Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting

[Mike Hammett via Wireless]

and to be reflected on 477, I believe you need to be the one billing for it. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

- Original Message -

From: "Claude Aiken via Wireless"  
To: "James Wilson" , "WISPA General List" 
 
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 9:07:57 PM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting 

As long as it is phone service that reaches NANP numbers including X11 numbers, 
it counts as long as it is offered by YOUR company. Can be white label. 


Yes, has to be reflected on 477. 


We did a webinar last week on this topic, hope to post for members soon. 






 Original message  
From: James Wilson via Wireless  
Date: 7/21/19 9:55 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: WISPA General List  
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting 



Is there some information about what is considered phone service? 


Can we just offer something like Ooma? Does this phone service need to be 
reflected in FCC 477? 


Is there a place to go for further information? 


Thanks! 


On Fri, Jul 12, 2019, 8:52 AM Mark Radabaugh via Wireless < wireless@wispa.org 
> wrote: 




There are two upcoming items on the FCC’s August 1st meeting on items that will 
effect all WISP’s. Please review the documents below. 


Short summary: 


477 Order - will revamp the 477 data collection process and information. 
Personally this is a good thing. 


RDOF - This is the next $20,400,000,000 (20.4 Billion Dollars) that will be 
spend to overbuild your network if you are not currently providing 25/3 service 
& phone. 


WISPA has time to meet with the commissioners and discuss up to the 25th. A lot 
of effort has already gone into making sure that both of these are fair and 
open to all providers, not just the Telco’s. There is no way to stop the feds 
from spending this money - it’s coming regardless of what we do. Both political 
parties, the administration, and the FCC all want to spend money on rural 
broadband. 


YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR PART to either position yourself to receive this funding, 
or prevent your competitors from getting it and overbuilding you. 


Mark 



Mark Radabaugh 
WISPA Policy Committee Chair 
419-261-5996 




Begin forwarded message: 

From: "Coran, Steve via PolicyCommittee" < policycommit...@wispa.org > 

Subject: [PolicyCommittee] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting 

Date: July 11, 2019 at 5:48:29 PM EDT 

To: "' policycommit...@wispa.org '" < policycommit...@wispa.org > 

Reply-To: "Coran, Steve" < sco...@lermansenter.com >, < 
policycommit...@wispa.org > 



Just released, below are links to draft items of interest for the FCC’s August 
1 open meeting. We have the opportunity to meet with the Commissioners until 
the afternoon of July 25. Would appreciate the Committee’s input on these soon. 
Just released, and I have not had a chance to review these yet. 

DRAFT Form 477 Order + FNPRM: 
https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-358433A1.pdf 
DRAFT RDOF NPRM: https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-358432A1.pdf 

Stephen E. Coran 
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Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting

[James Wilson via Wireless]

Thanks everyone for the advice, hopefully, this discussion helps others.  I
didn't know about the phone requirement until the GSO webinar last week.

While some interactivity is good, webinars are a bit time consuming for us
because we're in the field most of the day.

Are there any online documents that anyone could be pointed to for an
overview?

If we're going to do this I want to be sure that we're meeting all of the
requirements...

On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 8:48 AM Keefe John via Wireless 
wrote:

> Also check out Vitelity and Bandwidth.
>
> Keefe
>
> On Mon, Jul 22, 2019, 7:40 AM Claude Aiken via Wireless <
> wireless@wispa.org> wrote:
>
>> Wise man…
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Mark Radabaugh 
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 22, 2019 8:39 AM
>> *To:* Claude Aiken ; WISPA General List <
>> wireless@wispa.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting
>>
>>
>>
>> I just don’t put my phone number on the post :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 22, 2019, at 8:35 AM, Claude Aiken via Wireless <
>> wireless@wispa.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> There are a number of WISPA vendor members who offer white-label VoIP
>> service. I won’t list them here because inevitably I’ll leave someone off
>> and I’ll get an angry phone call!
>>
>>
>>
>> I discussed this in the most recent ISP Radio in the latter half of the
>> show, and it was item #6 on the top 10 list on our most recent webinar.
>>
>>
>>
>> We didn’t offer a webinar particularly on phone, but if there is enough
>> interest we may want to take a look at it.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* James Wilson 
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 22, 2019 8:15 AM
>> *To:* Claude Aiken 
>> *Cc:* t...@cherrycapitalconnection.com; WISPA General List <
>> wireless@wispa.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting
>>
>>
>>
>>   We attended the Government Subsidized Overbuilding webinar but didn't
>> hear anything about a phone service seminar.
>>
>>
>>
>>   For anyone else that is trying to keep up:
>>
>>
>>
>>   NANP is this:
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Numbering_Plan
>>
>>
>>
>>   N11 is this:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N11_code
>>
>>
>>
>>   I think that Ooma was offering this a year or two ago at WISPA in
>> Memphis.  We'll check on it.
>>
>>
>>
>>   Please let us know if there are others that may be better.  We're not
>> exactly in the phone business and just recommend to our customers to use a
>> smartphone with WiFi calling.  But it looks like we're going to have to
>> offer phone service not to get further overbuilt on!
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
>>
>> -James Wilson
>>
>>
>>
>> RidgeComms
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 7:52 AM Claude Aiken  wrote:
>>
>> Yes, N11.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* t...@cherrycapitalconnection.com 
>>
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 22, 2019 7:51 AM
>> *To:* Claude Aiken ; 'WISPA General List' <
>> wireless@wispa.org>; 'James Wilson' 
>> *Subject:* RE: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting
>>
>>
>>
>> Claude X11 or should the reference be N11
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org  *On
>> Behalf Of *Claude Aiken via Wireless
>> *Sent:* Sunday, July 21, 2019 10:08 PM
>> *To:* James Wilson ; WISPA General List <
>> wireless@wispa.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting
>>
>>
>>
>> As long as it is phone service that reaches NANP numbers including X11
>> numbers, it counts as long as it is offered by YOUR company. Can be white
>> label.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, has to be reflected on 477.
>>
>>
>>
>> We did a webinar last week on this topic, hope to post for members soon.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Original message 
>>
>> From: James Wilson via Wireless 
>>
>> Date: 7/21/19 9:55 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>
>> To: WISPA General List 
>>
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting
>>
>>
>>
>> Is there some information about what is considered phone service?
>>
>>
>>
>> Can we just offer something like Ooma? 

Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting

[Keefe John via Wireless]

Also check out Vitelity and Bandwidth.

Keefe

On Mon, Jul 22, 2019, 7:40 AM Claude Aiken via Wireless 
wrote:

