Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
This looks a lot like multipath. What size grid are you using? For only 3 miles a small 15 dB or less panel should be more than enough. Try moving the end up or down, sometimes by only a couple of feet. marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 1:01 PM Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Here is a good one! I have a short link of about 3 miles from my main tower to another. On the main tower I have four UBNT 5G-20-90's with RockeyM5's running firmware 5.2. All have performed very well since I installed them earlier this year. On the other end at the problem tower I have a 26Db grid with a BulletM5 also running fw5.2. The link was doing well until two days ago. Then, the latency went through the roof. I assumed it was the radio but after switching it out twice, I decided to blame the antenna. So, I swapped out the grids multiple times. Then decided to try a Nanostation, and a Nanobridge but got worse results. I'd blame the sector on the main tower but another link on it remains working well. There is a topology difference between the working link and the poor link with the later being higher. There is some noise in the area but not unusual. What I do note is that the main tower does not see the far end very well (-78) and it should really be much higher. The receive rate is only 6.5Mbps. At any rate, I've got about 3 dozen subs on this tower and worked on it until 5am so I'm ready for some fresh input! Thanks in advance! -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
Look for things like buildings with new metal roofs etc. in the path... marlon - Original Message - From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 5:25 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance In my mind, you have eliminated mechanical and radio things. I take your alignment is right. I would at this point suspect interference. What has your weather been like? I have seen episodes of tropospheric ducting do that. I had episodes earlier this summer where I had several days of some serious ducting events. It's usually when a cooler layer of stale air is trapped by warmer upper air. Can you get your hands on an analyzer? Like I said, the Metageek WiSpy and software is a great little tool for the money. It runs great on my netbook. If I had a 5.8 version I'd overnight it to you. Friendly Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 6:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance No transmitters that I know of. There is a WISP with Canopy in the next town over but its at least 5 miles away. My magic wand broke too. Thanks! On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: The USB extension would be for the WiSpy device you'd hook to the antenna. That way you have plenty of cable and don't have to assume a difficult position. I have the 2.4G version of the WiSpy but not the 5.8. It can tell you a lot for a simple device. Is there any sort of nearby transmitter where they might have turned up the power? Did someone deploy Canopy close to you? I'd loan you my magic wand, but mine broke. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 7:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Yes, I use a netbook cause its so easy to take up the tower. I have no tried a USB cable on a Rocket yet but I added a spare Ethernet cable last night. No help. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: One of those MetaGeek things screwed into your antenna would tell you a lot. You'd have to carry a laptop (netbook!) and (do this!) carry a USB extension cable. If you are sending large packets to a local device with ping, and seeing loss, I would suspect the CAT5? Spare one up the tower? Can you pull a new one? Did you recrimp the ends? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 7:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Loss is right, Big time! The Ubiquiti spectrum analysis shows low noise across all bands. I think its about the same as when it was installed but not 100% sure. I'm also not sure if its enough to cause the issue I'm experiencing. Going up to swap the AP now...will advise. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: Send some really large packet count pings to the device. Do you see any loss? There might be an interference source that cropped up that the regular radio scanners won't see. Can you beg, borrow or make an analyzer? Friendly Regards, Mike WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
Rick I didn't read the entire thread, but generally when you see a low TX like that on Ubiquiti and the RSSI indicates it should be stronger it's an ACK issue, specifically too short of an ack calculation. Make sure you are using a fixed ACK on those, and that it is set high enough to cover the distance. Regards Michael Baird Nope. Crawling as it has been since Tuesday afternoon. 6.5Mbps tx is slw. Got some sleep so going back now. Any all ideas are welcome! On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net mailto:spie...@avolve.net wrote: But is it working now ? -- Original Message -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 07:39:06 -0400 Well, Faisal was kind enough to log into the AP (Rocket5 w/5G-20 sector) while I climbed up to align it. He said chain 0 1 were unbalanced. So, I changed out the radio, antenna, cables. Balance issue fixed but throughput to problem tower still bad. So, I went back to the problem tower and worked on it all night. I climbed so many times I lost count. I'm almost out of ideas. I did some spectrum analysis on a BM5 and a NanoBridge. I have attached an AP screen capture, a map of the tower link and ping scans of the 2 stations (one works well, the other does not) same AP, different locations. BTW: BIG THANKS to Faisal. He worked with me until 2:30am! He would've gone longer but I think he fell asleep while I was driving to the bad tower. I going to get some shut eye myself now. On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 2:48 AM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us mailto:rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: I've had several UBNT devices lose output power suddenly. Then one side of the link is about 18-20 db lower than the other, and the throughput goes away, badly. Do you have a large RXSL differences between sides on any link? ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 1:01 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Here is a good one! I have a short link of about 3 miles from my main tower to another. On the main tower I have four UBNT 5G-20-90's with RockeyM5's running firmware 5.2. All have performed very well since I installed them earlier this year. On the other end at the problem tower I have a 26Db grid with a BulletM5 also running fw5.2. The link was doing well until two days ago. Then, the latency went through the roof. I assumed it was the radio but after switching it out twice, I decided to blame the antenna. So, I swapped out the grids multiple times. Then decided to try a Nanostation, and a Nanobridge but got worse results. I'd blame the sector on the main tower but another link on it remains working well. There is a topology difference between the working link and the poor link with the later being higher. There is some noise in the area but not unusual. What I do note is that the main tower does not see the far end very well (-78) and it should really be much higher. The receive rate is only 6.5Mbps. At any rate, I've got about 3 dozen subs on this tower and worked on it until 5am so I'm ready for some fresh input! Thanks in advance! -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
Hey Marlon, Thanks for the input. One thing I put wrong here was the link is actually 6 miles. I doubt it's multipath though since both ends are on towers that are on hilltops much higher than the surrounding area with clear LOS. I tried several radios antenna combos though from big to small. It was the big Rocket5 Dish that finally fixed it. Thanks again! -RickG On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: This looks a lot like multipath. What size grid are you using? For only 3 miles a small 15 dB or less panel should be more than enough. Try moving the end up or down, sometimes by only a couple of feet. marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 1:01 PM Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Here is a good one! I have a short link of about 3 miles from my main tower to another. On the main tower I have four UBNT 5G-20-90's with RockeyM5's running firmware 5.2. All have performed very well since I installed them earlier this year. On the other end at the problem tower I have a 26Db grid with a BulletM5 also running fw5.2. The link was doing well until two days ago. Then, the latency went through the roof. I assumed it was the radio but after switching it out twice, I decided to blame the antenna. So, I swapped out the grids multiple times. Then decided to try a Nanostation, and a Nanobridge but got worse results. I'd blame the sector on the main tower but another link on it remains working well. There is a topology difference between the working link and the poor link with the later being higher. There is some noise in the area but not unusual. What I do note is that the main tower does not see the far end very well (-78) and it should really be much higher. The receive rate is only 6.5Mbps. At any rate, I've got about 3 dozen subs on this tower and worked on it until 5am so I'm ready for some fresh input! Thanks in advance! -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
Michael, Thanks for the tip. I saw you mentioned this previously and fixed a few flaky issues by turning off auto. Thanks again! -RickG On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote: Rick I didn't read the entire thread, but generally when you see a low TX like that on Ubiquiti and the RSSI indicates it should be stronger it's an ACK issue, specifically too short of an ack calculation. Make sure you are using a fixed ACK on those, and that it is set high enough to cover the distance. Regards Michael Baird Nope. Crawling as it has been since Tuesday afternoon. 6.5Mbps tx is slw. Got some sleep so going back now. Any all ideas are welcome! On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net wrote: But is it working now ? -- Original Message -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 07:39:06 -0400 Well, Faisal was kind enough to log into the AP (Rocket5 w/5G-20 sector) while I climbed up to align it. He said chain 0 1 were unbalanced. So, I changed out the radio, antenna, cables. Balance issue fixed but throughput to problem tower still bad. So, I went back to the problem tower and worked on it all night. I climbed so many times I lost count. I'm almost out of ideas. I did some spectrum analysis on a BM5 and a NanoBridge. I have attached an AP screen capture, a map of the tower link and ping scans of the 2 stations (one works well, the other does not) same AP, different locations. BTW: BIG THANKS to Faisal. He worked with me until 2:30am! He would've gone longer but I think he fell asleep while I was driving to the bad tower. I going to get some shut eye myself now. On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 2:48 AM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: I've had several UBNT devices lose output power suddenly. Then one side of the link is about 18-20 db lower than the other, and the throughput goes away, badly. Do you have a large RXSL differences between sides on any link? ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 1:01 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Here is a good one! I have a short link of about 3 miles from my main tower to another. On the main tower I have four UBNT 5G-20-90's with RockeyM5's running firmware 5.2. All have performed very well since I installed them earlier this year. On the other end at the problem tower I have a 26Db grid with a BulletM5 also running fw5.2. The link was doing well until two days ago. Then, the latency went through the roof. I assumed it was the radio but after switching it out twice, I decided to blame the antenna. So, I swapped out the grids multiple times. Then decided to try a Nanostation, and a Nanobridge but got worse results. I'd blame the sector on the main tower but another link on it remains working well. There is a topology difference between the working link and the poor link with the later being higher. There is some noise in the area but not unusual. What I do note is that the main tower does not see the far end very well (-78) and it should really be much higher. The receive rate is only 6.5Mbps. At any rate, I've got about 3 dozen subs on this tower and worked on it until 5am so I'm ready for some fresh input! Thanks in advance! -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
