Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: I wanted to follow up on this. I swapped a 750 out for a RB/600 the other day, and now my packet loss problems have gone away. Must be a problem with incompatibility to a MikroTik. RB-600 has GigE interfaces, while RB-750 has FastE. Seems like a negotiation issue, a strange one as Ubiquiti is also Fast-E. Or maybe UBNT changed this ? The chipset they use on the M family is Gig-E capable. Rubens WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M
But even if they enabled Gig Ethernet then it would not link at 1000Mb. Gig Ethernet requires all eight pairs to transmit the data, but only the four required to transmit Fast Ethernet are available. To be able to use Gig Ethernet they would have to switch the PoE to 802.3af. On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Rubens Kuhl rube...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: I wanted to follow up on this. I swapped a 750 out for a RB/600 the other day, and now my packet loss problems have gone away. Must be a problem with incompatibility to a MikroTik. RB-600 has GigE interfaces, while RB-750 has FastE. Seems like a negotiation issue, a strange one as Ubiquiti is also Fast-E. Or maybe UBNT changed this ? The chipset they use on the M family is Gig-E capable. Rubens WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M
http://ubnt.com/8023af that should help On Sep 28, 2010, at 10:36 PM, Philip Dorr wrote: But even if they enabled Gig Ethernet then it would not link at 1000Mb. Gig Ethernet requires all eight pairs to transmit the data, but only the four required to transmit Fast Ethernet are available. To be able to use Gig Ethernet they would have to switch the PoE to 802.3af. On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Rubens Kuhl rube...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: I wanted to follow up on this. I swapped a 750 out for a RB/600 the other day, and now my packet loss problems have gone away. Must be a problem with incompatibility to a MikroTik. RB-600 has GigE interfaces, while RB-750 has FastE. Seems like a negotiation issue, a strange one as Ubiquiti is also Fast-E. Or maybe UBNT changed this ? The chipset they use on the M family is Gig-E capable. Rubens WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M
That will not make the link from the adapter to the radio gige capable since the it will be putting out 24v on the power pins just like now. On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote: http://ubnt.com/8023af that should help On Sep 28, 2010, at 10:36 PM, Philip Dorr wrote: But even if they enabled Gig Ethernet then it would not link at 1000Mb. Gig Ethernet requires all eight pairs to transmit the data, but only the four required to transmit Fast Ethernet are available. To be able to use Gig Ethernet they would have to switch the PoE to 802.3af. On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Rubens Kuhl rube...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: I wanted to follow up on this. I swapped a 750 out for a RB/600 the other day, and now my packet loss problems have gone away. Must be a problem with incompatibility to a MikroTik. RB-600 has GigE interfaces, while RB-750 has FastE. Seems like a negotiation issue, a strange one as Ubiquiti is also Fast-E. Or maybe UBNT changed this ? The chipset they use on the M family is Gig-E capable. Rubens WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M
Chuck, I dont have any Rockets directly plugged into a Mikrotik box. I am considering a bench test though. Will advise if I do. I routinely lock down the port to 100Mbps. -RickG On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: Rick: Since I know you have MikroTik in your network, do you have any that have a Rocket plugged into them? If you do, open up Winbox, go to tools, Ping. Change the timeout to 100, and ping your rocket. Do you have any lost packets? We're seeing 2-7% packet loss. Are you using 100mbit? Through the air, everything is fine. I'm getting good speeds, but when it goes through the Rocket, and onto the AP, I'm seeing lots of packet loss. Regards, Chuck On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:22 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Here is my interface stats: XM.v5.2# ifconfig ath0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:18:1B:97 UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC ALLMULTI MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:1704984 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:2180287 errors:0 dropped:813 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:200 RX bytes:430972687 (411.0 MiB) TX bytes:2053965333 (1.9 GiB) br0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:18:1B:97 inet addr:10.10.100.29 Bcast:10.10.100.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING ALLMULTI MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:187903 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:5865 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:18303057 (17.4 MiB) TX bytes:566985 (553.6 KiB) eth0_real Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:19:1B:97 UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:2171167 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1704486 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:500 RX bytes:2053358505 (1.9 GiB) TX bytes:431157904 (411.1 MiB) eth1_real Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 02:15:6D:19:1B:97 UP BROADCAST PROMISC MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:500 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:1 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:89 (89.0 B) TX bytes:89 (89.0 B) wifi0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:18:1B:97 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:11 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:511 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) Interrupt:48 Memory:b000-b001 XM.v5.2# On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: I'm just happy that I'm not the only one with this problem. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: Justin the power supply is outputting 15.3 Vdc as far as the other MT on the tower see. *Steve Barnes* General Manager PCS-WIN http://www.pcswin.com/ RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service http://www.rcwifi.com/ *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Justin Wilson *Sent:* Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:30 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M In our case we had a switch we put “inline” and that made no difference. I figured it might have been an issue with the 493G board. We used to see issues with Tranzeo and 450Gs so I figured it might be similar. Putting the switch in did not help. Cable run is only about 20 feet. It is being powered by a 12 Volt power supply instead of 24. Other devices on the tower are able to get good speeds to the Mikortik. Some theories at the moment: 1.When the radio transmits it draws enough power away from the ethernet chipset to cause issues. 2.The unit really does need 24volt (or higher than 12 at least) 3.The Unit itself has an issue with the ethernet port. 4.Mikrotik board has an issue. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog – xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw – Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting – Tower Climbing – Network Support -- *From: *Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com *Reply-To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Date: *Wed, 8 Sep 2010 10:11:48 -0400 *To: *fai...@snappydsl.net, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M
Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M
mailto:st...@pcswin.com mailto:st...@pcswin.com wrote: Justin the power supply is outputting 15.3 Vdc as far as the other MT on the tower see. *Steve Barnes* General Manager PCS-WIN http://www.pcswin.com/ RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service http://www.rcwifi.com/ *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Justin Wilson *Sent:* Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:30 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M In our case we had a switch we put “inline” and that made no difference. I figured it might have been an issue with the 493G board. We used to see issues with Tranzeo and 450Gs so I figured it might be similar. Putting the switch in did not help. Cable run is only about 20 feet. It is being powered by a 12 Volt power supply instead of 24. Other devices on the tower are able to get good speeds to the Mikortik. Some theories at the moment: 1.When the radio transmits it draws enough power away from the ethernet chipset to cause issues. 2.The unit really does need 24volt (or higher than 12 at least) 3.The Unit itself has an issue with the ethernet port. 4.Mikrotik board has an issue. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net mailto:j...@mtin.net http://j...@mtin.net http://mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog – xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw – Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting – Tower Climbing – Network Support *From: *Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com http://ch...@shelbybb.com http://shelbybb.com *Reply-To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org http://wireless@wispa.org http://wispa.org *Date: *Wed, 8 Sep 2010 10:11:48 -0400 *To: *fai...@snappydsl.net mailto:fai...@snappydsl.net http://fai...@snappydsl.net http://snappydsl.net, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org http://wireless@wispa.org http://wispa.org *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M I'm running AirOS V5.2.1-RC2 (which is the latest as of yesterday) It happened with the factory firmware and the RC1 as well. The issue also occurs with my laptop running btest or any type of ping flood. I have 6 cat5 runs up one of the towers, Motorola works fine and I have switched cables, different manufacturer as well. Same issue. When I use the air test from the UBNT device it works fine. When I plug a laptop in on each side, I get the same results. No bandwidth shaping. Have tried multiple different devices on each side, the only thing that works is an expensive Managed Dell Switch. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net mailto:fai...@snappydsl.net http://fai...@snappydsl.net http://snappydsl.net wrote: Is it possible to change and test to see if it the Radios's or the MK493ah that is root cause of this issue. Also, do you get the same results when you run the test from one side or the other ? Could you have some Bandwidth Shaping in place ? do you have another Mikrotik eg. 750g that you could plug int one side to see if that makes a difference ? (I have Rocket M5's
Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M
