Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Problems with new Apple Laptops

2013-09-30 Thread Julian Y Koh 
On Sep 26, 2013, at 15:52 , Travis Schick trsch...@ucdavis.edu wrote:
 
 Apple has confirmed that it is a cert validation delay...  and they do 
 respond... eventually - setting the dealy to 30 - at least allow the Macs to 
 eventually get online - vs getting stuck in the auth state and requiring user 
 intervention.

Does anyone have an actual BugID with Apple that we can reference?  Before we 
go down the route of telling people that they need to change this setting in 
Keychain Access, it would be good to get an idea of whether Apple even 
considers this to be an official bug and when they might be able to fix it.  


-- 
Julian Y. Koh
Acting Associate Director, Telecommunications and Network Services
Northwestern University Information Technology (NUIT)

2001 Sheridan Road #G-166
Evanston, IL 60208
847-467-5780
NUIT Web Site: http://www.it.northwestern.edu/
PGP Public Key:http://bt.ittns.northwestern.edu/julian/pgppubkey.html

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Problems with new Apple Laptops

2013-09-30 Thread Travis Schick 
Not sure why... but apple is unwilling to provide me any bug id specifics.
Our campus also doesn't have any support/engineering agreement with apple -
so that may  be part of it. they were kind enough to take in the info I
gave them... and they have reported back to me that the issues I see is
something imacting other big customers.

They believe its currently resolved in the latest beta of Mavericks
 (10.9) - but can't say if there will be a patch for earlier versions of
macosx.

Best option is to contact AppleCare - especially if your school has a
support contract - might be able to get more info than me.
If it helps my case # is 480081631.


On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Julian Y Koh kohs...@northwestern.eduwrote:

 On Sep 26, 2013, at 15:52 , Travis Schick trsch...@ucdavis.edu wrote:
 
  Apple has confirmed that it is a cert validation delay...  and they do
 respond... eventually - setting the dealy to 30 - at least allow the Macs
 to eventually get online - vs getting stuck in the auth state and requiring
 user intervention.

 Does anyone have an actual BugID with Apple that we can reference?  Before
 we go down the route of telling people that they need to change this
 setting in Keychain Access, it would be good to get an idea of whether
 Apple even considers this to be an official bug and when they might be able
 to fix it.


 --
 Julian Y. Koh
 Acting Associate Director, Telecommunications and Network Services
 Northwestern University Information Technology (NUIT)

 2001 Sheridan Road #G-166
 Evanston, IL 60208
 847-467-5780
 NUIT Web Site: http://www.it.northwestern.edu/
 PGP Public Key:http://bt.ittns.northwestern.edu/julian/pgppubkey.html

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Problems with new Apple Laptops

2013-09-30 Thread James Andrewartha 
Not sure if it's the same problem, but I've got a 2012 MBA running
10.8.4 that's experiencing disconnects. Reading the logs it thinks it's
still got an 802.1x connection when it tries to reconnect to the
wireless, and it has a 169.254.x.x IP address. If I click Disconnect on
the 802.1x connection in the Network preferences, it fully disconnects
and loses its IP, but doesn't reconnect. The RADIUS server (Enterasys
NAC) logs show it was authenticating successfully many times, often as
little as 4 or 5 seconds apart, but it couldn't associate to the
wireless once it did.

On 27/09/13 04:43, Julian Y Koh wrote:
 On Sep 26, 2013, at 15:39 , Travis Schick trsch...@ucdavis.edu
  wrote:

 I have found that this delay will go away if the cert used for WPA2 auth is 
 updated to also always trust for SSL.   
 
 That seems suboptimal.  Not just because you need to get your clients to 
 change configs, but I wonder how that affects overall trust and if it opens 
 you up to other holes.  For example, does changing that setting on the client 
 mean that you won't be able to revoke that certificate?  What if your 
 certificate and key get stolen and then used to set up a malicious site 
 somewhere?  

The SSL certificate (actually, the CA that signs it) is already set to
always trust for everything.

 Someone else can do that testing.  :)
 
 Another vendor is recommending that a timeout value for EAP responses be 
 raised from its default 5 second value to 30 seconds, since the Macs are 
 eventually responding - it just takes a long time in some cases.  

I've upped my RADIUS timeout to 30 seconds (from 15), I'll see if that
has any effect.

-- 
James Andrewartha
Network  Projects Engineer
Christ Church Grammar School
Claremont, Western Australia
Ph. (08) 9442 1757
Mob. 0424 160 877

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Problems with new Apple Laptops

2013-09-26 Thread Jason Cook 
Thanks Mike,
A bit of playing has shown why we haven’t had too many complaints, but when 
there is one we know why. The one user that had issues every couple of minutes 
was in between 2 AP’s, but each AP had a  different controller backend so 
re-auth. Migrated so that both AP’s were on the same  controller and issue went 
way. Well it’s still there, however the trigger event for a re-auth is much 
less so the impact is minimal. Typically we keep all AP’s in a building on the 
same controller.
Jeff,
We have Cisco so yes, but we don’t have a guest portal. If a client can’t 
connect it  normally falls back to the next available in the wlan list.


--
Jason Cook
Technology Services
The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005
Ph: +61 8 8313 4800

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Sessler
Sent: Wednesday, 25 September 2013 1:41 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Problems with new Apple Laptops

Are Cisco customers seeing this as well? I'm seeing a number of Macs falling 
back to a guest portal from our WPA2, and I'm wondering if this problem is 
related to it.

