Re: [ZION] Thought for the day

2003-09-22 Thread Jon Spencer
Stacy Smith wrote:

 Not for a diabetic.

What?  You never heard of sucralose?

Jon

 Thought for the Day:
 
 A nice box of chocolate can provide your entire daily intake of calories
in
 one place.
 
 Isn't that handy?
 
 Jon

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RE: [ZION] Thought for the day

2003-09-22 Thread hkpage
Works for me!  Especially if it's Dove or Lindt chocolate!

By the way, Job...aren't you in North Carolina?  If so, did you sustain any
damage from Isabel?

Heidi


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 To: zion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 9/21/2003 9:12:31 PM
 Subject: [ZION] Thought for the day

 Thought for the Day:

 A nice box of chocolate can provide your entire daily intake of calories
in
 one place.

 Isn't that handy?

 Jon



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[ZION] Crying Babies

2003-09-22 Thread John W. Redelfs
Once all possible needs have been addressed, there is something satisfying 
about letting a baby cry until she finally gives it up.  The sisters are 
not especially good at this, but I can do it just fine. --JWR

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RE: [ZION] Thought for the day

2003-09-22 Thread John W. Redelfs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Works for me!  Especially if it's Dove or Lindt chocolate!
My favorite is Cadbury Royal Dark.  In fact, I like them so much that I 
just bought 15 bars and a Rubbermaid container to keep them in.  They sell 
them here in Juneau; but when I get back to Ketchikan, I won't have access 
to them. --JWR

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RE: [ZION] Thought for the day

2003-09-22 Thread Steven Montgomery
At 08:44 AM 9/22/2003, you wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Works for me!  Especially if it's Dove or Lindt chocolate!
My favorite is Cadbury Royal Dark.  In fact, I like them so much that I 
just bought 15 bars and a Rubbermaid container to keep them in.  They sell 
them here in Juneau; but when I get back to Ketchikan, I won't have access 
to them. --JWR
What are you doing in Juneau?



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RE: [ZION] Thought for the day

2003-09-22 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 09:38 AM 9/22/2003 -0500, the amazing Heidi the Fair wrote:
Works for me!  Especially if it's Dove or Lindt chocolate!

By the way, Job...aren't you in North Carolina?  If so, did you sustain any
damage from Isabel?


Heidi is now in correspondence with a real hero.  Shall we all sit and give 
him comfort?

Just picking, Heidi  8))  I hope Jon faired better temporally than his 
typo-namesake.  May we all fare as well as he in other matters, however.

Till

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RE: [ZION] Thought for the day

2003-09-22 Thread hkpage
Hey, it's Monday...it's rainy...I didn't use my spellchecker...

:-)
Heidi (who almost just typo'ed her own name!)


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 From: Elmer L. Fairbank [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 9/22/2003 9:53:07 AM
 Subject: RE: [ZION] Thought for the day

 At 09:38 AM 9/22/2003 -0500, the amazing Heidi the Fair wrote:
 Works for me!  Especially if it's Dove or Lindt chocolate!
 
 By the way, Job...aren't you in North Carolina?  If so, did you sustain
any
 damage from Isabel?


 Heidi is now in correspondence with a real hero.  Shall we all sit and
give 
 him comfort?

 Just picking, Heidi  8))  I hope Jon faired better temporally than his 
 typo-namesake.  May we all fare as well as he in other matters, however.

 Till



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RE: [ZION] Crying Babies

2003-09-22 Thread hkpage
I was able to do this with my own kids, though it was hard at first.  When
our first child was born, we were given a book, the title of which went
something like How to help your child sleep through the night, or words
to that effect.  It was written by a Dr. Ferber out of Boston, and he
advocated this system when helping babies learn to sleep through the night.
He promoted a graduated system...First night - address needs, and then when
baby started to cry, go in after 5 minutes, reassure and then leave.  Wait
10 minutes, reassure.  Wait 15 minutes, reassure...and so on at 5 minute
intervals until baby fell asleep. The second night, don't start going in
until after 10 minutes, and go in at 10 minute intervals.  Third night, 15
minutes, etc...  The idea was that baby would know you were there but would
be given time to fall asleep by itself (sans soother, binky, pacifier or
whatever you want to call it).  It took each of my kids about 3 days to
learn to fall asleep by themselves; once they learned this, life was much
easier for everybody!