You should be. LOL! NP. Call me monday when it comes back. J/K -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2010 00:04:08 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
I've had several UBNT devices lose output power suddenly. Then one side of the link is about 18-20 db lower than the other, and the throughput goes away, badly. Do you have a large RXSL differences between sides on any link? ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 1:01 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Here is a good one! I have a short link of about 3 miles from my main tower to another. On the main tower I have four UBNT 5G-20-90's with RockeyM5's running firmware 5.2. All have performed very well since I installed them earlier this year. On the other end at the problem tower I have a 26Db grid with a BulletM5 also running fw5.2. The link was doing well until two days ago. Then, the latency went through the roof. I assumed it was the radio but after switching it out twice, I decided to blame the antenna. So, I swapped out the grids multiple times. Then decided to try a Nanostation, and a Nanobridge but got worse results. I'd blame the sector on the main tower but another link on it remains working well. There is a topology difference between the working link and the poor link with the later being higher. There is some noise in the area but not unusual. What I do note is that the main tower does not see the far end very well (-78) and it should really be much higher. The receive rate is only 6.5Mbps. At any rate, I've got about 3 dozen subs on this tower and worked on it until 5am so I'm ready for some fresh input! Thanks in advance! -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
Funny timing for this discussion (which could be on the ubnt_users list) but I'm spending tonight with 12 Nano's and Loco's resetting them and uploading the latest firmware before putting them back in service. Here on my couch watching TV with my notebook and USB to my Ubiquiti's, how do YOU spend your evenings? :) Forbes On 8/5/2010 5:28 PM, RickG wrote: Yes, I use a netbook cause its so easy to take up the tower. I have no tried a USB cable on a Rocket yet but I added a spare Ethernet cable last night. No help. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Mikem...@aweiowa.com wrote: One of those MetaGeek things screwed into your antenna would tell you a lot. You'd have to carry a laptop (netbook!) and (do this!) carry a USB extension cable. If you are sending large packets to a local device with ping, and seeing loss, I would suspect the CAT5? Spare one up the tower? Can you pull a new one? Did you recrimp the ends? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 7:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Loss is right, Big time! The Ubiquiti spectrum analysis shows low noise across all bands. I think its about the same as when it was installed but not 100% sure. I'm also not sure if its enough to cause the issue I'm experiencing. Going up to swap the AP now...will advise. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Mikem...@aweiowa.com wrote: Send some really large packet count pings to the device. Do you see any loss? There might be an interference source that cropped up that the regular radio scanners won't see. Can you beg, borrow or make an analyzer? Friendly Regards, Mike WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
No transmitters that I know of. There is a WISP with Canopy in the next town over but its at least 5 miles away. My magic wand broke too. Thanks! On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: The USB extension would be for the WiSpy device you'd hook to the antenna. That way you have plenty of cable and don't have to assume a difficult position. I have the 2.4G version of the WiSpy but not the 5.8. It can tell you a lot for a simple device. Is there any sort of nearby transmitter where they might have turned up the power? Did someone deploy Canopy close to you? I'd loan you my magic wand, but mine broke. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 7:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Yes, I use a netbook cause its so easy to take up the tower. I have no tried a USB cable on a Rocket yet but I added a spare Ethernet cable last night. No help. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: One of those MetaGeek things screwed into your antenna would tell you a lot. You'd have to carry a laptop (netbook!) and (do this!) carry a USB extension cable. If you are sending large packets to a local device with ping, and seeing loss, I would suspect the CAT5? Spare one up the tower? Can you pull a new one? Did you recrimp the ends? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 7:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Loss is right, Big time! The Ubiquiti spectrum analysis shows low noise across all bands. I think its about the same as when it was installed but not 100% sure. I'm also not sure if its enough to cause the issue I'm experiencing. Going up to swap the AP now...will advise. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: Send some really large packet count pings to the device. Do you see any loss? There might be an interference source that cropped up that the regular radio scanners won't see. Can you beg, borrow or make an analyzer? Friendly Regards, Mike WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
But is it working now ? -- Original Message -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 07:39:06 -0400 Well, Faisal was kind enough to log into the AP (Rocket5 w/5G-20 sector) while I climbed up to align it. He said chain 0 1 were unbalanced. So, I changed out the radio, antenna, cables. Balance issue fixed but throughput to problem tower still bad. So, I went back to the problem tower and worked on it all night. I climbed so many times I lost count. I'm almost out of ideas. I did some spectrum analysis on a BM5 and a NanoBridge. I have attached an AP screen capture, a map of the tower link and ping scans of the 2 stations (one works well, the other does not) same AP, different locations. BTW: BIG THANKS to Faisal. He worked with me until 2:30am! He would've gone longer but I think he fell asleep while I was driving to the bad tower. I going to get some shut eye myself now. On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 2:48 AM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: I've had several UBNT devices lose output power suddenly. Then one side of the link is about 18-20 db lower than the other, and the throughput goes away, badly. Do you have a large RXSL differences between sides on any link? ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 1:01 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Here is a good one! I have a short link of about 3 miles from my main tower to another. On the main tower I have four UBNT 5G-20-90's with RockeyM5's running firmware 5.2. All have performed very well since I installed them earlier this year. On the other end at the problem tower I have a 26Db grid with a BulletM5 also running fw5.2. The link was doing well until two days ago. Then, the latency went through the roof. I assumed it was the radio but after switching it out twice, I decided to blame the antenna. So, I swapped out the grids multiple times. Then decided to try a Nanostation, and a Nanobridge but got worse results. I'd blame the sector on the main tower but another link on it remains working well. There is a topology difference between the working link and the poor link with the later being higher. There is some noise in the area but not unusual. What I do note is that the main tower does not see the far end very well (-78) and it should really be much higher. The receive rate is only 6.5Mbps. At any rate, I've got about 3 dozen subs on this tower and worked on it until 5am so I'm ready for some fresh input! Thanks in advance! -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
In my mind, you have eliminated mechanical and radio things. I take your alignment is right. I would at this point suspect interference. What has your weather been like? I have seen episodes of tropospheric ducting do that. I had episodes earlier this summer where I had several days of some serious ducting events. It's usually when a cooler layer of stale air is trapped by warmer upper air. Can you get your hands on an analyzer? Like I said, the Metageek WiSpy and software is a great little tool for the money. It runs great on my netbook. If I had a 5.8 version I'd overnight it to you. Friendly Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 6:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance No transmitters that I know of. There is a WISP with Canopy in the next town over but its at least 5 miles away. My magic wand broke too. Thanks! On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: The USB extension would be for the WiSpy device you'd hook to the antenna. That way you have plenty of cable and don't have to assume a difficult position. I have the 2.4G version of the WiSpy but not the 5.8. It can tell you a lot for a simple device. Is there any sort of nearby transmitter where they might have turned up the power? Did someone deploy Canopy close to you? I'd loan you my magic wand, but mine broke. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 7:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Yes, I use a netbook cause its so easy to take up the tower. I have no tried a USB cable on a Rocket yet but I added a spare Ethernet cable last night. No help. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: One of those MetaGeek things screwed into your antenna would tell you a lot. You'd have to carry a laptop (netbook!) and (do this!) carry a USB extension cable. If you are sending large packets to a local device with ping, and seeing loss, I would suspect the CAT5? Spare one up the tower? Can you pull a new one? Did you recrimp the ends? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 7:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Loss is right, Big time! The Ubiquiti spectrum analysis shows low noise across all bands. I think its about the same as when it was installed but not 100% sure. I'm also not sure if its enough to cause the issue I'm experiencing. Going up to swap the AP now...will advise. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: Send some really large packet count pings to the device. Do you see any loss? There might be an interference source that cropped up that the regular radio scanners won't see. Can you beg, borrow or make an analyzer? Friendly Regards, Mike WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
