[ZWeb] Re: rough draft of site

2006-08-25 Thread foundation web team

This is concering the new zope foundation site draft 

we are focusing only  structure NOT content.

we are using  properties to store memberships and will complete the list 
based on what jim gave us sometime ago (so its not a complete list)


we are not going to create any software .

If you all have any feedback on structure please let us know.

regards
sathya


Martijn Faassen wrote:


Hi there,

In a somewhat parallel effort Zeomega has been helping us on getting a 
basic site up and running. I'm anxious to integrate this parallel 
effort into the main effort.


The rough draft version of the foundation side made by Zeomega is 
based on the Apache Foundation site. It's here:


http://www.zope.org/foundation/newfoundation

I think to look at another foundation's site structure is a great 
idea. This should be helpful in fleshing out the structure of the 
foundation site.


Obviously a lot of work needs to be done, both on the layout and 
content. The plans for those efforts I've already sketched out to the 
list. I think of the main things we can take home from this is the 
structure. Sathya, Zeomega's contact, also got the membership lists, 
which should prove useful. :)


I've asked Sathya to join this list so we can have discuss matters 
here. Sathya's looking for feedback, so please go ahead!


Regards,

Martijn



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Re: [ZWeb] Re: volunteers wanted! zope foundation website as guinea pig

2006-08-25 Thread Lennart Regebro

On 8/25/06, Tom Von Lahndorff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Yeah, thats the problem. Because IE6 doesnt fully support the hover
function in CSS you need a javascript 'hack' to get a flyout to work.


Nono, we don't WANT it to flyout. On-hover menus is a pain in the ass.
We want it to flyout when we klick. That's the problem.
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Re: [ZWeb] Re: rough draft of site

2006-08-25 Thread Martijn Faassen

foundation web team wrote:

This is concering the new zope foundation site draft 

we are focusing only  structure NOT content.


Obviously structure and content (as well as good presentation) are all 
important. We can't really set up a good structure if we don't think 
about the content, too, right?


we are using  properties to store memberships and will complete the list 
based on what jim gave us sometime ago (so its not a complete list)


we are not going to create any software .


I think this is responding to my earlier, private feedback, where I was 
worried that a property on a page template was used to maintain the 
membership list, along with a python script in the ZODB. My suggestion 
is not to worry too much about the presentation of this list right now, 
and not worrying about the way it's stored. I don't think it's the most 
important problem we need to solve in the construction of the foundation 
website.



If you all have any feedback on structure please let us know.


Did you read my structure mail that I sent to this list previously? It's 
not feedback directly, but it discusses structure. I've just forwarded 
it to you; I'm not sure I did before.


Regards,

Martijn
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Re: [ZWeb] Re: volunteers wanted! zope foundation website as guinea pig

2006-08-25 Thread Martijn Faassen

Tom Von Lahndorff wrote:


Yeah, thats the problem. Because IE6 doesnt fully support the hover 
function in CSS you need a javascript 'hack' to get a flyout to work. It 
actually a very small and clean script, but an IE hack nonetheless. More 
info here:


http://www.htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/dropdowns/

I think we could have submenus display under the menu item once a 
section is clicked, but until IE gets it together (Im not reading too 
many promising reviews of IE7) we should probably avoid any 'IE hacks'. 


Instead of worrying about the drop-downs too much, I'd really like to 
see a template that uses a fairly standard left-hand-side navigation 
(perhaps with major categories on the top). www.plone.org uses this 
pattern, for instance.


Regards,

Martijn
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Re: [ZWeb] Re: volunteers wanted! zope foundation website as guinea pig

2006-08-25 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff


Working on it. :)

On Aug 25, 2006, at 6:59 AM, Martijn Faassen wrote:


Tom Von Lahndorff wrote:
Yeah, thats the problem. Because IE6 doesnt fully support the  
hover function in CSS you need a javascript 'hack' to get a flyout  
to work. It actually a very small and clean script, but an IE hack  
nonetheless. More info here:

http://www.htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/dropdowns/
I think we could have submenus display under the menu item once a  
section is clicked, but until IE gets it together (Im not reading  
too many promising reviews of IE7) we should probably avoid any  
'IE hacks'.


Instead of worrying about the drop-downs too much, I'd really like  
to see a template that uses a fairly standard left-hand-side  
navigation (perhaps with major categories on the top).  
www.plone.org uses this pattern, for instance.


Regards,

Martijn


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