> Wise man…
>
>
>
> *From:* Mark Radabaugh 
> *Sent:* Monday, July 22, 2019 8:39 AM
> *To:* Claude Aiken ; WISPA General List <
> wireless@wispa.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting
>
>
>
> I just don’t put my phone number on the post :-)
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> On Jul 22, 2019, at 8:35 AM, Claude Aiken via Wireless 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> There are a number of WISPA vendor members who offer white-label VoIP
> service. I won’t list them here because inevitably I’ll leave someone off
> and I’ll get an angry phone call!
>
>
>
> I discussed this in the most recent ISP Radio in the latter half of the
> show, and it was item #6 on the top 10 list on our most recent webinar.
>
>
>
> We didn’t offer a webinar particularly on phone, but if there is enough
> interest we may want to take a look at it.
>
>
>
> *From:* James Wilson 
> *Sent:* Monday, July 22, 2019 8:15 AM
> *To:* Claude Aiken 
> *Cc:* t...@cherrycapitalconnection.com; WISPA General List <
> wireless@wispa.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting
>
>
>
>   We attended the Government Subsidized Overbuilding webinar but didn't
> hear anything about a phone service seminar.
>
>
>
>   For anyone else that is trying to keep up:
>
>
>
>   NANP is this:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Numbering_Plan
>
>
>
>   N11 is this:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N11_code
>
>
>
>   I think that Ooma was offering this a year or two ago at WISPA in
> Memphis.  We'll check on it.
>
>
>
>   Please let us know if there are others that may be better.  We're not
> exactly in the phone business and just recommend to our customers to use a
> smartphone with WiFi calling.  But it looks like we're going to have to
> offer phone service not to get further overbuilt on!
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
> -James Wilson
>
>
>
> RidgeComms
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 7:52 AM Claude Aiken  wrote:
>
> Yes, N11.
>
>
>
> *From:* t...@cherrycapitalconnection.com 
> *Sent:* Monday, July 22, 2019 7:51 AM
> *To:* Claude Aiken ; 'WISPA General List' <
> wireless@wispa.org>; 'James Wilson' 
> *Subject:* RE: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting
>
>
>
> Claude X11 or should the reference be N11
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org  *On
> Behalf Of *Claude Aiken via Wireless
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 21, 2019 10:08 PM
> *To:* James Wilson ; WISPA General List <
> wireless@wispa.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting
>
>
>
> As long as it is phone service that reaches NANP numbers including X11
> numbers, it counts as long as it is offered by YOUR company. Can be white
> label.
>
>
>
> Yes, has to be reflected on 477.
>
>
>
> We did a webinar last week on this topic, hope to post for members soon.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  Original message 
>
> From: James Wilson via Wireless 
>
> Date: 7/21/19 9:55 PM (GMT-05:00)
>
> To: WISPA General List 
>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting
>
>
>
> Is there some information about what is considered phone service?
>
>
>
> Can we just offer something like Ooma?  Does this phone service need to be
> reflected in FCC 477?
>
>
>
> Is there a place to go for further information?
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 12, 2019, 8:52 AM Mark Radabaugh via Wireless <
> wireless@wispa.org> wrote:
>
> There are two upcoming items on the FCC’s August 1st meeting on items that
> will effect all WISP’s.Please review the documents below.
>
>
>
> Short summary:
>
>
>
> 477 Order - will revamp the 477 data collection process and information.
> Personally this is a good thing.
>
>
>
> RDOF - This is the next $20,400,000,000 (20.4 Billion Dollars) that will
> be spend to overbuild your network if you are not currently providing 25/3
> service & phone.
>
>
>
> WISPA has time to meet with the commissioners and discuss up to the 25th.
>   A lot of effort has already gone into making sure that both of these are
> fair and open to all providers, not just the Telco’s.   There is no way to
> stop the feds from spending this money - it’s coming regardless of what we
> do.   Both political parties, the administration, and the FCC all want to
> spend money on rural broadband.
>
>

Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting

[Daniel White via Wireless]

Ooma does not count as offering VoIP service.  Since you are not billing 
the customer (i.e. collecting revenue) or collecting fees (specifically 
FUSF) you do not file a 499 nor a 477 for services provided through Ooma.


Atheral White-Label VoIP on the other hand does count, as you are 
providing a white-label (vs. a resale) service and billing your 
customers.  Some information about our offering can be found here: 
https://atheral.co/wlvoip


Happy to discuss offlist with anyone... you can book a meeting with me 
here: https://calendly.com/atheralsales/prtdemo


Thank you,

photograph  
Daniel White
Co-Founder - Business Development & Operations
phone: +1 (702) 470-2766
direct:+1 (702) 470-2770

James Wilson via Wireless wrote on 7/22/19 06:15:
  We attended the Government Subsidized Overbuilding webinar but 
didn't hear anything about a phone service seminar.


For anyone else that is trying to keep up:

NANP is this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Numbering_Plan

N11 is this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N11_code

I think that Ooma was offering this a year or two ago at WISPA in 
Memphis.  We'll check on it.


  Please let us know if there are others that may be better.  We're 
not exactly in the phone business and just recommend to our customers 
to use a smartphone with WiFi calling.  But it looks like we're going 
to have to offer phone service not to get further overbuilt on!


Thank you,

-James Wilson

RidgeComms






On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 7:52 AM Claude Aiken <mailto:cai...@wispa.org>> wrote:


Yes, N11.

*From:* t...@cherrycapitalconnection.com
<mailto:t...@cherrycapitalconnection.com>
mailto:t...@cherrycapitalconnection.com>>
*Sent:* Monday, July 22, 2019 7:51 AM
*To:* Claude Aiken mailto:cai...@wispa.org>>;
'WISPA General List' mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>; 'James Wilson' mailto:ja...@ridgecomms.com>>
*Subject:* RE: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting

Claude X11 or should the reference be N11

*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org
<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>> *On Behalf Of *Claude Aiken
via Wireless
*Sent:* Sunday, July 21, 2019 10:08 PM
*To:* James Wilson mailto:ja...@ridgecomms.com>>; WISPA General List
    mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting

As long as it is phone service that reaches NANP numbers including
X11 numbers, it counts as long as it is offered by YOUR company.
Can be white label.

Yes, has to be reflected on 477.

We did a webinar last week on this topic, hope to post for members
soon.

 Original message 

From: James Wilson via Wireless mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>

Date: 7/21/19 9:55 PM (GMT-05:00)

    To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>

Subject: Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting

Is there some information about what is considered phone service?

Can we just offer something like Ooma?  Does this phone service
need to be reflected in FCC 477?

Is there a place to go for further information?

Thanks!

On Fri, Jul 12, 2019, 8:52 AM Mark Radabaugh via Wireless
mailto:wireless@wispa.org>> wrote:

There are two upcoming items on the FCC’s August 1st meeting
on items that will effect all WISP’s.    Please review the
documents below.

Short summary:

477 Order - will revamp the 477 data collection process and
information.   Personally this is a good thing.

RDOF - This is the next $20,400,000,000 (20.4 Billion Dollars)
that will be spend to overbuild your network if you are not
currently providing 25/3 service & phone.

WISPA has time to meet with the commissioners and discuss up
to the 25th.   A lot of effort has already gone into making
sure that both of these are fair and open to all providers,
not just the Telco’s.   There is no way to stop the feds from
spending this money - it’s coming regardless of what we do.  
Both political parties, the administration, and the FCC all
want to spend money on rural broadband.

*/YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR PART/* to either position yourself to
receive this funding, or prevent your competitors from getting
it and overbuilding you.

Mark

Mark Radabaugh

WISPA Policy Committee Chair

419-261-5996

Begin forwarded message:

*From: *"Coran, Steve via PolicyCommittee"
mailto:policycommit...@wispa.org>>

*Subject: [PolicyCommittee] Draft Items for August 1 FCC
Meeting*

*Date: *July 11, 2019 at 5:48:29 PM EDT

*To: *"'policycommit...@wispa.org
<mailto:policycommit.

Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting

[Claude Aiken via Wireless]

Wise man…

From: Mark Radabaugh 
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 8:39 AM
To: Claude Aiken ; WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting

I just don’t put my phone number on the post :-)

Mark


On Jul 22, 2019, at 8:35 AM, Claude Aiken via Wireless 
mailto:wireless@wispa.org>> wrote:

There are a number of WISPA vendor members who offer white-label VoIP service. 
I won’t list them here because inevitably I’ll leave someone off and I’ll get 
an angry phone call!

I discussed this in the most recent ISP Radio in the latter half of the show, 
and it was item #6 on the top 10 list on our most recent webinar.

We didn’t offer a webinar particularly on phone, but if there is enough 
interest we may want to take a look at it.

