[wsjt-devel] Bug report RC3 version

[David Alloza]

Hi,
There is a "easy to reproduct" bug in the RC3 version

The sequence:
170900 -17  0.1 1272 ~  CQ 3B8MM LG89
170918  Tx  1272 ~  3B8MM F4HTQ JN25  
170930 -15  0.1 1271 ~  CQ 3B8MM LG89
170945  Tx  1272 ~  3B8MM F4HTQ JN25  
171015  Tx  1272 ~  3B8MM F4HTQ JN25  
171000 -16  0.1 1272 ~  SP5MNT 3B8MM -12
171015  17 -0.2 1272 ~  3B8MM F4HTQ JN25


3B8MM send a CQ
I respond to this CQ.
3B8MM don"t hear me.
3B8MM respond to SP5MNT station.

The software immediately switch to receive mode... ( this is the expected
behavior)  but the audio output don't stop !.
Finally  I decode my own audio emission (  171015  17 -0.2 1272 ~  3B8MM
F4HTQ JN25 ) with a SNR of 17.

After the bug occurred, I was unable to make new Tx. The software swtich to
Tx mode... but no audio is output. To restore the audio output I need to do
a sequence Halt Tx and Enable Tx

As PTT method I use VOX, I think this may be an important element.

Regards,
David, F4HTQ.




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Re: [wsjt-devel] Second Public Test of FT8 DXpedition Mode: April 7, 1400-1600 UTC

[Hasan al-Basri]

Random callers below 1000 are ignored. Those who have already "engaged" the
Fox are automatically moved below 1000 to finish the qso...that's how the
software works.

Of course, there are those who have no idea what they are doing, can't read
and/or won't read, plus the deliberate qrm'ers...I saw one guy calling the
fox below 1000, at the same time the fox was transmitting. Obviously not
running the right version of the software.

There was lots of stuff like that.

73, N0AN

BTW: K1JT and W7/KH7Z were both S9 +15 to 20 dB in Iowa with all 5 streams
> +3 most of the time.

Hasan

On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 9:38 AM, Gene Marsh  wrote:

> Joe and the group:
>
> First, no propagation in northeast OH for the first test. Bummer.
>
> Second, maybe I’m confused (as usual):
> -  I thought signals below 1000Hz are ignored?  Many are. Some are not.
> -  I thought the Hounds were expected to transmit above 1000Hz and the Fox
> would ignore below?
>
> See the attached picture.
>
> 73 de W8NET Gene
> 3905 Century Club Master #47
> Portage County Amateur Radio Service (PCARS) since 2008
> ARRL A-1 Op
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 5, 2018, at 10:49 AM, Joe Taylor  wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I write to remind you of the second public test of *FT8 DXpedition Mode*
> scheduled for Saturday, April 7, 1400-1600 UTC.  You are cordially invited
> to participate -- the more participants, the better!
> >
> > Our main goal is to simulate pileups in which many "Hounds" call and
> attempt to work a desirable rare DX station, the "Fox".  The test will help
> us to improve our software so as to maximize the practical QSO rate in such
> situations.  We hope you can be there and try to work both Foxes.
> >
> > Here's the detailed schedule:
> >
> > Date  UTC   FrequencyFox Callsign  Operator
> > ---
> > April 7  1400   14.105 MHzW1/KH7Z   N1DG
> > April 7  1500   14.105W7/KH7Z   AA7A
> >
> > All participating stations must use program version WSJT-X v1.9.0-rc3.
> If you don't yet have it, download links are available near the bottom of
> the page here:
> > https://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/wsjtx.html
> >
> > [If you are compiling the program for yourself, be sure to use code
> revision r8576 or later, taken from the repository's WSJT-X development
> branch.  All revisions since r8576 will perform identically in FT8
> DXpedition Mode.]
> >
> > Detailed instructions for both Fox and Hound are posted here:
> > http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/FT8_DXpedition_Mode.pdf
> > Some details in these instructions have changed, so be sure to read and
> follow the latest instructions carefully!  Don't just try to wing it.
> >
> > As you will know after reading the instructions, Fox can conduct up to 5
> QSOs simultaneously, using frequency slots spaced by 60 Hz.  Fox
> transmissions always occur in the frequency range 300-900 Hz above dial
> frequency.
> >
> > If you (as a Hound) can legitimately use more than one callsign -- your
> spouse's call, club call, etc. -- feel free to work each Fox multiple
> times.  No dupe QSOs with the same call, though.
> >
> > Real-time liaison will be available on the "Ping Jockey Relief" chat
> page (PJB), https://www.pingjockey.net/cgi-bin/pingtalkB .  Everyone
> should monitor this page for possible last-minute announcements of a
> frequency change, etc.  To ensure that announcements from Fox stations are
> easily visible, Hounds should monitor PJB but not post messages there
> during the test.
> >
> > The deepest pileups will help us tune the final-release software version
> for optimum performance on both Fox and Hound sides.  After the test,
> please post any comments you feel will be helpful to one of our two email
> forums, wsjtgr...@yahoogroups.com or wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net .
> You will need to be subscribed to the list in order to post there.
> >
> > We sincerely hope you can join us for this test, and that you will work
> both Foxes!
> >
> >-- 73, Joe, K1JT (for the WSJT Development Group)
> >
> >
> > 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Second Public Test of FT8 DXpedition Mode: April 7, 1400-1600 UTC

