Re: [WISPA] Battery backup and monitoring
You could just use an APC system... might cost more but less tinkering to do. You can find good deals on eBay and other places... just buy new batteries 1400 series UPS's were our friend for Mesa's small sites. Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Adam Goodman Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 3:05 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Battery backup and monitoring I am looking for a solid solution for a site power backup and monitoring. It would be nice to put together a parts list and application notes. These are the points I came up with. 1. A good resilient Charger 2. Monitoring of AC power (on/off state, and maybe voltage too) 3. Monitor battery health 4. How to protection power supply, batteries and monitoring device from AC damages fluctuations and lightning storms. My systems usually require 24DC as well as 48DC (for the Orthogon stuff) -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Battery Backup
And how are you charging the batteries? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 4:37 PM Subject: [WISPA] Battery Backup I need help making a battery backup system. I attached pictures of what I have. It's a power inverter, auto transfer switch, Air Conditioner type disconnect, and a deep cycle marine battery. I want to do something like this at some remote sites. What can I do better, more efficient, maybe cheaper, or just different. I want to know all the options. Brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/435 - Release Date: 8/31/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Battery Backup
Bring the charger from home. Something comparable to this with a deep cell setting. http://www.qvc.com/asp/frameset.asp?aol_refer=falsemsn_refer=falsenest=http://www.qvc.com/scripts/detail.dll?item=V48949!tpl=DETAIL!ref=GBAref=GBAcm_ven= GOOGLEBASEcm_cat=HOME%20IMPROVEMENTcm_pla=HOME%20PROJECTScm_ite=V48949 Tom DeReggi wrote: And how are you charging the batteries? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 4:37 PM Subject: [WISPA] Battery Backup I need help making a battery backup system. I attached pictures of what I have. It's a power inverter, auto transfer switch, Air Conditioner type disconnect, and a deep cycle marine battery. I want to do something like this at some remote sites. What can I do better, more efficient, maybe cheaper, or just different. I want to know all the options. Brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/435 - Release Date: 8/31/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Battery Backup
I run one of my sites from 2 deep cycle batteries, an automatic charger and an inverter.Only trouble I ever had was it got too hot in the enclosure in teh summer and the inverter shut down. I even put in some ventilation and put the inveter in the path of the cool air and it still got too hot. Next year, we're going to have to completely re-do the whole concept. I still think I'm going to use the DC powered concept, though. +++ neofast.net - fast internet for North East Oregon and South East Washington email me at mark at neofast dot net 541-969-8200 Direct commercial inquiries to purchasing at neofast dot net - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Battery Backup I'm tempted to do something like that but not worry about the transfer switch. I'd just run off of 12 vdc all of the time. No power issues from outside that way! Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 1:37 PM Subject: [WISPA] Battery Backup I need help making a battery backup system. I attached pictures of what I have. It's a power inverter, auto transfer switch, Air Conditioner type disconnect, and a deep cycle marine battery. I want to do something like this at some remote sites. What can I do better, more efficient, maybe cheaper, or just different. I want to know all the options. Brian -- -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup
Great information Rick! I like you idea of gutting the unit. Our units are set with static IP addresses. They are at least a year old now...maybe they changed that to only allow DHCP in later revisions? Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 10:14 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup Brian, We made an inexpensive Rebootable UPS out of an APC BH500NET. It has a web interface to reboot the system and Ethernet ports to connect to. It was designed as a cheap office/residential device. Lowest price I can find today is $95. We gutted the components from the original case and put in a weatherproof Carlon box. It voids the warranty but gives you a nice little cheap unit for those remote sites. I just looked at the runtime on this unit and it says 53 minutes. It is drawing 40 watts of consumption. One thing we did have to do is write firewall rules to only allow access from our office IP range. It seems as though the http security is lax and is prone to hack attempts. The other fault of this unit is that you cannot assign it an IP address statically. It will pick up a DHCP address only, then you need to reserve that IP. It has it's drawbacks but for the money, it is a nice little tool. I took this up with APC support and they told me they had no intentions of rewriting the software to make it more manageable. I have included pictures of our final product. I'm not sure if this addresses your need but it is an option. Rick Harnish President Supernova Technologies, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 4:37 PM To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization Subject: [WISPA] Battery Backup I need help making a battery backup system. I attached pictures of what I have. It's a power inverter, auto transfer switch, Air Conditioner type disconnect, and a deep cycle marine battery. I want to do something like this at some remote sites. What can I do better, more efficient, maybe cheaper, or just different. I want to know all the options. Brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup
Brad - What model hardware do you have, and what software version? Thanks, -Russ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 12:30 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup Great information Rick! I like you idea of gutting the unit. Our units are set with static IP addresses. They are at least a year old now...maybe they changed that to only allow DHCP in later revisions? Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 10:14 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup Brian, We made an inexpensive Rebootable UPS out of an APC BH500NET. It has a web interface to reboot the system and Ethernet ports to connect to. It was designed as a cheap office/residential device. Lowest price I can find today is $95. We gutted the components from the original case and put in a weatherproof Carlon box. It voids the warranty but gives you a nice little cheap unit for those remote sites. I just looked at the runtime on this unit and it says 53 minutes. It is drawing 40 watts of consumption. One thing we did have to do is write firewall rules to only allow access from our office IP range. It seems as though the http security is lax and is prone to hack attempts. The other fault of this unit is that you cannot assign it an IP address statically. It will pick up a DHCP address only, then you need to reserve that IP. It has it's drawbacks but for the money, it is a nice little tool. I took this up with APC support and they told me they had no intentions of rewriting the software to make it more manageable. I have included pictures of our final product. I'm not sure if this addresses your need but it is an option. Rick Harnish President Supernova Technologies, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 4:37 PM To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization Subject: [WISPA] Battery Backup I need help making a battery backup system. I attached pictures of what I have. It's a power inverter, auto transfer switch, Air Conditioner type disconnect, and a deep cycle marine battery. I want to do something like this at some remote sites. What can I do better, more efficient, maybe cheaper, or just different. I want to know all the options. Brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Battery Backup
I'm tempted to do something like that but not worry about the transfer switch. I'd just run off of 12 vdc all of the time. No power issues from outside that way! Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 1:37 PM Subject: [WISPA] Battery Backup I need help making a battery backup system. I attached pictures of what I have. It's a power inverter, auto transfer switch, Air Conditioner type disconnect, and a deep cycle marine battery. I want to do something like this at some remote sites. What can I do better, more efficient, maybe cheaper, or just different. I want to know all the options. Brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup
Hello Russ, I believe the same as Rick...APC BH500NET. Nice little units, but I wish they had an Ethernet switch built-in rather than just a port. In all honesty I don't think I'd want production traffic passing through a UPS anyway, so the single port is fine. Technical Parameters Model: APC Back-UPS HS 500 Serial number: AB0** Firmware revision: l1 Web firmware revision: l2 UPS date of manufacture (mm-dd-): 06-18-2004 Battery replacement date (mm-dd-): 11-15-2004 Current Status Battery status: Charged Last transfer to battery was caused by: Blackout Result of last self-test is: None Load on Battery Backup Your battery backup is currently providing: 140 Watts Power Source: On-Line Battery Capacity: 100% Available Runtime: 12min Guess I've had this one for a bit longer than I remember...looks like we installed it 11-15-2004. It's running a P4 MikroTik multi-interface router along with several Trango radios at a remote HUB. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Russ Kreigh Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 11:41 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup Brad - What model hardware do you have, and what software version? Thanks, -Russ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 12:30 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup Great information Rick! I like you idea of gutting the unit. Our units are set with static IP addresses. They are at least a year old now...maybe they changed that to only allow DHCP in later revisions? Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 10:14 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup Brian, We made an inexpensive Rebootable UPS out of an APC BH500NET. It has a web interface to reboot the system and Ethernet ports to connect to. It was designed as a cheap office/residential device. Lowest price I can find today is $95. We gutted the components from the original case and put in a weatherproof Carlon box. It voids the warranty but gives you a nice little cheap unit for those remote sites. I just looked at the runtime on this unit and it says 53 minutes. It is drawing 40 watts of consumption. One thing we did have to do is write firewall rules to only allow access from our office IP range. It seems as though the http security is lax and is prone to hack attempts. The other fault of this unit is that you cannot assign it an IP address statically. It will pick up a DHCP address only, then you need to reserve that IP. It has it's drawbacks but for the money, it is a nice little tool. I took this up with APC support and they told me they had no intentions of rewriting the software to make it more manageable. I have included pictures of our final product. I'm not sure if this addresses your need but it is an option. Rick Harnish President Supernova Technologies, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 4:37 PM To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization Subject: [WISPA] Battery Backup I need help making a battery backup system. I attached pictures of what I have. It's a power inverter, auto transfer switch, Air Conditioner type disconnect, and a deep cycle marine battery. I want to do something like this at some remote sites. What can I do better, more efficient, maybe cheaper, or just different. I want to know all the options. Brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup
Those are some great pics Rick, Thanks! What is that other board you have in there? POE switch? Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 10:14 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup Brian, We made an inexpensive Rebootable UPS out of an APC BH500NET. It has a web interface to reboot the system and Ethernet ports to connect to. It was designed as a cheap office/residential device. Lowest price I can find today is $95. We gutted the components from the original case and put in a weatherproof Carlon box. It voids the warranty but gives you a nice little cheap unit for those remote sites. I just looked at the runtime on this unit and it says 53 minutes. It is drawing 40 watts of consumption. One thing we did have to do is write firewall rules to only allow access from our office IP range. It seems as though the http security is lax and is prone to hack attempts. The other fault of this unit is that you cannot assign it an IP address statically. It will pick up a DHCP address only, then you need to reserve that IP. It has it's drawbacks but for the money, it is a nice little tool. I took this up with APC support and they told me they had no intentions of rewriting the software to make it more manageable. I have included pictures of our final product. I'm not sure if this addresses your need but it is an option. Rick Harnish President Supernova Technologies, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 4:37 PM To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization Subject: [WISPA] Battery Backup I need help making a battery backup system. I attached pictures of what I have. It's a power inverter, auto transfer switch, Air Conditioner type disconnect, and a deep cycle marine battery. I want to do something like this at some remote sites. What can I do better, more efficient, maybe cheaper, or just different. I want to know all the options. Brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Battery Backup
I use an APC SU700NET with an AP9617 SNMP card. In the firmware version that I have (SNMP card, that is), there are 151 'events' for which you can specify actions. You can set severity (Severe, Warning, Informational) on each event. Each severity can be configured to trigger alarms (Syslog, SNMP traps, e-mail notifications). So when there is a temporary power sag it notifies a 9-5 e-mail list that may just go to our e-mail accounts. When there is a power outage we send it to an e-mail list that has our pagers/cell phones on it. It notifies us when the battery will soon be exhausted, and when the power comes back on. With the stock batteries we get anywyere from 2-3 hours to respond. If it takes us 30 minutes to get to the AP site then if the power hasn't come back on in about 45 minutes we gear up to go with a generator. I asked on this list, and someone had connected external batteries to this UPS to give it a longer run-time. You can get the refurbished UPS usually for about $80-$90 on e-bay, then the SNMP card will cost you about $125-$150 on e-bay. The UPS is about 5 wide and we put them sideways inside outdoor boxes. Their specs say that they need 1 clearance for ventilation but I've never had a problem with them inside 6 deep boxes. The smallest box it will fit in is 18Hx18Wx6D. With external batteries, you would have to figure out your needs for storage. This is not an expensive solution at all if all you need is a couple hours runtime. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 1:37 PM Subject: [WISPA] Battery Backup I need help making a battery backup system. I attached pictures of what I have. It's a power inverter, auto transfer switch, Air Conditioner type disconnect, and a deep cycle marine battery. I want to do something like this at some remote sites. What can I do better, more efficient, maybe cheaper, or just different. I want to know all the options. Brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup
That's the BH500NET UPS board. It has an Ethernet port along with surge protected phone line ports etc. Here is one of many URLs I found with a quick search. http://www.apcguard.com/PC_Workstation_BH500NET.asp Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 11:52 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup Those are some great pics Rick, Thanks! What is that other board you have in there? POE switch? Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 10:14 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup Brian, We made an inexpensive Rebootable UPS out of an APC BH500NET. It has a web interface to reboot the system and Ethernet ports to connect to. It was designed as a cheap office/residential device. Lowest price I can find today is $95. We gutted the components from the original case and put in a weatherproof Carlon box. It voids the warranty but gives you a nice little cheap unit for those remote sites. I just looked at the runtime on this unit and it says 53 minutes. It is drawing 40 watts of consumption. One thing we did have to do is write firewall rules to only allow access from our office IP range. It seems as though the http security is lax and is prone to hack attempts. The other fault of this unit is that you cannot assign it an IP address statically. It will pick up a DHCP address only, then you need to reserve that IP. It has it's drawbacks but for the money, it is a nice little tool. I took this up with APC support and they told me they had no intentions of rewriting the software to make it more manageable. I have included pictures of our final product. I'm not sure if this addresses your need but it is an option. Rick Harnish President Supernova Technologies, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 4:37 PM To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization Subject: [WISPA] Battery Backup I need help making a battery backup system. I attached pictures of what I have. It's a power inverter, auto transfer switch, Air Conditioner type disconnect, and a deep cycle marine battery. I want to do something like this at some remote sites. What can I do better, more efficient, maybe cheaper, or just different. I want to know all the options. Brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup
Ah, we are running a newer Web Firmware.. Don't suppose you have the old firmware? Model: APC Back-UPS HS 500 Firmware revision: l1 Web firmware revision: l4 -Russ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 12:50 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup Hello Russ, I believe the same as Rick...APC BH500NET. Nice little units, but I wish they had an Ethernet switch built-in rather than just a port. In all honesty I don't think I'd want production traffic passing through a UPS anyway, so the single port is fine. Technical Parameters Model: APC Back-UPS HS 500 Serial number: AB0** Firmware revision: l1 Web firmware revision: l2 UPS date of manufacture (mm-dd-): 06-18-2004 Battery replacement date (mm-dd-): 11-15-2004 Current Status Battery status: Charged Last transfer to battery was caused by: Blackout Result of last self-test is: None Load on Battery Backup Your battery backup is currently providing: 140 Watts Power Source: On-Line Battery Capacity: 100% Available Runtime: 12min Guess I've had this one for a bit longer than I remember...looks like we installed it 11-15-2004. It's running a P4 MikroTik multi-interface router along with several Trango radios at a remote HUB. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Russ Kreigh Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 11:41 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup Brad - What model hardware do you have, and what software version? Thanks, -Russ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 12:30 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup Great information Rick! I like you idea of gutting the unit. Our units are set with static IP addresses. They are at least a year old now...maybe they changed that to only allow DHCP in later revisions? Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 10:14 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup Brian, We made an inexpensive Rebootable UPS out of an APC BH500NET. It has a web interface to reboot the system and Ethernet ports to connect to. It was designed as a cheap office/residential device. Lowest price I can find today is $95. We gutted the components from the original case and put in a weatherproof Carlon box. It voids the warranty but gives you a nice little cheap unit for those remote sites. I just looked at the runtime on this unit and it says 53 minutes. It is drawing 40 watts of consumption. One thing we did have to do is write firewall rules to only allow access from our office IP range. It seems as though the http security is lax and is prone to hack attempts. The other fault of this unit is that you cannot assign it an IP address statically. It will pick up a DHCP address only, then you need to reserve that IP. It has it's drawbacks but for the money, it is a nice little tool. I took this up with APC support and they told me they had no intentions of rewriting the software to make it more manageable. I have included pictures of our final product. I'm not sure if this addresses your need but it is an option. Rick Harnish President Supernova Technologies, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 4:37 PM To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization Subject: [WISPA] Battery Backup I need help making a battery backup system. I attached pictures of what I have. It's a power inverter, auto transfer switch, Air Conditioner type disconnect, and a deep cycle marine battery. I want to do something like this at some remote sites. What can I do better, more efficient, maybe cheaper, or just different. I want to know all the options. Brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Battery Backup
I like the smurf tube. Very cool. George Brian Rohrbacher wrote: I need help making a battery backup system. I attached pictures of what I have. It's a power inverter, auto transfer switch, Air Conditioner type disconnect, and a deep cycle marine battery. I want to do something like this at some remote sites. What can I do better, more efficient, maybe cheaper, or just different. I want to know all the options. Brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Battery Backup