From: James Wilson mailto:ja...@ridgecomms.com>>
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 8:15 AM
To: Claude Aiken mailto:cai...@wispa.org>>
Cc: t...@cherrycapitalconnection.com<mailto:t...@cherrycapitalconnection.com>; 
WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting

  We attended the Government Subsidized Overbuilding webinar but didn't hear 
anything about a phone service seminar.

  For anyone else that is trying to keep up:

  NANP is this:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Numbering_Plan

  N11 is this:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N11_code

  I think that Ooma was offering this a year or two ago at WISPA in Memphis.  
We'll check on it.

  Please let us know if there are others that may be better.  We're not exactly 
in the phone business and just recommend to our customers to use a smartphone 
with WiFi calling.  But it looks like we're going to have to offer phone 
service not to get further overbuilt on!

Thank you,

-James Wilson

RidgeComms






On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 7:52 AM Claude Aiken 
mailto:cai...@wispa.org>> wrote:
Yes, N11.

From: t...@cherrycapitalconnection.com<mailto:t...@cherrycapitalconnection.com> 
mailto:t...@cherrycapitalconnection.com>>
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 7:51 AM
To: Claude Aiken mailto:cai...@wispa.org>>; 'WISPA General 
List' mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>; 'James Wilson' 
mailto:ja...@ridgecomms.com>>
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting

Claude X11 or should the reference be N11

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>> On Behalf Of 
Claude Aiken via Wireless
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 10:08 PM
To: James Wilson mailto:ja...@ridgecomms.com>>; WISPA 
General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting

As long as it is phone service that reaches NANP numbers including X11 numbers, 
it counts as long as it is offered by YOUR company. Can be white label.

Yes, has to be reflected on 477.

We did a webinar last week on this topic, hope to post for members soon.



 Original message 
From: James Wilson via Wireless mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Date: 7/21/19 9:55 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting

Is there some information about what is considered phone service?

Can we just offer something like Ooma?  Does this phone service need to be 
reflected in FCC 477?

Is there a place to go for further information?

Thanks!

On Fri, Jul 12, 2019, 8:52 AM Mark Radabaugh via Wireless 
mailto:wireless@wispa.org>> wrote:
There are two upcoming items on the FCC’s August 1st meeting on items that will 
effect all WISP’s.Please review the documents below.

Short summary:

477 Order - will revamp the 477 data collection process and information.   
Personally this is a good thing.

RDOF - This is the next $20,400,000,000 (20.4 Billion Dollars) that will be 
spend to overbuild your network if you are not currently providing 25/3 service 
& phone.

WISPA has time to meet with the commissioners and discuss up to the 25th.   A 
lot of effort has already gone into making sure that both of these are fair and 
open to all providers, not just the Telco’s.   There is no way to stop the feds 
from spending this money - it’s coming regardless of what we do.   Both 
political parties, the administration, and the FCC all want to spend money on 
rural broadband.

YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR PART to either position yourself to receive this funding, 
or prevent your competitors from getting it and overbuilding you.

Mark

Mark Radabaugh
WISPA Policy Committee Chair
419-261-5996

Begin forwarded message:

From: "Coran, Steve via PolicyCommittee" 
mailto:policycommit...@wispa.org>>
Subject: [PolicyCommittee] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting
Date: July 11, 2019 at 5:48:29 PM EDT
To: "'policycommit...@wispa.org<mailto:policycommit...@wispa.org>'" 
mailto:policycommit...@wispa.org>>
Reply-To: "Coran, Steve" 
mailt

Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting

[Mark Radabaugh via Wireless]

I just don’t put my phone number on the post :-)

Mark

> On Jul 22, 2019, at 8:35 AM, Claude Aiken via Wireless  
> wrote:
> 
> There are a number of WISPA vendor members who offer white-label VoIP 
> service. I won’t list them here because inevitably I’ll leave someone off and 
> I’ll get an angry phone call!
>  
> I discussed this in the most recent ISP Radio in the latter half of the show, 
> and it was item #6 on the top 10 list on our most recent webinar.
>  
> We didn’t offer a webinar particularly on phone, but if there is enough 
> interest we may want to take a look at it.
>  
> From: James Wilson mailto:ja...@ridgecomms.com>> 
> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 8:15 AM
> To: Claude Aiken mailto:cai...@wispa.org>>
> Cc: t...@cherrycapitalconnection.com 
> <mailto:t...@cherrycapitalconnection.com>; WISPA General List 
> mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting
>  
>   We attended the Government Subsidized Overbuilding webinar but didn't hear 
> anything about a phone service seminar.
>  
>   For anyone else that is trying to keep up:
>  
>   NANP is this:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Numbering_Plan 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Numbering_Plan>
>  
>   N11 is this:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N11_code 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N11_code>
>  
>   I think that Ooma was offering this a year or two ago at WISPA in Memphis.  
> We'll check on it.
>  
>   Please let us know if there are others that may be better.  We're not 
> exactly in the phone business and just recommend to our customers to use a 
> smartphone with WiFi calling.  But it looks like we're going to have to offer 
> phone service not to get further overbuilt on!
>  
> Thank you,
>  
> -James Wilson
>  
> RidgeComms
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 7:52 AM Claude Aiken  <mailto:cai...@wispa.org>> wrote:
> Yes, N11.
>  
> From: t...@cherrycapitalconnection.com 
> <mailto:t...@cherrycapitalconnection.com>  <mailto:t...@cherrycapitalconnection.com>> 
> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 7:51 AM
> To: Claude Aiken mailto:cai...@wispa.org>>; 'WISPA General 
> List' mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>; 'James Wilson' 
> mailto:ja...@ridgecomms.com>>
> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting
>  
> Claude X11 or should the reference be N11
>  
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
> mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>> On Behalf Of 
> Claude Aiken via Wireless
> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 10:08 PM
> To: James Wilson mailto:ja...@ridgecomms.com>>; WISPA 
> General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting
>  
> As long as it is phone service that reaches NANP numbers including X11 
> numbers, it counts as long as it is offered by YOUR company. Can be white 
> label.
>  
> Yes, has to be reflected on 477.
>  
> We did a webinar last week on this topic, hope to post for members soon.
>  
>  
>  
>  Original message 
> From: James Wilson via Wireless  <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
> Date: 7/21/19 9:55 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting
>  
> Is there some information about what is considered phone service?
>  
> Can we just offer something like Ooma?  Does this phone service need to be 
> reflected in FCC 477?
>  
> Is there a place to go for further information?
>  
> Thanks!
>  
> On Fri, Jul 12, 2019, 8:52 AM Mark Radabaugh via Wireless  <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>> wrote:
> There are two upcoming items on the FCC’s August 1st meeting on items that 
> will effect all WISP’s.Please review the documents below.
>  
> Short summary:
>  
> 477 Order - will revamp the 477 data collection process and information.   
> Personally this is a good thing.
>  
> RDOF - This is the next $20,400,000,000 (20.4 Billion Dollars) that will be 
> spend to overbuild your network if you are not currently providing 25/3 
> service & phone.   
>  
> WISPA has time to meet with the commissioners and discuss up to the 25th.   A 
> lot of effort has already gone into making sure that both of these are fair 
> and open to all providers, not just the Telco’s.   There is no way to stop 
> the feds from spending this money - it’s coming regardless of what we do.   
> Both political parties, the administration, and the FCC all want to spend 
> money on rural broadband.  
>  
> YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR

Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting

[Mark Radabaugh via Wireless]

There are a number of WISPA vendors that offer solutions varying from 
whitelabel to entire on-premise solutions.  

