Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti PicoStation M

2012-05-29 Thread Carl Shivers
I agree. Also the Wiki says that 20 MHz is default.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Greg Ihnen
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 12:17 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti PicoStation M

 

That and AirMax got me more than once. I think it would be more intuitive if
the AirMax selection box was on the Wireless tab.

 

Greg

On May 26, 2012, at 11:28 AM, Carl Shivers wrote:





Thanks. The 20 MHz change did the trick. Good thing to remember.

 

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Behalf Of Joey Craig
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 9:05 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti PicoStation M

 

By default, they come set at 40 MHz. You will need to set it to 20 MHz for
your laptop and other equipment to associate to it.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Carl Shivers
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 2:52 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti PicoStation M

 

On the advice of my vendor, I got a set of UBNT PicoStation Ms. For testing,
I turned off AirMax, put the radio in Access Point mode and bridge network.
When trying to connect various laptops to the radio, I get immediate
failures. It doesn't matter if I give myself an address on my Wireless
adapter or plug the radio into my network, which has a DHCP server,
connections still fail. I have no security set for the test.

 

Any suggestions?

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[WISPA] Airband

2012-05-29 Thread Rick Harnish
Does anyone know of have a management contact at Airband in Dallas, Texas?

 

 http://www.wispa.org/where-there-is-a-wisp-there-is-a-way Where there is
a Wisp, there is a way!

 

Respectfully,

 

Rick Harnish

Executive Director

WISPA

260-307-4000 cell

866-317-2851 Option 2 WISPA Office

Skype: rick.harnish.

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Re: [WISPA] Airband

2012-05-29 Thread timothy steele
here is a link to there LinkedIn page you might get the contact you need
that way.

http://www.linkedin.com/company/15499?goback=%2Efcs_GLHD_AirBand_false_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2trk=ncsrch_hits

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote:

 Does anyone know of have a management contact at Airband in Dallas, Texas?
 

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 *Where there is a Wisp, there is a 
 way!http://www.wispa.org/where-there-is-a-wisp-there-is-a-way
 *

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 Respectfully,**

 * *

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 Executive Director

 WISPA

 260-307-4000 cell

 866-317-2851 Option 2 WISPA Office

 Skype: rick.harnish.

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Re: [WISPA] Airband

2012-05-29 Thread Cameron Crum
If you are looking for commercial bandwidth in Dallas, you might also try
Belwave. They are a Wispa member.


Cameron

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:25 AM, timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.comwrote:

 here is a link to there LinkedIn page you might get the contact you need
 that way.


 http://www.linkedin.com/company/15499?goback=%2Efcs_GLHD_AirBand_false_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2trk=ncsrch_hits

 On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote:

 Does anyone know of have a management contact at Airband in Dallas, Texas?
 

 ** **

 *Where there is a Wisp, there is a 
 way!http://www.wispa.org/where-there-is-a-wisp-there-is-a-way
 *

 ** **

 Respectfully,**

 * *

 *Rick Harnish*

 Executive Director

 WISPA

 260-307-4000 cell

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 Skype: rick.harnish.

 rharn...@wispa.org

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Re: [WISPA] What you can do!

2012-05-29 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)
Yeah, that would be a good carrot to get people to submit.  How cool would 
it be to be able to let the consumer self qualify themselves (at least an 
educated guess) for your service?

That's a similar step that Wa. is working on now.  Sandborn is working with 
Radio Mobile to help figure out coverage zones.  I've had to give them a 
distance cutoff but it gets us pretty close to actual coverage's.  As 
accurate as I think we can realistically be anyhow.

Getting one's self onto the maps is really a no brainer these days.  If you 
do you might keep tax money out of your industry in your area.  If you 
don't get on the maps you will bring it in.

There's just no grey area here.  We're not making the rules of the game 
(well, we're trying but), so either play by the rules or get your tail 
whipped.

Can't show up for a football game with a basketball team and expect to do 
very well.

marlon

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From: Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] What you can do!


 Someone asked on the Members List what they could do to help the overall
 cause of trying to get/protect spectrum and to avoid CAF/USF pitfalls.
 Thought it would be appropriate here as well:

 One thing I always thought might be helpfull. Allow all WISPA members
 to submit all there tower coordinates, heights and frequencies to
 WISPA.  Run propagation studies on sites for them if they allow such
 data to be displayed on a Google Map on WISPA's site with the
 propagation patterns from all other members on it.  WISPA would have
 benefit of true map and users would have benefit of getting copy to
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Re: [WISPA] What you can do!