Rick: Since I know you have MikroTik in your network, do you have any that have a Rocket plugged into them? If you do, open up Winbox, go to tools, Ping. Change the timeout to 100, and ping your rocket. Do you have any lost packets? We're seeing 2-7% packet loss. Are you using 100mbit? Through the air, everything is fine. I'm getting good speeds, but when it goes through the Rocket, and onto the AP, I'm seeing lots of packet loss. Regards, Chuck On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:22 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Here is my interface stats: XM.v5.2# ifconfig ath0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:18:1B:97 UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC ALLMULTI MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:1704984 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:2180287 errors:0 dropped:813 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:200 RX bytes:430972687 (411.0 MiB) TX bytes:2053965333 (1.9 GiB) br0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:18:1B:97 inet addr:10.10.100.29 Bcast:10.10.100.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING ALLMULTI MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:187903 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:5865 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:18303057 (17.4 MiB) TX bytes:566985 (553.6 KiB) eth0_real Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:19:1B:97 UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:2171167 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1704486 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:500 RX bytes:2053358505 (1.9 GiB) TX bytes:431157904 (411.1 MiB) eth1_real Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 02:15:6D:19:1B:97 UP BROADCAST PROMISC MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:500 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:1 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:89 (89.0 B) TX bytes:89 (89.0 B) wifi0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:18:1B:97 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:11 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:511 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) Interrupt:48 Memory:b000-b001 XM.v5.2# On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: I'm just happy that I'm not the only one with this problem. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: Justin the power supply is outputting 15.3 Vdc as far as the other MT on the tower see. *Steve Barnes* General Manager PCS-WIN http://www.pcswin.com/ RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service http://www.rcwifi.com/ *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Justin Wilson *Sent:* Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:30 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M In our case we had a switch we put “inline” and that made no difference. I figured it might have been an issue with the 493G board. We used to see issues with Tranzeo and 450Gs so I figured it might be similar. Putting the switch in did not help. Cable run is only about 20 feet. It is being powered by a 12 Volt power supply instead of 24. Other devices on the tower are able to get good speeds to the Mikortik. Some theories at the moment: 1.When the radio transmits it draws enough power away from the ethernet chipset to cause issues. 2.The unit really does need 24volt (or higher than 12 at least) 3.The Unit itself has an issue with the ethernet port. 4.Mikrotik board has an issue. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog – xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw – Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting – Tower Climbing – Network Support -- *From: *Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com *Reply-To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Date: *Wed, 8 Sep 2010 10:11:48 -0400 *To: *fai...@snappydsl.net, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M I'm running AirOS V5.2.1-RC2 (which is the latest as of yesterday) It happened with the factory firmware and the RC1 as well. The issue also occurs with my laptop running btest or any type of ping flood. I have 6 cat5 runs up one of the towers, Motorola
Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M
I have Mikrotik 750 / 750G, with Multiple Rocket M5 for a typical POP.. I am not getting any packet loss, when doing pings from the MK to Rocket M5, with the timeout changed to 100. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 9/11/2010 8:52 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: Rick: Since I know you have MikroTik in your network, do you have any that have a Rocket plugged into them? If you do, open up Winbox, go to tools, Ping. Change the timeout to 100, and ping your rocket. Do you have any lost packets? We're seeing 2-7% packet loss. Are you using 100mbit? Through the air, everything is fine. I'm getting good speeds, but when it goes through the Rocket, and onto the AP, I'm seeing lots of packet loss. Regards, Chuck On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:22 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Here is my interface stats: XM.v5.2# ifconfig ath0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:18:1B:97 UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC ALLMULTI MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:1704984 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:2180287 errors:0 dropped:813 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:200 RX bytes:430972687 (411.0 MiB) TX bytes:2053965333 (1.9 GiB) br0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:18:1B:97 inet addr:10.10.100.29 Bcast:10.10.100.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING ALLMULTI MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:187903 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:5865 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:18303057 (17.4 MiB) TX bytes:566985 (553.6 KiB) eth0_real Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:19:1B:97 UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:2171167 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1704486 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:500 RX bytes:2053358505 (1.9 GiB) TX bytes:431157904 (411.1 MiB) eth1_real Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 02:15:6D:19:1B:97 UP BROADCAST PROMISC MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:500 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:1 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:89 (89.0 B) TX bytes:89 (89.0 B) wifi0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:18:1B:97 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:11 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:511 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) Interrupt:48 Memory:b000-b001 XM.v5.2# On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: I'm just happy that I'm not the only one with this problem. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com mailto:st...@pcswin.com wrote: Justin the power supply is outputting 15.3 Vdc as far as the other MT on the tower see. *Steve Barnes* General Manager PCS-WIN http://www.pcswin.com/ RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service http://www.rcwifi.com/ *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Justin Wilson *Sent:* Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:30 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M In our case we had a switch we put “inline” and that made no difference. I figured it might have been an issue with the 493G board. We used to see issues with Tranzeo and 450Gs so I figured it might be similar. Putting the switch in did not help. Cable run is only about 20 feet. It is being powered by a 12 Volt power supply instead of 24. Other devices on the tower are able to get good speeds to the Mikortik. Some theories at the moment
Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M
Here is my interface stats: XM.v5.2# ifconfig ath0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:18:1B:97 UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC ALLMULTI MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:1704984 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:2180287 errors:0 dropped:813 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:200 RX bytes:430972687 (411.0 MiB) TX bytes:2053965333 (1.9 GiB) br0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:18:1B:97 inet addr:10.10.100.29 Bcast:10.10.100.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING ALLMULTI MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:187903 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:5865 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:18303057 (17.4 MiB) TX bytes:566985 (553.6 KiB) eth0_real Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:19:1B:97 UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:2171167 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1704486 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:500 RX bytes:2053358505 (1.9 GiB) TX bytes:431157904 (411.1 MiB) eth1_real Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 02:15:6D:19:1B:97 UP BROADCAST PROMISC MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:500 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:1 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:89 (89.0 B) TX bytes:89 (89.0 B) wifi0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:18:1B:97 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:11 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:511 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) Interrupt:48 Memory:b000-b001 XM.v5.2# On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: I'm just happy that I'm not the only one with this problem. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: Justin the power supply is outputting 15.3 Vdc as far as the other MT on the tower see. *Steve Barnes* General Manager PCS-WIN http://www.pcswin.com/ RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service http://www.rcwifi.com/ *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Justin Wilson *Sent:* Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:30 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M In our case we had a switch we put “inline” and that made no difference. I figured it might have been an issue with the 493G board. We used to see issues with Tranzeo and 450Gs so I figured it might be similar. Putting the switch in did not help. Cable run is only about 20 feet. It is being powered by a 12 Volt power supply instead of 24. Other devices on the tower are able to get good speeds to the Mikortik. Some theories at the moment: 1.When the radio transmits it draws enough power away from the ethernet chipset to cause issues. 2.The unit really does need 24volt (or higher than 12 at least) 3.The Unit itself has an issue with the ethernet port. 4.Mikrotik board has an issue. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog – xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw – Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting – Tower Climbing – Network Support -- *From: *Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com *Reply-To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Date: *Wed, 8 Sep 2010 10:11:48 -0400 *To: *fai...@snappydsl.net, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M I'm running AirOS V5.2.1-RC2 (which is the latest as of yesterday) It happened with the factory firmware and the RC1 as well. The issue also occurs with my laptop running btest or any type of ping flood. I have 6 cat5 runs up one of the towers, Motorola works fine and I have switched cables, different manufacturer as well. Same issue. When I use the air test from the UBNT device it works fine. When I plug a laptop in on each side, I get the same results. No bandwidth shaping. Have tried multiple different devices on each side, the only thing that works is an expensive Managed Dell Switch. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Is it possible to change and test to see if it the Radios's or the MK493ah that is root cause of this issue. Also, do
