Re: [WSG] My Turn for a Site Critique

2005-11-29 Thread Artemis

Hi Samuel :)
I don't think I have enough qualifications to really critique your site 
in the manner that you probably want, but I am pretty good with graphics 
and colors. I think the site is beautiful, and I love the bright 
cheerful colors and the graphic that you've chosen! You've done an 
excellent job at making the visitor feel relaxed and invited.


Artemis

 Original Message 
From: Samuel Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] My Turn for a Site Critique
Date: 11/28/2005 15:18


Ok, it's my turn for a site critique:

http://www.seasonstravel.com.au/

What I'm worried about:

 - A new stylesheet loads depending on what season your computer clock 
is currently in, it should also load a default stylesheet if you don't 
have javascript enabled, is their any browsers that might have a 
problem with this?


 - I've only checked the site in Firefox and IE on the PC. If anybody 
has a mac I'd love for ya to take a quick look at it and let me know 
if anything is wrong with it.


Samuel
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RE: [WSG] My Turn for a Site Critique

2005-11-28 Thread Stephen Stagg
For what it's worth, I've written a script linked to the hostip.info
database and a local dataset of country latitudes to guess the current
season.  It's very rough and ready and you can check it out here:
http://www.minimology.co.uk/geol.php
It was quite an interesting little project actually and I think I'll
incorporate it into my website as a bit of random eye-candy.

If you want the source then I can post it here or e-mail it to you.

Stephen.

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Re: [WSG] My Turn for a Site Critique

2005-11-28 Thread Samuel Richardson

It is, it should currently be showing summer..


Scott Swabey - Lafinboy Productions wrote:


I could be missing the whole point completely here, but if you are showing
information on travel to Australia, and all things related, then shouldn't
the season in Australia be reflected on the site? People know what season it
is and what the weather is like where they are - it's where they're going
they want to know about.

Regards

Scott Swabey
Lafinboy Productions
www.lafinboy.com

 


Samuel Richardson wrote

If you read the month of december as being summer its true for the 
southern hemisphere but not the northen, to do it properly you would 
have to detect the hemisphere then choose to load either summer or 
winter based on where the user is.
   



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Re: [WSG] My Turn for a Site Critique

2005-11-28 Thread Christian Montoya
On 11/28/05, Samuel Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm not too bothered about it, hopefully it'll encourage someone living
> in England to by a trip to Australia through the site once they see how
> nice the summer looks.. :D
>

Considering how cold it is here, seeing that summer yellow and the
beach and bikini makes me want to buy a ticket. Nice job.

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RE: [WSG] My Turn for a Site Critique

2005-11-28 Thread Scott Swabey - Lafinboy Productions
I could be missing the whole point completely here, but if you are showing
information on travel to Australia, and all things related, then shouldn't
the season in Australia be reflected on the site? People know what season it
is and what the weather is like where they are - it's where they're going
they want to know about.

Regards

Scott Swabey
Lafinboy Productions
www.lafinboy.com

> Samuel Richardson wrote
> 
> If you read the month of december as being summer its true for the 
> southern hemisphere but not the northen, to do it properly you would 
> have to detect the hemisphere then choose to load either summer or 
> winter based on where the user is.

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Re: [WSG] My Turn for a Site Critique

2005-11-28 Thread Samuel Richardson
I'm not too bothered about it, hopefully it'll encourage someone living 
in England to by a trip to Australia through the site once they see how 
nice the summer looks.. :D


Stephen Stagg wrote:


Sorry didn't read the thread properly.

If you did do the season check in a PHP script, the hostip.info project may
be able to help.  A query such as:

http://api.hostip.info/country.php?ip=.bbb.ccc.ddd

will give you a country code which could then be used to guess the season.

Stephen

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Sent: 29 November 2005 00:47
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Subject: RE: [WSG] My Turn for a Site Critique

Looking at your javascript, I don't understand your reasons for using
javascript.  You are determining the season from the Month and Day.  This is
constant across the globe (give or take) at any specific time.  Therefore
can't you use PHP or some other server script tool or even just a manual
replacing of the stylesheet periodically to reflect the current season?  I
don't know whether JS can detect local region settings?

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RE: [WSG] My Turn for a Site Critique

2005-11-28 Thread Stephen Stagg
Sorry didn't read the thread properly.

If you did do the season check in a PHP script, the hostip.info project may
be able to help.  A query such as:

http://api.hostip.info/country.php?ip=.bbb.ccc.ddd

will give you a country code which could then be used to guess the season.

