Re: [Zope-dev] License issues
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jimmie Houchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The GPL would protect DC from predatory competitors. It would also allow for Zope's adoption in certain environments. I also believe some people And prevent it in others. would relicense their products to the GPL if it were Zope's native license. While other products would suddently become license-incompatible. I'm not going to talk now about the Zope license, as Paul requested; by the way, thanks Paul for your message, it has been hopefully. Instead I'll show my rationale to decide with which license I release my software. As Jimmie I also like copyleft licenses because they protect my work. But the GPL is not the only copyleft license, the LGPL is too, are there more copyleft licenses? The GPL-incompatibility issue is a GPL issue, one way to avoid it is not to use it. But the GPL is a widely used license, so it's important for me not to release software with a GPL-incompatible license. I'm not a lawyer, so I don't want to write my own license nor modify an existing one. For now I'll stay with the LGPL beacuse it's copyleft and doesn't has the incompatibility problems of the GPL. There're other issues like dual-licensing or the possibly outdated concept of library that the LGPL uses, but I wanted to keep this message as short and clear as possible to show the fundamental issues that are important for me: GPL-Compatibility and copyleft. regards, jdavid ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] License issues
On Tue, 14 Nov 2000 09:48:20 +0100 (MET), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juan David Ibáñez Palomar) wrote: it's illegal to distribute GPL code together with [ZPL] code I dont see this as an issue for Zope (taken as a whole). There is no problem with other developers releasing GPL products for Zope, as long as they do not create a combined distribution of Zope+TheirProduct. Separate rpms is enough. it's important only if you want your GPL Zope products to be redistributed by others, for example by Debian. regards, jdavid ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Two glaring omissions
On Tue, 14 Nov 2000 15:39:59 -0500, Shane Hathaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. The ability to rename properties after instances of the classes have been created (and have the data in those fields preserved) This is also more difficult than it sounds. You'd have to either scan through the entire ZODB and modify class instances or associate properties with a magical, unchanging ID. The latter solution is dead wrong, but the first is actually kind of interesting. If there were a separate index for each object type in the ZODB, it would be possible. In fact, when ZODB is running from a relational database, there is indeed a way to do that. Hmmm... Or if your ZClass has a python base class, then a __setstate__ method could be added to do the same thing incrementally. Like all changes to a Python base class, this requires restarting the server. Toby Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] CVS and Zope methods
Hi Petr, If you're running on something unixy.. you could use ZCVSMixin... -steve "PK" == Petr Knapek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PK Hi Zopists, I am working on a Zope project and we decided to PK store source code in CVS. With python Zope products there is PK no problem. The work with CVS is very comfortable but I do PK not know how to make comfortable also the working with Zope PK methods which we would like have them in CVS also in plain PK text format and not in zope export or XML format. I would PK prefer this: Put Zope methods into our CVS and edit them in my PK working copy of CVS. When I restart Zope the Zope methods PK which are in my CVS working copy will be placed into ZODB or PK they will replace the content of existing ones. Is this PK possible and if yes can you advice me how to do this? Or give PK me some URL on documentation how others solve this problem. PK Thank you very much in advance, Petr -- Petr Knápek NEXTRA PK Czech Republic, s.r.o., Hlinky 114, 603 00 Brno, Czech PK Republic e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel:+420-5-43 554 150 PK FAX:+420-5-43 554 214 PK ___ Zope-Dev PK maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] PK http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross PK posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - PK http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce PK http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] CVS and Zope methods
Hi Robin, You can FTP to the 'methods' tab of your ZClass using: ftp://name@server:xx21/Control_Panel/Products/YourProductFolder/YourZClass/propertysheets/methods -steve "Robin" == Robin Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Robin On the same kind of note I find that while the code in my Robin Zope Products is visible to FTP and searchable anything I Robin put into a ZClass is invisible from FTP/or text Robin searches. Although they appear a bit like folders in the Robin management interface they aren't the same at all. -- Robin Robin Becker ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Folders w/Customizer Support
If a FwCS, supports a meta_type, does that mean it has to provide everything for DataSkins of that meta_type? To put it another way, could you have a FwCS that provided soem properties and let another FwCS further up the acquisition tree supply the rest? cheers, Chris ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] CVS and Zope methods
