Re: [Zope3-Users] Z3ext 1.0 Beta3 Released

2009-08-23 Thread Tim Cook
I have the same problem on Ubuntu.  Besides the fact it is a weird
datetime format it simply doesn't work with any format.

--Tim

On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 09:26 +1000, George Wright wrote:
 OK Nikolay
 It worked this time.
 New problem:
 I am unable to satisfy the date format requirement on an edit screen!
 For example I tried to create a new News item.
 I have tried everything I can think of but continue to get this message:
 
 The datetime string did not match the pattern u'M/d/yy h:mm a'
 
 Could someone give me an example of a date entry that does work?
 (My location is Australia. Mac OSX 10.5.8)
 
 Regards
 George
 
 On 23/08/2009, at 7:12 PM, Nikolay Kim wrote:
 
  problem is fixed
 
  just run ./bin/buildout again
 
 
  On Aug 23, 2009, at 5:16 AM, George Wright wrote:
 
  I downloaded Z3ext 1.0 Beta3.
  The installation did not run smoothly - just stopped in middle of  
  self
  test cycle.
  ... ... ...
 
 George Wright
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Re: [Zope3-Users] z3ext

2008-02-15 Thread David Pratt

Hi Nikolay.

Just wanted to say that I have been aware of your efforts with z3ext on 
sourceforge for a while and wish to congratulate you on moving forward 
with a comprehensive ZPL licensed CMS. It is an important development 
for a number of reasons:


* Efforts such as zext and Hivurt exemplify how to glue components and 
packages together to create substantive applications. These type of 
tangible examples have been missing from the zope 3 landscape. In 
addition to your application being extremely useful in its own right, it 
will help developers understand how to assemble components and architect 
an application.


* The packages in the zext namespace further increase the pool of 
liberally licensed zope components. Over the past few years, there have 
a steadily increasing number of solid packages, componentry and 
repositories popping up. Zope corp, Lovely, the z3c community efforts to 
name a few (but there are certainly many others I am aware of). This is 
resulting in a plethora of high quality packages and serves as as a 
stimulant to encourage reuse for virtually any purpose.


The fact that the project and packages are all under the ZPL is not to 
be underestimated. It is a key opportunity for developers to engage in 
sharing and consumption of reusable code without licensing conflict. I 
strongly believe that liberal licensing scenario have been a critical 
ingredient to the success of Django, TurboGears, Twisted and other major 
frameworks.


* A low barrier to a functioning CMS reduces the cost and risk of 
experimentation, implementation and deployment of a full zope solution. 
I believe that when a clean break is made from the older api's of zope2, 
the scenario for development is more understandable. As far as I can 
see, the future of folks utilizing a combination of z2 and z3 
technologies will only grow out the z3 components while factoring out 
the old. For folks coming in for the first time, zext will help show 
them the way and give them an excellent CMS that they can build upon.


* Projects like zext, Hivurt, and Lovely's deployments demonstrate the 
power of zope3. Zope3 is not simply a library of components but a 
framework of possibility. The new 'zope' is a rich superset of 
functionality that provides the opportunity for a python programmer to 
integrate packages from all parts of the python world. It shows how 
competent systems can be created that are elegant, agile and capable of 
competing with anything out there (most of it from existing code bases). 
On top of it, you have scalability and the reliability of a mature code 
base.


* zext can show developers a different zope endpoint than Grok. Grok is 
an easier way to create zope3 applications and an important door to the 
world of zope. That said, I believe it is important to demonstrate 
conventional package patterns as well. While I favor explicit 
configuration for my own work, Grok removes much of the complication of 
assembling useful components. Grok continues to push on barriers to 
harness the potential of zope. More importantly though, when all this 
goodness is zope in general, it is good for the community as a whole.


Overall, the comments I have read about giving the project different 
name or different skin ought to be considered as you move forward. On 
the other hand, they take nothing away from what I see as a very strong 
effort of your behalf. I look forward to seeing a release in the future. 
Personally, I hope you receive more well deserved support.


Further, I encourage folks that may be using legacy zope to take a 
strong look at the zext project and the many packages that have been 
released under the ZPL as a result. zext, Grok and the many other 
efforts underway exemplify the new face of 'zope'. Many thanks Nikolay 
for this effort.


Regards,
David


Nikolay Kim wrote:

Hello,

Last year i worked on zope3 based cms. Today i built first site for my
friend without python coding, only TTW customization. So i think system
is ready for first development release. All code released under ZPL
license.

Basic features: Control panel, Principals managerment, Personal preferences, 
Basic TTW customization, Pluggable Content Types, Pluggable membership system, 
Members home folders, Product installer, Cataloging and searching, 
Full text searching with lucene, Basic forum product, Easy install with buildout


Here project homepage - http://z3ext.net/
Source code - http://sourceforge.net/projects/z3ext
Discussion Forums - http://z3ext.net/forums/

Everyone can try it locally
  svn co https://z3ext.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/z3ext/z3ext.portal/trunk 
z3ext
  cd z3ext
  python2.4 ./bootstrap.py
  ./bin/buildout
  ./bin/app

z3ext.net is built with z3ext, you only need checkout z3ext.homesite package
  svn co https://z3ext.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/z3ext/z3ext.homesite/trunk 
z3ext


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Re: [Zope3-Users] z3ext

2008-02-13 Thread astoon
To date z3ext has some attractive features:
1) A convenient and fast way to create add-on products and use configlet,
which gives us an opportunity to configure our custom product through
z3ext-control panel - without superfluous boilerplates.
2) By its own ideology visual customization using embedded in one another
layout (without the use of macros.)
3) A set of useful packages, some of which are already being used in some
projects (the old version).

