Re: [Xastir] Confused..HELP

[Ken Koster]

On Saturday, November 7, 2020 3:50:22 PM PST Tom Russo wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 08, 2020 at 09:57:32AM +1100, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the  flavor, containing:
> > Ideally, yes.
> > 
> > The problem with the repo version is its age. For Debian Buster the repo
> > version is 2.1.0 released on Feb 12 2018.

Fair enough.   I don't run Xastir on my RPi and I don't run Debian on my other 
machines (OpenSUSE) so the released version is usually adaquate although I 
build 
from scratch there too.

> > v2.1.4 (Jul 15 2019) fixed numerous issues and the latest release is 2.1.6
> > (Apr 18 2020). Look here for releases and fixes.
> > https://github.com/Xastir/Xastir/releases
> > 
> > Compiling from Github sources is simple provided the steps in the
> > documentation are accurately followed.

> What he said.
> 
> Ubuntu/Raspbian/Debian repos tend to lag releases of Xastir by years.
> 
> The latest "unstable" or "testing" releases might have the latest release
> of Xastir, but the "stable" release of the OS tend to stick with whatever
> version was current when that OS release happened.
> 
> If you want Xastir to work right, you generally have to ignore the packaged
> version and build it yourself from the sources.
> 
> > On 8/11/20 9:17 am, Ken Koster wrote:
> > > Do you really need to re-compile xastir?
> > > It is available from the repositories.
> > > 
> > > sudo apt-get install xastir.
> > > 
> > > On Friday, November 6, 2020 1:24:33 PM PST kb8ui...@charter.net wrote:
> > > > Hi, newbie here. I can't get Xastir to load properly on my Pi 3.
> > > > Excerpt below from https://xastir.org/index.php/HowTo:Raspbian [1]
> > > > When I asked for the bootstrap command to run I got a response of
> > > > root@raspberrypi:~/src/Xastir# ./bootstrap.sh 6) Removing
> > > > autom4te.cache directory... 5) Running aclocal/bootstrap.sh: 15:
> > > > ./bootstrap.sh: aclocal: not foundroot@raspberrypi:~/src/Xastir#
> > > > Can anyone let me know what didn't load correctly?
> > > > Thanks
> > > > 
> > > > GET XASTIR SOURCE CODE FROM THE GITHUB REPOSITORY
> > > > 
> > > > In this method, you get your source code directly from the 
> > > > repository
> > > > 
> > > > the developers use to work on the software. Here's the step-by-step
> > > > method for getting it this way.
> > > > 
> > > > You can make different choices here for where you want to store 
> > > > your
> > > > 
> > > > code. This example puts it in a src directory under the user's home
> > > > 
> > > > directory:
> > > >  mkdir ~/src cd ~/src
> > > > 
> > > > Then issue the following command to retrieve the latest Xastir 
> > > > code:
> > > >  git clone https://github.com/Xastir/Xastir.git [2]
> > > > 
> > > > The above command could take a while to finish if you're on a slow
> > > > link, as there are a lot of files to download.
> > > > 
> > > > * Run bootstrap to generate Makefile.am and configure:
> > > >  cd Xastir ./bootstrap.sh
> > > > 
> > > > Links:
> > > > --
> > > > [1] https://xastir.org/index.php/HowTo:Raspbian
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Re: [Xastir] Confused..HELP

[Ken Koster]

Do you really need to re-compile xastir?   
It is available from the repositories.

sudo apt-get install xastir.

On Friday, November 6, 2020 1:24:33 PM PST kb8ui...@charter.net wrote:
> Hi, newbie here. I can't get Xastir to load properly on my Pi 3.
> Excerpt below from https://xastir.org/index.php/HowTo:Raspbian [1]
> When I asked for the bootstrap command to run I got a response of
> root@raspberrypi:~/src/Xastir# ./bootstrap.sh 6) Removing
> autom4te.cache directory... 5) Running aclocal/bootstrap.sh: 15:
> ./bootstrap.sh: aclocal: not foundroot@raspberrypi:~/src/Xastir#
> Can anyone let me know what didn't load correctly?
> Thanks
> 
> GET XASTIR SOURCE CODE FROM THE GITHUB REPOSITORY
> 
>   In this method, you get your source code directly from the repository
> the developers use to work on the software. Here's the step-by-step
> method for getting it this way.
> 
>   You can make different choices here for where you want to store your
> code. This example puts it in a src directory under the user's home
> directory:
> 
>mkdir ~/src cd ~/src
> 
>   Then issue the following command to retrieve the latest Xastir code:
> 
>git clone https://github.com/Xastir/Xastir.git [2]
> 
> The above command could take a while to finish if you're on a slow
> link, as there are a lot of files to download.
> 
>   * Run bootstrap to generate Makefile.am and configure:
> 
>cd Xastir ./bootstrap.sh
> 
> 
> 
> Links:
> --
> [1] https://xastir.org/index.php/HowTo:Raspbian
> [2] https://github.com/Xastir/Xastirgit
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Re: [Xastir] Desktop Icon for Xastir on Mint

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On Thursday, October 24, 2019 1:29:11 PM PDT wa7skg wrote:
> New subject. Got Xastir working and a few issues remain. Apparently, on
> restart or whatever, I need to open a terminal and start the festival
> server. Then I have to start Xastir in the terminal. Is it possible to
> have festival start when the computer starts? More importantly, Xastir

I'm not familiar with mint but on my systems (openSUSE) festival is started by 
a 
systemd service file.  

