[Zope-dev] ZModules - A loaded gun
i wrote up an interface to allow for module registration in the dtml
namespace, _
its got major caveats, but it might be useful for some.
at the moments its just a stop gap till the new python methods come
along. at the moment if just allows for people to write more code in
dtml:( or ttw python methods.
it might be useful to allow ttw developers access to some modules
without allowing them use of XXXpython_methods since the configuration
file that defines the imported modules resides on the FS.
an example use
dtml-let y="_.poplib.POP3('mail.earthlink.net')"
dtml-var "y.welcome"
dtml-var "y.user('kthangavelu')"
dtml-var "y.pass_('ipc9@longbeach')"
dtml-var "y.stat()"
/dtml-let
and the response
+OK EarthLink POP server (version: EL_3_10 ) at pop04.earthlink.net.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
+OK Password required for kthangavelu.
+OK kthangavelu has 0 messages (0 octets).
(0, 0)
personally i thinks it better to just pass the module off to a python
method
and let it do the work. real coding in dtml is heinous, maybe even a
crime against humanity.
how it works.
it reads a module configuration from the FS. fmt is currently
module_name: class_name, class_name
it tries to import the module and than place the module in the namespace
dict.
- usual python discovery rules apply (python_path, curdir)
it sets the magic key __allow__access_to_unprotected_subobjects=1 on all
imported modules.
it allows you to define classes in modules those you want to interact
with. defining those classes allows you to interact meaningfully with
instances otherwise zope's security policy will bump you because the
container doesn't define proper permissions or the magic key.
caveats:
it hasn't had much testing, i did it as proof of concept and because i
had an itch.
you can't accces any attributes of any object that doesn't define
__allow__access_to_unprotected_subobjects=1
an example where this is a pain, are getting filehandles back from
libraries,
like urllib.urlopen (note. urllib is not ts).
BE VERY VERY WARY OF THREAD SAFETY ISSUES
it might be very much like holding a loaded gun to your server;)
possible improvements:
allow for nested modules classes
?
if people think this is useful enough, i'll package it up as a product.
installation.
create a directory in your products folder (mines called ZModules)
drop in the attached file.
write a configuration file
restart zope
sample config file.
poplib:POP3
mimetypes
Cheers
Kapil
# DISTRIBUTED UNDER THE ZPL
# Author [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# made for zope, www.zope.org
import App
import App.Common
import Globals
import os
from DocumentTemplate import DT_Util
from DocumentTemplate.DT_Util import d
from string import strip,split,replace
config_path=os.path.join(App.Common.package_home(globals()), 'zmodules.config')
fh = open(config_path)
modules_list=fh.readlines()
#print 'read config file'
counter = 0
for module in modules_list:
module = strip(module)
module = replace(module, '\012', '')
if len(module) = 1:
continue
module_config = split(module, ':')
if len(module_config) 1:
classes = split(module_config[1], ',')
else : classes = []
module = strip(module_config[0])
module_name = module[:]
try:
exec('import %s'%(module))
except:
continue
loaded_mod = eval(module)
s_classes = classes[:]
for class_name in classes:
class_name=strip(class_name)
if len(class_name) == 0: continue
try:
getattr(loaded_mod,
class_name).__allow_access_to_unprotected_subobjects__=1
except:
s_classes.pop(s.index(s_classes))
d[module_name] = loaded_mod
loaded_mod.__allow_access_to_unprotected_subobjects__=1
print 'success: loaded module %s and classes %s'%(module_name, s_classes)
Re: [Zope-dev] MySQL : help !
I can send you one, but if building it is giving you lots of problems, you may have larger problems, and the _mysql I send may not really help. Building should be sort-of straight forward. What version of ZMysqlDA are you using? What version of Mysql? What errors are you getting? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need the binarie file named _msql does anybody got it (for any Linux)? Because I can't build this file : I've got too many errors Thanks in advance Jérôme DIEBOLD ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] I feel your Wiki Pain ;-)
Toby Dickenson wrote: How about running the 'Discussion' parts of (in particular) dev.zope.org from ZDiscussions, ZUBB or Squishdot? This may be a good idea... What's wrong with a mailing list? Is this just a case of NIH? Setting up a mailing list for each proposal is painful. Setting up a Squishdot site for each proposal takes 5 minutes, and could even be worked into a 'Create New Proposal' DTML or Python method... Chris ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Email the changes
Toby Dickenson wrote: The ability to subscribe for notification (above) and/or to track what you personally have seen, and not, is intended for this kind of thing. It would keep me happy if the notification includes a link to the new content (rather than a link to the page that contains new content). Even better, the email notification could *include* the new content. ...yes :-) Something like a diff would be great :-) The only quoting you need to know is example:: The two colons after the word "example" indicate that this contained block is all quoted. How is a 'contained block' delimited? Perhaps I should rephrase my objection. The *real* problem is that this isnt happening - discussion is stored in Wiki pages like http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Proposals/XxxxDiscussion Good point :-) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] mailing list 'noise'
Toby Dickenson wrote: I dont see this as a problem: You only create a new list when the traffic for that proposal gets too great for zope-dev. Threading is good enough before that point. Yes, but zope-dev has a relatively high traffic load... Why should you have to put up with all that 'noise' if you're only interested in posts for your comparatively small discussion? Chris ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] XHTML Templates comments from the peanut gallery