2012-05-29 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)
For the purposes of these maps it doesn't really have to be that exact.  Close, 
yes.  But exactness isn't needed.

marlon

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  Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 10:07 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] What you can do!


  Accurate propagation studies require a lot more than just submitting 
coordinates, heights and frequencies. You really can't just use some set of 
default numbers for all the parameters involved. You need antenna patterns, 
gains (on both ends), C/I values, noise figures, and a whole host of other 
info. This doesn't even include optimizing for clutter categories and 
elevations. If you don't have this, you might as well just draw circles as it 
would be about as useful. I spent a lot of years making good money doing just 
this for the cellular industry. They understood that designing a network 
incorrectly had dire financial consequences. We on the other hand seem to think 
of prop studies as an after thought. While I know that we have to go where the 
towers are and don't have the resources to build where we want to get an 
optimized network, we should still take it seriously and do it right when we 
decide to actually perform the study. 


  Cameron


  On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote:

 Someone asked on the Members List what they could do to help the overall
 cause of trying to get/protect spectrum and to avoid CAF/USF pitfalls.
 Thought it would be appropriate here as well:

One thing I always thought might be helpfull. Allow all WISPA members
to submit all there tower coordinates, heights and frequencies to
WISPA.  Run propagation studies on sites for them if they allow such
data to be displayed on a Google Map on WISPA's site with the
propagation patterns from all other members on it.  WISPA would have
benefit of true map and users would have benefit of getting copy to
use themselves.
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Re: [WISPA] USF/CAF

2012-05-29 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)
Right.

And that's why we still have to fight they current rules as proposed.

We've made the statement that if any company offers un subsidized service 
then no one should get a tax payer funded leg up in the market.

Under the current rules a SINGLE company has to provide both *facilities 
based *voice and broadband without subsidies before the faucet is shut off 
to the USF/CAF recipient.

We're in the bottom of the 9th inning and we're down by a couple of runs, 2 
out full count and Casey is at bat.

Are we going to swing at the ball or just stand there and watch it fly by?

marlon


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From: Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] USF/CAF


 At 5/25/2012 01:03 PM, Matt wrote:
Perhaps anyone accepting money from these funds should be required to
wholesale there services at a discount such as dry loop dsl?  They
should also not be allowed to price under cut wholesalers for that to
work?

 In fact, that *was* the rule.  Or at least they had to wholesale the
 DSL, even if it was bundled with cheap POTS.  When the FCC detariffed
 DSL in 2005, it was permissive, so the Bells could detariff while the
 subsidized rural ILECs stayed on tariff in order to maximize their USF.

 The new Connect America Fund rules make one major change -- they
 allow the ILEC to detariff DSL, offer it only as a retail information
 service, and still get subsidized.  That's how they want to improve
 broadband availability.  Gee, do you think any telco lobbyists were
 active in getting that passed? ;-)

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[WISPA] Power over Ethernet Ubiquiti Radios

2012-05-29 Thread Carl Shivers
Our vendor told us that if we purchase the higher watt power adapter that we
can use the same power adapter for both our Nanostation and our Pico. Is
there a setting in the Nano we need to turn on for the second POE for the
Pico?

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Re: [WISPA] USF/CAF

2012-05-29 Thread Randy Cosby
Facilities Based excludes all fixed wireless, is that correct?

Would VoIP - properly reported, taxed, etc. - qualify as voice?

Randy

On 5/29/2012 10:40 AM, Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181) wrote:
 Right.

 And that's why we still have to fight they current rules as proposed.

 We've made the statement that if any company offers un subsidized service
 then no one should get a tax payer funded leg up in the market.

 Under the current rules a SINGLE company has to provide both *facilities
 based *voice and broadband without subsidies before the faucet is shut off
 to the USF/CAF recipient.

 We're in the bottom of the 9th inning and we're down by a couple of runs, 2
 out full count and Casey is at bat.

