Win/Loss Record

2005-11-19 Thread Allen Bramhall




winning beloved, we are happy 

Sushi Sunday is 
back

winning beloved, we are 
happy
announce the happy PROMOTIONS of 
CAMELOT

winning beloved, we are 
happy
His Majesty King Gyanendra Bir Bikram 
Shah Dev has called

winning beloved, we are 
happy
lottery of everyone to enjoy 
playing

winning beloved, we are 
happy
we have 
time and again called on all to 
move

winning beloved, we are 
happy
multi-party democracy could be 
consolidated

winning beloved, we are 
happy
a "loony lefty" admits her beloved 
jihadists

winning beloved, we are 
happy
happy colour illustration will help 
children better

winning beloved, we are 
happy
you won't land a nationwide Happy 
Meal deal

winning beloved, we ar 
happy
in short, you are a fucking AOL user 


winning beloved, we are 
happy
the "go fuck yourself" guy rides a 
bike

winning beloved, we are 
happy
you keep yourself at full throttle as 
long as term’s on 



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2005-11-19 Thread Dan Waber
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2005-11-19 Thread Halvard Johnson

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Jean Baudrillard's The Conspiracy of Art.

2005-11-19 Thread phanero

Jean Baudrillard's The Conspiracy of Art.

I am enjoying this text especially as I both agree
with and disagree with the author in several
registers. His use of the texts of Jarry
is interesting and admirable, but the overall
scope of the work is negative, if forthrightly
so. It's the sort of 'is it really negation' which turns
the notion of aporia into an art itself, and I
think this is the real art of Baudrillard
in this text. Baudrillard is probably one
of the finest 'sculptors' of hermeneutic aporia
there is..(like I know. gawd whatever) Nowhere does he really explore
philosophy as an art within the text, or tear down the walls
between art, science, and literature although
he does make forays into the nexus of post-structuralist ideas
in a way which makes one think he perhaps self-
contaminated himself abit further than he lets
on. If one views the book itself as a meta-text,
as philosophy as art, then the one punctum which isn't drowned
in the fevered cross-hatchings of his aporia-opera
is his notion of the destructiveness of banality.
This is has been one of my deformed underthoughts for
many years, and JB gives an excellent rendering
of the subject.. I haven't had the time to give the book my
full attention if such a thing exists, but I am planning to
read it next to Virilio and Lotringer's The Accident of
Art but I've barely even had a chance to scan it though.
Lotringer does mention Baudrillard's book on the second
page of The Accident. There is some discussion of
the aesthetics of futurism with reference to terrorism
which is certainly interesting, a theme which is also
present in a similiar way with reference to theories
of the event in Sanford Kwinter's work Architectures
of Time which I had paired with Jonathan Crary's
Suspension of Perception.. I wanted to follow up
on the co-editors of in my humble opinion one of the
best Zone books Zone 6 Incorporations. The native
oppositions between the sets are telling and fascinating.
Virilio and Baudrillard roughly are deconstructing 'art'
while Kwinter and Crary exploit the archive to make
careful readings of perception and social evolution
through the lens of the arts.. Of the two, Kwinter's
is the text more weighted toward the literary with its
explications of immanence in the work of Kafka and
within the structures of unbuilt furturist buildings, there's
also a good deal of Bergsonism.. The Crary is much
closer to the work of Barbara Maria Stafford with its
deep perusal of medical and popular culture materials..
There is also something of an agreement between
the sets, in that explicitly the Virilio and Baudrillard treat
Modernism (especially early) and its precursors as something of a swan-song
to authenticity while the Crary and Kwinter do so implicitly
in the selection of their subject matter. I find the contrasts
and oppositions between these sets of texts to be especially
fruitful in thinking about my own hairbrained view of
things and also some small comfort in their radicalized outsider/insider
viewpoints.. There is still a good deal of the old Cynics or Kynics
in the sense of Slojterdijk, camp left and it is heartening. Both
the Baudrillard and the Virilio perform something of a Diogenesian
urinary critique on art's toga with the difference that art itself
these days loves to drink piss, though I'm sure neither of them live
in a tub or expect to find an honest man.. though it is probably mostly
whores who pay their way.. after all what idea isn't prostituted anymore.. the 
world
mind is a brothel and the sex is as cold and precise as a freshly
lubed robot, automatic.. I guess the thing I really take away from these texts
is a marvelous sense of subjectivity and a lens into another
way of seeing.. which is curiously resonant with a section
in Charles Stross' weirdo cyber-darwinian creative commons freak-opera
Accelerando where sentient alien parasitical corporations barter in 
consciousness uploads,
basically using captured digitized minds as money to sample and taste their
subjectivies, their alieness, and all of this within an ancient transgalactic 
router
whose owners deleted themselves to free themselves from their own
Artificially intelligent spam.


