[WSG] liquid layout and image sizes
howdy, how do you guys tackle image sizes when using liquid layouts? to my knowledge, you can't really set relative sizes for images without indirectly cropping the image, right? this question has been loitering at the back of my mind for quite a while now. -- Thorsten ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Colour Scheme aids
Some links seem to have been already covered earlier but here is a list i had made some time back. http://karmakars.com/links/colour.php HTH. On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 20:49:42 -0600, Laura Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some color tools are listed at: http://www.d.umn.edu/goto/tools#color The following might also be useful... Color Information: http://www.d.umn.edu/goto/color Color Books: http://www.d.umn.edu/goto/books#color Laura ___ Laura L. Carlson Information Technology Systems and Services University of Minnesota Duluth Duluth, MN 55812-3009 http://www.d.umn.edu/goto/webdesign/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Regards, Amit Karmakar http://karmakars.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] liquid layout and image sizes
how do you guys tackle image sizes when using liquid layouts? to my knowledge, you can't really set relative sizes for images without indirectly cropping the image, right? Richard Rutter has written about this: http://www.clagnut.com/sandbox/imagetest/ He also talked about it in his WSG interview: http://webstandardsgroup.org/features/richard-rutter.cfm#images ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Lists and images
Hello. Here is what I'm trying to do: I have a list, each LI contains some text and an image. Text must be on the left, image on the right. Also the text must be vertical aligned middle and the height and width of the images may vary. My example: http://play.cpea.ro/css/lista.html Is this possible or not?:) -- Razvan Pop http://web-design.insoft.ro ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Lists and images
You could set your image as a background: background: url(your/image/path.img) no-repeat right center; Add margins or padding as needed. OR you could do it as a SPAN inside the list OR as a definition list and have the images as your DD floated right. Lots of different ways. On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 14:07:39 +0200, Razvan Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. Here is what I'm trying to do: I have a list, each LI contains some text and an image. Text must be on the left, image on the right. Also the text must be vertical aligned middle and the height and width of the images may vary. My example: http://play.cpea.ro/css/lista.html Is this possible or not?:) -- Razvan Pop http://web-design.insoft.ro ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Website Designer/Developer www.nataliebuxton.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] MSIE 5.2 Mac problem
Hello folks, I have created a new personal site about 1.5 weeks ago. My pages are valid XHTML and they display fine in MSIE 5.5-6 on PC, Safari, Opera, Firefox but MSIE 5.2 on MacOS X cuts off the page at the bottom. I have no idea why this is. Is there anyone who can have a look and give me some insights? The site I'm talking about is in my signature. Best regards, Marco -- Marco van Hylckama Vlieg Senior Internet Developer email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.i-marco.nl/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Lists and images
I have a list, each LI contains some text and an image. Text must be on the left, image on the right. Also the text must be vertical aligned middle and the height and width of the images may vary. Is this possible or not?:) Try this: http://www.maxdesign.com.au/jobs/css/lista.htm Not tested across many browsers but is a rough start... ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Lists and images
Nice solutions, but... Lists will be generated from a database. I can't set a class for each li or image. That's the biggest problem. Thank you. On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 23:25:02 +1000, russ - maxdesign [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a list, each LI contains some text and an image. Text must be on the left, image on the right. Also the text must be vertical aligned middle and the height and width of the images may vary. Is this possible or not?:) Try this: http://www.maxdesign.com.au/jobs/css/lista.htm Not tested across many browsers but is a rough start... ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Razvan Pop http://razvan.cpea.ro ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] liquid layout and image sizes
Thorsten wrote: how do you guys tackle image sizes when using liquid layouts? to my knowledge, you can't really set relative sizes for images without indirectly cropping the image, right? You can treat images as any other element, or in combination with other elements. Clip, crop, overflow, shrink to fit and max-width/min-width methods works well in a liquid layout. I'm not saying it is easy to make any of these methods work in a cross-browser stable way (you've got IE/win), but it is manageable - often in complex combinations. Anyway, you asked how we do it, and I use the available methods as they seem right on any given page. The shrink to fit method is my favorite. That's images relatively sized to the environment - within limits. regards Georg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Lists and images
Lists will be generated from a database. I can't set a class for each li or image. That's the biggest problem. Want a rough-as-guts solution? Write your styles into the li element on the fly from your database. Look up the image name and it height. These two bits of info can be used to general inline styles - just for the critical info. The name of the file is drawn in the style for the background image. The height of the image is divided by 2 and this figure is used as padding on top and bottom of the list. The output (completely dynamically driven) could then be something like: li style=background: url(http://play.cpea.ro/css/sistem.gif); padding-top: 20px; padding-bottom: 20px; As I said... Rough :) Russ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] MSIE 5.2 Mac problem
On 6 Nov 2004, at 11:15 PM, Marco van Hylckama Vlieg wrote:
Hello folks,
I have created a new personal site about 1.5 weeks ago. My pages are
valid XHTML and they display fine in MSIE 5.5-6 on PC, Safari, Opera,
Firefox but MSIE 5.2 on MacOS X cuts off the page at the bottom. I
have no idea why this is. Is there anyone who can have a look and give
me some insights?