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Welcome to my world.. RickG wrote: I climbed a 400' tower where the cell companies put cables over all 3 faces. I felt like Tarzan the monkey man climbing on vines. Man, that ticked me off! On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net mailto:li...@mtin.net wrote: I was not happy after climbing a tower where the cell company put their feedlines in front of the safety climb! Hehe. Would have been better if the UBNT had worked correctly. Oh well, part of being in the WISP industry. :-) -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog – xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw – Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting – Tower Climbing – Network Support *From: *Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com http://ch...@shelbybb.com *Reply-To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org http://wireless@wispa.org *Date: *Wed, 8 Sep 2010 15:04:40 -0400 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org http://wireless@wispa.org *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M I'm just happy that I'm not the only one with this problem. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com http://st...@pcswin.com wrote: Justin the power supply is outputting 15.3 Vdc as far as the other MT on the tower see. *Steve Barnes *General Manager PCS-WIN http://www.pcswin.com/ RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service http://www.rcwifi.com/ *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org http://wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Justin Wilson *Sent:* Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:30 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M In our case we had a switch we put “inline” and that made no difference. I figured it might have been an issue with the 493G board. We used to see issues with Tranzeo and 450Gs so I figured it might be similar. Putting the switch in did not help. Cable run is only about 20 feet. It is being powered by a 12 Volt power supply instead of 24. Other devices on the tower are able to get good speeds to the Mikortik. Some theories at the moment: 1.When the radio transmits it draws enough power away from the ethernet chipset to cause issues. 2.The unit really does need 24volt (or higher than 12 at least) 3.The Unit itself has an issue with the ethernet port. 4.Mikrotik board has an issue. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://j...@mtin.net http://j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog – xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw – Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting – Tower Climbing – Network Support *From: *Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com http://ch...@shelbybb.com http://ch...@shelbybb.com *Reply-To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org http://wireless@wispa.org http://wireless@wispa.org *Date: *Wed, 8 Sep 2010 10:11:48 -0400 *To: *fai...@snappydsl.net http://fai...@snappydsl.net http://fai...@snappydsl.net , WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org http://wireless@wispa.org http://wireless@wispa.org *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M I'm running AirOS V5.2.1-RC2 (which is the latest as of yesterday) It happened with the factory firmware and the RC1 as well. The issue also occurs with my laptop running btest or any type of ping flood. I have 6 cat5 runs up one of the towers, Motorola works fine and I have switched cables, different manufacturer as well. Same issue. When I use the air test from the UBNT device it works fine. When I plug a laptop in on each side, I get the same results. No bandwidth shaping. Have tried multiple different devices on each side, the only thing that works is an expensive Managed Dell Switch. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net http://fai...@snappydsl.net http://fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Is it possible to change and test to see if it the Radios's or the MK493ah that is root cause of this issue. Also, do you get the same results when you run the test from one side or the other ? Could you have some Bandwidth Shaping in place ? do you have another Mikrotik eg
Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M
I'm running AirOS V5.2.1-RC2 (which is the latest as of yesterday) It happened with the factory firmware and the RC1 as well. The issue also occurs with my laptop running btest or any type of ping flood. I have 6 cat5 runs up one of the towers, Motorola works fine and I have switched cables, different manufacturer as well. Same issue. When I use the air test from the UBNT device it works fine. When I plug a laptop in on each side, I get the same results. No bandwidth shaping. Have tried multiple different devices on each side, the only thing that works is an expensive Managed Dell Switch. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Is it possible to change and test to see if it the Radios's or the MK493ah that is root cause of this issue. Also, do you get the same results when you run the test from one side or the other ? Could you have some Bandwidth Shaping in place ? do you have another Mikrotik eg. 750g that you could plug int one side to see if that makes a difference ? (I have Rocket M5's working on MK750 MK750g.. no issues... Another suggestion to try is .. change the firmware to the 3x train on the MK493ah board and see if you get the same results.. Got to narrow down further... Do both sides of the link (I am assuming both sides have a MK router ), showing similar behavior between the Rocket Mk Router ? Just for kicks, you can update the firmware to 5.2.1 beta 3... (get it from the UBNT Forum) and see if the results change.. if they don' then ... pretty sure it is not a radio side issue Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 9/7/2010 10:50 PM, Steve Barnes wrote: Set all to Auto Neg and no change Here is SSH report XM.v5.2# /bin/ifconfig ath0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:60:92:85 UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC ALLMULTI MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:965042 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:713224 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:200 RX bytes:1138023050 (1.0 GiB) TX bytes:100227281 (95.5 MiB) br0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:60:92:85 inet addr:10.10.2.179 Bcast:10.10.2.183 Mask:255.255.255.248 UP BROADCAST RUNNING ALLMULTI MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:7089 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:7162 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:1499867 (1.4 MiB) TX bytes:3939545 (3.7 MiB) br0:0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:60:92:85 inet addr:169.254.146.133 Bcast:169.254.255.255 Mask:255.255.0.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING ALLMULTI MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 eth0_real Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:61:92:85 UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:708537 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:959167 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:500 RX bytes:96555669 (92.0 MiB) TX bytes:1136564610 (1.0 GiB) Steve Barnes Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 7:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M What is the Firmware you are running on the PowerBridges ? and what are the signal levels... on Chain 0 / Chain 1 ..Also Make sure the MTU / L2MTU on the Mikrotik are 1500/1524 Try to auto negotiation on the ports on both the Mikrotik PBM5 also, ssh into the PBM5 use /bin/ifconfig command to see if there are any errors on the Ethernet Port and duplex mismatch ? Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 9/7/2010 6:44 PM, Steve Barnes wrote: I changed out a StarOS backhaul with a pair of PowerBridge 5M radios, 4 mile link. I Have an odd issue. The link is perfect 130MB 99% Airmax. UBNT Speed test from radio to radio is 84Mb. Now the interesting issue, both radios are plugged in to MT 493AH 4.11 OS. Running MT Bandwidth test from MT to MT TCP speeds are horrible. 14 Mb Dn and 6 Mb Upload. We tried all kinds of tests finally realized (after the climber was on the ground and in my office) that if I do a speed test from the PowerBridge station to a Rocket plugged into the same Mikrotik that I get 14 Mb x 6 Mb through a 100% wired connection (UBNT to Port-2 MT, Port-6 to UBNT Rocket) We had tried different ports to no avail and I test from MT AP thru MT 493AH to 2^nd MT AP and I got 50 Mb x 50Mb. Then I realized
Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M
In our case we had a switch we put ³inline² and that made no difference. I figured it might have been an issue with the 493G board. We used to see issues with Tranzeo and 450Gs so I figured it might be similar. Putting the switch in did not help. Cable run is only about 20 feet. It is being powered by a 12 Volt power supply instead of 24. Other devices on the tower are able to get good speeds to the Mikortik. Some theories at the moment: 1.When the radio transmits it draws enough power away from the ethernet chipset to cause issues. 2.The unit really does need 24volt (or higher than 12 at least) 3.The Unit itself has an issue with the ethernet port. 4.Mikrotik board has an issue. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 10:11:48 -0400 To: fai...@snappydsl.net, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M I'm running AirOS V5.2.1-RC2 (which is the latest as of yesterday) It happened with the factory firmware and the RC1 as well. The issue also occurs with my laptop running btest or any type of ping flood. I have 6 cat5 runs up one of the towers, Motorola works fine and I have switched cables, different manufacturer as well. Same issue. When I use the air test from the UBNT device it works fine. When I plug a laptop in on each side, I get the same results. No bandwidth shaping. Have tried multiple different devices on each side, the only thing that works is an expensive Managed Dell Switch. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Is it possible to change and test to see if it the Radios's or the MK493ah that is root cause of this issue. Also, do you get the same results when you run the test from one side or the other ? Could you have some Bandwidth Shaping in place ? do you have another Mikrotik eg. 750g that you could plug int one side to see if that makes a difference ? (I have Rocket M5's working on MK750 MK750g.. no issues... Another suggestion to try is .. change the firmware to the 3x train on the MK493ah board and see if you get the same results.. Got to narrow down further... Do both sides of the link (I am assuming both sides have a MK router ), showing similar behavior between the Rocket Mk Router ? Just for kicks, you can update the firmware to 5.2.1 beta 3... (get it from the UBNT Forum) and see if the results change.. if they don' then ... pretty sure it is not a radio side issue Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 9/7/2010 10:50 PM, Steve Barnes wrote: Set all to Auto Neg and no change Here is SSH report XM.v5.2# /bin/ifconfig ath0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:60:92:85 UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC ALLMULTI MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:965042 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:713224 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:200 RX bytes:1138023050 (1.0 GiB) TX bytes:100227281 (95.5 MiB) br0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:60:92:85 inet addr:10.10.2.179 Bcast:10.10.2.183 Mask:255.255.255.248 UP BROADCAST RUNNING ALLMULTI MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:7089 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:7162 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:1499867 (1.4 MiB) TX bytes:3939545 (3.7 MiB) br0:0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:60:92:85 inet addr:169.254.146.133 Bcast:169.254.255.255 Mask:255.255.0.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING ALLMULTI MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 eth0_real Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:61:92:85 UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:708537 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:959167 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:500 RX bytes:96555669 (92.0 MiB) TX bytes:1136564610 (1.0 GiB) Steve Barnes Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 7:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M What is the Firmware you are running on the PowerBridges ? and what are the signal levels... on Chain 0 / Chain 1 ..Also Make sure the MTU / L2MTU on the Mikrotik are 1500/1524 Try to auto negotiation on the ports on both the Mikrotik PBM5 also, ssh into the PBM5 use /bin/ifconfig
Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M
Justin the power supply is outputting 15.3 Vdc as far as the other MT on the tower see. Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WINhttp://www.pcswin.com/ RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Servicehttp://www.rcwifi.com/ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Justin Wilson Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M In our case we had a switch we put inline and that made no difference. I figured it might have been an issue with the 493G board. We used to see issues with Tranzeo and 450Gs so I figured it might be similar. Putting the switch in did not help. Cable run is only about 20 feet. It is being powered by a 12 Volt power supply instead of 24. Other devices on the tower are able to get good speeds to the Mikortik. Some theories at the moment: 1.When the radio transmits it draws enough power away from the ethernet chipset to cause issues. 2.The unit really does need 24volt (or higher than 12 at least) 3.The Unit itself has an issue with the ethernet port. 4.Mikrotik board has an issue. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog - xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw - Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting - Tower Climbing - Network Support From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 10:11:48 -0400 To: fai...@snappydsl.net, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M I'm running AirOS V5.2.1-RC2 (which is the latest as of yesterday) It happened with the factory firmware and the RC1 as well. The issue also occurs with my laptop running btest or any type of ping flood. I have 6 cat5 runs up one of the towers, Motorola works fine and I have switched cables, different manufacturer as well. Same issue. When I use the air test from the UBNT device it works fine. When I plug a laptop in on each side, I get the same results. No bandwidth shaping. Have tried multiple different devices on each side, the only thing that works is an expensive Managed Dell Switch. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Is it possible to change and test to see if it the Radios's or the MK493ah that is root cause of this issue. Also, do you get the same results when you run the test from one side or the other ? Could you have some Bandwidth Shaping in place ? do you have another Mikrotik eg. 750g that you could plug int one side to see if that makes a difference ? (I have Rocket M5's working on MK750 MK750g.. no issues... Another suggestion to try is .. change the firmware to the 3x train on the MK493ah board and see if you get the same results.. Got to narrow down further... Do both sides of the link (I am assuming both sides have a MK router ), showing similar behavior between the Rocket Mk Router ? Just for kicks, you can update the firmware to 5.2.1 beta 3... (get it from the UBNT Forum) and see if the results change.. if they don' then ... pretty sure it is not a radio side issue Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 9/7/2010 10:50 PM, Steve Barnes wrote: Set all to Auto Neg and no change Here is SSH report XM.v5.2# /bin/ifconfig ath0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:60:92:85 UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC ALLMULTI MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:965042 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:713224 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:200 RX bytes:1138023050 (1.0 GiB) TX bytes:100227281 (95.5 MiB) br0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:60:92:85 inet addr:10.10.2.179 Bcast:10.10.2.183 Mask:255.255.255.248 UP BROADCAST RUNNING ALLMULTI MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:7089 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:7162 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:1499867 (1.4 MiB) TX bytes:3939545 (3.7 MiB) br0:0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:60:92:85 inet addr:169.254.146.133 Bcast:169.254.255.255 Mask:255.255.0.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING ALLMULTI MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 eth0_real Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:61:92:85 UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:708537 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:959167 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:500 RX bytes:96555669 (92.0 MiB) TX bytes:1136564610 (1.0 GiB) Steve Barnes Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 7:31 PM
Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M
I'm just happy that I'm not the only one with this problem. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: Justin the power supply is outputting 15.3 Vdc as far as the other MT on the tower see. *Steve Barnes* General Manager PCS-WIN http://www.pcswin.com/ RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service http://www.rcwifi.com/ *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Justin Wilson *Sent:* Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:30 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M In our case we had a switch we put “inline” and that made no difference. I figured it might have been an issue with the 493G board. We used to see issues with Tranzeo and 450Gs so I figured it might be similar. Putting the switch in did not help. Cable run is only about 20 feet. It is being powered by a 12 Volt power supply instead of 24. Other devices on the tower are able to get good speeds to the Mikortik. Some theories at the moment: 1.When the radio transmits it draws enough power away from the ethernet chipset to cause issues. 2.The unit really does need 24volt (or higher than 12 at least) 3.The Unit itself has an issue with the ethernet port. 4.Mikrotik board has an issue. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog – xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw – Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting – Tower Climbing – Network Support -- *From: *Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com *Reply-To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Date: *Wed, 8 Sep 2010 10:11:48 -0400 *To: *fai...@snappydsl.net, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M I'm running AirOS V5.2.1-RC2 (which is the latest as of yesterday) It happened with the factory firmware and the RC1 as well. The issue also occurs with my laptop running btest or any type of ping flood. I have 6 cat5 runs up one of the towers, Motorola works fine and I have switched cables, different manufacturer as well. Same issue. When I use the air test from the UBNT device it works fine. When I plug a laptop in on each side, I get the same results. No bandwidth shaping. Have tried multiple different devices on each side, the only thing that works is an expensive Managed Dell Switch. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Is it possible to change and test to see if it the Radios's or the MK493ah that is root cause of this issue. Also, do you get the same results when you run the test from one side or the other ? Could you have some Bandwidth Shaping in place ? do you have another Mikrotik eg. 750g that you could plug int one side to see if that makes a difference ? (I have Rocket M5's working on MK750 MK750g.. no issues... Another suggestion to try is .. change the firmware to the 3x train on the MK493ah board and see if you get the same results.. Got to narrow down further... Do both sides of the link (I am assuming both sides have a MK router ), showing similar behavior between the Rocket Mk Router ? Just for kicks, you can update the firmware to 5.2.1 beta 3... (get it from the UBNT Forum) and see if the results change.. if they don' then ... pretty sure it is not a radio side issue Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 9/7/2010 10:50 PM, Steve Barnes wrote: Set all to Auto Neg and no change Here is SSH report XM.v5.2# /bin/ifconfig ath0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:60:92:85 UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC ALLMULTI MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:965042 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:713224 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:200 RX bytes:1138023050 (1.0 GiB) TX bytes:100227281 (95.5 MiB) br0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:60:92:85 inet addr:10.10.2.179 Bcast:10.10.2.183 Mask:255.255.255.248 UP BROADCAST RUNNING ALLMULTI MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:7089 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:7162 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:1499867 (1.4 MiB) TX bytes:3939545 (3.7 MiB) br0:0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:60:92:85 inet addr:169.254.146.133 Bcast:169.254.255.255 Mask:255.255.0.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING ALLMULTI MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 eth0_real Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:61:92:85 UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:708537 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:959167 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:500 RX bytes:96555669 (92.0 MiB) TX
Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M
