Re: [WISPA] Powerstation2 with very low throughput

2010-08-18 Thread Mark Dueck




Thank you all for your responses. I change the AP to B mode only, then
set the ACK manually and now it's performance is on par with the Tr6600
we had before. I also changed 1 client to another AP.

Mark

On 08/12/2010 11:56 AM, Mark Dueck wrote:

  
Hi Everyone,
  
I had a bunch of my equipment burnt on a tower. Previously I had all
Tranzeo. Now I put up a Powerstation2 for my main AP with a Tranzeo 17
dbi sector. I'm getting a max throughput of around 3 mbits. That's
looking at the throughput graphs in the PS2. Once I'm reaching that
throughput though, pings to certain clients go way up to over 2
seconds. I do my testing from linux, using
  
ping IP -i .01 -s 1024 or even take the 1024 up to 2048.
  
I can do this to 3 clients at 1024 packet size.. Once I start
pushing it to a 4th client, pings get lost and replies come back 2
seconds later.
  
Is this normal?? I'm looking into it because I have clients
complaining they loose connection completely sometimes. When I ping to
3 clients, I can hardly ping any other clients. no response. I've
pinged the AP during this whole time and it never flaps. Very solid at
a few ms.
  
The previous Tranzeo AP had no problems. Clients are mostly Tranzeo
SL2s and their distances vary from 1/2 mile to about 3 miles
  
Here's the station list with their signal strength:
  
  

  
Station MAC
Signal, dBm
Noise, dBm
Tx Rate
Rx Rate
Idle (sec)
  
  
00:15:6D:1A:0A:05
-54
-96
48M
36M
0
  
  
00:60:B3:E9:24:25
-69
-96
24M
18M
0
  
  
00:13:4F:10:09:0F
-49
-96
48M
36M
0
  
  
00:15:6D:1A:0F:D7
-74
-96
11M
18M
0
  
  
00:13:4F:00:C5:DB
-78
-96
18M
5M
15
  
  
00:1C:F0:EA:57:06
-75
-96
11M
11M
0
  
  
00:13:4F:00:C5:C2
-72
-96
36M
18M
15
  
  
00:60:B3:45:37:60
-75
-96
11M
12M
0
  
  
00:13:4F:00:97:96
-52
-96
54M
36M
0
  
  
00:13:4F:00:8E:E5
-64
-96
48M
11M
0
  
  
00:13:4F:00:A6:E6
-65
-96
36M
24M
0
  
  
00:13:4F:00:C3:91
-77
-96
5M
12M
15
  
  
00:13:4F:00:B7:FA
-82
-96
36M
1M
15
  
  
00:60:B3:59:89:54
-72
-96
36M
18M
0
  
  
00:13:4F:00:C5:C4
-77
-96
18M
12M
0
  
  
00:13:4F:00:A7:00
-76
-96
11M
12M
15
  
  
00:0B:6B:37:E5:2B
-67
-96
24M
36M
15
  
  
00:13:4F:10:01:D5
-54
-96
11M
36M
0
  
  
00:13:4F:00:8B:83
-68
-96
36M
18M
0
  
  
00:13:4F:00:D8:08
-81
-96
12M
1M
0
  
  
00:13:4F:10:02:3E
-73
-96
48M
12M
30
  
  
00:60:B3:E9:22:A0
-84
-96
1M
12M
0
  

  
  
  
Anyone have any idea what it could be?
  




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Re: [WISPA] Powerstation2 with very low throughput

2010-08-16 Thread Kristian Hoffmann

On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 06:48 -0600, Mark Dueck wrote:
 It's a brand new PS purchased about 2 months ago. 
 
 I'll have to try B only then to see if that will have better
 performance.
 
 I've been checking all the clients, and I see some of them with very
 high retries.  They are pushing through trees.  Could be a likely
 cause right?

Excessive retries can definitely cause a severe reduction in throughput.
Here's a study I did a year or two ago.  The test was to see how many
retries a typical 802.11 AP/station would send before giving up.  I was
surprised.  This particular test run was to see how effective MikroTik's
frame lifetime setting was.