Re: a

2005-11-19 Thread Steve Dalachinsky
ah
ha


Re: Win/Loss Record

2005-11-19 Thread phanero



You have to meet the marebito..
Until then, it's no use trying to explain..

Not-an-Explanation:

Do you not live 
in a dualistic 
O.S.mology?

You may be 
interested in 
a Japanese Boo
ddhist sect
called jikkhai { you know maybe jicky?}
who do not see 
good and evil
as in absolute 
opposition but 
as mutually de
pendent...

Often an evil 
may bring a
bout a good, 
and also very 
opposite.

the fat heavy tongued
people have a 
fat heavy tongued
representative

it is it hard to 
believe
we are all
just scar tissue
dressing as

wabirokudo transabistraction 
or 
"rude huts"







Re: Jean Baudrillard's The Conspiracy of Art.

2005-11-19 Thread Alan Sondheim

I love this text - I'm about to review a Stafford book (that's how I got
it at the SLSA) - Body Criticism - have you read it? What's your take on
her? Also given your interests, you should absolutely check out Lingis'
Excesses if you haven't, as well as his more recent work - Alan

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Shyster

2005-11-19 Thread brueckl100
Shyster


Was oil?  Was it swapped often.  Was the id.  Was the id in the dump.  Was the 
oily fur assulted once too often.  Was the oil interleaved with the sorrow.  
Was the fluffiness like death.  Was the dump only a memory.  Is the fur a 
device to be destroyed in bitter grief.  I will rejoice with the transsexual 
fur.  Will I assult you with the interleaving grub.  Will the id of the fur be 
opposed to the deformed fluffiness of the rusty rage.  Will the configuration 
of our genitalia be swaddled in a plastic device.

Was slippery oil on  the transsexual fur.  Can you interleave my memory with 
your hidden root.  Will what is in the wasted box perish.  Alleluia!  Will you 
swap the plastic for the eaten device.  The Lord be with you.  The Lord will be 
with you.  The Lord is with you.  Is the id of the Resurrection deformed.  Who 
will oppose the black lung of my being.  Is the oozing root in the dump of 
hell.  Is memory rubberized in the box with others.  Was oil wasted on the head 
in the box.  May I eat the gnarled trite root.  Will we ever eat grub again.

Will the blood in the veins of the stars fall out of the sky, for I am a 
swollen roseate anus, a sluggish twinge strewn about, flush with the sawdust 
mucus that meddles with a nimble ruby cunt.  Will we swap what has been wasted 
and eaten.  Was the fluffiness of oil interleaved within the swapped memory of 
the hard-nosed latex.  Ram my thin vulnerable veil of skin if our dumpy 
sub-contract is stinky.

Decode my hole, smoky fire, flickering light.  Has our id been deformed 
forever.  Was what was wasted fur.  Will the devious memories of others be only 
a device.  Will what is swapped be forsaken.  Will you eat the feathers of the 
transsexual's eyelid id.  Will the id be opposed to the deformed sub-contract 
in the gutter.  Will the grub in the box be interleaved with the leaves of 
memory.  Will the transsexual gnaw on the fake waste.  Will the hard-nosed 
assault be nothing but damp fur to the oily eye of the broken-necked owl.  Was 
the root device a hidden whole.

