Re: [WISPA] Erate Invoices
Yes. You can search past 471 at the USAC website using the search tool. You will need to determine what the BE discount rate is and then back that out of the contracted amount to determine what the school actually pays. http://usac.org/sl/tools/default.aspx Chris Cooper Intelliwave LLC From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 1:29 PM To: WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org) Subject: [WISPA] Erate Invoices Being failry new to Erate, is there a way to research past Erate invoices on services provided to schools? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Prevailing Wage
We pay Davis-Bacon wages on our stimulus project work. Its not hard to deal with. You have to pay any worker working on site the proper wage, pay them weekly, document it properly and fill out the wage report for each week. Make sure you look up and apply the proper wage determination for the county/twp that the work is completed in. You can look that up on DOL website. If you cannot find a WD for your particular workers/work to be performed, you will need to complete a DOL form 1444 and submit that to DOL for approval. DOL will provide definitive answers. Put up the wage notices in office and on jobsite. Make sure each worker knows how much they are paid per hour and what, if any, deductions come out of that rate. Keep your files in order in case they do audit you. Chris Cooper Intelliwave LLC -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nathan Stooke Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Prevailing Wage Hello, We are working on several wireless and security camera proposals for municipalities in our area, Illinois. The question has been raised about Prevailing Wage and if we have to pay it. When looking into it, it looks like we do. All $44/hour to any one that works on the project. I do not want to get people all up in arms about the Prevailing Wage act. That is a discussion we can have at a WISPA show after hours. :) Has anyone had to deal with this? Did you get a for sure answers yes or no? Where you audited and survived? Thanks ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] OT: I have to share this.. Its BIG news for Colorado ISP's..
The important thing to remember is that each application had to be submitted with an environmental plan attached. Winning applicants had their environmental documents submitted for environmental review and approval. Awardees can't deviate from the approved environmental plan, at least not without additional environmental approvals from EPA, USFS, USFWS etc. If they did indeed get hung up for environmental reasons this could have nothing whatsoever to do with the perceived or actual merits of the project. If whatever they were doing caused them to violate the terms of an EIS or caused them to need to prepare an EIS then that alone is a show stopper. The awarding agencies want these projects to get built but awardees have to follow the law. Chris Cooper Intelliwave -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Fred Goldstein Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 9:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: I have to share this.. Its BIG news for Colorado ISP's.. At 12/7/2012 08:56 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: The environmental certifications aren't what bother me (well, it bothers me that they need them in the first place), but that they were building where they weren't funded for. I can understand some of the environmental rules; digging up the ground in wetlands and other sensitive areas can be quite harmful. However, the actual processes are probably a lot more details and complex than they need to be, especially since nothing spills out of a communications conduit or fiber pipe. But it was a convenient way to call ENA out for building where they were not supposed to. They were apparently trying to reach their percentage milestones by building fiber in low-cost prairie areas of eastern Colorado instead of high-cost mountains of western Colorado. Only others had already built in the east, with REA funding, so it wasn't needed there, and it left the west unserved. ENA (and NTIA) were given several offers to settle, but turned them down, or pretended to accept them but went ahead anyway. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 8:06:37 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: I have to share this.. Its BIG news for Colorado ISP's.. At 12/6/2012 06:56 PM, Ryan Ghering wrote: probably will be tomorrow.. I got a call from my Boss who got a call from Greg Brophy who got a call from Cory Gardner.. Then I found the tweets.. Cory's tweet Rep. Cory Gardner @repcorygardner BREAKING: Grant suspended for govt funded broadband provider EAGLE-Net due to ongoing concerns relating to compliance with grant rules The suspension letter was posted on the ntia web site. However, that site is not very reliable, and doesn't seem to be up now. A copy was downloaded by the lawyer who has been leading the opposition to ENA (I've been helping him out a bit myself) and he sent it to me. ENA's grant was suspended on (theoretically) environmental grounds. By not building where they had originally proposed, and by not doing full environmental review of the actual revised routes that they were building, they were in violation of the grant. So they are frozen. They can get permission to start building again if they can complete the various requirements (quite a few, actually) that they are not in compliance with. Of course the easiest way to do that would be to go back to the originally-approved plan. You know, the one whose maps were redacted in the original public form of the application by having a black box layer placed atop them in the multi-layered PDF... gee that isn't hard to remove in OpenOffice, is it? :-) On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote: is there a news article or something??? On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: SenatorBrophy @SenatorBrophy Eagle-Net grant pulled. Stimulus boon-doogle that hurt businesses in rural Colorado reigned in. Damage was already done, recovery starts. Word is the CEO of Eagle-Net has also resigned!!! BEST NEWS EVER!!! -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Oh Great take from the poor and give to the rich!
Forbes There are roughly 60 days left before the election. I doubt I could get the local dog catcher candidate to take a policy position 60 days out from the election, much less a complicated position. The election has the nation polarized. In Ohio the race is neck and neck +/- a few points. I figure that represents my customers pretty well. If I believe that the lobbying efforts would be fruitless, why would I expose my business to retribution by alienating members of one party or the other? Just doesn't make sense to me. Chris -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 2:40 PM To: wireless@wispa.org; Legislative Activity for WISPA Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh Great take from the poor and give to the rich! Chris, Let me reason this out with you and Jack. I've always felt WISPA is too conservative in simply making filings and a rare visit. I've felt that education of our Congressional members has helped them remember us when staff reviews new laws. What we haven't done is bear any pressure or seek to make our issues into the public consciousness. This is an election year, a rare moment when small issues become campaign promises (whether kept or not). I will only touch on politics for a moment, keep in mind a Democrat FCC Chairman is proud that he converted USF to CAF and seeks to expand it's revenue by adding broadband. The Republicans are screaming for 'no new tax' issues, just last night Ryan called out Corporate Welfare. Here we are with this huge outdated tax and the FCC wants to make it bigger by taxing a whole new industry. The main points we can make are: 1) Congress said no tax on the Internet and now the FCC wants to go around them and tax the Internet anyway 2) 100% of the new tax would go to corporate welfare not directly helping a single tax payer, it's socialized Internet 3) The Telco industry isn't even a Broadband company, they are a telephone company no more than cable is an Internet company. At least cable got investors to build their networks, telco wants the government to pay for all of their expansion. 4) The cost of Wireless to expand to areas is a fraction of the cost of wireline but is being completely left out. I think a properly briefed politician could get excited about helping to push our agenda, make it public and dramatically raise the profile of our discussion. Imagine a politician who took a pledge of no new taxes having to take on the burden of having approved a new tax in CAF. There is nothing radical about taking advantage of opportunities and the election cycle seems primed for our issues. Politics is always a radical and risky proposition but no one here has yet to say how this will hurt us other to say it's risky. I'm all ears. Forbes On 8/29/2012 11:37 AM, chris cooper wrote: I wouldn't do that in the pre election climate. It seems like it could be taken a couple of different ways, any one of which might alienate 50% of your customers. cc -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 2:25 PM To: wireless@wispa.org; fcccommit...@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh Great take from the poor and give to the rich! I wonder if it would benefit us to send a New Tax Coming to a Constituent Near You release where in this era of taxes being waged to pay off debt, a new tax is being proposed by the FCC to the broadband industry which will only serve to subsidize the telephone industry with broadband deriving zero benefit? Instead of defensive it's a pro-active move where politicians running under a no new taxes platform will have to roll it in. I know the FCC wouldn't be thrilled with us but we've felt all along the USF to CAF conversion was just the FCC helping the Telco industry to do a hostile takeover of our broadband industry with government aid and we shouldn't be afraid to say it. Forbes On 8/28/2012 2:28 PM, Jack Unger wrote: Throw out that word tax and everyone gets all excited but this is really old news and not really any news at all. Just the transition of the USF program (subsidies to extend phone service to rural areas) into the CAF program where the subsidies will now go to extend broadband service to the boonies. WISPA has made a ton of FCC filings on this already. Most of them are defensive in nature (preventing WISPs from being overbuilt) but a few are offensive - trying to open up the possibilities for WISPs that want subsidies (most don't) to get them. jack On 8/28/2012 1:20 PM, Jim Patient wrote: http://www.ijreview.com/2012/08/13896-fcc-may-soon-tax-internet-service/ Jim Patient Link Technologies, Inc. 314-735-0270 x102 http://wlan1.com http://towercoverage.com http://towercoverage.com/ http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net
Re: [WISPA] Oh Great take from the poor and give to the rich!