Jeff

 On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 at 6:24 AM, in message 
 CAHh=-9XjmX=fbwata0glcjb4pna8hao628yarc3zc1t29lt...@mail.gmail.commailto:CAHh=-9XjmX=fbwata0glcjb4pna8hao628yarc3zc1t29lt...@mail.gmail.com,
  Hanson, Mike mhan...@css.edumailto:mhan...@css.edu wrote:
Jason,

Here is more information from an Aruba wireless forum. Seems to be an issue 
with Macs and certs.

http://community.arubanetworks.com/t5/groups/groupmessagepage/board-id/edu/message-id/200#M200

Mike


Mike Hanson, CISSP
Network Security Manager
The College of St. Scholastica
Duluth, MN 55811




On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Jason Cook 
jason.c...@adelaide.edu.aumailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au wrote:
Just wondering what the various workarounds people have tried with any success 
at all to this issue? The first patch doesn’t appear to have done the job, and 
who knows when the final fix will come. I seem to remember it took Intel the 
best part of a year to resolve 802.11n issues in their 5000 series cards.
We had one user who was getting dropouts every couple of minutes with sometimes 
an almost instant re-connect to minutes. This was after installing the update 
patch. The device has no such issues however on a WPA2/AES-PSK network. This 
has been good to provide a solution there, however PSK’s are not overly 
scalable for a campus.
Another user reports that disabling v6  some sleep settings have helped the 
situation somewhat. I’m hoping to get more information on that sometime today.
I see Travis mentioned below an idrequest time-out increase from 5-30 seconds 
on Aruba.
I’m doing a bit of research now and considering little session of testing later 
in the week so was interested to see what people have tried and how much it’s 
helped. Either client or network side.
--
Jason Cook
Technology Services
The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005
Ph : +61 8 8313 4800tel:%2B61%208%208313%204800
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU]
 On Behalf Of Shandon Bates
Sent: Saturday, 20 July 2013 10:19 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Problems with new Apple Laptops
Should be patch issued...

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 19, 2013, at 5:10 PM, Shandon Bates 
shan...@uoregon.edumailto:shan...@uoregon.edu wrote:
Patch issues for air issues.


http://mashable.com/2013/07/19/macbook-air-wifi-fix/

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 19, 2013, at 4:53 PM, Travis Schick 
trsch...@ucdavis.edumailto:trsch...@ucdavis.edu wrote:
I've been getting reports of issues with macbooks on our wpa2-enterprise ssid - 
then I finally got one and was able to do some hands on troubleshooting.
It appeared the mac would decide to roam - but then would fail to auth - and 
get stuck in authentication step - wifi menu icon just cycling like no 
connection. Worked with our vendor (aruba) and decided to increase the default 
idrequest timeout from 5 sec to 30sec. I think there's something going on when 
reauthenticating to another AP on the same ssid. tunnel setup takes a while on 
the macbook - I think it may be related to the cert - using the incommon cert - 
so have server cert incommon intermediate and addtrust root ca... this is a 
chunk of data that gets fragmented... not sure if the mac doesn't like 
reassembling it - takes exception to it comming from a new bssid or what. But 
it does look like increasing the timeout helps... still a few second without 
connectivity - but sure as heck beats the macbook getting stuck in its 
authentication step and staying offline until user intervenes.
so still looking into it, but perhaps that info might prove helpful to others.
macbook is running 10.8.4 - and I was running

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Problems with new Apple Laptops

2013-09-26 Thread Jeffrey Sessler 
Based on the feedback I'm starting to think that the delay in auth is
triggering a login fail on the Cisco side, and after three attempts,
it's excluding the client for 15 mins.
 
One of my students said: The WPA WiFi just goes away and then I can't
connect to any of the SSIDs (WPA, portal, open) - after 15 mins it
starts working again. I'm also seeing a significant increase in the
excluded clients count.
 
In one residential hall, I found a few AP's not on the same controller,
and moved them all to the same, and it does appear to help, especially
for those between AP's.
 
Jeff

 On Wednesday, September 25, 2013 at 11:33 PM, in message
9b14e007db035b49b466f094e5a6ed3638f25...@mailmb02.ad.adelaide.edu.au,
Jason Cook jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au wrote:


Thanks Mike,
A bit of playing has shown why we haven’t had too many complaints, but
when there is one we know why. The one user that had issues every couple
of minutes was in between 2 AP’s, but each AP had a  different
controller backend so re-auth. Migrated so that both AP’s were on the
same  controller and issue went way. Well it’s still there, however the
trigger event for a re-auth is much less so the impact is minimal.
Typically we keep all AP’s in a building on the same controller.
Jeff, 
We have Cisco so yes, but we don’t have a guest portal. If a client
can’t connect it  normally falls back to the next available in the
wlan list. 
 
 
--
Jason Cook
Technology Services
The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005
Ph: +61 8 8313 4800

 
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeffrey
Sessler
Sent: Wednesday, 25 September 2013 1:41 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Problems with new Apple Laptops

 
Are Cisco customers seeing this as well? I'm seeing a number of Macs
falling back to a guest portal from our WPA2, and I'm wondering if this
problem is related to it.

 

Jeff

 On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 at 6:24 AM, in message
CAHh=-9XjmX=fbwata0glcjb4pna8hao628yarc3zc1t29lt...@mail.gmail.com,
Hanson, Mike mhan...@css.edu wrote:


Jason,

 

Here is more information from an Aruba wireless forum. Seems to be an
issue with Macs and certs.

