Re: Almost happy with Yojimbo the way it is

[Jan Rychter]

Steve Kalkwarf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm not singling out Rhet, but there are several ideas embodied in this
> paragraph that bear comment:
>
>> If someone from BareBones does pipe in, it's usually to say "We're
>> never going to add that feature.  See previous post..."  This compares
>> poorly to several other indie-Mac software lists I'm on (such as the
>> forum for Leap and Yep, both excellent applications:
>> http://www.ironicsoftware.com/) where the developer is happy to get
>> feedback on what users actually want and participates in the dialogue.
>
> Let me start off by saying no matter what I, or another Bare Bones
> representative says, a large number of people will be unhappy. For years
> we said "Thanks for the feedback, and we'll consider adding this
> functionality". Then, email every time we shipped an update we'd get a
> "reminder" email, asking why the feature wasn't in that version. Other
> people waited and waited for the feature to arrive, but it wasn't going
> to. I thought that was unfair.
>
> Now, if a feature request has a known disposition, we generally share
> that answer. Nested folders? No. If you _have_ to have that feature, you
> will be better off elsewhere. Does this compare "poorly" with other
> companies? I don't know. I prefer the honest answer, whether it makes
> people happy or not.
>
> Another assumption (again, not picking on Rhet) is that implementing
> every feature request is a good idea. If you take a step back and look
> at the types of requests people make, with rare exception (nested
> folders, smart collections, better tag management) they are particular
> to the requester's existing workflow. The "one feature I have to have"
> is not the one feature you have to have, or Charlie has to have, or
> probably more than a couple people have to have.
>
> The implied assumption that tends to go along with almost any request is
> that adding feature X doesn't increase the complexity of Yojimbo. That
> is untrue.

[...]

Steve,

That's a good reply and I agree with most of what you wrote. One thing I
fail to understand, though, is why you refuse to fix minor things, which
are really omissions or bugs. Things that really matter to some people
and that absolutely do not increase the complexity of the application.

I took the time and effort to write down my suggestions about a year ago
(see 
http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?3611&-session=listsearch:55DE58130c4200D374MPR2916775)
I did this because you were encouraging suggestions. So far, 100% of my
suggestions have been ignored. Now, I can live without the advanced
feature requests (tag cloud like in Yep), but why oh why do you ignore
the keyboard navigation issues? As a reminder, here is what I wrote:

  First, I have a few suggestions related to using Yojimbo with the
  keyboard. I believe the program should be fully usable without a
  mouse. This is especially important if Yojimbo is brought up using the
  F6 key (search within Yojimbo), because if I brought the program up
  using a key I probably want to use the keyboard to access information
  within it as well. As it is now, I have to reach for the mouse.
  
  For an excellent example of a program usable without a mouse see the
  Vienna RSS reader, in particular observe how cursor keys and TAB behave
  there.
  
  TAB order:
  
  When the focus is in the collections panel, pressing tab should take me
  to the list of documents, not to the little buttons below the
  collections panel.
  
  From the search box pressing TAB should take me to the list of documents
  found, not to the list of collections. Next TAB should go to the title,
  then tags, then content (NOT to the rarely used "Encrypt" button!)
  
  Pressing Return after entering something in the search box should also
  display the results and take me to the first result.
  
  When creating new documents using the little dialog box in the corner of
  the screen, I don't want to TAB over the little arrow button next to the
  "Name", I want to go straight to tags and then the text.

Now, a year and several Yojimbo versions later, we still have the same
TAB order issues (BTW, they also apply to the quick entry panel). You
can't reasonably argue that they are reasonable or that changing the TAB
order makes Yojimbo more difficult to use. I also believe these changes
are not difficult to implement.

I dare you to try using Yojimbo without a mouse. Put a quarter in a coin
box every time you have to reach for the mouse to do something or every
time an extra key press is needed. See how much money ends up in the box.

--J.

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The Real Issue With Nested Folders and Multiple Databases.