Was the box wasted.  Fuck it up into my soft spot a little harder.  Will the 
fluffiness be totally forgotten in the grubby box.  Will we eat the deformed 
transsexual's interleaving sub-contracts down in the cellar.

Was the memory of the fur-lined box opposed to the deformed streamers screaming 
Bon Voyage.  Rant and vent, bitch, with all the angels, for I am the bread of 
death, the ego-ace plopping puke down the streaks of your jockstrap -- rabid 
asshole -- bark and squirt it off:  sac, tube, butt, tote, mutt, totem scrotum, 
tar-turd lard, loosely suckled spokes, icicle mercury, missal silo, IV'd 
dwarf knuckles, porky dork, piping towhee, shyster.


--Bob BrueckL
(some words appropriated from Jukka-Pekka Kervinen's self test


Fwd: Downtime Play

2005-11-19 Thread _dream.thick[ener]_

On my way to Zurich I just met a colleague at the airport. We both fly
routinely. I can't do it anymore. he said. All this air travel is just too
much downtime for me. I moved onward passing through airport lobbies in New
York City, London, and finally my Swiss destination. In these inbetween spaces
I was persistently confronted with big, fat back-lid ads. And they were all
about time. T-Mobile's slogan is Upgrade your downtime. The airline Jetblue
draws attention to their wireless hotspots at John F. Kennedy with the
commanding downtime-download. The mantra of the British Vodaphone is The
power of now! BT shows a jolly business man fly-jumping through what looks
like a landscape of Powerpoint charts: The digital network economy. Where
business is done. In JFK, Sprint, the American cell phone tycoon, set up
yellow placards in the size of a house that say yes to making just about any
place a work place. It made me stop. I was buffled. How dare they be so in my
face about what I perceive as the agony of immaterial labor?

Before moving to San Francisco I never heard terms like quality time or
downtime. In East Germany, for me, time was just time indiscriminately.
For a
wide variety of reasons there are many that pledge allegiance to everything
not-networked, offline, and non-digital. Who can blame them? Post-Fordist work
conditions turn the super-mobile manager into a networked lap dog. At six in
the morning those waiting in the airport gate area pull out their laptops.
Sneaking over their shoulders I see spread sheets. The networked early morning
work day starts with coffee and a cheese-and-egg-pizzas. Downtime now is
download time. Life is work. There is not enough time to rest, cook, reflect,
or walk in the woods. The insidious penetration of the Internet into our every
grain is hard to deny. Workers become part-of-the-solution-nodes rather than
full-time employees. Health insurance can be done away with. Wages in the
immaterial networked realm don't have to bear resemblance to the work that was
done. And, who ever mentioned pensions? Also Unions get whacked when the work
force is geographically pieced together. Then there is all that sense of place
stuff that Lucy Lippard was so adament about. But the uprooted lifestyle seems
like peanuts compared to what is happening now, -- the horror, the horror.
Passing through these airports, the net started to feel like an itch that we
can't scratch.

Much of the discussion about networking is focused entirely on business.
Howard
Rheingold's essay Technologies of Cooperation is magnificent and inspired,
imho, but it is written in large part to help out the amazon-dot-coms of this
world. Doug Rushkoff comments on his blog that he hopes for the ideas in his
latest book to help businesses (and well, also a few others). Fair enough.
What's wrong with that you may ask? Well, let's just say that there is an
utilitarian impetus that rarifies play and experiment at least if they don't
link up with business interests sooner rather than later. Let's just say
that I
hope for people with insight into network technologies and their human uses to
also take on projects that do not support those who already have plenty. Why
help eBay to make even more money? Who really needs our help?


