[xmail] Re: Using SpamCop
Liron schrieb: Hello everybody, I see your discussions of spam blacklists, and I want to ask you this: Haven't you had complaints about messages that /should/ get through not doing so? When I used ORBS and MAPS and all of those, I had a lot of complaints from various people that my server would not accept their e-mails. Upon checking the logs I saw that the reason for that was that they were blacklisted in a spammer list. Once I removed the line telling XMail to check those lists everything strated to get through and I was happy. Perhaps I had done something wrong? Perhaps I've used the wrong lists? Anyone? No, you did all right. If someone is sitting on an IP address that is listed they get blocked, that is the business. They need to use their ISP's smtp forwarder or if this IP is listed they need to change their ISP. There are too many spammer friendly ISP's on earth so I don't want to accept or push their business, they all get blocked. If someone has a fix IP address and he is listed he is a spammer or at least he relays spam for other people, so it is all ok to block him. If the people have problems with me blocking them I always tell them that they shouldn't complain to me but to their ISP. Gerrit -- =^..^= - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Using SpamCop
You're correct, but there's one thing you can't ignore: If it's /your/ setting that causes the mail not to get where it should, then the users are going to say it's /your/ problem. And I got this even from the most tech-savvy of them. I feel I should give the best service to my users, and their losing messages isn't really good, even if in the long run I may be helping spammers do their nasty business. Gerrit P. Haase wrote: Liron schrieb: Hello everybody, I see your discussions of spam blacklists, and I want to ask you this: Haven't you had complaints about messages that /should/ get through not doing so? When I used ORBS and MAPS and all of those, I had a lot of complaints from various people that my server would not accept their e-mails. Upon checking the logs I saw that the reason for that was that they were blacklisted in a spammer list. Once I removed the line telling XMail to check those lists everything strated to get through and I was happy. Perhaps I had done something wrong? Perhaps I've used the wrong lists? Anyone? No, you did all right. If someone is sitting on an IP address that is listed they get blocked, that is the business. They need to use their ISP's smtp forwarder or if this IP is listed they need to change their ISP. There are too many spammer friendly ISP's on earth so I don't want to accept or push their business, they all get blocked. If someone has a fix IP address and he is listed he is a spammer or at least he relays spam for other people, so it is all ok to block him. If the people have problems with me blocking them I always tell them that they shouldn't complain to me but to their ISP. Gerrit - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Using SpamCop
I just have to get in on this discussion. As I agree and disagree with some comments from others. I run an internet service with about 1000 users. I have my email posted all over my web site so that my customers, and potential new business can reach me. I have to be VERY careful on who I blacklist for spam. I can just start putting in ip ranges or domains names. As an ISP, I know that every once in a blue moon somebody pulls a fast one on me and signs up for my service and sends out about a good 50 to 60 thousand messages. Now I don't want my domain name or IP ranges blacklisted beacause of this on guy. I am currenty running red hat using sendmail and qpopper. I want to swith to xmail for easier for two major reasons: 1) I will be on windows, which is where this particular application should be, and 2) I can easier implement virus protection. Unfortunately, there is one major thing holding me back, SPAMASSASSIN. This program works like a dream to fight spam. I normally get about 70 to 80 Spams a day, but with SpamAssassin, this is cust down to about 2 or 3. For those of you that aren't familiar with it, SpamAssassin works on a ranking system and performs a number of checks on incoming mail, based on the score, it can determine whether a message is spam. It works VERY WELL. The only problem, it has not been ported to windows. I here that DeerSoft has ported this to windows but only for the client side and not the server. I guess I may just have to bite the bullet and go to which is more important, and right now that is Virus Filtering. Any comments anyone, or any other windows spam solutions. -- Jeff Jarchow QCI Internet http://www.qcinet.net/ Does anyone know of a spam blacklist that lists domains/servers rather than IP ranges? I think that while it may be a bit less effective, it will lower the amout of