Static test configuration 2

* AP, 802.11b, channel 1, ROS 3.3
* Engenius station
* RB112 w/ NMP-8602 station, ROS 3.3
* RB112 w/ NMP- sniffer, ROS 3.3 

Test run 2.1

* Dynamic test configuration
  o AP, 802.11b, channel 1
+ hw-retries - 4
+ on-retry-fail-time - 100ms
+ disconnect-timeout - 3s
+ frame-lifetime - 0 (infinite) 
* Results
  o Max observed frame retry count - 185 

Test run 2.2

* Dynamic test configuration
  o AP, 802.11b, channel 1
+ hw-retries - 0
+ on-retry-fail-time - 100ms
+ disconnect-timeout - 3s
+ frame-lifetime - 0 (infinite) 
* Results
  o Max observed frame retry count - 76 

Test run 2.3

* Dynamic test configuration
  o AP, 802.11b, channel 1
+ hw-retries - 0
+ on-retry-fail-time - 100ms
+ disconnect-timeout - 3s
+ frame-lifetime - 10cs (100ms) 
* Results
  o Max observed frame retry count - 7 

Test run 2.4

* Dynamic test configuration
  o AP, 802.11b, channel 1
+ hw-retries - 0
+ on-retry-fail-time - 100ms
+ disconnect-timeout - 3s
+ frame-lifetime - 1cs (10ms) 
* Results
  o Max observed frame retry count - 4 (1x11Mbps, 1x5.5Mbps,
1x2Mbps, 1x1Mbps) 

Test run 2.5

* Dynamic test configuration
  o AP, 802.11b, channel 1
+ hw-retries - 4
+ on-retry-fail-time - 100ms
+ disconnect-timeout - 3s
+ frame-lifetime - 1cs (10ms) 
* Results
  o Max observed frame retry count - 4 (4x11Mbps) 



These tests are counting AP-side retransmits, but the same applies to
the CPE.  When we have a suspect client with a MikroTik CPE, we login
and change frame lifetime to ~10.  If it completely breaks them, then we
know they're (part of) the problem.  In an extreme case, we had to put
another AP up in sniffer mode to find the culprit.  In more than one
case, the problem was a metal barn either directly in front of the
customer's antenna, or at the half way point.

HTH,

-Kristian





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Re: [WISPA] Powerstation2 with very low throughput

2010-08-13 Thread Mark Dueck




It's a brand new PS purchased about 2 months ago. 

I'll have to try B only then to see if that will have better
performance.

I've been checking all the clients, and I see some of them with very
high retries. They are pushing through trees. Could be a likely cause
right?


On 08/12/2010 11:36 PM, RickG wrote:
I'm assuming you have, but I've never had much luck with
"G mode". With that said, I just fixed asimilarissue by using a a
Bullet2HP (non "M"). -RickG
  
  On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz
wrote:
  
Hi Everyone,

I had a bunch of my equipment burnt on a tower. Previously I had all
Tranzeo. Now I put up a Powerstation2 for my main AP with a Tranzeo 17
dbi sector. I'm getting a max throughput of around 3 mbits. That's
looking at the throughput graphs in the PS2. Once I'm reaching that
throughput though, pings to certain clients go way up to over 2
seconds. I do my testing from linux, using

ping IP -i .01 -s 1024 or even take the 1024 up to 2048.

I can do this to 3 clients at 1024 packet size.. Once I start
pushing it to a 4th client, pings get lost and replies come back 2
seconds later.

Is this normal?? I'm looking into it because I have clients
complaining they loose connection completely sometimes. When I ping to
3 clients, I can hardly ping any other clients. no response. I've
pinged the AP during this whole time and it never flaps. Very solid at
a few ms.

The previous Tranzeo AP had no problems. Clients are mostly Tranzeo
SL2s and their distances vary from 1/2 mile to about 3 miles

Here's the station list with their signal strength:


  

  Station MAC
  Signal, dBm
  Noise, dBm
  Tx Rate
  Rx Rate
  Idle (sec)