The site I'm talking about is in my signature.
Best regards,
Marco
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IE5/Mac doesn't like the {height:100%;} you have assigned to div#main.
It appears to be interpreting that rule as '100% of the height of the
viewport when the page first loads'. Remove it and all is well - but
haven't checked how its absence affects all the othet browsers...
HTH
N
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[WSG] Letting clients update their site
Hi all, I¹m a one man operation and mostly do smaller sites. A lot of clients these days are requesting to be able to do their own updates on their sites, but haven¹t a clue when it comes to XHTML or CSS. What I¹d like to prevent (as one client did) is that they edit the pages with Microsoft Frontpage so that your nice valid XHTML page in no time gets turned into the tagsoup we all try so hard to avoid. I¹ve been experimenting with something like pMachine ( http://www.pmachine.com/pmachinepro/ ) which, for instance now powers the (bi-lingual) news sections on this site I did recently: http://www.pilatesworks.be Then again, even this is too complicated for some people (and has to be installed on their server). I¹d like to hear from some of you how you go about this and what solutions you use or present to your clients... Thanks in advance, Erwin Heiser. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] MSIE 5.2 Mac problem
Thanks Nick that did the job!
Cheers,
Marco
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On Nov 6, 2004, at 2:32 PM, Nick Gleitzman wrote:
On 6 Nov 2004, at 11:15 PM, Marco van Hylckama Vlieg wrote:
Hello folks,
I have created a new personal site about 1.5 weeks ago. My pages are
valid XHTML and they display fine in MSIE 5.5-6 on PC, Safari, Opera,
Firefox but MSIE 5.2 on MacOS X cuts off the page at the bottom. I
have no idea why this is. Is there anyone who can have a look and
give me some insights?
The site I'm talking about is in my signature.
Best regards,
Marco
--
Marco van Hylckama Vlieg
Senior Internet Developer
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www: http://www.i-marco.nl/
IE5/Mac doesn't like the {height:100%;} you have assigned to div#main.
It appears to be interpreting that rule as '100% of the height of the
viewport when the page first loads'. Remove it and all is well - but
haven't checked how its absence affects all the othet browsers...
