric Grease
I have both (evidence). Yes it helps protect from corrosion but it also can cause the sensitive ethernet to have issues depending on the quality and consistency of grease used. The little wires just use spring like pressure to connect, I've seen some thicker grease prevent good connection. I chose not to use it except for coax connectors or telephone lines - no ethernet. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 1:50 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dielectric Grease Some people are. Majority are not. No ones seems to have any evidence suggesting it helps but there hasn't been anything to show it hurts. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 1:48 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: Anybody using dielectric grease on RJ45 connectors? Thanx NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it'sin English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless attachment: flag.gif ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
They gave it a though... thats why they are full power ;) Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Zach Mann zma...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 11:19 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. Coming from the WISP side, I asked them why they have these blasting at full power, 24/7 when the zone director surely could manage power levels when needed. I didn't get a answer. I don't think they even gave it a thought about who they might interfere with. On Friday, November 15, 2013, Robert wrote: Spectrum trashers At least if there's no traffic on them there shouldn't be much noise.. On 11/15/2013 06:26 AM, Zach Mann wrote: He's talking about these... (see attached) On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: I'm not talking about the ones in peoples homes, I'm talking about the ones the cable carrier hangs on the lines outside runing through the city on every corner clear LOS to every tower around. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 *From*: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com mailto:bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com *Sent*: Friday, November 15, 2013 8:24 AM *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. One good thing about the higher bands and the noise floor is that free space loss works to your advantage. That being that a 5 GHz indoor Omni home AP router signal will fall off as an interference source as a much shorter distance than a 2.4 GHz device will. The laws of physics work in your favor. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com http://www.Broadband-Mapping.com *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott Carullo *Sent:* Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:52 PM *To:* Matt Hoppes; sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. Hard to tell, noise floor is noise floor which keeps creeping up - we all know things work better when its quiet. This used to worry me a lot when I saw it coming, but then I realized it was already there and I had no idea until I just happened to scan on some radios (I don't usually install the stuff). I'm not worried any more, if its not one thing it will be another any way. Thats what gives us the edge every day, flexibility. We will work around it, we always do. I figure a high gain antenna on a tower with a good directional CPE will continue to work fine. Their omni low gain antenna can't compete with a 20-30db directional one. Still sucks though, you drive down the street and see one after another running 5Ghz just knowing there probably isn't 3 connections in the whole city to them Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 *From*: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com *Sent*: Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:43 PM *To*: sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Cc*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. Are you seeing any impact from them? On Nov 14, 2013, at 18:03, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: Yeah, won't matter either way with a 5Ghz AP on every street corner. Already seeing that in our areas do a wireless scan and you see 354 5Ghz APs now in addition to the 2Ghz ones (they run dual band APs now). Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 *From*: Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com mailto:bcl...@spectraaccess.com *Sent*: Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:49 PM *To*: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. What could go wrong with Comcast taking up yet more 5GHz
Re: [WISPA] Dielectric Grease
What brand do you use and where do you source it? Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 6:13 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dielectric Grease We have been and it has eliminated ethernet issues due to bad cable or bad weatherproofing. I've seen where the cable jacket is messed up, water in the ethernet connector area, but because the grease was used it prevented the ethernet from failing. We've also seen issues where the LMR cabling fails or weather proofing fails and because of the grease, the same thing applies. We put it on every RJ45 and every RF connector for installs and tower work. Remember though, a little dab will do ya, no need to put a lot on it, otherwise it makes it a mess. There's a reason that all the big telco companies have been using it on phone lines for years.Regards, Chuck On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 1:48 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: Anybody using dielectric grease on RJ45 connectors? Thanx NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it'sin English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless attachment: flag.gif ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