I'm familiar with that particular lifestyle. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 3:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Funny timing for this discussion (which could be on the ubnt_users list) but I'm spending tonight with 12 Nano's and Loco's resetting them and uploading the latest firmware before putting them back in service. Here on my couch watching TV with my notebook and USB to my Ubiquiti's, how do YOU spend your evenings? :) Forbes On 8/5/2010 5:28 PM, RickG wrote: Yes, I use a netbook cause its so easy to take up the tower. I have no tried a USB cable on a Rocket yet but I added a spare Ethernet cable last night. No help. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Mikem...@aweiowa.com wrote: One of those MetaGeek things screwed into your antenna would tell you a lot. You'd have to carry a laptop (netbook!) and (do this!) carry a USB extension cable. If you are sending large packets to a local device with ping, and seeing loss, I would suspect the CAT5? Spare one up the tower? Can you pull a new one? Did you recrimp the ends? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 7:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Loss is right, Big time! The Ubiquiti spectrum analysis shows low noise across all bands. I think its about the same as when it was installed but not 100% sure. I'm also not sure if its enough to cause the issue I'm experiencing. Going up to swap the AP now...will advise. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Mikem...@aweiowa.com wrote: Send some really large packet count pings to the device. Do you see any loss? There might be an interference source that cropped up that the regular radio scanners won't see. Can you beg, borrow or make an analyzer? Friendly Regards, Mike WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
Rick, Trying to reach you pls call... Thanks. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 On 8/6/2010 7:17 AM, RickG wrote: No transmitters that I know of. There is a WISP with Canopy in the next town over but its at least 5 miles away. My magic wand broke too. Thanks! On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Mikem...@aweiowa.com wrote: The USB extension would be for the WiSpy device you'd hook to the antenna. That way you have plenty of cable and don't have to assume a difficult position. I have the 2.4G version of the WiSpy but not the 5.8. It can tell you a lot for a simple device. Is there any sort of nearby transmitter where they might have turned up the power? Did someone deploy Canopy close to you? I'd loan you my magic wand, but mine broke. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 7:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Yes, I use a netbook cause its so easy to take up the tower. I have no tried a USB cable on a Rocket yet but I added a spare Ethernet cable last night. No help. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Mikem...@aweiowa.com wrote: One of those MetaGeek things screwed into your antenna would tell you a lot. You'd have to carry a laptop (netbook!) and (do this!) carry a USB extension cable. If you are sending large packets to a local device with ping, and seeing loss, I would suspect the CAT5? Spare one up the tower? Can you pull a new one? Did you recrimp the ends? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 7:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Loss is right, Big time! The Ubiquiti spectrum analysis shows low noise across all bands. I think its about the same as when it was installed but not 100% sure. I'm also not sure if its enough to cause the issue I'm experiencing. Going up to swap the AP now...will advise. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Mikem...@aweiowa.com wrote: Send some really large packet count pings to the device. Do you see any loss? There might be an interference source that cropped up that the regular radio scanners won't see. Can you beg, borrow or make an analyzer? Friendly Regards, Mike WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
Nope. Crawling as it has been since Tuesday afternoon. 6.5Mbps tx is slw. Got some sleep so going back now. Any all ideas are welcome! On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net wrote: But is it working now ? -- Original Message -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 07:39:06 -0400 Well, Faisal was kind enough to log into the AP (Rocket5 w/5G-20 sector) while I climbed up to align it. He said chain 0 1 were unbalanced. So, I changed out the radio, antenna, cables. Balance issue fixed but throughput to problem tower still bad. So, I went back to the problem tower and worked on it all night. I climbed so many times I lost count. I'm almost out of ideas. I did some spectrum analysis on a BM5 and a NanoBridge. I have attached an AP screen capture, a map of the tower link and ping scans of the 2 stations (one works well, the other does not) same AP, different locations. BTW: BIG THANKS to Faisal. He worked with me until 2:30am! He would've gone longer but I think he fell asleep while I was driving to the bad tower. I going to get some shut eye myself now. On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 2:48 AM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: I've had several UBNT devices lose output power suddenly. Then one side of the link is about 18-20 db lower than the other, and the throughput goes away, badly. Do you have a large RXSL differences between sides on any link? ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 1:01 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Here is a good one! I have a short link of about 3 miles from my main tower to another. On the main tower I have four UBNT 5G-20-90's with RockeyM5's running firmware 5.2. All have performed very well since I installed them earlier this year. On the other end at the problem tower I have a 26Db grid with a BulletM5 also running fw5.2. The link was doing well until two days ago. Then, the latency went through the roof. I assumed it was the radio but after switching it out twice, I decided to blame the antenna. So, I swapped out the grids multiple times. Then decided to try a Nanostation, and a Nanobridge but got worse results. I'd blame the sector on the main tower but another link on it remains working well. There is a topology difference between the working link and the poor link with the later being higher. There is some noise in the area but not unusual. What I do note is that the main tower does not see the far end very well (-78) and it should really be much higher. The receive rate is only 6.5Mbps. At any rate, I've got about 3 dozen subs on this tower and worked on it until 5am so I'm ready for some fresh input! Thanks in advance! -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
Weather has been hot humid. You think I can get better info with an analyzer than the built in Ubiquiti? On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: In my mind, you have eliminated mechanical and radio things. I take your alignment is right. I would at this point suspect interference. What has your weather been like? I have seen episodes of tropospheric ducting do that. I had episodes earlier this summer where I had several days of some serious ducting events. It's usually when a cooler layer of stale air is trapped by warmer upper air. Can you get your hands on an analyzer? Like I said, the Metageek WiSpy and software is a great little tool for the money. It runs great on my netbook. If I had a 5.8 version I'd overnight it to you. Friendly Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 6:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance No transmitters that I know of. There is a WISP with Canopy in the next town over but its at least 5 miles away. My magic wand broke too. Thanks! On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: The USB extension would be for the WiSpy device you'd hook to the antenna. That way you have plenty of cable and don't have to assume a difficult position. I have the 2.4G version of the WiSpy but not the 5.8. It can tell you a lot for a simple device. Is there any sort of nearby transmitter where they might have turned up the power? Did someone deploy Canopy close to you? I'd loan you my magic wand, but mine broke. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 7:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Yes, I use a netbook cause its so easy to take up the tower. I have no tried a USB cable on a Rocket yet but I added a spare Ethernet cable last night. No help. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: One of those MetaGeek things screwed into your antenna would tell you a lot. You'd have to carry a laptop (netbook!) and (do this!) carry a USB extension cable. If you are sending large packets to a local device with ping, and seeing loss, I would suspect the CAT5? Spare one up the tower? Can you pull a new one? Did you recrimp the ends? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 7:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Loss is right, Big time! The Ubiquiti spectrum analysis shows low noise across all bands. I think its about the same as when it was installed but not 100% sure. I'm also not sure if its enough to cause the issue I'm experiencing. Going up to swap the AP now...will advise. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: Send some really large packet count pings to the device. Do you see any loss? There might be an interference source that cropped up that the regular radio scanners won't see. Can you beg, borrow or make an analyzer? Friendly Regards, Mike WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
Read my lips: heck yes!!! _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 1:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Weather has been hot humid. You think I can get better info with an analyzer than the built in Ubiquiti? On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: In my mind, you have eliminated mechanical and radio things. I take your alignment is right. I would at this point suspect interference. What has your weather been like? I have seen episodes of tropospheric ducting do that. I had episodes earlier this summer where I had several days of some serious ducting events. It's usually when a cooler layer of stale air is trapped by warmer upper air. Can you get your hands on an analyzer? Like I said, the Metageek WiSpy and software is a great little tool for the money. It runs great on my netbook. If I had a 5.8 version I'd overnight it to you. Friendly Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 6:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance No transmitters that I know of. There is a WISP with Canopy in the next town over but its at least 5 miles away. My magic wand broke too. Thanks! On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: The USB extension would be for the WiSpy device you'd hook to the antenna. That way you have plenty of cable and don't have to assume a difficult position. I have the 2.4G version of the WiSpy but not the 5.8. It can tell you a lot for a simple device. Is there any sort of nearby transmitter where they might have turned up the power? Did someone deploy Canopy close to you? I'd loan you my magic wand, but mine broke. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 7:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Yes, I use a netbook cause its so easy to take up the tower. I have no tried a USB cable on a Rocket yet but I added a spare Ethernet cable last night. No help. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: One of those MetaGeek things screwed into your antenna would tell you a lot. You'd have to carry a laptop (netbook!) and (do this!) carry a USB extension cable. If you are sending large packets to a local device with ping, and seeing loss, I would suspect the CAT5? Spare one up the tower? Can you pull a new one? Did you recrimp the ends? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 7:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Loss is right, Big time! The Ubiquiti spectrum analysis shows low noise across all bands. I think its about the same as when it was installed but not 100% sure. I'm also not sure if its enough to cause the issue I'm experiencing. Going up to swap the AP now...will advise. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: Send some really large packet count pings to the device. Do you see any loss? There might be an interference source that cropped up that the regular radio scanners won't see. Can you beg, borrow or make an analyzer? Friendly Regards, Mike WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