HTH
N
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RE: [WSG] Letting clients update their site
Hi Erwin, I'm also a one operation. If you're using Dreamweaver, have you looked into the Advance HTML Editor located here? http://www.dmxzone.com/ShowDetail.asp?NewsId=6180 Or possibly Macromedia's Contribute? Unfortunately I haven't had the opportunity to use either. My clients have had no desire to edit their own sites. Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erwin Heiser Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 9:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] Letting clients update their site Hi all, I¹m a one man operation and mostly do smaller sites. A lot of clients these days are requesting to be able to do their own updates on their sites, but haven¹t a clue when it comes to XHTML or CSS. What I¹d like to prevent (as one client did) is that they edit the pages with Microsoft Frontpage so that your nice valid XHTML page in no time gets turned into the tagsoup we all try so hard to avoid. I¹ve been experimenting with something like pMachine ( http://www.pmachine.com/pmachinepro/ ) which, for instance now powers the (bi-lingual) news sections on this site I did recently: http://www.pilatesworks.be Then again, even this is too complicated for some people (and has to be installed on their server). I¹d like to hear from some of you how you go about this and what solutions you use or present to your clients... Thanks in advance, Erwin Heiser. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.782 / Virus Database: 528 - Release Date: 10/22/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.782 / Virus Database: 528 - Release Date: 10/22/2004 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] iframe flicker-- Gecko
Big John wrote:
David Laakso wrote:
*Since adding the thumbnails in the sidebars *
The iframes flicker jump vertically, in Gecko browsers, when the
thumbnails in the left or right sidebars are hovered.
http://www.dlaakso.com/
David, this is without a doubt the single most complex
tableless layout I have ever been witness to. Wow.
All credit due *Gunlaug Sortun* http://www.gunlaug.no/index.html . He
built the foundation and the house. I decorated the attic bedroom (i
couldn't code myself out of a wet paper bag).
Microsoft gets credit for the duplicate characters that do a number on
the script by http://www.stunicholls.myby.co.uk/index.html
snip
Be that as it may, there appears to be a whole slew
of triggers involved in this bug, but the target of
the bug is rather simple, and is in this line:
div#content div { margin: 0 auto; max-width: 600px;
padding: 0 216px 0 106px; }
snip
Take away either the auto side
margins or the max-width and the ghost does
not appear.
Granted, but doing what you suggest would be an unpardonable sin
(there goes what makes this layout) . There's got to be another way...
*On my end* ( V5.1 build 2600.xpsp_2_rtm.040803-215:SP2) these methods
stop the flicker:
1) Wrapping each of the 4 iframes in a dummy division.
2) Moving h3 from inside #frame to outside #frame. This what I'm
currently using.
3) Deleting the thumbnails in the sidebars. I showed no flicker before
adding that script.
snip
Big John
Best.
David
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Re: [WSG] Letting clients update their site
Hi Erwin, Maybe we can talk. I'm in the process of developing a service that would allow clients to do just that, without affecting the design. One of my main goals right now is a simple user interface, since all the CMS-type offerings I've see are far too complicated for many new users. It's not really ready for the general public, but I'm interested in getting some ideas from other designers about how to integrate it with existing projects. How do you store your pages? Are they plain .html files or are they generated dynamically? I'd like to avoid many of the problems I see in other CMS systems, and make something that's really pleasant for users (and designers) to work with. I've only been offering it to my clients up to now, but if you're interested, maybe there's some way I can help. Cheers! Jason Anderson www.thenewjhp.com On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 15:10:58 +0100, Erwin Heiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I¹m a one man operation and mostly do smaller sites. A lot of clients these days are requesting to be able to do their own updates on their sites, but haven¹t a clue when it comes to XHTML or CSS ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Dupe Char Bug