  00:15:6D:1A:0A:05
  -54
  -96
  48M
  36M
  0


  00:60:B3:E9:24:25
  -69
  -96
  24M
  18M
  0


  00:13:4F:10:09:0F
  -49
  -96
  48M
  36M
  0


  00:15:6D:1A:0F:D7
  -74
  -96
  11M
  18M
  0


  00:13:4F:00:C5:DB
  -78
  -96
  18M
  5M
  15


  00:1C:F0:EA:57:06
  -75
  -96
  11M
  11M
  0


  00:13:4F:00:C5:C2
  -72
  -96
  36M
  18M
  15


  00:60:B3:45:37:60
  -75
  -96
  11M
  12M
  0


  00:13:4F:00:97:96
  -52
  -96
  54M
  36M
  0


  00:13:4F:00:8E:E5
  -64
  -96
  48M
  11M
  0


  00:13:4F:00:A6:E6
  -65
  -96
  36M
  24M
  0


  00:13:4F:00:C3:91
  -77
  -96
  5M
  12M
  15


  00:13:4F:00:B7:FA
  -82
  -96
  36M
  1M
  15


  00:60:B3:59:89:54
  -72
  -96
  36M
  18M
  0


  00:13:4F:00:C5:C4
  -77
  -96
  18M
  12M
  0


  00:13:4F:00:A7:00
  -76
  -96
  11M
  12M
  15


  00:0B:6B:37:E5:2B
  -67
  -96
  24M
  36M
  15


  00:13:4F:10:01:D5
  -54
  -96
  11M
  36M
  0


  00:13:4F:00:8B:83
  -68
  -96
  36M
  18M
  0


  00:13:4F:00:D8:08
  -81
  -96
  12M
  1M
  0


  00:13:4F:10:02:3E
  -73
  -96
  48M
  12M
  30


  00:60:B3:E9:22:A0
  -84
  -96
  1M
  12M
  0

  



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Re: [WISPA] Powerstation2 with very low throughput

2010-08-13 Thread Steve Barnes
How did you resolve this.  I have 3 that intermittently connect and disconnect 
that could explain it.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WINhttp://www.pcswin.com/
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Servicehttp://www.rcwifi.com/

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Robert West
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 11:49 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powerstation2 with very low throughput

How old is your PS2?  A year or so ago, a batch of PS2's had an issue with bad 
MMCX connectors to the internal board.  Caused me some crazy low throughput 
issues.

Bob-



From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Mark Dueck
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 1:56 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Powerstation2 with very low throughput

Hi Everyone,

I had a bunch of my equipment burnt on a tower.  Previously I had all Tranzeo.  
Now I put up a Powerstation2 for my main AP with a Tranzeo 17 dbi sector.  I'm 
getting a max throughput of around 3 mbits.  That's looking at the throughput 
graphs in the PS2.  Once I'm reaching that throughput though, pings to certain 
clients go way up to over 2 seconds.  I do my testing from linux, using

ping IP -i .01 -s 1024  or even take the 1024 up to 2048.

I can do this to 3 clients at 1024 packet size..Once I start pushing it to 
a 4th client, pings get lost and replies come back 2 seconds later.

Is this normal??  I'm looking into it because I have clients complaining they 
loose connection completely sometimes.  When I ping to 3 clients, I can hardly 
ping any other clients.  no response.  I've pinged the AP during this whole 
time and it never flaps. Very solid at a few ms.

The previous Tranzeo AP had no problems.  Clients are mostly Tranzeo SL2s and 
their distances vary from 1/2 mile to about 3 miles

Here's the station list with their signal strength:
Station MAC

Signal, dBm

Noise, dBm

Tx Rate

Rx Rate

Idle (sec)

00:15:6D:1A:0A:05http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi

-54

-96

48M

36M

0

00:60:B3:E9:24:25http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi

-69

-96

24M

18M

0

00:13:4F:10:09:0Fhttp://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi

-49

-96

48M

36M

0

00:15:6D:1A:0F:D7http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi

-74

-96

11M

18M

0

00:13:4F:00:C5:DBhttp://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi

-78

-96

18M

5M

15

00:1C:F0:EA:57:06http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi

-75

-96

11M

11M

0

00:13:4F:00:C5:C2http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi

-72

-96

36M

18M

15

00:60:B3:45:37:60http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi

-75

-96

11M

12M

0

00:13:4F:00:97:96http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi

-52

-96

54M

36M

0

00:13:4F:00:8E:E5http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi

-64

-96

48M

11M

0

00:13:4F:00:A6:E6http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi

-65

-96

36M

24M

0

00:13:4F:00:C3:91http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi

-77

-96

5M

12M

15

00:13:4F:00:B7:FAhttp://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi

-82

-96

36M

1M

15

00:60:B3:59:89:54http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi

-72

-96

36M

18M

0

00:13:4F:00:C5:C4http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi

-77

-96

18M

12M

0

00:13:4F:00:A7:00http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi

-76

-96

11M

12M

15

00:0B:6B:37:E5:2Bhttp://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi

-67

-96

24M

36M

15

00:13:4F:10:01:D5http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi

-54

-96

11M

36M

0

00:13:4F:00:8B:83http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi

-68

-96

36M

18M

0

00:13:4F:00:D8:08http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi

-81

-96

12M

1M

0

00:13:4F:10:02:3Ehttp://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi

-73

-96

48M

12M

30

00:60:B3:E9:22:A0http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi

-84

-96

1M

12M

0



Anyone have any idea what it could be?



