RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325

[Bucklaew, Jerry]

> We use bridge mode for one of the wired Ethernet ports and terminate it 
> locally. This way a student can plug in to the Ethernet port and get 
> the wired floor based vlan as the other wired ports on that floor.


We did the opposite.  We bring both the ap ports and the other wired ports on 
the floor to the controller so we can captive portal all and give the same menu 
system/user experience to all.

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325

[Steve Bohrer]

On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Joachim Tingvold 
 wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Does these do any kind of “give network to the three local ethernet ports
> via the WLCs”? (i.e. that traffic from clients, connected to the wired
> ports, isn’t terminated locally?). And does it do some kind of 802.1x on
> those wired ports? Couldn’t find anything in the data sheet or on Google
> confirming/denying such features.
>
> --
> Joachim


I've not tried the 303H yet, but on the AP-205H, there are three active
ports on the bottom, and each can configured independently, either to
tunnel wired traffic back to the wireless controller, or to bridge to a
VLAN on the local switch port, (with the switch's port configured as a
"trunk" port with tagged VLANs for the wired traffic). You also specify
each port as either "trunk" or "access", and which VLANs are available, and
which is the untagged or "native" VLAN. (This is all specified on the
Mobility Controller via the "Configuration > AP Configuration > AP group >
Edit (group) > AP" section, using the "Ethernet Interface" config and a
"Wired AP" config).

Also, assuming that your switch provides POE AT to the AP-205H, then the e3
port on the bottom can output POE AF, e.g. a single wall jack powers the
AP, and then the AP's e3 POE port can power a desk VoIP phone, and if the
VoIP phone has an expansion port as well, you can plug a desktop into that.

There is also one "passthrough" port which is a straight physical
connection from a jack on the back of the AP to the leftmost jack on the
bottom of the AP. This is helpful if you are mounting the AP on a wall
plate that had two ethernet ports. Then you can plug one into the AP, and
have the other come out the bottom as a standard wired port; where we had
two jacks available, using the passthrough is a simpler config on the wired
switch ports.

We found it helpful to plug port locks into the unused ports on the bottom
of the AP, e.g. so that we don't get people complaining about the
non-working, unconnected, passthrough port at locations where there was
only a single ethernet jack.

To do these extra settings, we've split our 205H APs into different AP
groups that the surrounding ceiling-mounted APs, so that the extra port
config stuff doesn't conflict with the eth1 config of any of our AP-225s.
But I believe that if either you don't use eth1 on any existing APs, or if
you don't need e1 on the AP-205H, you could have one group do both kinds of
APs.

Steve Bohrer
IT Infrastructure, Emerson College
617-824-8523

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325

[Bucklaew, Jerry]

Joachim, 

We have 205h and are testing 303h.  For the 205h we designed it so the 3 
wired Ethernet ports are tunneled back to the controller and put on a central 
vlan.  We have the wired Ethernet ports supporting both 802.1x and mac auth.  I 
don't think you can drop the 3 ethernet ports locally unless you patch in 
another cable and use the pass-thru port.  But we have not tested local drop 
off.  We like it better going through the controller as then you can do all the 
aruba captive portal stuff.

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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325

On 2 May 2017, at 15:58, Norman Mourtada wrote:
> If these are for dorm rooms, did you take a look at the new aruba 303H 
> APs for hospitality. At Suffolk university we are planning to install 
> these in our dorm rooms this summer, wall mount using existing cat6 
> cables.
> Price is affordable at list of $495. See datasheet 
> http://www.arubanetworks.com/assets/ds/DS_AP303H.pdf

Hi,

Does these do any kind of “give network to the three local ethernet ports via 
the WLCs”? (i.e. that traffic from clients, connected to the wired ports, isn’t 
terminated locally?). And does it do some kind of 802.1x on those wired ports? 
Couldn’t find anything in the data sheet or on Google confirming/denying such 
features.

-- 
Joachim

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325

[Joachim Tingvold]

On 2 May 2017, at 15:58, Norman Mourtada wrote:
If these are for dorm rooms, did you take a look at the new aruba 303H 
APs for hospitality. At Suffolk university we are planning to install 
these in our dorm rooms this summer, wall mount using existing cat6 
cables.
Price is affordable at list of $495. See datasheet 
http://www.arubanetworks.com/assets/ds/DS_AP303H.pdf


Hi,

Does these do any kind of “give network to the three local ethernet 
ports via the WLCs”? (i.e. that traffic from clients, connected to the 
wired ports, isn’t terminated locally?). And does it do some kind of 
802.1x on those wired ports? Couldn’t find anything in the data sheet 
or on Google confirming/denying such features.