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: David Laakso wrote: I have no idea what you're talking about, or what you mean. Shame...because that should be the answer. Ok then, let's break it down: in your markup for the sidebars (taking one from sidethumb1 for this), this is what you have a class=gallery slidea href=#spanimg src=images/thumbs/oils/sm_garden.jpg height=100 width=100 alt=Funnels title=Funnels /images/thumbs/sm_shed.jpg width=70 height=70/span/a reformatting it to make the problem more obvious a class=gallery slidea href=# span img src=images/thumbs/oils/sm_garden.jpg height=100 width=100 alt=Funnels title=Funnels / images/thumbs/sm_shed.jpg width=70 height=70 /span /a snip Patrick H. Lauke Patrick, The HTML markup as I have it is essential for the hover effect to work. Either of these changes eliminate the characters and bring back the gif (*at least on my machine*): 1) Enlarging the width of #sidethumb1 #sidethumb2 from 90px to 91px. 2) Changing a.gallery from display:inline to display :block. If the duplicate characters are still rendering on your end, I'd be grateful if you would let me know. http://www.dlaakso.com/ Best, David ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Dupe Char Bug
David Laakso wrote: Either of these changes eliminate the characters and bring back the gif (*at least on my machine*): 1) Enlarging the width of #sidethumb1 #sidethumb2 from 90px to 91px. 2) Changing a.gallery from display:inline to display :block. If the duplicate characters are still rendering on your end, I'd be grateful if you would let me know. http://www.dlaakso.com/ Sorry, but this is the point where I just shake my head and think whatever... You have rubbish in your markup. I'm glad you found ways of hiding it via one of the above methods, but...wouldn't it be better to just remove the rubbish? Patrick H. Lauke _ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Dupe Char Bug
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: David Laakso wrote: Either of these changes eliminate the characters and bring back the gif (*at least on my machine*): 1) Enlarging the width of #sidethumb1 #sidethumb2 from 90px to 91px. 2) Changing a.gallery from display:inline to display :block. If the duplicate characters are still rendering on your end, I'd be grateful if you would let me know. http://www.dlaakso.com/ Sorry, but this is the point where I just shake my head and think whatever... You have rubbish in your markup. I'm glad you found ways of hiding it via one of the above methods, but...wouldn't it be better to just remove the rubbish? Patrick H. Lauke Head bowed, tail between legs, coil of rope in hand, he shuffles backward toward the woods... David http://www.dlaakso.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Overlaping [A]
Hello all,
Simple question
I had set up a pseudo-class like this
a.sub:link { property }
a.subTwo.link { property }...
It was working fine until I decided to define a global anchor pseudo-class
a.link { property } ...
a.sub:link { property }
a.subTwo.link { property }...
Now sub and subTwo have inherited the a class properties even though I had
declared individual properties for each one of them and applied directly to
links, for example:
a href=# class=subTwoLink Goes Here/a
Could some one give me a hint?
Thanks!!
...helmut
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[WSG] Confirming Java Script tag
I do not know if the following is off topic. If it is I am sorry; I do not know who to ask. Java Script is new to me. is the following proper syntax? !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd; html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=en lang=en head titleAbout ASIC)/title link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=../ASIC-css1.css script language=Javascript type=text/javascript src=AccessKeyJavaScript.js/script head body ?PHP Include ASICHeader.php; ? A NAME=AboutH2About Us/H2/A ul liA HREF=#Mission accesskey=m alt=Mission StatementMission Statement/A/li /ul /Body /HTML Angus MacKinnon MacKinnon Crest Saying Latin - Audentes Fortuna Juvat English - Fortune Assists The Daring Web page: http://members.shaw.ca/dabneyadfm Choroideremia Research Foundation Inc. http://www.choroideremia.org ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Confirming Java Script tag
On 7 Nov 2004, at 9:26 AM, The Man With His Guide Dog At The Tent Store wrote: script language=Javascript type=text/javascript src=AccessKeyJavaScript.js/script Yup, that's fine - for HTML4. You might, however, like to look at standardising your tags in lower case - you currently have a mix of upper and lower, and while this won't cause problems with your HTML 4.01 Transitional DOCTYPE, if you ever want to 'upgrade' to XHTML, you'll need to change all your tags to lower case. Save yourself the work later, and do it now... HTH N ___ Omnivision. Websight. http://www.omnivision.com.au/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
CLOSED Re: [WSG] Letting clients update their site
While off-topic for this list, we do have a mailing list for discussing content management/web publishing systems (thanks to Peter Firminger.) http://webstandardsgroup.org/resources/index.cfm?resource_id=131 The members of this list are currently working out the rules but basically anything to do with content management and content management systems is up for discussion. If you want to be on the CMS mailing list please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subscribe cms (no quotes) in the BODY of the message. Please do not continue this thread on WSG, use WSG-CMS or email Erwin off-list. Thank you, Ben WSG Core ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[OFFLIST] Re: [WSG] Letting clients update their site