I was not happy after climbing a tower where the cell company put their feedlines in front of the safety climb! Hehe. Would have been better if the UBNT had worked correctly. Oh well, part of being in the WISP industry. :-) -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 15:04:40 -0400 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M I'm just happy that I'm not the only one with this problem. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: Justin the power supply is outputting 15.3 Vdc as far as the other MT on the tower see. Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN http://www.pcswin.com/ RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service http://www.rcwifi.com/ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Justin Wilson Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M In our case we had a switch we put ³inline² and that made no difference. I figured it might have been an issue with the 493G board. We used to see issues with Tranzeo and 450Gs so I figured it might be similar. Putting the switch in did not help. Cable run is only about 20 feet. It is being powered by a 12 Volt power supply instead of 24. Other devices on the tower are able to get good speeds to the Mikortik. Some theories at the moment: 1.When the radio transmits it draws enough power away from the ethernet chipset to cause issues. 2.The unit really does need 24volt (or higher than 12 at least) 3.The Unit itself has an issue with the ethernet port. 4.Mikrotik board has an issue. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com http://ch...@shelbybb.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org http://wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 10:11:48 -0400 To: fai...@snappydsl.net http://fai...@snappydsl.net , WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org http://wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M I'm running AirOS V5.2.1-RC2 (which is the latest as of yesterday) It happened with the factory firmware and the RC1 as well. The issue also occurs with my laptop running btest or any type of ping flood. I have 6 cat5 runs up one of the towers, Motorola works fine and I have switched cables, different manufacturer as well. Same issue. When I use the air test from the UBNT device it works fine. When I plug a laptop in on each side, I get the same results. No bandwidth shaping. Have tried multiple different devices on each side, the only thing that works is an expensive Managed Dell Switch. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net http://fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Is it possible to change and test to see if it the Radios's or the MK493ah that is root cause of this issue. Also, do you get the same results when you run the test from one side or the other ? Could you have some Bandwidth Shaping in place ? do you have another Mikrotik eg. 750g that you could plug int one side to see if that makes a difference ? (I have Rocket M5's working on MK750 MK750g.. no issues... Another suggestion to try is .. change the firmware to the 3x train on the MK493ah board and see if you get the same results.. Got to narrow down further... Do both sides of the link (I am assuming both sides have a MK router ), showing similar behavior between the Rocket Mk Router ? Just for kicks, you can update the firmware to 5.2.1 beta 3... (get it from the UBNT Forum) and see if the results change.. if they don' then ... pretty sure it is not a radio side issue Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 9/7/2010 10:50 PM, Steve Barnes wrote: Set all to Auto Neg and no change Here is SSH report XM.v5.2# /bin/ifconfig ath0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:60:92:85 UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC ALLMULTI MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:965042 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:713224 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:200 RX bytes:1138023050 (1.0 GiB) TX bytes:100227281 (95.5 MiB) br0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:60:92:85 inet addr:10.10.2.179 Bcast:10.10.2.183 Mask:255.255.255.248 UP BROADCAST RUNNING ALLMULTI MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:7089 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M
I climbed a 400' tower where the cell companies put cables over all 3 faces. I felt like Tarzan the monkey man climbing on vines. Man, that ticked me off! On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote: I was not happy after climbing a tower where the cell company put their feedlines in front of the safety climb! Hehe. Would have been better if the UBNT had worked correctly. Oh well, part of being in the WISP industry. :-) -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog – xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw – Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting – Tower Climbing – Network Support -- *From: *Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com *Reply-To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Date: *Wed, 8 Sep 2010 15:04:40 -0400 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M I'm just happy that I'm not the only one with this problem. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: Justin the power supply is outputting 15.3 Vdc as far as the other MT on the tower see. *Steve Barnes *General Manager PCS-WIN http://www.pcswin.com/ RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service http://www.rcwifi.com/ *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Justin Wilson *Sent:* Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:30 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M In our case we had a switch we put “inline” and that made no difference. I figured it might have been an issue with the 493G board. We used to see issues with Tranzeo and 450Gs so I figured it might be similar. Putting the switch in did not help. Cable run is only about 20 feet. It is being powered by a 12 Volt power supply instead of 24. Other devices on the tower are able to get good speeds to the Mikortik. Some theories at the moment: 1.When the radio transmits it draws enough power away from the ethernet chipset to cause issues. 2.The unit really does need 24volt (or higher than 12 at least) 3.The Unit itself has an issue with the ethernet port. 4.Mikrotik board has an issue. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog – xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw – Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting – Tower Climbing – Network Support -- *From: *Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com http://ch...@shelbybb.com *Reply-To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org http://wireless@wispa.org *Date: *Wed, 8 Sep 2010 10:11:48 -0400 *To: *fai...@snappydsl.net http://fai...@snappydsl.net , WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org http://wireless@wispa.org *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M I'm running AirOS V5.2.1-RC2 (which is the latest as of yesterday) It happened with the factory firmware and the RC1 as well. The issue also occurs with my laptop running btest or any type of ping flood. I have 6 cat5 runs up one of the towers, Motorola works fine and I have switched cables, different manufacturer as well. Same issue. When I use the air test from the UBNT device it works fine. When I plug a laptop in on each side, I get the same results. No bandwidth shaping. Have tried multiple different devices on each side, the only thing that works is an expensive Managed Dell Switch. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net http://fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Is it possible to change and test to see if it the Radios's or the MK493ah that is root cause of this issue. Also, do you get the same results when you run the test from one side or the other ? Could you have some Bandwidth Shaping in place ? do you have another Mikrotik eg. 750g that you could plug int one side to see if that makes a difference ? (I have Rocket M5's working on MK750 MK750g.. no issues... Another suggestion to try is .. change the firmware to the 3x train on the MK493ah board and see if you get the same results.. Got to narrow down further... Do both sides of the link (I am assuming both sides have a MK router ), showing similar behavior between the Rocket Mk Router ? Just for kicks, you can update the firmware to 5.2.1 beta 3... (get it from the UBNT Forum) and see if the results change.. if they don' then ... pretty sure it is not a radio side issue Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 9/7/2010 10:50 PM, Steve Barnes wrote: Set all to Auto Neg and no change Here is SSH report XM.v5.2# /bin/ifconfig ath0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:60:92:85 UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC ALLMULTI MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:965042 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:713224 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:200 RX bytes
Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M
Hehe... So at what point did you figure out that they were trying to keep folks like you away from their towers ! :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 9/8/2010 11:10 PM, RickG wrote: I climbed a 400' tower where the cell companies put cables over all 3 faces. I felt like Tarzan the monkey man climbing on vines. Man, that ticked me off! On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net mailto:li...@mtin.net wrote: I was not happy after climbing a tower where the cell company put their feedlines in front of the safety climb! Hehe. Would have been better if the UBNT had worked correctly. Oh well, part of being in the WISP industry. :-) -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog – xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw – Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting – Tower Climbing – Network Support *From: *Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com http://ch...@shelbybb.com *Reply-To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org http://wireless@wispa.org *Date: *Wed, 8 Sep 2010 15:04:40 -0400 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org http://wireless@wispa.org *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M I'm just happy that I'm not the only one with this problem. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com http://st...@pcswin.com wrote: Justin the power supply is outputting 15.3 Vdc as far as the other MT on the tower see. *Steve Barnes *General Manager PCS-WIN http://www.pcswin.com/ RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service http://www.rcwifi.com/ *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org http://wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Justin Wilson *Sent:* Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:30 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M In our case we had a switch we put “inline” and that made no difference. I figured it might have been an issue with the 493G board. We used to see issues with Tranzeo and 450Gs so I figured it might be similar. Putting the switch in did not help. Cable run is only about 20 feet. It is being powered by a 12 Volt power supply instead of 24. Other devices on the tower are able to get good speeds to the Mikortik. Some theories at the moment: 1.When the radio transmits it draws enough power away from the ethernet chipset to cause issues. 2.The unit really does need 24volt (or higher than 12 at least) 3.The Unit itself has an issue with the ethernet port. 4.Mikrotik board has an issue. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://j...@mtin.net http://j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog – xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw – Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting – Tower Climbing – Network Support *From: *Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com http://ch...@shelbybb.com http://ch...@shelbybb.com *Reply-To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org http://wireless@wispa.org http://wireless@wispa.org *Date: *Wed, 8 Sep 2010 10:11:48 -0400 *To: *fai...@snappydsl.net http://fai...@snappydsl.net http://fai...@snappydsl.net , WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org http://wireless@wispa.org http://wireless@wispa.org *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M I'm running AirOS V5.2.1-RC2 (which is the latest as of yesterday) It happened with the factory firmware and the RC1 as well. The issue also occurs with my laptop running btest or any type of ping flood. I have 6 cat5 runs up one of the towers, Motorola works fine and I have switched cables, different manufacturer as well. Same issue. When I use the air test from the UBNT device it works fine. When I plug a laptop in on each side, I get the same results. No bandwidth shaping. Have tried multiple different devices on each side, the only thing that works is an expensive Managed Dell Switch. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net http://fai...@snappydsl.net http://fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Is it possible to change and test to see if it the Radios's or the MK493ah that is root cause of this issue. Also, do you get the same results when you run the test from one side or the other
Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M
Heh, good one! Actually, they tried to get me to do it again and I immeadiatley turned them down. In fact, at that point I decided to only climb for myself. I like to climb but prefer it to be in a very safe environment. It seems that many dont care about that unless its their butt hanging in the wind. On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Hehe... So at what point did you figure out that they were trying to keep folks like you away from their towers ! :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 9/8/2010 11:10 PM, RickG wrote: I climbed a 400' tower where the cell companies put cables over all 3 faces. I felt like Tarzan the monkey man climbing on vines. Man, that ticked me off! On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net mailto:li...@mtin.net wrote: I was not happy after climbing a tower where the cell company put their feedlines in front of the safety climb! Hehe. Would have been better if the UBNT had worked correctly. Oh well, part of being in the WISP industry. :-) -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog – xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw – Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting – Tower Climbing – Network Support *From: *Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com http://ch...@shelbybb.com *Reply-To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org http://wireless@wispa.org *Date: *Wed, 8 Sep 2010 15:04:40 -0400 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org http://wireless@wispa.org *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M I'm just happy that I'm not the only one with this problem. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com http://st...@pcswin.com wrote: Justin the power supply is outputting 15.3 Vdc as far as the other MT on the tower see. *Steve Barnes *General Manager PCS-WIN http://www.pcswin.com/ RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service http://www.rcwifi.com/ *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org http://wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Justin Wilson *Sent:* Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:30 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M In our case we had a switch we put “inline” and that made no difference. I figured it might have been an issue with the 493G board. We used to see issues with Tranzeo and 450Gs so I figured it might be similar. Putting the switch in did not help. Cable run is only about 20 feet. It is being powered by a 12 Volt power supply instead of 24. Other devices on the tower are able to get good speeds to the Mikortik. Some theories at the moment: 1.When the radio transmits it draws enough power away from the ethernet chipset to cause issues. 2.The unit really does need 24volt (or higher than 12 at least) 3.The Unit itself has an issue with the ethernet port. 4.Mikrotik board has an issue. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://j...@mtin.net http://j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog – xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw – Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting – Tower Climbing – Network Support *From: *Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com http://ch...@shelbybb.com http://ch...@shelbybb.com *Reply-To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org http://wireless@wispa.org http://wireless@wispa.org *Date: *Wed, 8 Sep 2010 10:11:48 -0400 *To: *fai...@snappydsl.net http://fai...@snappydsl.net http://fai...@snappydsl.net , WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org http://wireless@wispa.org http://wireless@wispa.org *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M I'm running AirOS V5.2.1-RC2 (which is the latest as of yesterday) It happened with the factory firmware and the RC1 as well. The issue also occurs with my laptop running btest or any type of ping flood. I have 6 cat5 runs up one of the towers, Motorola works fine and I have switched cables, different manufacturer as well. Same issue. When I use the air test from the UBNT device it works fine. When I plug a laptop in on each side, I get the same results. No bandwidth shaping. Have tried multiple different devices on each side, the only thing
[WISPA] PowerBridge 5M
I changed out a StarOS backhaul with a pair of PowerBridge 5M radios, 4 mile link. I Have an odd issue. The link is perfect 130MB 99% Airmax. UBNT Speed test from radio to radio is 84Mb. Now the interesting issue, both radios are plugged in to MT 493AH 4.11 OS. Running MT Bandwidth test from MT to MT TCP speeds are horrible. 14 Mb Dn and 6 Mb Upload. We tried all kinds of tests finally realized (after the climber was on the ground and in my office) that if I do a speed test from the PowerBridge station to a Rocket plugged into the same Mikrotik that I get 14 Mb x 6 Mb through a 100% wired connection (UBNT to Port-2 MT, Port-6 to UBNT Rocket) We had tried different ports to no avail and I test from MT AP thru MT 493AH to 2nd MT AP and I got 50 Mb x 50Mb. Then I realized that 2 hops across the wireless link I had a NanoBridge. A test to that across the wireless side of the link gave me a 30 Mb x 35Mb. So it come down to a single PowerBridge radio that either has a bad ethernet port or a bad POE/cable between the UBNT and MT, or some kind of incompatibility between the MT and PowerBridge. All ports are set to 100Mb FDX not Auto negotiate. This MT 493AH is relatively new with Gig option. When running speed test there are no ethernet errors or packet errors on the MT. What else can I check from the ground. Unit is 250 ft up and requires a climber I don’t have daily access to. Will the PowerBridge 5M work with 12-15 Volt. I know it wants 24VDC I don’t currently have that on this tower but had no issue with others on different towers at 12 V Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M
We saw similar problems with the ports locked at 100/FDX - Set everything to Auto and speeds were there. I posted that on the UBNT Forum, but never got an answer -Gary- - Original Message - From: Steve Barnes To: Ubiquiti Users Group ; WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 6:44 PM Subject: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M I changed out a StarOS backhaul with a pair of PowerBridge 5M radios, 4 mile link. I Have an odd issue. The link is perfect 130MB 99% Airmax. UBNT Speed test from radio to radio is 84Mb. Now the interesting issue, both radios are plugged in to MT 493AH 4.11 OS. Running MT Bandwidth test from MT to MT TCP speeds are horrible. 14 Mb Dn and 6 Mb Upload. We tried all kinds of tests finally realized (after the climber was on the ground and in my office) that if I do a speed test from the PowerBridge station to a Rocket plugged into the same Mikrotik that I get 14 Mb x 6 Mb through a 100% wired connection (UBNT to Port-2 MT, Port-6 to UBNT Rocket) We had tried different ports to no avail and I test from MT AP thru MT 493AH to 2nd MT AP and I got 50 Mb x 50Mb. Then I realized that 2 hops across the wireless link I had a NanoBridge. A test to that across the wireless side of the link gave me a 30 Mb x 35Mb. So it come down to a single PowerBridge radio that either has a bad ethernet port or a bad POE/cable between the UBNT and MT, or some kind of incompatibility between the MT and PowerBridge. All ports are set to 100Mb FDX not Auto negotiate. This MT 493AH is relatively new with Gig option. When running speed test there are no ethernet errors or packet errors on the MT. What else can I check from the ground. Unit is 250 ft up and requires a climber I don’t have daily access to. Will the PowerBridge 5M work with 12-15 Volt. I know it wants 24VDC I don’t currently have that on this tower but had no issue with others on different towers at 12 V Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M
Funny you mention that. I had the same thing. You'd think locking down the port would be better not worse! On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 6:57 PM, KosiNet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.comwrote: We saw similar problems with the ports locked at 100/FDX - Set everything to Auto and speeds were there. I posted that on the UBNT Forum, but never got an answer -Gary- - Original Message - *From:* Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_us...@wispa.org ; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Tuesday, September 07, 2010 6:44 PM *Subject:* [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M I changed out a StarOS backhaul with a pair of PowerBridge 5M radios, 4 mile link. I Have an odd issue. The link is perfect 130MB 99% Airmax. UBNT Speed test from radio to radio is 84Mb. Now the interesting issue, both radios are plugged in to MT 493AH 4.11 OS. Running MT Bandwidth test from MT to MT TCP speeds are horrible. 14 Mb Dn and 6 Mb Upload. We tried all kinds of tests finally realized (after the climber was on the ground and in my office) that if I do a speed test from the PowerBridge station to a Rocket plugged into the same Mikrotik that I get 14 Mb x 6 Mb through a 100% wired connection (UBNT to Port-2 MT, Port-6 to UBNT Rocket) We had tried different ports to no avail and I test from MT AP thru MT 493AH to 2nd MT AP and I got 50 Mb x 50Mb. Then I realized that 2 hops across the wireless link I had a NanoBridge. A test to that across the wireless side of the link gave me a 30 Mb x 35Mb. So it come down to a single PowerBridge radio that either has a bad ethernet port or a bad POE/cable between the UBNT and MT, or some kind of incompatibility between the MT and PowerBridge. All ports are set to 100Mb FDX not Auto negotiate. This MT 493AH is relatively new with Gig option. When running speed test there are no ethernet errors or packet errors on the MT. What else can I check from the ground. Unit is 250 ft up and requires a climber I don’t have daily access to. Will the PowerBridge 5M work with 12-15 Volt. I know it wants 24VDC I don’t currently have that on this tower but had no issue with others on different towers at 12 V Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M