Heidi


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 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 9/22/2003 9:43:01 AM
 Subject: [ZION] Crying Babies

 Once all possible needs have been addressed, there is something
satisfying 
 about letting a baby cry until she finally gives it up.  The sisters are 
 not especially good at this, but I can do it just fine. --JWR



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RE: [ZION] Thought for the day

2003-09-22 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 08:50 AM 9/22/2003 -0600, St Steven wrote:
At 08:44 AM 9/22/2003, you wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Works for me!  Especially if it's Dove or Lindt chocolate!
My favorite is Cadbury Royal Dark.  In fact, I like them so much that I 
just bought 15 bars and a Rubbermaid container to keep them in.  They 
sell them here in Juneau; but when I get back to Ketchikan, I won't have 
access to them. --JWR
What are you doing in Juneau?


Does Till sense that maybe the BLT has become a politician, maybe sitting 
in the State Senate?  Building a base to run for President?  What say, gov'ner?

Till

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RE: [ZION] Thought for the day

2003-09-22 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 09:58 AM 9/22/2003 -0500, Hei..y the Fair wrote:
Hey, it's Monday...it's rainy...I didn't use my spellchecker...

:-)
Heidi (who almost just typo'ed her own name!)


We're afraid to ask, so don't tell.

Till

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RE: [ZION] Thought for the day

2003-09-22 Thread John W. Redelfs
Steven Montgomery wrote:
At 08:44 AM 9/22/2003, you wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Works for me!  Especially if it's Dove or Lindt chocolate!
My favorite is Cadbury Royal Dark.  In fact, I like them so much that I 
just bought 15 bars and a Rubbermaid container to keep them in.  They 
sell them here in Juneau; but when I get back to Ketchikan, I won't have 
access to them. --JWR
What are you doing in Juneau?
Helpint my wife and daughter take care of my newborn first 
grandchild.  I've been here about a month, and I'll probably be here 
another couple of weeks.  Esperanza took a month of  use it or lose it 
annual leave to help with the new baby.  I'm just tagging along for want of 
anything more useful to do.

Your friend and brother,
John W. Redelfs, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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Re: [ZION] Thought for the day

2003-09-22 Thread Jon Spencer
I do not have the patience of Job - I don't even have an M.D.! (referencing
a minor typo below).

But, no, we here in the Piedmont (central NC) only got about 50 mph winds -
a few trees down and power out for less than an hour at most.  And besides,
I was in Colorado for the week, so my wife and family had to deal with it
without me.  Luckily, no problems, and my flight came in the next day with
no problems (in fact, we were even a bit early).

Thanks for asking.

Jon

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Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 10:38 AM
Subject: RE: [ZION] Thought for the day


 Works for me!  Especially if it's Dove or Lindt chocolate!

 By the way, Job...aren't you in North Carolina?  If so, did you sustain
any
 damage from Isabel?

 Heidi


  [Original Message]
  From: Jon Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: zion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 9/21/2003 9:12:31 PM
  Subject: [ZION] Thought for the day
 
  Thought for the Day:
 
  A nice box of chocolate can provide your entire daily intake of calories
 in
  one place.
 
  Isn't that handy?
 
  Jon
 
 


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Re: [ZION] Thought for the day

2003-09-22 Thread Jon Spencer
Stacy Smith wrote:

 No, what is it? (sucralose)

Sucralose is the trade name for the stereoisomer of normal sucrose (table
sugar).  It tastes the same as regular sugar, but is not processed by the
body.  Your taste buds can't tell the difference (but perhaps your
pocketbook can!).

If I remember my organic chemistry correctly, table sugar is R-sucrose and
Sucralose is L-sucrose.

So, you see, diabetics can partake of the handy one-box-holds-all chocolate
diet!

Jon

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Re: [ZION] Thought for the day

2003-09-22 Thread Stacy Smith
Where does one get it?  Are these candies?

Stacy.

At 04:38 PM 09/22/2003 -0400, you wrote:

Stacy Smith wrote:

 No, what is it? (sucralose)

Sucralose is the trade name for the stereoisomer of normal sucrose (table
sugar).  It tastes the same as regular sugar, but is not processed by the
body.  Your taste buds can't tell the difference (but perhaps your
pocketbook can!).
If I remember my organic chemistry correctly, table sugar is R-sucrose and
Sucralose is L-sucrose.
So, you see, diabetics can partake of the handy one-box-holds-all chocolate
diet!
Jon

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[ZION] Steven E. Robinson: Is This A Forbidden Topic?

