Re: [ZODB-Dev] Author ZoDB Books - Packt Publishing.
Thanks for your reply, Jean! We appreciate your book idea and are keen to hear from more people interested in writing books. Kshipra - Original Message - From: Jean Jordaan To: Kshipra Singh Cc: zodb-dev@zope.org Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [ZODB-Dev] Author ZoDB Books - Packt Publishing. A ZODB book would be absolutely wonderful. It is a crying shame that it has been languishing with very sparse and patchy documentation. I'm not deep enough into it technically to write about it. People that are include Shane Hathaway, Kapil Thangavelu, Christian Theune, and Roché Compaan (on throughput). Dieter Maurer and Andreas Jung have used it for very large stores, and Dieter has implemented the best query tools for it. I think you should do a cookbook with a chapter per author, as different people have pushed the ZODB in different directions. On May 6, 2010 3:09 PM, Kshipra Singh kship...@packtpub.com wrote: Hi All, I am writing to you for Packt Publishing, the publishers of computer related books. We are planning to expand the catalogue of our books on databases and are looking forward to publish some books on NoSQL. Currently we are inviting people interested in writing NoSQL books for Packt. This doesn't need any past writing experience. All that we need is an expert subject knowledge, a passion to share it with others and an ability to communicate clearly in English. So, if you love ZoDB and fancy writing a book, send your book ideas to us at aut...@packtpub.com. Even if you don't have a book idea and are simply interested in writing a book, we are still keen to hear from you. More details about the opportunity are available at: http://authors.packtpub.com/content/inviting-open-source-nosql-databases-fanatics-write-packt Thanks Kshipra Singh Author Relationship Manager Packt Publishing www.PacktPub.com Skype: kshiprasingh15 Twitter: http://twitter.com/packtauthors Interested in becoming an author? Visit http://authors.packtpub.com for all the information you need about writing for Packt. ___ For more information about ZODB, see the ZODB Wiki: http://www.zope.org/Wikis/ZODB/ ZODB-Dev mailing list - ZODB-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zodb-dev ___ For more information about ZODB, see the ZODB Wiki: http://www.zope.org/Wikis/ZODB/ ZODB-Dev mailing list - ZODB-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zodb-dev
Re: [ZODB-Dev] Author ZoDB Books - Packt Publishing.
Erm, sorry for the off the hip namedropping mail, the safety catch was off the Reply-to-all button :-p On May 6, 2010 3:24 PM, Jean Jordaan jean.jord...@gmail.com wrote: A ZODB book would be absolutely wonderful. It is a crying shame that it has been languishing with very sparse and patchy documentation. I'm not deep enough into it technically to write about it. People that are include Shane Hathaway, Kapil Thangavelu, Christian Theune, and Roché Compaan (on throughput). Dieter Maurer and Andreas Jung have used it for very large stores, and Dieter has implemented the best query tools for it. I think you should do a cookbook with a chapter per author, as different people have pushed the ZODB in different directions. On May 6, 2010 3:09 PM, Kshipra Singh kship...@packtpub.com wrote: Hi All, I am ... ___ For more information about ZODB, see the ZODB Wiki: http://www.zope.org/Wikis/ZODB/ ZODB-Dev mailing list - ZODB-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zodb-dev ___ For more information about ZODB, see the ZODB Wiki: http://www.zope.org/Wikis/ZODB/ ZODB-Dev mailing list - ZODB-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zodb-dev
Re: [ZODB-Dev] Author ZoDB Books - Packt Publishing.
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Kshipra Singh kship...@packtpub.com wrote: Hi All, I am writing to you for Packt Publishing, the publishers of computer related books. We are planning to expand the catalogue of our books on databases and are looking forward to publish some books on NoSQL. Currently we are inviting people interested in writing NoSQL books for Packt. This doesn't need any past writing experience. All that we need is an expert subject knowledge, a passion to share it with others and an ability to communicate clearly in English. So, if you love ZoDB and fancy writing a book, send your book ideas to us at aut...@packtpub.com. Even if you don't have a book idea and are simply interested in writing a book, we are still keen to hear from you. More details about the opportunity are available at: http://authors.packtpub.com/content/inviting-open-source-nosql-databases-fanatics-write-packt +1 for a Book about ZODB. There should be one or two chapters about using ZODB with Zope 2, Grok BlueBream. May be with with non-Zope frameworks like Pylons/Django (I am not sure whether anyone has done that). Regards, Baiju M ___ For more information about ZODB, see the ZODB Wiki: http://www.zope.org/Wikis/ZODB/ ZODB-Dev mailing list - ZODB-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zodb-dev
Re: [ZODB-Dev] Author ZoDB Books - Packt Publishing.