I wouldn't do that in the pre election climate. It seems like it could be taken a couple of different ways, any one of which might alienate 50% of your customers. cc -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 2:25 PM To: wireless@wispa.org; fcccommit...@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh Great take from the poor and give to the rich! I wonder if it would benefit us to send a New Tax Coming to a Constituent Near You release where in this era of taxes being waged to pay off debt, a new tax is being proposed by the FCC to the broadband industry which will only serve to subsidize the telephone industry with broadband deriving zero benefit? Instead of defensive it's a pro-active move where politicians running under a no new taxes platform will have to roll it in. I know the FCC wouldn't be thrilled with us but we've felt all along the USF to CAF conversion was just the FCC helping the Telco industry to do a hostile takeover of our broadband industry with government aid and we shouldn't be afraid to say it. Forbes On 8/28/2012 2:28 PM, Jack Unger wrote: Throw out that word tax and everyone gets all excited but this is really old news and not really any news at all. Just the transition of the USF program (subsidies to extend phone service to rural areas) into the CAF program where the subsidies will now go to extend broadband service to the boonies. WISPA has made a ton of FCC filings on this already. Most of them are defensive in nature (preventing WISPs from being overbuilt) but a few are offensive - trying to open up the possibilities for WISPs that want subsidies (most don't) to get them. jack On 8/28/2012 1:20 PM, Jim Patient wrote: http://www.ijreview.com/2012/08/13896-fcc-may-soon-tax-internet-service/ Jim Patient Link Technologies, Inc. 314-735-0270 x102 http://wlan1.com http://towercoverage.com http://towercoverage.com/ http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author (2003) - Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks Serving the WISP Community since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 760-678-5033 jun...@ask-wi.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5231 - Release Date: 08/28/12 inline: image001.jpg___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Datamatic Mosaic 900Mhz smart water meter
We worked with Datamatic in 2006 when they began deploying smart meters locally. One high density neighborhood where they deployed the meters was directly under one of our 900Mhz sites. The site is very high so we know we look down on every meter they have. We tested with the vendor and we did not interfere with them and they didn't cause us any problems either. If I recall, the unit itself broadcasts at .5 db. Chris Cooper Intelliwave LLC -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Martha Huizenga Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 1:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Datamatic Mosaic 900Mhz smart water meter Sean, Good luck. I think any of the smart meters running on 900mhz will interfere with your network if you are running 900mhz. We had only a couple of handfuls of customers on 900mhz when our electric company installed their smart meters. They run all the time and blast their signal. We just couldn't compete. Eventhough we contacted them , we have to move our 900mhz customers back to 2.4 or uninstall them if the 2.4 signal wasn't good enough. Don't take their word for it. Ask to test with them, so you don't interfere with each other. Martha Martha Huizenga 202-546-5898 DC Access, LLC http://www.dcaccess.net/ Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet! Connecting the Capitol Hill Community Join us on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/DCAccess or follow us on Twitter http://twitter.com/dcaccess Is your Message Lost in Cyberspace? Promote your business locally with HillAds http://www.hillads.com On 8/9/2012 5:05 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: Hi Gang, Does anyone have any experience with the Datamatic Mosaic 900Mhz smart water meter in their coverage area? Our city is planning on installing such a system and the company (Datamatic) is claiming they have never interfered with a WISP and they have never received interference from a WISP. If you have any experience I would greatly appreciate your input. Thanks, Sean Heskett ZIRKEL Wireless High-speed Internet www.zirkelwireless.com 970-871-8500 x100 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] UBNT
There are other considerations besides cost. It's important to consider total cost of ownership. What devices cost you the least to put up? How does that square up with longevity? What causes the fewest repeat truck rolls and gives the greatest customer experience? How does it scale across a large network? Thanks, Chris Cooper On Sep 23, 2011, at 4:30 PM, jch...@tritontelephone.com wrote: I'm not knocking motorola. It has it's place. (god knows I loved my startac:) but for the money ubnt makes Norte sense. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 23, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Robert Canary rwcan...@mchn39.ocdirect.net wrote: I know this is bogus. I ran Motorola and it was the worst system I had ever deployed. I thought I was doing great, until I started runnng AirSpan and Alvarion. It wasn't long I was on the phone selling *all* my motorola to my competitors. Robert Canary OCDirect Electrical-Datacomm (866) 594-0786 Fax (270) 955-0362 Voice - Original Message - Here is a radio comparison test done at the last animal farm. www.linktechs.net/AF2011_Bakeoff.pdf Jim -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 12:05 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Which UBNT 2.4 or 5.7 radios will do 45MB duplex over two miles. Thanks Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe AS Technologies Ltd Tel. 234(0)8023258027 --- --- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3914 - Release Date: 09/23/11 --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Motorola Canopy and Orthogon SOLD!
Overall I think the WBB business is a pretty small piece of the Moto pie. I think it's interesting that a private equity company made a bet on wireless broadband. They must think that the long term industry outlook is good, growth is ongoing and that the government focus on BB will only increase opportunity. Or they bought it at a fire sale. Chris Cooper Intelliwave -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Drew Lentz Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:05 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Motorola Canopy and Orthogon SOLD! Hey, they make cable modems and pagers too! :-P -d From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Parr Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 10:49 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Motorola Canopy and Orthogon SOLD! On 23 August 2011 13:40, Drew Lentz d...@drewlentz.com wrote: http://www.rcrwireless.com/article/20110823/INFRASTRUCTURE/110829988/-1/ ?utm_source=rss http://www.rcrwireless.com/article/20110823/INFRASTRUCTURE/110829988/-1 /?utm_source=rssutm_medium=itemutm_campaign=rssutm_medium=twitterutm _source=twitterfeed utm_medium=itemutm_campaign=rssutm_medium=twitterutm_source=twitterf eed So they've sold off their smartphone division, and their fixed wireless products, now what? Just an uber walkie talkie vendor? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Alltel towers
Have you tried American? They ended up with the Alltel structures around us. Chris -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of m...@tc3net.com Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 9:10 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Alltel towers Does anyone have up to date contact info for the current owner of the former Alltel's towers? Not having much luck searching. Regards Michael Baird WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ARRA / RUS Proposales
Broadbandusa.gov Thanks, Chris Cooper On May 27, 2011, at 1:42 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Is there a website where I can see the full granted proposals? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cat-5 Tracer
You should be able to use a tone/probe kit to trace the lines out. Clip the toner on one cable, return to switch and use the probe to locate that line, then repeat on each successive line. Chris Intelliwave -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 10:14 AM To: WUG; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Cat-5 Tracer Have a network closet with 16 port switch. Drops go all over building. Want to label each one in the closet as to where it goes. Is there any easy way to trace these lines short of taking each one offline? Doubt it but thought I would ask. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tower Enclosure
Lcom has some decent fiberglass models that should work. Chris Intelliwave -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of can...@believewireless.net Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 10:52 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Tower Enclosure Anyone have any suggestions for a small enclosure to use on a tower? We plan to put it at about 500 feet with a fiber convertor, switch and power for the APs. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Connected Nation Rules
Ive said good things about CO staff in the past. Check the archives. One of the CO staff work for Intelliwave previously. I know for a fact that he understands WISPS, wants us to succeed and really cares about getting broadband to rural subscribers. Chris Cooper Intelliwave LLC -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 11:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Connected Nation Rules Were you paid to say that or do you honestly feel that? That would definitely be a first praise to my ears. On Jan 15, 2011 9:26 AM, David Hannum oujas...@gmail.com wrote: Wow - it's amazing how different everyone's experiences with CN has been. We've had just the opposite of most of the folks posting here. We've had great support for our wireless efforts . . . everything from design and engineering to going out and finding us money to do special projects with. If we can understand that at the root, they HAVE TO BE technology independent, they do have some very good wireless folks, Chip Spann and Bart Winegar among them. As for the meeting that Robert was refering to, here in Ohio they (Connect Ohio) have a grant that, to my way of thinking, helps me or any other provider. They are offering training for folks who are not versed in the Internet to drive adoption. Then, then in exchange for providers offering some discount to the folks who participate in the class, they will advertise your services, and encourage folks to subscribe. That's what was presented to Robert. I don't see why he was so offended by that proposition. Again, it's all in your perception. All I can say is that we have found that they can be very helpful and are very willing to help. Do we take every suggestion or service they offer? No way. But just because we can't use something they offer does not make them bad. I can say without hesitation, that I've not found them to be in the hip pocket of the telcos or big boys at all. They've been very supportive of our efforts here. Dave Hannum New Era Broadband, LLC On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: You know at the time I saw the email, I was surprised. However, nobody on this list knows about the joke of a deal CN is like Rick and I do. After the millions of dollars in tax revenue and all this mapping, that public information was removed from their website. Millions of tax paying dollars down the drain. Because of the potential WISPA problems, I won't tell you how I really feel. On Saturday, January 15, 2011, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The problem was the lack of maturity and how bad the content makes WISPA look. We have our opinions. We are people. But we, as adults and businesses or representatives, need too display a level of advancement. On Jan 14, 2011 9:39 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: -- Regards, Chuck WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Telescoping Mast
What about the customer that shows a solid GE value but has an obstruction that prevents service? Don't you get an unhappy prospect that missed a day of work for an install that doesn't happen? Chris -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 1:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Telescoping Mast We stopped doing site surveys. If they show they are covered on our Radio Mobile Google Earth overlays, we schedule an install. If they don't get a good signal then we don't charge them anything. We had too many great signals with ok I'll talk to my wife and get back with you. Jim Patient Cell: 314-565-6863 Desk: 636-692-4200 YIM: jeffcosoho www.wlan1.com www.linktechs.net www.wifimidwest.com On 11/5/2010 10:53 PM, Liam Cummings wrote: Anyone know of a place where I can get some sort of telescoping mast that I can tow behind me in my truck or maybe just put on my tow hitch? Oh yeah and it needs to be cheap too. I want to start using something like this for our site surveys because it would be much easier than getting out the telescoping pole we use and having someone hold it steady with a radio on it. I was thinking of just making one myself but even the telescoping pole itself is hard to find. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] WR EUM
Looking for some Waverider EUM 3004/3005. Hit me offlist if you have any to sell. Thanks Chris Cooper WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Netflix goes to Canada partly because of great Broadband
Interesting language from the CEO of a consumer services company regarding his customer base: THR: Are you concerned that American Netflix subscribers will look north and ask for the same discount Canadians get at $7.99? Hastings: How much has it been your experience that Americans follow what happens in the world? It's something we'll monitor, but Americans are somewhat self-absorbed. Doesn't hurt that Blockbuster filed Chapter 11. Maybe the Canadians will be able to stream more than the latest Gunsmoke reruns. But they still cant stream Red Green. Go figure. Chris Intelliwave -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Hannum Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 12:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Netflix goes to Canada partly because of great Broadband Reed Hastings: For now we're focused on Canada. If we succeed in Canada, we will certainly look at other markets. But each market is unique, and what attracted us to Canada is great broadband, and a great love of movies and TV shows. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3if1d3902d1257 4ec222961f1deec0fd2b No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.856 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3152 - Release Date: 09/23/10 02:34:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?