Some cultural workers have much in common with managerial networked types.
Brian
Holmes points to that. It's not just the rock stars of what Richard Florida
calls the creative class who sit on planes next to the smiley jet set manager.
Artists become entrepreneur of themselves. Self-worth is quantified in
frequent
flyer miles and numbers of invitations. But the opportunistic,
ego-tripping art
enterpriser is not all there is. Cultural practioners travel and perform their
ideas all over the world. They are gift-givers with all the problematic
hierarchies that this creates. On good days they enact their ideas with
passion, inspiration and substance. The Brooklyn-based artist Martha Rosler
documented her more than frequent passing through airports in many series of
photographs and critical writing. She describes her motivation for these works
related to her occupation. And in new media as much as in photography, the
international scenes are closely knit. Travel is a substantial part of the
lives of cultural producers. I can't point to the travelling managerial
networkers over there. They are so distant and conveniently different from
me. I don't have all the ethical and political rightenousness on my side. I am
part of the picture. The network beast lives also inside me.

We move through space. We are all those cultural producers who fly thousands
of miles to talk to different audiences or present their artwork. We are quite
the experts when it comes to travel. We know it all. Airport, home, gallery,
and lecture hall are equally familiar venues for us. We have it down. We know
how to block off obnoxiously loud fellow travelers. We recognize how to remain
friendly (most of the time)- with 

extravaganza

2005-11-19 Thread Halvard Johnson

extravaganza


Re: Jean Baudrillard's The Conspiracy of Art.

2005-11-19 Thread phanero

I definitely want to look at whatever you suggest alan. The Echolalia book
sounds fascinating, but then I have always had a thing for zone books.
As for the O'Reilly stuff. It all sounds great, but really
I get enough Geektopia at work so I kind of like to get in a more 18th
Century mood at home, you know, bloody piss-stained caftan clustering
my rusty ankles, the smell of the ripe spitoon, that kind of thing..

I am waiting for a hand-signed version of Damien Hirst's only poetry book
to see what that's like though I havent researched this very deeply. I want to 
see
what such a famous contemporary artist's poetry looks like.. The book is called 
Cancer age i think.
I can always sell it and pick up the Lingis. I am also getting the exhibition 
catalogue to the Chapman's new show
Like a Dog Returns to its Vomit which curiously resonates with the Baudrillard 
text.
Actually I was a little disappointed at some of the examples or Lack of them 
Baudrillard
chose to talk about. Some of the book is interviewlets.
Have you read Zone 6? or Zone 3, or Zone 5? The Journal Alexandria is excellent 
as well.
There's some great stuff in Zone 6. Metametazoa is a great piece. as well as 
the rest.
I highly recommend Goya: The Last Carnival by Victor I Stoichita and Anna Maria 
Coderch.
This is the third Goya book I've read in 3 years. Stafford references him as do 
the Chapmans.

Barbara Maria Stafford is Brilliant, ne, and Yes, I have read it or at it.. It's
a fatty.. I keep it next to the desk as a primary reference.
Everybody should read her work. Not only Body criticism
but her Artful science as well. These are encyclopedic wunderkammernish works.
the illustration lists obscene. As far as the art goes
in body criticism, be sure to check out T. McClean's
The Body Politic or the March of the Intellect. I think that
one image sums up my whole approach, or what i 'think'
is my approach..

Better be hanged than
thus be headed

lq

- Original Message -
From: Alan Sondheim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WRYTING-L@LISTSERV.UTORONTO.CA
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: Jean Baudrillard's The Conspiracy of Art.



I love this text - I'm about to review a Stafford book (that's how I got
it at the SLSA) - Body Criticism - have you read it? What's your take on
her? Also given your interests, you should absolutely check out Lingis'
Excesses if you haven't, as well as his more recent work - Alan

( URLs/DVDs/CDroms/books/etc. see http://www.asondheim.org/advert.txt -
revised 7/05 )



Re: extravaganza

2005-11-19 Thread Ann Bogle
In a message dated 11/19/05 5:11:48 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


extravaganza


organza
organdy
organzine
orgasm


Re: Jean Baudrillard's The Conspiracy of Art.

2005-11-19 Thread Alan Sondheim

On Sat, 19 Nov 2005, phanero wrote:


I definitely want to look at whatever you suggest alan. The Echolalia book
sounds fascinating, but then I have always had a thing for zone books.
As for the O'Reilly stuff. It all sounds great, but really
I get enough Geektopia at work so I kind of like to get in a more 18th
Century mood at home, you know, bloody piss-stained caftan clustering
my rusty ankles, the smell of the ripe spitoon, that kind of thing..