--
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325

[Edward Ip]

Here we also have cat5e cables in our dorm rooms and have not caused us any 
major connectivity problems. We choose to use the Aruba 205H in every other 
room at desk level and it has made a big difference compared to what we had in 
the past (Cisco APs in the hallway). We also use a combination of AP-225 in the 
student common lounge areas and AP-215s in the small study rooms.

Edward Ip
Algonquin College | 1385 Woodroffe Avenue | Room C316 | Ottawa | Ontario | K2G 
1V8 | Canada
algonquincollege.com

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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325

90% of my dorms have Cat5 cabling running in cable tray along outside walls so 
the cable isn’t quite up to par and not easily moved to more advantageous 
locations for AP’s.   I’m going to be re-cabling to get them out of the 
hallways.  Are you planning every room deployment of the 303’s or every other?


Steve


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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325

If these are for dorm rooms, did you take a look at the new aruba 303H APs for 
hospitality. At Suffolk university we are planning to install these in our dorm 
rooms this summer, wall mount using existing cat6 cables.
Price is affordable at list of $495. See datasheet 
http://www.arubanetworks.com/assets/ds/DS_AP303H.pdf

Norm

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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325

I get the speeds and feeds argument but I’m having a hard time justifying the 
added expense for this type of deployment scenario.

Double occupancy dorm rooms
AP’s deployed every other room
Single Cat6 cable to each AP

If a 32x or 33x could reduce my overall AP count then that would be a 
consideration (because I have a lot of wiring to do) but it’s been my 
experience that is not the case.

Steve



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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325

The 330 also has a multi-gig port for speeds >1gbps. Goes back to the channel 
bonding though…..

TJ McClintic

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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325

Bruce,
The 310 series is 4x4 with 4 MU streams.  But it is only 2SS on 2.4GHz.

325 has 2nd Ethernet port, full spatial streams in 2.4GHz, 3MU streams, and 
does 80MHz only.

315 is single Ethernet, 2SS in 2.4GHz, 4MU streams and does 160, but drops to 
2SS in 5GHz @160.

The 330 and 310 are the 2nd gen W2 chips from QCA which is why they get the 4th 
MU stream.

I can't comment on CPU.



Sent from my iPhone

On May 2, 2017, at 5:49 AM, Osborne, Bruce W

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325

[Norman Mourtada]

Every room.

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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325

90% of my dorms have Cat5 cabling running in cable tray along outside walls so 
the cable isn’t quite up to par and not easily moved to more advantageous 
locations for AP’s.   I’m going to be re-cabling to get them out of the 
hallways.  Are you planning every room deployment of the 303’s or every other?


Steve


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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325

If these are for dorm rooms, did you take a look at the new aruba 303H APs for 
hospitality. At Suffolk university we are planning to install these in our dorm 
rooms this summer, wall mount using existing cat6 cables.
Price is affordable at list of $495. See datasheet 
http://www.arubanetworks.com/assets/ds/DS_AP303H.pdf

Norm

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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325

I get the speeds and feeds argument but I’m having a hard time justifying the 
added expense for this type of deployment scenario.

Double occupancy dorm rooms
AP’s deployed every other room
Single Cat6 cable to each AP

If a 32x or 33x could reduce my overall AP count then that would be a 
consideration (because I have a lot of wiring to do) but it’s been my 
experience that is not the case.

Steve



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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325

The 330 also has a multi-gig port for speeds >1gbps. Goes back to the channel 
bonding though…..

TJ McClintic

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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325

Bruce,
The 310 series is 4x4 with 4 MU streams.  But it is only 2SS on 2.4GHz.

325 has 2nd Ethernet port, full spatial streams in 2.4GHz, 3MU streams, and 
does 80MHz only.

315 is single Ethernet, 2SS in 2.4GHz, 4MU streams and does 160, but drops to 
2SS in 5GHz @160.

The 330 and 310 are the 2nd gen W2 chips from QCA which is why they get the 4th 
MU stream.

I can't comment on CPU.