Are you able to enter a full IP address set into the unit with the old firmware? The new firmware allows you to specify the IP address, but not the subnet or default gateway... This is what is keeping me from using them as I'd wish Russ Kreigh wrote: Ah, we are running a newer Web Firmware.. Don't suppose you have the old firmware? Model: APC Back-UPS HS 500 Firmware revision: l1 Web firmware revision: l4 -Russ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 12:50 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup Hello Russ, I believe the same as Rick...APC BH500NET. Nice little units, but I wish they had an Ethernet switch built-in rather than just a port. In all honesty I don't think I'd want production traffic passing through a UPS anyway, so the single port is fine. Technical Parameters Model: APC Back-UPS HS 500 Serial number: AB0** Firmware revision: l1 Web firmware revision: l2 UPS date of manufacture (mm-dd-): 06-18-2004 Battery replacement date (mm-dd-): 11-15-2004 Current Status Battery status: Charged Last transfer to battery was caused by: Blackout Result of last self-test is: None Load on Battery Backup Your battery backup is currently providing: 140 Watts Power Source: On-Line Battery Capacity: 100% Available Runtime: 12min Guess I've had this one for a bit longer than I remember...looks like we installed it 11-15-2004. It's running a P4 MikroTik multi-interface router along with several Trango radios at a remote HUB. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Russ Kreigh Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 11:41 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup Brad - What model hardware do you have, and what software version? Thanks, -Russ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 12:30 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup Great information Rick! I like you idea of gutting the unit. Our units are set with static IP addresses. They are at least a year old now...maybe they changed that to only allow DHCP in later revisions? Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 10:14 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup Brian, We made an inexpensive Rebootable UPS out of an APC BH500NET. It has a web interface to reboot the system and Ethernet ports to connect to. It was designed as a cheap office/residential device. Lowest price I can find today is $95. We gutted the components from the original case and put in a weatherproof Carlon box. It voids the warranty but gives you a nice little cheap unit for those remote sites. I just looked at the runtime on this unit and it says 53 minutes. It is drawing 40 watts of consumption. One thing we did have to do is write firewall rules to only allow access from our office IP range. It seems as though the http security is lax and is prone to hack attempts. The other fault of this unit is that you cannot assign it an IP address statically. It will pick up a DHCP address only, then you need to reserve that IP. It has it's drawbacks but for the money, it is a nice little tool. I took this up with APC support and they told me they had no intentions of rewriting the software to make it more manageable. I have included pictures of our final product. I'm not sure if this addresses your need but it is an option. Rick Harnish President Supernova Technologies, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 4:37 PM To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization Subject: [WISPA] Battery Backup I need help making a battery backup system. I attached pictures of what I have. It's a power inverter, auto transfer switch, Air Conditioner type disconnect, and a deep cycle marine battery. I want to do something like this at some remote sites. What can I do better, more efficient, maybe cheaper, or just different. I want to know all the options. Brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Blair Davis AOL IM Screen Name
RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup
Hello Russ, Couldn't find any software/firmware on APCs site, but the manual still shows static IP assignment instructions. http://sturgeon.apcc.com/techref.nsf/partnum/990-9234/$FILE/990-9234_EN.pdf Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Russ Kreigh Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 12:28 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup Ah, we are running a newer Web Firmware.. Don't suppose you have the old firmware? Model: APC Back-UPS HS 500 Firmware revision: l1 Web firmware revision: l4 -Russ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 12:50 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup Hello Russ, I believe the same as Rick...APC BH500NET. Nice little units, but I wish they had an Ethernet switch built-in rather than just a port. In all honesty I don't think I'd want production traffic passing through a UPS anyway, so the single port is fine. Technical Parameters Model: APC Back-UPS HS 500 Serial number: AB0** Firmware revision: l1 Web firmware revision: l2 UPS date of manufacture (mm-dd-): 06-18-2004 Battery replacement date (mm-dd-): 11-15-2004 Current Status Battery status: Charged Last transfer to battery was caused by: Blackout Result of last self-test is: None Load on Battery Backup Your battery backup is currently providing: 140 Watts Power Source: On-Line Battery Capacity: 100% Available Runtime: 12min Guess I've had this one for a bit longer than I remember...looks like we installed it 11-15-2004. It's running a P4 MikroTik multi-interface router along with several Trango radios at a remote HUB. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Russ Kreigh Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 11:41 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup Brad - What model hardware do you have, and what software version? Thanks, -Russ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 12:30 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup Great information Rick! I like you idea of gutting the unit. Our units are set with static IP addresses. They are at least a year old now...maybe they changed that to only allow DHCP in later revisions? Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 10:14 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup Brian, We made an inexpensive Rebootable UPS out of an APC BH500NET. It has a web interface to reboot the system and Ethernet ports to connect to. It was designed as a cheap office/residential device. Lowest price I can find today is $95. We gutted the components from the original case and put in a weatherproof Carlon box. It voids the warranty but gives you a nice little cheap unit for those remote sites. I just looked at the runtime on this unit and it says 53 minutes. It is drawing 40 watts of consumption. One thing we did have to do is write firewall rules to only allow access from our office IP range. It seems as though the http security is lax and is prone to hack attempts. The other fault of this unit is that you cannot assign it an IP address statically. It will pick up a DHCP address only, then you need to reserve that IP. It has it's drawbacks but for the money, it is a nice little tool. I took this up with APC support and they told me they had no intentions of rewriting the software to make it more manageable. I have included pictures of our final product. I'm not sure if this addresses your need but it is an option. Rick Harnish President Supernova Technologies, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 4:37 PM To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization Subject: [WISPA] Battery Backup I need help making a battery backup system. I attached pictures of what I have. It's a power inverter, auto transfer switch, Air Conditioner type disconnect, and a deep cycle marine battery. I want to do something like this at some remote sites. What can I do better, more efficient, maybe cheaper, or just different. I want to know all the options. Brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup
Well...after looking and looking I don't see anywhere to set the IP configuration via my web interface. If memory serves me correctly I had to use an APC software configuration tool in order to set the IP address. Similar to what the cheapo DLink cameras require. I'll have to hunt for that tool once I'm back at the office. Right now I'm in the field (literally) watching a crew. Ah, I see the APC program to configure IP address information for the BH500NET is still loaded on my desktop PC, but I don't see the installation application. I bet I filed the CD. I'll get back with you on this later today. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 12:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Battery Backup Are you able to enter a full IP address set into the unit with the old firmware? The new firmware allows you to specify the IP address, but not the subnet or default gateway... This is what is keeping me from using them as I'd wish Russ Kreigh wrote: Ah, we are running a newer Web Firmware.. Don't suppose you have the old firmware? Model: APC Back-UPS HS 500 Firmware revision: l1 Web firmware revision: l4 -Russ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 12:50 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup Hello Russ, I believe the same as Rick...APC BH500NET. Nice little units, but I wish they had an Ethernet switch built-in rather than just a port. In all honesty I don't think I'd want production traffic passing through a UPS anyway, so the single port is fine. Technical Parameters Model: APC Back-UPS HS 500 Serial number: AB0** Firmware revision: l1 Web firmware revision: l2 UPS date of manufacture (mm-dd-): 06-18-2004 Battery replacement date (mm-dd-): 11-15-2004 Current Status Battery status: Charged Last transfer to battery was caused by: Blackout Result of last self-test is: None Load on Battery Backup Your battery backup is currently providing: 140 Watts Power Source: On-Line Battery Capacity: 100% Available Runtime: 12min Guess I've had this one for a bit longer than I remember...looks like we installed it 11-15-2004. It's running a P4 MikroTik multi-interface router along with several Trango radios at a remote HUB. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Russ Kreigh Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 11:41 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup Brad - What model hardware do you have, and what software version? Thanks, -Russ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 12:30 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup Great information Rick! I like you idea of gutting the unit. Our units are set with static IP addresses. They are at least a year old now...maybe they changed that to only allow DHCP in later revisions? Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 10:14 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Battery Backup Brian, We made an inexpensive Rebootable UPS out of an APC BH500NET. It has a web interface to reboot the system and Ethernet ports to connect to. It was designed as a cheap office/residential device. Lowest price I can find today is $95. We gutted the components from the original case and put in a weatherproof Carlon box. It voids the warranty but gives you a nice little cheap unit for those remote sites. I just looked at the runtime on this unit and it says 53 minutes. It is drawing 40 watts of consumption. One thing we did have to do is write firewall rules to only allow access from our office IP range. It seems as though the http security is lax and is prone to hack attempts. The other fault of this unit is that you cannot assign it an IP address statically. It will pick up a DHCP address only, then you need to reserve that IP. It has it's drawbacks but for the money, it is a nice little tool. I took this up with APC support and they told me they had no intentions of rewriting the software to make it more manageable. I have included pictures of our final product. I'm not sure if this addresses your need but it is an option. Rick Harnish President Supernova Technologies, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 4:37 PM To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization Subject: [WISPA] Battery Backup I need help making a battery backup system. I attached pictures of what I have