A quick look through the member directory (and I apologize to the ones I miss, 
feel free to reply with the information):

CTI:  http://cticonnect <http://cticonnect/>.com
Ooma: http://www.ooma.com <http://www.ooma.com/>
Bicom: http://www.bicomsystems.com <http://www.bicomsystems.com/>
Ipifony: http://www.ipifony.com <http://www.ipifony.com/>
Windstream http://www.windstreamwholesale.com 
<http://www.windstreamwholesale.com/>
Netsapiens http://www.netsapiens <http://www.netsapiens/>.com
Atheral http://www.atheral.com <http://www.atheral.com/>
Solidphone Communications:  http://www.solidphone.us <http://www.solidphone.us/>

Mark


> On Jul 22, 2019, at 8:15 AM, James Wilson via Wireless  
> wrote:
> 
>   We attended the Government Subsidized Overbuilding webinar but didn't hear 
> anything about a phone service seminar.
> 
>   For anyone else that is trying to keep up:
> 
>   NANP is this:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Numbering_Plan 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Numbering_Plan>
> 
>   N11 is this:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N11_code 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N11_code>
> 
>   I think that Ooma was offering this a year or two ago at WISPA in Memphis.  
> We'll check on it.
> 
>   Please let us know if there are others that may be better.  We're not 
> exactly in the phone business and just recommend to our customers to use a 
> smartphone with WiFi calling.  But it looks like we're going to have to offer 
> phone service not to get further overbuilt on!
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> -James Wilson
> 
> RidgeComms
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 7:52 AM Claude Aiken  <mailto:cai...@wispa.org>> wrote:
> Yes, N11.
> 
>  
> 
> From: t...@cherrycapitalconnection.com 
> <mailto:t...@cherrycapitalconnection.com>  <mailto:t...@cherrycapitalconnection.com>> 
> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 7:51 AM
> To: Claude Aiken mailto:cai...@wispa.org>>; 'WISPA General 
> List' mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>; 'James Wilson' 
> mailto:ja...@ridgecomms.com>>
> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting
> 
>  
> 
> Claude X11 or should the reference be N11
> 
>  
> 
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
> mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>> On Behalf Of 
> Claude Aiken via Wireless
> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 10:08 PM
> To: James Wilson mailto:ja...@ridgecomms.com>>; WISPA 
> General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting
> 
>  
> 
> As long as it is phone service that reaches NANP numbers including X11 
> numbers, it counts as long as it is offered by YOUR company. Can be white 
> label.
> 
>  
> 
> Yes, has to be reflected on 477.
> 
>  
> 
> We did a webinar last week on this topic, hope to post for members soon.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  Original message 
> 
> From: James Wilson via Wireless  <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
> 
> Date: 7/21/19 9:55 PM (GMT-05:00)
> 
> To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
> 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting
> 
>  
> 
> Is there some information about what is considered phone service?
> 
>  
> 
> Can we just offer something like Ooma?  Does this phone service need to be 
> reflected in FCC 477?
> 
>  
> 
> Is there a place to go for further information?
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks!
> 
>  
> 
> On Fri, Jul 12, 2019, 8:52 AM Mark Radabaugh via Wireless  <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>> wrote:
> 
> There are two upcoming items on the FCC’s August 1st meeting on items that 
> will effect all WISP’s.Please review the documents below.
> 
>  
> 
> Short summary:
> 
>  
> 
> 477 Order - will revamp the 477 data collection process and information.   
> Personally this is a good thing.
> 
>  
> 
> RDOF - This is the next $20,400,000,000 (20.4 Billion Dollars) that will be 
> spend to overbuild your network if you are not currently providing 25/3 
> service & phone.   
> 
>  
> 
> WISPA has time to meet with the commissioners and discuss up to the 25th.   A 
> lot of effort has already gone into making sure that both of these are fair 
> and open to all providers, not just the Telco’s.   There is no way to stop 
> the feds from spending this money - it’s coming regardless of what we do.   
> Both political parties, the administ

Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting

[James Wilson via Wireless]

Thanks, I'll check them out.

On Mon, Jul 22, 2019, 8:37 AM Mark Radabaugh  wrote:

> There are a number of WISPA vendors that offer solutions varying from
> whitelabel to entire on-premise solutions.
>
> A quick look through the member directory (and I apologize to the ones I
> miss, feel free to reply with the information):
>
> CTI:  http://cticonnect.com
> Ooma: http://www.ooma.com
> Bicom: http://www.bicomsystems.com
> Ipifony: http://www.ipifony.com
> Windstream http://www.windstreamwholesale.com
> Netsapiens http://www.netsapiens.com
> Atheral http://www.atheral.com
> Solidphone Communications:  http://www.solidphone.us
>
> Mark
>
>
> On Jul 22, 2019, at 8:15 AM, James Wilson via Wireless 
> wrote:
>
>   We attended the Government Subsidized Overbuilding webinar but didn't
> hear anything about a phone service seminar.
>
>   For anyone else that is trying to keep up:
>
>   NANP is this:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Numbering_Plan
>
>   N11 is this:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N11_code
>
>   I think that Ooma was offering this a year or two ago at WISPA in
> Memphis.  We'll check on it.
>
>   Please let us know if there are others that may be better.  We're not
> exactly in the phone business and just recommend to our customers to use a
> smartphone with WiFi calling.  But it looks like we're going to have to
> offer phone service not to get further overbuilt on!
>
> Thank you,
>
> -James Wilson
>
> RidgeComms
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 7:52 AM Claude Aiken  wrote:
>
>> Yes, N11.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* t...@cherrycapitalconnection.com 
>>
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 22, 2019 7:51 AM
>> *To:* Claude Aiken ; 'WISPA General List' <
>> wireless@wispa.org>; 'James Wilson' 
>> *Subject:* RE: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting
>>
>>
>>
>> Claude X11 or should the reference be N11
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org  *On
>> Behalf Of *Claude Aiken via Wireless
>> *Sent:* Sunday, July 21, 2019 10:08 PM
>> *To:* James Wilson ; WISPA General List <
>> wireless@wispa.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting
>>
>>
>>
>> As long as it is phone service that reaches NANP numbers including X11
>> numbers, it counts as long as it is offered by YOUR company. Can be white
>> label.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, has to be reflected on 477.
>>
>>
>>
>> We did a webinar last week on this topic, hope to post for members soon.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Original message 
>>
>> From: James Wilson via Wireless 
>>
>> Date: 7/21/19 9:55 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>
>> To: WISPA General List 
>>
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting
>>
>>
>>
>> Is there some information about what is considered phone service?
>>
>>
>>
>> Can we just offer something like Ooma?  Does this phone service need to
>> be reflected in FCC 477?
>>
>>
>>
>> Is there a place to go for further information?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 12, 2019, 8:52 AM Mark Radabaugh via Wireless <
>> wireless@wispa.org> wrote:
>>
>> There are two upcoming items on the FCC’s August 1st meeting on items
>> that will effect all WISP’s.Please review the documents below.
>>
>>
>>
>> Short summary:
>>
>>
>>
>> 477 Order - will revamp the 477 data collection process and information.
>>   Personally this is a good thing.
>>
>>
>>
>> RDOF - This is the next $20,400,000,000 (20.4 Billion Dollars) that will
>> be spend to overbuild your network if you are not currently providing 25/3
>> service & phone.
>>
>>
>>
>> WISPA has time to meet with the commissioners and discuss up to the 25th.
>>   A lot of effort has already gone into making sure that both of these are
>> fair and open to all providers, not just the Telco’s.   There is no way to
>> stop the feds from spending this money - it’s coming regardless of what we
>> do.   Both political parties, the administration, and the FCC all want to
>> spend money on rural broadband.
>>
>>
>>
>> *YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR PART* to either position yourself to receive this
>> funding, or prevent your competitors from getting it and overbuilding you.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark Radabaug

Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting

[Claude Aiken via Wireless]

There are a number of WISPA vendor members who offer white-label VoIP service. 
I won’t list them here because inevitably I’ll leave someone off and I’ll get 
an angry phone call!