Sent from my iPhone

On May 2, 2017, at 5:49 AM, Osborne, Bruce W (Network Operations) 
<bosbo...@liberty.edu<mailto:bosbo...@liberty.edu>> wrote:

http://www.arubanetworks.com/products/networking/access-points/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.arubanetworks.com_products_networking_access-2Dpoints_=DQMFaQ=6vgNTiRn9_pqCD9hKx9JgXN1VapJQ8JVoF8oWH1AgfQ=rYfqH_8oTvcXxRxUI3x3m3Y7Nwgir7tnuoGbdZsrUM4=4zW58YOe1qDnctCvZNNRQK1W__bFlZI4X7pA5e0ZTZU=fPqdlqU53bc74W1FRn4FddBSNh_SQE2exu1_9EHUvCg=>

Checking quickly, the 330 series is 4x4 

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325

[Steve Hess]

90% of my dorms have Cat5 cabling running in cable tray along outside walls
so the cable isn’t quite up to par and not easily moved to more
advantageous locations for AP’s.   I’m going to be re-cabling to get them
out of the hallways.  Are you planning every room deployment of the 303’s
or every other?





Steve





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*Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325



If these are for dorm rooms, did you take a look at the new aruba 303H APs
for hospitality. At Suffolk university we are planning to install these in
our dorm rooms this summer, wall mount using existing cat6 cables.

Price is affordable at list of $495. See datasheet
http://www.arubanetworks.com/assets/ds/DS_AP303H.pdf



Norm



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*Sent:* Tuesday, May 02, 2017 9:41 AM
*To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
*Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325



I get the speeds and feeds argument but I’m having a hard time justifying
the added expense for this type of deployment scenario.



Double occupancy dorm rooms

AP’s deployed every other room

Single Cat6 cable to each AP



If a 32x or 33x could reduce my overall AP count then that would be a
consideration (because I have a lot of wiring to do) but it’s been my
experience that is not the case.



Steve







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The 330 also has a multi-gig port for speeds >1gbps. Goes back to the
channel bonding though…..



*TJ McClintic*



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*Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325



Bruce,

The 310 series is 4x4 with 4 MU streams.  But it is only 2SS on 2.4GHz.



325 has 2nd Ethernet port, full spatial streams in 2.4GHz, 3MU streams, and
does 80MHz only.



315 is single Ethernet, 2SS in 2.4GHz, 4MU streams and does 160, but drops
to 2SS in 5GHz @160.



The 330 and 310 are the 2nd gen W2 chips from QCA which is why they get the
4th MU stream.



I can't comment on CPU.






Sent from my iPhone


On May 2, 2017, at 5:49 AM, Osborne, Bruce W (Network Operations) <
bosbo...@liberty.edu> wrote:



http://www.arubanetworks.com/products/networking/access-points/
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.arubanetworks.com_products_networking_access-2Dpoints_=DQMFaQ=6vgNTiRn9_pqCD9hKx9JgXN1VapJQ8JVoF8oWH1AgfQ=rYfqH_8oTvcXxRxUI3x3m3Y7Nwgir7tnuoGbdZsrUM4=4zW58YOe1qDnctCvZNNRQK1W__bFlZI4X7pA5e0ZTZU=fPqdlqU53bc74W1FRn4FddBSNh_SQE2exu1_9EHUvCg=>



Checking quickly, the 330 series is 4x4 MU-MIMO and has HP SmartRate, their
multi-gigabit solution. You can get 5Gps on Cat 5e or 10Gps on Cat6A,
according to their data sheet.



http://www.arubanetworks.com/assets/so/SO_SmartRate.pdf
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.arubanetworks.com_assets_so_SO-5FSmartRate.pdf=DQMFaQ=6vgNTiRn9_pqCD9hKx9JgXN1VapJQ8JVoF8oWH1AgfQ=rYfqH_8oT

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325

[Norman Mourtada]

If these are for dorm rooms, did you take a look at the new aruba 303H APs for 
hospitality. At Suffolk university we are planning to install these in our dorm 
rooms this summer, wall mount using existing cat6 cables.
Price is affordable at list of $495. See datasheet 
http://www.arubanetworks.com/assets/ds/DS_AP303H.pdf

Norm

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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Hess
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 9:41 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325

I get the speeds and feeds argument but I’m having a hard time justifying the 
added expense for this type of deployment scenario.

Double occupancy dorm rooms
AP’s deployed every other room
Single Cat6 cable to each AP

If a 32x or 33x could reduce my overall AP count then that would be a 
consideration (because I have a lot of wiring to do) but it’s been my 
experience that is not the case.

Steve



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The 330 also has a multi-gig port for speeds >1gbps. Goes back to the channel 
bonding though…..

TJ McClintic

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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jake Snyder
Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 7:18 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325

Bruce,
The 310 series is 4x4 with 4 MU streams.  But it is only 2SS on 2.4GHz.