complaints all in all. Oh, and can XMail interface with such lists? Henrik Steffen wrote: Dear Peter, this is of course exactly my opinion. But talking about the - in German so-called DAU (dümmster anzunehmender User - most stupid user one can imagine) the DAU will in 98 % of the cases contact US, because OUR email-address doesn't work, and still for the DAU most of the other addresses world-wide work. So they think it's our fault - and it's quite hard to convince them that it's the fault of THEIR provider and they'll have to contact him instead. Mit freundlichem Gruß Henrik Steffen Geschäftsführer top concepts Internetmarketing GmbH Am Steinkamp 7 - D-21684 Stade - Germany http://www.topconcepts.com Tel. +49 4141 991230 mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax. +49 4141 991233 24h-Support Hotline: +49 1908 34697 (EUR 1.86/Min,topc) System-Partner gesucht: http://www.franchise.city-map.de Handelsregister: AG Stade HRB 5811 - UstId: DE 213645563 - Original Message - From: Peter Lindeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 11:15 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: Using SpamCop Henrik Steffen wrote: and yes: we do still have complaints from people that can't send mail to us, or even worse: to our customers. We are hosting about 2.000 mail-domains on our mailserver. Well I think it is very simply. If a person can't mail he/she should complain at their provider. They screwed up so they should fix the troubles. This is the only way to fight spam. The more people use it this way the earlier spam belongs to the past. -- Groeten, Peter -- Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie!'... till you can find a rock. --- --- Heb je een Sony Digital video camera ? --- Kijk eens op http://www.dvin.org --- Kijk ook op http://www.lindeman.org --- ICQ 22383596 --- Uptime lindeman.org : 1 days, 6 hours and 10 minutes, 0 users logged in. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Using SpamCop
why not use an antivirus tool for linux with xmail? we are using both trendmicro viruswall and h+b edv's antivir (www.antivir.de) in a cascading virus-check perl-script which works excellent. Mit freundlichem Gruß Henrik Steffen Geschäftsführer top concepts Internetmarketing GmbH Am Steinkamp 7 - D-21684 Stade - Germany http://www.topconcepts.com Tel. +49 4141 991230 mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax. +49 4141 991233 24h-Support Hotline: +49 1908 34697 (EUR 1.86/Min,topc) System-Partner gesucht: http://www.franchise.city-map.de Handelsregister: AG Stade HRB 5811 - UstId: DE 213645563 - Original Message - From: Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 2:31 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: Using SpamCop I just have to get in on this discussion. As I agree and disagree with some comments from others. I run an internet service with about 1000 users. I have my email posted all over my web site so that my customers, and potential new business can reach me. I have to be VERY careful on who I blacklist for spam. I can just start putting in ip ranges or domains names. As an ISP, I know that every once in a blue moon somebody pulls a fast one on me and signs up for my service and sends out about a good 50 to 60 thousand messages. Now I don't want my domain name or IP ranges blacklisted beacause of this on guy. I am currenty running red hat using sendmail and qpopper. I want to swith to xmail for easier for two major reasons: 1) I will be on windows, which is where this particular application should be, and 2) I can easier implement virus protection. Unfortunately, there is one major thing holding me back, SPAMASSASSIN. This program works like a dream to fight spam. I normally get about 70 to 80 Spams a day, but with SpamAssassin, this is cust down to about 2 or 3. For those of you that aren't familiar with it, SpamAssassin works on a ranking system and performs a number of checks on incoming mail, based on the score, it can determine whether a message is spam. It works VERY WELL. The only problem, it has not been ported to windows. I here that DeerSoft has ported this to windows but only for the client side and not the server. I guess I may just have to bite the bullet and go to which is more important, and right now that is Virus Filtering. Any comments anyone, or any other windows spam solutions. -- Jeff Jarchow QCI Internet http://www.qcinet.net/ Does anyone know of a spam blacklist that lists domains/servers rather than IP ranges? I think that while it may be a bit less effective, it will lower the amout of complaints all in all. Oh, and can XMail interface with such lists? Henrik Steffen wrote: Dear Peter, this is of course exactly my opinion. But talking about the - in German so-called DAU (dümmster anzunehmender User - most stupid user one can imagine) the DAU will in 98 % of the cases contact US, because OUR