Re: [WSG] Checking CSS3 Support [hr / or CSS3 Border Background]
http://www.modernizr.com/ From: Bushidodeep field.ni...@gmail.com Does a JS/DOM script exist for checking CSS3 support across user-agents? *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] hi
sorry about this dudes - my email was hacked :( From: rossbruniges10 rossbrunige...@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Monday, 20 July, 2009 17:00:55 Subject: [WSG] hi http://rapidshare.com/files/257947769/install.exe?0,6808194 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Span within a li
.item361 span Just the span within the li class item361. Is it possible? Note... only the 'item361'; not item111 or item359, nor 'current'. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] The mystery gap issue
#imagery has a height of 566px set in your CSS and your image container (#master0) has a height of 564px set in CSS (i'm guessing via JS) 2px gap problem found From: Kristine Cummins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Tuesday, 11 November, 2008 10:01:39 Subject: [WSG] The mystery gap issue Please check www.richardvonsaal.com/test/index.html The gap is about 2 pixels high directly beneath the big image, and on top of the footer div. Stylesheet www.richardvonsaal.com/test/styles.html I’m tearing hair at this point. Any ideas are greatly appreciated. Another question: why is it that the .png file shows a white background in older versions of IE? Is it because it hadn’t adapted to this newer file type? Should I not use the .png file type yet? Thanks in advance, Kristine *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Mark-up for physical/postal addresses
would have a look at - http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard From: Henrik Madsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Tuesday, 28 October, 2008 8:23:07 Subject: [WSG] Mark-up for physical/postal addresses Can anyone guide me re. best practice for marking-up physical addresses that would appear like this: 123 Acacia Avenue Suburb State Postal Code Tel 888 9581 4077 Fax 888 9581 2835 Or is it acceptable to keep all in p and use /br's TIA Henrik *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Mark-up for physical/postal addresses
I don't think David said anything against microformats. The problems were with the use of the address element (which should only be used if it contains the contact details of the person who created a page) and the use of a definition list as an address for someone is not a definition of the person. I am not where I live that's for sure : From: Johan Douma [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Tuesday, 28 October, 2008 11:02:11 Subject: Re: [WSG] Mark-up for physical/postal addresses Well, what's wrong with microformats? It's really the way to go, and search engines like yahoo, technorati already use these formats. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] :: CSS Code Formatting ::
Ultimately you want to use one version during your development process (to ensure readability between your development team) but then have a smaller/compacted version to be used once you deploy to the live server (and at which point it's not the end of the world if your CSS is difficult to read) A best of both worlds approach ;- - Original Message From: Amrinder [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WebStandards Discussion Lish wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Tuesday, 6 May, 2008 2:49:24 PM Subject: [WSG] :: CSS Code Formatting :: Which approach is better? Should we go for code readability as described by Smashing Magazine or follow what Andy said. __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] selectutorial
might be worth having a read of http://snook.ca/archives/html_and_css/no_css_reset/ which ironically was posted just today!!! I'm not sure of the real performance hit of canceling margins/paddings but it's more of a practical thing to consider if you are striving to keep the visual user experience consistent across browsers. - Original Message From: Rob Kirton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, 17 April, 2008 4:15:08 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] selectutorial Kevin First stripping out margins padding from nearly everything is quite common practice. Look up reset style sheets from YUI or Eric Meyers example (also included with blue print framework). It would be good for anybody new to using CSS to immediately get to grips with an initial CSS reset to allow for cross bowser support Regards - Rob Raising web standards : http://ele.vation.co.uk Linking in with others: http://linkedin.com/in/robkirton On 17/04/2008, kevin mcmonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, My friend wants to learn about css so i told him to do the selectutorial on the maxdesign site. It says to reset the margins in the body then use ems for padding. I was reading somewhere that cancelling out the margins in the body tells the browsers to go through all the tags and cancel out the margins and that it actually adds to download time. I dont know if thats realistic or not but ive been using margins for spacing between divs for a long time. Whats the final word on resetting and using margins to avoid cross browsers problems? best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** ___ Yahoo! For Good helps you make a difference http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Acronym element