 Are we going to swing at the ball or just stand there and watch it fly by?

 marlon


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 From: Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 11:16 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] USF/CAF


 At 5/25/2012 01:03 PM, Matt wrote:
 Perhaps anyone accepting money from these funds should be required to
 wholesale there services at a discount such as dry loop dsl?  They
 should also not be allowed to price under cut wholesalers for that to
 work?
 In fact, that *was* the rule.  Or at least they had to wholesale the
 DSL, even if it was bundled with cheap POTS.  When the FCC detariffed
 DSL in 2005, it was permissive, so the Bells could detariff while the
 subsidized rural ILECs stayed on tariff in order to maximize their USF.

 The new Connect America Fund rules make one major change -- they
 allow the ILEC to detariff DSL, offer it only as a retail information
 service, and still get subsidized.  That's how they want to improve
 broadband availability.  Gee, do you think any telco lobbyists were
 active in getting that passed? ;-)

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Re: [WISPA] USF/CAF

2012-05-29 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 5/29/2012 12:40 PM, MarlonS wrote:
Right.

And that's why we still have to fight they current rules as proposed.

Trouble is, that rule already passed.  CAF now will subsidize broadband.

We've made the statement that if any company offers un subsidized service
then no one should get a tax payer funded leg up in the market.

Under the current rules a SINGLE company has to provide both *facilities
based *voice and broadband without subsidies before the faucet is shut off
to the USF/CAF recipient.

Yes, and WISPA has petitioned to change that detail, though whether 
they accept it is anybody's guess.  Now is a good time to add voice 
to your product mix if you don't have it yet.

I did receive in the morning mail two Notices of Appeal.  They're 
from groups of rural ILECs who are unhappy with the other changes in 
the CAF order.  In particular, the FCC is limiting support to the 
highest-cost ILECs, and using TeleAtlas data to determine the size of 
their service areas.  Apparently the TeleAtlas maps omit some 
territory.  It's sort of hard to figure out where a wireline 
company's turf is when their density is less than one sub per square 
mile.  They do theoretically file maps with their tariffs, but 
they're hard to find, usually fuzzy from decades of copying, and not 
available in electronic form.  Hence very very costly GIS maps from 
TeleAtlas are assembled over time and may not be accurate.  It 
strikes me as rather strange that there is no official electronic map 
of ILEC or even USF-recipient turf, so they are still arguing over 
it.  And that's easier to map than wireless coverage.

The currently-open Further Notice of Proposed Rulemaking is over how 
to change the way USF taxes work.  They are looking at several 
options.  Among them,
- tax ISPs
- tax telephone numbers
- tax circuits based on size, not cost

The latter two are gimmicks.  The first one threatens WISPs.

We're in the bottom of the 9th inning and we're down by a couple of runs, 2
out full count and Casey is at bat.

Are we going to swing at the ball or just stand there and watch it fly by?

marlon


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From: Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] USF/CAF


  At 5/25/2012 01:03 PM, Matt wrote:
 Perhaps anyone accepting money from these funds should be required to
 wholesale there services at a discount such as dry loop dsl?  They
 should also not be allowed to price under cut wholesalers for that to
 work?
 
  In fact, that *was* the rule.  Or at least they had to wholesale the
  DSL, even if it was bundled with cheap POTS.  When the FCC detariffed
  DSL in 2005, it was permissive, so the Bells could detariff while the
  subsidized rural ILECs stayed on tariff in order to maximize their USF.
 
  The new Connect America Fund rules make one major change -- they
  allow the ILEC to detariff DSL, offer it only as a retail information
  service, and still get subsidized.  That's how they want to improve
  broadband availability.  Gee, do you think any telco lobbyists were
  active in getting that passed? ;-)
 
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Re: [WISPA] USF/CAF

2012-05-29 Thread Chris Fabien
As it was explained on the list a few days ago by Stephen Coran, the
CAF rules do not include a definition or Facilities Based. If you use
the definition as listed in the Form 477 instructions, most WISPs
would qualify as facilities based.


On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote:
 Facilities Based excludes all fixed wireless, is that correct?

 Would VoIP - properly reported, taxed, etc. - qualify as voice?

 Randy

 On 5/29/2012 10:40 AM, Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181) wrote:
 Right.

 And that's why we still have to fight they current rules as proposed.

 We've made the statement that if any company offers un subsidized service
 then no one should get a tax payer funded leg up in the market.

 Under the current rules a SINGLE company has to provide both *facilities
 based *voice and broadband without subsidies before the faucet is shut off
 to the USF/CAF recipient.