[Luis Roca]

Lorin and Kenneth identified the real issue very well. I think a lot of
the discomfort with not having nested folders is due to a habit of
putting off properly identifying an item. We keep bringing up the book
“Getting Things Done” but the idea of nested folders and multiple
library databases are in stark contrast to the very first steps of GTD.
Folders poorly identify information. At best they just create more
inboxes. Because you haven’t properly identified the specific item you
will waste more time searching six weeks down the road when you need to
produce a receipt, or email the photo of your family eating pizza in
Times Square to your sister. Tagging is a far more fluid way to identify
something at the very moment it enters your system.

Folders don’t address how a group of individuals identify with a piece
of information. You may remember the photo by the name of the
‘Pizzeria’. Your wife may remember it by ‘Times Square’. Your kids might
type a search for ‘extra cheese’. Do none of those make sense to you?
They don’t have to. They only need to be meaningful to the person
searching for the information at that point in time. Anyone and everyone
at home and at work can identify information any way they want without
stepping on someone else’s toes or creating numerous folders and
versions of the same file. This is why I find it a little strange
whenever someone posts a need to limit the tags they use. Why?

Yojimbo is a simple, transparent, semantic based information archiving
and retrieving application. It implements a contemporary view of
organization. Continue to use nested folders if you must. I would
strongly recommend beginning a trasition to a semantic based
organizational system.

Have a great weekend everyone! Luis

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Re: The Real Issue With Nested Folders and Multiple Databases.

[Brian Zimmer]

Perfect.  I find tagging and fast searching are the only features I
need (though there are some bugs with search).  I chose Yojimbo
because it *didn't* have a cluttered hierarchy of folders.  I use the
same model of tag-and-search for GMail, Expression Media and even my
Mac -- I have no dock, I just use Spotlight to launch my apps.  I
find, for me, this is definitely the most productive and reliable way
for GTD.

thanks, brian

On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 7:57 AM, Luis Roca
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Lorin and Kenneth identified the real issue very well. I think a lot of
>  the discomfort with not having nested folders is due to a habit of
>  putting off properly identifying an item. We keep bringing up the book
>  "Getting Things Done" but the idea of nested folders and multiple
>  library databases are in stark contrast to the very first steps of GTD.
>  Folders poorly identify information. At best they just create more
>  inboxes. Because you haven't properly identified the specific item you
>  will waste more time searching six weeks down the road when you need to
>  produce a receipt, or email the photo of your family eating pizza in
>  Times Square to your sister. Tagging is a far more fluid way to identify
>  something at the very moment it enters your system.
>
>  Folders don't address how a group of individuals identify with a piece
>  of information. You may remember the photo by the name of the
>  'Pizzeria'. Your wife may remember it by 'Times Square'. Your kids might
>  type a search for 'extra cheese'. Do none of those make sense to you?
>  They don't have to. They only need to be meaningful to the person
>  searching for the information at that point in time. Anyone and everyone
>  at home and at work can identify information any way they want without
>  stepping on someone else's toes or creating numerous folders and
>  versions of the same file. This is why I find it a little strange
>  whenever someone posts a need to limit the tags they use. Why?
>
>  Yojimbo is a simple, transparent, semantic based information archiving
>  and retrieving application. It implements a contemporary view of
>  organization. Continue to use nested folders if you must. I would
>  strongly recommend beginning a trasition to a semantic based
>  organizational system.
>
>  Have a great weekend everyone! Luis
>
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Re: The Real Issue With Nested Folders and Multiple Databases.

[david]

Perhaps there's a context within which the paragraph below explains  
how tags are superior to folders but it eludes me. I'm not arguing  
that tags don't have value and aren't at times more valuable than  
folders, but this paragraph doesn't explain it to me.



Folders don’t address how a group of individuals identify with a piece
of information. You may remember the photo by the name of the
‘Pizzeria’. Your wife may remember it by ‘Times Square’. Your kids  
might

type a search for ‘extra cheese’. Do none of those make sense to you?
They don’t have to. They only need to be meaningful to the person
searching for the information at that point in time. Anyone and  
everyone

at home and at work can identify information any way they want without
stepping on someone else’s toes or creating numerous folders and
versions of the same file. This is why I find it a little strange
whenever someone posts a need to limit the tags they use. Why?