I've included mine below and it should work on mint but I make no guarantees.

Copy the below into a file called festival.service
On openSUSE service files are in /usr/lib/systemd/system.  Your mileage may 
vary.

Enable with: sudo systemctl enable festival
Start with: sudo systemctl start festival.

--cut here---
[Unit]
Description=festival daemon providing full text-to-speech system
After=remote-fs.target
After=time-sync.target
Wants=remote-fs.target

[Service]
Type=forking
Restart=no
TimeoutSec=5min
IgnoreSIGPIPE=no
KillMode=process
GuessMainPID=no
RemainAfterExit=yes
SuccessExitStatus=5 6
ExecStart=/usr/lib/festival/server start
ExecStop=/usr/lib/festival/server stop
ExecReload=/usr/lib/festival/server reload

[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target
--cut here---


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Re: [Xastir] Start upon Bootup

[Ken Koster]

On Tuesday, February 5, 2019 7:58:43 AM PST Jim Darrough wrote:
> I've seen this mentioned a few times, but I need to get current and
> appropriate input on how to start Xastir upon boot of the RPi.

For a program like Xastir that has a GUI you need to edit the desktop autostart 
file.

On the raspberry pi it's found at:  ~/.config/lxsession/LXDE-pi/autostart

nano ~/.config/lxsession/LXDE-pi/autostart
and add a line like this to the end.

@xastir

That should cause xastir to start up after the desktop is up.

NOTE:   The vast majority of my RPi are all headless so I haven't tried this 
with 
Xastir but it is the standard way of autostarting applications on the desktop. 

Ken,  N7IPB

> Also have a question on how to set transmit delay so that the
> transceiver has time to develop power before the data stream starts. On
> a KPC3+ this was done by setting TXD to 60. Not at all sure how to do
> with RPi3/Pi-Tnc/Xastir.
> 
> Thanks for any comments.
> 
> 73 Jim Darrough, KI7AY EM25pd


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Re: [Xastir] Xastir with DRAWS

[Ken Koster]

On Saturday, December 8, 2018 10:55:48 AM PST Michael wrote:
> Is anybody using Xastir with DRAWS on a RasberryPi? What is your
> experience? Good, bad, indifferent? Compared to other modems like the
> TNC-Pi?
> 
> tnx es 73,
> 
> Michael WA7SKG

DRAWS is only a sound card and can be used anywhere you use a regular sound 
card.   Above 
and beyond the sound card  it has an onboard GPS and PTT/CSQ lines that use the 
RPi GPIOs.  
It is not a complete solution.

To make it work with Xastir still requires additional software that:
a) Can use a sound card to decode/encode ax25 packets.
b) Can use the RPi GPIO lines for PTT.
c) Software to access the GPS (gpsd) if you're taking your RPi mobile.

One of the software modems that can do this is Direwolf.
For the GPS I presume you can use gpsd.

Very likely none (or few) of us on the Xastir list have DRAWS boards but we can 
infer what it 
will do from the above information about DRAWS and our experience using other 
soundcards with Xastir.

Direwolf is one of the best software modems available and when coupled with 
DRAWS 
should out perform most if not all other solutions.

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Re: [Xastir] Kantronics DiGi help

[Ken Koster]

On Wednesday, November 28, 2018 7:56:49 AM PST Curt, WE7U wrote:
> I've noticed a lot of people these days only do/recognize top-posting, so
> I'm going against my better nature and top-posting this comment.
> 
> 1) Which "author" are you talking about? We have many developers (16 at last
> count), plus a whole lot of users who answer questions on the mailing list.
> If a non-developer answers a question so much the better! Many users know a
> whole lot more about using the program than some developers do plus it
> frees up developer time for other activities.
> 
> 2) Check the email thread to see if responses have gotten hidden that you
> never read:
> 
> 2a) Many people (including me) by default respond AFTER your text or
> intersperse our answers in-between your questions. Many email packages hide
> those responses underneath a little line that you have to click on to see.
> 
> 2b) If multiple responses came in since you last checked your inbox and
> you're in threaded mode, you probably only see the most recent response.
> You need to dig a little to see all of them.
> 
> Personally I use GMail, tell it NOT to thread, but then do most of my email
> work inside Alpine on Linux: I'm not on the web-based or phone-based email
> except in rare circumstances. I don't miss any responses due to threading
> and no interspersed responses are hidden.
> 
> For more info, see below, plus read other messages that may have been hidden
> from you due to threading.

+1000

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Re: [Xastir] Raspberry PI 3 install instructions needed

[Ken Koster]

On Thursday, October 18, 2018 1:10:45 PM PDT woodworkingman2000 wrote:
> The instruction page is way out of date. For new install. Many Libs not
> found. Can somebody update the Install page if possible.

I just went through the whole process on a fresh install of raspian stretch. 
I did not do the shortcut but followed all the remaining instructions.  I did 
not install 
gdal.   

The only change necessary was to install a different package to get xset.

sudo apt-get install x11-xserver-utils  

Even without xset the build completed without errors and xastir runs fine (in 
my 
case on a remote display since this particular pi is headless)

Exactly what image are you attempting to install xastir on?  It sounds like 
it's either 
not a complete install of raspian, or some other custom image.

