RE: [WSG] firefox treatment of wrapper overflow height
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kevin mcmonagle Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 11:05 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] firefox treatment of wrapper overflow height Thank you david, a tip from that article has me sorted. I put a div at the bottom of the rapper content like this: div class=clear/div .clear{clear:both} nice trick just kind of forces, but I still dont understand why the outer wrapper would'nt scale automatically with three columns in an inner wrapper with no heights set anywhere /unless /the outerwrapper was floated left or right itself.. Hi Kevin, This may help: http://tjkdesign.com/articles/clearing-floats_and_block-formatting_context.asp -- Regards, Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Semantic markup of a byline date/time
Did you manage to find a solution to this? Hi Ben, I ended up using this structure: div class=articleDetails cfix h5Nam vestibulum leo id condimentum/h5 citeDominus 23, 2008 - 10:36AM/cite pPage 1 of 3 a class=single href=#Single page view/a/p p class=commentsa href=#commentsComments span45/span/a/p /div This is going to be a snippet which can be skinned, hence I wrapped it into a div to allow for backgrounds. The H5 gives the byline the weight it needs semantically over other content. I found cite to be appropriate for the time stamp as it's a reference to when the article was published (but I clearly see room for discussion on this). For the other information I just used ordinary paragraphs with appropriate classes to style them. Cheers, Jens The information contained in this e-mail message and any accompanying files is or may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, dissemination, reliance, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail or any attached files is unauthorised. This e-mail is subject to copyright. No part of it should be reproduced, adapted or communicated without the written consent of the copyright owner. If you have received this e-mail in error please advise the sender immediately by return e-mail or telephone and delete all copies. Fairfax does not guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained in this e-mail or attached files. Internet communications are not secure, therefore Fairfax does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message or attached files. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Semantic markup of a byline date/time
I may be wrong, but your use of cite looks the wrong way around - surely a citation should point at a document? Mike From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jens-Uwe Korff Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 7:52 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Semantic markup of a byline date/time Did you manage to find a solution to this? Hi Ben, I ended up using this structure: div class=articleDetails cfix h5Nam vestibulum leo id condimentum/h5 citeDominus 23, 2008 - 10:36AM/cite pPage 1 of 3 a class=single href=#Single page view/a/p p class=commentsa href=#commentsComments span45/span/a/p /div *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] firefox treatment of wrapper overflow height
a little more valid / semantic div.clearer {clear: both; line-height: 0; height: 0;} div class=clearernbsp;/div On 17/07/2008, at 4:04 AM, kevin mcmonagle wrote: Thank you david, a tip from that article has me sorted. I put a div at the bottom of the rapper content like this: div class=clear/div .clear{clear:both} nice trick just kind of forces, but I still dont understand why the outer wrapper would'nt scale automatically with three columns in an inner wrapper with no heights set anywhere /unless / the outerwrapper was floated left or right itself.. -best kevin David Hucklesby wrote: On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:08:47 +0100, kevin mcmonagle wrote: hi, I have a wrapper in that wont scale to its contained content/divs but there are no heights set in the divs that i can see. Is there something else that can cause this? - Yes. If the content has A.P. blocks or floats that are not contained then the containing DIV might not expand. If the problem is due to floats, there are several methods available for containing them here: http://www.digital-web.com/articles/web_design_101_floats/ Cordially, David *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] line-height compatibility troubles
Am I correct to notice that there is rather a bit of difference between browsers in the spacing between the lines of text? My problem: I have a box 359 x 359 pixels in which I need to put a set amount of text. The text wraps exactly the same in all browsers, only the line height is different between some of them. The text fits in Internet Explorer 6 and 7 and Opera 9.5 on PC, Firefox 2 and Safari on Mac, but in Firefox 2 and Internet Explorer 8 on PC it doesn't fit and is subsequently cut off. I tried applying line-height: 12px; to the div that contains the text, that effected the spacing between the lines but that still didn't make it exactly the same in all browsers, there was still variation between them. The page is XHTML 1.0 Strict (and CSS 2.1) valid, so how is it possible that some browsers show more line space, shouldn't it be all the same? Your advice please. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] ie six download?