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Import doc files to Yojimbo

[Krzysztof Maj]

Hello,
Why when I moved doc file to the Yojimbo library I will get .rtf file?  
Is a internal .doc->.rtf converter or what? The problem is when I  
export once again this file and open it in MS Word 2008 I lost all the  
formating inside the file and somethimes also polish diacritics. So  
how to manage .doc files, convert them do the PDF or just Yojimbo is  
not for this kind of files?


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Re: Happy with Yojimbo the way it is!

[Krzysztof Maj]

On 2008-05-01, at 04:44, Charlie Garrison wrote:


Good afternoon,

On 30/4/08 at 5:31 PM -0400, Luis Roca <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:



With that said I’m going to make a non-feature request to the Bare
Bones/Yojimbo team : Please don’t include a nested folder feature  
in the

next or any future releases of Yojimbo. PLEASE!!!


How refreshing, thanks Luis.  :-)

I'm also another very satisfied Yojimbo user. When I first started  
using it, I was creating collections and diligently filing new  
items. I never use collections now. The search field is way more  
flexible and very quick. I just add items to Y and trust they will  
be there when I need them.


The content/indexing of items is generally enough to search on (for  
bookmarks I will often grab the first paragraph of the page to add  
to comment field). And even though I was using tags religiously,  
I've even stopped doing that expect for rare circumstances.


Yojimbo is my knowledge base, and I've never had any trouble finding  
info I need. Well, that's not true, I have had problems but it's my  
own fault for not having moved everything from DevonTHINK yet. So if  
it's info from that long ago, I fire up DevonTHINK, find the info I  
was missing, and add it to Yojimbo.


And for everyone else who feels they MUST continue asking for the  
kitchen sink, Please read the last two lines of the sig on every  
message on this list. I want to use this list to learn how to better  
use the program we have, not speculate on how an excellent program  
can maybe improve marginally.





Hi all,
well I see that everybody are very heppy using Yojimbo, which is good.  
I am also happy Yojimbo user, and I am still trying to get used to  
pholosophy of personal management in Yojimbo. It is getting more and  
more suited for my needs, but when you are using such kind of program  
you need more and more. I don't want to have big application for  
everything, but some features IMHO need to be implemented if Yojimbo  
want to be on top of today "personal management" application market.  
Now we have centrilized iCal/TODO store in the Leopard for instance,  
we have more and more multimedia staff on our HDD so the list of smart  
collection is growing and growing and tha last, but no least tagging.  
Would be really nice to have all the home brewed apple scripts  
implemented in Yojimbo to do PDF Save with tags, automatically tag the  
items when you drag them to the smart collection, import NetNewsWire  
webpages with tags etc. Now you have to look throught the Internet  
sites to find the proper script or try do it by yourself right? So why  
do not implement all these functionalities to Yojimbo?


Krzysztof Maj


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Re: The Real Issue With Nested Folders and Multiple Databases.

[Dennis]

On May 2, 2008, at 9:49 AM, david wrote:

Perhaps there's a context within which the paragraph below explains  
how tags are superior to folders but it eludes me. I'm not arguing  
that tags don't have value and aren't at times more valuable than  
folders, but this paragraph doesn't explain it to me.


Yes, I agree with David. There are cases where tagging works nicely,  
and I'm actually satisfied with that in Yojimbo.


But in other cases, I prefer the visual aid of being able to see a  
hierarchical structure of my data. This particularly holds true  
whenever I do lots of browsing or manual reviewing of the information.  
That's one of the reasons I prefer OmniFocus for implementing GTD.  
Yojimbo's strengths lie elsewhere.


Hierarchical structures (nested folders) are certainly *not* in stark  
contrast to the very first steps of GTD! After all, placing an item in  
a folder is essentially a way to tag it with a bit of information for  
later retrieval.


The advantage of true tagging is that it allows you to apply  
*multiple* bits of information to an item. However, the disadvantage  
is that tagging is a higher-level cognitive function, requiring more  
thought to recall and assign a variety of tag names. This is often a  
distraction from the primary task at hand and leads to inefficiency.  
That's exactly why I *avoid* tagging my items as I add them to  
Yojimbo. I can always return later to further tag them if I feel it's  
necessary, but usually I simply rely on content searches, which makes  
organizational method virtually irrelevant anyway.