Thanks, Baiju! Good to see that some people are interested in writing a ZODB book. Why not submit a book idea for discussion? Regards Kshipra - Original Message - From: Baiju M mba...@zeomega.com To: Kshipra Singh kship...@packtpub.com Cc: zodb-dev@zope.org Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 2:36 PM Subject: Re: [ZODB-Dev] Author ZoDB Books - Packt Publishing. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Kshipra Singh kship...@packtpub.com wrote: Hi All, I am writing to you for Packt Publishing, the publishers of computer related books. We are planning to expand the catalogue of our books on databases and are looking forward to publish some books on NoSQL. Currently we are inviting people interested in writing NoSQL books for Packt. This doesn't need any past writing experience. All that we need is an expert subject knowledge, a passion to share it with others and an ability to communicate clearly in English. So, if you love ZoDB and fancy writing a book, send your book ideas to us at aut...@packtpub.com. Even if you don't have a book idea and are simply interested in writing a book, we are still keen to hear from you. More details about the opportunity are available at: http://authors.packtpub.com/content/inviting-open-source-nosql-databases-fanatics-write-packt +1 for a Book about ZODB. There should be one or two chapters about using ZODB with Zope 2, Grok BlueBream. May be with with non-Zope frameworks like Pylons/Django (I am not sure whether anyone has done that). Regards, Baiju M ___ For more information about ZODB, see the ZODB Wiki: http://www.zope.org/Wikis/ZODB/ ZODB-Dev mailing list - ZODB-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zodb-dev
Re: [ZODB-Dev] Author ZoDB Books - Packt Publishing.
Hi Baiju, On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 6:06 AM, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.com wrote: On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Kshipra Singh kship...@packtpub.com wrote: Hi All, [cut] More details about the opportunity are available at: http://authors.packtpub.com/content/inviting-open-source-nosql-databases-fanatics-write-packt +1 for a Book about ZODB. There should be one or two chapters about using ZODB with Zope 2, Grok BlueBream. May be with with non-Zope frameworks like Pylons/Django (I am not sure whether anyone has done that). I think that is a better idea to focus specifically in ZODB and use one or two chapters to cover integration with Web Frameworks. I believe that it's time to put ZODB inside the NoSQL 'hype' and write a book to show ZODB as a good alternative to CouchDB, MongoDB, etc for Python developers. I would like to suggest the following topics in this book: - How ZODB works (Pickle, Storages, multi-/Databases, Connection, ...) - How to use the persistent objects - Index objects and search/get object (catalog, full-text search, etc) - Change persistent objects (scheme evolution, automating scripts, ...) - Debug and Profile applications - Scaling (ZEO, cache, memcache, RelStorage, ...) - Manage (pack, backup, fix data corruptions(?), ...) - Integrating with Web Frameworks (Django, Zope, Pylons, bfg.repoze, ...) Cover these topics developing a 'real-world application' example would be even better. I really like to see this book but I can't write it because (as you can see) I don't have the right english skills to write something bigger than an e-mail message (and I'm not a ZODB expert either). Thanks, Osvaldo PS. I'm working on a django-zodb application to use ZODB with Django. You can take a look (and contribute) in our GitHub project page: http://github.com/triveos/django-zodb -- Osvaldo Santana Neto -- Triveos Tecnologia Cel.: +55 41 9244 1646 ___ For more information about ZODB, see the ZODB Wiki: http://www.zope.org/Wikis/ZODB/ ZODB-Dev mailing list - ZODB-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zodb-dev
Re: [ZODB-Dev] Author ZoDB Books - Packt Publishing.
Hi Kshipra, all, On 2010-05-06, Kshipra Singh kship...@packtpub.com wrote: So, if you love ZoDB and fancy writing a book, send your book ideas to = us at aut...@packtpub.com. Even if you don't have a book idea and are = simply interested in writing a book, we are still keen to hear from you. = I'll throw in a +1 for a ZODB book. In particular, I'd love to see/read about using it outside of Zope 2, ZTK, etc. Also, a getting to know the ZODB section with diagnostic tools, etc. would be awesome. ZODB sharding also comes to mind (courtesy of Elizabeth Leddy's recent Plone Conf talk). I don't know who will step forward, but I know that Calvin from Six Feet Up loves the ZODB, so maybe he will write it :-) Alex =20 More details about the opportunity are available at: = http://authors.packtpub.com/content/inviting-open-source-nosql-databases-= fanatics-write-packt =20 Thanks Kshipra Singh Author Relationship Manager Packt Publishing www.PacktPub.com =20 Skype: kshiprasingh15 Twitter: http://twitter.com/packtauthors Interested in becoming an author? Visit http://authors.packtpub.com for = all the information you need about writing for Packt. --=_NextPart_000_0510_01CAED21.5A1A57E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN HTMLHEAD META content=3Dtext/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type META name=3DGENERATOR content=3DMSHTML 8.00.6001.18828 STYLE/STYLE /HEAD BODY bgColor=3D#ff DIVFONT size=3D2 face=3DArialHi All, BRnbsp;BRI am writing to = you for Packt=20 Publishing, the publishers of computer related books. BRnbsp;BRWe = are=20 planning to expand the catalogue of our books on databases and are = looking=20 forward to publish some books on NoSQL. /FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=3D2 face=3DArial/FONTnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT size=3D2 face=3DArialCurrently we are inviting people = interested in=20 writing NoSQL books for Packt. This doesn't need any past writing = experience.