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Re: [WISPA] Powerstation2 with very low throughput

2010-08-13 Thread Robert West
Take the cover off and look at the connectors on the board.   They are hot
glued on but the ones I had go bad, the glue became brittle and broke off.
I found that the connector to the board was very loose.  As in, too big to
snap into the board.  A manufacturing snafu I suspect with a nice amount of
hot glue keeping it on.  Mine started in the spring after being up for a
winter.  They would come and go, levels up and down.  Eventually burned out
the boards.  Replaced the boards with the Light Station boards.  Have to
remove the power connector though.

 

The ones that didn't burn out and still seemed to have good throughput, I
just replaced the N connectors.  On the connectorized versions that is.

 

I really WAS amazed to see the connectors just fall away with the glue
removed.

 

I still have 2 in the living room in pieces.  Did an RMA on them but never
sent them in.  Always too much going on.

 

Bob-

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 8:51 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powerstation2 with very low throughput

 

How did you resolve this.  I have 3 that intermittently connect and
disconnect that could explain it.

 

Steve Barnes

General Manager

PCS-WIN http://www.pcswin.com/ 

RC-WiFi W http://www.rcwifi.com/ ireless Internet Service

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 11:49 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powerstation2 with very low throughput

 

How old is your PS2?  A year or so ago, a batch of PS2's had an issue with
bad MMCX connectors to the internal board.  Caused me some crazy low
throughput issues.  

 

Bob-

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mark Dueck
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 1:56 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Powerstation2 with very low throughput

 

Hi Everyone,

I had a bunch of my equipment burnt on a tower.  Previously I had all
Tranzeo.  Now I put up a Powerstation2 for my main AP with a Tranzeo 17 dbi
sector.  I'm getting a max throughput of around 3 mbits.  That's looking at
the throughput graphs in the PS2.  Once I'm reaching that throughput though,
pings to certain clients go way up to over 2 seconds.  I do my testing from
linux, using

ping IP -i .01 -s 1024  or even take the 1024 up to 2048.

I can do this to 3 clients at 1024 packet size..Once I start pushing it
to a 4th client, pings get lost and replies come back 2 seconds later.

Is this normal??  I'm looking into it because I have clients complaining
they loose connection completely sometimes.  When I ping to 3 clients, I can
hardly ping any other clients.  no response.  I've pinged the AP during this
whole time and it never flaps. Very solid at a few ms.

The previous Tranzeo AP had no problems.  Clients are mostly Tranzeo SL2s
and their distances vary from 1/2 mile to about 3 miles

Here's the station list with their signal strength:


Station MAC

Signal, dBm

Noise, dBm

Tx Rate

Rx Rate

Idle (sec)