[Andras Bato]

Stop someone that 3B7A Agalega Island RTTY station whose pile up buried the
test subband!!!
gl de ha6nn
Andras

On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 2:38 PM, Gene Marsh  wrote:

> Joe and the group:
>
> First, no propagation in northeast OH for the first test. Bummer.
>
> Second, maybe I’m confused (as usual):
> -  I thought signals below 1000Hz are ignored?  Many are. Some are not.
> -  I thought the Hounds were expected to transmit above 1000Hz and the Fox
> would ignore below?
>
> See the attached picture.
>
> 73 de W8NET Gene
> 3905 Century Club Master #47
> Portage County Amateur Radio Service (PCARS) since 2008
> ARRL A-1 Op
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 5, 2018, at 10:49 AM, Joe Taylor  wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I write to remind you of the second public test of *FT8 DXpedition Mode*
> scheduled for Saturday, April 7, 1400-1600 UTC.  You are cordially invited
> to participate -- the more participants, the better!
> >
> > Our main goal is to simulate pileups in which many "Hounds" call and
> attempt to work a desirable rare DX station, the "Fox".  The test will help
> us to improve our software so as to maximize the practical QSO rate in such
> situations.  We hope you can be there and try to work both Foxes.
> >
> > Here's the detailed schedule:
> >
> > Date  UTC   FrequencyFox Callsign  Operator
> > ---
> > April 7  1400   14.105 MHzW1/KH7Z   N1DG
> > April 7  1500   14.105W7/KH7Z   AA7A
> >
> > All participating stations must use program version WSJT-X v1.9.0-rc3.
> If you don't yet have it, download links are available near the bottom of
> the page here:
> > https://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/wsjtx.html
> >
> > [If you are compiling the program for yourself, be sure to use code
> revision r8576 or later, taken from the repository's WSJT-X development
> branch.  All revisions since r8576 will perform identically in FT8
> DXpedition Mode.]
> >
> > Detailed instructions for both Fox and Hound are posted here:
> > http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/FT8_DXpedition_Mode.pdf
> > Some details in these instructions have changed, so be sure to read and
> follow the latest instructions carefully!  Don't just try to wing it.
> >
> > As you will know after reading the instructions, Fox can conduct up to 5
> QSOs simultaneously, using frequency slots spaced by 60 Hz.  Fox
> transmissions always occur in the frequency range 300-900 Hz above dial
> frequency.
> >
> > If you (as a Hound) can legitimately use more than one callsign -- your
> spouse's call, club call, etc. -- feel free to work each Fox multiple
> times.  No dupe QSOs with the same call, though.
> >
> > Real-time liaison will be available on the "Ping Jockey Relief" chat
> page (PJB), https://www.pingjockey.net/cgi-bin/pingtalkB .  Everyone
> should monitor this page for possible last-minute announcements of a
> frequency change, etc.  To ensure that announcements from Fox stations are
> easily visible, Hounds should monitor PJB but not post messages there
> during the test.
> >
> > The deepest pileups will help us tune the final-release software version
> for optimum performance on both Fox and Hound sides.  After the test,
> please post any comments you feel will be helpful to one of our two email
> forums, wsjtgr...@yahoogroups.com or wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net .
> You will need to be subscribed to the list in order to post there.
> >
> > We sincerely hope you can join us for this test, and that you will work
> both Foxes!
> >
> >-- 73, Joe, K1JT (for the WSJT Development Group)
> >
> >
> > 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Second Public Test of FT8 DXpedition Mode: April 7, 1400-1600 UTC

[Tom Berry]

I was using a club call W8BAR and got this.
It may help you debug or it may be my fault - I don't know.