Yeah, won't matter either way with a 5Ghz AP on every street corner. Already seeing that in our areas do a wireless scan and you see 354 5Ghz APs now in addition to the 2Ghz ones (they run dual band APs now). Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:49 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. What could go wrong with Comcast taking up yet more 5GHz of spectrum...[/sarcasm off] On 11/14/2013 01:40 PM, ralph wrote: I hope the links at the bottom come through. --- Comcast needs the FCC to open up the 5 GHz spectrum band to power next-generation Wi-Fi services that could allow it to deliver wireless broadband at speeds of up to 1 Gbps, SVP of Business Development Tom Nagel testified at a House Energy and Commerce hearing on Wednesday. Nagel disclosed in his prepared testimony that Comcast has expanded the number of Wi-Fi access points for Xfinity high-speed Internet customers to 350,000. The nation's largest cable MSO also began deploying wireless gateways from Cisco earlier this year that Comcast has said may be able to power millions of neighborhood hotspots. While Comcast already is already using the 5 GHz band, Nagel said it needs more of the unlicensed spectrum to meet demand from subscribers for Wi-Fi. It faces potential opposition from Toyota and other automobile manufacturers who want to use the 5 GHz band to deliver next-generation connected car applications, including applications that would warn drivers of collision threats. Toyota principal researcher John Kenney raised concerns about possible interference from Wi-Fi services at Wednesday's hearing. We have been actively engaged with the Wi-Fi community and other stakeholders who are exploring possible sharing solutions that will alleviate any risk of harmful interference from unlicensed devices. But we're not there yet and it's going to take a bit more time to see if we can get there, Kenney said in his prepared testimony. For more: - see Nagel's prepared testimony (.pdf) - see Kenney's prepared testimony (.pdf) - see Comcast blog post - Broadcasting Cable has this story ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
Hard to tell, noise floor is noise floor which keeps creeping up - we all know things work better when its quiet. This used to worry me a lot when I saw it coming, but then I realized it was already there and I had no idea until I just happened to scan on some radios (I don't usually install the stuff). I'm not worried any more, if its not one thing it will be another any way. Thats what gives us the edge every day, flexibility. We will work around it, we always do. I figure a high gain antenna on a tower with a good directional CPE will continue to work fine. Their omni low gain antenna can't compete with a 20-30db directional one. Still sucks though, you drive down the street and see one after another running 5Ghz just knowing there probably isn't 3 connections in the whole city to them Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:43 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. Are you seeing any impact from them? On Nov 14, 2013, at 18:03, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: Yeah, won't matter either way with a 5Ghz AP on every street corner. Already seeing that in our areas do a wireless scan and you see 354 5Ghz APs now in addition to the 2Ghz ones (they run dual band APs now). Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:49 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. What could go wrong with Comcast taking up yet more 5GHz of spectrum...[/sarcasm off] On 11/14/2013 01:40 PM, ralph wrote: I hope the links at the bottom come through. --- Comcast needs the FCC to open up the 5 GHz spectrum band to power next-generation Wi-Fi services that could allow it to deliver wireless broadband at speeds of up to 1 Gbps, SVP of Business Development Tom Nagel testified at a House Energy and Commerce hearing on Wednesday. Nagel disclosed in his prepared testimony that Comcast has expanded the number of Wi-Fi access points for Xfinity high-speed Internet customers to 350,000. The nation's largest cable MSO also began deploying wireless gateways from Cisco earlier this year that Comcast has said may be able to power millions of neighborhood hotspots. While Comcast already is already using the 5 GHz band, Nagel said it needs more of the unlicensed spectrum to meet demand from subscribers for Wi-Fi. It faces potential opposition from Toyota and other automobile manufacturers who want to use the 5 GHz band to deliver next-generation connected car applications, including applications that would warn drivers of collision threats. Toyota principal researcher John Kenney raised concerns about possible interference from Wi-Fi services at Wednesday's hearing. We have been actively engaged with the Wi-Fi community and other stakeholders who are exploring possible sharing solutions that will alleviate any risk of harmful interference from unlicensed devices. But we're not there yet and it's going to take a bit more time to see if we can get there, Kenney said in his prepared testimony. For more: - see Nagel's prepared testimony (.pdf) - see Kenney's prepared testimony (.pdf) - see Comcast blog post - Broadcasting Cable has this story ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
You can always go to the Japanese channels, they always seem to be nice and quiet ;) We have lots of Asian customers so we are allowed to use them in some areas... Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:59 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. Yeah... this is why I always preach 20dB above the noise floor... signals in the 45 to 55 range. If you install in the 70s you have no where to go. Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo Wireless +1 (570) 723-7312 On 11/14/13, 6:52 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: Hard to tell, noise floor is noise floor which keeps creeping up - we all know things work better when its quiet. This used to worry me a lot when I saw it coming, but then I realized it was already there and I had no idea until I just happened to scan on some radios (I don't usually install the stuff). I'm not worried any more, if its not one thing it will be another any way. Thats what gives us the edge every day, flexibility. We will work around it, we always do. I figure a high gain antenna on a tower with a good directional CPE will continue to work fine. Their omni low gain antenna can't compete with a 20-30db directional one. Still sucks though, you drive down the street and see one after another running 5Ghz just knowing there probably isn't 3 connections in the whole city to them Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 *From*: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com *Sent*: Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:43 PM *To*: sc...