00:15:6D:1A:0A:05 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-54

-96

48M

36M

0


00:60:B3:E9:24:25 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-69

-96

24M

18M

0


00:13:4F:10:09:0F http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-49

-96

48M

36M

0


00:15:6D:1A:0F:D7 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-74

-96

11M

18M

0


00:13:4F:00:C5:DB http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-78

-96

18M

5M

15


00:1C:F0:EA:57:06 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-75

-96

11M

11M

0


00:13:4F:00:C5:C2 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-72

-96

36M

18M

15


00:60:B3:45:37:60 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-75

-96

11M

12M

0


00:13:4F:00:97:96 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-52

-96

54M

36M

0


00:13:4F:00:8E:E5 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-64

-96

48M

11M

0


00:13:4F:00:A6:E6 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-65

-96

36M

24M

0


00:13:4F:00:C3:91 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-77

-96

5M

12M

15


00:13:4F:00:B7:FA http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-82

-96

36M

1M

15


00:60:B3:59:89:54 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-72

-96

36M

18M

0


00:13:4F:00:C5:C4 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-77

-96

18M

12M

0


00:13:4F:00:A7:00 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-76

-96

11M

12M

15


00:0B:6B:37:E5:2B http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-67

-96

24M

36M

15


00:13:4F:10:01:D5 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-54

-96

11M

36M

0


00:13:4F:00:8B:83 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-68

-96

36M

18M

0


00:13:4F:00:D8:08 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-81

-96

12M

1M

0


00:13:4F:10:02:3E http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-73

-96

48M

12M

30


00:60:B3:E9:22:A0 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-84

-96

1M

12M

0



Anyone have any idea what it could be?




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[WISPA] Powerstation2 with very low throughput

2010-08-12 Thread Mark Dueck




Hi Everyone,

I had a bunch of my equipment burnt on a tower. Previously I had all
Tranzeo. Now I put up a Powerstation2 for my main AP with a Tranzeo 17
dbi sector. I'm getting a max throughput of around 3 mbits. That's
looking at the throughput graphs in the PS2. Once I'm reaching that
throughput though, pings to certain clients go way up to over 2
seconds. I do my testing from linux, using

ping IP -i .01 -s 1024 or even take the 1024 up to 2048.

I can do this to 3 clients at 1024 packet size.. Once I start
pushing it to a 4th client, pings get lost and replies come back 2
seconds later.

Is this normal?? I'm looking into it because I have clients
complaining they loose connection completely sometimes. When I ping to
3 clients, I can hardly ping any other clients. no response. I've
pinged the AP during this whole time and it never flaps. Very solid at
a few ms.

The previous Tranzeo AP had no problems. Clients are mostly Tranzeo
SL2s and their distances vary from 1/2 mile to about 3 miles

Here's the station list with their signal strength:


  

  Station MAC
  Signal, dBm
  Noise, dBm
  Tx Rate
  Rx Rate
  Idle (sec)


  00:15:6D:1A:0A:05
  -54
  -96
  48M
  36M
  0


  00:60:B3:E9:24:25
  -69
  -96
  24M
  18M
  0


  00:13:4F:10:09:0F
  -49
  -96
  48M
  36M
  0


  00:15:6D:1A:0F:D7
  -74
  -96
  11M
  18M
  0


  00:13:4F:00:C5:DB
  -78
  -96
  18M
  5M
  15


  00:1C:F0:EA:57:06
  -75
  -96
  11M
  11M
  0


  00:13:4F:00:C5:C2
  -72
  -96
  36M
  18M
  15


  00:60:B3:45:37:60
  -75
  -96
  11M
  12M
  0


  00:13:4F:00:97:96
  -52
  -96
  54M
  36M
  0


  00:13:4F:00:8E:E5
  -64
  -96
  48M
  11M
  0


  00:13:4F:00:A6:E6
  -65
  -96
  36M
  24M
  0


  00:13:4F:00:C3:91
  -77
  -96
  5M
  12M
  15


  00:13:4F:00:B7:FA
  -82
  -96
  36M
  1M
  15


  00:60:B3:59:89:54
  -72
  -96
  36M
  18M
  0


  00:13:4F:00:C5:C4
  -77
  -96
  18M
  12M
  0


  00:13:4F:00:A7:00
  -76
  -96
  11M
  12M
  15


  00:0B:6B:37:E5:2B
  -67
  -96
  24M
  36M
  15


  00:13:4F:10:01:D5
  -54
  -96
  11M
  36M
  0


  00:13:4F:00:8B:83
  -68
  -96
  36M
  18M
  0


  00:13:4F:00:D8:08
  -81
  -96
  12M
  1M
  0


  00:13:4F:10:02:3E
  -73
  -96
  48M
  12M
  30


  00:60:B3:E9:22:A0
  -84
  -96
  1M
  12M
  0

  



Anyone have any idea what it could be?





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Re: [WISPA] Powerstation2 with very low throughput

2010-08-12 Thread Chris Gotstein
My guess would be the low symbol rate you have on a few clients.  Try
getting their signal better, or temporarily disabling them to see if
that helps.