Tagging and hierarchical structures are both just tools to organize  
your data. Neither is a an end all, be all solution. Sometimes you  
need a hammer, sometimes you need a screw driver. Use the right tool  
for the job. For random data collection and storage in Yojimbo,  
tagging works nicely.


-Dennis

PS - The idea of tagging being a high-level cognitive function is  
similar to Tog's research on mouse vs. keyboard. Read more at: http://www.asktog.com/TOI/toi06KeyboardVMouse1.html


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Re: Almost happy with Yojimbo the way it is

[Dennis]

On May 2, 2008, at 5:06 AM, Jan Rychter wrote:

When the focus is in the collections panel, pressing tab should take  
me

to the list of documents, not to the little buttons below the
collections panel.


[snip]

Next TAB should go to the title, then tags, then content (NOT to the  
rarely

used "Encrypt" button!)


[snip]

When creating new documents using the little dialog box in the  
corner of
the screen, I don't want to TAB over the little arrow button next to  
the

"Name", I want to go straight to tags and then the text.


I don't see this behavior on my system. Perhaps you have "All  
controls" enabled for the "Full keyboard access" preference in System  
Preferences -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts?



I dare you to try using Yojimbo without a mouse. Put a quarter in a  
coin
box every time you have to reach for the mouse to do something or  
every

time an extra key press is needed.


Hmm, I don't really see a problem here. I use Yojimbo with just the  
keyboard all the time. The only case where there *might* be an issue  
is tabbing from the search field to the sidebar rather than directly  
to the list view. Other than that, everything seems to work as expected.


-Dennis

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Re: The Real Issue With Nested Folders and Multiple Databases.

[Keith Ledbetter]

On May 2, 2008, at 10:57 AM, Luis Roca wrote:

Lorin and Kenneth identified the real issue very well. I think a lot  
of

the discomfort with not having nested folders is due to a habit of
putting off properly identifying an item. We keep bringing up the book
“Getting Things Done” but the idea of nested folders and multiple
library databases are in stark contrast to the very first steps of  
GTD.

Folders poorly identify information. At best they just create more
inboxes. Because you haven’t properly identified the specific item you
will waste more time searching six weeks down the road when you need  
to

produce a receipt, or email the photo of your family eating pizza in
Times Square to your sister. Tagging is a far more fluid way to  
identify

something at the very moment it enters your system.


Luis, we're all really, really happy that Yojimbo is "perfect" for  
your way of gathering information.  But it's quite pompous of you to  
think that everyone else is wrong because we like to sometimes  
organize our data in physical divisions.


And, repeat after me, YOJIMBO IS NOT A GTD TOOL.  It is a digital junk  
drawer; a tool that you have just been lucky enough to be able to  
"fit" into the GTD principles.


Keith


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Re: Almost happy with Yojimbo the way it is

[infrahile]

Thanks for your response Steve, great to have some direct answers  
from the guy who kicked it all off :o)


Now, naturally, I want more! :o)

In the past I've drawn a distinction between 'nested folders' and a  
means to group collections in the sidebar. I see these as distinct  
things and I've copied the original post below where I go into more  
detail on the issue. My question is, do you see these as one and the  
same or would you consider the latter as a different feature request.  
To me nested folders means hierarchical organisation and I'd be the  
first to agree this is not necessary, I'd be interested in your view  
on the matter.


I appreciate there's more than one way to skin a cat and to my mind a  
different approach to tag navigation could obviate the need for this,  
but as an interface designer myself I'm keeping my cards close to my  
chest on that one as I have a particular solution in mind for a  
project of my own! ;o)


Regards, T.



Extract from that previous post…


Tag collection grouping
OK, hopefully no one thinks I'm trying to pull a fast one and change  
the name of the game from 'nested folders' but on reviewing the  
previous threads again I think the debate gets sidetracked into one  
of hierarchy vs. tagging - a fine debate in it's own right but not  
really what I'm after as a feature request. I'm really very happy  
with tag & search approach for many things, but for quick reference  
and ad-hoc corralling of tagged information I use tag collections  
extensively. I have a lot of them, too many to be easily reviewable  
in one long multi-page scrolling list - not (I'll pre-empt the  
inevitable response) in some vain attempt to re-impose an old  
fashioned hierarchy, but simply to take advantage of the benefits of  
tagging for the purposes of browsing (as opposed to searching). It is  
a pain to only be able to sort these tag collections alphabetically  
(even with alpha-numeric prefixes) in one long list.