@brevardwireless.com sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Cc*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. Are you seeing any impact from them? On Nov 14, 2013, at 18:03, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: Yeah, won't matter either way with a 5Ghz AP on every street corner. Already seeing that in our areas do a wireless scan and you see 354 5Ghz APs now in addition to the 2Ghz ones (they run dual band APs now). Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 *From*: Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com mailto:bcl...@spectraaccess.com *Sent*: Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:49 PM *To*: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. What could go wrong with Comcast taking up yet more 5GHz of spectrum...[/sarcasm off] On 11/14/2013 01:40 PM, ralph wrote: I hope the links at the bottom come through. --- Comcast needs the FCC to open up the 5 GHz spectrum band to power next-generation Wi-Fi services that could allow it to deliver wireless broadband at speeds of up to 1 Gbps, SVP of Business Development Tom Nagel testified at a House Energy and Commerce hearing on Wednesday. Nagel disclosed in his prepared testimony that Comcast has expanded the number of Wi-Fi access points for Xfinity high-speed Internet customers to 350,000. The nation's largest cable MSO also began deploying wireless gateways from Cisco earlier this year that Comcast has said may be able to power millions of neighborhood hotspots. While Comcast already is already using the 5 GHz band, Nagel said it needs more of the unlicensed spectrum to meet demand from subscribers for Wi-Fi. It faces potential opposition from Toyota and other automobile manufacturers who want to use the 5 GHz band to deliver next-generation connected car applications, including applications that would warn drivers of collision threats. Toyota principal researcher John Kenney raised concerns about possible interference from Wi-Fi services at Wednesday's hearing. We have been actively engaged with the Wi-Fi community and other stakeholders who are exploring possible sharing solutions that will alleviate any risk of harmful interference from unlicensed devices. But we're not there yet and it's going to take a bit more time to see if we can get there, Kenney said in his prepared testimony. For more: - see Nagel's prepared testimony http://links.mkt1985.com/ctt?kn=207ms=NzE0MjgxOQS2r=NDc2MTk4ODcyMzcS1b=0 j=MTc5NzA2OTg3S0mt=2rj=MTc5NzA2OTg3S0rt=0 (.pdf) - see Kenney's prepared testimony http://links.mkt1985.com/ctt?kn=187ms=NzE0MjgxOQS2r=NDc2MTk4ODcyMzcS1b=0 j=MTc5NzA2OTg3S0mt=2rj=MTc5NzA2OTg3S0rt=0 (.pdf) - see Comcast blog post http://links.mkt1985.com/ctt?kn=118ms=NzE0MjgxOQS2r=NDc2MTk4ODcyMzcS1b=0 j=MTc5NzA2OTg3S0mt=2rj=MTc5NzA2OTg3S0rt=0 - /Broadcasting Cable/ has this story
Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
Sure, why else would there be African bands... Of course its for the African customers. Silly question. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Robert nos...@avantwireless.com Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 7:24 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. So does that mean I can use the African bands for my S. African customers and etc...? On 11/14/2013 04:12 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: You can always go to the Japanese channels, they always seem to be nice and quiet ;) We have lots of Asian customers so we are allowed to use them in some areas... Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 *From*: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com *Sent*: Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:59 PM *To*: sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. Yeah... this is why I always preach 20dB above the noise floor... signals in the 45 to 55 range. If you install in the 70s you have no where to go. Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo Wireless +1 (570) 723-7312 On 11/14/13, 6:52 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: Hard to tell, noise floor is noise floor which keeps creeping up - we all know things work better when its quiet. This used to worry me a lot when I saw it coming, but then I realized it was already there and I had no idea until I just happened to scan on some radios (I don't usually install the stuff). I'm not worried any more, if its not one thing it will be another any way. Thats what gives us the edge every day, flexibility. We will work around it, we always do. I figure a high gain antenna on a tower with a good directional CPE will continue to work fine. Their omni low gain antenna can't compete with a 20-30db directional one. Still sucks though, you drive down the street and see one after another running 5Ghz just knowing there probably isn't 3 connections in the whole city to them Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 *From*: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com *Sent*: Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:43 PM *To*: sc...@brevardwireless.com sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Cc*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. Are you seeing any impact from them? On Nov 14, 2013, at 18:03, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: Yeah, won't matter either way with a 5Ghz AP on every street corner. Already seeing that in our areas do a wireless scan and you see 354 5Ghz APs now in addition to the 2Ghz ones (they run dual band APs now). Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 *From*: Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com mailto:bcl...@spectraaccess.com *Sent*: Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:49 PM *To*: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. What could go wrong with Comcast taking up yet more 5GHz of spectrum...[/sarcasm off] On 11/14/2013 01:40 PM, ralph wrote: I hope the links at the bottom come through. --- Comcast needs the FCC to open up the 5 GHz spectrum band to power next-generation Wi-Fi services that could allow it to deliver wireless broadband at speeds of up to 1 Gbps, SVP of Business Development Tom Nagel testified at a House Energy and Commerce hearing on Wednesday. Nagel disclosed in his prepared testimony that Comcast has expanded the number of Wi-Fi access points for Xfinity high-speed Internet customers to 350,000. The nation's largest cable MSO also began deploying wireless gateways from Cisco earlier this year that Comcast has said may be able to power millions of neighborhood hotspots. While Comcast already is already using the 5 GHz band, Nagel said it needs more of the unlicensed spectrum to meet demand from subscribers for Wi-Fi. It faces potential opposition from Toyota and other automobile manufacturers who want to use the 5 GHz band to deliver next-generation connected car applications, including applications that would warn drivers of collision threats. Toyota principal researcher John Kenney raised concerns about possible interference from Wi-Fi services at Wednesday's hearing. We have been actively engaged with the Wi-Fi community and other stakeholders who are exploring possible sharing solutions that will alleviate any risk of harmful interference from unlicensed devices. But we're not there yet and it's going to take a bit