   
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com

On 8/12/2010 12:56 PM, Mark Dueck wrote:
 Hi Everyone,
 
 I had a bunch of my equipment burnt on a tower.  Previously I had all
 Tranzeo.  Now I put up a Powerstation2 for my main AP with a Tranzeo 17
 dbi sector.  I'm getting a max throughput of around 3 mbits.  That's
 looking at the throughput graphs in the PS2.  Once I'm reaching that
 throughput though, pings to certain clients go way up to over 2
 seconds.  I do my testing from linux, using
 
 ping IP -i .01 -s 1024  or even take the 1024 up to 2048.
 
 I can do this to 3 clients at 1024 packet size..Once I start pushing
 it to a 4th client, pings get lost and replies come back 2 seconds later.
 
 Is this normal??  I'm looking into it because I have clients complaining
 they loose connection completely sometimes.  When I ping to 3 clients, I
 can hardly ping any other clients.  no response.  I've pinged the AP
 during this whole time and it never flaps. Very solid at a few ms.
 
 The previous Tranzeo AP had no problems.  Clients are mostly Tranzeo
 SL2s and their distances vary from 1/2 mile to about 3 miles
 
 Here's the station list with their signal strength:
 
 Station MAC   Signal, dBm Noise, dBm  Tx Rate Rx Rate 
 Idle (sec)
 00:15:6D:1A:0A:05 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-54 -96 48M 
 36M 0
 00:60:B3:E9:24:25 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-69 -96 24M 
 18M 0
 00:13:4F:10:09:0F http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-49 -96 48M 
 36M 0
 00:15:6D:1A:0F:D7 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-74 -96 11M 
 18M 0
 00:13:4F:00:C5:DB http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-78 -96 18M 
 5M  15
 00:1C:F0:EA:57:06 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-75 -96 11M 
 11M 0
 00:13:4F:00:C5:C2 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-72 -96 36M 
 18M 15
 00:60:B3:45:37:60 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-75 -96 11M 
 12M 0
 00:13:4F:00:97:96 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-52 -96 54M 
 36M 0
 00:13:4F:00:8E:E5 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-64 -96 48M 
 11M 0
 00:13:4F:00:A6:E6 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-65 -96 36M 
 24M 0
 00:13:4F:00:C3:91 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-77 -96 5M  
 12M 15
 00:13:4F:00:B7:FA http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-82 -96 36M 
 1M  15
 00:60:B3:59:89:54 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-72 -96 36M 
 18M 0
 00:13:4F:00:C5:C4 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-77 -96 18M 
 12M 0
 00:13:4F:00:A7:00 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-76 -96 11M 
 12M 15
 00:0B:6B:37:E5:2B http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-67 -96 24M 
 36M 15
 00:13:4F:10:01:D5 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-54 -96 11M 
 36M 0
 00:13:4F:00:8B:83 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-68 -96 36M 
 18M 0
 00:13:4F:00:D8:08 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-81 -96 12M 
 1M  0
 00:13:4F:10:02:3E http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-73 -96 48M 
 12M 30
 00:60:B3:E9:22:A0 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-84 -96 1M  
 12M 0
 
 
 
 Anyone have any idea what it could be?
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Powerstation2 with very low throughput

2010-08-12 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
With Ubiquity gear the normal / standard for troubleshooting is 
something like this:-

... Update to the latest firmware (from their site)
  also review what fixes in the latest beta (posted in the forum)
  Try setting up your AP without Auto Ack and setup the Ack distance 
manually.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom

On 8/12/2010 2:08 PM, Chris Gotstein wrote:
 My guess would be the low symbol rate you have on a few clients.  Try
 getting their signal better, or temporarily disabling them to see if
 that helps.

    
 Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P.
 http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com

 On 8/12/2010 12:56 PM, Mark Dueck wrote:
 Hi Everyone,

 I had a bunch of my equipment burnt on a tower.  Previously I had all
 Tranzeo.  Now I put up a Powerstation2 for my main AP with a Tranzeo 17
 dbi sector.  I'm getting a max throughput of around 3 mbits.  That's
 looking at the throughput graphs in the PS2.  Once I'm reaching that
 throughput though, pings to certain clients go way up to over 2
 seconds.  I do my testing from linux, using

 pingIP  -i .01 -s 1024  or even take the 1024 up to 2048.

 I can do this to 3 clients at 1024 packet size..Once I start pushing
 it to a 4th client, pings get lost and replies come back 2 seconds later.