The O'Reilly 'think' books and stuff like Bennahum really hold me however
- if anything these have to do with communalities, not tech -


Have you read Zone 6? or Zone 3, or Zone 5? The Journal Alexandria is


Probably not - I assume you're not talking about Zone books? Is the
Baudrillard new? I don't have it -


Barbara Maria Stafford is Brilliant, ne, and Yes, I have read it or at
it.. It's a fatty.. I keep it next to the desk as a primary reference.
Everybody should read her work. Not only Body criticism but her Artful
science as well. These are encyclopedic wunderkammernish works. the
illustration lists obscene. As far as the art goes in body criticism, be
sure to check out T. McClean's The Body Politic or the March of the
Intellect. I think that one image sums up my whole approach, or what i
'think' is my approach..


Ah - I noticed that image right away myself, Hello Dali -

- Alan, better be banged than beaded -


Better be hanged than
thus be headed

lq

- Original Message -
From: Alan Sondheim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WRYTING-L@LISTSERV.UTORONTO.CA
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: Jean Baudrillard's The Conspiracy of Art.



I love this text - I'm about to review a Stafford book (that's how I got
it at the SLSA) - Body Criticism - have you read it? What's your take on
her? Also given your interests, you should absolutely check out Lingis'
Excesses if you haven't, as well as his more recent work - Alan

( URLs/DVDs/CDroms/books/etc. see http://www.asondheim.org/advert.txt -
revised 7/05 )






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HYPERTEXT: End Fraction (fwd)

2005-11-19 Thread Alan Sondheim


-- Forwarded message --
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 11:26:56 +0900
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: HYPERTEXT: End Fraction

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and Antonin Artaud. Embracing the image mayhem of the digital age, his 
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3 events 3 images

2005-11-19 Thread Alan Sondheim

3 events 3 images

panama canal where it all began, airships floating dreamily above the
softly warming waters, languorous women smiling, men murmuring sweet
nothings in misty light

chicago fire where cities burned into fantastic rococo grotesquerie,
baroque grottos, flames mushrooming high above the world, flicking softly
against airships amidst the languorous traffic

catalina where youngsters frolicked in the waves, solitons sloughing down
burbling rivulets, now and forever, and forever young, youth on fire
eternal, baroque flames of desire flickering softly against airships in
misty light

http://www.asondheim.org/panamacanal.jpg
http://www.asondheim.org/chicagofire.jpg
http://www.asondheim.org/catalina.jpg


Re: Jean Baudrillard's The Conspiracy of Art.

2005-11-19 Thread phanero



The O'Reilly 'think' books and stuff like Bennahum really hold me however
- if anything these have to do with communalities, not tech -


of course.. you can imagine a kind of floppy freckled useless flipper a 
zombi-flipper growing
from my head, perhaps it's pierced with the etymology of Upanishad. I am always 
open to punishment.



Have you read Zone 6? or Zone 3, or Zone 5? The Journal Alexandria is


Probably not - I assume you're not talking about Zone books? Is the
Baudrillard new? I don't have it -


The Baudrillard and the Virilio are both new from Semiotext(e), both part of 
the Foreign Agents series.

I AM talking about Zone books..(not with Alexandria) They gave them numbers AND 
titles..
These are from 1987-1992 and part of the Zone Journal series
in part edited by Michel Ferer and Nadia Tazi.. Some excellent stuff in these..

These are on ZONE books imprimatur. from the MIT Zone books website:

Zone 1/2 : The Contemporary City (Paperback)
by Michel Feher (Editor), Sanford Kwinter (Editor)
This inaugural double issue of the serial publication ZONE examines the 
physical, political, and perceptual
transformations redefining the contemporary city.