Ken,  N7IPB
 
> Thanks
> 
> Also the page that give this mail list address is also incorrect.
> 
> Using Xastir
> To post a message to all the list members, send email to Xastir at
> lists.xastir.org.
> You can subscribe to the list, or change your existing subscription,
> in the sections below.
> Incorrrect -> lists.xastir.org
> Correct -> xastir@lists.xastir.org
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Re: [Xastir] Viewing real-time Aircraft and Ships w/Xastir

[Ken Koster]

On Friday, September 21, 2018 2:13:37 PM PDT Tom Russo wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 02:11:37PM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the  flavor, containing:
> > On Fri, 21 Sep 2018, Gerry Creager - NOAA Affiliate wrote:
> > > Some old and really bad nightmares still begin with, "It's just Perl".
> > > I'll
> > > see about loading it up, and adding a dongle. Should be straightforward
> > > at
> > > home.
> > 
> > There _may_ be others on the Xastir list that know a little Perl and can
> > help...
> > 
> > Perl: The first write-only language?
> 
> Hah, as if.  You must never have written a program in APL.  And you should
> have been there in the days of TECO (TECO macros didn't look like programs,
> they looked like line noise).

Some of us were and the infamous TECO VT100 macro comes to mind.

And then there was the TECO macro I did that allowed other lab denizens to 
select 
from a menu and program proms on the serially connected Data I/O programmer.

Topped off by the control menu that purported to restrict access to various 
games 
on the system so management had the illusion that engineers couldn't play 
during 
business ours.

Those were the days...I think I even have a copy for Linux somewhere around 
here.  
If I distract myself enough I think I can resist installing it again.

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Re: [Xastir] Added to Git: U.S. Tiger WMS Maps

[Ken Koster]

On Saturday, August 25, 2018 3:15:38 PM PDT Curt, WE7U wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Aug 2018, Tom Henderson wrote:
> > Looks great! However, I can't get the borders to overlay any other map.
> > The
> > transparency doesn't seem to be working.
> 
> Yea, was working for me, but the .geo for that one may have to be re-worked
> for different depths of displays and such.
> 
> I have U.S. Counties and State Boundaries Shapefiles I can use as well. No
> issues with transparency 'cuz they are vector maps.

I have the same issue Tom does,  and no amount of tweaking of the transparent 
line in 
the .geo file makes it work.

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Re: [Xastir] Be glad that Xastir moved to GitHub

[Ken Koster]

On Friday, March 2, 2018 8:23:03 PM PST Dave wrote:
> SourceForge has been offline/messed up for days...
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I wonder if it's the same thing that hit Github on the 28th.

https://githubengineering.com/ddos-incident-report/
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Re: [Xastir] AX 25 networking kernel warnings --- heads up all AX.25 users Re: Error in Syslog

[Ken Koster]

On Monday, February 5, 2018 6:39:11 AM PST Max Harper wrote:
> Why does ax.25 need to be in the kernel? 

Because it's part of the network stack.

> What am I installing when I do
> apt-get install ax25?

Probably the ax25-tools.

> What about the millions of users that don't use
> ax.25, doesn't that just make the kernel a little larger for them without
> any benefits? 

The kernel doesn't work that way.   The linux kernel is modular and there are 
thousands of 
modules for special purposes that get loaded when needed.   Modules for 
different hardware,  file 
systems, different protocols and interfaces. 

The ax25 kernel support is what provides a network interface (like ethernet 
drivers)  and a 
protocol stack.  It's a module so it doesn't take up space if it's not needed.  
When you setup and 
configure ax25 the kernel module will be loaded and do it's job.

N7IPB

> Help me understand this as I'd really like to know. Max
> KG4PID  From: Tom Russo 
>  To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion 
>  Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 9:46 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Xastir] AX 25 networking kernel warnings --- heads up all
> AX.25 users Re: Error in Syslog
> On Sun, Feb 04, 2018 at 11:16:41AM -0800, we recorded a bogon-computron 
> collision of the 
 flavor, containing:
> > Hey Tom, Everyone,
> > 
> > > I would appreciate it if *everyone* on the list who uses AX.25
> > > networking
> > > routinely would test out this code --- it impacts *everyone* who uses
> > > AX.25
> > > networking in Xastir.
> > 
> > The Ax.25 stack in the Linux kernel is falling apart and there have been
> > various discussions about this on the UROnode list and elsewhere.  The
> > situation is that other (non-AX25) Linux kernel developers have been
> > making changes, updates, deprecations, etc. to keep up with general
> > kernel modernization efforts but without testing any of the changes on
> > the AX.25 side of things.  It seems that if it compiles, it must be
> > working.  Not true!  For various classic packet uses, 3.17.x was the
> > last version before things started getting really broken.
> 
> Hmmm.  It still worked for APRS with my 4.4 kernel, but then APRS is all I
> use AX.25 for.
> 
> > Most of these have been reported to the "AX25 kernel maintainers" but
> > those people say they *aren't* the maintainers on the kernel side.. just
> > the userland side.  Putting it another way, we don't have any Linux
> > AX.25 maintainers anymore!  Unless we can find some folk who have the
> > technical chops to fix some of these issues (I wish I did), I imagine
> > the native AX.25 stack in Linux will become toxic and ultimately
> > removed.  If there is anyone who is willing to give this a try, I can
> > connect you with a few other people who have a consolidated list of
> > issues and some possible fixes.  Some of those fixes were previously
> > rejected from the kernel maintainers for various reasons without
> > offering solutions.
> 
> Sigh.  Wish I had the chops for it, but I don't.  It'll be sad if AX.25 dies
> in the Linux kernel.


