Re: [WISPA] P2P Traffic
Hello everyone. This is my first post to the list. I have a week I signed up and there has been very interesting posts. To block p2p I have an iptables script that blocks everything by default and opens up ports as needed. This has worked well for me since this is default for new customers and just open everything late at night. Also, since I control the user bandwidth I open up all the ports at the user's request. On Oct 21, 2010, at 12:40 PM, Carl Shivers cshiv...@aristotle.net wrote: We are using NetEnforcer. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bill Price Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:15 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] P2P Traffic I sure this has been asked before. How are you guys handling P2P traffic? We are using microtik on one of our networks. Thanks Bill --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] P2P/copyright notifications for RLC students
I just received three notices of claimed copyright infringement for students at RLC. I've attached them (and named the files after the account IDs responsible). I've reduced these students' accounts to 128kbps for now. Please contact these students and discipline them according to your TOS. The student IDs in question are downingel (yes, I got two emails about him) and gordonta. David Smith MVN.net -- David Smith MVN.net Delivered-To: mvnd...@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.84.102 with SMTP id i38cs1808bkl; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 21:31:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.168.21 with SMTP id s21mr1923836iby.123.1287721886523; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 21:31:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: specopyri...@mc.mediasentry.com Received: from outboundmail.mvn.net (outboundmail.mvn.net [66.232.160.104]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 37si6115488ibi.11.2010.10.21.21.31.26; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 21:31:26 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: softfail (google.com: domain of transitioning specopyri...@mc.mediasentry.com does not designate 66.232.160.104 as permitted sender) client-ip=66.232.160.104; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=softfail (google.com: domain of transitioning specopyri...@mc.mediasentry.com does not designate 66.232.160.104 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=specopyri...@mc.mediasentry.com Received: from mvn.net (mail.mvn.net [66.232.160.10]) by outboundmail.mvn.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8717C8345 for mvnd...@gmail.com; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 23:31:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from SMTP32-FWD by mvn.net (SMTP32) id A139C2760DBE6; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 23:31:25 -0500 Received: from SMTP32-FWD by mvn.net (SMTP32) id A139B01C6367E; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 23:31:25 -0500 Received: from junkmail.mvn.net [66.232.160.15] by mvn.net with ESMTP (SMTPD-10.02) id A39B1604; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 23:31:23 -0500 X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1287721877-0cab8bf10001-tXBckS Received: from relay01.mediasentry.com (relay01.mediasentry.com [66.192.117.41]) by junkmail.mvn.net with ESMTP id M4VtpdpXkkADKn23 for ab...@mvn.net; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 23:31:17 -0500 (CDT) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: specopyri...@mc.mediasentry.com X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 66.192.117.41 Received-SPF: pass (junkmail.mvn.net: domain of mc.mediasentry.com designates 66.192.117.41 as permitted sender) client-ip=66.192.117.41; envelope-from=specopyri...@mc.mediasentry.com; Received: from KET127 (CASEAGENT [74.203.235.67]) by relay01.mediasentry.com (Mailer) with ESMTP id AF6C93D1947 for ab...@mvn.net; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 00:31:16 -0400 (EDT) To: Abuse Department ab...@mvn.net From: SonyPicturesEntertainment specopyri...@mc.mediasentry.com Subject: Case ID 1249275253 - Notice of Claimed Infringement MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Case ID 1249275253 - Notice of Claimed Infringement Content-Type: multipart/mixed; Boundary=--PTCP_0319333805997c07da Message-ID: 0319333905997d0...@[74.203.235.67] Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 01:21:51 -0400 X-Barracuda-Connect: relay01.mediasentry.com[66.192.117.41] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1287721877 X-Barracuda-URL: http://junkmail.mvn.net:80/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at mvn.net X-Barracuda-Bayes: INNOCENT GLOBAL 0.0487 1. -1.7079 X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.39 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.39 using global scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=3.5 KILL_LEVEL=9.9 tests=URIBL_WS_SURBL X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.2.44378 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description -- -- 2.10 URIBL_WS_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the WS SURBL blocklist [URIs: respectcopyrights.org] PTCP_0319333805997c07da Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Friday, October 22, 2010 Mount Vernon Net Inc. P.O. Box 1582, 1010 1/2 Salem Road Mt. Vernon, IL 62864 US RE: Unauthorized Distribution of the Copyrighted Motion Picture Entitled The Karate Kid Dear Abuse Department: We are writing this letter on behalf of Columbia Pictures Industries Inc., (Columbia Pictures) who owns certain rights under copyright law in the title The Karate Kid. You are receiving this notice because your Internet account was identified as having been used recently to copy and/or distribute illegally the copyrighted motion pictures and/or television shows listed at the bottom of this notice. This notice provides you with the information you need in order to take immediate action that can prevent serious legal and other consequences. These actions include: 1. Stop downloading or uploading without authorization any