I bought got an old laptop for testing sites-it has ie 5.5 on it now, Anybody know where i can download an upgrade to ie6 for windows 2000 proffessional? best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] line-height compatibility troubles
This should be a good read about line heights in different browsers - http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/05/06/line-height-abnormal/ :) On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Bas V [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I correct to notice that there is rather a bit of difference between browsers in the spacing between the lines of text? My problem: I have a box 359 x 359 pixels in which I need to put a set amount of text. The text wraps exactly the same in all browsers, only the line height is different between some of them. The text fits in Internet Explorer 6 and 7 and Opera 9.5 on PC, Firefox 2 and Safari on Mac, but in Firefox 2 and Internet Explorer 8 on PC it doesn't fit and is subsequently cut off. I tried applying line-height: 12px; to the div that contains the text, that effected the spacing between the lines but that still didn't make it exactly the same in all browsers, there was still variation between them. The page is XHTML 1.0 Strict (and CSS 2.1) valid, so how is it possible that some browsers show more line space, shouldn't it be all the same? Your advice please. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] ie six download?
For testing purposes you can install http://tredosoft.com/Multiple_IE, it also installs IE 6. Tijmen On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:35 AM, kevin mcmonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bought got an old laptop for testing sites-it has ie 5.5 on it now, Anybody know where i can download an upgrade to ie6 for windows 2000 proffessional? best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] firefox treatment of wrapper overflow height
Andrew Newman wrote: a little more valid / semantic div.clearer {clear: both; line-height: 0; height: 0;} div class=clearernbsp;/div On 17/07/2008, at 4:04 AM, kevin mcmonagle wrote: now i can validate. thank you -kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] ie six download?
http://oldversion.com/program.php?n=msie --- you can download any version you like from there... Hope it helps. David Fuller Head Developer Magick Web Web:http://www.magick.com.au Tel: 0434 728 267 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kevin mcmonagle Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 7:36 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] ie six download? I bought got an old laptop for testing sites-it has ie 5.5 on it now, Anybody know where i can download an upgrade to ie6 for windows 2000 proffessional? best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.0/1556 - Release Date: 7/16/2008 4:56 PM *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Semantic markup of a byline date/time
On 17 Jul 2008, at 10:06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I may be wrong, but your use of cite looks the wrong way around - surely a citation should point at a document? If it's a cite _attribute_, then yes, it should point at a document. But a cite element, as I understand it, marks up a piece of attribution text, and so can simply be the name of a person, or whatever. Eg. blockquote pSome article text blah blah blah/p pwritten by citeHarold Lloyd/cite/p /blockquote -- Rick Lecoat www.sharkattack.co.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Centered List
That worked a treat! Thank you very much! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tyrone Joseph Sent: 15 July 2008 16:05 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Centered List Hi David, Thank You for your reply. I haven't managed to implement your solution yet as I have been so busy, but I will let you know how it goes when I do! Tyrone -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Owens Sent: 14 July 2008 17:48 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Centered List 2008/7/14 Tyrone Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks for your reply but this doesn't solve my problem as the size list will be controlled by a CMS. This means that there may be times when there are 7 options and there may be times when are 3 options. I somehow need to center the li elements without affecting other textual content within the containing div. I am trying by best to keep the HTML clean and I don't want to add any unnecessary divs within the main div. Hi Tyrone, I've been playing around for this, and have a pretty good looking solution for you. ul lia href=#one/a/li li two a href=#sold out/a /li lia href=#three/a/li /ul ul { margin: 0; text-align: center; } li { display: inline-block; border: 1px solid black; padding: 5px; margin: 5px; vertical-align: top; } a { display: block; } Plus you will need to send this to IE, preferably using conditional comments: li { zoom: 1; display: inline; } Works in FF, IE 5.5, 6 and 7, Opera 9.5 and Safari 3 on PC. I haven't looked at anything on a Mac yet. Regards David http://fineartdavid.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] ie six download?
Old apps has all the old versions http://www.oldapps.com/internet_explorer.htm Sajan Franco 2008/7/17 David Fuller - magickweb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://oldversion.com/program.php?n=msie --- you can download any version you like from there... Hope it helps. David Fuller Head Developer Magick Web Web:http://www.magick.com.au Tel: 0434 728 267 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kevin mcmonagle Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 7:36 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] ie six download? I bought got an old laptop for testing sites-it has ie 5.5 on it now, Anybody know where i can download an upgrade to ie6 for windows 2000 proffessional? best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.0/1556 - Release Date: 7/16/2008 4:56 PM *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] ie six download?