Stephen

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On Behalf Of Stephen Stagg
Sent: 29 November 2005 00:47
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Subject: RE: [WSG] My Turn for a Site Critique

Looking at your javascript, I don't understand your reasons for using
javascript.  You are determining the season from the Month and Day.  This is
constant across the globe (give or take) at any specific time.  Therefore
can't you use PHP or some other server script tool or even just a manual
replacing of the stylesheet periodically to reflect the current season?  I
don't know whether JS can detect local region settings?

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Re: [WSG] My Turn for a Site Critique

2005-11-28 Thread Samuel Richardson
If you read the month of december as being summer its true for the 
southern hemisphere but not the northen, to do it properly you would 
have to detect the hemisphere then choose to load either summer or 
winter based on where the user is.


I've just switched it over to PHP based system now, it still won't help 
but it fixes the "flash" that was happening when the page loads.


Samuel

Stephen Stagg wrote:


Looking at your javascript, I don't understand your reasons for using
javascript.  You are determining the season from the Month and Day.  This is
constant across the globe (give or take) at any specific time.  Therefore
can't you use PHP or some other server script tool or even just a manual
replacing of the stylesheet periodically to reflect the current season?  I
don't know whether JS can detect local region settings?



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Samuel Richardson
Sent: 29 November 2005 00:19
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] My Turn for a Site Critique

The problem is, it's always going to be a different season for everyone, 
it doesn't really matter if its set to the server time or not. The only 
way to get around it would be to do an IP detect to check what 
hemisphere the user is in. Maybe in the future..


Thanks for the link about the stylesheet switch, I guess doing it in PHP 
would also fix it too, I wouldn't have to worry about the user the 
having Javascript enabled.


Samuel


Christian Montoya wrote:

 


On 11/28/05, Samuel Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


   


Ok, it's my turn for a site critique:

http://www.seasonstravel.com.au/

What I'm worried about:

- A new stylesheet loads depending on what season your computer clock
is currently in, it should also load a default stylesheet if you don't
have javascript enabled, is their any browsers that might have a problem
with this?
  

 


A problem is see is there is a flash before the new stylesheet is
loaded. The page was orange/red and then the javascript happened and
it was green. There are ways to have Javascript work before the page
loads, one example used for another stylesheet modifier is here:
http://www.bobbyvandersluis.com/articles/unobtrusiveshowhide.php
Read through it and see if the technique used there could prevent that
   


flash.
 


Or maybe you could do the stylesheet based on the server time and not
my computer's time... that would also solve the problem... I mean,
it's snowing here... is the page supposed to be green? Or is it
because the weather is nice over there?

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RE: [WSG] My Turn for a Site Critique

2005-11-28 Thread Stephen Stagg
Looking at your javascript, I don't understand your reasons for using
javascript.  You are determining the season from the Month and Day.  This is
constant across the globe (give or take) at any specific time.  Therefore
can't you use PHP or some other server script tool or even just a manual
replacing of the stylesheet periodically to reflect the current season?  I
don't know whether JS can detect local region settings?



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Samuel Richardson
Sent: 29 November 2005 00:19
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] My Turn for a Site Critique

The problem is, it's always going to be a different season for everyone, 
it doesn't really matter if its set to the server time or not. The only 
way to get around it would be to do an IP detect to check what 
hemisphere the user is in. Maybe in the future..

Thanks for the link about the stylesheet switch, I guess doing it in PHP 
would also fix it too, I wouldn't have to worry about the user the 
having Javascript enabled.

Samuel


Christian Montoya wrote:

>On 11/28/05, Samuel Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>Ok, it's my turn for a site critique:
>>
>>http://www.seasonstravel.com.au/
>>
>>What I'm worried about:
>>
>>  - A new stylesheet loads depending on what season your computer clock
>>is currently in, it should also load a default stylesheet if you don't
>>have javascript enabled, is their any browsers that might have a problem
>>with this?
>>
>>
>
>A problem is see is there is a flash before the new stylesheet is
>loaded. The page was orange/red and then the javascript happened and
>it was green. There are ways to have Javascript work before the page
>loads, one example used for another stylesheet modifier is here:
>http://www.bobbyvandersluis.com/articles/unobtrusiveshowhide.php
>Read through it and see if the technique used there could prevent that
flash.
>
>Or maybe you could do the stylesheet based on the server time and not
>my computer's time... that would also solve the problem... I mean,
>it's snowing here... is the page supposed to be green? Or is it
>because the weather is nice over there?
>
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Re: [WSG] My Turn for a Site Critique

2005-11-28 Thread Samuel Richardson
The problem is, it's always going to be a different season for everyone, 
it doesn't really matter if its set to the server time or not. The only 
way to get around it would be to do an IP detect to check what 
hemisphere the user is in. Maybe in the future..


