Re: [Zope3-dev] what dependency to use for "zope 3"

2007-05-11 Thread Bernd Dorn


On 11.05.2007, at 17:29, Chris Withers wrote:


Fred Drake wrote:

On 5/11/07, Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I dunno, do we actually need an "offical big zope 3 release"  
anymore?

No.  What's more, we don't even want to use one anymore.


cool :-)

My only slight concern here is when people make changes in one  
satellite project, they break another one and don't realise. But I  
guess the buildbot should catch that, right?


i talked with jim about this and we agreed in that specifying  
versions in eggs is not a good idea. The best way imho is to use  
buildout's 'version' section in your application's buildout to nail  
down all eggs to a specific version.




The value of the big release is more for people who are new to  
Zope 3,

and want to take a look.  That's not an audience I'm good at judging,
either in terms of guessing what they really want, or in what makes
them take that first look.


Indeed, I'd suggest this is a market best persued by apps like Grok.

cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope3-dev] what dependency to use for "zope 3"

2007-05-11 Thread Chris Withers

Fred Drake wrote:

On 5/11/07, Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I dunno, do we actually need an "offical big zope 3 release" anymore?


No.  What's more, we don't even want to use one anymore.


cool :-)

My only slight concern here is when people make changes in one satellite 
project, they break another one and don't realise. But I guess the 
buildbot should catch that, right?



The value of the big release is more for people who are new to Zope 3,
and want to take a look.  That's not an audience I'm good at judging,
either in terms of guessing what they really want, or in what makes
them take that first look.


Indeed, I'd suggest this is a market best persued by apps like Grok.

cheers,

Chris

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   - http://www.simplistix.co.uk
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Re: [Zope3-dev] what dependency to use for "zope 3"

2007-05-11 Thread Fred Drake

On 5/11/07, Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I dunno, do we actually need an "offical big zope 3 release" anymore?


No.  What's more, we don't even want to use one anymore.

The value of the big release is more for people who are new to Zope 3,
and want to take a look.  That's not an audience I'm good at judging,
either in terms of guessing what they really want, or in what makes
them take that first look.


 -Fred

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Re: [Zope3-dev] what dependency to use for "zope 3"

2007-05-11 Thread Chris Withers

Bernd Dorn wrote:


for my projects however i just directly set all zope.* dependencies in 
setup.py explicitly, see the various z3c.* on svn.zopeorg packages as 
examples


I guess that makes sense if the satellite projects start getting their 
own release cycles, which I think would be a good thing.


I dunno, do we actually need an "offical big zope 3 release" anymore?

cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope3-dev] what dependency to use for "zope 3"

2007-05-10 Thread Bernd Dorn


On 10.05.2007, at 10:01, Chris Withers wrote:


Hi All,

As a newcomer to the world of setuptools, I'm excited by the  
prospect of automatic dependency handling.


However, with the eggification of Zope 3, this leaves me wondering:  
if I have a package that relies of a certain version of Zope 3,  
what do I put in as the dependency in setup.py?


i guess there will be a meta egg which you would then specify as a  
dependency


for my projects however i just directly set all zope.* dependencies  
in setup.py explicitly, see the various z3c.* on svn.zopeorg packages  
as examples




cheers,

Chris

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[Zope3-dev] what dependency to use for "zope 3"

2007-05-10 Thread Chris Withers

Hi All,

As a newcomer to the world of setuptools, I'm excited by the prospect of 
automatic dependency handling.


However, with the eggification of Zope 3, this leaves me wondering: if I 
have a package that relies of a certain version of Zope 3, what do I put 
in as the dependency in setup.py?


cheers,

Chris

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   - http://www.simplistix.co.uk

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