I already said that Sajan. lol David Fuller Head Developer Magick Web Web:http://www.magick.com.au Tel: 0434 728 267 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sajan Franco Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:38 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] ie six download? Old apps has all the old versions http://www.oldapps.com/internet_explorer.htm Sajan Franco 2008/7/17 David Fuller - magickweb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://oldversion.com/program.php?n=msie --- you can download any version you like from there... Hope it helps. David Fuller Head Developer Magick Web Web:http://www.magick.com.au Tel: 0434 728 267 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kevin mcmonagle Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 7:36 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] ie six download? I bought got an old laptop for testing sites-it has ie 5.5 on it now, Anybody know where i can download an upgrade to ie6 for windows 2000 proffessional? best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.0/1556 - Release Date: 7/16/2008 4:56 PM *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***image001.jpg
[WSG] Pop-Ups (BOM)
What's your views on Pop-Ups? When I speak in terms of Pop-Ups I am referring to the alert type Pop-Ups that are a part of the Browser Object Model and NOT window Pop-Ups. The ones that are considered annoying! I personally do not think they are annoying when used in the right way. Google Mail uses them correctly. When you are writing an email and you decide to close the tab or move to another webpage it will alert you and ask you if you want to abandon the email you have spent 15 minutes writing and forgot to save as a draft. In the same way MS Word would ask you if you want to save an unsaved project. A good thing in my books. They are probably only best used in Ajax applications in certain situations when a users attention is needed. We have no problems using them in desktop applications so why not use them in web applications (I am talking about applications not web pages). I am only writing this because I see developers label Pop-Ups as annoying. Ganted, when used in the wrong way they are annoying, but you abuse anything (including tables) and it becomes annoying/wrong. To summarize, what's your views on Pop-Ups *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Pop-Ups (BOM)
Popup messages can be VERY useful. These days with floating divs etc they are not always necessary, however I do agree that they have a definite place. Personally I use them in my web applications. If you look at dreamweaver's form validation scripts, they also use that style of popup. I personally think that when used properly they are great, otherwise just an annoyance and can potentially crash a browser. David Fuller Developer magickWEB Web: http://www.magick.com.au http://www.magick.com.au Tel: 0434 728 267 Email:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Jeffery Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:21 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Pop-Ups (BOM) What's your views on Pop-Ups? When I speak in terms of Pop-Ups I am referring to the alert type Pop-Ups that are a part of the Browser Object Model and NOT window Pop-Ups. The ones that are considered annoying! I personally do not think they are annoying when used in the right way. Google Mail uses them correctly. When you are writing an email and you decide to close the tab or move to another webpage it will alert you and ask you if you want to abandon the email you have spent 15 minutes writing and forgot to save as a draft. In the same way MS Word would ask you if you want to save an unsaved project. A good thing in my books. They are probably only best used in Ajax applications in certain situations when a users attention is needed. We have no problems using them in desktop applications so why not use them in web applications (I am talking about applications not web pages). I am only writing this because I see developers label Pop-Ups as annoying. Ganted, when used in the wrong way they are annoying, but you abuse anything (including tables) and it becomes annoying/wrong. To summarize, what's your views on Pop-Ups *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***image001.jpg
Re: [WSG] Pop-Ups (BOM)
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 6:30 AM, David Fuller - magickweb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Popup messages can be VERY useful… These days with floating divs etc they are not always necessary, however I do agree that they have a definite place. I think they can be more useful when a small sound is played. The other option is an error message that appears in the document flow. -- -- Christian Montoya christianmontoya.net *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] firefox treatment of wrapper overflow height
Andrew Newman wrote re: using a DIV to enclose floats: a little more valid / semantic div.clearer {clear: both; line-height: 0; height: 0;} div class=clearernbsp;/div Of course, that will create an extra vertical space in the layout. If that space is unwanted, you could alternatively use this: div class=clearer!-- --/div The empty comment prevents this space. Of course, there are several other ways to enclose floats that do not require that extra DIV. Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] ie six download?