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Re: [Xastir] Oregon Scientific wmr200 weather station

[Ken Koster]

On Friday, October 27, 2017 9:03:42 PM PDT Steven Morrison wrote:
> Have you looked at Weewx?  I've been going through the documentation and
> it runs on multiple platforms (written in Python) including the Pi.  I
> haven't had time to interface with my weather station, but it also
> supports a large number of weather stations

I highly recommend Weewx .  I've had it connected to my Davis VantageVue and 
running on a Pi since early 2016.   https://weather.wetnet.net 

I haven't connected it to Xastir but I've heard that others have used it with 
aprs.  I just haven't taken the time to figure out the steps.

Ken,  N7IPB

> Steve
> KE5SXT
>
> On 10/25/2017 4:50 PM, David Flood wrote:
> > Joe,
> > 
> > Right now Xastir assumes that you have your weather station attached
> > directly to the system which Xastir is running on.  And there's only a
> > few of those that are supported, even less on the Pi.
> > 
> > However, I do note this from the Cumulus MX main page:
> > 
> > Automatic upload of data to web sites, Weather Underground, CWOP/APRS, PSW
> > Weather/WeatherForYou/HAMweather, Twitter
> > 
> > So it may be possible to upload your weather data to those data streams
> > directly from that program without involving Xastir.
> > 
> > Dave
> > KD7MYC
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > 
> >> From: Joseph LaFerla 
> >> Sent: Oct 25, 2017 8:21 AM
> >> 
> >> I have an Oregon scientific wmr200 which connects with usb to a computer.
> >>  I run CumulusMX to read data from the wmr200> 
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Re: [Xastir] on Android

[Ken Koster]

On Monday, September 11, 2017 12:22:47 PM PDT Curt, WE7U wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Sep 2017, Fred Hillhouse wrote:
> > ShareGPS runs on an Android and may work. I have used it to share over a
> > wireless network (IP:port) to a tablet.
> If there's a gpsd type of instance that runs on Android, we speak gpsd from
> Xastir.

Check and see if it's already there.   At one time in the distant past it was 
used by android.

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Re: [Xastir] API Key Required OSM

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On Thursday, July 27, 2017 9:06:57 PM PDT Skyler F wrote:
> On the OSM Tiled Cycle Maps, I am getting the "API KEY REQUIRED" warning on
> the map tiles.
> 
> So I signed up for an API key here: (free for 150,000 tiles each month)
> http://www.thunderforest.com/docs/apikeys/
> 
> The format for the API key is:
> 
> https://{s}.tile.thunderforest.com/outdoors/{z}/{x}/{y}.png?apikey=
> 
> 
> 
> Is there any way to embedd this API key in xastirs .geo map files?? 

The API key has to be tacked onto the end of the URL and with the current way 
that Xastir handles the .geo files that can't be done without code changes.

About a month ago I did some preliminary work and added an APIKEY field to the 
.geo file and modified map_geo.c, tile_mgmnt.c and map_OSM.c to use it.  It 
worked but I'm not convinced that putting the key in each individual .geo file 
is the best way to go for reasons that escape me right now.   I was busy with 
another project and haven't had time to revisit the changes.
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Re: [Xastir] Propose a new Xastir release?

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On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 10:38:24 AM PDT Ken Koster wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 9:12:55 AM PDT David Ranch wrote:
> > Hello Everyone,
> > 
> > > If you're running Xastir on an RPi you will need to build from source
> > > since the version of Xastir installed by raspian is ancient and
> > > unfortunately was the version handed out to 100+ attendees of the RPi
> > > workshop at SeaPac a few weeks ago.
> > 
> > This is a common issue with stable applications that live out of their
> > SCM system and don't create official releases very often. Even with an
> > official release being published, most distro package managers are just
> > volunteers and they aren't always on top of when something new is
> > available.  Regardless, step one is to get a new Xastir version released
> > and then we can pursue with the Debian, Fedora, etc. package managers.
> > 
> > Do we think the current state of Xastir is worthy of an official release?
> 
> 2.0.8 stable was released last July and is in most distributions,  including
> Debian on which Rasbian is based.  

Replying to myself I take that last back.   I just checked OpenSUSE which is 
what I use 
and they're still back on 2.0.6,  even on the Tumbleweed rolling release.   So 
Debian is 
the only one I can confirm is good.

> Imagine my surprise at the workshop
> when I found a version so old that the Internet maps didn't even work.  At
> the time I said I would look into why it wasn't picked up for the RPi but
> just haven't taken the time yet.
> 
> As for a new release I think there are a couple of things in the latest that
> might make a release worthwhile but I'll let Curt speak up about that.
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Re: [Xastir] Propose a new Xastir release?

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On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 9:12:55 AM PDT David Ranch wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> > If you're running Xastir on an RPi you will need to build from source
> > since the version of Xastir installed by raspian is ancient and
> > unfortunately was the version handed out to 100+ attendees of the RPi
> > workshop at SeaPac a few weeks ago.
> 
> This is a common issue with stable applications that live out of their
> SCM system and don't create official releases very often. Even with an
> official release being published, most distro package managers are just
> volunteers and they aren't always on top of when something new is
> available.  Regardless, step one is to get a new Xastir version released
> and then we can pursue with the Debian, Fedora, etc. package managers.
> 
> Do we think the current state of Xastir is worthy of an official release?