(sorry I'm so late on this, things have been hectic :-( ) Paul Everitt wrote: o Allow those presentation tools to work by having well-formed markup (e.g. no separation into header and footer) Hmmm... I wonder how refactoring, which _header and _footer were really useful for, will happen now... o Match the appropriate level of capability currently in DTML usage That's interesting. I see a lot of DTML's problems being caused because it is 'overcapable'... Zope should move to an architecture with clear separation of presentation, data, and logic, with clear concepts in Zope for these tiers and audiences. :-)) The presentation tier will get a tremendous usability increase by allowing round trip presentation with common tools. This also ensures that Site Designers finish with the same stuff they started with, meaning the programmers don't come in and cast their work into "code". :-)) The architecture should make sure those presentation tools are effective by having well-formed markup (e.g. no separation into header and footer). ...still not sure what this means The new presentation architecture should match the appropriate level of capability currently in DTML usage. For instance, common idioms like browse-by-batch should be possible. ...that's going to be a fine line to tread :-S Site Designers want simple reuse of content within reach of standard tools. For instance, the Site Designer wants a standard copyright "asset" on the bottom of every page. How does this fit with the "no separation into header and footer" thing? The presentation architecture should not know about the details of the data tier or the logic tier. Rather, the presentation architecture will just provide a view onto the model expressed in the object system, where the model uses standard APIs. ...not 100% on what that means... A **page** is the result of applying presentation to data in the object system. A page is a particular result of a URL when viewed under certain conditions. ...I'd like to add to this: components used to make up 'page's should not be URL-visible. Why should they be? (would this raise issues with XML-RPC?) Ultimately, data such as documents will be matched to a presentation according to implicit and explicit rules. The simple case will be simple (invisible); the complex, custom cases will be straightforward. In the initial rev of the architecture, only one presentation will be implicit for a resource. Other presentations of that resource will require explicit traversal to obtain them. ...that's a little unclear :-S Site Designers will create XHTML Template objects that control Where can I find out more about XHTML? XHTML Templates will be complete, well-formed HTML that look like a resource will look when the XHTML Template is applied to it. There will be no "source vs. rendered" issue. Does this mean the 'rendered' stuff could be considered 'bloated' as it contains stuff only needed for what would have been the 'source' editing mode? The connectors will allow different "modes" that provide the alternation and conditional facilities present in DTML. These modes are just simple attributes to extend the semantics of existing XHTML tags. This sounds interesting... The XHTML Template architecture will facilitate re-use by allowing blocks in the XHTML Template to be named as a (component/library/asset) block. As the Site Designer authors and updates the block of XHTML, Zope saves the named block as a separate object in Zope. This named object can then be used in other XHTML Templates. ...that was confusing... DTML has permitted the rendering on non-markup such as SMTP messages. The XHTML Template does not try to satisfy this job. Other objects, such as DTML Methods or Python Methods, would have to handle this chore. :-( (but I can see why it has to be so...) Clarifying the "DTML namespace" confusion felt by authors is not in the scope of this proposal. Is it being covered anywhere else? *Replacing magic with magic*. If too much magical stuff happens (e.g. how data gets implicitly bound in different ways to presentation, the component idea creating new stuff in the background) for people to handle, we're just replacing the confusing old magic with the confusing new magic. Hmmm Well, sorry for being so late on this. I hope I haven't made too many comments that other people have already. The proposal looks really cool and should hopefully take a lot of the pain out of developing the presentation layer in Zope... cheers, Chris ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
[Zope-dev] A few Questions
Title: A few Questions Hello I just joined so sorry if you have answered these before or if it the right place to ask but : I have a 4 new sites in Zope that is mirrored on two servers and load balanced. A third server is for qa and editing in Zope. Now , is there a way to have a python script go into Zope and delete all the acl users and pack the database ? ( for when a script copies the Data.fs into the live environment) Also is it possible to have the management only run via :8080 and be an error is tried via http://foobar.com/manage The apache is built via pcgi and redirects. I would like to be able to have apache serve out Zope on one nic and kill the port 8080 and the other serve all ports . If you have any ideas please email and I will get more in depth as far as I can anyways. Keith Larson Web Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Zope-dev] WikiDot
On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Chris Withers wrote:
4.Some people think Wiki discussions are easily dispersed. Bad Wiki
discussions are, but discussion products are almost always dispersed by
nature. On many occasions I have (already) seen people summarize and
structure maillist discussions into a Wiki web.
Yes, but does that mean the Wiki is good for the initial discussion?
The point you've cited seems to be about something else (why wikis can
work for discussions, not why they're good for setting them up). My
response to your challenge is that the lack of a clearly designated
document or other artifact as the focus of a discussion can, and, i
think, usually does, lead to drift in the discussion. In weblogs, the
document at the top anchors the discussion. In our proposals site,
the proposals serve as (evolving) subjects of the discussion.
I don't think anyone disagrees that wiki pages as they stand are
imperfect for discussions. I strongly feel (with lots of experience)
that mailling lists are also flawed, sorta complementarily, for
getting definite results out of discussions. Both work with some
effort, i think many of us feel that a insightful hybrid could reap
more than the benefits of both.
The Wikis on the
dev.zope site do a bit of this with delegating discussion to a
discussion
page.
Yes, but that's only advisory, it's not enforced...
What's your point? It seems to work, though there's possibility for
it to breakdown. We recognize that possibility is significant, and
would like to address it - hence the WikiNG proposal, and many other
expressions of desire to fix these sorts of things. Actually, we're
sorely chafing under lack of such fixes, but we can't afford to
neglect our other commitments (clients, including zope community!) at
the moment to do so. And we feel that we're better off, for the time
being, with fixed points as the focus of proposal discussions, for
instance.
Most of these points are addressed in the proposal, but what I wanted to
add is the notion of the necessity of integrating the three types of
discussion into one product. That would make for a new generation. How
would that look then:
snip Memepool equivalent
Funny you should say that. Some other people I'm chatting to have come
up with roughly the same ideas...
We discussed (in a off-list discussion) a point of karls, that the
tracker and weblog can map onto eachother, with some structural
provisions. I can see something very similar with wikis.