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:35:32 +0100, kevin mcmonagle wrote: I bought got an old laptop for testing sites-it has ie 5.5 on it now, Anybody know where i can download an upgrade to ie6 for windows 2000 proffessional? Assuming you have a legit version of Win 2000, you can just run a regular Windows update to get it. FWIW - I did this a week ago to add IE6 to VMware Fusion on my MacBook. Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] ie six download?
Thanks, But I was afraid updating that way might put version 7 on, I can use net renderer to give me ie 7 previews. The problem is that the renderers, and ies for mac, dont render png transparency hacks very well... Anyway sorted it all out with the link provided on previous post-very handy thanks for the links. -best kevin David Hucklesby wrote: On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:35:32 +0100, kevin mcmonagle wrote: I bought got an old laptop for testing sites-it has ie 5.5 on it now, Anybody know where i can download an upgrade to ie6 for windows 2000 proffessional? Assuming you have a legit version of Win 2000, you can just run a regular Windows update to get it. FWIW - I did this a week ago to add IE6 to VMware Fusion on my MacBook. Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] ie six download?
oopz sorry i did not read that :) Sajan 2008/7/17 David Fuller - magickweb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I already said that Sajan. lol David Fuller Head Developer Magick Web Web:http://www.magick.com.au Tel: 0434 728 267 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Sajan Franco *Sent:* Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:38 PM *To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org *Subject:* Re: [WSG] ie six download? Old apps has all the old versions http://www.oldapps.com/internet_explorer.htm Sajan Franco 2008/7/17 David Fuller - magickweb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://oldversion.com/program.php?n=msie --- you can download any version you like from there... Hope it helps. David Fuller Head Developer Magick Web Web:http://www.magick.com.au Tel: 0434 728 267 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kevin mcmonagle Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 7:36 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] ie six download? I bought got an old laptop for testing sites-it has ie 5.5 on it now, Anybody know where i can download an upgrade to ie6 for windows 2000 proffessional? best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.0/1556 - Release Date: 7/16/2008 4:56 PM *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***image001.jpg
RE: [WSG] Pop-Ups (BOM)
what's your views on Pop-Ups My spontaneous answer is that I would expect pop-ups to alert me to something that needs immediate attention, as you say when I forgot to save my email draft. If I'm using web apps the correct way I don't expect any pop-ups since web apps can manage all other feedback using AJAX. For example, when filling out a form incorrectly, I expect friendly messages appearing in the page, not in a pop-up. Cheers, Jens The information contained in this e-mail message and any accompanying files is or may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, dissemination, reliance, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail or any attached files is unauthorised. This e-mail is subject to copyright. No part of it should be reproduced, adapted or communicated without the written consent of the copyright owner. If you have received this e-mail in error please advise the sender immediately by return e-mail or telephone and delete all copies. Fairfax does not guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained in this e-mail or attached files. Internet communications are not secure, therefore Fairfax does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message or attached files. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Semantic markup of a byline date/time
I may be wrong, but your use of cite looks the wrong way around - surely a citation should point at a document? If it's a cite _attribute_, then yes, it should point at a document. But a cite element, as I understand it, marks up a piece of attribution text, and so can simply be the name of a person, or whatever. Eg. blockquote pSome article text blah blah blah/p pwritten by citeHarold Lloyd/cite/p /blockquote Yes, I'm using cite to reference the date. After a bit of search I found this at [1]: cite class=ref-book id=ref-edwards-civil_war_guns-1978 title=Edwards, Civil War Guns span class=author Edwards. William B./span span class=title Civil War Guns/span. span class=publisher Castle Books/span. span class=publication-date 1978/span. /cite It's clearly overkill for what I'm doing but I can understand why the author did it this way. Cheers, Jens [1] http://bytes.com/forum/thread97106.html The information contained in this e-mail message and any accompanying files is or may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, dissemination, reliance, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail or any attached files is unauthorised. This e-mail is subject to copyright. No part of it should be reproduced, adapted or communicated without the written consent of the copyright owner. If you have received this e-mail in error please advise the sender immediately by return e-mail or telephone and delete all copies. Fairfax does not guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained in this e-mail or attached files. Internet communications are not secure, therefore Fairfax does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message or attached files. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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