Re: [WISPA] P2P/copyright notifications for RLC students
Did you bill PeerMedia Technologies for your time to deliver this to the end user?ryan On Friday, October 22, 2010 at 7:21 AM, David E. Smith wrote: I just received three notices of claimed copyright infringement for students at RLC. I've attached them (and named the files after the account IDs responsible). I've reduced these students' accounts to 128kbps for now. Please contact these students and discipline them according to your TOS. The student IDs in question are downingel (yes, I got two emails about him) and gordonta.David SmithMVN.net-- David SmithMVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wirel...@wispa.orgsubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Attachments: - downingel.txt - gordonta.txt - downingel2.txt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] P2P/copyright notifications for RLC students
Did you mean to send this to a public list? I would not imagine so... oops Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: David E. Smith d...@mvn.net Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 10:20 AM To: Terry Roedl roe...@rlc.edu, mcko...@rlc.edu Subject: [WISPA] P2P/copyright notifications for RLC students I just received three notices of claimed copyright infringement for students at RLC. I've attached them (and named the files after the account IDs responsible). I've reduced these students' accounts to 128kbps for now. Please contact these students and discipline them according to your TOS. The student IDs in question are downingel (yes, I got two emails about him) and gordonta. David Smith MVN.net -- David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] P2P/copyright notifications for RLC students
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 09:28, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.comwrote: Did you mean to send this to a public list? I would not imagine so... oops Darned auto-complete. Yeah, please ignore that. :) David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Devmon Templates
For those of you running Xymon with Devmon, do you have templates you'd be willing with share for Canopy, Alvarion, UBNT or Tranzeo radios? Thanks, -- Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P. http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE
Part of the think working for WISPs is the mindset. Cell companies, and people view service from a ³Cell Company² as being mobile. They don¹t market to a customer who is at home with a router and an xbox. Who cares if it is fast if you can¹t share it or aren¹t told how to share it? This will change over time, but for now it is a selling point for the WISP. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 08:54:27 -0400 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE The concern I have is in my coverage area Verizon already has 6 towers. I doubt they would be to worried about working with me. What I see is that I have 2 years to upgrade my equipment to be able to beat Verizon at all levels. TVWS could be a real game changer to us being so wooded. 700 Mhz LTE will already have the advantage. Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN http://www.pcswin.com/ RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service http://www.rcwifi.com/ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:23 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Verizon LTE Just got this from Verizon as a link on a advertisement: Verizon's 4G network will be available in 38 markets and major airports, covering approximately 100+ million people by the end of the year. We plan to double that in 2012 and cover our entire existing 3G footprint with 4G LTE by the end of 2013. Verizon Wireless is aggressively building the nation¹s first 4G LTE network across the same footprint that is currently covered by its nationwide 3G network, which covers more than 90% of the U.S. population. In order to provide access to this 4G LTE network to more of the U.S. population living in rural areas, Verizon Wireless plans to work with rural companies to collaboratively build and operate a 4G network in those areas using the tower and backhaul assets of the rural company and Verizon Wireless¹ core LTE equipment and 700MHz spectrum. Verizon Wireless provides a unique opportunity for selected participants to leverage the company¹s technical and spectrum resources. We are seeking companies that can assist in bringing the benefits of 4G LTE service to rural areas that currently lack Verizon Wireless coverage. Verizon Wireless may work with rural companies that have towers and backhaul capabilities, even if those companies are not currently wireless operators. Together, we will plan and coordinate a local LTE deployment schedule that makes sense for both Verizon Wireless and the rural company that we are collaborating with. http://aboutus.vzw.com/rural/Overview.html Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Certainly no idle hands over at the FCC
http://www.wirelessweek.com/News/2010/10/Policy-and-Industry-FCC-Propose-Incentive-Auctions-Legal/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Every email and website to be stored
That is an insane amount of storage. E-mail all your customers what their policy is going to do to the cost of their service. Marco On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:44 AM, Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.com wrote: URL is broken the irony is thick. Lol. Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: Every email, phone call and website visit is to be recorded and stored after the Coalition Government revived controversial Big Brother snooping plans. It will allow security services and the police to spy on the activities of every Briton who uses a phone or the internet. Moves to make every communications provider store details for at least a year will be unveiled later this year sparking fresh fears over a return of the surveillance state,,, http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/8075563/Every-email-and-website-to-be-stored.html -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author - Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks Serving the Broadband Wireless, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE
Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTEWell, I disagree. Cell company network are engineered for mobile and high volume over subscribed networks. But Cell Companies ARE Marketing their services to customers with routers and Xboxes. And Consumers ARE being fooled to perceive mobile technology as being a replacement for their Land Line or Fixed Wireless Service. Its the customers that are telling me, why should I pay you $1000/mon for 10mb, when Clear is selling 20mbps for $70/mon. And it is the computer support tech geeks that are telling their customers, hey why not use this AirCard Router, and solve all your broadband problems at home and small business. There is a whole network out there of not experts, who think they are experts showing consumers how to do it. There is no pre-existing Customer Mindset that understands Fixed Wireless. That is the challenge for WISP marketers. We have to change the public perception and mindset. That is not easy, but whether we succeed at that, determines if we make the sale or not. So... Why are Cell Carriers marketing to home router users? They are doing it for the same two reason that we are. 1) They dont want to get bundled in with last generation, such as Low grade WIFI or 3G. They now use buzzwords like WiMax or LTE or 4G, and are supposed to be offering something more grand than the old stuff. 2) Cable Companies and FTTH providers are brainwashing the world that they should have 20-50mbps, even if its peak. And consumers think that is what they are supposed to have and buy. End users dont understand what Wireless is capable versus what wires are capable of. Satelite advertises it, why cant cellular? The consumers say... If its the same speed, why cant I use my cellular service at home like my land line? It worked for my phone service! 50 kbps versus 50mbps, whats the difference? They both deliver 50 :-) The facts are... WISPs are screwed. Consumers will forever be misled. And Competitors will always bend the truth and exploit it to their marketing advantage with consumers. Our only choice, is to educate educate educate. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Justin Wilson To: WISPA General List Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE Part of the think working for WISPs is the mindset. Cell companies, and people view service from a Cell Company as being mobile. They don't market to a customer who is at home with a router and an xbox. Who cares if it is fast if you can't share it or aren't told how to share it? This will change over time, but for now it is a selling point for the WISP. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog - xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw - Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting - Tower Climbing - Network Support -- From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 08:54:27 -0400 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE The concern I have is in my coverage area Verizon already has 6 towers. I doubt they would be to worried about working with me. What I see is that I have 2 years to upgrade my equipment to be able to beat Verizon at all levels. TVWS could be a real game changer to us being so wooded. 700 Mhz LTE will already have the advantage. Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN http://www.pcswin.com/ RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service http://www.rcwifi.com/ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:23 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Verizon LTE Just got this from Verizon as a link on a advertisement: Verizon's 4G network will be available in 38 markets and major airports, covering approximately 100+ million people by the end of the year. We plan to double that in 2012 and cover our entire existing 3G footprint with 4G LTE by the end of 2013. Verizon Wireless is aggressively building the nation's first 4G LTE network across the same footprint that is currently covered by its nationwide 3G network, which covers more than 90% of the U.S. population. In order to provide access to this 4G LTE network to more of the U.S. population living in rural areas, Verizon Wireless plans to work with rural companies to collaboratively build and operate a 4G network in those areas using the tower and backhaul assets of the rural company and Verizon Wireless' core LTE equipment and 700MHz spectrum. Verizon Wireless provides a unique opportunity for selected participants to leverage the company's technical and spectrum resources. We are seeking companies that can assist in bringing the benefits of 4G LTE service to rural areas that
[WISPA] mail server data
I thought I'd share some mail server graphs Notice the big drop in Dec of last year... Some spammer must have been hit by a bus (good). Day Graphs [image: mailgraph] [image: mailgraph] Month Graphs [image: mailgraph] [image: mailgraph] Year Graphs [image: mailgraph] [image: mailgraph] -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] mail server data