[WISPA] MPLS / Mikrotik Assistance Needed
Good morning. We are in need of anyone who has deployed MPLS across a WISP network of decent size to help us resolve a few issues we are having with our MPLS implementation. We have about 50 routers / towers involved, fairly meshed. I love and appreciate free advice that can help. I am willing to pay consultant(s) as well. My only problem to date - I can't seem to entice anyone into helping us - paid or otherwise. If you know how to implement MPLS on Mikrotik routers or know someone who does, please contact me, we would really appreciate some assistance. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] MPLS / Mikrotik Assistance Needed
Thanks Eric. Yes that thread and this email are related. Thanks for taking the time to email your thoughts, we will look into those specific issues. Do you see any issue running ROS 5.26 and 6.6 together with MPLS? We were going to use ROS 6.6 but had BGP issues when we upgraded to that so went back to 5.26 and BGP is happy now. Some hardware we have required v6 for the ethernet driver upgrade so the MTU could be set higher on some of our routers. Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Eric Flanery eflan...@fsr.com Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 11:41 AM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org, us...@wispa.org us...@wispa.org Cc: Carullo, Scott sc...@flhsi.com Subject: RE: [WISPA] MPLS / Mikrotik Assistance Needed Hi Scott, Assuming you are referring to this thread: http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=14t=78755 We have run into many issues with MPLS on x86 boxes, related to MTU, and found a few workarounds (none ideal). Placing a 'shim' VLAN, or two, between the physical ethernet interface and MPLS often seems to help. This does impact performance, but not as badly as running MPLS directly on the ethernet. This only ever seems to be necessary at the interfaces of x86 boxes, and whatever they attach to. Using only L2VPN/VPLS (no IP-over-MPLS or L3VPN), setting the MPLS MTU at 1492 or lower, and letting VPLS FAR handle fragmentation (it does a much better job than IP fragmentation, and is almost transparent to the end user). Again, this impacts performance, as it nearly doubles the number of frames that your transport links must carry. Move the MPLS boundary back, so that the x86 boxes are not participating. For us, this often required extra hardware. Also, make sure you are testing from and to boxes that are not participating in MPLS. I.e. test CE to CE, not PE to PE, or PE to CE; also, test UDP in addition to TCP. For some reason x86 boxes acting as PE routers often show far worse TCP performance than their actual forwarding performance. I've had some paths with x86 PEs that are easily able to move 300+Mbps CE to CE; but when testing between the PEs, the test maxes out at 5-6Mbps. Good luck. --Eric From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 7:45 AM To: wireless@wispa.org; us...@wispa.org Cc: Carullo, Scott Subject: [WISPA] MPLS / Mikrotik Assistance Needed Good morning. We are in need of anyone who has deployed MPLS across a WISP network of decent size to help us resolve a few issues we are having with our MPLS implementation. We have about 50 routers / towers involved, fairly meshed. I love and appreciate free advice that can help. I am willing to pay consultant(s) as well. My only problem to date - I can't seem to entice anyone into helping us - paid or otherwise. If you know how to implement MPLS on Mikrotik routers or know someone who does, please contact me, we would really appreciate some assistance. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Cambium ePMP1000 question about sync
I'm not familiar with cambiums new product or how their sync works so I have a question. If I purchase 4 APs with sectors that supports GPS sync... Do I have everything I need to utilize the sync feature between APs or is there additional hardware or accessories that I'd have to purchase to use the sync? What are the sync options? N S AP on freq 5780 and E W AP on 5830 for instance? Or will it support all APs even on one freq? Basic questions but I have not been able to find the answers on their online info. Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] I need a hotel WiFi support 24x7 company
Checking to see if you all can recommend a company to provide guests support services for a 250 room hotel that is a client of ours. Any recommendations? Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Can anyone refer an engineer to review / stamp 30ft rohn 25G tower
I have a tower that is 30ft - 3 sections of standard straight 10ft Rohn 25G There is a base plate pinned to cement sidewalk at bottom and attached to building with wall mount bracket 12 feet up with through-bolted galvanized steel 1/2 all thread to solid cement 8 thick I need documentation so I can get building permit Anyone who can tell me the easiest / quickest / cheapest way to accomplish this I would appreciate it. Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Any suggestions for a 6Ghz 3ft dish with N connector single pol