I can't fully trust a man with a hyphenated last name Thanks, Chris Cooper On Sep 22, 2010, at 6:43 PM, John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com wrote: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/it-8217s-official-carrier-pigeons-are-faster-than-rural-internet/173?tag=nl.e539 --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trees under half mile
Ive never deployed Canopy 900. Vendor materials say it will work at a 3 db C/I. Can you keep a solid connection w/ decent throughput at that ratio? Chris -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:05 PM To: n...@atomsplash.com; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trees under half mile At my house, I live in a hole with about ¾ mile of solid oak trees between me and the tower. 2.4Ghz in the late spring (meaning good, saturated leaves) I can run 4meg. When it rains, service will be spotty and sometimes drop. I would never install a customer in those conditions. We do have a few customers through trees, but with our noise floor here, we dont do much more than just a few trees at a pretty close proximity to our APs. I wouldnt even think about 5Ghz through trees at all. 3650 havent done anything through trees yet so I dont know. 900Mhz worked great for us for awhile but noise floor went too high and couldnt work around it so we pulled all our 900 equipment. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick White Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 10:50 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trees under half mile So what kinds of distances are people currently going through trees, and what kinds of signals, CCQ, throughput, etc. are you seeing? I guess I'm looking for success stories. I need to sell this to the partners. I know it can be done, and I'm fairly confident it will work in this situation, but they aren't. I've found a few instances online of people going 1 mile with 5.8 through some trees and still pulling off a -65 and 20Mbps of throughput - this was PTP. I know 3.65Ghz is supposed to be somewhere between 2.4 and 5.8 in terms of tree penetration, but I'm thinking this might be a good place to use 3.65, simply because of the lack of noise. I have never worked with 900Mhz as of yet. This was our initial alternative, but there is the added cost of deployment - $160 for a LocoM900 vs $80 for a NanobridgeM2. Literally doubles our ROI. On 9/13/2010 3:58 PM, Glenn Kelley wrote: 3.65 is limited in that you can only go as high as 99 feet I believe - someone will correct me if I am wrong. If you are using airmax - 2.4 should help 5ghz you may have some issues w/ trees however My suggestion is a mix - I noticed that you have not mentioned 900mhz 900 and trees especially at that distance - sub 1 mile is awesome - but doubt you will see the 10mbps speeds you wish. 5ghz is your best choice - if you can use it. setting up both 2.4 and 5ghz sectors may help - double the cost - but in the end - would allow you the most flexibility On Sep 13, 2010, at 6:20 PM, Nick White wrote: om this tower, no one in town would be more than .75 miles away. I'm thinking 10Mhz channels - 1, 6, 11. If we do this, I will likely use the UBNT shields that I've seen for sale with three 120deg sectors. _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3137 - Release Date: 09/15/10 14:34:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespace Comment Deadline Sept 16th. All WISPsfileimmediately.
Done Chris Cooper Intelliwave -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespace Comment Deadline Sept 16th. All WISPsfileimmediately. As will we... - Original Message - From: Jeremie Chism mailto:jchi...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 9:11 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespace Comment Deadline Sept 16th. All WISPsfile immediately. Will make time today. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2010, at 11:00 AM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote: Update on TV Whitespaces Comments: There are currently 44 WISP comments publicized on the FCC Website supporting the WISPA proposal. Keep up the good work but we still need more! We need everyone to take 15 minutes out of your busy day to voice your opinion on the WISPA TV Whitespaces filing. We have attached a template letter that you can use. 1. Download attachment and customize it. Can be submitted as DOC or PDF. It is as simple as adding your name and bits of information about your specific need. 2. Submit to http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/upload/display?z=rhroc http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/upload/display?z=rhroc with the proceeding numbers 04-186 and 02-380. Give me a call if you have any questions. UPDATE: WISP Filing updates are beginning to show up in the FCC database. Good job and thank you to those who have filed. Go to http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/comment_search/input?z=vd7pb http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/comment_search/input?z=vd7pb and search for 04-186 to read other WISP comments. More importantly, get your comments filed pronto. The deadline is September 16, 2010. We need a good showing from the WISP industry to substantiate the importance of our industry in the decision making process. This is not about WISPA, it is about your future and the WISP industry. All WISPs, This week, WISPA filed comments on the TV Whitespaces once again. The FCC is set to make decisions on this crucial topic very soon. It is imperative for all operators to take a few minutes and file individual comments to the FCC about Unlicensed use of the TV Whitespaces spectrum this week. Please don't procrastinate as the timeline is fairly short. I have attached a template support letter that Jack Unger has written to make your support and comment filing easier. Jack, Steve Coran and the FCC committee has worked hard for several years and especially in our recent filing. We need to support their hard work efforts and produce a mass support campaign to give the WISPA filing even more credibility. WISPs need more spectrum and we need spectrum that will penetrate foliage and other obstacles. This is our opportunity and essentially our obligation to stand up for our needs before this crucial decision is made. The WISPA filing can be read at http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7020911589 http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7020911589. Please customize the attached template letter with your company information and if you want to add additional local flavor, it is accepted. The FCC staff will read each letter and register the support for the WISPA filing to assist them in making this tough decision. We have received excellent comments back from the FCC, other trade associations and manufacturers about this filing and now our membership and industry participants need to stand up and be counted as well. Once you have customized the letter, please make a .pdf copy or a .doc file and upload it at the following website. http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/upload/display?z=rhroc http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/upload/display?z=rhroc. If you choose not to use the WISPA template letter but want to write your own comments, you can either follow the previous procedure or use the Express filing method at http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/upload/display?z=nc5cd http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/upload/display?z=nc5cd. The proceeding number is 04-186. I cannot stress how important this is for each WISP company to do. I hope to search the filings Monday morning and find 1000 or more new comments supporting the WISPA filing. Take the time and git r dun before your busy work schedule begins again Monday morning. Respectfully, Rick Harnish Executive Director WISPA 260-307-4000 cell 866-317-2851 WISPA Office Skype: rick.harnish. Rick Harnish Executive Director WISPA 260-307-4000 cell 866-317-2851 WISPA Office Skype: rick.harnish. rharn...@wispa.org White Spaces Template Letter.doc WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] speed test
Big, soon to get bigger, fiber routes in Piketon though. Chris -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 9:22 PM To: n...@brevardwireless.com; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test I've now been defaulted to PIKETON!Piketon is in the middle of nowhere and is a defunct nuclear plutonium enrichment facility for the US government. MIDDLE OF THE STICKS! HA! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 9:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test Its worse then that here. Were 6ms off the local speedtest server. And it still gives us crap. Nick Olsen Network Operations (877) 804-3001 x106 _ From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 11:03 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test Ironton! For me Ironton SUCKS! Ping 108ms!!! Why in the hell are they defaulting g you to arm pit Ironton? Been there that place sucks! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 7:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test My fiver is through TW. They insist I use the Ironton server which, IMO always provides an accurate result. The issue is these people dont believe it and want to see their speed results elsewhere :( On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Speed test mini just after your upstream pipe. On Sep 12, 2010 7:29 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: OK for all your speed hungry customers that want to run speed tests to speedtest.net and dslreports.com - the question is: what do you do? I've never really had good results with off net speed tests even when removing the load and running directly t from my laptop to my fiber connection. But I get these people who think they're not getting what they pay for :( -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3134 - Release Date: 09/14/10 02:35:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] speed test
He is my father. Know him? Thanks, Chris Cooper On Sep 14, 2010, at 8:44 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just- micro.com wrote: CHRIS! You related to Gary out of Waverly?! Yeah, know of the fiber, weird……. But makes sense due to the high priority governmental hoi polloi out that way. But giving me n asty ping times. Must be getting “scanned” before the return……… Taking off the tin foil hat now. Albert- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of chris cooper Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 4:37 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test Big, soon to get bigger, fiber routes in Piketon though. Chris -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 9:22 PM To: n...@brevardwireless.com; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test I’ve now been defaulted to PIKETON!Piketon is in the middle of n owhere and is a defunct nuclear plutonium enrichment facility for th e US government. MIDDLE OF THE STICKS! HA! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 9:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test Its worse then that here. Were 6ms off the local speedtest server. And it still gives us crap. Nick Olsen Network Operations (877) 804-3001 x106 From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 11:03 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test Ironton! For me Ironton SUCKS! Ping 108ms!!! Why in the hell are they defaulting g you to arm pit Ironton? Been there…….. that place sucks! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 7:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test My fiver is through TW. They insist I use the Ironton server which, IMO always provides an accurate result. The issue is these people dont believe it and want to see their speed results elsewhere :( On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Speed test mini just after your upstream pipe. On Sep 12, 2010 7:29 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: OK for all your speed hungry customers that want to run speed tests to speedtest.net and dslreports.com - the question is: what do you do? I've never really had good results with off net speed tests even when removing the load and running directly t from my laptop to my fiber connection. But I get these people who think they're not getting what they pay for :( -RickG --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3134 - Release Date: 09/14/10 02:35:00 --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] More BTOP/BIP