Thanks for the link about the stylesheet switch, I guess doing it in PHP 
would also fix it too, I wouldn't have to worry about the user the 
having Javascript enabled.


Samuel


Christian Montoya wrote:


On 11/28/05, Samuel Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


Ok, it's my turn for a site critique:

http://www.seasonstravel.com.au/

What I'm worried about:

 - A new stylesheet loads depending on what season your computer clock
is currently in, it should also load a default stylesheet if you don't
have javascript enabled, is their any browsers that might have a problem
with this?
   



A problem is see is there is a flash before the new stylesheet is
loaded. The page was orange/red and then the javascript happened and
it was green. There are ways to have Javascript work before the page
loads, one example used for another stylesheet modifier is here:
http://www.bobbyvandersluis.com/articles/unobtrusiveshowhide.php
Read through it and see if the technique used there could prevent that flash.

Or maybe you could do the stylesheet based on the server time and not
my computer's time... that would also solve the problem... I mean,
it's snowing here... is the page supposed to be green? Or is it
because the weather is nice over there?

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RE: [WSG] My Turn for a Site Critique

2005-11-28 Thread Ted Drake
I have to say, I felt cheated by your navigation. You've got some big,
chunky boxes just ripe for a nice rollover effect and all I got was an
underline?!?  Am I getting jaded? Spoiled?  Is this not the final version?

You've done a nice job with the wordpress pages and blog home page.

Ted


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Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:18 PM
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Subject: [WSG] My Turn for a Site Critique

Ok, it's my turn for a site critique:

http://www.seasonstravel.com.au/

What I'm worried about:

  - A new stylesheet loads depending on what season your computer clock 
is currently in, it should also load a default stylesheet if you don't 
have javascript enabled, is their any browsers that might have a problem 
with this?

  - I've only checked the site in Firefox and IE on the PC. If anybody 
has a mac I'd love for ya to take a quick look at it and let me know if 
anything is wrong with it.

Samuel
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Re: [WSG] My Turn for a Site Critique

2005-11-28 Thread Ben Wong
Nice styles, although it's a bit too pastel for my taste. I think the
stylesheet switch is being done to late. I always see a switch over
from autumn to spring.

On 11/29/05, Samuel Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok, it's my turn for a site critique:
>
> http://www.seasonstravel.com.au/
>
> What I'm worried about:
>
>   - A new stylesheet loads depending on what season your computer clock
> is currently in, it should also load a default stylesheet if you don't
> have javascript enabled, is their any browsers that might have a problem
> with this?
>
>   - I've only checked the site in Firefox and IE on the PC. If anybody
> has a mac I'd love for ya to take a quick look at it and let me know if
> anything is wrong with it.
>
> Samuel
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Re: [WSG] My Turn for a Site Critique

2005-11-28 Thread Christian Montoya
On 11/28/05, Samuel Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok, it's my turn for a site critique:
>
> http://www.seasonstravel.com.au/
>
> What I'm worried about:
>
>   - A new stylesheet loads depending on what season your computer clock
> is currently in, it should also load a default stylesheet if you don't
> have javascript enabled, is their any browsers that might have a problem
> with this?

A problem is see is there is a flash before the new stylesheet is
loaded. The page was orange/red and then the javascript happened and
it was green. There are ways to have Javascript work before the page
loads, one example used for another stylesheet modifier is here:
http://www.bobbyvandersluis.com/articles/unobtrusiveshowhide.php
Read through it and see if the technique used there could prevent that flash.

Or maybe you could do the stylesheet based on the server time and not
my computer's time... that would also solve the problem... I mean,
it's snowing here... is the page supposed to be green? Or is it
because the weather is nice over there?

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[WSG] My Turn for a Site Critique

2005-11-28 Thread Samuel Richardson

Ok, it's my turn for a site critique:

http://www.seasonstravel.com.au/

What I'm worried about:

 - A new stylesheet loads depending on what season your computer clock 
is currently in, it should also load a default stylesheet if you don't 
have javascript enabled, is their any browsers that might have a problem 
with this?


 - I've only checked the site in Firefox and IE on the PC. If anybody 
has a mac I'd love for ya to take a quick look at it and let me know if 
anything is wrong with it.


Samuel
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