 

http://community.arubanetworks.com/t5/groups/groupmessagepage/board-id/edu/message-id/200#M200

 

Mike

 

 

Mike Hanson, CISSP
Network Security Manager
The College of St. Scholastica
Duluth, MN 55811

 

 

 

 

On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Jason Cook
jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au wrote:

Just wondering what the various workarounds people have tried with any
success at all to this issue? The first patch doesn’t appear to have
done the job, and who knows when the final fix will come. I seem to
remember it took Intel the best part of a year to resolve 802.11n issues
in their 5000 series cards. 
We had one user who was getting dropouts every couple of minutes with
sometimes an almost instant re-connect to minutes. This was after
installing the update patch. The device has no such issues however on a
WPA2/AES-PSK network. This has been good to provide a solution there,
however PSK’s are not overly scalable for a campus.
Another user reports that disabling v6  some sleep settings have
helped the situation somewhat. I’m hoping to get more information on
that sometime today. 
I see Travis mentioned below an idrequest time-out increase from 5-30
seconds on Aruba.
I’m doing a bit of research now and considering little session of
testing later in the week so was interested to see what people have
tried and how much it’s helped. Either client or network side.

--
Jason Cook
Technology Services
The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005
Ph : +61 8 8313 4800 ( tel:%2B61%208%208313%204800 )

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Shandon Bates
Sent: Saturday, 20 July 2013 10:19 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Problems with new Apple Laptops

Should be patch issued...

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 19, 2013, at 5:10 PM, Shandon Bates shan...@uoregon.edu
wrote:



Patch issues for air issues.

 

 

http://mashable.com/2013/07/19/macbook-air-wifi-fix/


Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 19, 2013, at 4:53 PM, Travis Schick trsch...@ucdavis.edu
wrote:



I've been getting reports of issues with macbooks on our
wpa2-enterprise ssid - then I finally got one and was able to do some
hands on troubleshooting.

It appeared the mac would decide to roam - but then would fail to auth
- and get stuck in authentication step - wifi menu icon just cycling
like no connection. Worked with our vendor (aruba) and decided to
increase the default idrequest timeout from 5 sec to 30sec. I think
there's something going on when reauthenticating to another AP on the
same ssid. tunnel setup takes a while on the macbook - I think it may be
related to the cert - using the incommon cert - so have server cert
incommon intermediate

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Problems with new Apple Laptops

2013-09-26 Thread Travis Schick 
I have found that this delay will go away if the cert used for WPA2 auth is
updated to also always trust for SSL.

find the cert in Keychain Access - then under trust settings add Secure
Socket Layer (ssl) - by default only EAP and X.509 is explicitly trusted

Unfortunately this is something that needs to be changed on each client
device - and one needs root/admin priv on the macbook to make the change.





On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 8:28 AM, Jeffrey Sessler j...@scrippscollege.eduwrote:

  Based on the feedback I'm starting to think that the delay in auth is
 triggering a login fail on the Cisco side, and after three attempts, it's
 excluding the client for 15 mins.

 One of my students said: The WPA WiFi just goes away and then I can't
 connect to any of the SSIDs (WPA, portal, open) - after 15 mins it starts
 working again. I'm also seeing a significant increase in the excluded
 clients count.

 In one residential hall, I found a few AP's not on the same controller,
 and moved them all to the same, and it does appear to help, especially for
 those between AP's.

 Jeff

  On Wednesday, September 25, 2013 at 11:33 PM, in message 
 9b14e007db035b49b466f094e5a6ed3638f25...@mailmb02.ad.adelaide.edu.au,
 Jason Cook jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au wrote:

 Thanks Mike,
 A bit of playing has shown why we haven’t had too many complaints, but
 when there is one we know why. The one user that had issues every couple of
 minutes was in between 2 AP’s, but each AP had a  different controller
 backend so re-auth. Migrated so that both AP’s were on the same  controller
 and issue went way. Well it’s still there, however the trigger event for a
 re-auth is much less so the impact is minimal. Typically we keep all AP’s
 in a building on the same controller.

 Jeff,
 We have Cisco so yes, but we don’t have a guest portal. If a client can’t
 connect it  normally falls back to the next available in the wlan list. **
 **

 ** **

 ** **

 --

 Jason Cook

 Technology Services

 The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005

 Ph: +61 8 8313 4800

 ** **

 *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
 WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Jeffrey Sessler
 *Sent:* Wednesday, 25 September 2013 1:41 AM
 *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Problems with new Apple Laptops

 ** **

 Are Cisco customers seeing this as well? I'm seeing a number of Macs
 falling back to a guest portal from our WPA2, and I'm wondering if this
 problem is related to it.

  

 Jeff

  On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 at 6:24 AM, in message 
 CAHh=-9XjmX=fbwata0glcjb4pna8hao628yarc3zc1t29lt...@mail.gmail.com,
 Hanson, Mike mhan...@css.edu wrote:

 Jason,

 ** **

 Here is more information from an Aruba wireless forum. Seems to be an
 issue with Macs and certs.

 ** **


 http://community.arubanetworks.com/t5/groups/groupmessagepage/board-id/edu/message-id/200#M200
 

 ** **

 Mike

 ** **

 ** **

 Mike Hanson, CISSP
 Network Security Manager
 The College of St. Scholastica
 Duluth, MN 55811

 ** **

 ** **

 ** **

 ** **

 On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Jason Cook jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au
 wrote:

 Just wondering what the various workarounds people have tried with any
 success at all to this issue? The first patch doesn’t appear to have done
 the job, and who knows when the final fix will come. I seem to remember it
 took Intel the best part of a year to resolve 802.11n issues in their 5000
 series cards. 