Round two awards are up to 70% grant without a waiver. RUS expects to be paid back on the loan portion and structures the deals so that they are made whole before anyone else. Thanks, Chris Cooper On Aug 20, 2010, at 10:58 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote: At 8/20/2010 10:04 PM, you wrote: Is this free money or loans? I think it's all grants. The funny thing is that the RUS BIP grants were basically only given to existing RUS lendees. So they won't be asking Windstream et al to repay these. Of course the repayment doesn't come from them -- it comes from USF, another tax. On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote: At 8/20/2010 02:49 PM, you wrote: Where does Bip/Btop post these awards? http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/microsites/20100818_Broadband_Awards.pdf The BIP money mostly went to ILECs, it seems. Windstream cleaned up again. I see one WISP there (Wave Wireless). And a bunch of satellite stuff. The BTOP side was a little more varied. On 08/17/2010 06:51 PM, Charles Wu (CTI) wrote: Word on the street is that there are a few more award announcements coming out tomorrow… -Charles -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consultinghttp://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] UBNT Grounding
We've had numerous storms here over the past couple of weeks. We have replaced a box full of Nano and Bullets. This leads me to believe that our install practices might be improved. How are others grounding these units effectively? Thanks Chris Intelliwave WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tell Google not to destroy the Internet
Content is king. If you own the content and can manage your own disribution, especially content that flows cheaply over other's networks (like us) you gain flexibility and deeper cost control by bypassing the traditional content distribution mechanisms There is a dynamic shift coming. Time Warner should be concerned Thanks, Chris Cooper On Aug 9, 2010, at 6:34 PM, Travis Hawthorne travis.hawtho...@moonblink.com wrote: It's Monday, here's what Google and Verizon were working on http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/08/google-verizon-propose-open-vs-paid-internets/ -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 10:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Tell Google not to destroy the Internet http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-silver/google-verizon-deal-the-e_b_67 1617.html They are closing a deal with Verizon on Monday that will essentially blackmail content providers. Want your content to get through faster? Pay us. That is pretty much it in a nutshell. Maybe ISPs around the world should block Google entirely unless they pay you then. Patrick As an individual --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Google, VZ and Net Neutrality
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/05/technology/05secret.html?_r=1hp Chris Cooper Intelliwave WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Ohio WISPS Get USDA Funding
Congratulations to Dave Hannum at New Era on his USDA award today. Southern Ohio Communications also pulled one down. It's a good day for WISPs in Southern Ohio all around. Nice job guys. Chris Cooper Intelliwave LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Roof Mounts
Does anyone know where I can find a non penetrating roof mount sizeable enough to hold a couple of 24 drums? It needs to be able to fit over the peak of a roof and have space on both sides for ballast. Cant seem to locate such a beast readily. Thanks Chris Intelliwave WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] WISP makes the Times....
A tip of the hat to Rusty Irvin for making it into today's NY Times. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/10/technology/10broadband.html?pagewanted =1hp Chris Cooper Intelliwave LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] BBC Arcticle- TitleII reclass
Here's an interesting list of Comcast assets: http://arstechnica.com/media/news/2009/12/what-exactly-does-comcast-alre ady-own-heres-a-list.ars Couple all these with a stake in NBC/Universal and you have a content mega powerhouse. If you own the content and own distribution you can control the market. Blocking content = blocking competition. Chris WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cheap Bird Deterrent Methods
http://www.birdbgone.com/products/plastic-bird-spikes These work for us. Glue them to the top of your sectors. Chris Intelliwave -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 11:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Cheap Bird Deterrent Methods Birds suck. Bird crap all over the new sectors, grids, everything. Tired of coming home smelling of bird crap. I prefer my usual stink. Is anyone using the plastic owls or any other weird thing to keep those flying crap machines off the AP's? i think of it everytime I climb a grain leg but never do anything about it. This is the year! Oh, and racoons. One AP is a 100 foot grain bin with steps up the side. Racoon poop (i only imagine that it what it is) on every other step. That I can deal with, I have kids afterall. But the birds just need to stop. Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] connected nation mapping data
NOFA for this grant can be found here: http://broadbandusa.gov/info_lib.htm This covers the data they are looking for. Chris Cooper Intelliwave -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 2:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] connected nation mapping data I agree. Can someone point to where the NTIA has published the requirements? Jack Unger wrote: It would be good to see some type of documentation that the data contractors and the PSC are telling the truth about the NTIA mandating that they collect such detailed data. Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: I was on a conference call with the State of Nebraska broadband mapping contractors and the Public Service Commission this morning and came away with a bad feeling. Based on the Form477 data, and the PSC's broadband provider registration information, there are 283 broadband providers in the state of Nebraska. But they only have complete information for about 25, and signed NDAs from only 160. I offered to them that they would have better luck getting data if they weren't asking for so much information.The data template that they ask for includes: 1) All subscriber addresses, and the type of broadband deployed at that location 2) GPS coordinates for all of our tower locations, the types of antennas provided and the frequencies in use at that location 3) Key anchor institutions that are receiving service from our system I have had a couple of phone calls and several emails back and forth with the mapping subcontractors, and they (and the PSC) are still adamant about the data collection requirements. I thought that we had negotiated to the point that they would accept a shape file and a summary of the number of subscribers per census block, but the phone call this morning confirmed that incomplete data submissions (ones that do not include the tower verification information and subscriber information in the format that they requested) will not be included in the summary data, or the state broadband availability map that will be released to the public. The contractors and the attorney for the PSC gave the indication that the NTIA is mandating this level of data collection, and that their NDA should be enough protection to ensure the safety of our proprietary information. My position, and the position of the majority of WISP operators that I have visited with, is that I am not going to turn over the information that they are asking for. Full disclosure of all my tower sites and the addresses of my customers is an onerous request and fundamentally unnecessary to determine where broadband coverage exists within the state. I would prefer to run the risk of being overbuilt by a government funded program in the future than to turn over information to entities (NTIA in particular) that could be legally obligated to turn over that information through a FOIA request. I don't know whether it is too late to push back at the NTIA to reduce the data that they are requesting. I can sympathise to a certain degree with the PSC and the contractors, as they are just trying to collect the data that NTIA has mandated them to collect. But they are simply asking for too much information. In the end, it will be another inaccurate representation of broadband coverage and that information will be used to develop policy and programs that will make the competitive environment for WISPs and other independent ISPs even more difficult to succeed in. That sucks. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com On 4/12/2010 10:29 AM, Tom DeReggi wrote: BTOP Mapping grants given to States are Federal initiatives. The states have to answer and report to the Feds on their progress. Basically they will report to the Feds, who they contacted, and who provided info and who didn't. The State mappers have little authority to do anything about whether you give them information or not. But the Feds potentially could. Remember it is FCC policy/law to provide Form 477 data, down to Census track. It may come down to a legal issue on whether the FCC has authority to demand confidential information or not from provate companies. When a WISP does not provide info, whether the Feds or States make a stink about it, may depend on the impact of the data that would be missing, and their real legal opinion which I'm sure they would not truly disclose outside of court. In MD, we were just contacted, and the mapping initiative is really a racket for free money. MD had already started a very substanial mapping effort at the State Level. But that is considered different. So with teh BTOP mapping grant they got, they cant or choose not to use the pre-existing MApping platform, and basically are starting a seperate project to comply to the federal initatives. Basically
Re: [WISPA] Stimulus waste
The agencies will load the PFSA maps into BB USA.gov. They will open a 30 day comment window and then service providers will be given the opportunity to comment. Chris -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 10:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Stimulus waste Do you have the link to do the protests? Travis Microserv Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: I filed 32 protests during the first round of the stimulus plan, and none of them were funded. Protest long and protest often. From what I have seen so far, most of the frivolous projects have been rejected handily. Don't get all worked up about the waste until it finally comes to pass. It was pretty clear from looking at the first round apps that there were a lot of stupid, wasteful applications. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com On 4/7/2010 7:29 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: Insert explicatives here Thats 26 Y E A R S of my higher end tier of service, per customer. Why the #3!! do things not get BID out? Who can do X users for the lowest $ I mean come on, that is just horrible. It doesnt even factor in what those new users will be paying for the service. I need to find out if they have applies for my area, I manage client networks with qwest dsl and they have been giving some BS about upgrading modems (for a /mo fee) when all the sites have adsl2+ modems. Not good On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Travis Johnsont...@ida.net wrote: Hi, So, as I said since the Broadband Stimulus act was passed, the money will be wasted. Qwest just applied for $467 MILLION dollars to upgrade their DSL infrastructure in my coverage areas. They want to expand and upgrade the slower 7meg connections to go up to 12 to 40 megabytes per second. The article says they will increase coverage to 29,922 new customers. That's an average cost of $15,607 PER CUSTOMER. Many of the areas they list (Idaho Falls, Rexburg, Ammon, Blackfoot, Rigby, Shelley, etc.) already have at least 3 providers and some have 4 or 5 provider choices. Let the waste begin :( Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] dry copper solution
Im looking for a copper solution that will allow me to use a dry pair to extend service to a location @ 3 miles distant. Any pointers much appreciated. Thanks Chris Cooper Intelliwave WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] VZ Tower Contact
Does anyone have a good contact for VZ tower Co-lo in the Midwest? Thanks Chris Cooper Intelliwave WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Electric Hoist?
http://www.hoistsdirect.com/MY-TE%20Hoist.htm We have one of the 300 models. Works great Chris Cooper Intelliwave I need to Install 2 4' dishes @ 180, Im looking for a place to buy or rent a capstan hoist Any ideas? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Billing and CRM solutions
I am looking for a new, off the shelf billing and CRM solution. I am not interested in writing something custom. Im looking at Freeside, Platypus and Powercode. Ive heard that Powercode hasn't performed great for people. Any input on these three options? Have you used them and what do you like/dislike about them? Thanks Chris WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Send MONEY Now!