The way they assemble (takes over an hour - too many parts to crud up over time etc)The way the wave guide is held to the rear, worst design I've come across yetHow small the mounting bracket is compared to radio waves and othersand so on in general... Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 11:12 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Any suggestions for a 6Ghz 3ft dish with N connector single pol What don't you like about them? Im going to have to purchase a couple myself soon... -Mike Sent from my iPhone On Aug 12, 2013, at 19:56, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: I need to find something different than the Comscope (andrew) 3ft valueline dishes I have I'm not a fan of them Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Any suggestions for a 6Ghz 3ft dish with N connector single pol
I bought one beehive 11Ghz antenna set. I have them on my floor. I'll sell them really cheap - I'll never hang another set of those as long as I'm in business. Looks like they were a science fair project made in a garage. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 1:12 AM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Any suggestions for a 6Ghz 3ft dish with N connector single pol Check with wbmfg.com Sean On Monday, August 12, 2013, Scott Carullo wrote: I need to find something different than the Comscope (andrew) 3ft valueline dishes I have I'm not a fan of them Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Any suggestions for a 6Ghz 3ft dish with N connector single pol
Would probably work, and cost a thousand less, but it needs to be spec'd and licensable. Its crossed my mind more than once though. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 8:52 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Any suggestions for a 6Ghz 3ft dish with N connector single pol Use a 5 ghz? Lol!!! Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 8:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Any suggestions for a 6Ghz 3ft dish with N connector single pol No 3 foot in that band. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 13, 2013 1:12 AM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote: Check with wbmfg.com Sean On Monday, August 12, 2013, Scott Carullo wrote: I need to find something different than the Comscope (andrew) 3ft valueline dishes I have I'm not a fan of them Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Any suggestions for a 6Ghz 3ft dish with N connector single pol
I need to find something different than the Comscope (andrew) 3ft valueline dishes I have I'm not a fan of them Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 5ft mast
Piece of aluminum 5/16 thick maybe 12x12 inches or whatever suites you - I usually get them 8x12 so they fit on top of a wall nicely when needed. Drill 1/2 hole about an inch in from each corner. Weld an aluminum pipe to the middle about 2ft tall maybe 1 to 1-1/4 diameter. Drill small hole near base so water can get out. Take that and a tube of good silicone caulk and you can put a two foot pole that won't rust anywhere you want it (shingle, metal roof, soffit, wood panel, fiberglass, cement, stucco etc etc...) It wont come off, you don't have to drill any holes and you can explain that the roof under it is more waterproof and stronger than it was before you put it there. I should sell em and call then plop-a-pole's Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Joshua Zukerman haw...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 1:58 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 5ft mast Hello list, I am setting up a PtP link between two gas stations for a client. I am going to be using two Nanostation M5 units going about 1/2mi diagonally across a highway. I'd like to mount them to a 5ft mast then to a non-penetrating roof mount, as the only place with clear line-of-sight is on the roof of both gas stations. Flat roof without much of a lip to mount an antenna to. All of my Google searches come up with much larger non-penetrating roof mounts, 3' or wider, which are designed for much larger and taller masts. Also very pricey, $150 or more each. Does anyone make a small non-penetrating roof mount, say 2ft square out of metal with an attachment to hold a 5ft mast or including a 5ft mast? Maybe a single cinder/cement block to weigh it down would be all that is needed. Won't ever need to go higher. Or do you have another suggestion for mounting? Thanks in advance, Josh ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Wireless Digest, Vol 18, Issue 36
arcflex 6 I think has two shields, you'd have to verify - and its cat6 outdoor cable I recently bought one box of every kind of cable I could to look at the difference... now I can't remember them all doh! Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Andris Bjornson and...@inveneo.org Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 2:57 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Digest, Vol 18, Issue 36 On a related question: Does anyone know of a comparable product to Ubiquiti ToughCable Carrier? I have seen cases in which the double shielding has really made a difference for me: sites with lots of RF energy (TV, FM, etc) causing problems with the ethernet links with single shielded cable...problems went to 0 with the double shielded. I'm in the same boat as everyone else on the ToughCableI got bitten with lots of unexpected truck rolls and costs to deal with the non UV-stable cable, and don't feel great about continuing to use ToughCable. I haven't seen a comparable double shielded cable though. Thoughts? Thanks! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Maxxwave router MTU problem / question
That is the chipset actually... so whats that mean exactly. You said no support in 5.x That doesn't mean I'm going to have to suffer with 6.1 does it I guess at least there is hope in future without swapping out a bunch of hardware once 6x is working good.. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 6:55 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Maxxwave router MTU problem / question Check the ethernet chipset, Make sure it isn't the Intel 82583V chipset. This won't support jumbo frames in v5.X. On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net wrote: HI Scott, I bet you if you dropped a quick email with this question to Brian at Baltic networks you will get your answer. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 4:07:08 PM Subject: [WISPA] Maxxwave router MTU problem / question I know these are fairly popular routers so I was wondering if anyone has seen this issue before Mikrotik v5.24 or 5.25 - go to ethernet interface and open an interface, I can't increase the MTU size greater then the default 1500. Some of the Maxxwave routers I can. No rhyme or reason between them I can tell - some just allow the MTU change some don't. Not sure if this is MT fubar or some other issue with the device. Anyone? Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Maxxwave router MTU problem / question