325 has 2nd Ethernet port, full spatial streams in 2.4GHz, 3MU streams, and 
does 80MHz only.

315 is single Ethernet, 2SS in 2.4GHz, 4MU streams and does 160, but drops to 
2SS in 5GHz @160.

The 330 and 310 are the 2nd gen W2 chips from QCA which is why they get the 4th 
MU stream.

I can't comment on CPU.



Sent from my iPhone

On May 2, 2017, at 5:49 AM, Osborne, Bruce W (Network Operations) 
<bosbo...@liberty.edu<mailto:bosbo...@liberty.edu>> wrote:

http://www.arubanetworks.com/products/networking/access-points/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.arubanetworks.com_products_networking_access-2Dpoints_=DQMFaQ=6vgNTiRn9_pqCD9hKx9JgXN1VapJQ8JVoF8oWH1AgfQ=rYfqH_8oTvcXxRxUI3x3m3Y7Nwgir7tnuoGbdZsrUM4=4zW58YOe1qDnctCvZNNRQK1W__bFlZI4X7pA5e0ZTZU=fPqdlqU53bc74W1FRn4FddBSNh_SQE2exu1_9EHUvCg=>

Checking quickly, the 330 series is 4x4 MU-MIMO and has HP SmartRate, their 
multi-gigabit solution. You can get 5Gps on Cat 5e or 10Gps on Cat6A, according 
to their data sheet.

http://www.arubanetworks.com/assets/so/SO_SmartRate.pdf<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.arubanetworks.com_assets_so_SO-5FSmartRate.pdf=DQMFaQ=6vgNTiRn9_pqCD9hKx9JgXN1VapJQ8JVoF8oWH1AgfQ=rYfqH_8oTvcXxRxUI3x3m3Y7Nwgir7tnuoGbdZsrUM4=4zW58YOe1qDnctCvZNNRQK1W__bFlZI4X7pA5e0ZTZU=HH8vGrGVBuzAKEI4jDRIWWvGTG1QvqHOnimmwjvBZj0=>

320 Series is 4x4 MU-MIMO

310 Series is 2x2 MU-MIMO

Bruce Osborne
Senior Network Engineer
Network Operations - Wireless
 (434) 592-4229
LIBERTY UNIVERSITY
Training Champions for Christ since 1971

From: Chuck Enfield [mailto:chu...@psu.edu]
Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325

The differences that I know of are:

-330 series supports VHT160.  I can’t see using it, but if you can than this is 
the AP for you.
-330 has switchable antenna polarization, which should allow better H-plane 
coverage when wall-mounting the AP. I haven’t tested this to see how well it 
works, but a bracket to wall-mount an AP while maintaining its horizontal 
orientation is pretty inexpensive.

Traditionally, each higher Aruba AP series also has more memory, and often a 
better processor, to ensure adequate performance in the densest users 
environment.  I recently asked my VAR about how the 320’s and 330’s compare in 
this way, but haven’t heard back from them yet.  Anybody know?

Chuck Enfield
Manager, Wireless Engineering
Enterprise Networking & Communication Services
The Pennsylvania State Un

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325

[Steve Hess]

I get the speeds and feeds argument but I’m having a hard time justifying
the added expense for this type of deployment scenario.



Double occupancy dorm rooms

AP’s deployed every other room

Single Cat6 cable to each AP



If a 32x or 33x could reduce my overall AP count then that would be a
consideration (because I have a lot of wiring to do) but it’s been my
experience that is not the case.



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WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *McClintic, Thomas
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 2, 2017 9:30 AM
*To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
*Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325



The 330 also has a multi-gig port for speeds >1gbps. Goes back to the
channel bonding though…..



*TJ McClintic*



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mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>] *On Behalf Of *Jake Snyder
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 2, 2017 7:18 AM
*To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
*Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325



Bruce,

The 310 series is 4x4 with 4 MU streams.  But it is only 2SS on 2.4GHz.



325 has 2nd Ethernet port, full spatial streams in 2.4GHz, 3MU streams, and
does 80MHz only.



315 is single Ethernet, 2SS in 2.4GHz, 4MU streams and does 160, but drops
to 2SS in 5GHz @160.



The 330 and 310 are the 2nd gen W2 chips from QCA which is why they get the
4th MU stream.



I can't comment on CPU.