the abbr and acronym elements have extra value in the fact that a screen reader will say out each letter opposed to trying to pronounce the word. so I would recommend if you have control over the content that use use them every time you need (the title doesn't have to be used each time though) - Original Message From: John Faulds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Wednesday, 9 January, 2008 4:54:22 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] Acronym element e.g. Web Standards Group (WSG) the WSG wouldn't benefit from the acronym element. No, I believe you only then need to use the acronym or abbr tag for the first instance of it following where it appears in brackets on any one page (ie at the start of a new page, you'd expand the acronym/abbreviation again). -- Regards John --- Tyssen Design www.tyssendesign.com.au Ph: (07) 3300 3303 Mb: 0405 678 590 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail - a smarter inbox http://uk.mail.yahoo.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript
Where true! As a general rule of thumb if you are looking for online tutorials and examples that are teaching good modern JavaScript go find another one if it tells you to use things like: document.write inline event handlers (like onclick) browser sniffing This is quite a simple list but a good one to get started with! Ross Bruniges - Original Message From: Nick Fitzsimons [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, 15 November, 2007 10:34:09 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript On 14 Nov 2007, at 22:56, Lars Michael Sørensen wrote: I recommend http://www.tizag.com/javascriptT/ - they have a lot of other tutorials as well. Very easy to follow, all the way through. I would recommend avoiding that tutorial - it teaches some techniques which should never be used by anybody with an interest in making usable and accessible sites. Generally speaking it will get you to the level we were at when Netscape Navigator 3 was the target browser, which was over ten years ago. There are much better techniques available for modern scripting. I would recommend (in no particular order - look through them in a shop and pick an author whose style you like): DOM Scripting by Jeremy Keith, ppk on JavaScript by Peter-Paul Koch, David Flanagan's JavaScript: The Definitive Guide and Chris Heilmann's Beginning JavaScript with DOM Scripting and Ajax. Also, Chris H has an online course at http://onlinetools.org/ articles/unobtrusivejavascript/ which will help you unlearn the bad things learnt from the tiza.com tutorial ;-). Regards, Nick. -- Nick Fitzsimons Member, WaSP DOM Scripting TF http://webstandards.org/action/dstf/ http://www.nickfitz.co.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Skip nav links, tab through
I do think that the latest version of Firefox (v 2.0.0.9) may have a problem with tabbing as I've not been able to tab through stuff either since upgrading... this might be a bug; it may just be me being stupid but it's certainly a bit of a pain in the arse! - Original Message From: Steve Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, 15 November, 2007 3:13:09 PM Subject: RE: [WSG] Skip nav links, tab through There's no reason why you shouldn't be able to tab through the links in Firefox. Links are not on the tab sequence in Safari by default, but you can turn that on in the Preferences. I have no idea if users actually do in practice. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Collins Sent: 15 November 2007 14:45 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Skip nav links, tab through Hi all, I've added a hidden skip navigation link to my site, that I want to show up when you tab through each page. I'm using the method described on the webaim site: http://www.webaim.org/techniques/skipnav/#focus Problem is, I realised that you can't actually tab through the links on a page using Firefox or Safari. I am guessing this has to do with Tabbed Browsing shortcuts?! Does anyone know a better way of doing this, so when someone tabs through your site they get the Skip Navigation link displayed? Cheers *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] London Meetup for people interested in an informal discussion around web standards
Heya guys, Just to confirm that Pub Standards is not the only web standards meet-ups and going the list will only get you messages about pub standards events - nothing else. The mailer is also specifically for Beer related talk - though from time to time web standards is mentioned If you are looking for speakers and presentations then pub standards is not for you - it is really all about the beer and just a coincidence that everyone who attends are web devs ; For general meet-ups with presentations and such (like Geek Dinners or things similar) then it really is best to just keep a close eye on upcoming.yahoo.com for things as they pop up from time to time - you will also get a good idea of who to follow so that you can see when things are occuring as they say they are attending or watching. By all means please come to pub standards, its a hell of a lot of fun but don't expect to learn too much : - Original Message From: Nick Fitzsimons [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, 11 October, 2007 11:20:56 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] London Meetup for people interested in an informal discussion around web standards On 11 Oct 2007, at 10:58, Joseph Ortenzi wrote: Thanks Karl, but the pubstandards group appears to have withered away and died, unfortunately. at least the UK one. Erm... http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/290703/ Next pubstandards UK meetup is next Thursday :-) HTH, Nick. -- Nick Fitzsimons http://www.nickfitz.co.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** ___ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] magazine
not sure what the global distribution is like but .Net is always a good one for us in the UK Rafael Mumme wrote: I'm looking for a good offline (printed version) magazine to stay tune with the latest news about Web 2.0, Javascript, Ajax, CSS and Web Standarts. Do you have any ideas? *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Select that goes to a new URL