email-address doesn't work, and still for the DAU most of the other addresses world-wide work. So they think it's our fault - and it's quite hard to convince them that it's the fault of THEIR provider and they'll have to contact him instead. Mit freundlichem Gruß Henrik Steffen Geschäftsführer top concepts Internetmarketing GmbH Am Steinkamp 7 - D-21684 Stade - Germany http://www.topconcepts.com Tel. +49 4141 991230 mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax. +49 4141 991233 24h-Support Hotline: +49 1908 34697 (EUR 1.86/Min,topc) System-Partner gesucht: http://www.franchise.city-map.de Handelsregister: AG Stade HRB 5811 - UstId: DE 213645563 - Original Message - From: Peter Lindeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 11:15 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: Using SpamCop Henrik Steffen wrote: and yes: we do still have complaints from people that can't send mail to us, or even worse: to our customers. We are hosting about 2.000 mail-domains on our mailserver. Well I think it is very simply. If a person can't mail he/she should complain at their provider. They screwed up so they should fix the troubles. This is the only way to fight spam. The more people use it this way the earlier spam belongs to the past. -- Groeten, Peter -- Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice
[xmail] Re: Using SpamCop
Can you provide more info (off this list [EMAIL PROTECTED], as this list is probably more for xmail stuff ). I have tried implementing amavis but that has used up about 2 weeks of my time and I still haven't gotten it implemented correctly. -- Jeff Jarchow QCI Internet http://www.qcinet.net/ why not use an antivirus tool for linux with xmail? we are using both trendmicro viruswall and h+b edv's antivir (www.antivir.de) in a cascading virus-check perl-script which works excellent. Mit freundlichem Gruß Henrik Steffen Geschäftsführer top concepts Internetmarketing GmbH Am Steinkamp 7 - D-21684 Stade - Germany http://www.topconcepts.com Tel. +49 4141 991230 mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax. +49 4141 991233 24h-Support Hotline: +49 1908 34697 (EUR 1.86/Min,topc) System-Partner gesucht: http://www.franchise.city-map.de Handelsregister: AG Stade HRB 5811 - UstId: DE 213645563 - Original Message - From: Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 2:31 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: Using SpamCop I just have to get in on this discussion. As I agree and disagree with some comments from others. I run an internet service with about 1000 users. I have my email posted all over my web site so that my customers, and potential new business can reach me. I have to be VERY careful on who I blacklist for spam. I can just start putting in ip ranges or domains names. As an ISP, I know that every once in a blue moon somebody pulls a fast one on me and signs up for my service and sends out about a good 50 to 60 thousand messages. Now I don't want my domain name or IP ranges blacklisted beacause of this on guy. I am currenty running red hat using sendmail and qpopper. I want to swith to xmail for easier for two major reasons: 1) I will be on windows, which is where this particular application should be, and 2) I can easier implement virus protection. Unfortunately, there is one major thing holding me back, SPAMASSASSIN. This program works like a dream to fight spam. I normally get about 70 to 80 Spams a day, but with SpamAssassin, this is cust down to about 2 or 3. For those of you that aren't familiar with it, SpamAssassin works on a ranking system and performs a number of checks on incoming mail, based on the score, it can determine whether a message is spam. It works VERY WELL. The only problem, it has not been ported to windows. I here that DeerSoft has ported this to windows but only for the client side and not the server. I guess I may just have to bite the bullet and go to which is more important, and right now that is Virus Filtering. Any comments anyone, or any other windows spam solutions. -- Jeff Jarchow QCI Internet http://www.qcinet.net/ Does anyone know of a spam blacklist that lists domains/servers rather than IP ranges? I think that while it may be a bit less effective, it will lower the amout of complaints all in all. Oh, and can XMail interface with such lists? Henrik Steffen wrote: Dear Peter, this is of course exactly my opinion. But talking about the - in German so-called DAU (dümmster anzunehmender User - most stupid user one can imagine) the DAU will in 98 % of the cases contact US, because OUR email-address doesn't work, and still for the DAU most of the other addresses world-wide work. So they think it's our fault - and it's quite hard to convince them that it's the fault of THEIR provider and they'll have to contact him instead. Mit freundlichem Gruß Henrik Steffen Geschäftsführer top concepts Internetmarketing GmbH Am Steinkamp 7 - D-21684 Stade - Germany http://www.topconcepts.com Tel. +49 4141 991230 mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax. +49 4141 991233 24h-Support Hotline: +49 1908 34697 (EUR 1.86/Min,topc) System-Partner gesucht: http://www.franchise.city-map.de Handelsregister: AG Stade HRB 5811 - UstId: DE 213645563 - Original Message - From: Peter Lindeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 11:15 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: Using SpamCop Henrik Steffen wrote: and yes: we do still have complaints from people that can't send mail