The long and short of it is that, for whatever reason, i have a lot  
of tag collections, all I really need is a more control over how they  
are organised and presented, a single level of grouping would do just  
fine. I can see how this could cause ambiguity leading to an  
impression of support for deep hierarchy but i doubt this is  
insurmountable - perhaps some judicious use of naming to conceptually  
divorce 'tag collections' from 'collections' and a visually distinct  
icon to further distinguish the concepts might overcome this problem?  
Or maybe separating smart collections, collections, and tag  
collections with sub-titles in the sidebar as iTunes does would do  
the trick?






On 1 May 2008, at 14:20, Steve Kalkwarf wrote:

I'm not singling out Rhet, but there are several ideas embodied in  
this paragraph that bear comment:


If someone from BareBones does pipe in, it's usually to say "We're  
never going to add that feature.  See previous post..."  This  
compares poorly to several other indie-Mac software lists I'm on  
(such as the forum for Leap and Yep, both excellent applications:  
http://www.ironicsoftware.com/) where the developer is happy to  
get feedback on what users actually want and participates in the  
dialogue.


Let me start off by saying no matter what I, or another Bare Bones  
representative says, a large number of people will be unhappy. For  
years we said "Thanks for the feedback, and we'll consider adding  
this functionality". Then, email every time we shipped an update  
we'd get a "reminder" email, asking why the feature wasn't in that  
version. Other people waited and waited for the feature to arrive,  
but it wasn't going to. I thought that was unfair.


Now, if a feature request has a known disposition, we generally  
share that answer. Nested folders? No. If you _have_ to have that  
feature, you will be better off elsewhere. Does this compare  
"poorly" with other companies? I don't know. I prefer the honest  
answer, whether it makes people happy or not.


Another assumption (again, not picking on Rhet) is that  
implementing every feature request is a good idea. If you take a  
step back and look at the types of requests people make, with rare  
exception (nested folders, smart collections, better tag  
management) they are particular to the requester's existing  
workflow. The "one feature I have to have" is not the one feature  
you have to have, or Charlie has to have, or probably more than a  
couple people have to have.


The implied assumption that tends to go along with almost any  
request is that adding feature X doesn't increase the complexity of  
Yojimbo. That is untrue.


In a past life, I spent countless hours helping novice Mac users  
find the files they had lost, because they had no idea where they  
were saving, or because they saved all their files in the Word  
folder, and when they updated Word, lost everything. The average  
computer user is overwhelmed by choices, and as simple as this 

Re: The Real Issue With Nested Folders and Multiple Databases.

[Scott J. Lopez]

No one said Yojimbo is a GTD tool, but apparently people use it for
that given the number of posts that reference it. There are several
Mac programs specifically for GTD actually, should anyone want them
(search versiontracker.com).

As for someone being "pompous" isn't it a little "pompous" for all the
people saying that Yojimbo _has to have_ XXX feature or the program is
worthless/useless/they won't buy it. As I've pointed out in a previous
post, there is a trial period (thank you Bare Bones) with using
Yojimbo. If it doesn't fit your needs, move on, but whining on this
list "I won't buy it because it doesn't have XXX" is pretty bad. I can
understand why BB won't respond to feature request emails any more
with an attitude like that. Yojimbo obviously has all the features
Bare Bone wanted to put into it, if someone wants something different
they could write it up themselves.

Now I didn't mean to turn this into a flame war, but I'm pretty tired
of hearing people complain Yojimbo won't make coffee, clean up after
the dog, and turn down their beds at night. This is supposed to be a
support list, a place to share with each other how we use Yojimbo,
tips and tricks, etc.

On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Keith Ledbetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Luis, we're all really, really happy that Yojimbo is "perfect" for your way
> of gathering information.  But it's quite pompous of you to think that
> everyone else is wrong because we like to sometimes organize our data in
> physical divisions.
>
>  And, repeat after me, YOJIMBO IS NOT A GTD TOOL.  It is a digital junk
> drawer; a tool that you have just been lucky enough to be able to "fit" into
> the GTD principles.
>
>  Keith

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Re: The Real Issue With Nested Folders and Multiple Databases.