Sent from my iPhone


On May 2, 2017, at 5:49 AM, Osborne, Bruce W (Network Operations) <
bosbo...@liberty.edu> wrote:



http://www.arubanetworks.com/products/networking/access-points/
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.arubanetworks.com_products_networking_access-2Dpoints_=DQMFaQ=6vgNTiRn9_pqCD9hKx9JgXN1VapJQ8JVoF8oWH1AgfQ=rYfqH_8oTvcXxRxUI3x3m3Y7Nwgir7tnuoGbdZsrUM4=4zW58YOe1qDnctCvZNNRQK1W__bFlZI4X7pA5e0ZTZU=fPqdlqU53bc74W1FRn4FddBSNh_SQE2exu1_9EHUvCg=>



Checking quickly, the 330 series is 4x4 MU-MIMO and has HP SmartRate, their
multi-gigabit solution. You can get 5Gps on Cat 5e or 10Gps on Cat6A,
according to their data sheet.



http://www.arubanetworks.com/assets/so/SO_SmartRate.pdf
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.arubanetworks.com_assets_so_SO-5FSmartRate.pdf=DQMFaQ=6vgNTiRn9_pqCD9hKx9JgXN1VapJQ8JVoF8oWH1AgfQ=rYfqH_8oTvcXxRxUI3x3m3Y7Nwgir7tnuoGbdZsrUM4=4zW58YOe1qDnctCvZNNRQK1W__bFlZI4X7pA5e0ZTZU=HH8vGrGVBuzAKEI4jDRIWWvGTG1QvqHOnimmwjvBZj0=>



320 Series is 4x4 MU-MIMO



310 Series is 2x2 MU-MIMO



*Bruce Osborne*

*Senior Network Engineer*

*Network Operations - Wireless*

 *(434) 592-4229*

*LIBERTY UNIVERSITY*

*Training Champions for Christ since 1971*



*From:* Chuck Enfield [mailto:chu...@psu.edu <chu...@psu.edu>]
*Sent:* Monday, May 1, 2017 12:46 PM
*Subject:* Re: Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325



The differences that I know of are:



-330 series supports VHT160.  I can’t see using it, but if you can than
this is the AP for you.

-330 has switchable antenna polarization, which should allow better H-plane
coverage when wall-mounting the AP. I haven’t tested this to see how well
it works, but a bracket to wall-mount an AP while maintaining its
horizontal orientation is pretty inexpensive.



Traditionally, each higher Aruba AP series also has more memory, and often
a better processor, to ensure adequate performance in the densest users
environment.  I recently asked my VAR about how the 320’s and 330’s compare
in this way, but haven’t heard back from them yet.  Anybody know?



Chuck Enfield

Manager, Wireless Engineering

Enterprise Networking & Communication Services
The Pennsylvania State University

110H, USB2, UP, PA 16802

ph: 814.863.8715

fx: 814.865.3988



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mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>] *On Behalf Of *Steve Hess
*Sent:* Monday, May 01, 2017 12:07 PM
*To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
*Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325



Aruba folks,

Looking for opinions on whether the price premium of the
325 over the 315 is worth it.





Thanks,



Steve





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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325

[Julian Y Koh]

> On May 2, 2017, at 08:32, McClintic, Thomas  
> wrote:
> 
> Sorry, this was mentioned previously. I should have read bottom up instead of 
> top down J
> 

Insert regular tilting at windmills rant about top posting here… :) :) :)

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325

[McClintic, Thomas]

Sorry, this was mentioned previously. I should have read bottom up instead of 
top down ☺

TJ McClintic


From: McClintic, Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 8:30 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325

The 330 also has a multi-gig port for speeds >1gbps. Goes back to the channel 
bonding though…..

TJ McClintic

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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jake Snyder
Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 7:18 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325

Bruce,
The 310 series is 4x4 with 4 MU streams.  But it is only 2SS on 2.4GHz.

325 has 2nd Ethernet port, full spatial streams in 2.4GHz, 3MU streams, and 
does 80MHz only.

315 is single Ethernet, 2SS in 2.4GHz, 4MU streams and does 160, but drops to 
2SS in 5GHz @160.

The 330 and 310 are the 2nd gen W2 chips from QCA which is why they get the 4th 
MU stream.

I can't comment on CPU.