Is one end lower than the other? If so, there could be a duct that is steering the signal or reflecting it away from the intended path. Generally though, that would be reciprocal, but not always. I had a tropospheric event this morning. Such events are way beyond the statistical norm for my area already this year. Friendly Regards, Mike _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 1:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Weather has been hot humid. You think I can get better info with an analyzer than the built in Ubiquiti? On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: In my mind, you have eliminated mechanical and radio things. I take your alignment is right. I would at this point suspect interference. What has your weather been like? I have seen episodes of tropospheric ducting do that. I had episodes earlier this summer where I had several days of some serious ducting events. It's usually when a cooler layer of stale air is trapped by warmer upper air. Can you get your hands on an analyzer? Like I said, the Metageek WiSpy and software is a great little tool for the money. It runs great on my netbook. If I had a 5.8 version I'd overnight it to you. Friendly Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 6:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance No transmitters that I know of. There is a WISP with Canopy in the next town over but its at least 5 miles away. My magic wand broke too. Thanks! On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: The USB extension would be for the WiSpy device you'd hook to the antenna. That way you have plenty of cable and don't have to assume a difficult position. I have the 2.4G version of the WiSpy but not the 5.8. It can tell you a lot for a simple device. Is there any sort of nearby transmitter where they might have turned up the power? Did someone deploy Canopy close to you? I'd loan you my magic wand, but mine broke. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 7:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Yes, I use a netbook cause its so easy to take up the tower. I have no tried a USB cable on a Rocket yet but I added a spare Ethernet cable last night. No help. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: One of those MetaGeek things screwed into your antenna would tell you a lot. You'd have to carry a laptop (netbook!) and (do this!) carry a USB extension cable. If you are sending large packets to a local device with ping, and seeing loss, I would suspect the CAT5? Spare one up the tower? Can you pull a new one? Did you recrimp the ends? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 7:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Loss is right, Big time! The Ubiquiti spectrum analysis shows low noise across all bands. I think its about the same as when it was installed but not 100% sure. I'm also not sure if its enough to cause the issue I'm experiencing. Going up to swap the AP now...will advise. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: Send some really large packet count pings to the device. Do you see any loss? There might be an interference source that cropped up that the regular radio scanners won't see. Can you beg, borrow or make an analyzer? Friendly Regards, Mike WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
How about insufficient power to the radio? - Original Message - From: Mike To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Is one end lower than the other? If so, there could be a duct that is steering the signal or reflecting it away from the intended path. Generally though, that would be reciprocal, but not always. I had a tropospheric event this morning. Such events are way beyond the statistical norm for my area already this year. Friendly Regards, Mike -- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 1:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Weather has been hot humid. You think I can get better info with an analyzer than the built in Ubiquiti? On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: In my mind, you have eliminated mechanical and radio things. I take your alignment is right. I would at this point suspect interference. What has your weather been like? I have seen episodes of tropospheric ducting do that. I had episodes earlier this summer where I had several days of some serious ducting events. It's usually when a cooler layer of stale air is trapped by warmer upper air. Can you get your hands on an analyzer? Like I said, the Metageek WiSpy and software is a great little tool for the money. It runs great on my netbook. If I had a 5.8 version I'd overnight it to you. Friendly Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 6:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance No transmitters that I know of. There is a WISP with Canopy in the next town over but its at least 5 miles away. My magic wand broke too. Thanks! On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: The USB extension would be for the WiSpy device you'd hook to the antenna. That way you have plenty of cable and don't have to assume a difficult position. I have the 2.4G version of the WiSpy but not the 5.8. It can tell you a lot for a simple device. Is there any sort of nearby transmitter where they might have turned up the power? Did someone deploy Canopy close to you? I'd loan you my magic wand, but mine broke. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 7:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Yes, I use a netbook cause its so easy to take up the tower. I have no tried a USB cable on a Rocket yet but I added a spare Ethernet cable last night. No help. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: One of those MetaGeek things screwed into your antenna would tell you a lot. You'd have to carry a laptop (netbook!) and (do this!) carry a USB extension cable. If you are sending large packets to a local device with ping, and seeing loss, I would suspect the CAT5? Spare one up the tower? Can you pull a new one? Did you recrimp the ends? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 7:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Loss is right, Big time! The Ubiquiti spectrum analysis shows low noise across all bands. I think its about the same as when it was installed but not 100% sure. I'm also not sure if its enough to cause the issue I'm experiencing. Going up to swap the AP now...will advise. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: Send some really large packet count pings to the device. Do you see any loss? There might be an interference source that cropped up that the regular radio scanners won't see. Can you beg, borrow or make an analyzer? Friendly Regards, Mike WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
Faisal. The RDP ID is kywifi PW=kywifi859 New Rocket Dish is 10.10.100.20 ID=admin PW=1qazxsw2 Let me know your thoughts. Thanks! -RickG On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: I also have never tried to connect a netbook to the rocket usb hmmm what can u do with that ? Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 8/5/2010 8:28 PM, RickG wrote: Yes, I use a netbook cause its so easy to take up the tower. I have no tried a USB cable on a Rocket yet but I added a spare Ethernet cable last night. No help. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Mikem...@aweiowa.com wrote: One of those MetaGeek things screwed into your antenna would tell you a lot. You'd have to carry a laptop (netbook!) and (do this!) carry a USB extension cable. If you are sending large packets to a local device with ping, and seeing loss, I would suspect the CAT5? Spare one up the tower? Can you pull a new one? Did you recrimp the ends? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 7:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Loss is right, Big time! The Ubiquiti spectrum analysis shows low noise across all bands. I think its about the same as when it was installed but not 100% sure. I'm also not sure if its enough to cause the issue I'm experiencing. Going up to swap the AP now...will advise. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Mikem...@aweiowa.com wrote: Send some really large packet count pings to the device. Do you see any loss? There might be an interference source that cropped up that the regular radio scanners won't see. Can you beg, borrow or make an analyzer? Friendly Regards, Mike WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
LOL! I'm tired and sent this to the whole list! Anyone else wanna looksee? On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 5:57 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Faisal. The RDP ID is kywifi PW=kywifi859 New Rocket Dish is 10.10.100.20 ID=admin PW=1qazxsw2 Let me know your thoughts. Thanks! -RickG On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.netwrote: I also have never tried to connect a netbook to the rocket usb hmmm what can u do with that ? Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 8/5/2010 8:28 PM, RickG wrote: Yes, I use a netbook cause its so easy to take up the tower. I have no tried a USB cable on a Rocket yet but I added a spare Ethernet cable last night. No help. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Mikem...@aweiowa.com wrote: One of those MetaGeek things screwed into your antenna would tell you a lot. You'd have to carry a laptop (netbook!) and (do this!) carry a USB extension cable. If you are sending large packets to a local device with ping, and seeing loss, I would suspect the CAT5? Spare one up the tower? Can you pull a new one? Did you recrimp the ends? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 7:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Loss is right, Big time! The Ubiquiti spectrum analysis shows low noise across all bands. I think its about the same as when it was installed but not 100% sure. I'm also not sure if its enough to cause the issue I'm experiencing. Going up to swap the AP now...will advise. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Mikem...@aweiowa.com wrote: Send some really large packet count pings to the device. Do you see any loss? There might be an interference source that cropped up that the regular radio scanners won't see. Can you beg, borrow or make an analyzer? Friendly Regards, Mike WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