(This came out of a discussion with ethan - we were wondering how the
WikiNG stuff fits in with the PTK. We came up with a bunch of stuff
that i really like, including this vision of integration with
s{qu,w}ishdot - just a concept, to demonstrate the kinds of things
that would be possible - i'm not looking to impose it on you if it
doesn't seem suitable to you.)
A weblog could constitute a wiki space, with the topic message being
the FrontPage and the threads hanging off of it being nested wiki
pages. The discussion pages would automatically get names, per their
nesting status - LogSub1Sub2 or something, overridable by the page
author to have semantic significance. The benefits:
- Structured text.
- Easy for authors to refer to other messages in the discussion by
name, using wiki references.
- Wiki organizational features - table-of-contents view, ability to
adjust nesting situation in the discussion (modulo the weblogs
policy - often the owner may disallow any such adjustment, but in
some cases it would make sense).
- With WikiNG's prospective notification mechanism, people could
"subscribe" to email notifications for any changes - additions,
edits, etc - within threads/subthreads, or just for additions at
top levels of threads. The latter is like "executive summary"
monitoring, wanting to know only when the uppermost parts of the
discussions change, without having to worry about changes to the
outlying parts of the discussion tree.
- With email-in wiki pages [i have to comment on mj's proposal, i
have similar ideas in the WikiNG proposal, but haven't had time to
evaluate his specifics!], people could use their subscriptions to
hierarchies within the weblog to make their contributions via email
- often for submitting new messages, but perhaps sometimes for
annotating existing ones, a la...
- With WikiNG editing policy control, the weblog *could* have a
policy that allows authors to amend their messages - eg, to insert
or append comments to their existing messages. Or to edit their
messages, if that fits the task at hand. (Eg, if what they're
doing is collaboratively developing a document.) The basic case
would not allow this, for more classic, conventional weblog
conduct.
Lots of good stuff. The essential thing in this perspective is seeing
the weblog as a structured viewing mode for the contents of the wiki -
or the wiki as being an substrate for the
Re: [Zope-dev] mailing list 'noise'
On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Chris Withers wrote: Toby Dickenson wrote: I dont see this as a problem: You only create a new list when the traffic for that proposal gets too great for zope-dev. Threading is good enough before that point. Yes, but zope-dev has a relatively high traffic load... Why should you have to put up with all that 'noise' if you're only interested in posts for your comparatively small discussion? Yeah - maillists flow by, and not everyone can follow all the traffic all the time!! The cool thing about "content-based" mailling lists, where people can subscribe to notifications about changes in subthreads, is that you just subscribe to the part of the discussion that has your interests!! -- Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Namespace trouble
Hello everyone,
if've had little namespace problems with this code-snipped (dtml-method):
dtml-with REQUEST
dtml-in "[1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8]"
dtml-call "REQUEST.set('row_index',_['sequence-index'])"
dtml-var "REQUEST.get('row_index')"
dtml-var row_index
/dtml-in
/dtml-with
This produces an output like this: 0,0,0,0,0,0,... The zero is the first
index set by REQUEST.set... The running index isn't reflected into the
current namespace. Why not ? It know it depends on dtml-with REQUEST, but
it didn't find an answer.
Thanks for any comment,
martin
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[Zope-dev] 'REQUEST' lost on DTML rendering
I have a Product which works fine under Zope 2.1.6 but am having trouble moving it to 2.2.1 This product creates temporary instances of objects and then uses __bobo_traverse__ to traverse class operators specified in the URL which create the objects that are rendered via DTML methods. The very first time one of these objects is called (after tehe server is started), all works fine. With all subsequest calls, the DTML methods which render the results cannot locate the REQUEST dictionary anymore. My class methods can still see the REQUEST dictionary just fine with every call, but REQUEST apparently gets lost between when the bobo_traverse returns and when the DTML renderer starts. (and yes, this all worked fine prior to 2.2x :^) I'm stumped. How could the REQUEST object get passed the first time to the DTML renderer and never thereafter? What changed thereabouts? Thanks ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] XHTML Templates comments from the peanut gallery
Paul Everitt wrote:
o Allow those presentation tools to work by having well-formed
markup (e.g. no separation into header and footer)
to which Chris Withers replied:
Hmmm... I wonder how refactoring, which _header and _footer were really
useful for, will happen now...
The most obvious problem was that _header + _footer idiom was presented in
a way that resulted in tags being opened in _header, and cosed in _footer.
I personally adopted this as a "Good Example" of how to use Zope, and had
created quite a mess for myself before a post on one of the lists pointed
out how genuinley horrible this is, from a well-formedness point of view.
Duh!
Still, it's just not that big a trick to factor out the HEAD tag as a
monolith, and insert references to other pieces parts inside the HTML tag
that used to be included in _header, but now appears as a "hard coded"
element in the "presentation" document. On the surface it may look like
you wind up with things more scattered about, but as far as factoring, it's
manageable. Even in the worst case, my _headers tended to be made up of
references to other elements that had been factored out anyhow. Same applies
to _footer, and other items.
So, there is a change in mind set, but not on the scale of a tectonic shift.
If we can get here:
Zope should move to an architecture with clear separation of
presentation, data, and logic, with clear concepts in Zope for these
tiers and audiences.
it will certainly be worth any adaptation that need to occur.
However, I am a bit puzzled regarding:
The presentation tier will get a tremendous usability increase by
allowing round trip presentation with common tools. This also
ensures that Site Designers finish with the same stuff they started
with, meaning the programmers don't come in and cast their work into
"code".
Folks really do want to use Dreamweaver et. al. to layout Web "pages",
that's verifiable. The proposal to meet this need is to "let the
designer see what they expect, but swap in a Zopification at run time".