I got about 7 "RR73" messages.

73 Tom AA4VV






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Re: [wsjt-devel] Second Public Test of FT8 DXpedition Mode: April 7, 1400-1600 UTC

[Gene Marsh]

Interesting

I could not work them. Zero propagation in the east coast.  Weak in the west.  
However

Signals from W7/KH7Z were:

- if only one signal (i.e. CQ), he was -21 to -18

- if 3-5 signals, all signals were between -12 to -08. 

Contrary to logic. Maybe, the close proximity to the 3-5 signals have an 
additive effect on 1) the signal in the air , and/or 2) the signal in the 
software?

73 de W8NET Gene
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> On Apr 7, 2018, at 11:43 AM, Saku  wrote:
> 
> 
> Here in KP01 / OCF dipole: W7/KH7Z , if 1 carrier, is loud abt -8dB, but 5 
> carriers -19 .. -22dB and mostly useless (gets rolled by qsb/qrm).
> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Second Public Test of FT8 DXpedition Mode: April 7, 1400-1600 UTC

[charlie]

Hi All

During the first test I saw many hounds sending R reports above 1000Hz.
I could copy Fox solidly with max number of slots running.

I did not hear Joe at all.

Fox signal in the second hour was very weak for most of the time.  It
seemed then that most hounds were sending R reports below 1000Hz.

I had Save all on for the entire test.  Available for a few days if needed.

73

Charlie



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Re: [wsjt-devel] Second Public Test of FT8 DXpedition Mode: April 7, 1400-1600 UTC

[John]

I heard W1/KH7Z from 140130 until 143630 when all his transmissions suddenly 
stopped.   I called many times and eventually got a report at 143600 

143600  -9  0.6  352 ~  OZ7AMG RR73; G4KLA  -24

but never a follow up after transmissions stopped.

Thereafter I heard no other FOX calling  until the end of the test at 16:00.
From 144245 I noticed many reponses to K1JT at frequencies less than 1000Hz and 
others calling K1JT.   But not once did I receive a direct transmission from 
K1JT.  

General propagation seemed very poor.   No west coast stations were heard.

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Re: [wsjt-devel] Second Public Test of FT8 DXpedition Mode: April 7, 1400-1600 UTC

[Mike Lavelle]

For the second hour, I (CM87) was in the skip zone of the AZ fox (DM43), so the 
only time that I copied him (weakly) was when he called CQ on single frequency; 
nothing else hear, presumably due to power drop when using multi-freqs... 
perhaps the program should reduce power when using on channel, or maybe call CQ 
on all unused channels at once (simpler), so that signal levels are more 
constant? Anyway, DXped foxes need to consider this effect. 

For the first hour, I copied W1/KH7Z just fine, but could not get him to 
reply... you seemed to be aware to problems, so I won't belabor this. At the 
half hour point, when Joe took over, I got thru pretty quickly and smoothly; 
perhaps his ques hadn't clogged up as yet. 

73, GL and TU for your efforts, 

Mike, K6ML CM87xg 
- Original Message -

From: "Gene Marsh"  
To: "WSJT software development"  
Sent: Saturday, April 7, 2018 9:18:21 AM 
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Second Public Test of FT8 DXpedition Mode: April 7, 
1400-1600 UTC 

Interesting 

I could not work them. Zero propagation in the east coast. Weak in the west. 
However 

Signals from W7/KH7Z were: 

- if only one signal (i.e. CQ), he was -21 to -18 

- if 3-5 signals, all signals were between -12 to -08. 

Contrary to logic. Maybe, the close proximity to the 3-5 signals have an 
additive effect on 1) the signal in the air , and/or 2) the signal in the 
software? 