OK Nevermind. Don't call me RickG wrote: I thought of that too but no help. But I just finished installing a Rocket5 Dish and the problem is now FIXED! It must be interference for the local industrial park the link has to cross. Lookin much better (see attached). THANKS TO ALL FOR BEING MY SECOND SET OF EYES! On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Mark Nash - Lists markl...@uwol.net mailto:markl...@uwol.net wrote: How about insufficient power to the radio? - Original Message - *From:* Mike mailto:m...@aweiowa.com *To:* 'WISPA General List' mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Friday, August 06, 2010 11:47 AM *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Is one end lower than the other? If so, there could be a duct that is steering the signal or reflecting it away from the intended path. Generally though, that would be reciprocal, but not always. I had a tropospheric event this morning. Such events are way beyond the statistical norm for my area already this year. Friendly Regards, Mike *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *RickG *Sent:* Friday, August 06, 2010 1:12 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Weather has been hot humid. You think I can get better info with an analyzer than the built in Ubiquiti? On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com mailto:m...@aweiowa.com wrote: In my mind, you have eliminated mechanical and radio things. I take your alignment is right. I would at this point suspect interference. What has your weather been like? I have seen episodes of tropospheric ducting do that. I had episodes earlier this summer where I had several days of some serious ducting events. It's usually when a cooler layer of stale air is trapped by warmer upper air. Can you get your hands on an analyzer? Like I said, the Metageek WiSpy and software is a great little tool for the money. It runs great on my netbook. If I had a 5.8 version I'd overnight it to you. Friendly Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 6:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance No transmitters that I know of. There is a WISP with Canopy in the next town over but its at least 5 miles away. My magic wand broke too. Thanks! On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com mailto:m...@aweiowa.com wrote: The USB extension would be for the WiSpy device you'd hook to the antenna. That way you have plenty of cable and don't have to assume a difficult position. I have the 2.4G version of the WiSpy but not the 5.8. It can tell you a lot for a simple device. Is there any sort of nearby transmitter where they might have turned up the power? Did someone deploy Canopy close to you? I'd loan you my magic wand, but mine broke. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 7:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Yes, I use a netbook cause its so easy to take up the tower. I have no tried a USB cable on a Rocket yet but I added a spare Ethernet cable last night. No help. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com mailto:m...@aweiowa.com wrote: One of those MetaGeek things screwed into your antenna would tell you a lot. You'd have to carry a laptop (netbook!) and (do this!) carry a USB extension cable. If you are sending large packets to a local device with ping, and seeing loss, I
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
Rick, Where were you scanning from when you got this? Scanned 10.10.31.1 - 10.10.31.55 8/6/2010 7:22:04 AM IPPing Hostname 10.10.31.12 ms N/A 10.10.31.3158 msN/A 10.10.31.4637 msN/A 10.10.31.22 547 msN/A 10.10.31.21 567 msN/A 10.10.31.23 567 msN/A 10.10.31.26 711 msN/A 10.10.31.29 859 msN/A 10.10.31.32 852 msN/A 10.10.31.39 774 msN/A 10.10.31.43 676 msN/A 10.10.31.44 898 msN/A 10.10.31.47 885 msN/A 10.10.31.48 1289 ms N/A 10.10.31.27 704 msN/A 10.10.31.25 1234 ms N/A 10.10.31.28 784 msN/A I am assuming from the AP (or before it) because the 31.1 radio has 2 ms ping time. I wouldn't think one bad sub would be causing ping times like this across the wireless network unless it was flooding the pipe. We see these results (albeit different manufacturers equipment) when clients have viruses or they tank the network when they are not throttled. I just hope you are not seeing better results because Mike the Porn King shut his laptop off and took it home at the end of his work week. :-) -B- RickG wrote: I thought of that too but no help. But I just finished installing a Rocket5 Dish and the problem is now FIXED! It must be interference for the local industrial park the link has to cross. Lookin much better (see attached). THANKS TO ALL FOR BEING MY SECOND SET OF EYES! On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Mark Nash - Lists markl...@uwol.net mailto:markl...@uwol.net wrote: How about insufficient power to the radio? - Original Message - *From:* Mike mailto:m...@aweiowa.com *To:* 'WISPA General List' mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Friday, August 06, 2010 11:47 AM *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Is one end lower than the other? If so, there could be a duct that is steering the signal or reflecting it away from the intended path. Generally though, that would be reciprocal, but not always. I had a tropospheric event this morning. Such events are way beyond the statistical norm for my area already this year. Friendly Regards, Mike *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *RickG *Sent:* Friday, August 06, 2010 1:12 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Weather has been hot humid. You think I can get better info with an analyzer than the built in Ubiquiti? On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com mailto:m...@aweiowa.com wrote: In my mind, you have eliminated mechanical and radio things. I take your alignment is right. I would at this point suspect interference. What has your weather been like? I have seen episodes of tropospheric ducting do that. I had episodes earlier this summer where I had several days of some serious ducting events. It's usually when a cooler layer of stale air is trapped by warmer upper air. Can you get your hands on an analyzer? Like I said, the Metageek WiSpy and software is a great little tool for the money. It runs great on my netbook. If I had a 5.8 version I'd overnight it to you. Friendly Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 6:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
Thanks for the offer! On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: OK Nevermind. Don't call me RickG wrote: I thought of that too but no help. But I just finished installing a Rocket5 Dish and the problem is now FIXED! It must be interference for the local industrial park the link has to cross. Lookin much better (see attached). THANKS TO ALL FOR BEING MY SECOND SET OF EYES! On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Mark Nash - Lists markl...@uwol.net mailto:markl...@uwol.net wrote: How about insufficient power to the radio? - Original Message - *From:* Mike mailto:m...@aweiowa.com *To:* 'WISPA General List' mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Friday, August 06, 2010 11:47 AM *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Is one end lower than the other? If so, there could be a duct that is steering the signal or reflecting it away from the intended path. Generally though, that would be reciprocal, but not always. I had a tropospheric event this morning. Such events are way beyond the statistical norm for my area already this year. Friendly Regards, Mike *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *RickG *Sent:* Friday, August 06, 2010 1:12 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Weather has been hot humid. You think I can get better info with an analyzer than the built in Ubiquiti? On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com mailto:m...@aweiowa.com wrote: In my mind, you have eliminated mechanical and radio things. I take your alignment is right. I would at this point suspect interference. What has your weather been like? I have seen episodes of tropospheric ducting do that. I had episodes earlier this summer where I had several days of some serious ducting events. It's usually when a cooler layer of stale air is trapped by warmer upper air. Can you get your hands on an analyzer? Like I said, the Metageek WiSpy and software is a great little tool for the money. It runs great on my netbook. If I had a 5.8 version I'd overnight it to you. Friendly Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 6:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance No transmitters that I know of. There is a WISP with Canopy in the next town over but its at least 5 miles away. My magic wand broke too. Thanks! On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com mailto:m...@aweiowa.com wrote: The USB extension would be for the WiSpy device you'd hook to the antenna. That way you have plenty of cable and don't have to assume a difficult position. I have the 2.4G version of the WiSpy but not the 5.8. It can tell you a lot for a simple device. Is there any sort of nearby transmitter where they might have turned up the power? Did someone deploy Canopy close to you? I'd loan you my magic wand, but mine broke. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 7:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Yes, I use a netbook cause its so easy to take up the tower. I have no tried a USB cable on a Rocket yet but I added a spare Ethernet cable last night. No help. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com mailto:m...@aweiowa.com wrote: One of those MetaGeek things screwed into your antenna would tell you a lot. You'd have to carry a laptop (netbook!) and (do
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
Yes, from the AP. The new Rocket Dish has a huge improvement on tx signal. On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Rick, Where were you scanning from when you got this? Scanned 10.10.31.1 - 10.10.31.55 8/6/2010 7:22:04 AM IPPing Hostname 10.10.31.12 ms N/A 10.10.31.3158 msN/A 10.10.31.4637 msN/A 10.10.31.22 547 msN/A 10.10.31.21 567 msN/A 10.10.31.23 567 msN/A 10.10.31.26 711 msN/A 10.10.31.29 859 msN/A 10.10.31.32 852 msN/A 10.10.31.39 774 msN/A 10.10.31.43 676 msN/A 10.10.31.44 898 msN/A 10.10.31.47 885 msN/A 10.10.31.48 1289 ms N/A 10.10.31.27 704 msN/A 10.10.31.25 1234 ms N/A 10.10.31.28 784 msN/A I am assuming from the AP (or before it) because the 31.1 radio has 2 ms ping time. I wouldn't think one bad sub would be causing ping times like this across the wireless network unless it was flooding the pipe. We see these results (albeit different manufacturers equipment) when clients have viruses or they tank the network when they are not throttled. I just hope you are not seeing better results because Mike the Porn King shut his laptop off and took it home at the end of his work week. :-) -B- RickG wrote: I thought of that too but no help. But I just finished installing a Rocket5 Dish and the problem is now FIXED! It must be interference for the local industrial park the link has to cross. Lookin much better (see attached). THANKS TO ALL FOR BEING MY SECOND SET OF EYES! On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Mark Nash - Lists markl...@uwol.net mailto:markl...@uwol.net wrote: How about insufficient power to the radio? - Original Message - *From:* Mike mailto:m...@aweiowa.com *To:* 'WISPA General List' mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Friday, August 06, 2010 11:47 AM *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Is one end lower than the other? If so, there could be a duct that is steering the signal or reflecting it away from the intended path. Generally though, that would be reciprocal, but not always. I had a tropospheric event this morning. Such events are way beyond the statistical norm for my area already this year. Friendly Regards, Mike *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *RickG *Sent:* Friday, August 06, 2010 1:12 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Weather has been hot humid. You think I can get better info with an analyzer than the built in Ubiquiti? On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com mailto:m...@aweiowa.com wrote: In my mind, you have eliminated mechanical and radio things. I take your alignment is right. I would at this point suspect interference. What has your weather been like? I have seen episodes of tropospheric ducting do that. I had episodes earlier this summer where I had several days of some serious ducting events. It's usually when a cooler layer of stale air is trapped by warmer upper air. Can you get your hands on an analyzer? Like I said, the Metageek WiSpy and software is a great little tool for the money. It runs great on my netbook. If I had a 5.8 version I'd overnight it to you. Friendly Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 6:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance No transmitters that I know of. There is a WISP with Canopy in the next town over but its at least 5 miles away. My magic wand broke too. Thanks! On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com mailto:m