=20 All that we need is an expert subject knowledge, a passion to share it = with=20 others and an ability to communicate clearly in = English.BRnbsp;BRSo, if you=20 lovenbsp;ZoDB and fancy writing a book, send your book ideas to us at = A=20 href=3Dmailto:aut...@packtpub.com;aut...@packtpub.com/A. Even if you = don't=20 have a book idea and are simply interested in writing a book, we are = still keen=20 to hear from you. BRnbsp;BRMore details about the opportunity are = available=20 at: A=20 href=3Dhttp://authors.packtpub.com/content/inviting-open-source-nosql-da= tabases-fanatics-write-packthttp://authors.packtpub.com/content/invitin= g-open-source-nosql-databases-fanatics-write-packt/ABRnbsp;BRThank= sBRKshipra=20 SinghBRAuthor Relationship ManagerBRPackt PublishingBRA=20 href=3Dhttp://www.PacktPub.com;www.PacktPub.com/ABRnbsp;BRSkype:= =20 kshiprasingh15BRTwitter: A=20 href=3Dhttp://twitter.com/packtauthors;http://twitter.com/packtauthors= /A/FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=3D2 face=3DArial/FONTnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT size=3D2 face=3DArialInterested in becoming an author? Visit = A=20 href=3Dhttp://authors.packtpub.com;http://authors.packtpub.com/A for = all the=20 information you need about writing for = Packt.BR/DIV/FONT/BODY/HTML --=_NextPart_000_0510_01CAED21.5A1A57E0-- --===640993503914020== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ___ For more information about ZODB, see the ZODB Wiki: http://www.zope.org/Wikis/ZODB/ ZODB-Dev mailing list - ZODB-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zodb-dev --===640993503914020==-- -- Alex Clark · http://aclark.net Author of Plone 3.3 Site Administration · http://aclark.net/plone-site-admin ___ For more information about ZODB, see the ZODB Wiki: http://www.zope.org/Wikis/ZODB/ ZODB-Dev mailing list - ZODB-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zodb-dev
Re: [ZODB-Dev] Author ZoDB Books - Packt Publishing.
I think a ZODB book would be a wonderful edition to Packt's NoSQL library. I really believe the ZODB book should *not* talk about any web framework integration. There is plenty of information to convey about ZODB without talking about integrating it into external projects. It would be great if the book, at some later date, would have opportunity to be released under CC license. The ZODB project needs external facing documentation. I just got back from a conference where I met one of the MongoDB guys. Obviously mongo is a different animal. The features I saw that were interesting: - Indexing/Querying support. - Ability to auto - (in/de)crement counters on records. - Language independent bindings for MongoDB If a ZODB book is written I would highly suggest detailing a indexing/querying strategy Even if it is use zope.catalog/zope.index with some examples. fwiw, alan ___ For more information about ZODB, see the ZODB Wiki: http://www.zope.org/Wikis/ZODB/ ZODB-Dev mailing list - ZODB-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zodb-dev
Re: [ZODB-Dev] Author ZoDB Books - Packt Publishing.
How about this: I will research and write such book *if* the contract allows its release under a CC license. Is Packt willing to do that? Carlos de la Guardia On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Alan Runyan runy...@gmail.com wrote: I think a ZODB book would be a wonderful edition to Packt's NoSQL library. I really believe the ZODB book should *not* talk about any web framework integration. There is plenty of information to convey about ZODB without talking about integrating it into external projects. It would be great if the book, at some later date, would have opportunity to be released under CC license. The ZODB project needs external facing documentation. I just got back from a conference where I met one of the MongoDB guys. Obviously mongo is a different animal. The features I saw that were interesting: - Indexing/Querying support. - Ability to auto - (in/de)crement counters on records. - Language independent bindings for MongoDB If a ZODB book is written I would highly suggest detailing a indexing/querying strategy Even if it is use zope.catalog/zope.index with some examples. fwiw, alan ___ For more information about ZODB, see the ZODB Wiki: http://www.zope.org/Wikis/ZODB/ ZODB-Dev mailing list - zodb-...@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zodb-dev ___ For more information about ZODB, see the ZODB Wiki: http://www.zope.org/Wikis/ZODB/ ZODB-Dev mailing list - ZODB-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zodb-dev
[ZODB-Dev] [Blobs] Rsyncing Data.fs/Blob files updated/replace upon object changes?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The current backup strategy for backing up a Data.fs with blob storage seems to be using repozo for the Data.fs and rsync for the blob storage. Rsyncing the blob storage makes only sense when it would be possible to restore a particular blob file for a given restoration date. So: assuming that a persistent object is managed as a blob...what will happen on the filesystem level with the blob file upon a change to this object? Will the ZODB create a new blob file with the changed content or will it override/update the existing one? Andreas -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkvjlmAACgkQCJIWIbr9KYxAfACfbZBFfZos6khiHxsIrrqSNHnF BsoAoOMRJRjFucVknxU5O/jjMMkf3IyT =XkAm -END PGP SIGNATURE- attachment: lists.vcf___ For more information about ZODB, see the ZODB Wiki: http://www.zope.org/Wikis/ZODB/ ZODB-Dev mailing list - ZODB-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zodb-dev