73 de W8NET Gene 
3905 Century Club Master #47 
Portage County Amateur Radio Service (PCARS) since 2008 
ARRL A-1 Op 

> On Apr 7, 2018, at 11:43 AM, Saku  wrote: 
> 
> 
> Here in KP01 / OCF dipole: W7/KH7Z , if 1 carrier, is loud abt -8dB, but 5 
> carriers -19 .. -22dB and mostly useless (gets rolled by qsb/qrm). 
> 
> -- 
> Saku 
> OH1KH 
> 
> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Second Public Test of FT8 DXpedition Mode: April 7, 1400-1600 UTC

[Tom Melvin]

Afternoon

Took part in 1st test - after 30 odd mins Fox found me, would rather the 2 min 
timeout was a little longer (4 mins or so - at least long enough to double 
check docs or look at Ping thingy on another screen) - Fox moved me to below 
1000 as expected - back and forward, Red Watchdog timeout kicked in - restarted 
- then some W1xx   :-)   started calling below 1000 - then all went to pot - 
lost the Fox, another TX Watchdog timeout - had to give up.

On the 2nd test - could not hear the fox at all.

Lot of time spent making sure was TX’ing  :-(

de Tom
GM8MJV


On 5 Apr 2018, at 15:49, Joe Taylor  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I write to remind you of the second public test of *FT8 DXpedition Mode* 
> scheduled for Saturday, April 7, 1400-1600 UTC.  You are cordially invited to 
> participate -- the more participants, the better!
> 
> Our main goal is to simulate pileups in which many "Hounds" call and attempt 
> to work a desirable rare DX station, the "Fox".  The test will help us to 
> improve our software so as to maximize the practical QSO rate in such 
> situations.  We hope you can be there and try to work both Foxes.
> 
> Here's the detailed schedule:
> 
> Date  UTC   FrequencyFox Callsign  Operator
> ---
> April 7  1400   14.105 MHzW1/KH7Z   N1DG
> April 7  1500   14.105W7/KH7Z   AA7A
> 
> All participating stations must use program version WSJT-X v1.9.0-rc3. If you 
> don't yet have it, download links are available near the bottom of the page 
> here:
> https://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/wsjtx.html
> 
> [If you are compiling the program for yourself, be sure to use code revision 
> r8576 or later, taken from the repository's WSJT-X development branch.  All 
> revisions since r8576 will perform identically in FT8 DXpedition Mode.]
> 
> Detailed instructions for both Fox and Hound are posted here:
> http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/FT8_DXpedition_Mode.pdf
> Some details in these instructions have changed, so be sure to read and 
> follow the latest instructions carefully!  Don't just try to wing it.
> 
> As you will know after reading the instructions, Fox can conduct up to 5 QSOs 
> simultaneously, using frequency slots spaced by 60 Hz.  Fox transmissions 
> always occur in the frequency range 300-900 Hz above dial frequency.
> 
> If you (as a Hound) can legitimately use more than one callsign -- your 
> spouse's call, club call, etc. -- feel free to work each Fox multiple times.  
> No dupe QSOs with the same call, though.
> 
> Real-time liaison will be available on the "Ping Jockey Relief" chat page 
> (PJB), https://www.pingjockey.net/cgi-bin/pingtalkB .  Everyone should 
> monitor this page for possible last-minute announcements of a frequency 
> change, etc.  To ensure that announcements from Fox stations are easily 
> visible, Hounds should monitor PJB but not post messages there during the 
> test.
> 
> The deepest pileups will help us tune the final-release software version for 
> optimum performance on both Fox and Hound sides.  After the test, please post 
> any comments you feel will be helpful to one of our two email forums, 
> wsjtgr...@yahoogroups.com or wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net .  You will 
> need to be subscribed to the list in order to post there.
> 
> We sincerely hope you can join us for this test, and that you will work both 
> Foxes!
> 
>   -- 73, Joe, K1JT (for the WSJT Development Group)
> 
> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Second Public Test of FT8 DXpedition Mode: April 7, 1400-1600 UTC

[Gene Marsh]

Joe and the group:

First, no propagation in northeast OH for the first test. Bummer. 

Second, maybe I’m confused (as usual):  
-  I thought signals below 1000Hz are ignored?  Many are. Some are not. 
-  I thought the Hounds were expected to transmit above 1000Hz and the Fox 
would ignore below?

See the attached picture. 