2.0.8 stable was released last July and is in most distributions,  including 
Debian on 
which Rasbian is based.   Imagine my surprise at the workshop when I found a 
version 
so old that the Internet maps didn't even work.  At the time I said I would 
look into why it 
wasn't picked up for the RPi but just haven't taken the time yet.  

As for a new release I think there are a couple of things in the latest that 
might make a 
release worthwhile but I'll let Curt speak up about that.
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Re: [Xastir] Map Fonts

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On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 8:14:38 AM PDT Curt, WE7U wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Jun 2017, Lee Bengston wrote:
> > The first thing I do is change the station text style to "Text on Black".
> > 
> > [Map - Configure - Station Text Style] via the menu. Changing the font
> > itself can be a little tricky, and may require additional fonts to be
> > installed.
> 
> I agree with the above. I run "text on black".
> 
> Took a quick run through xastir.org Wiki. Don't see anything about changing
> fonts in the HowTos, FAQ, or Tips & Tricks pages.
> 
> Guess we need to add a new one!
> 
> *) Install the "xfontsel" program. That's short for X Font Selector I
> believe.
> 
> *) Go to File -> Configure -> Fonts. You'll get a popup showing the
> different fonts. Make note of what's there just in case you want to get
> back. Maybe take a picture or a screenshot. You can also find these in the
> ~/.xastir/confif/xastir.cnf file. Here are mine:
> 
>   
> MAPS_LABEL_FONT_TINY:-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--14-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859
> -1
> MAPS_LABEL_FONT_SMALL:-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--14-*-*-*-*-*-iso885
> 9-1
> MAPS_LABEL_FONT_MEDIUM:-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--12-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859
> -1
> MAPS_LABEL_FONT_LARGE:-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--24-*-*-*-*-*-iso885
> 9-1
> MAPS_LABEL_FONT_HUGE:-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--24-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859
> -1
> MAPS_LABEL_FONT_BORDER:-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--14-*-*-*-*-*-iso88
> 59-1 SYSTEM_FIXED_FONT:fixed
>STATION_FONT:fixed
>ATV_ID_FONT:-*-helvetica-*-*-*-*-*-240-*-*-*-*-*-*
> 
> *) Click on the "Xfontsel" button on the right of one you want to change. An
> xfontsel window should appear with that font in it.
> 
> *) Change it at will to something you like.
> 
> *) Once you're happy, hit "select" in xfontsel2 and that font should get
> written back to the Xastir Fonts dialog.
> 
> *) Hit "OK" at the bottom of that dialog and it should get saved in Xastir.
> 
> Whether or not you have to restart Xastir to see it is another question (try
> it and find out, then report back).

Do everything Curt said plus make sure you're running a recent version of 
Xastir.  The 
handling of proportional fonts and font sizing was fixed about a year ago and 
as a result 
you will have more font choices. 

Personally I use droid sans, bold and medium.

If you're running Xastir on an RPi you will need to build from source since the 
version of 
Xastir installed by raspian is ancient and unfortunately was the version handed 
out to 
100+ attendees of the RPi workshop at SeaPac a few weeks ago. 
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Re: [Xastir] OSX sound setting

[Ken Koster]

On Sunday, April 16, 2017 2:33:05 PM PDT F1MHV wrote:
> Hello Group and Happy Easter,
> 
> FYI with OSX, within Xastir menu,  in File->Configure->Audio Alarms, replace
> Play by afplay to get sounds (as long as wav files are present in Sounds
> folder).
> 
> By the way, OSX is having an embedded text-to-speech, does there is a way to
> tel Xastir to use « Say » instead of « festival »?

The Xastir source contains a file 'macspeech.c' that adds support for OSX.  
Not having a Mac I don't know if it's compiled automatically,  but it is 
there.

Perhaps one of the regular Mac users can speak up.
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Re: [Xastir] Map Fonts

[Ken Koster]

On Tuesday, March 14, 2017 3:57:02 PM PDT Dexter N Muir wrote:
> > From: Jason KG4WSV 
> > To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion 
> > Subject: Re: [Xastir] Map Fonts
> > 
> > Message-ID:
> > 

Re: [Xastir] FIXED No iGate, please help

[Ken Koster]

On Thursday, February 16, 2017 11:44:36 AM PST Den wrote:
> Well, I stumbled on this anomaly and it looks like others have too where
> you can 'shoot yourself'. Get locked out and not be able to get back in.
> And so far, there is no recovery, except logging in as root. There are
> way too many shoddy tutorials on the web that lure users into pulling
> the trigger. "sudo su" then down the page "xstart" BAM

Yes,  far to many of those.
 
> I'd prefer to have more control over my guns rather than to have them go
> off unintentionally.

It's kind of like having a modern rifle and finding the instructions on the 
web for a muzzleloader.  Pour the powder in,  stuff down a bullet, pull the 
trigger and BAM.