That may be enough to fulfill the requirement, but it looks pretty pale
from this end. There is a very narrow band of "graphic stuff" that won't
need to be thoroughly Zopified ("cast into code") in the process of
adapting a designer's work. Most of the stuff that makes a Web site
useable, such as menus, navigation bars, etc. must be entirely transformed
into lists (tables) and scripts (DTML, Python methods, whatever) on the
way to maintainability nirvana. As for real Web Applications, the range
is even thinner.
The illusion of "round trip editing" may be enforcable this way, and
there may in fact be a long range plan to convert to a real implementation,
based on DOM, XSLT. If that's sufficient to get past the "let me do it
my way" objections of temperamental "Artists", so be it.
Site Designers want simple reuse of content within reach of standard
tools. For instance, the Site Designer wants a standard copyright
"asset" on the bottom of every page.
This is easy enough to provide for, but the proposal seems to imply that
a "hard copy" of each "asset" will be inserted in the designed "page",
but a Zopification of that asset will appear in the served "page". Of
course that's quite feasible with Zope, change an "asset", all instances
will be composed, at serve time, to display the updated "asset".
Then, all the designers have to do is go back, and hand edit every
"dummy" instance that's just there to keep them contented, because those
"hard copies" aren't going to be updated, since they are not accessible
by Zope. What has been gained here?
Site Designers will create XHTML Template objects that control
This sounds great, but are these the same folks who can't live without
their Dreamweaver? Now they're going to design XHTML Templates? My
guess is that the designer will create an HTML "page", and a Zope jockey
will tuck some references inside some tags that point to other goodies
that were concocted far from the gaze of the "designer", and essentially
override the original. Hopefully the designer won't notice those new
little gotchas hiding in the tags, and will leave them where they are.
Can you say "element level locking"?
XHTML Templates will be complete, well-formed HTML that look like a
resource will look when the XHTML Template is applied to it. There
will be no "source vs. rendered" issue.
Except for the "dummy assets" which will only be an "artists conception"
of the rendered "resource", if I'm getting this right.
The XHTML Template architecture will facilitate re-use by allowing
blocks in the XHTML Template to be named as a
(component/library/asset) block. As the Site Designer authors and
updates the block of XHTML, Zope saves the named block as a separate
object in Zope. This named object can then be used in other XHTML
Templates.
Will it be up to the designer then, to see that
Re: [Zope-dev] WikiDot
On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Chris Withers wrote: These are the kinds of things i'm hoping to get at with WikiNG - a smart content widget, with two essential features - good impedence matching to authoring structured, linked content (structured text plus wiki refs), A lot of people I know would disagree with the Structured Text bit, but I guess it'll have to do for now. Wysiwig editing on the web hasn't arrived yet :-( (I wonder whether having a single quick ref page for structured text, linked to on every edit form, would go a long way to reducing those objections. Particularly if the quick ref page is clear and concise.) and intrinsically determined and easily adjustable organization. 'Easily adjustable' could be difficult... I was just referring to the ease of reparenting a page - if this isn't familiar to you, see the backlinks pages in any zope.org zwiki. Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Email the changes
On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Chris Withers wrote: The only quoting you need to know is example:: The two colons after the word "example" indicate that this contained block is all quoted. How is a 'contained block' delimited? As i did in my example, by indentation. (This is a primary component of the "structure" in StructuredText. Maybe we're not being clear enough about that in our explanations of structured text - i would expect that not knowing about it could make it much much harder to understand what's going on, in general, with StructuredText!) Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] some suggestion..
Hi! While trying to code some python Product I had the need for extending manage_delObjects in some Folderlike object. I simply want to call the the ObjectManager's version of it and then do my own stuff afterwards (like deleting some other dependant objects). Unfortunately when calling manage_delObjects() one cannot decide if some error occured or everything went ok as in both cases I get back some string (be it some html formatted error message or the manage_main dialog). So what about splitting these methods in two, e.g. one _delObjects() and one manage_delObjects(). The first one would the the actual work like testing for error conditions and deleting the objects and the other one would be the one called by the management interface. manage_delObjects() would then call _delObjects() and checks for errors afterwards generating some error message or the next dialog. The errors could then be passed via exceptions or similar methods from _delObjects() to manage_delObjects(). This would make subclassing a lot easier and would be at least a start in separating layout from logic. Just an idea :) cheers, Christian PS: Maybe it would even make XMLRPC more usable as there I also get back only html formatted error messages instead of something making more sense for a script (like an error code or something). -- COM.lounge http://comlounge.net/ communication design [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] zope2.2.2 - ZopeTime not available to users defined in acl_users belowthe root?the root?