No graphics L --- Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training http://www.onlinemikrotiktraining.com/ - Author of Learn RouterOS http://routerosbook.com/ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marco Coelho Sent: October 22, 2010 1:54 PM To: motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] mail server data I thought I'd share some mail server graphs Notice the big drop in Dec of last year... Some spammer must have been hit by a bus (good). Day Graphs mailgraphhttps://ns1.argontech.net/mailgraph/mailgraph.cgi?0-n mailgraphhttps://ns1.argontech.net/mailgraph/mailgraph.cgi?0-e Month Graphs mailgraphhttps://ns1.argontech.net/mailgraph/mailgraph.cgi?2-n mailgraphhttps://ns1.argontech.net/mailgraph/mailgraph.cgi?2-e Year Graphs mailgraphhttps://ns1.argontech.net/mailgraph/mailgraph.cgi?3-n mailgraphhttps://ns1.argontech.net/mailgraph/mailgraph.cgi?3-e -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] mail server data
Image references are behind an HTTP login. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.netwrote: No graphics L *--- **Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer** **Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net *LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training http://www.onlinemikrotiktraining.com/ - Author of Learn RouterOS http://routerosbook.com/* *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Marco Coelho *Sent:* October 22, 2010 1:54 PM *To:* motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General List *Subject:* [WISPA] mail server data I thought I'd share some mail server graphs Notice the big drop in Dec of last year... Some spammer must have been hit by a bus (good). Day Graphs [image: mailgraph] [image: mailgraph] Month Graphs [image: mailgraph] [image: mailgraph] Year Graphs [image: mailgraph] [image: mailgraph] -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Every email and website to be stored
Interesting how hard disk drives just seem to fail so often now... On 10/22/2010 2:46 PM, Marco Coelho wrote: That is an insane amount of storage. E-mail all your customers what their policy is going to do to the cost of their service. Marco On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:44 AM, Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.com wrote: URL is broken the irony is thick. Lol. "Jack Unger" jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: Every email, phone call and website visit is to be recorded and stored after the Coalition Government revived controversial Big Brother snooping plans. It will allow security services and the police to spy on the activities of every Briton who uses a phone or the internet. Moves to make every communications provider store details for at least a year will be unveiled later this year sparking fresh fears over a return of the surveillance state,,, http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/8075563/Every-email-and-website-to-be-stored.html -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author - "Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks" Serving the Broadband Wireless, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Got a Dallas room reservation you don't need?
Has anybody reserved a room at the Broadband Expo hotel (Gaylord Texan) for November 2 that they don't need? When I reserved a few weeks ago, they had no rooms available for that night and they wait-listed me. They say there still are no rooms available for the 2nd. If you have a room reservation for that night that you aren't going to need, maybe we could get them to change it over to my name. Just asking jack -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author - Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks Serving the Broadband Wireless, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Every email and website to be stored
At 10/22/2010 02:46 PM, you wrote: That is an insane amount of storage. E-mail all your customers what their policy is going to do to the cost of their service. Bear in mind that the proposal in question applies to the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, not the United States of America, so unless you're British, you and your customers aren't impacted (except for their correspondence via British ISPs). That country also has an insane number of surveillance cameras. Marco On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:44 AM, Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.com wrote: URL is broken the irony is thick. Lol. Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: Every email, phone call and website visit is to be recorded and stored after the Coalition Government revived controversial Big Brother snooping plans. It will allow security services and the police to spy on the activities of every Briton who uses a phone or the internet. Moves to make every communications provider store details for at least a year will be unveiled later this year sparking fresh fears over a return of the surveillance state,,, http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/8075563/Every-email-an d-website-to-be-stored.html -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE
Well said Tom DeReggi! Victoria Proffer - President/CEO www.ShowMeBroadband.com www.StLouisBroadband.com 314-974-5600 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 1:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE Well, I disagree. Cell company network are engineered for mobile and high volume over subscribed networks. But Cell Companies ARE Marketing their services to customers with routers and Xboxes. And Consumers ARE being fooled to perceive mobile technology as being a replacement for their Land Line or Fixed Wireless Service. Its the customers that are telling me, why should I pay you $1000/mon for 10mb, when Clear is selling 20mbps for $70/mon. And it is the computer support tech geeks that are telling their customers, hey why not use this AirCard Router, and solve all your broadband problems at home and small business. There is a whole network out there of not experts, who think they are experts showing consumers how to do it. There is no pre-existing Customer Mindset that understands Fixed Wireless. That is the challenge for WISP marketers. We have to change the public perception and mindset. That is not easy, but whether we succeed at that, determines if we make the sale or not. So... Why are Cell Carriers marketing to home router users? They are doing it for the same two reason that we are. 1) They dont want to get bundled in with last generation, such as Low grade WIFI or 3G. They now use buzzwords like WiMax or LTE or 4G, and are supposed to be offering something more grand than the old stuff. 