> 
> Of course, change the Pi password and create a root password. Both
> should be strong. Don't think I advised differently? Actually am tired
> of helping people who did not take the simplest precautions right up front.
>
> KEN;
> 
> perhaps you could advise the new Pi user just how to protect
> themselves definitely NOT a popular subject on the web

I'm working on a couple of RPi/radio combos that need to be properly 
configured and I'll try to write up the details.  The problem is finding the 
ATU's to do it and staying focused...oh look 'Squirrel'...long enough.
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Re: [Xastir] FIXED No iGate, please help

[Ken Koster]

On Thursday, February 16, 2017 10:08:31 AM PST Jason KG4WSV wrote:
> > On Feb 16, 2017, at 9:19 AM, Den  wrote:
> > 
> > I'll let you explore how to create a root password, which I recommend.
> > Obviously those with more knowledge think we commoners, and the owner of
> > the Pi, should not use.
> Well, the problem was that you shot yourself in the foot by running
> something as root. Maybe they're onto something.
> 
> sudo is configured on by default for the pi user. Use of sudo instead of
> using a full root shell (su or sudo bash) or even worse logging in a root
> is considered best practice for security reasons. Using sudo allows minimal
> privilege escalation to accomplish a task and consequently minimizes risk.
> 
> If your pi is to be exposed to the internet, or maybe even on a home
> network, the passwords _should_ be changed for both the pi and root users.
> Default passwords are extremely insecure - there are days when I see over
> 10k brute force login attempts against a dozen or so systems, where
> attackers are looking for me and my users to rely on default or dumb
> passwords.

And one additional item to add to Jasons excellent comment.

Never, never, never put a pi on the internet without either putting it behind 
a firewall or installing the appropriate firewall rules on the pi itself.

Out of the box there is NO protection other than your password and those are 
far to easy to crack.

Put it behind your home router, or better yet put it on it's own subnet, and 
enable a port forward if you must have Internet access.  And for good measure, 
pick some other port number instead of the standard ssh port that everyone 
attacks and have that on the Internet facing side. 

The shear number of attacks on standard ports is incredible and if you have a 
system or two directly on the Internet, like I do, you put into place all 
kinds of additional tools to combat the bad guys.

For most casual use putting your RPi behind your home firewall and perhaps 
forwarding a port or two works,  but be careful.  There are far too many 
compromised devices out there and it's getting worse.
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Re: [Xastir] ADS-B feed

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On Sunday, December 11, 2016 10:32:12 AM PST Curt Mills wrote:
> IF they transmit tail number -or- flight number, and that's a big IF, then
> the Perl script will set the tactical call to that. Problem is, most don't
> transmit it, so we're left with just the transponder address. We can only
> work with the data they send out.

It may depend on local practices but in my experience they do usually send the 
flight/tail number.   Of the thousands of planes I track each week it's very 
rare to see one that is only the hex number and then it's usually just for a 
short while before it switches to the flight number.

It's when tracking ships with ais.pl that I seldom see the vessel name sent.

> On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 9:34 AM, F1MHV  wrote:
> > Good day group,
> > 
> > I am enjoying the ADS-B input into Xastir/OSX: great!
> > 
> > Meanwhile, could-it be possible to get in the mobile stations list
> > (View->Mobile Stations) the flight number (ex: BAW709) which is falling
> > actually into the Tactical Call, instead of transponder hex address? It
> > would be much easier to perform a search...
> > 
> > 73 de Cyril - DF1CHB/AM - F1MHV/M
> > 
> > 
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Re: [Xastir] droid fonts

[Ken Koster]

On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 10:39:06 AM PDT Jason KG4WSV wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Ken Koster <n7...@wetnet.net> wrote:
> > Since I've been mucking with xastir fonts I thought I'd give my suggestion
> > for a good one to
> > use for station and menu text.  I have no idea if this is available on
> > every distro but it is on
> > openSUSE.
> > 
> > Menu's:
> > -*-droid sans mono-*-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
> > 
> > Station Font
> > -*-droid sans mono-bold-r-*-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
> 
> Resurrecting an old thread, now that I've gotten around to looking at this.
> 
> I've installed these fonts on CentOS 6 and on raspbian, but have had no
> luck getting them to display with xastir, xterm or xfontsel.  On both
> systems, these are truetype fonts.
> 
> Any clues on how to make these available to xastir?

I would expect that if you installed the fonts with the package manager they 
should just show up.  In my distro (OpenSUSE) they're already installed as 
part of the basic system.

Xastir pulls the fonts from the underlying X system so if it's aware of them 
Xastir should show them with xfontsel.

Not being a CentOS user and never having added fonts to raspian I don't know 
for sure how to add them manually but a little googling got me this.

For Centos:
https://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/Deployment_Guide-en-US/s1-x-fonts.html

For debian (and presumably raspian)
https://wiki.debian.org/Fonts

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Re: [Xastir] distance / bearing configuration option non-operational?

[Ken Koster]

On Sunday, July 17, 2016 12:12:50 PM PDT David Ranch wrote:
> Hello Ken,
...
> > I did notice that on my display with my choice of fonts the text doesn't
> > fit in the field and I have to select it with the mouse and highlight to
> > see everything.The field should be wider,  so that seems to be a bug.
> Hmmm.. I'm not seeing that issue here on Centos 6.8.  Maybe you don't
> have all the required fonts installed at the OS level?

It's probably because I don't use the default fonts.   I have a high 
resolution display so the pixel size is small and the default fonts in Xastir 
display very very small.  I'm running 'droid sans 17'  and that doesn't fit 
the limited space reserved for those fields.

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Re: [Xastir] Mapquest Option going away

[Ken Koster]

On Sunday, July 3, 2016 9:23:30 AM PDT Lee Bengston wrote:
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2016-June/076106.html
> 
> Unfortunately it looks like the Mapquest option for Online Maps will be
> going away July 11th.

mapquest and mapquest-aerial just went away.