Zone 3
Fragments for a History of the Human Body - Part 1
Michel Feher, Ramona Naddaff and Nadia Tazi (Eds.)
Paper / February 1989
OUT OF PRINT

Zone 4
Fragments for a History of the Human Body - Part 2
Michel Feher, Ramona Naddaff and Nadia Tazi (Eds.)
Cloth / February 1989
OUT OF PRINT

Zone 5
Fragments for a History of the Human Body - Part 3
Michel Feher, Ramona Naddaff and Nadia Tazi (Eds.)
Paper / February 1989
Price $38.50 | ADD TO CART

Zone 6
Incorporations
Jonathan Crary and Sanford Kwinter (Eds.)
Paper / October 1992
OUT OF PRINT





but then again

One dog barks at nothing
ten thousand others
pass it on







Barbara Maria Stafford is Brilliant, ne, and Yes, I have read it or at
it.. It's a fatty.. I keep it next to the desk as a primary reference.
Everybody should read her work. Not only Body criticism but her Artful
science as well. These are encyclopedic wunderkammernish works. the
illustration lists obscene. As far as the art goes in body criticism, be
sure to check out T. McClean's The Body Politic or the March of the
Intellect. I think that one image sums up my whole approach, or what i
'think' is my approach..


Ah - I noticed that image right away myself, Hello Dali -

- Alan, better be banged than beaded -


Better be hanged than
thus be headed

lq

- Original Message -
From: Alan Sondheim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WRYTING-L@LISTSERV.UTORONTO.CA
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: Jean Baudrillard's The Conspiracy of Art.



I love this text - I'm about to review a Stafford book (that's how I got
it at the SLSA) - Body Criticism - have you read it? What's your take on
her? Also given your interests, you should absolutely check out Lingis'
Excesses if you haven't, as well as his more recent work - Alan

( URLs/DVDs/CDroms/books/etc. see http://www.asondheim.org/advert.txt -
revised 7/05 )






( URLs/DVDs/CDroms/books/etc. see http://www.asondheim.org/advert.txt -
revised 7/05 )



Re: even t i'm e's ageless

2005-11-19 Thread Steve Dalachinsky
gravel
pavement
red or
or
der

span naps
per
spires
(radar/radar)
's
dire
ride


Re: Jean Baudrillard's The Conspiracy of Art.

2005-11-19 Thread phanero

Ah - I noticed that image right away myself, Hello Dali -


can't think of Dali deploying anything resembling this
except perhaps the canes echo Dali's crutches..

No I see this as part of an older tradition involving
the voices of things, that the character of things
is closely analogous to their being, that there is a
kind of  dual uncanny/unheimlich nature to all embodiment..
This seems far more related to Greek and Roman traditions
of the Grylli..but it's also cartoon philosophy.. what else to call it..
it's philosophy done as a caricature, a physiognomy

a kind of joky, fatalistic, 'humourous' physiognosis

the knees are talking wee are wretched kneee gotiators
the arse
the arms

the body as a corporate structure
cryptically echoing our endosymbiotic origins
our Arcimboldian microbial selves

Our bodies are weird evolved architectures like Microbial arcologies
if you've ever read about the chemistry involved in the evolution of vertebrate 
segmentalism
and skeletal structure, its one of the most fascinating and epic creations 
really

this image is one of the warmest most human ways to say that..
it expresses body wisdom.. there is knowledge in our tissues,
it may have flaws, or be untranslatable, but internally there is a great deal
of untapped bandwidth.. I just think these more humble folksy images
speak to an innocence and charity towards our beastliness that I identify
with


Re: Jean Baudrillard's The Conspiracy of Art.

2005-11-19 Thread Alan Sondheim

I knew the Zone books were numbered; I've never heard anyone reference
them that way. At this point I have only a few; I've traded some in,
including alas The Accursed Share. Saw a Bataille at the Salvation Army
today on the other hand...

- Alan


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The O'Reilly 'think' books and stuff like Bennahum really hold me however
- if anything these have to do with communalities, not tech -


of course.. you can imagine a kind of floppy freckled useless flipper a
zombi-flipper growing
from my head, perhaps it's pierced with the etymology of Upanishad. I am
always open to punishment.