 We're in the bottom of the 9th inning and we're down by a couple of runs, 2
 out full count and Casey is at bat.

 Are we going to swing at the ball or just stand there and watch it fly by?

 marlon


 - Original Message -
 From: Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 11:16 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] USF/CAF


 At 5/25/2012 01:03 PM, Matt wrote:
 Perhaps anyone accepting money from these funds should be required to
 wholesale there services at a discount such as dry loop dsl?  They
 should also not be allowed to price under cut wholesalers for that to
 work?
 In fact, that *was* the rule.  Or at least they had to wholesale the
 DSL, even if it was bundled with cheap POTS.  When the FCC detariffed
 DSL in 2005, it was permissive, so the Bells could detariff while the
 subsidized rural ILECs stayed on tariff in order to maximize their USF.

 The new Connect America Fund rules make one major change -- they
 allow the ILEC to detariff DSL, offer it only as a retail information
 service, and still get subsidized.  That's how they want to improve
 broadband availability.  Gee, do you think any telco lobbyists were
 active in getting that passed? ;-)

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Re: [WISPA] USF/CAF

2012-05-29 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 5/29/2012 01:05 PM, Randy Cosby wrote:
Facilities Based excludes all fixed wireless, is that correct?

No.  The unsubsidized competitor rule includes fixed wireless.

Would VoIP - properly reported, taxed, etc. - qualify as voice?

Yes.  It has to meet reasonable quality standards, provide E911 
access, and have a local number, but the multiplexing header is not a 
disqualifier.  So if you can find a VoIP provider with local numbers 
in your area and can get say an MPLS pipe to them, it would do.  In 
some extreme cases you may need to fimd a CLEC willing to add service 
in your area, or create your own CLEC.

Randy

On 5/29/2012 10:40 AM, Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181) wrote:
  Right.
 
  And that's why we still have to fight they current rules as proposed.
 
  We've made the statement that if any company offers un subsidized service
  then no one should get a tax payer funded leg up in the market.
 
  Under the current rules a SINGLE company has to provide both *facilities
  based *voice and broadband without subsidies before the faucet is shut off
  to the USF/CAF recipient.
 
  We're in the bottom of the 9th inning and we're down by a couple of runs, 2
  out full count and Casey is at bat.
 
  Are we going to swing at the ball or just stand there and watch it fly by?
 
  marlon
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 11:16 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] USF/CAF
 
 
  At 5/25/2012 01:03 PM, Matt wrote:
  Perhaps anyone accepting money from these funds should be required to
  wholesale there services at a discount such as dry loop dsl?  They
  should also not be allowed to price under cut wholesalers for that to
  work?
  In fact, that *was* the rule.  Or at least they had to wholesale the
  DSL, even if it was bundled with cheap POTS.  When the FCC detariffed
  DSL in 2005, it was permissive, so the Bells could detariff while the
  subsidized rural ILECs stayed on tariff in order to maximize their USF.
 
  The new Connect America Fund rules make one major change -- they
  allow the ILEC to detariff DSL, offer it only as a retail information
  service, and still get subsidized.  That's how they want to improve
  broadband availability.  Gee, do you think any telco lobbyists were
  active in getting that passed? ;-)
 

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Re: [WISPA] USF/CAF

2012-05-29 Thread Jack Unger

  
  
In fact, WISPA has already gone
on record AGAINST the current rule that a single company has to
provide both voice and data. WISPA asked the FCC to change the
rule so that CAF subsidies would be denied in "an area subject
to unsubsidized competition". What this means is that if an area
is already served with both voice and broadband data, even if
these services are provided by two separate companies, then no
one else should be able to receive subsidies to serve that area.


(Crack! "Base hit!! It's a double to center field!!")

jack

  
On 5/29/2012 9:40 AM, Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181) wrote:

  Right.

And that's why we still have to fight they current rules as proposed.

We've made the statement that if any company offers un subsidized service 
then no one should get a tax payer funded leg up in the market.

Under the current rules a SINGLE company has to provide both *facilities 
based *voice and broadband without subsidies before the faucet is shut off 
to the USF/CAF recipient.

We're in the bottom of the 9th inning and we're down by a couple of runs, 2 
out full count and Casey is at bat.