Sent from my iPhone

On May 2, 2017, at 5:49 AM, Osborne, Bruce W (Network Operations) 
<bosbo...@liberty.edu<mailto:bosbo...@liberty.edu>> wrote:

http://www.arubanetworks.com/products/networking/access-points/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.arubanetworks.com_products_networking_access-2Dpoints_=DQMFaQ=6vgNTiRn9_pqCD9hKx9JgXN1VapJQ8JVoF8oWH1AgfQ=rYfqH_8oTvcXxRxUI3x3m3Y7Nwgir7tnuoGbdZsrUM4=4zW58YOe1qDnctCvZNNRQK1W__bFlZI4X7pA5e0ZTZU=fPqdlqU53bc74W1FRn4FddBSNh_SQE2exu1_9EHUvCg=>

Checking quickly, the 330 series is 4x4 MU-MIMO and has HP SmartRate, their 
multi-gigabit solution. You can get 5Gps on Cat 5e or 10Gps on Cat6A, according 
to their data sheet.

http://www.arubanetworks.com/assets/so/SO_SmartRate.pdf<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.arubanetworks.com_assets_so_SO-5FSmartRate.pdf=DQMFaQ=6vgNTiRn9_pqCD9hKx9JgXN1VapJQ8JVoF8oWH1AgfQ=rYfqH_8oTvcXxRxUI3x3m3Y7Nwgir7tnuoGbdZsrUM4=4zW58YOe1qDnctCvZNNRQK1W__bFlZI4X7pA5e0ZTZU=HH8vGrGVBuzAKEI4jDRIWWvGTG1QvqHOnimmwjvBZj0=>

320 Series is 4x4 MU-MIMO

310 Series is 2x2 MU-MIMO

Bruce Osborne
Senior Network Engineer
Network Operations - Wireless
 (434) 592-4229
LIBERTY UNIVERSITY
Training Champions for Christ since 1971

From: Chuck Enfield [mailto:chu...@psu.edu]
Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325

The differences that I know of are:

-330 series supports VHT160.  I can’t see using it, but if you can than this is 
the AP for you.
-330 has switchable antenna polarization, which should allow better H-plane 
coverage when wall-mounting the AP. I haven’t tested this to see how well it 
works, but a bracket to wall-mount an AP while maintaining its horizontal 
orientation is pretty inexpensive.

Traditionally, each higher Aruba AP series also has more memory, and often a 
better processor, to ensure adequate performance in the densest users 
environment.  I recently asked my VAR about how the 320’s and 330’s compare in 
this way, but haven’t heard back from them yet.  Anybody know?

Chuck Enfield
Manager, Wireless Engineering
Enterprise Networking & Communication Services
The Pennsylvania State University
110H, USB2, UP, PA 16802
ph: 814.863.8715
fx: 814.865.3988

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Hess
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 12:07 PM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325

Aruba folks,
Looking for opinions on whether the price premium of the 325 
over the 315 is worth it.


Thanks,

Steve


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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325

[McClintic, Thomas]

The 330 also has a multi-gig port for speeds >1gbps. Goes back to the channel 
bonding though…..

TJ McClintic


From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jake Snyder
Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 7:18 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325

Bruce,
The 310 series is 4x4 with 4 MU streams.  But it is only 2SS on 2.4GHz.

325 has 2nd Ethernet port, full spatial streams in 2.4GHz, 3MU streams, and 
does 80MHz only.

315 is single Ethernet, 2SS in 2.4GHz, 4MU streams and does 160, but drops to 
2SS in 5GHz @160.

The 330 and 310 are the 2nd gen W2 chips from QCA which is why they get the 4th 
MU stream.

I can't comment on CPU.



Sent from my iPhone

On May 2, 2017, at 5:49 AM, Osborne, Bruce W (Network Operations) 
<bosbo...@liberty.edu<mailto:bosbo...@liberty.edu>> wrote:

http://www.arubanetworks.com/products/networking/access-points/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.arubanetworks.com_products_networking_access-2Dpoints_=DQMFaQ=6vgNTiRn9_pqCD9hKx9JgXN1VapJQ8JVoF8oWH1AgfQ=rYfqH_8oTvcXxRxUI3x3m3Y7Nwgir7tnuoGbdZsrUM4=4zW58YOe1qDnctCvZNNRQK1W__bFlZI4X7pA5e0ZTZU=fPqdlqU53bc74W1FRn4FddBSNh_SQE2exu1_9EHUvCg=>

Checking quickly, the 330 series is 4x4 MU-MIMO and has HP SmartRate, their 
multi-gigabit solution. You can get 5Gps on Cat 5e or 10Gps on Cat6A, according 
to their data sheet.