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
Yes, that was why I swapped in a NanoBridge since it has no cables. This was a great POP Quiz (pun intended). I've seen or heard of a lot of issues but the idea that something is broadcasting something strong enough to take out a short hop really makes you wonder what it is. Right now the Rocket Dish is my hero! On a side note: I'm having trouble with a 2.4GHz AP on another tower that points in the same direction as the industrial park that I suspect is the culprit. Thanks again to all that replied to my calls for help - especially Faisal. On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Jim Patient sa...@jeffcosoho.com wrote: I had an issue like this years ago that turned out to be my antenna cable picking up the signal from an FM transmitter. My LMR cable just happened to be the perfect length for an FM dipole. I Just had to make a little longer cable and it was fine. Not sure if this was your issue but it is something to keep in mind. Just cause it isn't your frequency, don't think it can't affect your equipment. No I wasn't smart enough to figure it out. On about the 15th trip to the ground I was telling one of the radio station engineers and he asked me how long my antenna cable was. He started giving me a class on harmonics and how they cross frequencies. I don't remember much of what he said but I Just got lucky that he was there or I would have still been changing dishes and radios;-) Jim On 8/6/2010 6:13 PM, RickG wrote: Yes, from the AP. The new Rocket Dish has a huge improvement on tx signal. On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Rick, Where were you scanning from when you got this? Scanned 10.10.31.1 - 10.10.31.55 8/6/2010 7:22:04 AM IPPing Hostname 10.10.31.12 ms N/A 10.10.31.3158 msN/A 10.10.31.4637 msN/A 10.10.31.22 547 msN/A 10.10.31.21 567 msN/A 10.10.31.23 567 msN/A 10.10.31.26 711 msN/A 10.10.31.29 859 msN/A 10.10.31.32 852 msN/A 10.10.31.39 774 msN/A 10.10.31.43 676 msN/A 10.10.31.44 898 msN/A 10.10.31.47 885 msN/A 10.10.31.48 1289 ms N/A 10.10.31.27 704 msN/A 10.10.31.25 1234 ms N/A 10.10.31.28 784 msN/A I am assuming from the AP (or before it) because the 31.1 radio has 2 ms ping time. I wouldn't think one bad sub would be causing ping times like this across the wireless network unless it was flooding the pipe. We see these results (albeit different manufacturers equipment) when clients have viruses or they tank the network when they are not throttled. I just hope you are not seeing better results because Mike the Porn King shut his laptop off and took it home at the end of his work week. :-) -B- RickG wrote: I thought of that too but no help. But I just finished installing a Rocket5 Dish and the problem is now FIXED! It must be interference for the local industrial park the link has to cross. Lookin much better (see attached). THANKS TO ALL FOR BEING MY SECOND SET OF EYES! On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Mark Nash - Lists markl...@uwol.net mailto:markl...@uwol.net wrote: How about insufficient power to the radio? - Original Message - *From:* Mike mailto:m...@aweiowa.com *To:* 'WISPA General List' mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Friday, August 06, 2010 11:47 AM *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Is one end lower than the other? If so, there could be a duct that is steering the signal or reflecting it away from the intended path. Generally though, that would be reciprocal, but not always. I had a tropospheric event this morning. Such events are way beyond the statistical norm for my area already this year. Friendly Regards, Mike *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *RickG *Sent:* Friday, August 06, 2010 1:12 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Weather has been hot humid. You think I can get better info with an analyzer than the built in Ubiquiti? On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com mailto:m...@aweiowa.com wrote: In my mind
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
Bob, I feel blessed that you offered. Sorry we didnt get to talk. Thanks! On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: OK Nevermind. Don't call me RickG wrote: I thought of that too but no help. But I just finished installing a Rocket5 Dish and the problem is now FIXED! It must be interference for the local industrial park the link has to cross. Lookin much better (see attached). THANKS TO ALL FOR BEING MY SECOND SET OF EYES! On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Mark Nash - Lists markl...@uwol.net mailto:markl...@uwol.net wrote: How about insufficient power to the radio? - Original Message - *From:* Mike mailto:m...@aweiowa.com *To:* 'WISPA General List' mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Friday, August 06, 2010 11:47 AM *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Is one end lower than the other? If so, there could be a duct that is steering the signal or reflecting it away from the intended path. Generally though, that would be reciprocal, but not always. I had a tropospheric event this morning. Such events are way beyond the statistical norm for my area already this year. Friendly Regards, Mike *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *RickG *Sent:* Friday, August 06, 2010 1:12 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Weather has been hot humid. You think I can get better info with an analyzer than the built in Ubiquiti? On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com mailto:m...@aweiowa.com wrote: In my mind, you have eliminated mechanical and radio things. I take your alignment is right. I would at this point suspect interference. What has your weather been like? I have seen episodes of tropospheric ducting do that. I had episodes earlier this summer where I had several days of some serious ducting events. It's usually when a cooler layer of stale air is trapped by warmer upper air. Can you get your hands on an analyzer? Like I said, the Metageek WiSpy and software is a great little tool for the money. It runs great on my netbook. If I had a 5.8 version I'd overnight it to you. Friendly Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 6:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance No transmitters that I know of. There is a WISP with Canopy in the next town over but its at least 5 miles away. My magic wand broke too. Thanks! On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com mailto:m...@aweiowa.com wrote: The USB extension would be for the WiSpy device you'd hook to the antenna. That way you have plenty of cable and don't have to assume a difficult position. I have the 2.4G version of the WiSpy but not the 5.8. It can tell you a lot for a simple device. Is there any sort of nearby transmitter where they might have turned up the power? Did someone deploy Canopy close to you? I'd loan you my magic wand, but mine broke. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 7:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Yes, I use a netbook cause its so easy to take up the tower. I have no tried a USB cable on a Rocket yet but I added a spare Ethernet cable last night. No help. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com mailto:m...@aweiowa.com wrote: One of those MetaGeek things screwed into your antenna would tell you a lot
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
Yes, but I'm not trying to live that lifestyle :) j/k ya! Thanks for the shoulder to cry on. -Rickeesha On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: I'm familiar with that particular lifestyle. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 3:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Funny timing for this discussion (which could be on the ubnt_users list) but I'm spending tonight with 12 Nano's and Loco's resetting them and uploading the latest firmware before putting them back in service. Here on my couch watching TV with my notebook and USB to my Ubiquiti's, how do YOU spend your evenings? :) Forbes On 8/5/2010 5:28 PM, RickG wrote: Yes, I use a netbook cause its so easy to take up the tower. I have no tried a USB cable on a Rocket yet but I added a spare Ethernet cable last night. No help. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Mikem...@aweiowa.com wrote: One of those MetaGeek things screwed into your antenna would tell you a lot. You'd have to carry a laptop (netbook!) and (do this!) carry a USB extension cable. If you are sending large packets to a local device with ping, and seeing loss, I would suspect the CAT5? Spare one up the tower? Can you pull a new one? Did you recrimp the ends? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 7:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Loss is right, Big time! The Ubiquiti spectrum analysis shows low noise across all bands. I think its about the same as when it was installed but not 100% sure. I'm also not sure if its enough to cause the issue I'm experiencing. Going up to swap the AP now...will advise. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Mikem...@aweiowa.com wrote: Send some really large packet count pings to the device. Do you see any loss? There might be an interference source that cropped up that the regular radio scanners won't see. Can you beg, borrow or make an analyzer? Friendly Regards, Mike WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
[WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
Here is a good one! I have a short link of about 3 miles from my main tower to another. On the main tower I have four UBNT 5G-20-90's with RockeyM5's running firmware 5.2. All have performed very well since I installed them earlier this year. On the other end at the problem tower I have a 26Db grid with a BulletM5 also running fw5.2. The link was doing well until two days ago. Then, the latency went through the roof. I assumed it was the radio but after switching it out twice, I decided to blame the antenna. So, I swapped out the grids multiple times. Then decided to try a Nanostation, and a Nanobridge but got worse results. I'd blame the sector on the main tower but another link on it remains working well. There is a topology difference between the working link and the poor link with the later being higher. There is some noise in the area but not unusual. What I do note is that the main tower does not see the far end very well (-78) and it should really be much higher. The receive rate is only 6.5Mbps. At any rate, I've got about 3 dozen subs on this tower and worked on it until 5am so I'm ready for some fresh input! Thanks in advance! -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
