Re: [Zappa-List] SOFA's Vine-Ology

2005-04-04 Thread jurgen . verfaillie

>I think though (no offense, of course) that I'd like to see this work out for 
>the List in its present form, as we are a community unto our own 
Sure, I understand :-)
The offer still stands though, should it ever become necessary.

>PS Nice wiki you're building, btw: 
>http://wiki.killuglyradio.com/index.php/Main_Page
Why thank you Sir - and thanks much for your contributions to it...

YM




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Re: [Zappa-List] SOFA's Vine-Ology

2005-04-04 Thread SOFA





Thank you for the kind offer YM (Barry).
Obviously, the method employed at the KUR Forms is a good one, or I 
wouldn't have tried to emulate it. I think though (no offense, of course) that 
I'd like to see this work out for the List in its present form, as we are a 
community unto our own; sorta keeping the system "in house" rather than 
expanding it to involve other web areas. I sure (hope?) you understand.
Warm regards!
SOFA
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Another 
  option would be to not have the progression of a vine posted via the list, 
  instead having a messageboard where it can be followed up. (SNIP) I could 
  set up a forum for this at thebignote.com, should the powers that be feel like 
  this is a viable option.Just a thought...YM (aka Barry, Lurker 
  Extraordinaire)


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Re: [Zappa-List] SOFA's Vine-Ology

2005-04-04 Thread jurgen . verfaillie

Another option would be to not have the progression of a vine posted via the 
list, instead having a messageboard where it can be followed up (indeed, much 
like KUR's Uncle Beat Forum).
Then, when someone offers a new VO, they first post it at the forum, then 
announce it to the list (so that all list-members know there's a new VO at the 
forum). From there on, the vine would spread on at the forum.

I could set up a forum for this at thebignote.com, should the powers that be 
feel like this is a viable option.

Just a thought...

YM (aka Barry, Lurker Extraordinaire)




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Re: [Zappa-List] SOFA's Vine-Ology

2005-04-03 Thread Cris Haldenby


Did you know that through out time every society has invented and used  
arrows independently of each other?
Not a lot of people know that.

I don't mind arrows, in fact I quite like them.
It's exclamation marks that really get my goat!!
FUCK!!  I HATE exclamation marks!

Sorry about that.   :)

Cris


On 4 Apr 2005, at 07:25, Scott Burnett wrote:


The arrows, the arrows, GOD I HATE the backward
arrows, a close second are the SPACES! I'm not
religious, but mea culpa.

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Re: [Zappa-List] SOFA's Vine-Ology

2005-04-03 Thread Scott Burnett

The arrows, the arrows, GOD I HATE the backward
arrows, a close second are the SPACES! I'm not
religious, but mea culpa.

Scott, trying hard not to fuck up.

--- SOFA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Questions, questions, questions plaguing the
> minds...
> My initial idea had the people putting their
> name up on the list to a) pay attention to the
> email address included in the post (whether
> it's digest, individual, or site-read doesn't
> matter; it's always included; and b) pay
> attention to the email of who responds next in
> line. I had figured that this was the least a
> person could do to be a part of the vine... The
> "policing yourself for the good of everyone"
> concept. Member Barry was correct; I based this
> concept on the one employed at the KUR forums.
> But they are a blog and we are not - it's just
> a little different.
> I have, in watching what has transpired in the
> last day, seen a couple of problems tho', which
> could/would most likely be answered by
> attaching an email to the list, rather than a
> handle so some care needs to be taken. Jim's
> comment about the arrows is a good point; also
> not leaving a space makes for one monster email
> addy:
>
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> - don't try clicking on this at home!
> I'm going to suggest that everyone 1) pay
> attention to the thread of the vine that you
> join, 2) make your arrows this way <<<, and 3)
> use your discretion when it comes to attaching
> yourself to the vine. If you want to add your
> email to the body of a message post, that's
> your business (but, our message posts, by
> virtue of the system in which we are operate,
> are easily searched by anyone on the Net, not
> just our group members; there's simply no such
> thing as a private group), but if you use a
> handle or user name or personal name or
> whatever, take it upon yourself to contact the
> person before you - and after you, as the case
> may be - in the vine. In theory, as long as you
> know who you're getting the vine from, and
> contact that person with your stats, those
> behind you will do the same and the vine will
> take care of itself...
> Unless, there's something I've not thought of?
> SOFA
> 
>   So when adding oneself to a vine; How does
> the person getting the vine 
>   know WHERE to send it?
>   But How to get a mailing address? Rick
> 
>   As you reply by adding your name (Jim
> L-US>>Rick-??) your email address is
> automatically on the email you replied and
> added yourself with. This system is almost
> foolproof with the possible exception of 2
> members replying and adding themselves to the
> vine at once. Even then yahoo will sort out
> who's email arrived there first down to the
> millisecond and combining can occur. Jim L 
> 
>   Great advice, this is a fantastic idea SOFA,
> It's
>   made me get off my ass and re-offer some long
>   overdue stuff. Rick
> 
>   I think I missed an important point in SOFA's
> instructions. The separators should be this way
> << rather than this way >>. Jim L 