This is completely off topic, but stick with me a few minutes. There is a WISP tie in here. As you all know, Haiti has been hit by a devastating earthquake. Haiti is the most impoverished country in the western hemisphere - these people were already struggling to live on a daily basis. The situation there now is horribly nightmarish. Tom Fritz, the director of Connect Ohio, is treasurer of Lifeline Christian Ministries. Tom has been very supportive of the WISP industry here in Ohio. You can learn more about Lifeline's work here: http://www.lifeline.org. Lifeline has been working in Haiti for decades. They feed the hungry, provide medical care, operate schools and provide shelter for orphaned children. I spoke with Tom this morning. He said that they have been able to communicate with their staff on the ground in Haiti and things there are getting worse by the hour. He said that many of their structures are leveled. One of their orphanages is gone and they believe scores of children housed there are dead. He said that they are out of medical supplies and have been reduced to treating amputated limbs with duct tape. Bodies are piling up. They expect thousands more to die simply because they don't have medical care, food or even water. I think it's sometimes difficult for those of us here in the US to know how to help during a crisis like this. I also know that the WISP community mobilized to help those in need after Katrina. It's time for our community to do something now. I'm asking you to give $100 today to help the people of Haiti. $100. That's less than the cost of a CPE. You can afford it. Tom assured me that 100% of your donation will pass directly to their efforts in Haiti. If you have more questions you can contact Tom directly at tfr...@connectohio.org. To give your $100 now you can go here: http://www.lifeline.org/2003/html/currentList.htm If you for some reason would rather not give to Lifeline you can go here to give your $100: www.doctorswithoutborders.org www.redcross.org http://www.oxfam.org/en/emergencies Don't look away from this horrible crisis. It's only $100. Give now. Thanks, Chris Cooper Intelliwave LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Send MONEY Now!
I checked with them and they can only process credit/debit cards. They said they would be happy to take a check. Mail it here: Lifeline Christian Mission 184 Olde County Line Road Westerville, OH 43081 Thanks for caring Chris -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 11:23 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Send MONEY Now! Is there a Paypal account we can send to? Travis Microserv chris cooper wrote: This is completely off topic, but stick with me a few minutes. There is a WISP tie in here. As you all know, Haiti has been hit by a devastating earthquake. Haiti is the most impoverished country in the western hemisphere - these people were already struggling to live on a daily basis. The situation there now is horribly nightmarish. Tom Fritz, the director of Connect Ohio, is treasurer of Lifeline Christian Ministries. Tom has been very supportive of the WISP industry here in Ohio. You can learn more about Lifeline's work here: http://www.lifeline.org. Lifeline has been working in Haiti for decades. They feed the hungry, provide medical care, operate schools and provide shelter for orphaned children. I spoke with Tom this morning. He said that they have been able to communicate with their staff on the ground in Haiti and things there are getting worse by the hour. He said that many of their structures are leveled. One of their orphanages is gone and they believe scores of children housed there are dead. He said that they are out of medical supplies and have been reduced to treating amputated limbs with duct tape. Bodies are piling up. They expect thousands more to die simply because they don't have medical care, food or even water. I think it's sometimes difficult for those of us here in the US to know how to help during a crisis like this. I also know that the WISP community mobilized to help those in need after Katrina. It's time for our community to do something now. I'm asking you to give $100 today to help the people of Haiti. $100. That's less than the cost of a CPE. You can afford it. Tom assured me that 100% of your donation will pass directly to their efforts in Haiti. If you have more questions you can contact Tom directly at tfr...@connectohio.org. To give your $100 now you can go here: http://www.lifeline.org/2003/html/currentList.htm If you for some reason would rather not give to Lifeline you can go here to give your $100: www.doctorswithoutborders.org www.redcross.org http://www.oxfam.org/en/emergencies Don't look away from this horrible crisis. It's only $100. Give now. Thanks, Chris Cooper Intelliwave LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: health insurance
Another thing to consider in this scenario is negotiated fees. If you have insurance, the insurance company will negotiate a discount on the fees charged by the provider on your behalf. You pay your deductible, your insurance carrier pays the difference between your deductible contribution and the discounted amount. Most carriers will have pre-negotiated discounts in place with the providers. The providers try to get the costs up to factor in the discounts. In the case below, the discount could get the ultimate cost pretty close to the cash price. If this was a Medicaid case, the actual payment to the provider would be $1000 less than the cash price of $15,000. Medicaid has @ a 65% discount. You pay the insurance company a premium. Out of that premium the insurance company does three things - takes profit, pays claims and pays its administrative costs. Here are the rough numbers for the three silos: Profit 3% Overhead11% Claims 86% There isn't a whole lot of room to shift allocation on the first two items. The biggest column to move is the $.86 of every dollar that gets paid out in claims. The only way to do that is to use less services or be smarter about the ones you do use. The best way to do that is to be well. Live a healthier lifestyle = less sickness. You might be able to reduce your premiums if you promote wellness within your employees just because they will go to the doctor less. Incent them to stop smoking, loose weight, exercise etc. Share some of the savings you realize in premium dollars with them through deductible rebate, wellness program expenses etc. A healthier group will have lower premiums. It pays to have your group healthy. Our medical system is set up to treat and not prevent disease. As a nation we eat quarter pounders and drink quarts of soda. This causes heart disease. When you get heart disease, you go to the doctor, he puts you on meds and sends you to the cardiac care unit to get a cardiac procedure done. This generates big dollars for the drug company and big dollars for the hospital performing the procedure. We all could save the system, and therefore ourselves, billions just by avoiding this scenario. Chris I believe it is the doctors/hospitals causing the issues with high insurance. Here as a good example... True Story: I have two friends that have children that needed/had the same operation. Friend 1 had insurance, Friend 2 did not. They went to the same doctors and same hospitals. Friend 1 with insurance was charged around $40,000 total for the child's surgery. Friend 2, that did not have insurance, told them up front, and the cost was around $15,000 total. There were no complications in either case. I also made a trip to the emergency room a few years ago. I was charged $10 for 1 Tylenol. So something smells awful fishy here. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 23:17:43 -0600 The answer to your first question is our government currently limits where insurance companies can offer their coverage. Open up the entire country to all health insurance companies and you'll see competition increase and prices decrease. This is economics 101, but our elected officials can't seem to get their arms around it...or simply choose not to. Your second question/point is correct. Creating a government option will discourage competition resulting in a single payer system. With a single payer system it is my opinion the cost will go up and the services provided will go down. Without competition I see this as the only outcome. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul C Diem Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 11:05 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance Correcting the waste is the exact opposite of what a government funded program will do. Honestly, I don't pay too much attention to the news anymore because is gets me too po'ed. Can someone answer a couple basic question I have about this: 1. If the high cost of health care insurance is being caused by the insurance company executives raking in loads of money, why hasn't free enterprises created competition. If all the insurance company A is averaging a profit of $100 billion/year, wouldn't free enterprise generate a competitor that decided to charge 25% lower premiums and still make a great $75 billion/year? 2. I keep hearing that the idea of a federal government sponsored health care insurance program is to create competition in the insurance industry. How can tax dollar funded anything be considered true competition to free enterprises in any industry? Paul C Diem pcd...@foxvalley.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent:
Re: [WISPA] Ligowave 24ghz Backhaul Radio
How much are the Apex units? Chris -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 2:56 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ligowave 24ghz Backhaul Radio I've never seen the Ligo 24Ghz radios...just based my OFDM comment on what Matt said in his initial post: The software and management interface is very comprehensive and has some interesting features in it, including a constellation feature that gives an approximation of what the OFDM signals look like. So, if the radio set isn't OFDM then why does it have OFDM statistics? Did you also pay $8k for a 85-98Mbps radio set? Still seems really high when compared to Trango Apex that can produce 100Mbps to nearly 400Mbps for not much more money. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:42 PM To: WISPA General List; bcl...@spectraaccess.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ligowave 24ghz Backhaul Radio its not OFDM, its true microwave FDX I concur -65 at 3 miles it's a stretch for 24 ghz We have a Pair of this units we bought directly from the Manufacturer, It's a great unit, mount its not that bad. Ours is going half mile. 98 Mbps Fdx Radio is limited due to FE port only, GE is out Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 3:26 PM To: bcl...@spectraaccess.com; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ligowave 24ghz Backhaul Radio I can tell you that in our neck of the woods a -65 at 3miles using 24GHz wouldn't last long! $8K! Really? Sounds awful high for an 85Mbps OFDM radio set... Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bret Clark Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ligowave 24ghz Backhaul Radio Has it run through heavy rain yet, wonder how much rain affectst the attenuation. On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 12:01 -0700, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: Just installed a Ligowave 24ghz unlicensed backhaul radio to take the place of a 100meg fiber loop. We are going 2.97 miles with the 2' dishes. -65 signal on both sides and it has tested out at 85meg of capacity in both directions. Very happy with it so far. The software and management interface is very comprehensive and has some interesting features in it, including a constellation feature that gives an approximation of what the OFDM signals look like. This unit has the ability to use a voltmeter for the signal strength peaking, and my climber highly recommends using that instead of trying to call out signal strengths. That made it a lot easier to peak in. Climber also says that the mounting hardware looks great, but is actually pretty crappy when it is on the tower. It is not very fine-grained in its adjustment capabilities - at least that is the politically correct way to put it. The complete link was in the $8000 neighborhood. The fiber link was costing $500/month, so it won't take very long for this to pay for itself. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors
If you call John at superpass he may be willing to build one custom for you. Chris -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eric Rogers Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:47 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors That is almost exactly what I want... Do they make it polar opposite? Like 2.4 V and 5.8 H? Eric -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:26 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors http://www.superpass.com/SPD-GSH4T-J6T.html#V_plane -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eric Rogers Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 5:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors Has anyone used any 2.4/5.8 Dual Band Sectors? Does anyone know of any that are 120*? I have found some that are 90. Thanks, Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.424 / Virus Database: 270.14.47/2478 - Release Date: 11/03/09 07:36:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] WTB
Looking for a CCU 3100. If you have one to sell, please hit me off list. Thanks Chris Cooper WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] choice of upstreams
Right. MCI billing was a nightmare. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marco Coelho Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 12:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] choice of upstreams Hold that... UUNET, not MCI On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com wrote: Worldcom was the worst for billing issues. MCI was the bomb before they were assimilated. On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: AboveNET will layout the exact path your fiber feed will be for you. Just make sure you're secondary path is completely diverse from whatever you choose as your primary. My suggestion would be to go with AboveNET or Level3 as your primary and use Cogent as your secondary. We haven't had any billing issues with any of our upstream providers that wasn't easily straightened out. Maybe we've just been lucky or maybe we just review our agreements more closely and haven't allowed for any chance of discrepancies. As they say...YMMV! Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marco Coelho Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] choice of upstreams Our situation is thus: We are leasing a 45 Mile1 Gig fiber link from Greenville TX to 2323 Bryan ST. in Dallas (carrier hotel). My primary need is quality bandwidth. This will become my preferred route to the world. Secondary requirement is a company I won't have to spend 1 year working to get the billing correct. I am installing a 1 Gig (800M/800M) licensed PTP link from my NOC to another lit building in Richardson TX for path diversity. The choice of carriers here will be more limited. With Abovenet being one of the primary choices. I do not want this connection to go to the same carrier as the other connection. It's really kind of funny I was just a few years ago (12) when bonded 6 T's together and thought I had all the bandwidth in the world! Now I'll have and additional 2G at my NOC for less than I was paying for the 6 Ts. Marco WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Simultaneous connections
At 500k per user I would cap users at 50 on that single AP. 35 would be better. Chris Cooper Intelliwave -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Al Stewart Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 11:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Simultaneous connections Using a 900 AP (like Trango) theoretically allows up to 3000 (3.0 meg) bandwidth. But there has to be a limit on how many simultaneous connections can go through the AP and maintain bandwidth. At what point -- how many using/downloading etc at the same time -- would the bandwidth be reduced by usage to below 500 (.5 meg) or lower? There has to, logically, be some kind of limit to what the pipe will hande. We're trying to evaluate our user to AP ratio in real life. Al WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Barriers to WISP growth
Having spent some time in some rugged spots in the world I can say by comparison that Im happy with some things the government does. Clean, potable water is nice as are decent roads, fire protection and lack of Malaria. It aint all bad. Chris -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Vander Dussen Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 3:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barriers to WISP growth Well said! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:56 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barriers to WISP growth Seriously? Name one thing the government has done right in the last 200 years. The list should start and end with the military and that can be argued either way. The only thing the government could do to help is to not do anything at all. Josh Luthman WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Cedarville Oh?
Customer looking for service in Cedarville/Clifton area in Ohio. Let me know if you can hit it. Chris Cooper Intelliwave WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] license for amplifier?
Correct. Not unless the amp is certified with your radio system. Chris -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] license for amplifier? So, you cant legally make up for cable loss with an amp? -RickG On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: Unlicensed freqs don't require a license however you can not legally add an amplifier to a system (in this case, your 5 GHz backhaul) that was not originally certified with the amplifier that you want to use. Hams, who are licensed and who share some frequencies with unlicensed operators do not need an additional license to legally use an amplifier. To avoid mis-use and illegal use of ham amplifiers by unlicensed operators, legitimate sellers of ham amplifiers (and indeed, any amplifier) normally request that you show proof that you are a ham in order to purchase an amplifier. Unfortunately for our industry: 1. 95% of the WISPs who use external amplifiers are doing so illegally. 2. 95% of the companies who sell external amplifiers to WISPs are skating on thin ice. RickG wrote: I am planning to install a 5Ghz backhaul from my main tower to a remote. It will have the antenna on the top, 150' of LMR-400 and the radio at the bottom. To make up for the loss, I ordered a 500mw amp from L-Com. Unfortunately, they cancelled the order saying I need a HAM license to purchase it. I thought unlicensed freqs dont require a license? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Til Tek Dual Pol
Has anyone ever used the Til Tek dual pol 900 mhz sectors for simultaneous broadcasting ie., 1 radio on H one radio on V pol? Thanks Chris Cooper Intelliwave LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] NTIA Announces 2,200 Applications for BIP/BTOP
It looks like stiff competition, especially at BTOP. 1230 rural applications. I would guess that a good portion of the 830 applications seeking joint evaluation are not willing to shoulder an RUS loan but are instead seeking more grants than they can get at BIP. Chris -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of St. Louis Broadband Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:39 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] NTIA Announces 2,200 Applications for BIP/BTOP NTIA Announces 2,200 Applications for BIP/BTOP for a total of $27.6 Billion dollars http://broadbandcensus.com/2009/08/2200-broadband-stimulus-applications-seek -seven-times-more-funds-than-available/ Victoria Proffer - President/CEO StLouisBroadband.com http://stlbroadband.com/ ShowMeBroadband.com http://showmebroadband.com/ Rural Missouri Wireless Project. 314.974.5600 * Fax 573.747.4756 Follow us on Twitter.com @stlbroadband SBA Certified WOSB File: ATT00056.txt OLE Object: Picture (Device Independent Bitmap) attachment: winmail.dat WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] EUM 3004/3005
Im looking to pick up some waverider eum. 3004/3005 only. Hit me offlist if you have any to sell. Thanks Chris Cooper Intelliwave LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] We've got Cash for Clunkers - how about Dollarsfor Dialup
Money for masochists. If you wrote an application you know what I mean. My suggestion for Phase II of the Broadband Stimulus Program: http://tinyurl.com/kmd4hn Other potential program titles: Money for Modems? Bucks for Broadband? Wampum for Wireless? Any other ideas? Matt Larsen vistabeam.com / WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation
I concur with Kurt. That meter is invaluable. They also make a quad band meter that covers 900 Mhz as well. Chris Cooper Intelliwave -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:38 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation I have been using this meter, http://www.streakwave.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=PM%2D2458eq=Tp= It checks forward power, reflected power, and will give you the SWR reading. Its been a lifesaver. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Waskom Texas
Anybody have service there? Please hit me offlist. Thanks Chris WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 700 Mhz license area
How large a geographic area is granted under a single 700 mhz license? The area in question is a non-metro market if that makes any difference. Thanks Chris Cooper WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] WR CCU3100
Anyone have one to sell? Hit me offlist. Thanks Chris Cooper Intelliwave WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] NTIA mapping
There is a $350 million mapping component set aside under BTOP. Will this funding be available in smaller chunks to successful grantees to map their expanded networks? Will it be available to all wisps to map their existing networks in an effort to add to the overall national BB map? Chris Cooper Intelliwave WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] fiber termination
Does anybody have an idea how much I should expect to pay per termination to terminate 5 strands of multimode fiber? The fiber is already pulled into the racks, someone would just need to terminate the ends. Thanks Chris Cooper WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment
We use Hartford. They've been great. Decent deductible, they pay claims without complaint, no premium increase. Chris Intelliwave Scottie Arnett wrote: They provide insurance at a rate for what you want covered. You pay less for a high deductable. In both cases, they will try everything they can to get out of paying you, and when they finally have to pay, they cancel the policy. So what was the use in getting the policy to begin with? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] cellular RF
We are looking at co-lo on a structure that is also home to a cellular array. Tower owners say there is not enough RF power emitted from the cell antennas to warrant turning them down to climb past them. Antennas are on frames, so we would be climbing underneath and behind them on our way through. Any reason to be concerned? What is the eirp on a cell antenna anyway? Thanks Chris WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DMS Wireless Antennas
Has anyone ever used the DMS 900 Mhz 180deg sectors? Good/Bad? Chris Cooper Intelliwave LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] satellite masts
Anybody have a good source for cheap dss mounts/satellite masts? Thanks Chris Cooper Intelliwave LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 2.4ghz wattmeter
Get the Praxsym quad band meter if you do 900, 2.4 and 5Ghz Chris Cooper Intelliwave -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 8:43 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2.4ghz wattmeter Kurt, Forget the Bird. We banged our heads too much with those. besides they are too bulky and not really for microwave IMHO. Bet one of these: http://www.praxsym.com/t-meter.htm We have two and they save us a poop load of troubleshooting time. They are about $1k each but they are well worth it. Bob Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Does anyone have any experience with a Bird 43 wattmeter at 2.4ghz? I have the bird 43 and am considering buying the 1 watt slug for it. This thing is going to measure the average power instead of the peak power. Should the Bird 43P (peak and avg) wattmeter be better suited for this application since it can measure the peak wattage? I just don't know what I need to be measuring in the WIFI application, the peak or average??? http://birdtechnologies.thomasnet.com/viewitems/wattmeters-and-line-sect ions /portable-wattmeters? http://birdtechnologies.thomasnet.com/viewitems/wattmeters-and-line-sec tion s/portable-wattmeters?forward=1 forward=1 Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Ohio WISPS
If you are operating in one of the 29 Appalachian counties or operate in Pickaway, Fairfield, Knox or Licking counties and are interested in a possible collaborative opportunity involving stimulus funding, please hit me off list. Thanks Chris Cooper Intelliwave LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday
Scary? Care to expand upon that for those of us not in attendance? Chris -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Lists Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday Not me, this is getting a bit scary. V -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday I'm going to fall asleep watching this... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:24 AM To: legislat...@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/video.html come join me. marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video streamforthentiameetingstoday
Does anyone have a link to any other transcript copies other than what's available at NTIA? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Denise Hamilton Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 4:22 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video streamforthentiameetingstoday John, Sasha did not go on a rant per say but would make a disparaging remark with his other comments. When I mentioned that a good matrix to start for the prerequisites on getting an grant application submitted would be submittal of the 477 form he mentioned how all of that data is not very good anyway. And when the government was mentioning how we need to work within the government to get anywhere he mentioned how the government is not helpful in working together. There are other examples and I am just paraphrasing but please look at the transcripts and let me know if you think I am off base here. ~ Denise Hamilton Rapid Systems 813-232-4887 x 101 Fax 813-236-0014 den...@rapidsys.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 4:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream forthentiameetingstoday On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Denise Hamilton den...@rapidsys.com wrote: Coming across complaining about lawsuits, the local governments, the telcos, etc. is not a good way, in my humble opinion, to come across and successfully make policy in what we should be doing to make rules for grants. I trust when WISPA represents us on Thursday we come across better then the New America Foundation. Sorry but we never like to hire people that only complained about their last employer... Can you provide more detail about the complaining you are referencing above. I did not see it. I was at the doctor earlier today and missed it all. :-( Scriv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] NTIA Meetings on Economic Stimulus Package
Who is in charge of drafting position statements for presentation to NTIA? Legislative subcommittee? Chris -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:41 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] NTIA Meetings on Economic Stimulus Package Thank you for posting this Kevin. WISPA has already been in contact with NTIA and is in the process of setting up a meeting during this period. Thanks, Rick From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Suitor Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:32 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] NTIA Meetings on Economic Stimulus Package Folks, Thought you would all like heads up on the attached. The attached notice is scheduled to be published by NTIA in the Federal Register tomorrow, alerting those interested in the ARRA grant program that they can commence scheduling meetings with NTIA staff to be held starting on March 2, 2009. Best Regards, Kevin redline biz card header Redline Communications Inc. Kevin Suitor Vice President, Marketing Business Development 302 Town Centre Blvd. Markham, ON L3R 0E8 CANADA Cell: +1 416.508.1252 Phone: +1 905.948.2299 Skype: ksuitor Fax: +1 647.723.0451 e-mail: ksui...@redlinecommunications.com Web: http://www.redlinecommunications.com/ www.redlinecommunications.com Advancing Broadband Wireless - Putting WiMAX in Motion WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Sarcasm Alert] Yippee! Sprint owns the NTIA
I think that everyone that has a rep on the telecom subcommittee of Commerce committee should contact them to voice concern. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 10:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Sarcasm Alert] Yippee! Sprint owns the NTIA I was going to suggest that clear wire would be the biggest winner in this stimulus package. But I didn't want to throw a wet towel at anyone. We still have to take a shot at it and get something. John Scrivner wrote: Does anyone know the stock symbol for the company that makes KY Jelly? I think that is where I will be moving my portfolio to. I'll just go ahead now and predict that Sprint / Clearwire end up with a minimum of $3B, likely more. TODAY'S SPOTLIGHT... Former Sprint exec tapped as NTIA deputy director The Obama administration has named a former Sprint Nextel executive, Anna Gomez, to serve as deputy director of the National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA), which will handle as much as $6.65 billion in new stimulus wireless and broadband grants that will be available to Sprint and its competitors. Gomez, former vice president of government affairs with Sprint, is currently acting director of NTIA, which influences the president's telecom policy within the Commerce Department. NTIA spokesman Bart Forbes said in an interview with the Wall Street Journal that Gomez understands that the public has every right to be concerned about her role in a potential broadband grant program, because of her history with Sprint. She is discussing this with the ethics office and will look to remove herself from the decision-making process for grant applications where appropriate, he said. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
I like F-150s, 4WD, extended cab, HDU on the back with ladder rack. That should get you to any tower site, hold up to a 40' extension ladder, provide secure storage for all your tools and supplies and get decent milage. C We have not made a move on a new vehicle yet so any other suggestions that exist are more then welcome! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] National WISP Map Graphic - Over half a millionsquaremiles covered!
And/or how many doorsteps actually have coverage. Chris And I REALLY want to know how many homes are passed by those circles! Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Bullet 2
Does anybody know of a vendor that has any bullet2 available to ship now? Thanks Chris Cooper Intelliwave WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Rohn 55 pics
Does anyone have any pics of a guyed Rohn 55g with some parabolics on it? I need some pictures to help some folks visualize a tower. If you can help, hit me offlist. Thanks in advance, Chris Cooper Intelliwave WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] MDU access point selection
Hi- Im looking for robust, outdoor APs for a high density MDU application. Im intrigued by the Ruckus Zoneflex product for it's adaptive antenna arrays and possible noise management values. We've deployed MT APs under similar situations in the past. They work, but noise can be a challenge as the pop. Density of the MDU climbs. If you've used ruckus, do you like em? Hate em? Or, if you have another product recommendation Id like to hear that as well. Happy New Year Chris Cooper Intelliwave LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow
And your chainsaws- going to need to cut some mighty big holes in the air to fit all the needed spectrum into Chris That article states they want to define broadband as 5Mbps, and some folks suggest 10Mbps. Get your forklifts ready! David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] concrete cure period
Does anybody know how long I should plan for concrete cure prior to tower construction? Base is 3x3x8', tower is 150' rohn 65 Thanks, Chris WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Corinex BPL
Has anyone deployed Corinex's BPL solution in a MDU setting? Any experiences good/bad you care to share? Thanks Chris Cooper Intelliwave LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] tower erection question
Ok, pretty general question I know, but does anyone have a ball park figure for erection of a 300' Rohn 65G - earthwork, steel and construction? Thanks Chris WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Interference at the neighbors
If the noise is from a consumer electronic device, you could offer to buy them a non-interfering replacement. This has always worked for us. Most people are decent and want to help out a neighbor. Chris Cooper Intelliwave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Nix Jr. Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:00 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Interference at the neighbors Just curious, how are you dealing with interference that comes from the neighbor of an existing or potential customer, i.e. you survey a potential's house and see noise level -58 on 900su (rssi being -76) anyway the noise seems to be coming from a neighbor (non-customer) how do you approach the situation? This seems to be an increasing problem for us in the 900mhz __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Taxes
Depends upon the state in which services are rendered. C -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 10:49 AM To: WISPA List Subject: [WISPA] Taxes Are wireless Internet or VoIP services taxable? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Til-tek
We've been very happy with our Til-tek antennas. Chris Cooper Intelliwave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 10:00 AM To: WISPA List Subject: [WISPA] Til-tek How good are Til-tek antennas? When I've been searching for that MTI antenna, vendors keep pushing me to Til-tek. I love my MTI and I wasn't happy with the PW sectors. Thoughts? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Running Fiber
You might be able to rent one of the pneumatic boring rigs at your local tool rental outlet. For shorter runs, you can also use a backhoe - Dig a trench on either side of the road/sidewalk and then use the hoe to push sections of rigid underneath the pavement. You just thread on another section to the tail end of the previous section if you go over 10'. We've done that to push conduit up to 30'. Chris Cooper Intelliwave LLC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 9:25 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Running Fiber Directional bore rig. You should be able to find a utility contractor who has one. Pricing here in NY is about $10 foot which icludes the bore and placement of 1 1/2 HDPE pipe. Gotta be cheaper by you but still a lot of money Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 01:41:41 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Running Fiber Ikes, sorry for hijacking the last thread and forgetting to change the subject! -=-=-=-= Hello, If one was wanting to run fiber in an already developed neighborhood, the obvious obstacles are existing concrete roads, drives and sidewalks. What are your options for getting around this other than destroying and fixing which is not an option? Is there a technology that would allow you to drive conduit underneath concrete drives and such? Michiana Wireless, Inc. John Buwa, President http://WWW.MichianaWireless.Com 574-233-7170 Lose the wires, discover the speed, enjoy the freedom! *US Distributor for www.itelite.net Antennas* -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] does water ruin antennas? Antennas a cheap these days. When in doubt, toss it out. I replace everything, radio included, all of the time now. Started doing that a couple of years ago, man has my life gotten better and my work load lighter! marlon - Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 10:56 AM Subject: [WISPA] does water ruin antennas? So, if I have a suspect antenna that might have got water in it, is it ruined, or can it dry out, be resealed and work just fine? Specifically, I have a couple omni's from sites that seemed to be under powered. The culprit could have been the radio card, pigtail, cable or omni, I don't know. I replaced it all. The reason I ask about the omni is because way back a few years ago I got paranoid after I have some water issues. A couple of these omni's I put too much tape and mastic on the bottom by the connector. I wrapped it up too high and thick and covered the weep holes in the bottom of the omni. So maybe I got condensation, or water in there if it could not leak out So if an omni like that got wet, will it dry and be ok? What about a dipole on a grid? Brian - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] 900 MHz Horizontal Omni Recommendation
We've had very good luck with the MTI. Chris Cooper Intelliwave LLC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Seaman Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 2:34 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] 900 MHz Horizontal Omni Recommendation Anyone here have specific recommendations for good 900 MHz Horizontal Omni antennas? Thanks, John WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] buzzard attenuation?