 Is this normal??  I'm looking into it because I have clients complaining
 they loose connection completely sometimes.  When I ping to 3 clients, I
 can hardly ping any other clients.  no response.  I've pinged the AP
 during this whole time and it never flaps. Very solid at a few ms.

 The previous Tranzeo AP had no problems.  Clients are mostly Tranzeo
 SL2s and their distances vary from 1/2 mile to about 3 miles

 Here's the station list with their signal strength:

 Station MAC  Signal, dBm Noise, dBm  Tx Rate Rx Rate 
 Idle (sec)
 00:15:6D:1A:0A:05http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-54 -96 48M 
 36M 0
 00:60:B3:E9:24:25http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-69 -96 24M 
 18M 0
 00:13:4F:10:09:0Fhttp://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-49 -96 48M 
 36M 0
 00:15:6D:1A:0F:D7http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-74 -96 11M 
 18M 0
 00:13:4F:00:C5:DBhttp://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-78 -96 18M 
 5M  15
 00:1C:F0:EA:57:06http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-75 -96 11M 
 11M 0
 00:13:4F:00:C5:C2http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-72 -96 36M 
 18M 15
 00:60:B3:45:37:60http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-75 -96 11M 
 12M 0
 00:13:4F:00:97:96http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-52 -96 54M 
 36M 0
 00:13:4F:00:8E:E5http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-64 -96 48M 
 11M 0
 00:13:4F:00:A6:E6http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-65 -96 36M 
 24M 0
 00:13:4F:00:C3:91http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-77 -96 5M  
 12M 15
 00:13:4F:00:B7:FAhttp://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-82 -96 36M 
 1M  15
 00:60:B3:59:89:54http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-72 -96 36M 
 18M 0
 00:13:4F:00:C5:C4http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-77 -96 18M 
 12M 0
 00:13:4F:00:A7:00http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-76 -96 11M 
 12M 15
 00:0B:6B:37:E5:2Bhttp://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-67 -96 24M 
 36M 15
 00:13:4F:10:01:D5http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-54 -96 11M 
 36M 0
 00:13:4F:00:8B:83http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-68 -96 36M 
 18M 0
 00:13:4F:00:D8:08http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-81 -96 12M 
 1M  0
 00:13:4F:10:02:3Ehttp://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-73 -96 48M 
 12M 30
 00:60:B3:E9:22:A0http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-84 -96 1M  
 12M 0



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Re: [WISPA] Powerstation2 with very low throughput

2010-08-12 Thread Robert West
How old is your PS2?  A year or so ago, a batch of PS2's had an issue with
bad MMCX connectors to the internal board.  Caused me some crazy low
throughput issues.  

 

Bob-

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mark Dueck
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 1:56 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Powerstation2 with very low throughput

 

Hi Everyone,

I had a bunch of my equipment burnt on a tower.  Previously I had all
Tranzeo.  Now I put up a Powerstation2 for my main AP with a Tranzeo 17 dbi
sector.  I'm getting a max throughput of around 3 mbits.  That's looking at
the throughput graphs in the PS2.  Once I'm reaching that throughput though,
pings to certain clients go way up to over 2 seconds.  I do my testing from
linux, using

ping IP -i .01 -s 1024  or even take the 1024 up to 2048.

I can do this to 3 clients at 1024 packet size..Once I start pushing it
to a 4th client, pings get lost and replies come back 2 seconds later.

Is this normal??  I'm looking into it because I have clients complaining
they loose connection completely sometimes.  When I ping to 3 clients, I can
hardly ping any other clients.  no response.  I've pinged the AP during this
whole time and it never flaps. Very solid at a few ms.

The previous Tranzeo AP had no problems.  Clients are mostly Tranzeo SL2s
and their distances vary from 1/2 mile to about 3 miles

Here's the station list with their signal strength:


Station MAC

Signal, dBm

Noise, dBm

Tx Rate

Rx Rate

Idle (sec)