I discussed this in the most recent ISP Radio in the latter half of the show, 
and it was item #6 on the top 10 list on our most recent webinar.

We didn’t offer a webinar particularly on phone, but if there is enough 
interest we may want to take a look at it.

From: James Wilson 
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 8:15 AM
To: Claude Aiken 
Cc: t...@cherrycapitalconnection.com; WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting

  We attended the Government Subsidized Overbuilding webinar but didn't hear 
anything about a phone service seminar.

  For anyone else that is trying to keep up:

  NANP is this:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Numbering_Plan

  N11 is this:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N11_code

  I think that Ooma was offering this a year or two ago at WISPA in Memphis.  
We'll check on it.

  Please let us know if there are others that may be better.  We're not exactly 
in the phone business and just recommend to our customers to use a smartphone 
with WiFi calling.  But it looks like we're going to have to offer phone 
service not to get further overbuilt on!

Thank you,

-James Wilson

RidgeComms






On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 7:52 AM Claude Aiken 
mailto:cai...@wispa.org>> wrote:
Yes, N11.

From: t...@cherrycapitalconnection.com<mailto:t...@cherrycapitalconnection.com> 
mailto:t...@cherrycapitalconnection.com>>
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 7:51 AM
To: Claude Aiken mailto:cai...@wispa.org>>; 'WISPA General 
List' mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>; 'James Wilson' 
mailto:ja...@ridgecomms.com>>
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting

Claude X11 or should the reference be N11

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>> On Behalf Of 
Claude Aiken via Wireless
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 10:08 PM
To: James Wilson mailto:ja...@ridgecomms.com>>; WISPA 
General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting

As long as it is phone service that reaches NANP numbers including X11 numbers, 
it counts as long as it is offered by YOUR company. Can be white label.

Yes, has to be reflected on 477.

We did a webinar last week on this topic, hope to post for members soon.



 Original message 
From: James Wilson via Wireless mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Date: 7/21/19 9:55 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting

Is there some information about what is considered phone service?

Can we just offer something like Ooma?  Does this phone service need to be 
reflected in FCC 477?

Is there a place to go for further information?

Thanks!

On Fri, Jul 12, 2019, 8:52 AM Mark Radabaugh via Wireless 
mailto:wireless@wispa.org>> wrote:
There are two upcoming items on the FCC’s August 1st meeting on items that will 
effect all WISP’s.Please review the documents below.

Short summary:

477 Order - will revamp the 477 data collection process and information.   
Personally this is a good thing.

RDOF - This is the next $20,400,000,000 (20.4 Billion Dollars) that will be 
spend to overbuild your network if you are not currently providing 25/3 service 
& phone.

WISPA has time to meet with the commissioners and discuss up to the 25th.   A 
lot of effort has already gone into making sure that both of these are fair and 
open to all providers, not just the Telco’s.   There is no way to stop the feds 
from spending this money - it’s coming regardless of what we do.   Both 
political parties, the administration, and the FCC all want to spend money on 
rural broadband.

YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR PART to either position yourself to receive this funding, 
or prevent your competitors from getting it and overbuilding you.

Mark

Mark Radabaugh
WISPA Policy Committee Chair
419-261-5996

Begin forwarded message:

From: "Coran, Steve via PolicyCommittee" 
mailto:policycommit...@wispa.org>>
Subject: [PolicyCommittee] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting
Date: July 11, 2019 at 5:48:29 PM EDT
To: "'policycommit...@wispa.org<mailto:policycommit...@wispa.org>'" 
mailto:policycommit...@wispa.org>>
Reply-To: "Coran, Steve" 
mailto:sco...@lermansenter.com>>, 
mailto:policycommit...@wispa.org>>

Just released, below are links to draft items of interest for the FCC’s August 
1 open meeting.  We have the opportunity to meet with the Commissioners until 
the afternoon of July 25.  Would appreciate the Committee’s input on these 
soon.  Just released, and I have not had a chance to review these yet.

DRAFT Form 477 Order + FNPRM: 
https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-358433A1.

Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting

[James Wilson via Wireless]

  We attended the Government Subsidized Overbuilding webinar but didn't
hear anything about a phone service seminar.

  For anyone else that is trying to keep up:

  NANP is this:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Numbering_Plan

  N11 is this:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N11_code

  I think that Ooma was offering this a year or two ago at WISPA in
Memphis.  We'll check on it.

  Please let us know if there are others that may be better.  We're not
exactly in the phone business and just recommend to our customers to use a
smartphone with WiFi calling.  But it looks like we're going to have to
offer phone service not to get further overbuilt on!

Thank you,

-James Wilson

RidgeComms






On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 7:52 AM Claude Aiken  wrote:

> Yes, N11.
>
>
>
> *From:* t...@cherrycapitalconnection.com 
> *Sent:* Monday, July 22, 2019 7:51 AM
> *To:* Claude Aiken ; 'WISPA General List' <
> wireless@wispa.org>; 'James Wilson' 
> *Subject:* RE: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting
>
>
>
> Claude X11 or should the reference be N11
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org  *On
> Behalf Of *Claude Aiken via Wireless
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 21, 2019 10:08 PM
> *To:* James Wilson ; WISPA General List <
> wireless@wispa.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting
>
>
>
> As long as it is phone service that reaches NANP numbers including X11
> numbers, it counts as long as it is offered by YOUR company. Can be white
> label.
>
>
>
> Yes, has to be reflected on 477.
>
>
>
> We did a webinar last week on this topic, hope to post for members soon.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  Original message 
>
> From: James Wilson via Wireless 
>
> Date: 7/21/19 9:55 PM (GMT-05:00)
>
> To: WISPA General List 
>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting
>
>
>
> Is there some information about what is considered phone service?
>
>
>
> Can we just offer something like Ooma?  Does this phone service need to be
> reflected in FCC 477?
>
>
>
> Is there a place to go for further information?
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 12, 2019, 8:52 AM Mark Radabaugh via Wireless <
> wireless@wispa.org> wrote:
>
> There are two upcoming items on the FCC’s August 1st meeting on items that
> will effect all WISP’s.Please review the documents below.
>
>
>
> Short summary:
>
>
>
> 477 Order - will revamp the 477 data collection process and information.
> Personally this is a good thing.
>
>
>
> RDOF - This is the next $20,400,000,000 (20.4 Billion Dollars) that will
> be spend to overbuild your network if you are not currently providing 25/3
> service & phone.
>
>
>
> WISPA has time to meet with the commissioners and discuss up to the 25th.
>   A lot of effort has already gone into making sure that both of these are
> fair and open to all providers, not just the Telco’s.   There is no way to
> stop the feds from spending this money - it’s coming regardless of what we
> do.   Both political parties, the administration, and the FCC all want to
> spend money on rural broadband.
>
>
>
> *YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR PART* to either position yourself to receive this
> funding, or prevent your competitors from getting it and overbuilding you.
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> Mark Radabaugh
>
> WISPA Policy Committee Chair
>
> 419-261-5996
>
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>
>
> *From: *"Coran, Steve via PolicyCommittee" 
>
> *Subject: [PolicyCommittee] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting*
>
> *Date: *July 11, 2019 at 5:48:29 PM EDT
>
> *To: *"'policycommit...@wispa.org'" 
>
> *Reply-To: *"Coran, Steve" , <
> policycommit...@wispa.org>
>
>
>
> Just released, below are links to draft items of interest for the FCC’s
> August 1 open meeting.  We have the opportunity to meet with the
> Commissioners until the afternoon of July 25.  Would appreciate the
> Committee’s input on these soon.  Just released, and I have not had a
> chance to review these yet.
>
>
>
> DRAFT Form 477 Order + FNPRM:
> https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-358433A1.pdf
>
> DRAFT RDOF NPRM: https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-358432A1.pdf
>
>
>
> Stephen E. Coran
>
> Lerman Senter PLLC <http://www.lermansenter.com/> *|*2001 L Street, NW,
> Suite 400 *|* Washington, DC 20036
>
> 202-416-6744 (o) *|* 202-669-3288 (m) *| *sco...@lermansenter.com  
> *|*@stevecoran
> – twitter
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting

[Claude Aiken via Wireless]

Yes, N11.