73 de W8NET Gene
3905 Century Club Master #47
Portage County Amateur Radio Service (PCARS) since 2008
ARRL A-1 Op



> On Apr 5, 2018, at 10:49 AM, Joe Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I write to remind you of the second public test of *FT8 DXpedition Mode* 
> scheduled for Saturday, April 7, 1400-1600 UTC.  You are cordially invited to 
> participate -- the more participants, the better!
> 
> Our main goal is to simulate pileups in which many "Hounds" call and attempt 
> to work a desirable rare DX station, the "Fox".  The test will help us to 
> improve our software so as to maximize the practical QSO rate in such 
> situations.  We hope you can be there and try to work both Foxes.
> 
> Here's the detailed schedule:
> 
> Date  UTC   FrequencyFox Callsign  Operator
> ---
> April 7  1400   14.105 MHzW1/KH7Z   N1DG
> April 7  1500   14.105W7/KH7Z   AA7A
> 
> All participating stations must use program version WSJT-X v1.9.0-rc3. If you 
> don't yet have it, download links are available near the bottom of the page 
> here:
> https://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/wsjtx.html
> 
> [If you are compiling the program for yourself, be sure to use code revision 
> r8576 or later, taken from the repository's WSJT-X development branch.  All 
> revisions since r8576 will perform identically in FT8 DXpedition Mode.]
> 
> Detailed instructions for both Fox and Hound are posted here:
> http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/FT8_DXpedition_Mode.pdf
> Some details in these instructions have changed, so be sure to read and 
> follow the latest instructions carefully!  Don't just try to wing it.
> 
> As you will know after reading the instructions, Fox can conduct up to 5 QSOs 
> simultaneously, using frequency slots spaced by 60 Hz.  Fox transmissions 
> always occur in the frequency range 300-900 Hz above dial frequency.
> 
> If you (as a Hound) can legitimately use more than one callsign -- your 
> spouse's call, club call, etc. -- feel free to work each Fox multiple times.  
> No dupe QSOs with the same call, though.
> 
> Real-time liaison will be available on the "Ping Jockey Relief" chat page 
> (PJB), https://www.pingjockey.net/cgi-bin/pingtalkB .  Everyone should 
> monitor this page for possible last-minute announcements of a frequency 
> change, etc.  To ensure that announcements from Fox stations are easily 
> visible, Hounds should monitor PJB but not post messages there during the 
> test.
> 
> The deepest pileups will help us tune the final-release software version for 
> optimum performance on both Fox and Hound sides.  After the test, please post 
> any comments you feel will be helpful to one of our two email forums, 
> wsjtgr...@yahoogroups.com or wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net .  You will 
> need to be subscribed to the list in order to post there.
> 
> We sincerely hope you can join us for this test, and that you will work both 
> Foxes!
> 
>-- 73, Joe, K1JT (for the WSJT Development Group)
> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Second Public Test of FT8 DXpedition Mode: April 7, 1400-1600 UTC

[Richard Lamont]

On 05/04/18 15:49, Joe Taylor wrote:

> I write to remind you of the second public test of *FT8 DXpedition Mode*
> scheduled for Saturday, April 7, 1400-1600 UTC.

WSJT-X 1.9.0-rc3 r8576
Ubuntu 16.04 LTS

The watchdog timer in the bottom right-hand corner of the main window
seems to be wrong. It's showing a countdown from 6m instead of the
reduced DXpedition mode timeout.


73,
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Second Public Test of FT8 DXpedition Mode: April 7, 1400-1600 UTC

[Andras Bato]

All those who use FT-847 or similar satellite ground station must not
choose in Settings-->Radio
because the radio switches into satellite mode.

It well worth checking http://www.sk3bg.se/contest/ webpage to see what
kind of contests are planned for a -say a test day.
Today there is EA RTTY Contest is going on.
We all know there is no band plan during a contest like this.
It's simply may called anarchy.
(Iztok S52D was quite right!)

The pingjokey chat has been unreachable.

The time mark in WSJT-X at the left hand side buries the foxes.
That's all for today!
May you have endless patience to go on with developing DXp!
gl de ha6nn
Andras

On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 4:07 PM, Richard Lamont  wrote:

> On 05/04/18 15:49, Joe Taylor wrote:
>
> > I write to remind you of the second public test of *FT8 DXpedition Mode*
> > scheduled for Saturday, April 7, 1400-1600 UTC.
>
> WSJT-X 1.9.0-rc3 r8576
> Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
>
> The watchdog timer in the bottom right-hand corner of the main window
> seems to be wrong. It's showing a countdown from 6m instead of the
> reduced DXpedition mode timeout.
>
>
> 73,
> Richard G4DYA
>
>
>
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Second Public Test of FT8 DXpedition Mode: April 7, 1400-1600 UTC

[F6BHK]

Hi there

I found the use of the "Ping Jockey Relief" chat page was a very good 
idea, and useful and working well!