The longer the cable run, the more you will need 24V. If your unit runs reliably at 12-15V, then you are fine. However, if it starts rebooting during tests, then you will need to increase the voltage. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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I have this problem using RocketM5's and RocketM3's in my whole network. I can get great air tests. I have a nice managed Dell switch on one side, and interestingly enough after plugging the M3 into it my speeds got better. I plug it into my laptop, and I get the same result as the MikroTik. I've been back and forth with UBNT support and no resolve. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 7:17 PM, can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net wrote: The longer the cable run, the more you will need 24V. If your unit runs reliably at 12-15V, then you are fine. However, if it starts rebooting during tests, then you will need to increase the voltage. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M
What is the Firmware you are running on the PowerBridges ? and what are the signal levels... on Chain 0 / Chain 1 ..Also Make sure the MTU / L2MTU on the Mikrotik are 1500/1524 Try to auto negotiation on the ports on both the Mikrotik PBM5 also, ssh into the PBM5 use /bin/ifconfig command to see if there are any errors on the Ethernet Port and duplex mismatch ? Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 9/7/2010 6:44 PM, Steve Barnes wrote: I changed out a StarOS backhaul with a pair of PowerBridge 5M radios, 4 mile link. I Have an odd issue. The link is perfect 130MB 99% Airmax. UBNT Speed test from radio to radio is 84Mb. Now the interesting issue, both radios are plugged in to MT 493AH 4.11 OS. Running MT Bandwidth test from MT to MT TCP speeds are horrible. 14 Mb Dn and 6 Mb Upload. We tried all kinds of tests finally realized (after the climber was on the ground and in my office) that if I do a speed test from the PowerBridge station to a Rocket plugged into the same Mikrotik that I get 14 Mb x 6 Mb through a 100% wired connection (UBNT to Port-2 MT, Port-6 to UBNT Rocket) We had tried different ports to no avail and I test from MT AP thru MT 493AH to 2^nd MT AP and I got 50 Mb x 50Mb. Then I realized that 2 hops across the wireless link I had a NanoBridge. A test to that across the wireless side of the link gave me a 30 Mb x 35Mb. So it come down to a single PowerBridge radio that either has a bad ethernet port or a bad POE/cable between the UBNT and MT, or some kind of incompatibility between the MT and PowerBridge. All ports are set to 100Mb FDX not Auto negotiate. This MT 493AH is relatively new with Gig option. When running speed test there are no ethernet errors or packet errors on the MT. What else can I check from the ground. Unit is 250 ft up and requires a climber I don’t have daily access to. Will the PowerBridge 5M work with 12-15 Volt. I know it wants 24VDC I don’t currently have that on this tower but had no issue with others on different towers at 12 V Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M
Signal levels don't matter when the air rate tests are doing very well...and as expected. But just for kicks, -58/-59 and -63/-64. eth0_real Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:F1:C9:BA UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:5469815 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:7545829 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:500 RX bytes:663728422 (632.9 MiB) TX bytes:1633552247 (1.5 GiB) The others show the same thing. One other thing I noticed. If I use the MikroTik ping tool, set the timeout to 100ms (makes the ping go about 10x faster than normal), it will drop packets like crazy. When I say like crazy, I mean 4-8% from ethernet port on MikroTik to UBNT. I can reproduce this on 4 different rockets, with 3 different MT board types (1x493AH, 1x750G, 1x493). If I set the negotiation speed to 10M full duplex the problem goes away with the packet loss. Using Shielded cable, shielded ends, with surge suppressors on both top and bottom. I have tried different cable, and with and without surge suppressors with the same results. Lucky for me I only need 10M on one PtP link. The 3.65 link I happen to have a nice 24 port Dell Managed Switch. For whatever reason, it works fine through the Managed Switch. So I tried cheap switches (Linksys, Netgear, and DLink) at the other location, and it was a no go. I don't want to have to buy a $200 switch to make the problem go away...I'll just replace with MikroTik backhauls if I have to do that. I'm hoping they figure out the problems. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: What is the Firmware you are running on the PowerBridges ? and what are the signal levels... on Chain 0 / Chain 1 ..Also Make sure the MTU / L2MTU on the Mikrotik are 1500/1524 Try to auto negotiation on the ports on both the Mikrotik PBM5 also, ssh into the PBM5 use /bin/ifconfig command to see if there are any errors on the Ethernet Port and duplex mismatch ? Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 9/7/2010 6:44 PM, Steve Barnes wrote: I changed out a StarOS backhaul with a pair of PowerBridge 5M radios, 4 mile link. I Have an odd issue. The link is perfect 130MB 99% Airmax. UBNT Speed test from radio to radio is 84Mb. Now the interesting issue, both radios are plugged in to MT 493AH 4.11 OS. Running MT Bandwidth test from MT to MT TCP speeds are horrible. 14 Mb Dn and 6 Mb Upload. We tried all kinds of tests finally realized (after the climber was on the ground and in my office) that if I do a speed test from the PowerBridge station to a Rocket plugged into the same Mikrotik that I get 14 Mb x 6 Mb through a 100% wired connection (UBNT to Port-2 MT, Port-6 to UBNT Rocket) We had tried different ports to no avail and I test from MT AP thru MT 493AH to 2^nd MT AP and I got 50 Mb x 50Mb. Then I realized that 2 hops across the wireless link I had a NanoBridge. A test to that across the wireless side of the link gave me a 30 Mb x 35Mb. So it come down to a single PowerBridge radio that either has a bad ethernet port or a bad POE/cable between the UBNT and MT, or some kind of incompatibility between the MT and PowerBridge. All ports are set to 100Mb FDX not Auto negotiate. This MT 493AH is relatively new with Gig option. When running speed test there are no ethernet errors or packet errors on the MT. What else can I check from the ground. Unit is 250 ft up and requires a climber I don’t have daily access to. Will the PowerBridge 5M work with 12-15 Volt. I know it wants 24VDC I don’t currently have that on this tower but had no issue with others on different towers at 12 V Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M
What Firmware are u running ? Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 9/7/2010 8:43 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: Signal levels don't matter when the air rate tests are doing very well...and as expected. But just for kicks, -58/-59 and -63/-64. eth0_real Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:F1:C9:BA UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:5469815 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:7545829 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:500 RX bytes:663728422 (632.9 MiB) TX bytes:1633552247 (1.5 GiB) The others show the same thing. One other thing I noticed. If I use the MikroTik ping tool, set the timeout to 100ms (makes the ping go about 10x faster than normal), it will drop packets like crazy. When I say like crazy, I mean 4-8% from ethernet port on MikroTik to UBNT. I can reproduce this on 4 different rockets, with 3 different MT board types (1x493AH, 1x750G, 1x493). If I set the negotiation speed to 10M full duplex the problem goes away with the packet loss. Using Shielded cable, shielded ends, with surge suppressors on both top and bottom. I have tried different cable, and with and without surge suppressors with the same results. Lucky for me I only need 10M on one PtP link. The 3.65 link I happen to have a nice 24 port Dell Managed Switch. For whatever reason, it works fine through the Managed Switch. So I tried cheap switches (Linksys, Netgear, and DLink) at the other location, and it was a no go. I don't want to have to buy a $200 switch to make the problem go away...I'll just replace with MikroTik backhauls if I have to do that. I'm hoping they figure out the problems. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net mailto:fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: What is the Firmware you are running on the PowerBridges ? and what are the signal levels... on Chain 0 / Chain 1 ..Also Make sure the MTU / L2MTU on the Mikrotik are 1500/1524 Try to auto negotiation on the ports on both the Mikrotik PBM5 also, ssh into the PBM5 use /bin/ifconfig command to see if there are any errors on the Ethernet Port and duplex mismatch ? Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 9/7/2010 6:44 PM, Steve Barnes wrote: I changed out a StarOS backhaul with a pair of PowerBridge 5M radios, 4 mile link. I Have an odd issue. The link is perfect 130MB 99% Airmax. UBNT Speed test from radio to radio is 84Mb. Now the interesting issue, both radios are plugged in to MT 493AH 4.11 OS. Running MT Bandwidth test from MT to MT TCP speeds are horrible. 14 Mb Dn and 6 Mb Upload. We tried all kinds of tests finally realized (after the climber was on the ground and in my office) that if I do a speed test from the PowerBridge station to a Rocket plugged into the same Mikrotik that I get 14 Mb x 6 Mb through a 100% wired connection (UBNT to Port-2 MT, Port-6 to UBNT Rocket) We had tried different ports to no avail and I test from MT AP thru MT 493AH to 2^nd MT AP and I got 50 Mb x 50Mb. Then I realized that 2 hops across the wireless link I had a NanoBridge. A test to that across the wireless side of the link gave me a 30 Mb x 35Mb. So it come down to a single PowerBridge radio that either has a bad ethernet port or a bad POE/cable between the UBNT and MT, or some kind of incompatibility between the MT and PowerBridge. All ports are set to 100Mb FDX not Auto negotiate. This MT 493AH is relatively new with Gig option. When running speed test there are no ethernet errors or packet errors on the MT. What else can I check from the ground. Unit is 250 ft up and requires a climber I don’t have daily access to. Will the PowerBridge 5M work with 12-15 Volt. I know it wants 24VDC I don’t currently have that on this tower but had no issue with others on different towers at 12 V Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M
I believe the 12v supply is at the top and all switching is done at the top as well. I believe anyway. I was on a conference call with the tower climber and Steve trying to lend a hand. Darn wind played hell with the conversation. :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/7/2010 6:17 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote: The longer the cable run, the more you will need 24V. If your unit runs reliably at 12-15V, then you are fine. However, if it starts rebooting during tests, then you will need to increase the voltage. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M