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Re: [Zappa-List] SOFA's Vine-Ology

2005-04-03 Thread SOFA





Questions, questions, questions plaguing the minds...
My initial idea had the people putting their name up on the list to a) pay 
attention to the email address included in the post (whether it's digest, 
individual, or site-read doesn't matter; it's always included; and b) pay 
attention to the email of who responds next in line. I had figured that this was 
the least a person could do to be a part of the vine... The "policing yourself 
for the good of everyone" concept. Member Barry was correct; I based this 
concept on the one employed at the KUR forums. But they are a blog and we are 
not - it's just a little different.
I have, in watching what has transpired in the last day, seen a couple of 
problems tho', which could/would most likely be answered by attaching an email 
to the list, rather than a handle so some care needs to be taken. Jim's comment 
about the arrows is a good point; also not leaving a space makes for one monster 
email addy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] - 
don't try clicking on this at home!
I'm going to suggest that everyone 1) pay attention to the thread of the 
vine that you join, 2) make your arrows this way <<<, and 3) use your 
discretion when it comes to attaching yourself to the vine. If you want to add 
your email to the body of a message post, that's your business (but, our message 
posts, by virtue of the system in which we are operate, are easily searched by 
anyone on the Net, not just our group members; there's simply no such thing as a 
private group), but if you use a handle or user name or personal name or 
whatever, take it upon yourself to contact the person before you - and after 
you, as the case may be - in the vine. In theory, as long as you know who you're 
getting the vine from, and contact that person with your stats, those behind you 
will do the same and the vine will take care of itself...
Unless, there's something I've not thought of?
SOFA
 

  So when adding oneself to a vine; How does the person getting the vine 
  know WHERE to send it?But How to get a mailing address? 
  RickAs you reply by adding your 
  name (Jim L-US>>Rick-??) your email address is automatically on the 
  email you replied and added yourself with. This system is almost foolproof 
  with the possible exception of 2 members replying and adding themselves to 
  the vine at once. Even then yahoo will sort out who's email arrived there 
  first down to the millisecond and combining can occur. Jim L 

   
  Great advice, this is a fantastic idea SOFA, It'smade me get off my 
  ass and re-offer some longoverdue stuff. Rick
   
  I think I missed an important point 
  in SOFA's instructions. The separators should be this way << rather than 
  this way >>. Jim L 



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[Zappa-List] SOFA's Vine-Ology

2005-04-03 Thread Richard Hall

So when adding oneself to a vine; How does the person getting the vine 
know WHERE to send it?

The Vine trail has names:  Jim L-US >> Jack Simpson-US >> JoeDP-US >> 
Luis-IT >> Conehead-BE >> Richard-UK >> Gabriel >> marcomat-IT

But How to get a mailing address? If these were e-mail addresses one 
could e-mail and get a reply. But as they are names, how to find an 
e-mail address?
You guys who post with a handle are easy to find in the archive. But 
"Richard-UK" is NOT a handle. So how to find the e-mail address to ask 
for the mail address?

Or did I miss something?

Rick


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