you should use $_POST['New_URL'] - thats going to be the value of the select box. Looking at your code there is nothing called ID on there! and also - PHP is really off topic of this list, not sure of any PHP mailers but the sitepoint forums always get me out of bother! - Original Message From: Paul Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Tuesday, 10 July, 2007 3:57:58 PM Subject: [WSG] Select that goes to a new URL Hi all, This should be pretty basic stuff, but coding the forms can be a bit above me sometimes :) I've hunted around and can't seem to find the answer, so here goes... I've got a select box, with a bunch of options that need to go to another page in the website when the go button is clicked. I'm running this on my localhost, so not sure if the CGI scripts are all there, I am running PHP though, so it would be ideal to set it up that way. Here is my code, would appreciate any links/advice. Cheers form action=post action=http://localhost/includes/redirect.php;; name=selectCourse id=selectCourseForm fieldset select name=New_URL optionSelect a course/option option value=http://localhost/courses/artsAndMedia.php;Arts amp; Media/option option value=http://localhost/courses/businessAndPublicServices.php;Business amp; Public Services/option option value=http://localhost/courses/careTravelAndTourism.php;Care Travel amp; Tourism/option optionESOL amp; Languages/option optionHair, Beauty amp; Sport/option optionHumanities amp; English/option optionICT amp; Maths/option optionPerforming Arts amp; Media/option optionSkills for life/option optionScience/option /select input name=submit type=submit id=goButton_replace value=Go/ /fieldset /form I've tried it with this redirect PHP script, but doesn't seem to work: ?php header(Location: . $_POST['id']); ? *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** ___ What kind of emailer are you? Find out today - get a free analysis of your email personality. Take the quiz at the Yahoo! Mail Championship. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Accessibility and fly out menus
I'm yet to see a JavaScript-free menu that: * Can be used without a pointing device (e.g. by keyboard or breath switch users) * Doesn't vanish the moment that the mouse drifts outside the menu (thus requiring fine motor control that users with, for instance, arthritis are unlikely to have) the whole point is that there shouldn't be a javaScript-free menu that provides this functionality!! CSS is merely a format for styling documents and should not be used for functionality like that! the behavior mentioned above is something that is included in HTML, and, if you want things to look better the required functionality SHOULD be included with JavaScript. So in summary - get those JavaScript books out ; ___ Yahoo! Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your free account today http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/mail/winter07.html *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Screen resolution issue
I'm guessing you are using a liquid layout yeah?? If so then I'd look into implemeting some sort of maxWidth on your page so that things don't spread out so far on high resolution displays. Surprising enough there are problems doing this in IE due to its lack of proper support for the maxWidth property but there are ways around this - check out google and there is loads of good stuff out there. If you want a quick fix you could also consider setting a fixed width for your site, its less elastic but it would be quick. - Original Message From: Lyn Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Friday, 1 June, 2007 10:03:02 AM Subject: [WSG] Screen resolution issue I design sites in 1024-768 and make sure they look good at 800x600x. Have just done a design for a client who is using a screen resolution of 1280x1024 and the site looks awful - it stops halfway down the page and everything looks so spread out. I must say I have never had this problem before and not sure how to resolve it. The client is not happy so I have to fix this quickly. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks. Lyn Lyn Patterson www.westernwebdesign.com.au *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** ___ Yahoo! Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your free account today http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/mail/winter07.html *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Two CSS Problems
In response to question 1 this is something that can't really be fixed in IE6/7 due to how they measure the bounding box of a link. The best description I could find for this is at http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/wrappinglinkbg.html Ways I have got around this problem is buy using an image (which can also be marked up with alt text to aid accessibility ;) instead of a background; this may be a solution. Sorry for the bad news : (maybe someone has a better solution though...) Ross Bruniges (www.thecssdiv.co.uk) - Original Message From: Sarah Peeke (XERT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WSG wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Wednesday, 28 March, 2007 7:57:58 AM Subject: [WSG] Two CSS Problems Hi all, Can anyone please help with the following problems (in WIN IE6 7): 1. How to get a link background image (used as an underline) to continue over two or more lines? Example http://geofeat.com/ - RHS Latest News links 2. Why the footer at the bottom of this page jumps when hovering over the *Manage Listing* link (just above the back to *TOP* link), and how to fix this? Example http://geofeat.com/directory/house_home/bed_bath_table/ sheets_pillow_cases/40613/ Many thanks Sarah -- XERT Communications email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobile: 0438 017 416 http://www.xert.com.au/ web development : digital imaging : dvd production *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** ___ Inbox full of unwanted email? Get leading protection and 1GB storage with All New Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