[xmail] Re: Using SpamCop
GmbH Am Steinkamp 7 - D-21684 Stade - Germany http://www.topconcepts.com Tel. +49 4141 991230 mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax. +49 4141 991233 24h-Support Hotline: +49 1908 34697 (EUR 1.86/Min,topc) System-Partner gesucht: http://www.franchise.city-map.de Handelsregister: AG Stade HRB 5811 - UstId: DE 213645563 - Original Message - From: Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 2:41 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: Using SpamCop Can you provide more info (off this list [EMAIL PROTECTED], as this list is probably more for xmail stuff ). I have tried implementing amavis but that has used up about 2 weeks of my time and I still haven't gotten it implemented correctly. -- Jeff Jarchow QCI Internet http://www.qcinet.net/ why not use an antivirus tool for linux with xmail? we are using both trendmicro viruswall and h+b edv's antivir (www.antivir.de) in a cascading virus-check perl-script which works excellent. Mit freundlichem Gruß Henrik Steffen Geschäftsführer top concepts Internetmarketing GmbH Am Steinkamp 7 - D-21684 Stade - Germany http://www.topconcepts.com Tel. +49 4141 991230 mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax. +49 4141 991233 24h-Support Hotline: +49 1908 34697 (EUR 1.86/Min,topc) System-Partner gesucht: http://www.franchise.city-map.de Handelsregister: AG Stade HRB 5811 - UstId: DE 213645563 - Original Message - From: Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 2:31 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: Using SpamCop I just have to get in on this discussion. As I agree and disagree with some comments from others. I run an internet service with about 1000 users. I have my email posted all over my web site so that my customers, and potential new business can reach me. I have to be VERY careful on who I blacklist for spam. I can just start putting in ip ranges or domains names. As an ISP, I know that every once in a blue moon somebody pulls a fast one on me and signs up for my service and sends out about a good 50 to 60 thousand messages. Now I don't want my domain name or IP ranges blacklisted beacause of this on guy. I am currenty running red hat using sendmail and qpopper. I want to swith to xmail for easier for two major reasons: 1) I will be on windows, which is where this particular application should be, and 2) I can easier implement virus protection. Unfortunately, there is one major thing holding me back, SPAMASSASSIN. This program works like a dream to fight spam. I normally get about 70 to 80 Spams a day, but with SpamAssassin, this is cust down to about 2 or 3. For those of you that aren't familiar with it, SpamAssassin works on a ranking system and performs a number of checks on incoming mail, based on the score, it can determine whether a message is spam. It works VERY WELL. The only problem, it has not been ported to windows. I here that DeerSoft has ported this to windows but only for the client side and not the server. I guess I may just have to bite the bullet and go to which is more important, and right now that is Virus Filtering. Any comments anyone, or any other windows spam solutions. -- Jeff Jarchow QCI Internet http://www.qcinet.net/ Does anyone know of a spam blacklist that lists domains/servers rather than IP ranges? I think that while it may be a bit less effective, it will lower the amout of complaints all in all. Oh, and can XMail interface with such lists? Henrik Steffen wrote: Dear Peter, this is of course exactly my opinion. But talking about the - in German so-called DAU (dümmster anzunehmender User - most stupid user one can imagine) the DAU will in 98 % of the cases contact US, because OUR email-address doesn't work, and still for the DAU most of the other addresses world-wide work. So they think it's our fault - and it's quite hard to convince them that it's the fault of THEIR provider and they'll have to contact him instead. Mit freundlichem Gruß Henrik Steffen Geschäftsführer top concepts Internetmarketing GmbH Am Steinkamp 7 - D-21684 Stade - Germany
[xmail] Re: Using SpamCop
This looks good. But I was under the ipression that emais had to be
unencoded and sometimes unzip/tarred/gzipped/etc. before scanning them.