It is in 6 but I'm not planning on rolling out 6 yet because my small testing has concluded there are issues with 6 and I'm not ready to bleed on this right now. 5.25 works just fine for me I'll buy more routers to replace existing tower ones and when 6 is stable the others can be used again Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:30 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Maxxwave router MTU problem / question Jumbo frames are supported on that chipset in the latest Intel driver updates so it is definitely possible to get it working. I don't know about what is bundled into each Mikrotik update but I would imagine you will not have to swap out any hardware, just wait for them to bundle a newer Intel driver. Maybe it is in 6.x already. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 7:42 PM To: can...@believewireless.net; WISPA General List; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Maxxwave router MTU problem / question That is the chipset actually... so whats that mean exactly. You said no support in 5.x That doesn't mean I'm going to have to suffer with 6.1 does it I guess at least there is hope in future without swapping out a bunch of hardware once 6x is working good.. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 6:55 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Maxxwave router MTU problem / question Check the ethernet chipset, Make sure it isn't the Intel 82583V chipset. This won't support jumbo frames in v5.X. On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net wrote: HI Scott, I bet you if you dropped a quick email with this question to Brian at Baltic networks you will get your answer. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 4:07:08 PM Subject: [WISPA] Maxxwave router MTU problem / question I know these are fairly popular routers so I was wondering if anyone has seen this issue before Mikrotik v5.24 or 5.25 - go to ethernet interface and open an interface, I can't increase the MTU size greater then the default 1500. Some of the Maxxwave routers I can. No rhyme or reason between them I can tell - some just allow the MTU change some don't. Not sure if this is MT fubar or some other issue with the device. Anyone? Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Mikrotik MPLS voodoo
I have rolled out MPLS on about 4 hops on my network with anticipation of expanding that to all towers once the concept proves itself in this small section on the network. I'm having issue getting traffic to pass through VPLS tunnel in real life. In the lab it works, when we played with it in the past it works. I think we are overlooking something - hard to say because we do not have much real world experience dealing with MPLS anomalies. If anyone has rolled out MPLS on top of an OSPF routed network of reasonable size I'd love to pick your brain on a few things... let me know, you can hit me back on list or off. Appreciate it. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Maxxwave router MTU problem / question
I know these are fairly popular routers so I was wondering if anyone has seen this issue before Mikrotik v5.24 or 5.25 - go to ethernet interface and open an interface, I can't increase the MTU size greater then the default 1500. Some of the Maxxwave routers I can. No rhyme or reason between them I can tell - some just allow the MTU change some don't. Not sure if this is MT fubar or some other issue with the device. Anyone? Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik MPLS voodoo
Scenario - connected in this order starting at remote site working towards HQ: (link type indented between routers) Customer Windows workstationSwitch of some sortCisco 28xx router with MTU set 1470 (or close to that I don't remember exactly)-ethernet cable 100Mb FDX hard setRB951-2n-UBNT link to shared APx86 MT router-SAF Lumina BHx86 MT router-UBNT AF BHx86 MT router-ethernet cable 100Mb FDX hard setCisco L3 routing switch (don't remember model)HQ Windows server A question about MTU...I have increased the MTU sizes on the equipment which allowed it. I believe the Cisco routers are set to 1470 MTU or something close because packets are all that size when received by us. Backhaul links should allow jumbo packets. Our MT routers have L2 MTU set high - this is actually what the MPLS/VPLS packets use right? I was under the impression that the ethernet interface MTU was just used for IP traffic which has fine connectivity. I can test at the moment had to revert back to eoip tunnel to get it working again. I would very much like to pay someone for their time assisting me setting this up though. Need MPLS on top of our OSPF across the board and we have three edge routers that BGP peer with three upstream providers in three different cities. The sooner I accomplish this the better and at this point I'm asking for help because I don't have the luxury of time. This would be way better for someone to just look at my screen logged into router and check settings themselves... Too many settings on too many devices to type :) Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 4:24 PM To: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com, wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik MPLS voodoo First stage would be to check the basics. Can both ends of the VPLS tunnel ping each other? Are all interfaces between end points exchanging LDP? Assuming this is all good I suspect an MTU issue so have you got any RB450G, RB493G, older routerboards, etc. in the path? - Reply message - From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik MPLS voodoo Date: Sat, Jul 13, 2013 21:03 I have rolled out MPLS on about 4 hops on my network with anticipation of expanding that to all towers once the concept proves itself in this small section on the network. I'm having issue getting traffic to pass through VPLS tunnel in real life. In the lab it works, when we played with it in the past it works. I think we are overlooking something - hard to say because we do not have much real world experience dealing with MPLS anomalies. If anyone has rolled out MPLS on top of an OSPF routed network of reasonable size I'd love to pick your brain on a few things... let me know, you can hit me back on list or off. Appreciate it. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik MPLS voodoo