I was able to hear steadily the first fox W1/KH7Z. Gave him a series of 
call from 1402 Z (since the fox was late... never saw this case in real 
life - I share my sofa with 2 Spanish greyhounds - galgos - and the 
rabbits always hope the hounds will be late) till 1410 Z to no avail. I 
had put my TX above 3500Hz; nobody was TXing up there.


Then from 1410 till 1430 I tries to move my freq between 2500Hz and 
4000Hz. That led me to nowhere.


Then the bugs hit the fox and he gave up. Too bad, for I never heard his 
Stand-in partner.


As for the W7/KH7Z fox, I never ever heard him calling. I guess the 
propag was not top level and my low range station (Flex 5000A running 
abt 90W max into a vertical R7) was not efficient enough to get my 
signal cross half our world.


But I stayed listening.

I find that I heard a lot of people calling and sending reports, however 
I find that the number of RR73 were not as numerous as they should have 
been.


I was surprised to "see" in the waterfall the fox's sigs (up to 
'yellowish' dots) whilst there were no decode at all.


All in all a very frustrating experience, I hope it'll be for the good!

Cheers
Serge


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Re: [wsjt-devel] Second Public Test of FT8 DXpedition Mode: April 7, 1400-1600 UTC

[John Becker]

W1/KH7Z and K1JT were consistently loud in IL, about +10. I called for 
the full hour trying different frequencies and power levels. No luck on 
a QSO. Most stations being worked seemed to be either west coast or Europe.


W7/KH7Z was also loud. I worked him almost immediately with high power, 
then again almost as fast with a club call and low power.


He was sending RR73 more than once. I was not replying to that as I 
thought that was the end of the QSO and it was logged. Software bug?


A software suggestion: I keep the "Hold TX freq" box checked. After 
using DXpedition mode and returning to normal mode, that setting is not 
restored. Would this be possible? Thanks!


73,

John, K9MM

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Re: [wsjt-devel] Second Public Test of FT8 DXpedition Mode: April 7, 1400-1600 UTC

[Gene Marsh]

BTW, I checked “Rx All Freqs” AFTER I made the screen cap. 

73 de W8NET Gene
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Portage County Amateur Radio Service (PCARS) since 2008
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> On Apr 7, 2018, at 10:38 AM, Gene Marsh  wrote:
> 
> Joe and the group:
> 
> First, no propagation in northeast OH for the first test. Bummer. 
> 
> Second, maybe I’m confused (as usual):  
> -  I thought signals below 1000Hz are ignored?  Many are. Some are not. 
> -  I thought the Hounds were expected to transmit above 1000Hz and the Fox 
> would ignore below?
> 
> See the attached picture. 
> 
> 73 de W8NET Gene
> 3905 Century Club Master #47
> Portage County Amateur Radio Service (PCARS) since 2008
> ARRL A-1 Op
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 5, 2018, at 10:49 AM, Joe Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I write to remind you of the second public test of *FT8 DXpedition Mode* 
>> scheduled for Saturday, April 7, 1400-1600 UTC.  You are cordially invited 
>> to participate -- the more participants, the better!
>> 
>> Our main goal is to simulate pileups in which many "Hounds" call and attempt 
>> to work a desirable rare DX station, the "Fox".  The test will help us to 
>> improve our software so as to maximize the practical QSO rate in such 
>> situations.  We hope you can be there and try to work both Foxes.
>> 
>> Here's the detailed schedule:
>> 
>> Date  UTC   FrequencyFox Callsign  Operator
>> ---
>> April 7  1400   14.105 MHzW1/KH7Z   N1DG
>> April 7  1500   14.105W7/KH7Z   AA7A
>> 
>> All participating stations must use program version WSJT-X v1.9.0-rc3. If 
>> you don't yet have it, download links are available near the bottom of the 
>> page here:
>> https://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/wsjtx.html
>> 
>> [If you are compiling the program for yourself, be sure to use code revision 
>> r8576 or later, taken from the repository's WSJT-X development branch.  All 
>> revisions since r8576 will perform identically in FT8 DXpedition Mode.]
>> 
>> Detailed instructions for both Fox and Hound are posted here:
>> http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/FT8_DXpedition_Mode.pdf
>> Some details in these instructions have changed, so be sure to read and 
>> follow the latest instructions carefully!  Don't just try to wing it.
>> 
>> As you will know after reading the instructions, Fox can conduct up to 5 
>> QSOs simultaneously, using frequency slots spaced by 60 Hz.  Fox 
>> transmissions always occur in the frequency range 300-900 Hz above dial 
>> frequency.
>> 
>> If you (as a Hound) can legitimately use more than one callsign -- your 
>> spouse's call, club call, etc. -- feel free to work each Fox multiple times. 
>>  No dupe QSOs with the same call, though.
>> 
>> Real-time liaison will be available on the "Ping Jockey Relief" chat page 
>> (PJB), https://www.pingjockey.net/cgi-bin/pingtalkB .  Everyone should 
>> monitor this page for possible last-minute announcements of a frequency 
>> change, etc.  To ensure that announcements from Fox stations are easily 
>> visible, Hounds should monitor PJB but not post messages there during the 
>> test.
>> 
>> The deepest pileups will help us tune the final-release software version for 
>> optimum performance on both Fox and Hound sides.  After the test, please 
>> post any comments you feel will be helpful to one of our two email forums, 
>> wsjtgr...@yahoogroups.com or wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net .  You will 
>> need to be subscribed to the list in order to post there.
>> 
>> We sincerely hope you can join us for this test, and that you will work both 
>> Foxes!
>> 
>>   -- 73, Joe, K1JT (for the WSJT Development Group)
>> 
>> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Second Public Test of FT8 DXpedition Mode: April 7, 1400-1600 UTC