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Re: [Xastir] Font and Station Text style

[Ken Koster]

On Monday, April 11, 2016 12:49:57 AM PDT David A Aitcheson wrote:
> Ken,
> 
> Now that you have fixed the Font Problem... could you fix your "Security
> Signature" problem?

Mailman the mailing list software is modifiying parts of the messages and Curt 
and I are 
looking into it.  
My other mailing lists (sea...@wetnet.net) and others don't have the problem so 
it's a config 
issue somewhere.   My configs were done so far in the distant past I don't 
remember all the 
issues that went into refining so I can't just tell Curt what to change.
I am building an upgraded wetnet.net server so re-discovering the formulas is 
something I 
need to do so I have another incentive to figure it out.

> Unverified signature
> Public key 993A7B2E5138C42A used to verify signature
> 
> BAD signature from Ken Koster <n7...@wetnet.net>
> 
> Just in case you need to occupy your retirement some...

As if I do, I have more projects than ever.
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Re: [Xastir] Font and Station Text style

[Ken Koster]

On Sunday, April 10, 2016 9:51:35 PM PDT Tom Russo wrote:
> I had to make one small change (adding a declaration of "long
> get_text_width" to draw_symbols.h) to get it to compile with the default
> compiler on my system (clang), but otherwise it looks good.  I committed
> the change I had to make, since it is correct for all systems.
> 
> (the function was defined as returning long *after* it had been used in the
> file without being declared --- so the compiler was implicitly declaring it
> as returning an "int", then puking when it hit the function definition)

Thank you Tom.   Now that you mention it,  I forgot to check that in or mine 
wouldn't have built 
either.

I hope it's useful to others.  I needed the fonts to scale better so decided it 
was worth doing 
even though I hadn't intended to spend that much time.   
Then again,  what else is retirement for?
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Re: [Xastir] Font and Station Text style

[Ken Koster]

On Friday, April 8, 2016 8:00:05 PM PDT Ken Koster wrote:
> Checked in to CVS is an update to draw_symbol.c with the following:
> 
> For Station Text Styles the grey and black backgrounds now scale with
> changes in font size. The positions of text around the station symbol now
> also take into account the font size. Still no support for proportional
> fonts so you're best off using one of the fixed or mono fonts. Tested up to
> the ludicrous size of 100pt
> 
> I've been casting the xastir main screen to the chromecast on my big screen.
> The small fonts just wouldn't hack it and the big fonts overlapped and
> looked ugly.
> 
> So I fixed it.

Re-worked to handle proportional fonts and scale with font size changes.  To 
bad we don't 
scale the symbol but I'm not about to open that can of worms.

Tested with a view from Alaska to Cuba and over six thousand visible stations.  
All text 
elements turned on, and no easily observable memory issues.  Yes it took about 
four seconds 
to redraw when you switch Station Styles but displaying that many is a bit 
impractical.

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Re: [Xastir] Font and Station Text style

[Ken Koster]

On Sunday, April 10, 2016 6:33:17 PM PDT Jason KG4WSV wrote:
> > On Apr 10, 2016, at 12:52 PM, davidf4  wrote:
> > 
> > Curt was just trying to turn Xastir into a valid replacement for EMACS
> 
> Didn't I hear xastir v2 was going to be written in elisp?

Nah,   we're going to do it in an apl one liner.
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Re: [Xastir] Font and Station Text style

[Ken Koster]

On Sunday, April 10, 2016 3:15:36 PM PDT Tom Russo wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 02:13:11PM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron 
> collision of the 
 flavor, containing:
> > > I'll check it out.
> > 
> > You might just wait a bit, I'm checking out a version that supports
> > proportional fonts so the code in that area has changed.
> 
> Nah, already built the version fixing the memory leak, and will let it run
> to watch memory usage for several hours.  Best to check one bug fix at a
> time.
That's quite true.

I'm running an improved version now and will let it go for a few hours.  So far 
it looks good (or 
why would I say anything) and the cpu usage seems fine.

Zoomed out to see the whole country, all the display items in 'filter display' 
turned on and 
2000+ stations on screen and the cpu usage has only gone up a few percent.
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Re: [Xastir] Font and Station Text style

[Ken Koster]

On Sunday, April 10, 2016 7:42:02 AM PDT Tom Russo wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 09, 2016 at 07:07:43AM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron 
> collision of the 
 flavor, containing:
> > On Saturday, April 9, 2016 7:02:59 AM PDT Tom Russo wrote:
> > > On Fri, Apr 08, 2016 at 09:06:56PM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron
> > > collision of the> 
> >  flavor, containing:
> > > > On Friday, April 8, 2016 9:45:54 PM PDT Tom Russo wrote:
> > > > > Hmmm.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Just built this, and now the "last heard time" stands so far off to
> > > > > the
> > > > > left of a station that it almost doesn't look associated with the
> > > > > station.
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://pages.swcp.com/~russo/imgs/snapshot.png
> 
> It gets worse, though.
> 
> Ever since doing the CVS update with this font size issue, Xastir's been
> crashing somewhat randomly after hours of uptime, with no helpful
> information ("Killed" is all the shell says).  No core drop or anything. 
> The reason is hidden in the syslog:  "out of swap space."  This is on a
> machine with 24 GB of RAM and no swap, with nothing other than Xastir
> running at the times when it crashes.
> 
> So clearly there's a memory leak somewhere.  I don't have time to track it
> down myself.  So in my local copy, I've just reverted to revision 1.122 of
> draw_symbols.c.