2) Cable Companies and FTTH providers are brainwashing the world that they should have 20-50mbps, even if its peak. And consumers think that is what they are supposed to have and buy. End users dont understand what Wireless is capable versus what wires are capable of. Satelite advertises it, why cant cellular? The consumers say... If its the same speed, why cant I use my cellular service at home like my land line? It worked for my phone service! 50 kbps versus 50mbps, whats the difference? They both deliver 50 :-) The facts are... WISPs are screwed. Consumers will forever be misled. And Competitors will always bend the truth and exploit it to their marketing advantage with consumers. Our only choice, is to educate educate educate. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Justin Wilson mailto:li...@mtin.net To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE Part of the think working for WISPs is the mindset. Cell companies, and people view service from a Cell Company as being mobile. They don't market to a customer who is at home with a router and an xbox. Who cares if it is fast if you can't share it or aren't told how to share it? This will change over time, but for now it is a selling point for the WISP. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog - xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw - Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting - Tower Climbing - Network Support _ From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 08:54:27 -0400 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE The concern I have is in my coverage area Verizon already has 6 towers. I doubt they would be to worried about working with me. What I see is that I have 2 years to upgrade my equipment to be able to beat Verizon at all levels. TVWS could be a real game changer to us being so wooded. 700 Mhz LTE will already have the advantage. Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN http://www.pcswin.com/ RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service http://www.rcwifi.com/ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:23 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Verizon LTE Just got this from Verizon as a link on a advertisement: Verizon's 4G network will be available in 38 markets and major airports, covering approximately 100+ million people by the end of the year. We plan to double that in 2012 and cover our entire existing 3G footprint with 4G LTE by the end of 2013. Verizon Wireless is aggressively building the nation's first 4G LTE network across the same footprint that is currently covered by its nationwide 3G network, which covers more than 90% of the U.S. population. In order to provide access to this 4G LTE network to more of the U.S. population living in rural areas, Verizon Wireless plans to work with rural companies to collaboratively build and operate a 4G network in those areas using the tower and backhaul assets of the rural company and Verizon Wireless' core LTE equipment and 700MHz spectrum. Verizon Wireless
Re: [WISPA] Got a Dallas room reservation you don't need?
Same boat you're in. Forbes On 10/22/2010 1:33 PM, Jack Unger wrote: Has anybody reserved a room at the Broadband Expo hotel (Gaylord Texan) for November 2 that they don't need? When I reserved a few weeks ago, they had no rooms available for that night and they wait-listed me. They say there still are no rooms available for the 2nd. If you have a room reservation for that night that you aren't going to need, maybe we could get them to change it over to my name. Just asking jack WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Got a Dallas room reservation you don't need?
The springhill suites is offering free shuttle service every 30 mins to the conference center. Leroy -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 5:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Got a Dallas room reservation you don't need? Same boat you're in. Forbes On 10/22/2010 1:33 PM, Jack Unger wrote: Has anybody reserved a room at the Broadband Expo hotel (Gaylord Texan) for November 2 that they don't need? When I reserved a few weeks ago, they had no rooms available for that night and they wait-listed me. They say there still are no rooms available for the 2nd. If you have a room reservation for that night that you aren't going to need, maybe we could get them to change it over to my name. Just asking jack WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Got a Dallas room reservation you don't need?
That's handy. Do you know if they've got rooms and at what rate? On 10/22/2010 2:19 PM, Leroy wrote: The springhill suites is offering free shuttle service every 30 mins to the conference center. Leroy -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 5:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Got a Dallas room reservation you don't need? Same boat you're in. Forbes On 10/22/2010 1:33 PM, Jack Unger wrote: Has anybody reserved a room at the Broadband Expo hotel (Gaylord Texan) for November 2 that they don't need? When I reserved a few weeks ago, they had no rooms available for that night and they wait-listed me. They say there still are no rooms available for the 2nd. If you have a room reservation for that night that you aren't going to need, maybe we could get them to change it over to my name. Just asking jack WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author - Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks Serving the Broadband Wireless, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Got a Dallas room reservation you don't need?