[Saku]

Here in KP01 / OCF dipole: W7/KH7Z , if 1 carrier, is loud abt -8dB, but 
5 carriers -19 .. -22dB and mostly useless (gets rolled by qsb/qrm).


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Re: [wsjt-devel] Second Public Test of FT8 DXpedition Mode: April 7, 1400-1600 UTC

[C. Gary Rogers]

I could not hear the foxes during the first hour at all so I didn’t call. Heard 
them intermittently during the second hour not sure if I was even heard. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 7, 2018, at 12:18 PM, Gene Marsh  wrote:
> 
> Interesting
> 
> I could not work them. Zero propagation in the east coast.  Weak in the west. 
>  However
> 
> Signals from W7/KH7Z were:
> 
> - if only one signal (i.e. CQ), he was -21 to -18
> 
> - if 3-5 signals, all signals were between -12 to -08. 
> 
> Contrary to logic. Maybe, the close proximity to the 3-5 signals have an 
> additive effect on 1) the signal in the air , and/or 2) the signal in the 
> software?
> 
> 73 de W8NET Gene
> 3905 Century Club Master #47
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> ARRL A-1 Op
> 
>> On Apr 7, 2018, at 11:43 AM, Saku  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Here in KP01 / OCF dipole: W7/KH7Z , if 1 carrier, is loud abt -8dB, but 5 
>> carriers -19 .. -22dB and mostly useless (gets rolled by qsb/qrm).
>> 
>> -- 
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>> OH1KH
>> 
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[wsjt-devel] Second Fox and Hound test

[Bill Turner via wsjt-devel]

>From EM94 in NC, I heard the foxes in both hours on four or five frequencies 
>in the 300-500 range and occasionally up in the 800-900 range.  Unfortunately 
>it was one way propagation, W7/KH6Z did hear me toward the end of the second 
>hour according to PSK Reporter, but no contact.
At times 1.9.0 r8603 stopped decoding and had to reboot the software. (WIN10, 
Dell D630 laptop, Icom IC-7300)
Normal mode worked fine, worked F4HJO on 20m at 1628Z after the test.
Bill Turner, W4WNT
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[wsjt-devel] Split occurring - Non DX Exp Mode

[Mark Rutherford]

Morning Guys,

Regarding testing Apr7th 1400-1600 from OZ I was able to some hound
activity in the first 30min or so last night but not neither "KH7Z"
stations.

That said, this morning I've noticed that once I deactivated "hound" mode,
so its now in normal FT8 mode and the setting for split was still on RIG,
the SPLIT mode on the rig would reactivate even when I've manually turned
it off. I noticed this when I'm below the 900hz range will go -1.5khz
offset too.