Here's a problem which bit me today. I'd delegated someone to manage a Yihaw directory. zope 2.2.2 source running on a sun. make a folder at the root (eg /foo) with an acl_user folder there define a new user in the foo acl_user folder (eg foobar) with manager/owner rights add a dtml method to view ZopeTime (eg dtml-var ZopeTime ) view it and see the current time. It's owned by a real manager and it works as expected. Now, close your browser down and authenticate as foobar and try to view the page. You'll get: Zope Error Zope has encountered an error while publishing this resource. Error Type: KeyError Error Value: ZopeTime Traceback (innermost last): File /udd/rerla/zope222/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 222, in publish_module File /udd/rerla/zope222/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 187, in publish File /udd/rerla/zope222/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 221, in zpublisher_exception_hook (Object: Traversable) File /udd/rerla/zope222/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 171, in publish File /udd/rerla/zope222/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py, line 160, in mapply (Object: test) File /udd/rerla/zope222/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 112, in call_object (Object: test) File /udd/rerla/zope222/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 172, in __call__ (Object: test) File /udd/rerla/zope222/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 528, in __call__ (Object: test) KeyError: (see above) Note, it's not unauthorised - it's just not in the namespace. ZopeAttributionButton is defined in the same Application.py but it works fine. I even tried adding ZopeTime__roles__=None to no avail. What gives??? ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] zope2.2.2 - ZopeTime security thing
ross wrote: KeyError: (see above) Note, it's not unauthorised - it's just not in the namespace. IIRC, the new way for security errors like this to work is to throw a keyerror. So, it's probably a permissions problem manifesting itself as a KeyError. Try installing Shane Hathaway's ZDebug and see what that reveals :-) cheers, Chris ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] XHTML Templates comments from the peanut gallery
Chris Withers writes: A **page** is the result of applying presentation to data in the object system. A page is a particular result of a URL when viewed under certain conditions. I'd like to add to this: components used to make up 'page's should not be URL-visible. Why should they be? (would this raise issues with XML-RPC?) Because, you want to access them for management purposes (e.g. change them). Site Designers will create XHTML Template objects that control Where can I find out more about XHTML? -- http://www.w3c.org Dieter ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] XHTML Templates comments from the peanut gallery
Chris Withers writes: A **page** is the result of applying presentation to data in the object system. A page is a particular result of a URL when viewed under certain conditions. I'd like to add to this: components used to make up 'page's should not be URL-visible. Why should they be? (would this raise issues with XML-RPC?) whereupon Dieter Maurer responded: Because, you want to access them for management purposes (e.g. change them). and, conceptually at least, this should facilitate displaying the hypothetical "block" resources as "include virtual" sorts of beasties, on the inside of some next generation hyper-editing environment. Zopefully, Jerry S. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] RE: XHTML Templates comments from the peanut gallery
However, the focus of the new Template architecture will be a new format based on XHTML. This XHTML Template will be focused on giving Site Designers round trip presentation authoring using the dominant tools such as Dreamweaver. XHTML Templates will be complete, well-formed HTML that look like a resource will look when the XHTML Template is applied to it. There will be no "source vs. rendered" issue. In this Presentation Architecture, Site Designers can start mocking up a Zope site by editing real HTML and graphics in Zope from the very beginning. There will be nothing Zope-ish in what they are doing. As the mockups turn into live content, certain regions of the XHTML Template will be "connected" to the live content. This is done by indicating the object data that will be inserted when the XHTML Template is applied to content. This all seems like a good idea but its hard its not very concrete. I proposed something very similar about a year ago. http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/1999-September/001624.html It was an extension to DTML that enabled the use of documents that were rendered html and dtml source combined. This gives you round trip wysiwyg editing without "doing away" with the whole DTML scripting thing. A designer might make a mockup, the coder would then zopify it by putting in iterations etc in DTML as they normally would. The designer could then view the document in "design-mode" that would render the DTML but keep special tags in place around the rendered content that contained the code. Whent the designer saved back this version there would be a spcial "design-mode" compiler that would work out all the DTML objects etc the relevent bits of content (and code) belonged to. Content relating to any object that the designer doesn't have permission to edit or the content was dynamic like from a database, just gets discarded. This solution seems to achieve most of your aims for XHTML but without some of the weird architecture changes. Dylan Jay Avaya Communication. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog with UTF-8 Chinese
On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Sin Hang Kin wrote:
After reading some code of query, I think the regular expression operations
which in parse, quotes and parse2 were not safe for utf8 string. So, I
That wouldn't surprise me.
decide to emulate what they do. However, I do not understand what getlexicon
is doing and I would like to learn what q should looks like before it is
passed to evaluate. I do not understand that vocabulary seems to store like
integer, is getlexicon a step to look up the string to convert them to
integer? I am getting lost.
I don't fully understand Lexicon myself, but I've at least spent some
time groveling around in the code. I understand there's been a relatively
recent checkin of a new version of the text index stuff that at least
provides clearer variable names and additional comments; if you aren't
working from cvs version you might want to browse the files on the
cvs web interface.
So, here's what I understand:
The lexicon takes words and associates them with integers. It is the
integers that are stored in the text index. So in the final stages
of the search process, the parsed words are looked up in the lexicon
to get the integer, and the integer is then passed to the index
to get back the result set (list of documents containing the word).
The result set is itself a list of integers. I think it is in fact
pairs (or some more complex data structure); at the least the index
stores the document number and the word offset (I think it's a word
offset) of the word into the document.
As for what q looks like...well, I haven't grovelled through the
parse, quote, parens, and parse2 code much, so I'm guess a bit here:
I *think* that before it goes into evaluate q is a list of sequences
or words, where the sequences are a list of sequences or
wordsrecursive. The sub-sequences would be the parenthesized
expressions from the original string. In the original string, any
occurences of the pair of words 'and not' were replaced by 'andnot'.
Any quoted strings (double quotes only, I believe) were replaced
by sequences of words separated by the 'near' operator ('...').
parse2 makes sure that every other item in q is an operator, by
sticking the default operator, 'or', in between any pairs that
aren't separated by an operator.
If I'm right, an expression like:
This is and not a (good "test of") searching
should end up feeding to evaluate a 'q' like this:
('this', 'or', 'is', 'andnot', 'a', 'or', ('good', 'or', ('test', '...'
'of')), 'or', 'searching')
I'm least sure of those parens around test...of.
Maybe this will at least give you a clue to enable you to figure
out what the code *really* does grin.