I should have clarified - the Ciscos are not running mpls - those are the customer routers on each side of the metro ethernet circuit I am providing. I'm handing them a L2 tunnel - so the Cisco having a smaller MTU should help rather than cause a problem I think Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 5:44 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com, wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik MPLS voodoo Cisco MTU is too low Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Jul 13, 2013, at 5:19 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: Scenario - connected in this order starting at remote site working towards HQ: (link type indented between routers) Customer Windows workstation Switch of some sort Cisco 28xx router with MTU set 1470 (or close to that I don't remember exactly) -ethernet cable 100Mb FDX hard set RB951-2n -UBNT link to shared AP x86 MT router -SAF Lumina BH x86 MT router -UBNT AF BH x86 MT router -ethernet cable 100Mb FDX hard set Cisco L3 routing switch (don't remember model) HQ Windows server A question about MTU... I have increased the MTU sizes on the equipment which allowed it. I believe the Cisco routers are set to 1470 MTU or something close because packets are all that size when received by us. Backhaul links should allow jumbo packets. Our MT routers have L2 MTU set high - this is actually what the MPLS/VPLS packets use right? I was under the impression that the ethernet interface MTU was just used for IP traffic which has fine connectivity. I can test at the moment had to revert back to eoip tunnel to get it working again. I would very much like to pay someone for their time assisting me setting this up though. Need MPLS on top of our OSPF across the board and we have three edge routers that BGP peer with three upstream providers in three different cities. The sooner I accomplish this the better and at this point I'm asking for help because I don't have the luxury of time. This would be way better for someone to just look at my screen logged into router and check settings themselves... Too many settings on too many devices to type :) Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 4:24 PM To: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com, wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik MPLS voodoo First stage would be to check the basics. Can both ends of the VPLS tunnel ping each other? Are all interfaces between end points exchanging LDP? Assuming this is all good I suspect an MTU issue so have you got any RB450G, RB493G, older routerboards, etc. in the path? - Reply message - From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik MPLS voodoo Date: Sat, Jul 13, 2013 21:03 I have rolled out MPLS on about 4 hops on my network with anticipation of expanding that to all towers once the concept proves itself in this small section on the network. I'm having issue getting traffic to pass through VPLS tunnel in real life. In the lab it works, when we played with it in the past it works. I think we are overlooking something - hard to say because we do not have much real world experience dealing with MPLS anomalies. If anyone has rolled out MPLS on top of an OSPF routed network of reasonable size I'd love to pick your brain on a few things... let me know, you can hit me back on list or off. Appreciate it. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Maxxwave router MTU problem / question
Thats what I have bummer. The way you stated it I am led to believe in 6.x you can change MTU sizes with that chipset? Now they just have to make 6.x work good if thats the case I'm not convinced its fully baked yet from what I have seen. Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 6:55 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Maxxwave router MTU problem / question Check the ethernet chipset, Make sure it isn't the Intel 82583V chipset. This won't support jumbo frames in v5.X. On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net wrote: HI Scott, I bet you if you dropped a quick email with this question to Brian at Baltic networks you will get your answer. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 4:07:08 PM Subject: [WISPA] Maxxwave router MTU problem / question I know these are fairly popular routers so I was wondering if anyone has seen this issue before Mikrotik v5.24 or 5.25 - go to ethernet interface and open an interface, I can't increase the MTU size greater then the default 1500. Some of the Maxxwave routers I can. No rhyme or reason between them I can tell - some just allow the MTU change some don't. Not sure if this is MT fubar or some other issue with the device. Anyone? Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software
yep, the DHCP option is a life saver Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:58 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software Just a correction, you do not have to run the UniFi controller on the same LAN segment as the APs.Check the UniFi wiki for instructions on setting up the controller in Amazon Web Services. If you are using an MT probably the easiest way to do it is make sure that 'unifi' resolves to the controller address via DNS or DHCP option 43, instructions again found in the UniFi FAQ under L3 (Layer 3) Management On 07/10/2013 11:41 PM, Ben West wrote: I would second recommendations for UniFi APs. Along with a Mikrotik box (I personally like the $60 RB750GL for small deployments) to manage DHCP lease assignment, do hotspot stuff, and manage the VPN tunnel back to headquarters. That is, UniFi requires the java controller to sit on the same local network as the APs, so a work-around is to have the Mikrotik tunnel a VPN to your cloud server (or whatever) where the UniFi controller lives.You can also run your own hotspot server, and use some example PHP code provided by UBNT to integrate into existing infrastructure. UniFi runs just fine on $80 Picostation M2's, if you flash them with that airos2unifi.bin binary floating around UBNT support forum. If it's critical to support 'any' APs, maybe look into flashing those APs with OpenWRT, and