I'm using WSJT in "rig split mode" using "Omni Rig 1" for CAT control.  To
work around this feature I turn SPLIT "none" and all ok.  But means before
going back into HOUND mode I'd need to remember to reenable it.

Should there be logic that if we are in Normal FT8 then regardless if you
have split enabled via config FT* should know to force 0hz offset and ie
appear not use SPLIT ?

Cheers
Mark VK4TMZ
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Second Public Test of FT8 DXpedition Mode: April 7, 1400-1600 UTC

[Grant Willis]

That looked to be a pirate – 3B7A was working 20CW at the time and I could hear 
them here but I couldn’t hear their RTTY signal (de Grant VK5GR)

 

From: Andras Bato [mailto:ha6nn.a...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, 8 April 2018 12:38 AM
To: WSJT software development
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Second Public Test of FT8 DXpedition Mode: April 7, 
1400-1600 UTC

 

Stop someone that 3B7A Agalega Island RTTY station whose pile up buried the 
test subband!!!

gl de ha6nn

Andras

 

On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 2:38 PM, Gene Marsh  wrote:

Joe and the group:

First, no propagation in northeast OH for the first test. Bummer.

Second, maybe I’m confused (as usual):
-  I thought signals below 1000Hz are ignored?  Many are. Some are not.
-  I thought the Hounds were expected to transmit above 1000Hz and the Fox 
would ignore below?

See the attached picture.


73 de W8NET Gene
3905 Century Club Master #47
Portage County Amateur Radio Service (PCARS) since 2008
ARRL A-1 Op




> On Apr 5, 2018, at 10:49 AM, Joe Taylor  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I write to remind you of the second public test of *FT8 DXpedition Mode* 
> scheduled for Saturday, April 7, 1400-1600 UTC.  You are cordially invited to 
> participate -- the more participants, the better!
>
> Our main goal is to simulate pileups in which many "Hounds" call and attempt 
> to work a desirable rare DX station, the "Fox".  The test will help us to 
> improve our software so as to maximize the practical QSO rate in such 
> situations.  We hope you can be there and try to work both Foxes.
>
> Here's the detailed schedule:
>
> Date  UTC   FrequencyFox Callsign  Operator
> ---
> April 7  1400   14.105 MHzW1/KH7Z   N1DG
> April 7  1500   14.105W7/KH7Z   AA7A
>
> All participating stations must use program version WSJT-X v1.9.0-rc3. If you 
> don't yet have it, download links are available near the bottom of the page 
> here:
> https://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/wsjtx.html
>
> [If you are compiling the program for yourself, be sure to use code revision 
> r8576 or later, taken from the repository's WSJT-X development branch.  All 
> revisions since r8576 will perform identically in FT8 DXpedition Mode.]
>
> Detailed instructions for both Fox and Hound are posted here:
> http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/FT8_DXpedition_Mode.pdf
> Some details in these instructions have changed, so be sure to read and 
> follow the latest instructions carefully!  Don't just try to wing it.
>
> As you will know after reading the instructions, Fox can conduct up to 5 QSOs 
> simultaneously, using frequency slots spaced by 60 Hz.  Fox transmissions 
> always occur in the frequency range 300-900 Hz above dial frequency.
>
> If you (as a Hound) can legitimately use more than one callsign -- your 
> spouse's call, club call, etc. -- feel free to work each Fox multiple times.  
> No dupe QSOs with the same call, though.
>
> Real-time liaison will be available on the "Ping Jockey Relief" chat page 
> (PJB), https://www.pingjockey.net/cgi-bin/pingtalkB .  Everyone should 
> monitor this page for possible last-minute announcements of a frequency 
> change, etc.  To ensure that announcements from Fox stations are easily 
> visible, Hounds should monitor PJB but not post messages there during the 
> test.
>
> The deepest pileups will help us tune the final-release software version for 
> optimum performance on both Fox and Hound sides.  After the test, please post 
> any comments you feel will be helpful to one of our two email forums, 
> wsjtgr...@yahoogroups.com or wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net .  You will 
> need to be subscribed to the list in order to post there.
>
> We sincerely hope you can join us for this test, and that you will work both 
> Foxes!
>
>-- 73, Joe, K1JT (for the WSJT Development Group)
>
>
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