[Robertson Dale A.]

HEAR HEAR!

On May 2, 2008, at 18:19, Scott J. Lopez wrote:


No one said Yojimbo is a GTD tool, but apparently people use it for
that given the number of posts that reference it. There are several
Mac programs specifically for GTD actually, should anyone want them
(search versiontracker.com).

As for someone being "pompous" isn't it a little "pompous" for all the
people saying that Yojimbo _has to have_ XXX feature or the program is
worthless/useless/they won't buy it. As I've pointed out in a previous
post, there is a trial period (thank you Bare Bones) with using
Yojimbo. If it doesn't fit your needs, move on, but whining on this
list "I won't buy it because it doesn't have XXX" is pretty bad. I can
understand why BB won't respond to feature request emails any more
with an attitude like that. Yojimbo obviously has all the features
Bare Bone wanted to put into it, if someone wants something different
they could write it up themselves.

Now I didn't mean to turn this into a flame war, but I'm pretty tired
of hearing people complain Yojimbo won't make coffee, clean up after
the dog, and turn down their beds at night. This is supposed to be a
support list, a place to share with each other how we use Yojimbo,
tips and tricks, etc.

On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Keith Ledbetter  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 Luis, we're all really, really happy that Yojimbo is "perfect"  
for your way
of gathering information.  But it's quite pompous of you to think  
that
everyone else is wrong because we like to sometimes organize our  
data in

physical divisions.

 And, repeat after me, YOJIMBO IS NOT A GTD TOOL.  It is a digital  
junk
drawer; a tool that you have just been lucky enough to be able to  
"fit" into

the GTD principles.

 Keith


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I use Yojimbo for..

[Scott J. Lopez]

I want to start a positive thread on what interesting things everyone
uses Yojimbo for.. Maybe everyone could post one interesting thing
they use the application for, we all might find some new uses..

So here's mine..


I use Yojimbo for saving receipts when I make online purchases. I use
the "Print PDF to Yojimbo" instead of printing out a paper receipt, I
tag it with a few keywords ("receipt", date, purpose, items) and drop
it in a "receipts" folder. I also Print to PDF or download in PDF (and
drop into Yojimbo any relevant Rebates). Very fast, easy and I always
can look back at what I bought. I also Print to PDF any emailed
receipts that I might not have gotten on a web page (mostly when
buying software).

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Re: The Real Issue With Nested Folders and Multiple Databases.

[infrahile]

Personally, along as it's civil, I think a bit of heated debate is  
all good fun - livens things up a bit!


:o)

T.


On 2 May 2008, at 23:19, Scott J. Lopez wrote:


No one said Yojimbo is a GTD tool, but apparently people use it for
that given the number of posts that reference it. There are several
Mac programs specifically for GTD actually, should anyone want them
(search versiontracker.com).

As for someone being "pompous" isn't it a little "pompous" for all the
people saying that Yojimbo _has to have_ XXX feature or the program is
worthless/useless/they won't buy it. As I've pointed out in a previous
post, there is a trial period (thank you Bare Bones) with using
Yojimbo. If it doesn't fit your needs, move on, but whining on this
list "I won't buy it because it doesn't have XXX" is pretty bad. I can
understand why BB won't respond to feature request emails any more
with an attitude like that. Yojimbo obviously has all the features
Bare Bone wanted to put into it, if someone wants something different
they could write it up themselves.

Now I didn't mean to turn this into a flame war, but I'm pretty tired
of hearing people complain Yojimbo won't make coffee, clean up after
the dog, and turn down their beds at night. This is supposed to be a
support list, a place to share with each other how we use Yojimbo,
tips and tricks, etc.

On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Keith Ledbetter  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 Luis, we're all really, really happy that Yojimbo is "perfect"  
for your way
of gathering information.  But it's quite pompous of you to think  
that
everyone else is wrong because we like to sometimes organize our  
data in

physical divisions.

 And, repeat after me, YOJIMBO IS NOT A GTD TOOL.  It is a digital  
junk
drawer; a tool that you have just been lucky enough to be able to  
"fit" into

the GTD principles.

 Keith


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