2003-09-22 Thread Stacy Smith
Hi.  I see that my question about the books has tactfully been avoided.  Is 
this author off limits to Zion?

Stacy.

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Re: [ZION] Steven E. Robinson: Is This A Forbidden Topic?

2003-09-22 Thread John W. Redelfs
Stacy Smith wrote:
Hi.  I see that my question about the books has tactfully been 
avoided.  Is this author off limits to Zion?
I haven't commented on the books because I have not read them.  But I own 
BELIEVING CHRIST and intend to read it eventually.  Brother Robinson is a 
religion professor at BYU and highly respected for his knowledge of the 
gospel and Church doctrine.  In fact, to be a religion professor at BYU 
that respect must necessarily extend into the highest quorums of the Church 
since the Council of the Twelve is the board of trustees of BYU.

I doubt very much if Robinson teaches the Protestant heresy of salvation by 
grace alone without works.  However, he explains in the introduction to the 
book that there is an equally heretical idea widely held in the Church that 
we can work our way to heaven.  His book is designed to overturn that 
misunderstanding of gospel doctrine.  And as such it may not be a balanced 
treatment of the Grace vs. Works debate.

John W. Redelfs   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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in the gospel of doom and gloom.  The gospel is good
news.  It is a message of triumph. --Gordon B. Hinckley
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All my opinions are tentative pending further data. --JWR 

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Re: [ZION] Thought for the day

2003-09-22 Thread hkpage
Stacy,

My husband is diabetic also, and he buys the candies with sucralose all the
time.  There are some made by Russell Stover, Cadbury's Turtles, and now
I'm seeing some done by Reese's (is that Hershey's?).  I've seen them at
Walmart, Target  Kroger, and I'm sure they are carried at other stores, as
well.  My husband does say that they aren't the best for diabetics, but if
you're really craving the taste of chocolate, they are good to have on
hand.  Also, the box does warn against eating too many at a time.  Because
the body doesn't process the sucralose, I imagine it causes plumbing
problems.  My husband might eat one every couple of days.  I've tried them
and they aren't bad at all.  My favorites are the coconut  chocolate
concoctions by Russell Stover's.

Heidi


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 From: Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 9/22/2003 5:31:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [ZION] Thought for the day

 Where does one get it?  Are these candies?

 Stacy.

 At 04:38 PM 09/22/2003 -0400, you wrote:

 Stacy Smith wrote:
 
   No, what is it? (sucralose)
 
 Sucralose is the trade name for the stereoisomer of normal sucrose (table
 sugar).  It tastes the same as regular sugar, but is not processed by the
 body.  Your taste buds can't tell the difference (but perhaps your
 pocketbook can!).
 
 If I remember my organic chemistry correctly, table sugar is R-sucrose
and
 Sucralose is L-sucrose.
 
 So, you see, diabetics can partake of the handy one-box-holds-all
chocolate
 diet!
 
 Jon
 

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Re: [ZION] Thought for the day

2003-09-22 Thread Jon Spencer
Sucralose is sold under the brand name Splenda  and is available next to
Equal in grocery stores.  It is a one teaspoon for one teaspoon substitute
for table sugar.  Note, however, that it is somewhat pricey.  Some companies
have started to use it in products.  For example, Diet Rite drinks are now
made with sucralose.  More companies will gradually start to use this
product as more people complain of the side effects of NutraSweet.

Jon

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From: Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [ZION] Thought for the day


 Where does one get it?  Are these candies?

 Stacy.

 At 04:38 PM 09/22/2003 -0400, you wrote:

 Stacy Smith wrote:
 
   No, what is it? (sucralose)
 
 Sucralose is the trade name for the stereoisomer of normal sucrose (table
 sugar).  It tastes the same as regular sugar, but is not processed by the
 body.  Your taste buds can't tell the difference (but perhaps your
 pocketbook can!).
 
 If I remember my organic chemistry correctly, table sugar is R-sucrose
and
 Sucralose is L-sucrose.
 
 So, you see, diabetics can partake of the handy one-box-holds-all
chocolate
 diet!
 
 Jon
 

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