do the ususal stuff... Try changing channel ? Try to shrink the channel to 10mhz or 5mhz Any possibility of water in the cables ? or something phyiscally off with the coax jumpers ? (AP side ?) Since you have done everything on the far side. how about looking at the AP Side Run ...Airview to see if there is interference that is not being picked up on site survey ? Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 8/5/2010 4:01 PM, RickG wrote: Here is a good one! I have a short link of about 3 miles from my main tower to another. On the main tower I have four UBNT 5G-20-90's with RockeyM5's running firmware 5.2. All have performed very well since I installed them earlier this year. On the other end at the problem tower I have a 26Db grid with a BulletM5 also running fw5.2. The link was doing well until two days ago. Then, the latency went through the roof. I assumed it was the radio but after switching it out twice, I decided to blame the antenna. So, I swapped out the grids multiple times. Then decided to try a Nanostation, and a Nanobridge but got worse results. I'd blame the sector on the main tower but another link on it remains working well. There is a topology difference between the working link and the poor link with the later being higher. There is some noise in the area but not unusual. What I do note is that the main tower does not see the far end very well (-78) and it should really be much higher. The receive rate is only 6.5Mbps. At any rate, I've got about 3 dozen subs on this tower and worked on it until 5am so I'm ready for some fresh input! Thanks in advance! -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
Faisal, I was hoping you would reply! My answers inline below: On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: do the ususal stuff... Try changing channel ? Yes. Tried all available channels. Try to shrink the channel to 10mhz or 5mhz Yes. Results were just as bad if not worse. Any possibility of water in the cables ? or something phyiscally off with the coax jumpers ? I tried multiple new cables. Plus, eliminated cables by using the Nanobridge. (AP side ?) Since you have done everything on the far side. how about looking at the AP Side It's possible. Going there now. But, other link off sector is working well albeit a bit degraded compared to what it was when originally installed. Run ...Airview to see if there is interference that is not being picked up on site survey ? Airview channel usage attached. I didnt realize you have to save each scan separately. WIll get all results later. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 8/5/2010 4:01 PM, RickG wrote: Here is a good one! I have a short link of about 3 miles from my main tower to another. On the main tower I have four UBNT 5G-20-90's with RockeyM5's running firmware 5.2. All have performed very well since I installed them earlier this year. On the other end at the problem tower I have a 26Db grid with a BulletM5 also running fw5.2. The link was doing well until two days ago. Then, the latency went through the roof. I assumed it was the radio but after switching it out twice, I decided to blame the antenna. So, I swapped out the grids multiple times. Then decided to try a Nanostation, and a Nanobridge but got worse results. I'd blame the sector on the main tower but another link on it remains working well. There is a topology difference between the working link and the poor link with the later being higher. There is some noise in the area but not unusual. What I do note is that the main tower does not see the far end very well (-78) and it should really be much higher. The receive rate is only 6.5Mbps. At any rate, I've got about 3 dozen subs on this tower and worked on it until 5am so I'm ready for some fresh input! Thanks in advance! -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ attachment: TiptonRoad5HPOL-SA.png WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
Rick, I hate to ask what my be obvious Are you running through a switch? Could it be a negotiation issue? But, with the signal degradation, it sounds more like an antenna or water issue. -Gary- - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Faisal, I was hoping you would reply! My answers inline below: On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: do the ususal stuff... Try changing channel ? Yes. Tried all available channels. Try to shrink the channel to 10mhz or 5mhz Yes. Results were just as bad if not worse. Any possibility of water in the cables ? or something phyiscally off with the coax jumpers ? I tried multiple new cables. Plus, eliminated cables by using the Nanobridge. (AP side ?) Since you have done everything on the far side. how about looking at the AP Side It's possible. Going there now. But, other link off sector is working well albeit a bit degraded compared to what it was when originally installed. Run ...Airview to see if there is interference that is not being picked up on site survey ? Airview channel usage attached. I didnt realize you have to save each scan separately. WIll get all results later. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 8/5/2010 4:01 PM, RickG wrote: Here is a good one! I have a short link of about 3 miles from my main tower to another. On the main tower I have four UBNT 5G-20-90's with RockeyM5's running firmware 5.2. All have performed very well since I installed them earlier this year. On the other end at the problem tower I have a 26Db grid with a BulletM5 also running fw5.2. The link was doing well until two days ago. Then, the latency went through the roof. I assumed it was the radio but after switching it out twice, I decided to blame the antenna. So, I swapped out the grids multiple times. Then decided to try a Nanostation, and a Nanobridge but got worse results. I'd blame the sector on the main tower but another link on it remains working well. There is a topology difference between the working link and the poor link with the later being higher. There is some noise in the area but not unusual. What I do note is that the main tower does not see the far end very well (-78) and it should really be much higher. The receive rate is only 6.5Mbps. At any rate, I've got about 3 dozen subs on this tower and worked on it until 5am so I'm ready for some fresh input! Thanks in advance! -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
Did ack timing get off somehow? - Original Message - From: KosiNet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Rick, I hate to ask what my be obvious Are you running through a switch? Could it be a negotiation issue? But, with the signal degradation, it sounds more like an antenna or water issue. -Gary- - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Faisal, I was hoping you would reply! My answers inline below: On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: do the ususal stuff... Try changing channel ? Yes. Tried all available channels. Try to shrink the channel to 10mhz or 5mhz Yes. Results were just as bad if not worse. Any possibility of water in the cables ? or something phyiscally off with the coax jumpers ? I tried multiple new cables. Plus, eliminated cables by using the Nanobridge. (AP side ?) Since you have done everything on the far side. how about looking at the AP Side It's possible. Going there now. But, other link off sector is working well albeit a bit degraded compared to what it was when originally installed. Run ...Airview to see if there is interference that is not being picked up on site survey ? Airview channel usage attached. I didnt realize you have to save each scan separately. WIll get all results later. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 8/5/2010 4:01 PM, RickG wrote: Here is a good one! I have a short link of about 3 miles from my main tower to another. On the main tower I have four UBNT 5G-20-90's with RockeyM5's running firmware 5.2. All have performed very well since I installed them earlier this year. On the other end at the problem tower I have a 26Db grid with a BulletM5 also running fw5.2. The link was doing well until two days ago. Then, the latency went through the roof. I assumed it was the radio but after switching it out twice, I decided to blame the antenna. So, I swapped out the grids multiple times. Then decided to try a Nanostation, and a Nanobridge but got worse results. I'd blame the sector on the main tower but another link on it remains working well. There is a topology difference between the working link and the poor link with the later being higher. There is some noise in the area but not unusual. What I do note is that the main tower does not see the far end very well (-78) and it should really be much higher. The receive rate is only 6.5Mbps. At any rate, I've got about 3 dozen subs on this tower and worked on it until 5am so I'm ready for some fresh input! Thanks in advance! -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
I thought of the switch so I connected my laptop directly. Same issue. But, thanks for trying! On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 7:33 PM, KosiNet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com wrote: Rick, I hate to ask what my be obvious Are you running through a switch? Could it be a negotiation issue? But, with the signal degradation, it sounds more like an antenna or water issue. -Gary- - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Faisal, I was hoping you would reply! My answers inline below: On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: do the ususal stuff... Try changing channel ? Yes. Tried all available channels. Try to shrink the channel to 10mhz or 5mhz Yes. Results were just as bad if not worse. Any possibility of water in the cables ? or something phyiscally off with the coax jumpers ? I tried multiple new cables. Plus, eliminated cables by using the Nanobridge. (AP side ?) Since you have done everything on the far side. how about looking at the AP Side It's possible. Going there now. But, other link off sector is working well albeit a bit degraded compared to what it was when originally installed. Run ...Airview to see if there is interference that is not being picked up on site survey ? Airview channel usage attached. I didnt realize you have to save each scan separately. WIll get all results later. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 8/5/2010 4:01 PM, RickG wrote: Here is a good one! I have a short link of about 3 miles from my main tower to another. On the main tower I have four UBNT 5G-20-90's with RockeyM5's running firmware 5.2. All have performed very well since I installed them earlier this year. On the other end at the problem tower I have a 26Db grid with a BulletM5 also running fw5.2. The link was doing well until two days ago. Then, the latency went through the roof. I assumed it was the radio but after switching it out twice, I decided to blame the antenna. So, I swapped out the grids multiple times. Then decided to try a Nanostation, and a Nanobridge but got worse results. I'd blame the sector on the main tower but another link on it remains working well. There is a topology difference between the working link and the poor link with the later being higher. There is some noise in the area but not unusual. What I do note is that the main tower does not see the far end very well (-78) and it should really be much higher. The receive rate is only 6.5Mbps. At any rate, I've got about 3 dozen subs on this tower and worked on it until 5am so I'm ready for some fresh input! Thanks in advance! -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
Send some really large packet count pings to the device. Do you see any loss? There might be an interference source that cropped up that the regular radio scanners won't see. Can you beg, borrow or make an analyzer? Friendly Regards, Mike WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