--RDM
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[Zope-dev] why cant i rename an object from an external method
Heres a treat. I'm trying to write an external method to rename objects. I have approx 10,000 to rename so a script would be nice. No problem I thought, imitate a forms manage_renameObject and CopySupport.py can do the work. Rename works fine from the web form, but not from a script. (ASPNTools.getsomeobjectsfromstring returns a bunch of objects, Ive tried replicating this with resolve_url and get different namespace error, could this be a clue?). Heres my script: def search(self, REQUEST=None): l = ASPNTools.getsomeobjectsfromstring(self, REQUEST['path'], REQUEST) for obj in l: ob = obj.aq_parent # get the folder ob.manage_renameObject(obj.id(), 'Foo') return 'renamed' Here's my problem: The object 100BASEFX does not support this operation File d:\p4\Zope-dev\lib\python\Products\ASPN/Extensions/foo_rename.py, line 6, in search (Object: 100BASEFX) File d:\p4\Zope-dev\lib\python\OFS\CopySupport.py, line 288, in manage_renameObject (Object: Traversable) File d:\p4\Zope-dev\lib\python\OFS\CopySupport.py, line 406, in _verifyObjectPaste (Object: Traversable) Copy Error: (see above) There surely must be simple way of doing this so I dont have to resort to writing a Perl script to imitate the browser, please! Thanks in advance as ever. -- Andy McKay, Developer. ActiveState. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] mailing list 'noise'
Ken Manheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Chris Withers wrote: Toby Dickenson wrote: I dont see this as a problem: You only create a new list when the traffic for that proposal gets too great for zope-dev. Threading is good enough before that point. Yes, but zope-dev has a relatively high traffic load... Why should you have to put up with all that 'noise' if you're only interested in posts for your comparatively small discussion? Yeah - maillists flow by, and not everyone can follow all the traffic all the time!! The cool thing about "content-based" mailling lists, where people can subscribe to notifications about changes in subthreads, is that you just subscribe to the part of the discussion that has your interests!! I haven't understood this gripe ever since I started reading mail with Gnus. Before anyone groans, I'm not sure that Gnus is ready for general use by anyone who doesn't want to learn elisp - but surely there's anther reader with these features? The point that I'm trying to make is that a mailing list has all the strucure needed to keep abreast of an important thread. I don't think it's perfect when you can't afford to miss a single important article, but it works great for general lists. Gnus treats mail news as the same, and allows you to score posters, threads, messages, etc. both manually and adaptively. Threads can be presented by order of their score. Adaptive scoring is what really makes it work. The normal reading commands - read article, kill thread, save article, catchup (mark unread articles as read) can affect the scores. So, reading articles in a thread tends to make it float to the top, and posters who contribute to well-read threads elevate future threads that they contribute to. The inverse for killed threads, less so for caught up threads. I can read comp.lang.python when it has 3000 unread articles, by skimming 100-500 articles, reading some, catching up or killing the rest, and saving other 2500 for later. I draw in what I'm interested in from the mass of unread articles first, each time, and the stuff that I rarely get around to is the stuff that I don't miss. Same with rec.bicycles.soc - when the article count gets to 200-300, I read the 2-10 articles that I'm probably interested in, and miss the 95% which is almost always noise. That's why I resist moving to other fora. I've never seen one that lets me use better tools. Okay, my download finished while I wrote this, back to work :) -- Karl Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] why cant i rename an object from an external method
Andy McKay wrote: Heres a treat. I'm trying to write an external method to rename objects. I have approx 10,000 to rename so a script would be nice. No problem I thought, imitate a forms manage_renameObject and CopySupport.py can do the work. Rename works fine from the web form, but not from a script. (ASPNTools.getsomeobjectsfromstring returns a bunch of objects, Ive tried replicating this with resolve_url and get different namespace error, could this be a clue?). I would try using _delObject and _setObject instead. manage_renameObject() does some security checks that don't apply in your case. Shane ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope] Add ZClass with other than Manager
Hendrik Naumann wrote: I there the posibility to Add an ZClass without writing an new Add_formular like in http://www.zope.org/Members/mukhsein/job_board_howto ? Yes. With this minor modification: http://www.zope.org/Members/taz/addZClasses -- Tim Cook -- Cook Information Systems | Office: (901) 884-4126 8am-5pm CDT * It's easy to stop making mistakes. Just stop having ideas. * FreePM Project Coordinator http://www.freepm.org OSHCA Founding Supporter http://www.oshca.org ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Adding user to folder
I would like to add a user to a folder that is being created via a form processing method with dtml-call "manage_addFolder(folderName,folderName,'createAUserFolder','createAPublicIn terface')" Now, since this folder does not exist yet except in the context of the script. How can I put a user in that above folder during execution? Is this where the _.namespace can be used to access what is in Zope's compiler stack during execution? Or, am I just way off and it is much less complicated than I think? TIA Scott ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Using GUF (generic user folder) under 2.2.x?
On Sat, 16 Sep 2000, Danny William Adair wrote: I've experienced the same problem with GUF (which is why I am desperately waiting for the LoginManager HOWTO). Everything looks fine first, but the login screen will keep reappearing. Which part of the walkthrough could be out of date, the password? ;-) Maybe you could say a word or two about what to consider under 2.2.1, Stuart. Usual things to check: Check the exceptions hidden in HTML comments in the login form. Make sure that the access exception that caused the login form to appear is from the document you tried to access, and not one of the GUF hooks. Grant access to the Anonymous role if required. Grant the Manager proxy role to all your hooks, and see if things start working. If it does, you can start trimming down permissions until you have tracked down exactly where the elevated provilidges are required. -- Stuart Bishop Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Systems Alchemist Play: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer Science, RMIT University ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Adding user to folder
Scott, Try something like (UNTESTED): dtml-with "_[folderName]" dtml-call "manage_users()" /dtml-with hth Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Scott Burton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Zope List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 7:12 AM Subject: [Zope] Adding user to folder I would like to add a user to a folder that is being created via a form processing method with dtml-call "manage_addFolder(folderName,folderName,'createAUserFolder','createAPublicIn terface')" Now, since this folder does not exist yet except in the context of the script. How can I put a user in that above folder during execution? Is this where the _.namespace can be used to access what is in Zope's compiler stack during execution? Or, am I just way off and it is much less complicated than I think? TIA Scott ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope Dies with FastCGI
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Ronald L. Roeber wrote: I have the following set-up under which Zope occasionally dies. Zope 2.2.2 (same happened with 2.2.0 and 2.2.1) RedHat Linux 6.2 Apache 1.3.12 - with fastcgi/2.2.8 and OpenSSL/0.95a what about apache error log? anything there? ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) -- http://www.kedai.com.my/kk http://www.kedai.com.my/eZine as you woke this morning, and open up your eyes, did you notice the tear stains lining your face were mine.. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Medusa from www.zope.org down ??