On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 15:10:58 +0100, Erwin Heiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I¹m a one man operation and mostly do smaller sites. A lot of clients these days are requesting to be able to do their own updates on their sites, but haven¹t a clue when it comes to XHTML or CSS. What I¹d like to prevent (as one client did) is that they edit the pages with Microsoft Frontpage so that your nice valid XHTML page in no time gets turned into the tagsoup we all try so hard to avoid. I¹ve been experimenting with something like pMachine [snip] Hallo Erwin, Ik ga er even van uit dat je nederlands spreekt, dat praat makkelijker. Er zijn twee manieren om dit op te lossen zonder dar geld aan te hangen: * de WYSIWYG methode het probleem hiervan is dat je enkel html/xhtml kan opslaan als je dat later wil in iets ander wil omsetten wordt het moeilijk xstandard lite is gratis en mag voor commerciele doeleinden gebruikt worden http://xstandard.com/ * de andere methode hiermee sla je eigenlijk puur tekst op met hier en daar tekentjes om vetgedrukte dingen of lijsten aan te duiden uiterst eenvoudig om op te slaan in een database ook voor als je een zoeksysteem moet implementeren ga je dit aprecieren het vervelende hieraan is dat je na iedere update een preview moet tonen http://textism.com/tools/textile/ http://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/ bon, het is laat en ik ga gaan slape hopelijk had je hier iets aan -- Kristof ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] oops
That last message wasn't meant to be posted to the list. Sorry. -- Kristof ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Color Schemes
Mike: Try this link for color schemes: http://wellstyled.com/tools/colorscheme2/index-en.html Robin From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 9:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: digest for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not sure if this is off-topic or not. If it is, I apologise now. But I hope it isnt off-topic, so Ill continue . Does anyone have a favourite colour scheme tool? What Im looking for is a tool for design-challenged klutzes like me (well ok its actually FOR me. I admit it!) where I can take a couple of given colours such as in a logo, and create a suggested colour scheme for a site? With alternative contrasting or complementary colours. I can spend as long trying to work out colours as I can on the whole rest of the designing process. I have read plenty of tutorials on the subject, so thats not what Im looking for. The trouble is, every tutorial I read makes it more obvious that Im a ditz when it comes to colour and design. (Something my wife has been telling me for 30 years). I get more and more confused as I read more. What Id like to find is something I saw once years ago and cant find any more Id like to enter say two colours that I get from a logo, and click to get a few colour scheme suggestions that would work together with those colours. From there I could refine the lighter and darker colours I need using my own blender tool on my web site. (If you havent seen that, Im really proud of it. Its the first design tool Ive ever made. Its at http://afpwebworks.com/ColourSchemer/index.cfm - you put in the starting colour, and the finishing colour, and the number of steps you want up to 20 and itll give you the values of the 20 steps from one colour to the other, with blocks and text in those colours. ) Anyway, can anyone help me out with a colour scheme design tool please? Cheers Mike Kear AFP Webworks Windsor, NSW, Australia http://afpwebworks.com .com, .net, .org etc domains start at A$20/year ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Melbourne Meeting Nov 15: XForms plus Body Class Switcheroo
Melbourne members Our second last meeting for this year will be on Monday November 15. See details below and note the new venue (Medibank Building, 700 Collins St, 16th floor. This venue actually has a projector...I feel better now!). As well as the set agenda we'll also be discussing our plans for our final meeting for the year, hopefully a christmas break up sort of thing, maybe over a cheap meal. The working plan is a debate (a la WE04 Smackdown) of sorts. Cameron Adams has been charged with thinking up a few topics...so this could be interesting. As always RSVP to [EMAIL PROTECTED] cheers dez - Date: Monday 15 November, 2004 Meeting time: 6:30pm - Informal start/Networking 7:00pm - Official start Agenda: Jason Harrop, Chief Technology Officer at Speedlegal discusses XForms Lachlan Hardy, WSG member, presents our first WSG Quick Tutorial entitled The Body Class Switcheroo Where do we meet? Note: venue change for this meeting Medibank Building 700 Collins St, on the other side of the Collins St extension, past Spencer St Station Come to reception on the 16th floor RSVP to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