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steve Spicklemire [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Hi Robin, You can FTP to the 'methods' tab of your ZClass using: ftp://name@server:xx21/Control_Panel/Products/YourProductFolder/YourZClass/prope rtysheets/methods -steve ... yes I found that out although one of my dtml-methods was named filtered_meta_types and was causing all sorts of problems including crashing the server until I simply renamed it. -- Robin Becker ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] strange FTP bug
Robin Becker wrote: I'm using python's ftplib to automate transfer of my dtml methods back and forth into my ZClasses I seem to be unable to GET a method called 'filtered_meta_types' from /Control_Panel/Procucts/myProduct/myZClass/propertysheets/methods I get instead a permissions error 550. I get the same transferring using another FTP client. I checked the ownership etc and it should be OK. I can only think it's some horrible acquistion problem relating to the default filtered_meta_types thing. Indeed when I rename to FMT it all works quite happily. Is this kind of 'feature' known/expected? filtered_meta_types is used by zope to keep a list of the object types/meta types that a user can create (and interact? with) in the current context. so yes this behavior is known and expected, else it would be possible to bypass the security system. kapil ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] strange FTP bug
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ender [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Robin Becker wrote: I'm using python's ftplib to automate transfer of my dtml methods back and forth into my ZClasses I seem to be unable to GET a method called 'filtered_meta_types' from /Control_Panel/Procucts/myProduct/myZClass/propertysheets/methods I get instead a permissions error 550. I get the same transferring using another FTP client. I checked the ownership etc and it should be OK. I can only think it's some horrible acquistion problem relating to the default filtered_meta_types thing. Indeed when I rename to FMT it all works quite happily. Is this kind of 'feature' known/expected? filtered_meta_types is used by zope to keep a list of the object types/meta types that a user can create (and interact? with) in the current context. so yes this behavior is known and expected, else it would be possible to bypass the security system. kapil yes, but the thing I edit and use quite happily is designed specifically to override the standard behaviour in the class of the ZClass. I own the method and FTP is not exactly trying to call it or anything. I'm trying to get it. I can get all the other methods in the methods sheet why not this particular one. What 'context' am I supposed to be using with FTP? Seems to me if I can edit delete replace my filtered_meta_types in my ZClass through the management interface I ought to be able to do the same through FTP. Of course I'm barmy enough to demand some kind of consistency which I ought not to in the 'Zope' context. What other kinds of idiotic naming problems can one expect? -- Robin Becker ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] CVS and Zope methods
In article xrldNBAyh$[EMAIL PROTECTED], Robin Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steve Spicklemire [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Hi Robin, You can FTP to the 'methods' tab of your ZClass using: ftp://name@server:xx21/Control_Panel/Products/YourProductFolder/YourZClass/prop e rtysheets/methods -steve ... yes I found that out although one of my dtml-methods was named filtered_meta_types and was causing all sorts of problems including crashing the server until I simply renamed it. I also seem only able to GET the methods not STOR them. -- Robin Becker ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Folders w/Customizer Support
At 02:46 PM 11/16/00 +, Chris Withers wrote: To put it another way, could you have a FwCS that provided soem properties and let another FwCS further up the acquisition tree supply the rest? Nope. But there's nothing stopping you from writing a new version of the "link to parent providers" plug-in that would get providers from a higher-up FwCS... :) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] License issues
Simon Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Or, if someone wants to distribute something which includes zope and one or more GPL products. I mean, eg, you want to distribute your end-user package Easy Portal Creator 2000, based on zope/ptk/squishdot/zwiki. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] How do I create folders/methods etc. within the code?
I am a very novice zope/python user that needs to become an expert as soon as possible, since my whole dissertaion is based on Zope/Python. I have read all documentation availible on the zope.org site but can't find the answer to the following... 1. To run python scripts written as dtml methods. Do I simply use dtml-call from another dtml document/method? 2. To create folders, mthods etc in the code. I have found some functions manage_addDTMLMethod, manage_addFolder, but how do I use them? 3. I need to make a site that allows users to register ( i.e. to generate user folder with some standard documents in them). Anyone have hints regarding this? (or in fact a whole application I can use?) I appreciate any kind of contribution, Espen ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] How do I create folders/methods etc. within the code?