From: t...@cherrycapitalconnection.com 
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 7:51 AM
To: Claude Aiken ; 'WISPA General List' ; 
'James Wilson' 
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting

Claude X11 or should the reference be N11

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>> On Behalf Of 
Claude Aiken via Wireless
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 10:08 PM
To: James Wilson mailto:ja...@ridgecomms.com>>; WISPA 
General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting

As long as it is phone service that reaches NANP numbers including X11 numbers, 
it counts as long as it is offered by YOUR company. Can be white label.

Yes, has to be reflected on 477.

We did a webinar last week on this topic, hope to post for members soon.



 Original message 
From: James Wilson via Wireless mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Date: 7/21/19 9:55 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting

Is there some information about what is considered phone service?

Can we just offer something like Ooma?  Does this phone service need to be 
reflected in FCC 477?

Is there a place to go for further information?

Thanks!

On Fri, Jul 12, 2019, 8:52 AM Mark Radabaugh via Wireless 
mailto:wireless@wispa.org>> wrote:
There are two upcoming items on the FCC's August 1st meeting on items that will 
effect all WISP's.Please review the documents below.

Short summary:

477 Order - will revamp the 477 data collection process and information.   
Personally this is a good thing.

RDOF - This is the next $20,400,000,000 (20.4 Billion Dollars) that will be 
spend to overbuild your network if you are not currently providing 25/3 service 
& phone.

WISPA has time to meet with the commissioners and discuss up to the 25th.   A 
lot of effort has already gone into making sure that both of these are fair and 
open to all providers, not just the Telco's.   There is no way to stop the feds 
from spending this money - it's coming regardless of what we do.   Both 
political parties, the administration, and the FCC all want to spend money on 
rural broadband.

YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR PART to either position yourself to receive this funding, 
or prevent your competitors from getting it and overbuilding you.

Mark

Mark Radabaugh
WISPA Policy Committee Chair
419-261-5996

Begin forwarded message:

From: "Coran, Steve via PolicyCommittee" 
mailto:policycommit...@wispa.org>>
Subject: [PolicyCommittee] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting
Date: July 11, 2019 at 5:48:29 PM EDT
To: "'policycommit...@wispa.org<mailto:policycommit...@wispa.org>'" 
mailto:policycommit...@wispa.org>>
Reply-To: "Coran, Steve" 
mailto:sco...@lermansenter.com>>, 
mailto:policycommit...@wispa.org>>

Just released, below are links to draft items of interest for the FCC's August 
1 open meeting.  We have the opportunity to meet with the Commissioners until 
the afternoon of July 25.  Would appreciate the Committee's input on these 
soon.  Just released, and I have not had a chance to review these yet.

DRAFT Form 477 Order + FNPRM: 
https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-358433A1.pdf
DRAFT RDOF NPRM: https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-358432A1.pdf

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| Washington, DC 20036
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Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting

[tim--- via Wireless]

Claude X11 or should the reference be N11

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org  On Behalf Of
Claude Aiken via Wireless
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 10:08 PM
To: James Wilson ; WISPA General List

Subject: Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting

 

As long as it is phone service that reaches NANP numbers including X11
numbers, it counts as long as it is offered by YOUR company. Can be white
label. 

 

Yes, has to be reflected on 477.

 

We did a webinar last week on this topic, hope to post for members soon.

 

 

 

 Original message 

From: James Wilson via Wireless mailto:wireless@wispa.org> > 

Date: 7/21/19 9:55 PM (GMT-05:00) 

To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org> > 

Subject: Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting 

 

Is there some information about what is considered phone service? 

 

Can we just offer something like Ooma?  Does this phone service need to be
reflected in FCC 477?

 

Is there a place to go for further information?

 

Thanks!

 

On Fri, Jul 12, 2019, 8:52 AM Mark Radabaugh via Wireless
mailto:wireless@wispa.org> > wrote:

There are two upcoming items on the FCC's August 1st meeting on items that
will effect all WISP's.Please review the documents below.

 

Short summary:

 

477 Order - will revamp the 477 data collection process and information.
Personally this is a good thing.

 

RDOF - This is the next $20,400,000,000 (20.4 Billion Dollars) that will be
spend to overbuild your network if you are not currently providing 25/3
service & phone.   

 

WISPA has time to meet with the commissioners and discuss up to the 25th.
A lot of effort has already gone into making sure that both of these are
fair and open to all providers, not just the Telco's.   There is no way to
stop the feds from spending this money - it's coming regardless of what we
do.   Both political parties, the administration, and the FCC all want to
spend money on rural broadband.  

 

YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR PART to either position yourself to receive this
funding, or prevent your competitors from getting it and overbuilding you.

 

Mark

 

Mark Radabaugh

WISPA Policy Committee Chair

419-261-5996





Begin forwarded message:

 

From: "Coran, Steve via PolicyCommittee" mailto:policycommit...@wispa.org> >

Subject: [PolicyCommittee] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting

Date: July 11, 2019 at 5:48:29 PM EDT

To: "'policycommit...@wispa.org <mailto:policycommit...@wispa.org> '"
mailto:policycommit...@wispa.org> >

Reply-To: "Coran, Steve" mailto:sco...@lermansenter.com> >, mailto:policycommit...@wispa.org> >

 

Just released, below are links to draft items of interest for the FCC's
August 1 open meeting.  We have the opportunity to meet with the
Commissioners until the afternoon of July 25.  Would appreciate the
Committee's input on these soon.  Just released, and I have not had a chance
to review these yet.

 

DRAFT Form 477 Order + FNPRM:
<https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-358433A1.pdf>
https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-358433A1.pdf

DRAFT RDOF NPRM:  <https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-358432A1.pdf>
https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-358432A1.pdf

 

Stephen E. Coran

Lerman Senter PLLC <http://www.lermansenter.com/>  |2001 L Street, NW, Suite
400 | Washington, DC 20036

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Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting

[Claude Aiken via Wireless]

As long as it is phone service that reaches NANP numbers including X11 numbers, 
it counts as long as it is offered by YOUR company. Can be white label.

Yes, has to be reflected on 477.

We did a webinar last week on this topic, hope to post for members soon.



 Original message 
From: James Wilson via Wireless 
Date: 7/21/19 9:55 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting

Is there some information about what is considered phone service?

Can we just offer something like Ooma?  Does this phone service need to be 
reflected in FCC 477?

Is there a place to go for further information?

Thanks!

On Fri, Jul 12, 2019, 8:52 AM Mark Radabaugh via Wireless 
mailto:wireless@wispa.org>> wrote:
There are two upcoming items on the FCC’s August 1st meeting on items that will 
effect all WISP’s.Please review the documents below.

Short summary:

477 Order - will revamp the 477 data collection process and information.   
Personally this is a good thing.

RDOF - This is the next $20,400,000,000 (20.4 Billion Dollars) that will be 
spend to overbuild your network if you are not currently providing 25/3 service 
& phone.