I will check it out,  I have an idea where it might be and that I missed doing 
some magick that 
was done in the previous version.   
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Re: [Xastir] Font and Station Text style

[Ken Koster]

On Friday, April 8, 2016 9:45:54 PM PDT Tom Russo wrote:
> Hmmm.
> 
> Just built this, and now the "last heard time" stands so far off to the
> left of a station that it almost doesn't look associated with the station.
> 
> http://pages.swcp.com/~russo/imgs/snapshot.png

It looks like you're using a proportional font so the calculated widths are 
wrong.   Try turning 
on Text on Black and I bet the area between the time and the symbol is a big 
black area.  
The old code had it wrong too but because of the fixed offsets it wasn't as 
noticable.

Is this a show stopper for you?   Or am I going to have to work on figuring out 
how to calculate 
the whole text width.

> I coulda sworn it used to be closer.
> 
> On Fri, Apr 08, 2016 at 08:00:05PM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron 
> collision of the 
 flavor, containing:
> > Checked in to CVS is an update to draw_symbol.c with the following:
> > 
> > For Station Text Styles the grey and black backgrounds now scale with
> > changes in font size. The positions of text around the station symbol now
> > also take into account the font size. Still no support for proportional
> > fonts so you're best off using one of the fixed or mono fonts. Tested up
> > to the ludicrous size of 100pt
> > 
> > I've been casting the xastir main screen to the chromecast on my big
> > screen. The small fonts just wouldn't hack it and the big fonts
> > overlapped and looked ugly.
> > 
> > So I fixed it.
> > 
> > 
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Re: [Xastir] Another test: was originally: Re: Query on symbol ghosting

[Ken Koster]

On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 8:07:53 AM PDT Curt Mills wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 8:02 AM, Ken Koster <n7...@wetnet.net> wrote:
> > P.S.  Thanks to Curt I now have three dongles,  a plethora of connecting
> > cables, a multiport hub to handle them all, a discone antenna and a
> > splitter
> > to feed them with.It's just money...
> 
> I believe you meant "Because of Curt" or "Because of Curt's work on the
> Perl scripts", 'cuz I gave you NOTHING! As usual. ;-)

Picky, picky, picky...

It's now four dongles, two splitters, a distibution amp and the discone is now 
mounted under my tri-bander instead of leaning up against the house.

And three of them are in continuous use,  ADS-B on 1090Mhz and two on four 
different AIS frequencies.

The fourth is a funcube dongle for amsat and other stuff.

And all but the last one are Curt's fault. 

Plus all the time spent hacking your perl scripts, and making changes to 
Xastir (eventually to be checked in)

So there!

It's all fun stuff.
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Re: [Xastir] OSM tile handling improvements

[Ken Koster]

Curt, WE7U curt.w...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sat, 31 Jul 2010, David Flood wrote:

 So is the long url issue with libcurl fixed?  Or do people that have to
 use --without-libcurl to force the use of wget just out of luck?

Depends on your distribution.  It's been fixed in libcurl for a long
time but my OpenSuSE distribution still has the broken version.
Evidently not a lot of people run into the problem.  The good news
for me, if I choose to accept it, is that OpenSuSE-11.3 was released
recently (according to Ken).  I haven't installed it anywhere yet.

11.3 has libcurl 7.20.1 from April latest is 7.21.0

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Re: [Xastir] AGW under WINE

[Ken Koster]

On Thursday 30 April 2009 03:14:28 pm Tony Hunt wrote:
 Its all ok Curt,

 I am just fiddling. After googling a bit Ive found nothing on the subject
 of AGW and WINE as a combo. I am just curious really and someone else on
 this group was interested. I am actually using multiple TNCs. One is USB
 and one is RS232.

 In reality I am better off configuring AX25 up and using that.

 I am interested to know if anyone has an idea of how to make the USB TNC
 come up consistantly with the same device designation. Most of the time it
 is /dev/ttyUSB0 but if it gets unplugged it comes back up as /dev/ttyUSB1
 typically. 

That's  because the original port is still marked as in use for a few seconds
after you unplug it.   If you wait a little bit before plugging it back in 
it should come back as ttyUSB0 again.  At least that's the way all my
systems work.

 This is a pain with xastir in the interfaces menu. Is there a
 way it can be locked as a particular device consistantly ?

Theoretically you should be able to do this with udev rules except almost
all of the usb serial devices lack a unique ID that would let you create
a rule that would name them consistently.  

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Re: [Xastir] Any interest for custom Ubuntu Live CD

[Ken Koster]

On Wednesday 01 April 2009, Lee Bengston wrote:
 On 4/1/09, Jason KG4WSV kg4...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 11:31 PM, David djm...@bigpond.com wrote:
  Hi All...the URL for the Xubuntu/Xastir Live CD
  on the Wiki will not work.comes up cant connect..
 
  worked for me, I downloaded from the first URL and burned yesterday.
 
  Maybe a network issue between you and the download site?  Like another
  underwater fiber a victim of ship's-anchor attenuation? :|
 
  -Jason
  kg4wsv
 
 Both links just worked for me now.  The wetnet link will be
 significantly faster.  I haven't done anything to my server, which is
 the alternate link, but that doesn't mean my ISP could not have had
 some issues earlier.


Wetnet was down for a while when I managed to run it out of memory rebuilding
it's public keyserver database.  Since I was fighting the flu it took me a 
day to get around to getting the colo facility to reset it.

It's back up and flying again.

Ken,
N7IPB

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