 We had one user who was getting dropouts every couple of minutes with
 sometimes an almost instant re-connect to minutes. This was after
 installing the update patch. The device has no such issues however on a
 WPA2/AES-PSK network. This has been good to provide a solution there,
 however PSK’s are not overly scalable for a campus.

 Another user reports that disabling v6  some sleep settings have helped
 the situation somewhat. I’m hoping to get more information on that sometime
 today. 

 I see Travis mentioned below an idrequest time-out increase from 5-30
 seconds on Aruba.

 I’m doing a bit of research now and considering little session of testing
 later in the week so was interested to see what people have tried and how
 much it’s helped. Either client or network side.

 --

 Jason Cook

 Technology Services

 The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005

 Ph : +61 8 8313 4800

 *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
 WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Shandon Bates
 *Sent:* Saturday, 20 July 2013 10:19 AM
 *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Problems with new Apple Laptops

 Should be patch issued...

 Sent from my iPhone


 On Jul 19, 2013, at 5:10 PM, Shandon Bates shan...@uoregon.edu wrote:*
 ***

  Patch issues for air issues.

 ** **

 ** **

 http://mashable.com/2013

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Problems with new Apple Laptops

2013-09-26 Thread Julian Y Koh 
On Sep 26, 2013, at 15:39 , Travis Schick trsch...@ucdavis.edu
 wrote:
 
 I have found that this delay will go away if the cert used for WPA2 auth is 
 updated to also always trust for SSL.   

That seems suboptimal.  Not just because you need to get your clients to change 
configs, but I wonder how that affects overall trust and if it opens you up to 
other holes.  For example, does changing that setting on the client mean that 
you won't be able to revoke that certificate?  What if your certificate and key 
get stolen and then used to set up a malicious site somewhere?  

Someone else can do that testing.  :)

Another vendor is recommending that a timeout value for EAP responses be raised 
from its default 5 second value to 30 seconds, since the Macs are eventually 
responding - it just takes a long time in some cases.  


-- 
Julian Y. Koh
Acting Associate Director, Telecommunications and Network Services
Northwestern University Information Technology (NUIT)

2001 Sheridan Road #G-166
Evanston, IL 60208
847-467-5780
NUIT Web Site: http://www.it.northwestern.edu/
PGP Public Key:http://bt.ittns.northwestern.edu/julian/pgppubkey.html

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Problems with new Apple Laptops

2013-09-26 Thread Travis Schick 
Apple has confirmed that it is a cert validation delay...  and they do
respond... eventually - setting the dealy to 30 - at least allow the Macs
to eventually get online - vs getting stuck in the auth state and requiring
user intervention.

I don't think it should impact security holes... technically inside the eap
transaction its and SSL exchange when the cert is being used - at least for
PEAP and TTLS  but then yes... this shouldn't allow someone to steal
this cert/key and use to create trusted websites - since the browser is
using its on cert store/trust mechanism - i beleive these system trusts are
only for logins




On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Julian Y Koh kohs...@northwestern.eduwrote:

 On Sep 26, 2013, at 15:39 , Travis Schick trsch...@ucdavis.edu
  wrote:
 
  I have found that this delay will go away if the cert used for WPA2 auth
 is updated to also always trust for SSL.

 That seems suboptimal.  Not just because you need to get your clients to
 change configs, but I wonder how that affects overall trust and if it opens
 you up to other holes.  For example, does changing that setting on the
 client mean that you won't be able to revoke that certificate?  What if
 your certificate and key get stolen and then used to set up a malicious
 site somewhere?

 Someone else can do that testing.  :)

 Another vendor is recommending that a timeout value for EAP responses be
 raised from its default 5 second value to 30 seconds, since the Macs are
 eventually responding - it just takes a long time in some cases.


 --
 Julian Y. Koh
 Acting Associate Director, Telecommunications and Network Services
 Northwestern University Information Technology (NUIT)

 2001 Sheridan Road #G-166
 Evanston, IL 60208
 847-467-5780
 NUIT Web Site: http://www.it.northwestern.edu/
 PGP Public Key:http://bt.ittns.northwestern.edu/julian/pgppubkey.html

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Problems with new Apple Laptops

2013-09-24 Thread Hanson, Mike 
Jason,

Here is more information from an Aruba wireless forum. Seems to be an issue
with Macs and certs.

http://community.arubanetworks.com/t5/groups/groupmessagepage/board-id/edu/message-id/200#M200

Mike


Mike Hanson, CISSP
Network Security Manager
The College of St. Scholastica
Duluth, MN 55811






On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Jason Cook jason.c...@adelaide.edu.auwrote:

  Just wondering what the various workarounds people have tried with any
 success at all to this issue? The first patch doesn’t appear to have done
 the job, and who knows when the final fix will come. I seem to remember it
 took Intel the best part of a year to resolve 802.11n issues in their 5000
 series cards. 

 ** **

 We had one user who was getting dropouts every couple of minutes with
 sometimes an almost instant re-connect to minutes. This was after
 installing the update patch. The device has no such issues however on a
 WPA2/AES-PSK network. This has been good to provide a solution there,
 however PSK’s are not overly scalable for a campus.