We noticed some fairly significant packet loss on CPE associated with one particular 900 Mhz cell this morning. We went to several client locations to trouble shoot. Everything, except the packet loss, looked good. When we went out to the cell site we found a few very large buzzards parked on our antenna. Im not sure how to calculate the attenuation of a buzzard, but when we were able to persuade them to leave all the packet loss cleared up. This is definitely a first for us. Do anti-roost strips deter them? Chris Cooper Intelliwave LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP
I think it's very important to remember the cost of the CPE in this equation. The CPE will be the primary driver in your ROI. If you can spread the fixed cost of the AP over a large number of subs, obviously the cost to add a user declines each time you add another sub. However, if the CPE cost is overly burdensome, costs to add subs can greatly inhibit your growth from a cash management perspective. chris WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Trango 900 SU
Does anybody have any pricing on Trango 900 SU 10 pk? Thanks Chris Cooper Intelliwave LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP
Id have to say that the current landscape makes the oil investors look pretty sharp as well. I know the roughnecks around here poured some serious money into those holes they punched in the ground. I think they are pumping plenty of dollars back out now. chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3 Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 5:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP Hmmm, didn't realize flipping houses was an ethical gray area... (gosh, buy a distressed property, gut and redo the kitchen and bathroom, give it some landscaping- and make some dough. That is unethical? You know some of the original colonies of the new world had rules against charging interest and making a profit. They were not too successful. Adam Smith had some things to say about the subject.) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP I know that a certain number of us ARE going to build a network for the sole purpose of suckering...errr, selling it to someone else. Now, I have severe ethical disagreements with this notion. It reminds me of flipping houses or speculative oil investing, perhaps? Now, to build a business SOLELY for the purpose of selling for a huge chunk of money to someone larger, of planned consolidation seems self-defeating. yes, you might profit, but wha have you really done productively? Still, there are many of us who are NOT intending to build to sell. We're not in the business of flipping customers to someone else. In that case, overspending for the return on your dollar makes little sense. I'm not sure if ANY hardware platform makes sense in this industry. If we run the numbers, does it actually havea positive return? I suspect not. Still, for those of us who aer NOT in the business of polishing up a turd to sell to someone else ( You have no idea how long I've waited to use that term, since I read it a few years ago!), the investment and prices don't make any real sense... insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: David Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 6:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP A number of WISPS are moving to this platform as they find that the higher end equipment is worth more on a buyout. Lets put it this way. If you have a network to sell, how much more do you think you will get if you have Cisco instead of Mikrotik? Nothing against them, but the quality of your infrastructure is heavily weighed during a buyout. If you don't agree, check the many spam's on this and other lists from the guys buying networks. Some won't even look at you if you don't have Canopy or better equipment. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Employee Incentives
We pay our customer svc. Employees a spiff on each sale they close. Our resi marketing efforts are designed to drive calls to our CSR staff. We want our staff to have a real incentive to convert those calls into sales. This also gives them an incentive to follow up with people who call in but don't commit to buy on the first contact. When call volume is low, they pick up the sales tickets that are still open and give those people a call back just to follow up and give them another opportunity to buy. We can have the coolest technology in the world, but if we don't sell services we don't grow our business. Chris Intelliwave LLC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cameron Kilton Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 1:14 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Employee Incentives Does anybody out there practice this method of encouragement? If so, what are some of the ways you reward your staff? Examples: Installs per week, how many accounts you sold in a month, attendance, etc.. Thanks, Cameron Midcoast Internet WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] encolsures
Anybody know of a good source of NEMA 4+ enclosures at least 24x30? Thanks Chris Cooper Intelliwave WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble
We went through a water tower rehab. It took at least a month to blast and paint inside and out. We were able to work with the contractor to shroud our gear when they were working near it. Any chances you could work with them to detach and reattach gear as they work around the tank? The contractor we worked with wasn't concerned with RF, but just wanted to make sure that they had cleaned and repainted every square inch of tower. If you can work it out to stay on there, this is a great time to do any welding you need. Good luck Chris Cooper Intelliwave WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Future
To follow up on the quote below- You'll have ups downs, but don't listen to the fear inside your head. I would listen very closely to the fear inside your head. Don't let it paralyze you, but listen to it. Fear is a great motivator and often prevents us from doing some very foolish things. I once saw Pat Parelli, the great horse trainer, lead an absolutely wild horse into a closed corral with him. Horses are big, dangerous animals that can easily kill you if you make a mistake. As the horse stormed around him he said Do I have butterflies in my stomach? You better believe I have butterflies in my stomach. The difference between me and the average guy is that I've taught my butterflies to fly in formation. Most entrepreneurs Ive met are driven by the fear of lack of success, not necessarily the fear of failure (the two are different)or the fear of loss of capital. You just have to focus that fear and push ahead. chris - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 5:44 PM Subject: [WISPA] Future What do you see as the future of our industry over the next 5 years? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] tower lighting
Does anyone know if there is a process/procedure at the commission that citizens can engage to get a tower owner to change their lighting? There is a new cell tower in my area (rural) that has white strobes that is impacting the viewshed in the area. I know that the owner can amend their EA, but that's about it. The neighbors are asking me what can be done and I honestly don't know. Any pointers much appreciated. Thanks Chris WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Open Range
Anybody familiar with this? http://www.usda.gov/wps/portal/!ut/p/_s.7_0_A/7_0_1OB?contentidonly=true http://www.usda.gov/wps/portal/!ut/p/_s.7_0_A/7_0_1OB?contentidonly=tru econtentid=2008/03/0086.xml contentid=2008/03/0086.xml Chris Cooper Intelliwave LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Australian WiMAX pioneertrashestechnologyasmiserablefailure
So that is roughly 10 square miles per cell for rural deployment? Seems like a pretty tough sell in rural markets with low pop. Densities. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Booher Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 3:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Australian WiMAX pioneertrashestechnologyasmiserablefailure I would agree. In a dense urban enviorment the usual cell size for a 3.65ghz wimax deployment is a 1km/ cell. Suburban, 2km cell, and rural, 3km cell. Obviously once you get below 3ghz the propogation gets better. It really doesnt get any better until you are talking 2ghz or lower. Of course, then once you get below 1ghz you have issues with surface refactivity and self induced interference limiting the CINR. - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] waverider power supplies
Im looking for some power supplies for WR eum 3003 and 3004. If you know where I can find some hit me offlist. Thanks Chris Cooper Intelliwave WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FW: INNOVATION - The Square Watermelon
Square Watermelons? What about square pumpkins? Think of the Jack O' Lantern possibilities. If the average American family is 3.14 people, that same family need only buy one pumpkin and everybody gets to carve their own side. That's it - this year Im plowing up all my towers and planting square pumpkins... c WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Some days I don't seem to know anything.
John- It sounds like you might have noise impacting the local AP on channels 1-6. Is the power and receive sensitivity the same on your laptop vs. the customer PC? That might be the reason you are seeing the difference in performance between the two. Did you run netstumbler or otherwise look at the spectrum? Any chances of a local interferer in the house or garage? chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. Vogel Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 9:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Some days I don't seem to know anything. Is it possible for interference to prevent a signal from showing up in a site survey in Windows Zero Configuration utility? I set up a relay AP at a home yesterday, the AP being on the roof of the garage (couldn't get a link to my tower from the house). The wireless card I put in the customers computer would not connect to (usually would not even see) the AP, although it would find APs in other homes 1/2 mile away at times. My laptop, sitting on the desk next to the computer, connected immediately, with great signal strength. BUT, if I changed the channel to either 9, 10, or 11, then the desktop unit would connect, also with great signal strength. I changed out the radio on the garage, changed the PCI wireless card in the desktop, antennas, everything, but as long as the AP was on channel 8 or lower, the desktop would usually not find it, and when it did, the RSSI was very low. My laptop however, did not have any problems connecting no matter what channel the AP was on, with excellent RSSI reported on all channels. Is there an explanation for what I was seeing? -- John Vogel - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vogent.net 620-754-3907 Vogel Enterprises LLC Information Services Provider serving S.E. Kansas WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Sheilded Cat5
We usually use Belden 7919a for tower applications. It's good cable and has served us well. It is however a little pricey. Can anyone else recommend a good, shielded exterior grade cable for vertical work that is less than $325/spool? Thanks Chris WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] satellite mounts
Can anybody point me to a good source for cheap satellite masts/j mounts? Thanks Chris Cooper Intelliwave WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] MTI 900 180 deg
Has anybody had any luck using the 900 mhz 180 deg. Antennas from MTI? Thanks Chris WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] KGI
Anybody leasing from KGI? What should I expect - good, bad, give up my right arm etc? Thanks chris WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] CSR live chat?
Hi- Is anybody using live chat as part of their customer support offering? If so, has it worked well? What app has worked well? Thanks Chris WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