Have you read Zone 6? or Zone 3, or Zone 5? The Journal Alexandria is


Probably not - I assume you're not talking about Zone books? Is the
Baudrillard new? I don't have it -


The Baudrillard and the Virilio are both new from Semiotext(e), both part of
the Foreign Agents series.

I AM talking about Zone books..(not with Alexandria) They gave them numbers
AND titles..
These are from 1987-1992 and part of the Zone Journal series
in part edited by Michel Ferer and Nadia Tazi.. Some excellent stuff in
these..

These are on ZONE books imprimatur. from the MIT Zone books website:

Zone 1/2 : The Contemporary City (Paperback)
by Michel Feher (Editor), Sanford Kwinter (Editor)
This inaugural double issue of the serial publication ZONE examines the
physical, political, and perceptual
transformations redefining the contemporary city.

Zone 3
Fragments for a History of the Human Body - Part 1
Michel Feher, Ramona Naddaff and Nadia Tazi (Eds.)
Paper / February 1989
OUT OF PRINT

Zone 4
Fragments for a History of the Human Body - Part 2
Michel Feher, Ramona Naddaff and Nadia Tazi (Eds.)
Cloth / February 1989
OUT OF PRINT

Zone 5
Fragments for a History of the Human Body - Part 3
Michel Feher, Ramona Naddaff and Nadia Tazi (Eds.)
Paper / February 1989
Price $38.50 | ADD TO CART

Zone 6
Incorporations
Jonathan Crary and Sanford Kwinter (Eds.)
Paper / October 1992
OUT OF PRINT





but then again

One dog barks at nothing
ten thousand others
pass it on







Barbara Maria Stafford is Brilliant, ne, and Yes, I have read it or at
it.. It's a fatty.. I keep it next to the desk as a primary reference.
Everybody should read her work. Not only Body criticism but her Artful
science as well. These are encyclopedic wunderkammernish works. the
illustration lists obscene. As far as the art goes in body criticism, be
sure to check out T. McClean's The Body Politic or the March of the
Intellect. I think that one image sums up my whole approach, or what i
'think' is my approach..


Ah - I noticed that image right away myself, Hello Dali -

- Alan, better be banged than beaded -


Better be hanged than
thus be headed

lq

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I love this text - I'm about to review a Stafford book (that's how I got
it at the SLSA) - Body Criticism - have you read it? What's your take on
her? Also given your interests, you should absolutely check out Lingis'
Excesses if you haven't, as well as his more recent work - Alan

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Re: Jean Baudrillard's The Conspiracy of Art.

2005-11-19 Thread Alan Sondheim

Also, what about segmentalism? Not sure what you're referencing here -
Alan


On Sat, 19 Nov 2005, phanero wrote:


Ah - I noticed that image right away myself, Hello Dali -


can't think of Dali deploying anything resembling this
except perhaps the canes echo Dali's crutches..

No I see this as part of an older tradition involving
the voices of things, that the character of things
is closely analogous to their being, that there is a
kind of  dual uncanny/unheimlich nature to all embodiment..
This seems far more related to Greek and Roman traditions
of the Grylli..but it's also cartoon philosophy.. what else to call it..
it's philosophy done as a caricature, a physiognomy

a kind of joky, fatalistic, 'humourous' physiognosis

the knees are talking wee are wretched kneee gotiators
the arse
the arms

the body as a corporate structure
cryptically echoing our endosymbiotic origins
our Arcimboldian microbial selves

Our bodies are weird evolved architectures like Microbial arcologies
if you've ever read about the chemistry involved in the evolution of
vertebrate segmentalism
and skeletal structure, its one of the most fascinating and epic creations
really

this image is one of the warmest most human ways to say that..
it expresses body wisdom.. there is knowledge in our tissues,
it may have flaws, or be untranslatable, but internally there is a great deal
of untapped bandwidth.. I just think these more humble folksy images
speak to an innocence and charity towards our beastliness that I identify
with




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