 ** **

 Another user reports that disabling v6  some sleep settings have helped
 the situation somewhat. I’m hoping to get more information on that sometime
 today. 

 ** **

 I see Travis mentioned below an idrequest time-out increase from 5-30
 seconds on Aruba.

 ** **

 I’m doing a bit of research now and considering little session of testing
 later in the week so was interested to see what people have tried and how
 much it’s helped. Either client or network side.

 ** **

 --

 Jason Cook

 Technology Services

 The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005

 Ph: +61 8 8313 4800

 ** **

 *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
 WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Shandon Bates
 *Sent:* Saturday, 20 July 2013 10:19 AM
 *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Problems with new Apple Laptops

 ** **

 Should be patch issued...

 Sent from my iPhone


 On Jul 19, 2013, at 5:10 PM, Shandon Bates shan...@uoregon.edu wrote:*
 ***

  Patch issues for air issues.



 



 

 http://mashable.com/2013/07/19/macbook-air-wifi-fix/


 Sent from my iPhone


 On Jul 19, 2013, at 4:53 PM, Travis Schick trsch...@ucdavis.edu wrote:
 

I've been getting reports of issues with macbooks on our
 wpa2-enterprise ssid - then I finally got one and was able to do some hands
 on troubleshooting.

 It appeared the mac would decide to roam - but then would fail to auth -
 and get stuck in authentication step - wifi menu icon just cycling like no
 connection.Worked with our vendor (aruba)  and decided to increase the
 default idrequest timeout from 5 sec to 30sec.   I think there's something
 going on when reauthenticating to another AP on the same ssid.   tunnel
 setup takes a while on the macbook - I think it may be related to the cert
 - using the incommon cert - so have server cert incommon intermediate and
 addtrust root ca... this is a chunk of data that gets fragmented... not
 sure if the mac doesn't like reassembling it - takes exception to it
 comming from a new bssid or what.But it does look like increasing the
 timeout helps... still a few second without connectivity - but sure as heck
 beats the macbook getting stuck in its authentication step and staying
 offline until user intervenes.

 so still looking into it, but perhaps that info might prove helpful to
 others.

 macbook is running 10.8.4 - and I was running that prior to changing my
 timer settings.

 ** **

 Travis Schick

 UCDavis Network Operations Center

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Problems with new Apple Laptops

2013-09-24 Thread Jeffrey Sessler 
Are Cisco customers seeing this as well? I'm seeing a number of Macs
falling back to a guest portal from our WPA2, and I'm wondering if this
problem is related to it.
 
Jeff

 On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 at 6:24 AM, in message
CAHh=-9XjmX=fbwata0glcjb4pna8hao628yarc3zc1t29lt...@mail.gmail.com,
Hanson, Mike mhan...@css.edu wrote:

Jason,

Here is more information from an Aruba wireless forum. Seems to be an
issue with Macs and certs.

http://community.arubanetworks.com/t5/groups/groupmessagepage/board-id/edu/message-id/200#M200

Mike


Mike Hanson, CISSP
Network Security Manager
The College of St. Scholastica
Duluth, MN 55811






On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Jason Cook
jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au wrote:



Just wondering what the various workarounds people have tried with any
success at all to this issue? The first patch doesn’t appear to have
done the job, and who knows when the final fix will come. I seem to
remember it took Intel the best part of a year to resolve 802.11n issues
in their 5000 series cards. 

We had one user who was getting dropouts every couple of minutes with
sometimes an almost instant re-connect to minutes. This was after
installing the update patch. The device has no such issues however on a
WPA2/AES-PSK network. This has been good to provide a solution there,
however PSK’s are not overly scalable for a campus.

Another user reports that disabling v6  some sleep settings have
helped the situation somewhat. I’m hoping to get more information on
that sometime today. 

I see Travis mentioned below an idrequest time-out increase from 5-30
seconds on Aruba.

I’m doing a bit of research now and considering little session of
testing later in the week so was interested to see what people have
tried and how much it’s helped. Either client or network side.


--
Jason Cook
Technology Services
The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005
Ph : +61 8 8313 4800 ( tel:%2B61%208%208313%204800 )



From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Shandon Bates
Sent: Saturday, 20 July 2013 10:19 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Problems with new Apple Laptops



Should be patch issued...

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 19, 2013, at 5:10 PM, Shandon Bates shan...@uoregon.edu
wrote:



Patch issues for air issues.









http://mashable.com/2013/07/19/macbook-air-wifi-fix/


Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 19, 2013, at 4:53 PM, Travis Schick trsch...@ucdavis.edu
wrote:



I've been getting reports of issues with macbooks on our
wpa2-enterprise ssid - then I finally got one and was able to do some
hands on troubleshooting.

It appeared the mac would decide to roam - but then would fail to auth
- and get stuck in authentication step - wifi menu icon just cycling
like no connection. Worked with our vendor (aruba) and decided to
increase the default idrequest timeout from 5 sec to 30sec. I think
there's something going on when reauthenticating to another AP on the
same ssid. tunnel setup takes a while on the macbook - I think it may be
related to the cert - using the incommon cert - so have server cert
incommon intermediate and addtrust root ca... this is a chunk of data
that gets fragmented... not sure if the mac doesn't like reassembling it
- takes exception to it comming from a new bssid or what. But it does
look like increasing the timeout helps... still a few second without
connectivity - but sure as heck beats the macbook getting stuck in its
authentication step and staying offline until user intervenes.

so still looking into it, but perhaps that info might prove helpful to
others.

macbook is running 10.8.4 - and I was running that prior to changing my
timer settings.