None yet. It's 6:30 am where the responsible parties are. As soon as they get up/in, it'll get fixed ASAP. - Original Message - From: "Francois-Regis CHALAOUX" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Receipt Notification Requested" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 6:30 AM Subject: [Zope] Medusa from www.zope.org down ?? HTTP/None 400 Bad Request Server: Medusa/1.16.4.3 Content-Type: text/html Content-Length: 136 Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 09:47:57 GMT Error response Error code 400. Message: Bad Request. Any information? FR ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] sequence-item is a String? (was: Calling objects with arguments in asequence)sequence)
If you do:
dtml-in "objectValues('Foo Thing')"
dtml-let thing=sequence-item
dtml-var "thing.id()"
/dtml-let
/dtml-in
You get TypeError: it claims thing is a string, so you can't perform any
kind of function call against it.
Some id attributes of Zope objects are methods, some are strings.
To account for every case:
dtml-in "objectValues('Foo Thing')"
dtml-let thing=sequence-item
dtml-try
dtml-var "thing.id()"
dtml-except TypeError
dtml-var "thing.id"
/dtml-try
/dtml-let
/dtml-in
The need to do this will soon go away with the new "getId()" method mixed in
to all Zope objects.
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Re: [Zope] sequence-item is called in dtml-let assignment?
seb wrote:
If you do:
dtml-in "objectValues('Foo Thing')"
dtml-let thing=sequence-item
dtml-var "thing.id()"
/dtml-let
/dtml-in
You get TypeError: it claims thing is a string, so you can't perform any
kind of function call against it.
Welcome to DTML...
what's happening, I guess, is that when you do
dtml-let thing=sequence-item
sequence-item is called (and hence rendered to a string) which screws
thigns up.
try:
dtml-in "objectValues('Foo Thing')"
dtml-let thing="_.getitem('sequence-item',0)
dtml-var "thing.id()"
/dtml-let
/dtml-in
cheers,
Chris
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RE: [Zope] Selection Property
You need to set up the "bandlist" method as the Value when adding the selection property, then make shure that the "bandlist" method is available from where you use the property sheet. Been there, done that, still no luck :) But in the dtml source for properties it says getProperty(select_variable). If I populate a lines type property in the current folder and then do dtml-return myProperty it works. Roché ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] IEMethod and Owner permissions
Hello I'm using the IEMethod product installed on Zope 2.1.6 In a folder object's security tab, I have set Owner to be allowed to change IEMethod, but an ACL User in that folder (being Owner) can't. When logged in as this Owner user, I can't change (File) my changes in the IEMethod. Any similar security setting for DTML Documents or DTML Methods works with this logic. Ideas? Solutions?
Re: [Zope] DTML entity syntax: was Nested properties (addition)
On 27 Sep 2000, 12:46 Lars Heber wrote: I forgot something: By the way: Is it possible to insert special characters in properties, like auml;? I meant, that properties with special characters in it are not displayed correctly, when called with the shortened syntax dtml-VARNAME;. Are special characters not allowed in the short syntax? auml; - amp;auml; See How-To: Using the DTML entity syntax snip The entity notation is an alternate syntax for the dtml-var tag. It is available since Zope 2.0. Here is a text snippet from the ZopeDir\doc\CHANGES.txt file for the 2.0.1 distribution (in a slightly adapted form) that explains it all: Zope 2.0 introduces a new HTML DTML syntax that, among other things, allows simple 'var' tags to be entered using the entity-reference syntax, as in: input name=myVar value="dtml-myVar;" The entity reference syntax is mainly intended for use when a var tag is used to insert text into an HTML tag. In these cases, the text needs to be html-quoted. For this reason, use of the entity reference syntax now implies html quoting. For example, the DTML snippet above is equivalent to: input name=myVar value="dtml-var myVar html_quote" -- o ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] (+49 2241) 14-2394 /\* GMD mbH #include _`\ `_=== Schloss Birlinghoven, std.disclaimer __(_)/_(_)___.-._ 53754 Sankt Augustin, Germany ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Reading/Parsing HTML Files from another server
On 28 Sep 2000, 16:01 Dicken, Peer wrote: I want to include a HTML file from another server (e.g. www.foo.com/include.html ) into the output of one of my DTML methods (index_html). See http://www.zope.org/Members/lstaffor/ZClientMethod "Using ZClient to Access Another Server" -- o ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] (+49 2241) 14-2394 /\* GMD mbH #include _`\ `_=== Schloss Birlinghoven, std.disclaimer __(_)/_(_)___.-._ 53754 Sankt Augustin, Germany ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] dtml-in sorting problem
Michael Bernstein wrote: Hello all, Here's my problem: I want to sort a list of objects on a property that not all items have. So I'm doing this: dtml-in sort=someProperty,someOtherProperty The problem is that those items that have a blank someProperty are listed first, when I want them at the bottom of the list. I don't want to reverse the entire sort order, I just want blank values treated as being larger than any other value. Any suggestions? Insert a chr(255) as the first character by default. It'll need to be trimmed off if the property becomes populated. -- Tim Cook -- Cook Information Systems | Office: (901) 884-4126 8am-5pm CDT * It's easy to stop making mistakes. Just stop having ideas. * FreePM Project Coordinator http://www.freepm.org OSHCA Founding Supporter http://www.oshca.org ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] email lists
Hi, Has anyone had any experience with storing a large list (several thousand) of email addresses in an object then sending an email to every one in the list through a MailHost? Will I need to send on email to all these addresses (multiple recipients), or one email for each person on the list. I am probably going to end up doing this totally within Zope since it is an easy solution to a problem, but am wondering whether I would be better off trying to get all the mail address into mailman or something. Terry. -- - Terry Kerr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Adroit Internet Solutions http://www.adroit.net/ 03 9563 4461 0414 708 124 ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Deleting data using ZSQL
Hi, I am writing a dtml method that deletes data from a database, and I found myself unable to do this. It seems that ZSQL is used to insert, update and query a database. but can not use "delete from table where var=dtml-var foo" I am surprised at this behaviour. Am I doing somehting worng? or this is how it works? Is there any information on how to do this somewhere??? Thanks in advance. Adonis -- Adonis El Fakih - President, CEO -- EGS, Inc. 70 Boston Road, Suite A301, Chelmsford MA 01824 USA Fax (978) 244-0544 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] How to change Unauthorized error message?