Here ya go Jack, SpringHill Suites Dallas DFW Airport North/Grapevine- more info 2240 W. Grapevine Mills Circle, Grapevine, TX (972) 724-5500 () 1.1 mi NE $159 for the night. On 10/22/2010 2:36 PM, Jack Unger wrote: That's handy. Do you know if they've got rooms and at what rate? On 10/22/2010 2:19 PM, Leroy wrote: The springhill suites is offering free shuttle service every 30 mins to the conference center. Leroy -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 5:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Got a Dallas room reservation you don't need? Same boat you're in. Forbes On 10/22/2010 1:33 PM, Jack Unger wrote: Has anybody reserved a room at the Broadband Expo hotel (Gaylord Texan) for November 2 that they don't need? When I reserved a few weeks ago, they had no rooms available for that night and they "wait-listed" me. They say there still are no rooms available for the 2nd. If you have a room reservation for that night that you aren't going to need, maybe we could get them to change it over to my name. Just asking jack WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE
And these problems are true and exist for some. for us, it is the greatest thing! I am collecting att and verzion air card users left and right... Why? Because of the 2GByte or 5GByte limit. One of my new users got a $700 bill from verzion! another got $1100 from att. Our limit is 40GByte. Help them learn. Teach them how to get att or verzion to dump their contract. On 10/22/2010 5:14 PM, St. Louis Broadband wrote: Well said Tom DeReggi! *Victoria Proffer - President/CEO* www.ShowMeBroadband.com www.StLouisBroadband.com 314-974-5600 *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Tom DeReggi *Sent:* Friday, October 22, 2010 1:48 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE Well, I disagree. Cell company network are engineered for mobile and high volume over subscribed networks. But Cell Companies ARE Marketing their services to customers with routers and Xboxes. And Consumers ARE being fooled to perceive mobile technology as being a replacement for their Land Line or Fixed Wireless Service. Its the customers that are telling me, why should I pay you $1000/mon for 10mb, when Clear is selling 20mbps for $70/mon. And it is the computer support tech geeks that are telling their customers, hey why not use this AirCard Router, and solve all your broadband problems at home and small business. There is a whole network out there of not experts, who think they are experts showing consumers how to do it. There is no pre-existing Customer Mindset that understands Fixed Wireless. That is the challenge for WISP marketers. We have to change the public perception and mindset. That is not easy, but whether we succeed at that, determines if we make the sale or not. So... Why are Cell Carriers marketing to home router users? They are doing it for the same two reason that we are. 1) They dont want to get bundled in with last generation, such as Low grade WIFI or 3G. They now use buzzwords like WiMax or LTE or 4G, and are supposed to be offering something more grand than the old stuff. 2) Cable Companies and FTTH providers are brainwashing the world that they should have 20-50mbps, even if its peak. And consumers think that is what they are supposed to have and buy. End users dont understand what Wireless is capable versus what wires are capable of. Satelite advertises it, why cant cellular? The consumers say... If its the same speed, why cant I use my cellular service at home like my land line? It worked for my phone service! 50 kbps versus 50mbps, whats the difference? They both deliver 50 :-) The facts are... WISPs are screwed. Consumers will forever be misled. And Competitors will always bend the truth and exploit it to their marketing advantage with consumers. Our only choice, is to educate educate educate. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - *From:*Justin Wilson mailto:li...@mtin.net *To:*WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Sent:*Friday, October 22, 2010 1:39 PM *Subject:*Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE Part of the think working for WISPs is the mindset. Cell companies, and people view service from a Cell Company as being mobile. They don't market to a customer who is at home with a router and an xbox. Who cares if it is fast if you can't share it or aren't told how to share it? This will change over time, but for now it is a selling point for the WISP. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog -- xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw -- Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting -- Tower Climbing -- Network Support *From: *Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com *Reply-To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Date: *Thu, 21 Oct 2010 08:54:27 -0400 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE The concern I have is in my coverage area Verizon already has 6 towers. I doubt they would be to worried about working with me. What I see is that I have 2 years to upgrade my equipment to be able to beat Verizon at all levels. TVWS could be a real game changer to us being so wooded. 700 Mhz LTE will already have the advantage. *Steve Barnes *General Manager PCS-WINhttp://www.pcswin.com/ RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Servicehttp://www.rcwifi.com/ *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Steve Barnes *Sent:* Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:23 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* [WISPA] Verizon LTE Just got this from Verizon as a link on a advertisement: Verizon's 4G network will be available in 38 markets and major airports, covering approximately 100+ million people by the end of the year. We plan to
Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE
If a client gets a $700 bill one time - they generally do not think twice about paying the $300 etf On Oct 22, 2010, at 10:16 PM, Blair Davis wrote: Because of the 2GByte or 5GByte limit. One of my new users got a $700 bill from verzion! another got $1100 from att. Our limit is 40GByte. Help them learn. Teach them how to get att or verzion to dump their contract. _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