Set all to Auto Neg and no change Here is SSH report XM.v5.2# /bin/ifconfig ath0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:60:92:85 UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC ALLMULTI MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:965042 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:713224 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:200 RX bytes:1138023050 (1.0 GiB) TX bytes:100227281 (95.5 MiB) br0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:60:92:85 inet addr:10.10.2.179 Bcast:10.10.2.183 Mask:255.255.255.248 UP BROADCAST RUNNING ALLMULTI MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:7089 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:7162 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:1499867 (1.4 MiB) TX bytes:3939545 (3.7 MiB) br0:0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:60:92:85 inet addr:169.254.146.133 Bcast:169.254.255.255 Mask:255.255.0.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING ALLMULTI MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 eth0_real Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:61:92:85 UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:708537 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:959167 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:500 RX bytes:96555669 (92.0 MiB) TX bytes:1136564610 (1.0 GiB) Steve Barnes Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 7:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M What is the Firmware you are running on the PowerBridges ? and what are the signal levels... on Chain 0 / Chain 1 ..Also Make sure the MTU / L2MTU on the Mikrotik are 1500/1524 Try to auto negotiation on the ports on both the Mikrotik PBM5 also, ssh into the PBM5 use /bin/ifconfig command to see if there are any errors on the Ethernet Port and duplex mismatch ? Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 9/7/2010 6:44 PM, Steve Barnes wrote: I changed out a StarOS backhaul with a pair of PowerBridge 5M radios, 4 mile link. I Have an odd issue. The link is perfect 130MB 99% Airmax. UBNT Speed test from radio to radio is 84Mb. Now the interesting issue, both radios are plugged in to MT 493AH 4.11 OS. Running MT Bandwidth test from MT to MT TCP speeds are horrible. 14 Mb Dn and 6 Mb Upload. We tried all kinds of tests finally realized (after the climber was on the ground and in my office) that if I do a speed test from the PowerBridge station to a Rocket plugged into the same Mikrotik that I get 14 Mb x 6 Mb through a 100% wired connection (UBNT to Port-2 MT, Port-6 to UBNT Rocket) We had tried different ports to no avail and I test from MT AP thru MT 493AH to 2^nd MT AP and I got 50 Mb x 50Mb. Then I realized that 2 hops across the wireless link I had a NanoBridge. A test to that across the wireless side of the link gave me a 30 Mb x 35Mb. So it come down to a single PowerBridge radio that either has a bad ethernet port or a bad POE/cable between the UBNT and MT, or some kind of incompatibility between the MT and PowerBridge. All ports are set to 100Mb FDX not Auto negotiate. This MT 493AH is relatively new with Gig option. When running speed test there are no ethernet errors or packet errors on the MT. What else can I check from the ground. Unit is 250 ft up and requires a climber I don’t have daily access to. Will the PowerBridge 5M work with 12-15 Volt. I know it wants 24VDC I don’t currently have that on this tower but had no issue with others on different towers at 12 V Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M
If I set the negotiation speed to 10M full duplex the problem goes away with the packet loss. I have seen such an issue once.. we had 3 shielded outdoor cable runs done in a 'blue smurf' conduit, going from South Side Telco Room to North Side Telco Room. I would get errors one one of the cables, regardless of what I did, changed connectors, changed auto negotiate etc.etc... if I switched the ports to 10Meg Full Duplex, no more errors... btw, the cable was running between Switch (Cisco/Linksys SML208) to another segment (connected using UBNT 802.3af poe converter) going to a NanoBridgeM5... Since I had a spare cable available, I used the spare.. no issues on that cable Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 9/7/2010 8:43 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: Signal levels don't matter when the air rate tests are doing very well...and as expected. But just for kicks, -58/-59 and -63/-64. eth0_real Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:F1:C9:BA UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:5469815 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:7545829 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:500 RX bytes:663728422 (632.9 MiB) TX bytes:1633552247 (1.5 GiB) The others show the same thing. One other thing I noticed. If I use the MikroTik ping tool, set the timeout to 100ms (makes the ping go about 10x faster than normal), it will drop packets like crazy. When I say like crazy, I mean 4-8% from ethernet port on MikroTik to UBNT. I can reproduce this on 4 different rockets, with 3 different MT board types (1x493AH, 1x750G, 1x493). If I set the negotiation speed to 10M full duplex the problem goes away with the packet loss. Using Shielded cable, shielded ends, with surge suppressors on both top and bottom. I have tried different cable, and with and without surge suppressors with the same results. Lucky for me I only need 10M on one PtP link. The 3.65 link I happen to have a nice 24 port Dell Managed Switch. For whatever reason, it works fine through the Managed Switch. So I tried cheap switches (Linksys, Netgear, and DLink) at the other location, and it was a no go. I don't want to have to buy a $200 switch to make the problem go away...I'll just replace with MikroTik backhauls if I have to do that. I'm hoping they figure out the problems. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net mailto:fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: What is the Firmware you are running on the PowerBridges ? and what are the signal levels... on Chain 0 / Chain 1 ..Also Make sure the MTU / L2MTU on the Mikrotik are 1500/1524 Try to auto negotiation on the ports on both the Mikrotik PBM5 also, ssh into the PBM5 use /bin/ifconfig command to see if there are any errors on the Ethernet Port and duplex mismatch ? Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 9/7/2010 6:44 PM, Steve Barnes wrote: I changed out a StarOS backhaul with a pair of PowerBridge 5M radios, 4 mile link. I Have an odd issue. The link is perfect 130MB 99% Airmax. UBNT Speed test from radio to radio is 84Mb. Now the interesting issue, both radios are plugged in to MT 493AH 4.11 OS. Running MT Bandwidth test from MT to MT TCP speeds are horrible. 14 Mb Dn and 6 Mb Upload. We tried all kinds of tests finally realized (after the climber was on the ground and in my office) that if I do a speed test from the PowerBridge station to a Rocket plugged into the same Mikrotik that I get 14 Mb x 6 Mb through a 100% wired connection (UBNT to Port-2 MT, Port-6 to UBNT Rocket) We had tried different ports to no avail and I test from MT AP thru MT 493AH to 2^nd MT AP and I got 50 Mb x 50Mb. Then I realized that 2 hops across the wireless link I had a NanoBridge. A test to that across the wireless side of the link gave me a 30 Mb x 35Mb. So it come down to a single PowerBridge radio that either has a bad ethernet port or a bad POE/cable between the UBNT and MT, or some kind of incompatibility between the MT and PowerBridge. All ports are set to 100Mb FDX not Auto negotiate. This MT 493AH is relatively new with Gig option. When running speed test there are no ethernet errors or packet errors on the MT. What else can I check from the ground. Unit is 250 ft up and requires a climber I don’t have daily access to. Will the PowerBridge 5M work with 12-15 Volt. I know it
Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M
Is it possible to change and test to see if it the Radios's or the MK493ah that is root cause of this issue. Also, do you get the same results when you run the test from one side or the other ? Could you have some Bandwidth Shaping in place ? do you have another Mikrotik eg. 750g that you could plug int one side to see if that makes a difference ? (I have Rocket M5's working on MK750 MK750g.. no issues... Another suggestion to try is .. change the firmware to the 3x train on the MK493ah board and see if you get the same results.. Got to narrow down further... Do both sides of the link (I am assuming both sides have a MK router ), showing similar behavior between the Rocket Mk Router ? Just for kicks, you can update the firmware to 5.2.1 beta 3... (get it from the UBNT Forum) and see if the results change.. if they don' then ... pretty sure it is not a radio side issue Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 9/7/2010 10:50 PM, Steve Barnes wrote: Set all to Auto Neg and no change Here is SSH report XM.v5.2# /bin/ifconfig ath0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:60:92:85 UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC ALLMULTI MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:965042 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:713224 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:200 RX bytes:1138023050 (1.0 GiB) TX bytes:100227281 (95.5 MiB) br0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:60:92:85 inet addr:10.10.2.179 Bcast:10.10.2.183 Mask:255.255.255.248 UP BROADCAST RUNNING ALLMULTI MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:7089 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:7162 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:1499867 (1.4 MiB) TX bytes:3939545 (3.7 MiB) br0:0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:60:92:85 inet addr:169.254.146.133 Bcast:169.254.255.255 Mask:255.255.0.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING ALLMULTI MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 eth0_real Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:61:92:85 UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:708537 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:959167 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:500 RX bytes:96555669 (92.0 MiB) TX bytes:1136564610 (1.0 GiB) Steve Barnes Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 7:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M What is the Firmware you are running on the PowerBridges ? and what are the signal levels... on Chain 0 / Chain 1 ..Also Make sure the MTU / L2MTU on the Mikrotik are 1500/1524 Try to auto negotiation on the ports on both the Mikrotik PBM5 also, ssh into the PBM5 use /bin/ifconfig command to see if there are any errors on the Ethernet Port and duplex mismatch ? Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 9/7/2010 6:44 PM, Steve Barnes wrote: I changed out a StarOS backhaul with a pair of PowerBridge 5M radios, 4 mile link. I Have an odd issue. The link is perfect 130MB 99% Airmax. UBNT Speed test from radio to radio is 84Mb. Now the interesting issue, both radios are plugged in to MT 493AH 4.11 OS. Running MT Bandwidth test from MT to MT TCP speeds are horrible. 14 Mb Dn and 6 Mb Upload. We tried all kinds of tests finally realized (after the climber was on the ground and in my office) that if I do a speed test from the PowerBridge station to a Rocket plugged into the same Mikrotik that I get 14 Mb x 6 Mb through a 100% wired connection (UBNT to Port-2 MT, Port-6 to UBNT Rocket) We had tried different ports to no avail and I test from MT AP thru MT 493AH to 2^nd MT AP and I got 50 Mb x 50Mb. Then I realized that 2 hops across the wireless link I had a NanoBridge. A test to that across the wireless side of the link gave me a 30 Mb x 35Mb. So it come down to a single PowerBridge radio that either has a bad ethernet port or a bad POE/cable between the UBNT and MT, or some kind of incompatibility between the MT and PowerBridge. All ports are set to 100Mb FDX not Auto negotiate. This MT 493AH is relatively new with Gig option. When running speed test there are no ethernet errors or packet errors on the MT. What else can I check from the ground. Unit is 250 ft up and requires a climber I don’t have daily access to. Will the PowerBridge 5M work with 12-15 Volt. I know it wants 24VDC I don’t currently have that on this tower but had no issue