Travis Schick

UCDavis Network Operations Center


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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Problems with new Apple Laptops

2013-09-23 Thread Jason Cook 
Just wondering what the various workarounds people have tried with any success 
at all to this issue? The first patch doesn't appear to have done the job, and 
who knows when the final fix will come. I seem to remember it took Intel the 
best part of a year to resolve 802.11n issues in their 5000 series cards.

We had one user who was getting dropouts every couple of minutes with sometimes 
an almost instant re-connect to minutes. This was after installing the update 
patch. The device has no such issues however on a WPA2/AES-PSK network. This 
has been good to provide a solution there, however PSK's are not overly 
scalable for a campus.

Another user reports that disabling v6  some sleep settings have helped the 
situation somewhat. I'm hoping to get more information on that sometime today.

I see Travis mentioned below an idrequest time-out increase from 5-30 seconds 
on Aruba.

I'm doing a bit of research now and considering little session of testing later 
in the week so was interested to see what people have tried and how much it's 
helped. Either client or network side.

--
Jason Cook
Technology Services
The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005
Ph: +61 8 8313 4800

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Shandon Bates
Sent: Saturday, 20 July 2013 10:19 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Problems with new Apple Laptops

Should be patch issued...

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 19, 2013, at 5:10 PM, Shandon Bates 
shan...@uoregon.edumailto:shan...@uoregon.edu wrote:
Patch issues for air issues.




http://mashable.com/2013/07/19/macbook-air-wifi-fix/

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 19, 2013, at 4:53 PM, Travis Schick 
trsch...@ucdavis.edumailto:trsch...@ucdavis.edu wrote:
I've been getting reports of issues with macbooks on our wpa2-enterprise ssid - 
then I finally got one and was able to do some hands on troubleshooting.
It appeared the mac would decide to roam - but then would fail to auth - and 
get stuck in authentication step - wifi menu icon just cycling like no 
connection.Worked with our vendor (aruba)  and decided to increase the 
default idrequest timeout from 5 sec to 30sec.   I think there's something 
going on when reauthenticating to another AP on the same ssid.   tunnel setup 
takes a while on the macbook - I think it may be related to the cert - using 
the incommon cert - so have server cert incommon intermediate and addtrust root 
ca... this is a chunk of data that gets fragmented... not sure if the mac 
doesn't like reassembling it - takes exception to it comming from a new bssid 
or what.But it does look like increasing the timeout helps... still a few 
second without connectivity - but sure as heck beats the macbook getting stuck 
in its authentication step and staying offline until user intervenes.
so still looking into it, but perhaps that info might prove helpful to others.
macbook is running 10.8.4 - and I was running that prior to changing my timer 
settings.

Travis Schick
UCDavis Network Operations Center
.

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Problems with new Apple Laptops

2013-07-19 Thread Travis Schick 
I've been getting reports of issues with macbooks on our wpa2-enterprise
ssid - then I finally got one and was able to do some hands on
troubleshooting.

It appeared the mac would decide to roam - but then would fail to auth -
and get stuck in authentication step - wifi menu icon just cycling like no
connection.Worked with our vendor (aruba)  and decided to increase the
default idrequest timeout from 5 sec to 30sec.   I think there's something
going on when reauthenticating to another AP on the same ssid.   tunnel
setup takes a while on the macbook - I think it may be related to the cert
- using the incommon cert - so have server cert incommon intermediate and
addtrust root ca... this is a chunk of data that gets fragmented... not
sure if the mac doesn't like reassembling it - takes exception to it
comming from a new bssid or what.But it does look like increasing the
timeout helps... still a few second without connectivity - but sure as heck
beats the macbook getting stuck in its authentication step and staying
offline until user intervenes.

so still looking into it, but perhaps that info might prove helpful to
others.

macbook is running 10.8.4 - and I was running that prior to changing my
timer settings.

Travis Schick
UCDavis Network Operations Center


On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Garret Peirce pei...@maine.edu wrote:

 Curious if anyone has further info/experience related to how real this
 issue is.
 Browsing through the apple forum thread (http://bit.ly/124Jy3a) and other
 sites, there are lots
 of   me toos   but few if any mentioning a re-creatable problem w/data.

 As we embark on the latest revision of a K12 1:1 project using *many* of
 these, I'm very interested.
 Also asking our Apple contacts to dig.

 TIA,



 On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Luke Jenkins ljenk...@weber.edu wrote:

 Here is a good writeup of the performance issue by Anand Lal Shimpi on
 AnandTech:

 http://www.anandtech.com/show/7085/the-2013-macbook-air-review-13inch/10

 via https://twitter.com/wirelesssguru/status/349170483700305920

 -Luke


 On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 6:43 AM, Garret Peirce pei...@maine.edu wrote:

 This thread seems filled with  'me too' type comments more than anything
 else.
 Anyone on the list have any firsthand or more detailed info?
 Working on a project with a large # of them, so I'm interested ; I just
 don't have in hand yet.


 On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Ryan McLeod rmcl...@newhampton.orgwrote:

 ** **
 I will be out of the office until Thursday June 27th. Please direct all
 tech needs to the Tech Helpdesk. Thank you!