then use a Mikrotik for the hotspot and lease assignment, coupled with a RADIUS server somewhere in the cloud. This will likely send you down the the path of building your own system, as Scott describes, and I agree about being wary of the scope of such a task, from being in the midst of doing this myself. On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: Make your own web pages to collect money however you see fit, use Mikrotik hotspot to handle the magic stuff, use whatever radios you want. Rolling your own system takes a respectable amount of work and skill but there is nothing like it once done because you control every aspect of it - how it looks, how it sends emails to your staff or customers and whats in those emails, how it takes the money, options for service lengths - just every aspect is completely customizable. If thats beyond the scope of what you are able to accomplish, I'm sure there are lots of other good suggestions people are offering as well. Just letting you know how we do it and it works super fantastic for a long time now. Programming skills required... Good luck Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:59 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software I need suggestion for a hotspot system for a campground. Requirements: Need to provide two levels of service Basic Free Service - lower speed, limited MB per day Paid Service - faster speed, unlimited use, billed as daily, 3 days or monthly service Paid service can be purchased via credit card in online portal, would be easiest if it could collect payment to our Propay merchant account, paypal is a less desirable option, but we do have a paypal acct as well. Compatible with any wifi APs, this year we will connect to current wifi APs in the park, probably overhaul that next season. Capable of handling 100-200 users, maybe 50megs traffic max. I would prefer an all in one box type system over a home made/server/open source solution. Needs to be proven reliable product and just work. Budget
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti M5 Powerbridge
what he said Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:20 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti M5 Powerbridge Get a pair of Rockets and put them into a flat panel with an enclosure by someone like ARC Wireless or IT Elite. They're a lot more flexible in terms of antenna selection, DFS availability, lower replacement cost, better RF shielding, etc. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:13:49 PM Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti M5 Powerbridge Anyone have any good or bad things to say about these? I am getting roped into a couple of links and looking for feedback before I marry them to myself. Tnx -B- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software
Make your own web pages to collect money however you see fit, use Mikrotik hotspot to handle the magic stuff, use whatever radios you want. Rolling your own system takes a respectable amount of work and skill but there is nothing like it once done because you control every aspect of it - how it looks, how it sends emails to your staff or customers and whats in those emails, how it takes the money, options for service lengths - just every aspect is completely customizable. If thats beyond the scope of what you are able to accomplish, I'm sure there are lots of other good suggestions people are offering as well. Just letting you know how we do it and it works super fantastic for a long time now. Programming skills required... Good luck Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:59 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software I need suggestion for a hotspot system for a campground. Requirements: Need to provide two levels of service Basic Free Service - lower speed, limited MB per day Paid Service - faster speed, unlimited use, billed as daily, 3 days or monthly service Paid service can be purchased via credit card in online portal, would be easiest if it could collect payment to our Propay merchant account, paypal is a less desirable option, but we do have a paypal acct as well. Compatible with any wifi APs, this year we will connect to current wifi APs in the park, probably overhaul that next season. Capable of handling 100-200 users, maybe 50megs traffic max. I would prefer an all in one box type system over a home made/server/open source solution. Needs to be proven reliable product and just work. Budget is ideally 200-300 for hardware and some modest monthly cost is OK if necessary. So, any suggestions? Thanks! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Fiber Contractor
If you just need it terminated I can do it. Email me offline if you still need assistance Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 12:39 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Fiber Contractor Anyone know a fiber contractor in the Orlando area? Need someone who can terminate some single mode fiber. --Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Aol Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/blog - xISP News http://www.zigwireless.com - High Speed Internet Options http://www.thebrotherswisp.com - The Brothers Wisp ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Metal building parapet wall mount for 3ft dish question
I've never disassembled a parapet wall on a metal building to see whats back behind the sheet metal that runs vertical on the roof side of the parapet wall, but I need to know whats back there and the best way to attach a 3ft licensed radio and dish and the mount needs to be beefy - as in welded galvanized mount that probably weighs 50 pounds itself. I'm going to need to tie into something substantial behind the flimsy wall sheet metal. I've mounted lighter loads to these walls but I just need this to stay put - it can't flex or move at all I have 3deg to work with on 11ghz and its out of town. Anyone know of a mount that works good for this or can tell me whats back in there? They must all be made similarly as every metal building I've seen is built the same. I have included a link to a photo showing exactly what it looks like. Dish needs to go next to the other jpole there - I have no idea what that is and I didn't put it there fyi :) Thanks, appreciate it. Link - http://flhsi.com/files/parapet.jpg Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