Hi all, Iwant to give out another error message(not the standard error message) when logging was without success. Zope Error Zope has encountered an error while publishing this resource. UnauthorizedYou are not authorized to access this resource. No Authorization header found. Traceback (innermost last): File /home/zope/Zope-2.1.6-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 214, in publish_module File /home/zope/Zope-2.1.6-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 179, in publish File /home/zope/Zope-2.1.6-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 151, in publish File /home/zope/Zope-2.1.6-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/BaseRequest.py, line 446, in traverse File /home/zope/Zope-2.1.6-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/HTTPResponse.py, line 551, in unauthorized Unauthorized: (see above) Troubleshooting Suggestions The URL may be incorrect. The parameters passed to this resource may be incorrect. A resource that this resource relies on may be encountering an error. For more detailed information about the error, please refer to the HTML source for this page. If the error persists please contact the site maintainer. Thank you for your patience. how can I mange this. I tryed it with the standard_error_message: dtml-if "error_type == 'Unauthorized'" dtml-return standard_Unauthorized_html/dtml-if but that doesen´t work. Any ideas? Jens
Re: [Zope] Zopebot
Shane Hathaway wrote: ... I wonder if there's any way to count Zope sites. Sometimes you might find a nice surprise, such as: http://www.cbsnewyork.com/manage_copyright !!! That's cool! -- E PLURIBUS LINUX ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] email lists
Terry Kerr wrote: Has anyone had any experience with storing a large list (several thousand) of email addresses in an object then sending an email to every one in the list through a MailHost? Will I need to send on email to all these addresses (multiple recipients), or one email for each person on the list. I'm not sure how well MailHost scales, but you can certainly store thousands of names in a ZODB-managed list. Tests done for the BTreeFolder product prove it. I am probably going to end up doing this totally within Zope since it is an easy solution to a problem, but am wondering whether I would be better off trying to get all the mail address into mailman or something. It's up to you. Mailman certainly has more mileage in this area. Shane ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Suggestion: Zope.org, products and testing...
On the zope.org site, how about adding a property for products: "tested versions of Zope". That way we could know, without doing all the testing ourselves, whether or not a product was useable. Thanks, Alex. 1010011010101001101010100110101010011010 0 Digital Garage$B!!%G%8%?%k
Re: [Zope] Zope Dies with FastCGI
On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two types of messages: First in its death throws: [Wed Sep 27 16:54:08 2000] [error] [client 192.168.2.52] FastCGI: comm with server "apache_server_path/htdocs/zope" aborted: idle timeout (30 sec) And later when its all over: [Thu Sep 28 08:07:11 2000] [error] [client 192.168.2.52] (111)Connection refused : FastCGI: failed to connect to server "apache_server_path/htdocs/zope": connect() failed It will run fine for quite some time but then it dies. There are no other refereces to zope in the error logs. I am looking into possible network issues. I will likely try daemontools this weekend. i've seen this problem only when there's a lot of connection;s usually more than 100 connections at any one time. to test this out, maybe you can use apache ab and step up until something breaks. also, try setting fastcgiexternalserver with -appConnTimeout 0 tell us how it goes. follow up on my own mail: i did an ab test, on Apache/1.3.12 (Unix) (Red Hat/Linux) mod_fastcgi/2.2.4 and it seems that zserver restarted after awhile. it restarted a few times during ab. ab -n 200 -c 50 these messages in stupid.log --- a few iteration snipped 2000-09-29T04:01:27 INFO(0) ZServer FastCGI Server (V1.0) started at Fri Sep 29 12:01:27 2000 IP : Port: 8999 Socket path : None -- 2000-09-29T04:01:57 ERROR(200) zdaemon zdaemon: Fri Sep 29 12:01:57 2000: Aiieee! 29643 exited with error code: 13 -- 2000-09-29T04:01:57 INFO(0) zdaemon zdaemon: Fri Sep 29 12:01:57 2000: Houston, we have forked -- 2000-09-29T04:01:57 INFO(0) zdaemon zdaemon: Fri Sep 29 12:01:57 2000: Houston, we have forked -- 2000-09-29T04:01:57 INFO(0) zdaemon zdaemon: Fri Sep 29 12:01:57 2000: Hi, I just forked off a kid: 29656 --- anybody can point out to me what's happening? Thanks for your help. Ron... ___ ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) -- http://www.kedai.com.my/kk http://www.kedai.com.my/eZine Just bring it! ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