WISPA has time to meet with the commissioners and discuss up to the 25th.   A 
lot of effort has already gone into making sure that both of these are fair and 
open to all providers, not just the Telco’s.   There is no way to stop the feds 
from spending this money - it’s coming regardless of what we do.   Both 
political parties, the administration, and the FCC all want to spend money on 
rural broadband.

YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR PART to either position yourself to receive this funding, 
or prevent your competitors from getting it and overbuilding you.

Mark

Mark Radabaugh
WISPA Policy Committee Chair
419-261-5996

Begin forwarded message:

From: "Coran, Steve via PolicyCommittee" 
mailto:policycommit...@wispa.org>>
Subject: [PolicyCommittee] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting
Date: July 11, 2019 at 5:48:29 PM EDT
To: "'policycommit...@wispa.org<mailto:policycommit...@wispa.org>'" 
mailto:policycommit...@wispa.org>>
Reply-To: "Coran, Steve" 
mailto:sco...@lermansenter.com>>, 
mailto:policycommit...@wispa.org>>

Just released, below are links to draft items of interest for the FCC’s August 
1 open meeting.  We have the opportunity to meet with the Commissioners until 
the afternoon of July 25.  Would appreciate the Committee’s input on these 
soon.  Just released, and I have not had a chance to review these yet.

DRAFT Form 477 Order + FNPRM: 
https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-358433A1.pdf
DRAFT RDOF NPRM: https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-358432A1.pdf

Stephen E. Coran
Lerman Senter PLLC<http://www.lermansenter.com/> |2001 L Street, NW, Suite 400 
| Washington, DC 20036
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Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting

[James Wilson via Wireless]

Is there some information about what is considered phone service?

Can we just offer something like Ooma?  Does this phone service need to be
reflected in FCC 477?

Is there a place to go for further information?

Thanks!

On Fri, Jul 12, 2019, 8:52 AM Mark Radabaugh via Wireless <
wireless@wispa.org> wrote:

> There are two upcoming items on the FCC’s August 1st meeting on items that
> will effect all WISP’s.Please review the documents below.
>
> Short summary:
>
> 477 Order - will revamp the 477 data collection process and information.
> Personally this is a good thing.
>
> RDOF - This is the next $20,400,000,000 (20.4 Billion Dollars) that will
> be spend to overbuild your network if you are not currently providing 25/3
> service & phone.
>
> WISPA has time to meet with the commissioners and discuss up to the 25th.
>   A lot of effort has already gone into making sure that both of these are
> fair and open to all providers, not just the Telco’s.   There is no way to
> stop the feds from spending this money - it’s coming regardless of what we
> do.   Both political parties, the administration, and the FCC all want to
> spend money on rural broadband.
>
> *YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR PART* to either position yourself to receive this
> funding, or prevent your competitors from getting it and overbuilding you.
>
> Mark
>
> Mark Radabaugh
> WISPA Policy Committee Chair
> 419-261-5996
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From: *"Coran, Steve via PolicyCommittee" 
> *Subject: **[PolicyCommittee] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting*
> *Date: *July 11, 2019 at 5:48:29 PM EDT
> *To: *"'policycommit...@wispa.org'" 
> *Reply-To: *"Coran, Steve" , <
> policycommit...@wispa.org>
>
> Just released, below are links to draft items of interest for the FCC’s
> August 1 open meeting.  We have the opportunity to meet with the
> Commissioners until the afternoon of July 25.  Would appreciate the
> Committee’s input on these soon.  Just released, and I have not had a
> chance to review these yet.
>
> DRAFT Form 477 Order + FNPRM:
> https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-358433A1.pdf
> DRAFT RDOF NPRM: https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-358432A1.pdf
>
> Stephen E. Coran
> Lerman Senter PLLC  *|*2001 L Street, NW,
> Suite 400 *|* Washington, DC 20036
> 202-416-6744 (o) *|* 202-669-3288 (m) *| *sco...@lermansenter.com  
> *|*@stevecoran
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>
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Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting

[Claude Aiken via Wireless]

This bears repeating. If you do not want to be overbuilt with government money 
you must:

1) File your 477
2) Offer voice service
3) Offer 25/3 Mbps or better broadband service



 Original message 
From: Mark Radabaugh via Wireless 
Date: 7/12/19 8:52 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: Ken Hohhof via Members , WISPA General List 

Subject: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting

There are two upcoming items on the FCC’s August 1st meeting on items that will 
effect all WISP’s.Please review the documents below.

Short summary:

477 Order - will revamp the 477 data collection process and information.   
Personally this is a good thing.

RDOF - This is the next $20,400,000,000 (20.4 Billion Dollars) that will be 
spend to overbuild your network if you are not currently providing 25/3 service 
& phone.

WISPA has time to meet with the commissioners and discuss up to the 25th.   A 
lot of effort has already gone into making sure that both of these are fair and 
open to all providers, not just the Telco’s.   There is no way to stop the feds 
from spending this money - it’s coming regardless of what we do.   Both 
political parties, the administration, and the FCC all want to spend money on 
rural broadband.

YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR PART to either position yourself to receive this funding, 
or prevent your competitors from getting it and overbuilding you.

Mark

Mark Radabaugh
WISPA Policy Committee Chair
419-261-5996

Begin forwarded message:

From: "Coran, Steve via PolicyCommittee" 
mailto:policycommit...@wispa.org>>
Subject: [PolicyCommittee] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting
Date: July 11, 2019 at 5:48:29 PM EDT
To: "'policycommit...@wispa.org<mailto:policycommit...@wispa.org>'" 
mailto:policycommit...@wispa.org>>
Reply-To: "Coran, Steve" 
mailto:sco...@lermansenter.com>>, 
mailto:policycommit...@wispa.org>>

Just released, below are links to draft items of interest for the FCC’s August 
1 open meeting.  We have the opportunity to meet with the Commissioners until 
the afternoon of July 25.  Would appreciate the Committee’s input on these 
soon.  Just released, and I have not had a chance to review these yet.

DRAFT Form 477 Order + FNPRM: 
https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-358433A1.pdf
DRAFT RDOF NPRM: https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-358432A1.pdf

Stephen E. Coran
Lerman Senter PLLC<http://www.lermansenter.com/> |2001 L Street, NW, Suite 400 
| Washington, DC 20036
202-416-6744 (o) | 202-669-3288 (m) | 
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Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting

[Claude Aiken via Wireless]

We pushed for reducing these burdens (audited financials and LoC) last time. 
Before WISPA's advocacy, LoC must have been procured from a Top 100 bank, and 
audited financials had to be submitted before bidding began. We were able to 
get both of those changed to allow more financial entities to provide thr LoC 
(FCC said no on the performance bond), and get audited financials submitted 
only by winners.

We will try again this time, and will likely get a coalition of smaller 
providers associations together to try to push this.

For my edification, are you suggesting we de-prioritize spectrum advocacy in 
favor of this?

Claude Aiken
President & CEO
WISPA


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org  on behalf of 
Keefe John via Wireless 
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2019 9:03:18 AM
To: Mark Radabaugh; WISPA General List; policycommit...@wispa.org
Cc: Ken Hohhof via Members
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting

More funding is always welcome!

What can be done to ensure access to this funding by all WISPs?  The CAF II 
rules were so onerous that only a tiny percentage of WISPA members were able to 
participate.  This needs to change.  WISPA's #1 priority should be crafting 
rules that allow ALL WISPs to have a chance to participate.

The two biggest barriers to entry are:

Letter of Credit - These are very difficult to obtain, especially for the 
majority of our members.  Can we propose a bond as an alternative?