 GO BEYOND!
 Founded in 1821, New Hampton School is a coeducational, independent,
 college preparatory boarding and day school for students in grades 9-12 and
 postgraduate.
 www.newhampton.org
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Problems with new Apple Laptops

2013-07-19 Thread Shandon Bates 
Patch issues for air issues.


http://mashable.com/2013/07/19/macbook-air-wifi-fix/

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 19, 2013, at 4:53 PM, Travis Schick 
trsch...@ucdavis.edumailto:trsch...@ucdavis.edu wrote:

I've been getting reports of issues with macbooks on our wpa2-enterprise ssid - 
then I finally got one and was able to do some hands on troubleshooting.

It appeared the mac would decide to roam - but then would fail to auth - and 
get stuck in authentication step - wifi menu icon just cycling like no 
connection.Worked with our vendor (aruba)  and decided to increase the 
default idrequest timeout from 5 sec to 30sec.   I think there's something 
going on when reauthenticating to another AP on the same ssid.   tunnel setup 
takes a while on the macbook - I think it may be related to the cert - using 
the incommon cert - so have server cert incommon intermediate and addtrust root 
ca... this is a chunk of data that gets fragmented... not sure if the mac 
doesn't like reassembling it - takes exception to it comming from a new bssid 
or what.But it does look like increasing the timeout helps... still a few 
second without connectivity - but sure as heck beats the macbook getting stuck 
in its authentication step and staying offline until user intervenes.

so still looking into it, but perhaps that info might prove helpful to others.

macbook is running 10.8.4 - and I was running that prior to changing my timer 
settings.

Travis Schick
UCDavis Network Operations Center


On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Garret Peirce 
pei...@maine.edumailto:pei...@maine.edu wrote:
Curious if anyone has further info/experience related to how real this issue is.
Browsing through the apple forum thread (http://bit.ly/124Jy3a) and other 
sites, there are lots
of   me toos   but few if any mentioning a re-creatable problem w/data.

As we embark on the latest revision of a K12 1:1 project using *many* of these, 
I'm very interested.
Also asking our Apple contacts to dig.

TIA,



On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Luke Jenkins 
ljenk...@weber.edumailto:ljenk...@weber.edu wrote:
Here is a good writeup of the performance issue by Anand Lal Shimpi on 
AnandTech:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7085/the-2013-macbook-air-review-13inch/10

via https://twitter.com/wirelesssguru/status/349170483700305920

-Luke


On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 6:43 AM, Garret Peirce 
pei...@maine.edumailto:pei...@maine.edu wrote:
This thread seems filled with  'me too' type comments more than anything else.
Anyone on the list have any firsthand or more detailed info?
Working on a project with a large # of them, so I'm interested ; I just don't 
have in hand yet.


On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Ryan McLeod 
rmcl...@newhampton.orgmailto:rmcl...@newhampton.org wrote:
I will be out of the office until Thursday June 27th. Please direct all tech 
needs to the Tech Helpdesk. Thank you!

GO BEYOND!
Founded in 1821, New Hampton School is a coeducational, independent, college 
preparatory boarding and day school for students in grades 9-12 and 
postgraduate.
www.newhampton.orghttp://www.newhampton.org
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Problems with new Apple Laptops

2013-07-19 Thread Shandon Bates 
Should be patch issued...

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 19, 2013, at 5:10 PM, Shandon Bates 
shan...@uoregon.edumailto:shan...@uoregon.edu wrote:

Patch issues for air issues.


http://mashable.com/2013/07/19/macbook-air-wifi-fix/

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 19, 2013, at 4:53 PM, Travis Schick 
trsch...@ucdavis.edumailto:trsch...@ucdavis.edu wrote:

I've been getting reports of issues with macbooks on our wpa2-enterprise ssid - 
then I finally got one and was able to do some hands on troubleshooting.

It appeared the mac would decide to roam - but then would fail to auth - and 
get stuck in authentication step - wifi menu icon just cycling like no 
connection.Worked with our vendor (aruba)  and decided to increase the 
default idrequest timeout from 5 sec to 30sec.   I think there's something 
going on when reauthenticating to another AP on the same ssid.   tunnel setup 
takes a while on the macbook - I think it may be related to the cert - using 
the incommon cert - so have server cert incommon intermediate and addtrust root 
ca... this is a chunk of data that gets fragmented... not sure if the mac 
doesn't like reassembling it - takes exception to it comming from a new bssid 
or what.But it does look like increasing the timeout helps... still a few 
second without connectivity - but sure as heck beats the macbook getting stuck 
in its authentication step and staying offline until user intervenes.

so still looking into it, but perhaps that info might prove helpful to others.

macbook is running 10.8.4 - and I was running that prior to changing my timer 
settings.

Travis Schick
UCDavis Network Operations Center


On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Garret Peirce 
pei...@maine.edumailto:pei...@maine.edu wrote:
Curious if anyone has further info/experience related to how real this issue is.
Browsing through the apple forum thread (http://bit.ly/124Jy3a) and other 
sites, there are lots
of   me toos   but few if any mentioning a re-creatable problem w/data.

As we embark on the latest revision of a K12 1:1 project using *many* of these, 
I'm very interested.
Also asking our Apple contacts to dig.

TIA,



On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Luke Jenkins 
ljenk...@weber.edumailto:ljenk...@weber.edu wrote:
Here is a good writeup of the performance issue by Anand Lal Shimpi on 
AnandTech:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7085/the-2013-macbook-air-review-13inch/10

via https://twitter.com/wirelesssguru/status/349170483700305920

-Luke


On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 6:43 AM, Garret Peirce 
pei...@maine.edumailto:pei...@maine.edu wrote:
This thread seems filled with  'me too' type comments more than anything else.
Anyone on the list have any firsthand or more detailed info?
Working on a project with a large # of them, so I'm interested ; I just don't 
have in hand yet.