Some additions: 2. To create folders, mthods etc in the code. I have found some functions manage_addDTMLMethod, manage_addFolder, but how do I use them? well look at their signature in the code eg: self.manage_addFolder(id='Testing') The Zope Help system that comes with your Zope installation gives a contextual help with exactly these methods. Another friend is the Zope Quick Reference (http://zdp.zope.org/projects/zqr). 3. I need to make a site that allows users to register ( i.e. to generate user folder with some standard documents in them). Anyone have hints regarding this? (or in fact a whole application I can use?) Look at GenericUserFolder or LoginManager. As an addition: look at the PTK: it does many of these things for you already and at least it may be a source of information (http://www.zope.org/Products/PTK). The only issue is that it's, um, quite dynamic at the moment if you want to develop code with the PTK as a base. Some might say a moving target. But if you look for inspiration it will be fine on all accounts. hth Rik- ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] the Parsed XML project
The Parsed XML project is now public and ready for input. Parsed XML is the successor to XMLDocument. We have a wiki at http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ParsedXML. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is also a good place for discussion at this time. -- Karl Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] zope and os/2
"Paulo Dias" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hi/2 all...
I'm new to this list, and i'm trying to port zope to os/2 to provide
the os/2 community with such a fine program:)
well, i installed the emx/gcc package and put python for os/2 1.5.2 up
and running, and then picked up the zope src (2.2.2) from zope.org and
did a:
python wo_pcgi.py
it then started to compile and exited with folowwing
error:
--
Compiling python
modules
--
Building extension modules
Compiling extensions in lib/python
cp /lib/python1.5/config/Makefile.pre.in .
cp: /lib/python1.5/config/Makefile.pre.in: No such file or directory
Traceback (innermost last):
File "wo_pcgi.py", line 116, in ?
File "wo_pcgi.py", line 104, in main
File "E:\lixo\Zope-2.2.2-src\inst\build_extensions.py", line 96, in ?
make('lib','python')
File "E:\lixo\Zope-2.2.2-src\inst\do.py", line 133, in make
do("cp %s ." % wheres_Makefile_pre_in())
File "E:\lixo\Zope-2.2.2-src\inst\do.py", line 104, in do
if i and picky: raise SystemError, i
SystemError: 1
Exit 1
so now i'm stuck.. what's wrong here?
my system:
emx 0.9d fix 3
WSeB + fixpack 1 (warp server for e-business)
python 1.5.2 (os/2 port)
zope source 2.2.2
gcc 2.8.1
gmake 3.76.1
any os/2 developers out there that could give me a hand?
thanks and best regards...
I'm not running Warp anymore, but that error indicates that python
can't find 'Makefile.pre.in', which is part of the source distribution
for Python. Are you using Jeff Rush's binaries? I think you need to
check out his source distribution (RPM, no less!), at:
http://www.os2warp.org/%7Ejrush/python_os2/files.html
Best,
Tres.
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Re: [Zope-dev] ZopeBug: No Last-Modified for misc_/.../*.gif objects!!!!
* Dieter Maurer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [001116 16:17]: The Doctor What writes: I was looking at the cacheability of my website in zope, and saw that the misc_/OFSP/*.gif images (as in the icon objects) are NOT cacheable because they don't return *any* date info. If they *at least* returned a Last Modified, they'd be cacheable. My browser (Netscape 4.74) happily cashes these images. It is not clear, why a "Last Modified" header should be a precondition for caching. I would expect it is only necessary, if you told your browser (or other cache) to verify freshness for each request. If the browser has a "Last Modified", it sends an "If-Modified-Since" header and get a 304 response, if not. Ah, but you see, I have a caching proxy! Squid. My netscape cache's the images (ie, writes them to disk) but they are overwritten everytime. Since I connect via modem, I can watch them repopulate slowly. Even if Netscape does hold on to them without a caching proxy, we couldn't rely on that behavior. This problem makes 'icon' an undesireable object to use. Ciao! -- King: Chiswick, remind me to send flowers to the King of France in sympathy for the death of his son. Chiswick: The one you had murdered, My Lord King: Yes, that's the fellow. --Blackadder I The Doctor What: fill in the blank http://docwhat.gerf.org/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] KF6VNC ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