Maybe not true. Are you finding that virus scanners will detect viruses in
just about any emails? If so, this would be easy to setup with a quick
procmail script on linux.
Jeff Jarchow
QCI Internet
http://www.qcinet.net/
- Original Message -
From: Henrik Steffen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 9:02 AM
Subject: [xmail] Re: Using SpamCop
Hi,
I'll post it to the list, because virus-checking has often been an issue
here before...
find below my /var/MailRoot/avfilter/filter.pl with German and English
Virus-reports for the sender and the addressee. First, every mail is
filtered by Antivir ... if antivir says, there's no virus, the mail
will be filtered by Trendmicro's viruswall, too.
--snip--
#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;
my $fileName = $ARGV[0];
my $dirName = $fileName.scan/;
my $sender = $ARGV[1];
my $rcpt = $ARGV[2];
mkdir($dirName, 0777);
system(/var/MailRoot/avfilter/ripmime -d $dirName -i $fileName);
my $retCode = system(/usr/bin/antivir -z -s $dirName/*
$fileName..report);
$retCode /= 256;
my @report;
if ($retCode != 0) {
open(IN, $fileName..report);
@report = IN;
close(IN);
system('rm', $fileName..report);
} else {
$retCode = system(/etc/iscan/vscan $dirName/* $fileName..report);
$retCode /= 256;
if ($retCode != 0) {
open(IN, $fileName..report);
@report = IN;
close(IN);
system('rm', $fileName..report);
}
}
system('rm', '-r', $dirName);
if ($retCode!=0) {
my $postmaster = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]';
open(MAIL, |/usr/lib/sendmail -t);
print MAILEND;
To: $sender
From: $postmaster
Subject: Vorsicht, Virus!
Hallo, (see English text below)
Ihre Nachricht an $rcpt wurde abgelehnt!
Unser Viren-Scanner hat einen VIRUS in Ihrer eMail entdeckt.
Ihre eMail wurde gestoppt. Der Empfänger wurde benachrichtigt.
Bitte überprüfen Sie Ihr System, und senden Sie die Nachricht
erneut. Vielen Dank!
END
open(MAIL2, |/usr/lib/sendmail -t);
print MAIL2END;
To: $rcpt
From: $postmaster
Subject: Virus abgefangen!
Hallo, (see English text below)
eine Nachricht an $rcpt wurde abgelehnt!
Der Absender mit der Adresse $sender hat
versucht Ihnen einen Virus zu schicken. Dieser wurde von unserem
System für Sie abgefangen und unschädlich gemacht.
END
for my $i(0..$#report) {
if ($report[$i]=~/VIRUS\: file contains code of the virus \'(.+)\'/) {
print MAIL AntiVir hat den Virus '$1' entdeckt!\n;
print MAIL2 AntiVir hat den Virus '$1' entdeckt!\n;
} elsif ($report[$i]=~/\*\*\* Found virus (.+) in/) {
print MAIL Die Trendmicro Viruswall hat den Virus '$1' entdeckt!\n;
print MAIL2 Die Trendmicro Viruswall hat den Virus '$1' entdeckt!\n;
}
}
print MAILEND;
Wir leisten Antivirus-Hilfe unter: Tel. +49 1908 34697
(Technische Hotline von top concepts für EUR 1.86 pro Minute)
Um Sie zukünftig vor Virusbefall in dieser Art zu schützen,
können wir Ihnen eine gesicherte Mailbox auf unserem Server
anbieten. Dadurch werden eingehende eMails für Sie auf Viren
gefiltert, BEVOR diese überhaupt Ihren Rechner erreichen.