Are we going to swing at the ball or just stand there and watch it fly by?

marlon


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From: "Fred Goldstein" fgoldst...@ionary.com
To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] USF/CAF



  
At 5/25/2012 01:03 PM, Matt wrote:


  Perhaps anyone accepting money from these funds should be required to
wholesale there services at a discount such as dry loop dsl?  They
should also not be allowed to price under cut wholesalers for that to
work?



In fact, that *was* the rule.  Or at least they had to wholesale the
DSL, even if it was bundled with cheap POTS.  When the FCC detariffed
DSL in 2005, it was permissive, so the Bells could detariff while the
subsidized rural ILECs stayed on tariff in order to maximize their USF.

The new Connect America Fund rules make one major change -- they
allow the ILEC to detariff DSL, offer it only as a retail information
service, and still get subsidized.  That's how they want to "improve"
broadband availability.  Gee, do you think any telco lobbyists were
active in getting that passed? ;-)

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Re: [WISPA] Power over Ethernet Ubiquiti Radios

2012-05-29 Thread timothy steele
you have to enable POE Pass through in the GUI of the NSM

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Carl Shivers cshiv...@aristotle.netwrote:

 Our vendor told us that if we purchase the higher watt power adapter that
 we can use the same power adapter for both our Nanostation and our Pico. Is
 there a setting in the Nano we need to turn on for the second POE for the
 Pico?

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Re: [WISPA] Power over Ethernet Ubiquiti Radios

2012-05-29 Thread Carl Shivers
Is this on the advanced tab? Also, I was reading where people enabled this
and then their radio was bricked??

 

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you have to enable POE Pass through in the GUI of the NSM

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Carl Shivers cshiv...@aristotle.net
wrote:

Our vendor told us that if we purchase the higher watt power adapter that we
can use the same power adapter for both our Nanostation and our Pico. Is
there a setting in the Nano we need to turn on for the second POE for the
Pico?


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Re: [WISPA] Power over Ethernet Ubiquiti Radios

2012-05-29 Thread Greg Ihnen
A good thing to know about the UBNT gear is if for some reason supplying PoE 
via the main port stops working, you can supply PoE via the secondary port 
whether or not the PoE passthrough option is enabled.

Greg

On May 29, 2012, at 5:09 PM, Carl Shivers wrote:

 Is this on the advanced tab? Also, I was reading where people enabled this 
 and then their radio was bricked??
  
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of timothy steele
 Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:14 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Power over Ethernet Ubiquiti Radios
  
 you have to enable POE Pass through in the GUI of the NSM
 
 On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Carl Shivers cshiv...@aristotle.net wrote:
 Our vendor told us that if we purchase the higher watt power adapter that we 
 can use the same power adapter for both our Nanostation and our Pico. Is 
 there a setting in the Nano we need to turn on for the second POE for the 
 Pico?
 
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Re: [WISPA] Power over Ethernet Ubiquiti Radios

2012-05-29 Thread Ben West
As a previous poster mentioned, this feature on Nanostation M5 and M2 is
called POE passthrough, and it has a checkbox to enable it on the AirOS web
UI.

This will let you power a 2nd 24V POE device from the Secondary port of
the Nanostation, using a single POE supply.  I use the POE-24-1 (aka 24V
1amp) supply from UBNT when powering 2 devices like this.  I've read other
folks on the UBNT customer forum try powering more than 2 units from a
single power supply, e.g. 2 Nanostations and then a 3rd device
daisy-chained together, tho I believe UBNT doesn't support this.

HOWEVER, do please note the POE passthrough feature on the Nanostation M's
has been consistently problematic.  When I first tried to have an NSM5
power a 2nd access point 18months ago, I found that my NSM5's would
commonly burn out a FET inside after ~1week operation, causing the POE
enable switch to henceforth become stuck on regardless of firmware setting.
 Sometimes this burn out event would put the NSM5 in a reboot loop until I
reflashed it.

More recently, it seems UBNT might have released a batch of NSM5 that
actually brick themselves when you enable the POE passthrough, requiring an
RMA.  I had just this happen to an NSM5 I bought in April.
https://forum.ubnt.com/showthread.php?p=270549

The suggested work-around, as mentioned above, is to swap the Main and
Secondary ports on the Nanostation if you want to power a 2nd device, and
not use firmware POE passthrough enable at all.

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:

 A good thing to know about the UBNT gear is if for some reason supplying
 PoE via the main port stops working, you can supply PoE via the
 secondary port whether or not the PoE passthrough option is enabled.

 Greg

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