http://www.arubanetworks.com/assets/so/SO_SmartRate.pdf<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.arubanetworks.com_assets_so_SO-5FSmartRate.pdf=DQMFaQ=6vgNTiRn9_pqCD9hKx9JgXN1VapJQ8JVoF8oWH1AgfQ=rYfqH_8oTvcXxRxUI3x3m3Y7Nwgir7tnuoGbdZsrUM4=4zW58YOe1qDnctCvZNNRQK1W__bFlZI4X7pA5e0ZTZU=HH8vGrGVBuzAKEI4jDRIWWvGTG1QvqHOnimmwjvBZj0=>

320 Series is 4x4 MU-MIMO

310 Series is 2x2 MU-MIMO

Bruce Osborne
Senior Network Engineer
Network Operations - Wireless
 (434) 592-4229
LIBERTY UNIVERSITY
Training Champions for Christ since 1971

From: Chuck Enfield [mailto:chu...@psu.edu]
Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325

The differences that I know of are:

-330 series supports VHT160.  I can’t see using it, but if you can than this is 
the AP for you.
-330 has switchable antenna polarization, which should allow better H-plane 
coverage when wall-mounting the AP. I haven’t tested this to see how well it 
works, but a bracket to wall-mount an AP while maintaining its horizontal 
orientation is pretty inexpensive.

Traditionally, each higher Aruba AP series also has more memory, and often a 
better processor, to ensure adequate performance in the densest users 
environment.  I recently asked my VAR about how the 320’s and 330’s compare in 
this way, but haven’t heard back from them yet.  Anybody know?

Chuck Enfield
Manager, Wireless Engineering
Enterprise Networking & Communication Services
The Pennsylvania State University
110H, USB2, UP, PA 16802
ph: 814.863.8715
fx: 814.865.3988

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Hess
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 12:07 PM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325

Aruba folks,
Looking for opinions on whether the price premium of the 325 
over the 315 is worth it.


Thanks,

Steve


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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325

[Jake Snyder]

Bruce,
The 310 series is 4x4 with 4 MU streams.  But it is only 2SS on 2.4GHz.

325 has 2nd Ethernet port, full spatial streams in 2.4GHz, 3MU streams, and 
does 80MHz only.

315 is single Ethernet, 2SS in 2.4GHz, 4MU streams and does 160, but drops to 
2SS in 5GHz @160.

The 330 and 310 are the 2nd gen W2 chips from QCA which is why they get the 4th 
MU stream.

I can't comment on CPU.



Sent from my iPhone

> On May 2, 2017, at 5:49 AM, Osborne, Bruce W (Network Operations) 
>  wrote:
> 
>  
> http://www.arubanetworks.com/products/networking/access-points/
>  
> Checking quickly, the 330 series is 4x4 MU-MIMO and has HP SmartRate, their 
> multi-gigabit solution. You can get 5Gps on Cat 5e or 10Gps on Cat6A, 
> according to their data sheet.
>  
> http://www.arubanetworks.com/assets/so/SO_SmartRate.pdf
>  
> 320 Series is 4x4 MU-MIMO
>  
> 310 Series is 2x2 MU-MIMO
>  
> Bruce Osborne
> Senior Network Engineer
> Network Operations - Wireless
>  (434) 592-4229
> LIBERTY UNIVERSITY
> Training Champions for Christ since 1971
>  
> From: Chuck Enfield [mailto:chu...@psu.edu] 
> Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 12:46 PM
> Subject: Re: Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325
>  
> The differences that I know of are:
>  
> -330 series supports VHT160.  I can’t see using it, but if you can than this 
> is the AP for you.
> -330 has switchable antenna polarization, which should allow better H-plane 
> coverage when wall-mounting the AP. I haven’t tested this to see how well it 
> works, but a bracket to wall-mount an AP while maintaining its horizontal 
> orientation is pretty inexpensive.
>  
> Traditionally, each higher Aruba AP series also has more memory, and often a 
> better processor, to ensure adequate performance in the densest users 
> environment.  I recently asked my VAR about how the 320’s and 330’s compare 
> in this way, but haven’t heard back from them yet.  Anybody know?
>  
> Chuck Enfield
> Manager, Wireless Engineering
> Enterprise Networking & Communication Services
> The Pennsylvania State University
> 110H, USB2, UP, PA 16802
> ph: 814.863.8715
> fx: 814.865.3988
>  
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Hess
> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 12:07 PM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325
>  
> Aruba folks,
> Looking for opinions on whether the price premium of the 325 
> over the 315 is worth it. 
>  
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Steve
>  
>  
> 
> 
> Steve Hess
> Manager of Networking and Telecommunications 
> 26 E. Main St Norton, MA 02766
> t. 508-286-3413
> f. 508-286-8270
> 
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325