Persistent layout - it is only an alternative choice for some users.
However, opinion designer, which customize first site, as far as I know, is
very positive. I.e. it has been easy.

Of course, requires a overview of the work of key z3ext packages for
z3-community.

2008/2/13, Christophe Combelles [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Nikolay Kim a écrit :

  Seems not much interest in cms for zope3 in community.


 I'm sure everybody is enthousiastic about any new app or cms made with
 zope3.
 This is a valuable effort, and that's what is currently missing, apart
 from the
 doc, so people can have answers to: what can I do with zope3? show me an
 example!. (there should be a page somewhere with all z3-powered apps)

 But you first need to let people have a little time to test it :)

 I've just quickly tried it for a few minutes, and it's probably not long
 enough
 to have a real idea, since it actually looks like a zmi or a plone.
 A really good thing would be to write a tutorial on how you created the
 site TTW
 for your friend, so you let the interesting parts appear by themselves.
 It's
 much quicker to read a small illustrative document than to try to wonder
 how to
 use the CMS.  Ok... I agree... writing docs is boring, compared to writing
 code,
 and it takes a lot of time :)


 Christophe


 
 
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Re: [Zope3-Users] z3ext

2008-02-13 Thread Christophe Combelles

Nikolay Kim a écrit :
Seems not much interest in cms for zope3 in community. 


I'm sure everybody is enthousiastic about any new app or cms made with zope3. 
This is a valuable effort, and that's what is currently missing, apart from the 
doc, so people can have answers to: what can I do with zope3? show me an 
example!. (there should be a page somewhere with all z3-powered apps)


But you first need to let people have a little time to test it :)

I've just quickly tried it for a few minutes, and it's probably not long enough 
to have a real idea, since it actually looks like a zmi or a plone.
A really good thing would be to write a tutorial on how you created the site TTW 
for your friend, so you let the interesting parts appear by themselves. It's 
much quicker to read a small illustrative document than to try to wonder how to 
use the CMS.  Ok... I agree... writing docs is boring, compared to writing code, 
and it takes a lot of time :)


Christophe




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Re: [Zope3-Users] z3ext

2008-02-13 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 11:29:39AM +0530, Baiju M wrote:
 Installing z3ext CMS was very easy.  I have few suggestions.

 1. I think your CMS application can be renamed to something else.
 Instead of using 'z3ext.portal' as the main entry point, a 
 non-namespace
 package would be better. (z3extcms, z3extportal or something like that).

By the way, what does z3ext mean?  I see ext, I have flashbacks to
Zope 2 ExternalFile or ExternalEditor products.

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Re: [Zope3-Users] z3ext

2008-02-13 Thread Nikolay Kim

On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 18:51 +0200, Marius Gedminas wrote:

 By the way, what does z3ext mean?  I see ext, I have flashbacks to
 Zope 2 ExternalFile or ExternalEditor products.

doesn't mean anything :)  maybe extension, extended.

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Re: [Zope3-Users] z3ext

2008-02-12 Thread Nikolay Kim
Seems not much interest in cms for zope3 in community. 


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Re: [Zope3-Users] z3ext

2008-02-12 Thread Baiju M

Hi Nikolay,

Nikolay Kim wrote:

 Hello,

 Last year i worked on zope3 based cms. Today i built first site for
 my friend without python coding, only TTW customization. So i think
 system is ready for first development release. All code released
 under ZPL license.

 Basic features: Control panel, Principals managerment, Personal
 preferences, Basic TTW customization, Pluggable Content Types,
 Pluggable membership system, Members home folders, Product installer,
 Cataloging and searching, Full text searching with lucene, Basic
 forum product, Easy install with buildout

 Here project homepage - http://z3ext.net/ Source code -
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/z3ext Discussion Forums -
 http://z3ext.net/forums/

 Everyone can try it locally svn co
 https://z3ext.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/z3ext/z3ext.portal/trunk
 z3ext cd z3ext python2.4 ./bootstrap.py ./bin/buildout ./bin/app

 z3ext.net is built with z3ext, you only need checkout z3ext.homesite
 package svn co
 https://z3ext.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/z3ext/z3ext.homesite/trunk
 z3ext


Installing z3ext CMS was very easy.  I have few suggestions.

1. I think your CMS application can be renamed to something else.
Instead of using 'z3ext.portal' as the main entry point, a 
non-namespace

package would be better. (z3extcms, z3extportal or something like that).
2. There is a new version of bootstrap.py inside buidout source tree.
3. A basic tutorial about how to use this CMS would be great.

Regards,
Baiju M

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Re: [Zope3-Users] z3ext

2008-02-12 Thread Nikolay Kim

 Installing z3ext CMS was very easy.  I have few suggestions.
 
  1. I think your CMS application can be renamed to something else.
  Instead of using 'z3ext.portal' as the main entry point, a 
 non-namespace
 package would be better. (z3extcms, z3extportal or something like that).

yes, i'm working on this right now, it's just developers preview

 2. There is a new version of bootstrap.py inside buidout source tree.
ok

 3. A basic tutorial about how to use this CMS would be great.
i will write tutorial. there was package messageboard that show basic
steps for building application with zope3, i can rewrite it for z3ext,
but i can't find it in svn.zope.org, anybody knows where it is?


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Re: [Zope3-Users] z3ext

2008-02-12 Thread Baiju M

Nikolay Kim wrote:

 3. A basic tutorial about how to use this CMS would be great.
 i will write tutorial. there was package messageboard that show basic
 steps for building application with zope3, i can rewrite it for
 z3ext, but i can't find it in svn.zope.org, anybody knows where it
 is?


http://svn.zope.org/book/trunk/messageboard/

Regards,
Baiju M

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