00:15:6D:1A:0A:05 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-54

-96

48M

36M

0


00:60:B3:E9:24:25 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-69

-96

24M

18M

0


00:13:4F:10:09:0F http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-49

-96

48M

36M

0


00:15:6D:1A:0F:D7 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-74

-96

11M

18M

0


00:13:4F:00:C5:DB http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-78

-96

18M

5M

15


00:1C:F0:EA:57:06 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-75

-96

11M

11M

0


00:13:4F:00:C5:C2 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-72

-96

36M

18M

15


00:60:B3:45:37:60 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-75

-96

11M

12M

0


00:13:4F:00:97:96 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-52

-96

54M

36M

0


00:13:4F:00:8E:E5 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-64

-96

48M

11M

0


00:13:4F:00:A6:E6 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-65

-96

36M

24M

0


00:13:4F:00:C3:91 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-77

-96

5M

12M

15


00:13:4F:00:B7:FA http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-82

-96

36M

1M

15


00:60:B3:59:89:54 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-72

-96

36M

18M

0


00:13:4F:00:C5:C4 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-77

-96

18M

12M

0


00:13:4F:00:A7:00 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-76

-96

11M

12M

15


00:0B:6B:37:E5:2B http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-67

-96

24M

36M

15


00:13:4F:10:01:D5 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-54

-96

11M

36M

0


00:13:4F:00:8B:83 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-68

-96

36M

18M

0


00:13:4F:00:D8:08 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-81

-96

12M

1M

0


00:13:4F:10:02:3E http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-73

-96

48M

12M

30


00:60:B3:E9:22:A0 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi 

-84

-96

1M

12M

0



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Re: [WISPA] Powerstation2 with very low throughput

2010-08-12 Thread RickG
I'm assuming you have, but I've never had much luck with G mode. With that
said, I just fixed a similar issue by using a a Bullet2HP (non M). -RickG

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz wrote:

  Hi Everyone,

 I had a bunch of my equipment burnt on a tower.  Previously I had all
 Tranzeo.  Now I put up a Powerstation2 for my main AP with a Tranzeo 17 dbi
 sector.  I'm getting a max throughput of around 3 mbits.  That's looking at
 the throughput graphs in the PS2.  Once I'm reaching that throughput though,
 pings to certain clients go way up to over 2 seconds.  I do my testing from
 linux, using

 ping IP -i .01 -s 1024  or even take the 1024 up to 2048.

 I can do this to 3 clients at 1024 packet size..Once I start pushing it
 to a 4th client, pings get lost and replies come back 2 seconds later.

 Is this normal??  I'm looking into it because I have clients complaining
 they loose connection completely sometimes.  When I ping to 3 clients, I can
 hardly ping any other clients.  no response.  I've pinged the AP during this
 whole time and it never flaps. Very solid at a few ms.

 The previous Tranzeo AP had no problems.  Clients are mostly Tranzeo SL2s
 and their distances vary from 1/2 mile to about 3 miles

 Here's the station list with their signal strength:

   Station MAC Signal, dBm Noise, dBm Tx Rate Rx Rate Idle (sec)
 00:15:6D:1A:0A:05 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -54 -96 48M 36M 0
 00:60:B3:E9:24:25 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -69 -96 24M 18M 0
 00:13:4F:10:09:0F http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -49 -96 48M 36M 0
 00:15:6D:1A:0F:D7 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -74 -96 11M 18M 0
 00:13:4F:00:C5:DB http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -78 -96 18M 5M 15
 00:1C:F0:EA:57:06 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -75 -96 11M 11M 0
 00:13:4F:00:C5:C2 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -72 -96 36M 18M 15
 00:60:B3:45:37:60 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -75 -96 11M 12M 0
 00:13:4F:00:97:96 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -52 -96 54M 36M 0
 00:13:4F:00:8E:E5 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -64 -96 48M 11M 0
 00:13:4F:00:A6:E6 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -65 -96 36M 24M 0
 00:13:4F:00:C3:91 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -77 -96 5M 12M 15
 00:13:4F:00:B7:FA http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -82 -96 36M 1M 15
 00:60:B3:59:89:54 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -72 -96 36M 18M 0
 00:13:4F:00:C5:C4 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -77 -96 18M 12M 0
 00:13:4F:00:A7:00 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -76 -96 11M 12M 15
 00:0B:6B:37:E5:2B http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -67 -96 24M 36M 15
 00:13:4F:10:01:D5 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -54 -96 11M 36M 0
 00:13:4F:00:8B:83 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -68 -96 36M 18M 0
 00:13:4F:00:D8:08 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -81 -96 12M 1M 0
 00:13:4F:10:02:3E http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -73 -96 48M 12M 30
 00:60:B3:E9:22:A0 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -84 -96 1M 12M 0

 Anyone have any idea what it could be?




 
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