[Michael Davis]

Some boot info from new Aruba models:

AP-315
Model: AP-31x
DRAM:  491 MB
SF:Detected MX25U3235F with page size 64 kB, total 4 MB
Flash: 4 MB
NAND:  132 MiB
CPU: ARMv7 Processor [512f04d0] revision 0 (ARMv7), cr=10c5387d

AP-325
Model: AP-32x
DRAM:  491 MB
SF:Detected MX25U3235F with page size 64 kB, total 4 MB
Flash: 4 MB
NAND:  132 MiB
CPU: ARMv7 Processor [512f04d0] revision 0 (ARMv7), cr=10c5387d

AP-335
PU0:  T1024E, Version: 1.0, (0x85480010)
Core:  e5500, Version: 2.1, (0x80241021)
Single Source Clock Configuration
Clock Configuration:
CPU0:1200 MHz, CPU1:1200 MHz,
CCB:400  MHz,
DDR:800  MHz (1600 MT/s data rate) (Asynchronous), 
IFC:100  MHz

FMAN1: 600 MHz
QMAN:  400 MHz
L1:D-cache 32 KiB enabled
I-cache 32 KiB enabled
Board: AP-33x
I2C:   ready
SPI:   ready
DRAM:  512 MB (DDR3, 32-bit, CL=11, ECC off)
Testing 0x - 0x1fff
POST1: memory passed
Flash: SF:Detected MX25L3205D with page size 64 kB, total 4 MB
L2:256 kB enabled
Corenet Platform Cache: 256 kB enabled
Using SERDES1 Protocol: 153 (0x99)
NAND:  128 MiB

AP-365
Model: AP-36x
DRAM:  512 MiB
Flash: Detected W25Q32FV_SPI: total 4 MiB
NAND:  128 MiB
CPU: ARMv7 Processor [410fc075] revision 5 (ARMv7), cr=10c5387d
SMP: Total of 4 processors activated (384.00 BogoMIPS).


On 5/1/17 12:46 PM, Chuck Enfield wrote:


The differences that I know of are:

-330 series supports VHT160.  I can’t see using it, but if you can 
than this is the AP for you.


-330 has switchable antenna polarization, which should allow better 
H-plane coverage when wall-mounting the AP. I haven’t tested this to 
see how well it works, but a bracket to wall-mount an AP while 
maintaining its horizontal orientation is pretty inexpensive.


Traditionally, each higher Aruba AP series also has more memory, and 
often a better processor, to ensure adequate performance in the 
densest users environment.  I recently asked my VAR about how the 
320’s and 330’s compare in this way, but haven’t heard back from them 
yet.  Anybody know?


Chuck Enfield

Manager, Wireless Engineering

Enterprise Networking & Communication Services
The Pennsylvania State University

110H, USB2, UP, PA 16802

ph: 814.863.8715

fx: 814.865.3988

*From:*The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Steve Hess

*Sent:* Monday, May 01, 2017 12:07 PM
*To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
*Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325

Aruba folks,

Looking for opinions on whether the price premium of the 325 over the 
315 is worth it.


Thanks,

Steve

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325

[Chuck Enfield]

The differences that I know of are:



-330 series supports VHT160.  I can’t see using it, but if you can than this 
is the AP for you.

-330 has switchable antenna polarization, which should allow better H-plane 
coverage when wall-mounting the AP. I haven’t tested this to see how well it 
works, but a bracket to wall-mount an AP while maintaining its horizontal 
orientation is pretty inexpensive.



Traditionally, each higher Aruba AP series also has more memory, and often a 
better processor, to ensure adequate performance in the densest users 
environment.  I recently asked my VAR about how the 320’s and 330’s compare 
in this way, but haven’t heard back from them yet.  Anybody know?



Chuck Enfield

Manager, Wireless Engineering

Enterprise Networking & Communication Services
The Pennsylvania State University

110H, USB2, UP, PA 16802

ph: 814.863.8715

fx: 814.865.3988



From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Hess
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 12:07 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba AP Models - 315 vs 325



Aruba folks,

Looking for opinions on whether the price premium of the 325 
over the 315 is worth it.





Thanks,



Steve






  


  


Steve Hess


Manager of Networking and Telecommunications


26 E. Main St Norton, MA 02766


t. 508-286-3413


f. 508-286-8270


    
 



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