On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Ryan McLeod 
rmcl...@newhampton.orgmailto:rmcl...@newhampton.org wrote:
I will be out of the office until Thursday June 27th. Please direct all tech 
needs to the Tech Helpdesk. Thank you!

GO BEYOND!
Founded in 1821, New Hampton School is a coeducational, independent, college 
preparatory boarding and day school for students in grades 9-12 and 
postgraduate.
www.newhampton.orghttp://www.newhampton.org
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Problems with new Apple Laptops

2013-06-24 Thread Garret Peirce 
This thread seems filled with  'me too' type comments more than anything
else.
Anyone on the list have any firsthand or more detailed info?
Working on a project with a large # of them, so I'm interested ; I just
don't have in hand yet.


On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Ryan McLeod rmcl...@newhampton.org wrote:

 ** **
 I will be out of the office until Thursday June 27th. Please direct all
 tech needs to the Tech Helpdesk. Thank you!

 GO BEYOND!
 Founded in 1821, New Hampton School is a coeducational, independent,
 college preparatory boarding and day school for students in grades 9-12 and
 postgraduate.
 www.newhampton.org
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Problems with new Apple Laptops

2013-06-24 Thread Ryan McLeod 
I will be out of the office until Thursday June 27th. Please direct all
tech needs to the Tech Helpdesk. Thank you!

GO BEYOND! 
Founded in 1821, New Hampton School is a coeducational, independent,
college preparatory boarding and day school for students in grades 9-12
and postgraduate.
www.newhampton.org


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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Problems with new Apple Laptops

2013-06-24 Thread Luke Jenkins 
Here is a good writeup of the performance issue by Anand Lal Shimpi on
AnandTech:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7085/the-2013-macbook-air-review-13inch/10

via https://twitter.com/wirelesssguru/status/349170483700305920

-Luke


On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 6:43 AM, Garret Peirce pei...@maine.edu wrote:

 This thread seems filled with  'me too' type comments more than anything
 else.
 Anyone on the list have any firsthand or more detailed info?
 Working on a project with a large # of them, so I'm interested ; I just
 don't have in hand yet.


 On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Ryan McLeod rmcl...@newhampton.orgwrote:

 ** **
 I will be out of the office until Thursday June 27th. Please direct all
 tech needs to the Tech Helpdesk. Thank you!

 GO BEYOND!
 Founded in 1821, New Hampton School is a coeducational, independent,
 college preparatory boarding and day school for students in grades 9-12 and
 postgraduate.
 www.newhampton.org
  ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Problems with new Apple Laptops

2013-06-23 Thread djohnson 
Looks like this is a pretty wide spread issue.http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/06/20/users-report-wi-fi-connectivity-issues-with-apples-new-80211ac-macbook-airsDerek JohnsonData Communications CoordinatorFort Hays State University(785) 628 - 5688djohn...@fhsu.edu-The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU wrote: -To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUFrom: Charles Rumford Sent by: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv Date: 06/20/2013 10:28PMSubject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Problems with new Apple LaptopsI've started to see rumors of wireless connection issues with refreshed Apple laptops. As most of you know, Apple included AC cards in the MacBooks with this refresh.I was curious if anyone has seen any trouble with the brand new MacBooks. If there are problems, I'd like to start squashing them, and potentially putting pressure on Apple before the new school year starts.Charles RumfordNetwork EngineerISC Network OperationsUniversity of Pennsylvania(p) 215-746-2808(c) 267-398-7939**Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Problems with new Apple Laptops

2013-06-23 Thread Ryan McLeod 
I will be out of the office until Thursday June 27th. Please direct all
tech needs to the Tech Helpdesk. Thank you!

GO BEYOND! 
Founded in 1821, New Hampton School is a coeducational, independent,
college preparatory boarding and day school for students in grades 9-12
and postgraduate.
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Problems with new Apple Laptops

2013-06-20 Thread Tristan Gulyas 
Hi,

What sort of issues are you seeing?

Could you give us some insight as to what infrastructure you're running, any 
debugs/client traces collected etc?

I have yet to get my hands on the new hardware - but if there's anything we can 
do on the infrastructure to determine if we have any of these clients, that 
might help!

Cheers,
Tristan
---
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Wireless Network Engineer   M:  +61 403224484
eSolutions divisionP:  +61 3 9902 9092
Building 205  Monash University   3800   Australia

On 21/06/2013, at 1:28 PM, Charles Rumford charl...@isc.upenn.edu wrote:

 I've started to see rumors of wireless connection issues with refreshed Apple 
 laptops. As most of you know, Apple included AC cards in the MacBooks with 
 this refresh.
 
 I was curious if anyone has seen any trouble with the brand new MacBooks. If 
 there are problems, I'd like to start squashing them, and potentially putting 
 pressure on Apple before the new school year starts.
 
 
 
 Charles Rumford
 Network Engineer
 ISC Network Operations
 University of Pennsylvania
 (p) 215-746-2808
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Problems with new Apple Laptops

2013-06-20 Thread Ryan McLeod 
I will be out of the office until Thursday June 27th. Please direct all
tech needs to the Tech Helpdesk. Thank you!

GO BEYOND! 
Founded in 1821, New Hampton School is a coeducational, independent,
college preparatory boarding and day school for students in grades 9-12
and postgraduate.
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