Dabei kommen zwei professionelle Antivirus-Programme für Sie
gleichzeitig zum Einsatz: AntiVir und die Trendmicro Viruswall.
Sollte dies für Sie interessant sein, so wenden Sie sich bitte
an Ihren city-map Partner vor Ort (siehe http://www.city-map.ag)
oder an top concepts in Stade, http://www.topconcepts.de
Dem Thema Sicherheit haben wir eine eigene Webseite gewidmet,
die Sie unter http://www.sicherinsnetz.de aufrufen können.
END
print MAIL2END;
--
Hello,
a message to $rcpt was rejected!
The sender with the address $sender has
tried to send you a virus. The virus was detected by our system
and has been destroyed before your system could be infected.
END
print MAILEND;
--
Hello,
Your message to $rcpt was rejected!
Our eMail-server has detected a VIRUS in your eMail!
Your eMail has been stopped. The addressee has been notified.
Please check your system for viruses and try to send your
message again. Thank you!
END
for my $i(0..$#report) {
if ($report[$i]=~/VIRUS\: file contains code of the virus \'(.+)\'/) {
print MAIL AntiVir found code of the virus '$1'!\n;
print MAIL2 AntiVir found code of the virus '$1'!\n;
} elsif ($report[$i]=~/\*\*\* Found virus (.+) in/) {
print MAIL The Trendmicro Viruswall found code of the virus: '$1'!\n;
print MAIL2 The Trendmicro Viruswall found code of the virus: '$1'!\n;
}
}
my $signatur=END;
--
Mit freundlichem Gruß / Kind regards
Virus-protected eMail-server at mail.city-map.de
top concepts Internetmarketing GmbH
Am Steinkamp 7 - D-21684 Stade - Germany
http://www.topconcepts.com Tel. +49 4141 991230
mail: info\@topconcepts.com
[xmail] Re: Using SpamCop
Um. No. No trouble at all. If mail is not getting through it is because that IP address is listed with one of the databases, almost certainly meaning that their mail server is (or was) acting as an open relay. If that server is not currently an open relay, their admin needs to go to the applicable database's site and resubmit the IP for testing and, should the test show it to not be an open relay, it will be removed from their database. JayD (Who is currently working on making sure he isn't listed incorrectly after his own open relay issues -- OPEN RELAY IS BAD!!) Hello everybody, I see your discussions of spam blacklists, and I want to ask you this: Haven't you had complaints about messages that /should/ get through not doing so? When I used ORBS and MAPS and all of those, I had a lot of complaints from various people that my server would not accept their e-mails. Upon checking the logs I saw that the reason for that was that they were blacklisted in a spammer list. Once I removed the line telling XMail to check those lists everything strated to get through and I was happy. Perhaps I had done something wrong? Perhaps I've used the wrong lists? Anyone? -Liron. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you, Yes, you are right, works great. In 5 minutes Xmail refused 5 spam messages. Rich... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Peter Lindeman Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 5:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: Using SpamCop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could someone give me an example of how I would setup XMail to use the SpamCop blacklist. It looks like it's as simple as putting a line in the server.tab file, but I'm at a loss on how to begin. Could anyone recommend other blacklists that would be better to use Than SpamCop and give me an example of how to set them up. This is how I use it on the server : CustMapsList relays.ordb.org.:0,bl.spamcop.net.:0,relays.osirusoft.com.:0 Works great. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Using SpamCop
Henrik Steffen wrote: and yes: we do still have complaints from people that can't send mail to us, or even worse: to our customers. We are hosting about 2.000 mail-domains on our mailserver. Well I think it is very simply. If a person can't mail he/she should complain at their provider. They screwed up so they should fix the troubles. This is the only way to fight spam. The more people use it this way the earlier spam belongs to the past. -- Groeten, Peter -- Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie!'... till you can find a rock. --- --- Heb je een Sony Digital video camera ? --- Kijk eens op http://www.dvin.org --- Kijk ook op http://www.lindeman.org --- ICQ 22383596 --- Uptime lindeman.org : 1 days, 6 hours and 10 minutes, 0 users logged in. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Using SpamCop