Audited Financial Statements - Audited financial statements cost $10,000 - 
$50,000 per year or more.  This is a huge hurdle for the majority of WISPs.  
Can we propose CPA-prepared financial statements and/or IRS tax return 
transcripts for small entities?

Keefe John
CEO
Ethoplex
Direct: 262.345.5200

Ethoplex Business Internet
http://www.ethoplex.com/
Signal Residential Internet
http://www.signalisp.com/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/keefejohn/


On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 7:52 AM Mark Radabaugh via Wireless 
mailto:wireless@wispa.org>> wrote:
There are two upcoming items on the FCC’s August 1st meeting on items that will 
effect all WISP’s.Please review the documents below.

Short summary:

477 Order - will revamp the 477 data collection process and information.   
Personally this is a good thing.

RDOF - This is the next $20,400,000,000 (20.4 Billion Dollars) that will be 
spend to overbuild your network if you are not currently providing 25/3 service 
& phone.

WISPA has time to meet with the commissioners and discuss up to the 25th.   A 
lot of effort has already gone into making sure that both of these are fair and 
open to all providers, not just the Telco’s.   There is no way to stop the feds 
from spending this money - it’s coming regardless of what we do.   Both 
political parties, the administration, and the FCC all want to spend money on 
rural broadband.

YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR PART to either position yourself to receive this funding, 
or prevent your competitors from getting it and overbuilding you.

Mark

Mark Radabaugh
WISPA Policy Committee Chair
419-261-5996

Begin forwarded message:

From: "Coran, Steve via PolicyCommittee" 
mailto:policycommit...@wispa.org>>
Subject: [PolicyCommittee] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting
Date: July 11, 2019 at 5:48:29 PM EDT
To: "'policycommit...@wispa.org<mailto:policycommit...@wispa.org>'" 
mailto:policycommit...@wispa.org>>
Reply-To: "Coran, Steve" 
mailto:sco...@lermansenter.com>>, 
mailto:policycommit...@wispa.org>>

Just released, below are links to draft items of interest for the FCC’s August 
1 open meeting.  We have the opportunity to meet with the Commissioners until 
the afternoon of July 25.  Would appreciate the Committee’s input on these 
soon.  Just released, and I have not had a chance to review these yet.

DRAFT Form 477 Order + FNPRM: 
https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-358433A1.pdf
DRAFT RDOF NPRM: https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-358432A1.pdf

Stephen E. Coran
Lerman Senter PLLC<http://www.lermansenter.com/> |2001 L Street, NW, Suite 400 
| Washington, DC 20036
202-416-6744 (o) | 202-669-3288 (m) | 
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Re: [WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting

[Keefe John via Wireless]

More funding is always welcome!

What can be done to ensure access to this funding by all WISPs?  The CAF II
rules were so onerous that only a tiny percentage of WISPA members were
able to participate.  This needs to change.  WISPA's #1 priority should be
crafting rules that allow ALL WISPs to have a chance to participate.

The two biggest barriers to entry are:

Letter of Credit - These are very difficult to obtain, especially for the
majority of our members.  Can we propose a bond as an alternative?

Audited Financial Statements - Audited financial statements cost $10,000 -
$50,000 per year or more.  This is a huge hurdle for the majority of
WISPs.  Can we propose CPA-prepared financial statements and/or IRS tax
return transcripts for small entities?

Keefe John
CEO
Ethoplex
Direct: 262.345.5200

Ethoplex Business Internet
http://www.ethoplex.com/
Signal Residential Internet
http://www.signalisp.com/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/keefejohn/


On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 7:52 AM Mark Radabaugh via Wireless <
wireless@wispa.org> wrote:

> There are two upcoming items on the FCC’s August 1st meeting on items that
> will effect all WISP’s.Please review the documents below.
>
> Short summary:
>
> 477 Order - will revamp the 477 data collection process and information.
> Personally this is a good thing.
>
> RDOF - This is the next $20,400,000,000 (20.4 Billion Dollars) that will
> be spend to overbuild your network if you are not currently providing 25/3
> service & phone.
>
> WISPA has time to meet with the commissioners and discuss up to the 25th.
>   A lot of effort has already gone into making sure that both of these are
> fair and open to all providers, not just the Telco’s.   There is no way to
> stop the feds from spending this money - it’s coming regardless of what we
> do.   Both political parties, the administration, and the FCC all want to
> spend money on rural broadband.
>
> *YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR PART* to either position yourself to receive this
> funding, or prevent your competitors from getting it and overbuilding you.
>
> Mark
>
> Mark Radabaugh
> WISPA Policy Committee Chair
> 419-261-5996
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From: *"Coran, Steve via PolicyCommittee" 
> *Subject: **[PolicyCommittee] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting*
> *Date: *July 11, 2019 at 5:48:29 PM EDT
> *To: *"'policycommit...@wispa.org'" 
> *Reply-To: *"Coran, Steve" , <
> policycommit...@wispa.org>
>
> Just released, below are links to draft items of interest for the FCC’s
> August 1 open meeting.  We have the opportunity to meet with the
> Commissioners until the afternoon of July 25.  Would appreciate the
> Committee’s input on these soon.  Just released, and I have not had a
> chance to review these yet.
>
> DRAFT Form 477 Order + FNPRM:
> https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-358433A1.pdf
> DRAFT RDOF NPRM: https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-358432A1.pdf
>
> Stephen E. Coran
> Lerman Senter PLLC  *|*2001 L Street, NW,
> Suite 400 *|* Washington, DC 20036
> 202-416-6744 (o) *|* 202-669-3288 (m) *| *sco...@lermansenter.com  
> *|*@stevecoran
> – twitter
>
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[WISPA] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting

[Mark Radabaugh via Wireless]

There are two upcoming items on the FCC’s August 1st meeting on items that will 
effect all WISP’s.Please review the documents below.

Short summary:

477 Order - will revamp the 477 data collection process and information.   
Personally this is a good thing.

RDOF - This is the next $20,400,000,000 (20.4 Billion Dollars) that will be 
spend to overbuild your network if you are not currently providing 25/3 service 
& phone.   

WISPA has time to meet with the commissioners and discuss up to the 25th.   A 
lot of effort has already gone into making sure that both of these are fair and 
open to all providers, not just the Telco’s.   There is no way to stop the feds 
from spending this money - it’s coming regardless of what we do.   Both 
political parties, the administration, and the FCC all want to spend money on 
rural broadband.  

YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR PART to either position yourself to receive this funding, 
or prevent your competitors from getting it and overbuilding you.

Mark

Mark Radabaugh
WISPA Policy Committee Chair
419-261-5996

> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: "Coran, Steve via PolicyCommittee" 
> Subject: [PolicyCommittee] Draft Items for August 1 FCC Meeting
> Date: July 11, 2019 at 5:48:29 PM EDT
> To: "'policycommit...@wispa.org'" 
> Reply-To: "Coran, Steve" , 
> 
> 
> Just released, below are links to draft items of interest for the FCC’s 
> August 1 open meeting.  We have the opportunity to meet with the 
> Commissioners until the afternoon of July 25.  Would appreciate the 
> Committee’s input on these soon.  Just released, and I have not had a chance 
> to review these yet.
>  
> DRAFT Form 477 Order + FNPRM: 
> https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-358433A1.pdf 
> 
> DRAFT RDOF NPRM: https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-358432A1.pdf 
> 
>  
> Stephen E. Coran
> Lerman Senter PLLC  |2001 L Street, NW, Suite 
> 400 | Washington, DC 20036
> 202-416-6744 (o) | 202-669-3288 (m) | sco...@lermansenter.com 
>   |@stevecoran – twitter
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