I've tried manipulating it but no help either. I've been leaving the AP on automatic and manually adjusting the far end. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Mark Nash - Lists markl...@uwol.net wrote: Did ack timing get off somehow? - Original Message - From: KosiNet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Rick, I hate to ask what my be obvious Are you running through a switch? Could it be a negotiation issue? But, with the signal degradation, it sounds more like an antenna or water issue. -Gary- - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Faisal, I was hoping you would reply! My answers inline below: On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: do the ususal stuff... Try changing channel ? Yes. Tried all available channels. Try to shrink the channel to 10mhz or 5mhz Yes. Results were just as bad if not worse. Any possibility of water in the cables ? or something phyiscally off with the coax jumpers ? I tried multiple new cables. Plus, eliminated cables by using the Nanobridge. (AP side ?) Since you have done everything on the far side. how about looking at the AP Side It's possible. Going there now. But, other link off sector is working well albeit a bit degraded compared to what it was when originally installed. Run ...Airview to see if there is interference that is not being picked up on site survey ? Airview channel usage attached. I didnt realize you have to save each scan separately. WIll get all results later. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 8/5/2010 4:01 PM, RickG wrote: Here is a good one! I have a short link of about 3 miles from my main tower to another. On the main tower I have four UBNT 5G-20-90's with RockeyM5's running firmware 5.2. All have performed very well since I installed them earlier this year. On the other end at the problem tower I have a 26Db grid with a BulletM5 also running fw5.2. The link was doing well until two days ago. Then, the latency went through the roof. I assumed it was the radio but after switching it out twice, I decided to blame the antenna. So, I swapped out the grids multiple times. Then decided to try a Nanostation, and a Nanobridge but got worse results. I'd blame the sector on the main tower but another link on it remains working well. There is a topology difference between the working link and the poor link with the later being higher. There is some noise in the area but not unusual. What I do note is that the main tower does not see the far end very well (-78) and it should really be much higher. The receive rate is only 6.5Mbps. At any rate, I've got about 3 dozen subs on this tower and worked on it until 5am so I'm ready for some fresh input! Thanks in advance! -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
Loss is right, Big time! The Ubiquiti spectrum analysis shows low noise across all bands. I think its about the same as when it was installed but not 100% sure. I'm also not sure if its enough to cause the issue I'm experiencing. Going up to swap the AP now...will advise. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: Send some really large packet count pings to the device. Do you see any loss? There might be an interference source that cropped up that the regular radio scanners won't see. Can you beg, borrow or make an analyzer? Friendly Regards, Mike WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
One of those MetaGeek things screwed into your antenna would tell you a lot. You'd have to carry a laptop (netbook!) and (do this!) carry a USB extension cable. If you are sending large packets to a local device with ping, and seeing loss, I would suspect the CAT5? Spare one up the tower? Can you pull a new one? Did you recrimp the ends? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 7:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Loss is right, Big time! The Ubiquiti spectrum analysis shows low noise across all bands. I think its about the same as when it was installed but not 100% sure. I'm also not sure if its enough to cause the issue I'm experiencing. Going up to swap the AP now...will advise. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: Send some really large packet count pings to the device. Do you see any loss? There might be an interference source that cropped up that the regular radio scanners won't see. Can you beg, borrow or make an analyzer? Friendly Regards, Mike WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
Yes, I use a netbook cause its so easy to take up the tower. I have no tried a USB cable on a Rocket yet but I added a spare Ethernet cable last night. No help. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: One of those MetaGeek things screwed into your antenna would tell you a lot. You'd have to carry a laptop (netbook!) and (do this!) carry a USB extension cable. If you are sending large packets to a local device with ping, and seeing loss, I would suspect the CAT5? Spare one up the tower? Can you pull a new one? Did you recrimp the ends? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 7:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Loss is right, Big time! The Ubiquiti spectrum analysis shows low noise across all bands. I think its about the same as when it was installed but not 100% sure. I'm also not sure if its enough to cause the issue I'm experiencing. Going up to swap the AP now...will advise. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: Send some really large packet count pings to the device. Do you see any loss? There might be an interference source that cropped up that the regular radio scanners won't see. Can you beg, borrow or make an analyzer? Friendly Regards, Mike WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
I also have never tried to connect a netbook to the rocket usb hmmm what can u do with that ? Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 8/5/2010 8:28 PM, RickG wrote: Yes, I use a netbook cause its so easy to take up the tower. I have no tried a USB cable on a Rocket yet but I added a spare Ethernet cable last night. No help. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Mikem...@aweiowa.com wrote: One of those MetaGeek things screwed into your antenna would tell you a lot. You'd have to carry a laptop (netbook!) and (do this!) carry a USB extension cable. If you are sending large packets to a local device with ping, and seeing loss, I would suspect the CAT5? Spare one up the tower? Can you pull a new one? Did you recrimp the ends? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 7:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Loss is right, Big time! The Ubiquiti spectrum analysis shows low noise across all bands. I think its about the same as when it was installed but not 100% sure. I'm also not sure if its enough to cause the issue I'm experiencing. Going up to swap the AP now...will advise. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Mikem...@aweiowa.com wrote: Send some really large packet count pings to the device. Do you see any loss? There might be an interference source that cropped up that the regular radio scanners won't see. Can you beg, borrow or make an analyzer? Friendly Regards, Mike WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
Nothing. The USB port on the rocket is a USB host, not a USB device/client. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: I also have never tried to connect a netbook to the rocket usb hmmm what can u do with that ? Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 8/5/2010 8:28 PM, RickG wrote: Yes, I use a netbook cause its so easy to take up the tower. I have no tried a USB cable on a Rocket yet but I added a spare Ethernet cable last night. No help. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Mikem...@aweiowa.com wrote: One of those MetaGeek things screwed into your antenna would tell you a lot. You'd have to carry a laptop (netbook!) and (do this!) carry a USB extension cable. If you are sending large packets to a local device with ping, and seeing loss, I would suspect the CAT5? Spare one up the tower? Can you pull a new one? Did you recrimp the ends? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 7:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Loss is right, Big time! The Ubiquiti spectrum analysis shows low noise across all bands. I think its about the same as when it was installed but not 100% sure. I'm also not sure if its enough to cause the issue I'm experiencing. Going up to swap the AP now...will advise. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Mikem...@aweiowa.com wrote: Send some really large packet count pings to the device. Do you see any loss? There might be an interference source that cropped up that the regular radio scanners won't see. Can you beg, borrow or make an analyzer? Friendly Regards, Mike WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
The USB extension would be for the WiSpy device you'd hook to the antenna. That way you have plenty of cable and don't have to assume a difficult position. I have the 2.4G version of the WiSpy but not the 5.8. It can tell you a lot for a simple device. Is there any sort of nearby transmitter where they might have turned up the power? Did someone deploy Canopy close to you? I'd loan you my magic wand, but mine broke. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 7:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Yes, I use a netbook cause its so easy to take up the tower. I have no tried a USB cable on a Rocket yet but I added a spare Ethernet cable last night. No help. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: One of those MetaGeek things screwed into your antenna would tell you a lot. You'd have to carry a laptop (netbook!) and (do this!) carry a USB extension cable. If you are sending large packets to a local device with ping, and seeing loss, I would suspect the CAT5? Spare one up the tower? Can you pull a new one? Did you recrimp the ends? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 7:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Loss is right, Big time! The Ubiquiti spectrum analysis shows low noise across all bands. I think its about the same as when it was installed but not 100% sure. I'm also not sure if its enough to cause the issue I'm experiencing. Going up to swap the AP now...will advise. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: Send some really large packet count pings to the device. Do you see any loss? There might be an interference source that cropped up that the regular radio scanners won't see. Can you beg, borrow or make an analyzer? Friendly Regards, Mike WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
Sorry. My bad. Son needed better speed for the Mario cart (BOGUS) so I cranked up the power over FCC limits in his room. Fixed now. Sorry, Rickesha. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 8:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Yes, I use a netbook cause its so easy to take up the tower. I have no tried a USB cable on a Rocket yet but I added a spare Ethernet cable last night. No help. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: One of those MetaGeek things screwed into your antenna would tell you a lot. You'd have to carry a laptop (netbook!) and (do this!) carry a USB extension cable. If you are sending large packets to a local device with ping, and seeing loss, I would suspect the CAT5? Spare one up the tower? Can you pull a new one? Did you recrimp the ends? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 7:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance Loss is right, Big time! The Ubiquiti spectrum analysis shows low noise across all bands. I think its about the same as when it was installed but not 100% sure. I'm also not sure if its enough to cause the issue I'm experiencing. Going up to swap the AP now...will advise. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: Send some really large packet count pings to the device. Do you see any loss? There might be an interference source that cropped up that the regular radio scanners won't see. Can you beg, borrow or make an analyzer? Friendly Regards, Mike -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