Dear Peter, this is of course exactly my opinion. But talking about the - in German so-called DAU (dümmster anzunehmender User - most stupid user one can imagine) the DAU will in 98 % of the cases contact US, because OUR email-address doesn't work, and still for the DAU most of the other addresses world-wide work. So they think it's our fault - and it's quite hard to convince them that it's the fault of THEIR provider and they'll have to contact him instead. Mit freundlichem Gruß Henrik Steffen Geschäftsführer top concepts Internetmarketing GmbH Am Steinkamp 7 - D-21684 Stade - Germany http://www.topconcepts.com Tel. +49 4141 991230 mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax. +49 4141 991233 24h-Support Hotline: +49 1908 34697 (EUR 1.86/Min,topc) System-Partner gesucht: http://www.franchise.city-map.de Handelsregister: AG Stade HRB 5811 - UstId: DE 213645563 - Original Message - From: Peter Lindeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 11:15 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: Using SpamCop Henrik Steffen wrote: and yes: we do still have complaints from people that can't send mail to us, or even worse: to our customers. We are hosting about 2.000 mail-domains on our mailserver. Well I think it is very simply. If a person can't mail he/she should complain at their provider. They screwed up so they should fix the troubles. This is the only way to fight spam. The more people use it this way the earlier spam belongs to the past. -- Groeten, Peter -- Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie!'... till you can find a rock. --- --- Heb je een Sony Digital video camera ? --- Kijk eens op http://www.dvin.org --- Kijk ook op http://www.lindeman.org --- ICQ 22383596 --- Uptime lindeman.org : 1 days, 6 hours and 10 minutes, 0 users logged in. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Using SpamCop
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could someone give me an example of how I would setup XMail to use the SpamCop blacklist. It looks like it's as simple as putting a line in the server.tab file, but I'm at a loss on how to begin. Could anyone recommend other blacklists that would be better to use Than SpamCop and give me an example of how to set them up. This is how I use it on the server : CustMapsList relays.ordb.org.:0,bl.spamcop.net.:0,relays.osirusoft.com.:0 Works great. -- Groeten, Peter -- Windows is known for idiot and Linux is for hackers ? --- --- Heb je een Sony Digital video camera ? --- Kijk eens op http://www.dvin.org --- Kijk ook op http://www.lindeman.org --- ICQ 22383596 --- Uptime lindeman.org : 0 days, 6 hours and 24 minutes, 0 users logged in. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Using SpamCop
Thank you, Yes, you are right, works great. In 5 minutes Xmail refused 5 spam messages. Rich... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Peter Lindeman Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 5:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: Using SpamCop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could someone give me an example of how I would setup XMail to use the SpamCop blacklist. It looks like it's as simple as putting a line in the server.tab file, but I'm at a loss on how to begin. Could anyone recommend other blacklists that would be better to use Than SpamCop and give me an example of how to set them up. This is how I use it on the server : CustMapsList relays.ordb.org.:0,bl.spamcop.net.:0,relays.osirusoft.com.:0 Works great. -- Groeten, Peter -- Windows is known for idiot and Linux is for hackers ? --- --- Heb je een Sony Digital video camera ? --- Kijk eens op http://www.dvin.org --- Kijk ook op http://www.lindeman.org --- ICQ 22383596 --- Uptime lindeman.org : 0 days, 6 hours and 24 minutes, 0 users logged in. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
