yeah, i have the comp and was confused. the track reminds me of 'running'
by information society.
james
www.jbucknell.com
Hi KJ, I'd really like to hear what he is doing for the community. While I
agree wiuth the fact that there is no law out there that says he has to do
anything, I would really like to know what the perception is as to what he
is doing (a lot of).
The argument that he has more overhead than
From: atomly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jeff Mills hasn't played in Chicago since 1993? despite living here for
years.
I think artists/musicians/whatever have a responsibility to their
community beyond just releasing records-- art is not created inside some
sort of a vacuum.
hold up hold up...was
alex,
on this point...
There are thousands of producers out there trying to make a difference at
this stage.
i would stand shoulder to shoulder with you and wage battle against nearly
all of them (you know who i mean)
but...i feel the price is a different point...
|
|b)
he might
have to save your life one day...
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!
bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe.
ouch
wake up!
why dont you calm down and let people speak their opinion without attacking
them.
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: (313) axis
From: atomly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jeff Mills hasn't played in Chicago
why don't people attack jeff when they meet him in person instead of kiss
a**
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From: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: (313) axis
why dont you calm down and let people speak their
um.
done that.
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
why don't people attack jeff when they meet him in person instead of kiss
a**
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From: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 6:17 PM
Visage tidbits: The album The Anvil (1982) contained Frequency 7 (Dance
Mix). Never heard the (Dance Mix) version - is that the one that
became famous in Detroit? How different is it than the 7 B-side version?
i have the polygram lp and it is not present.
the damned dont cry is a great cut
At 07:03 PM 1/14/04, Scotto wrote:
Visage tidbits: The album The Anvil (1982) contained Frequency 7 (Dance
Mix). Never heard the (Dance Mix) version - is that the one that
became famous in Detroit? How different is it than the 7 B-side version?
i have the polygram lp and it is not
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do you know when the last time Jeff Mills was hired to play in Chicago? Or
the last time he was offered to play there?
Anyone who wants to book Jeff Mills has to get through his manager.
Easier said than done. Frederic has told me flat out that
the man lives in chicago and people dont see him there doing what he's love
for. if you cant understand that, maybe sit back and try ot open your mind
and at least see things from the perspective of another instead of
brow-beating them into taking on your own beliefs. how do you know these
for. if you cant understand that, maybe sit back and try ot open your
mind
and at least see things from the perspective of another instead of
brow-beating them into taking on your own beliefs.
the only belief i espoused is that no one here has the right to condem the
man...i don't even know
I know lots of people I'd go off on in
person given the chance :)
better that, than on this list where he probably is not...cowardice...i've
seen this played out many times...
like i said...the issue of the fair pricing is valid...talk about his
character is reaching...
o...now i see...b*tched lover.!
yeah baby...let that envy shine through...huh...yeah, now rub a lil o
that ignorance in thereyup...
now you beautiful
---
look familiar? why demean someone for expressing their opinion
the end,
_j
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From:
um.
done that.
good...
good job mate...
o...now i see...b*tched lover.!
yeah baby...let that envy shine through...huh...yeah, now rub a lil o
that ignorance in thereyup...
now you beautiful
---
look familiar? why demean someone for expressing their opinion
the end,
_j
where in there is a reference
that you do
lets end it now, have a good night :)
www.emmrecords.com/~fux/web.php
flip through my works in progress and melt your brain
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 1:14 AM
Subject: Re: (313)
very well...
i've sent you some of my work as well i believe...
Laptop mix for your listening enjoyment.
http://www.hurlbotics.com/mixitup.mp3
Tracklisting
Dynamix II Pledge Your Allegiance To Electro Funk
EDMX Triple XXX
Mr De Lola Falana
DJ Funk House the Groove
Mathias Shaffhauser Loom Service
Liz Torres Music
Digital Soul Splinterfaction
Anyone who can blend Liz Torres, Ed DMX, 'Jam The Box' *and* Dietrich
Schoenemann in the same mix must be worth a listen! :-)
Cheers,
k
-Original Message-
From: James Hurlbut [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 6:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
Subject: (313)
Well, just as a contrast, I live in Chicago in Logan Square.
Recently Derrick Carter played a set three blocks from my house. For
FREE.
He just showed up at Streetside, the neighborhood bar which has a DJ
every night and never charges cover. Apparently he owed a favor to the
guys that play
Embarassed about what?
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 14 January 2004 11:43
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: /0; 313@hyperreal.org; atomly
Subject: Re: (313) axis
having been disappointed (borderline embarrased) the last 3 times I've
seen mills- i
From LD:
Ryan:
From the Axis Shop it was about £5 or £6 a piece.
From UK shops 2 weeks ago, about £8-9.
Now, mysteriously, the same vendors are knocking them out for the above
mentioned prices. I know people have been dissing Mills for this, but it's
plain to see that the mark ups has been added
I'd just like to point out that the above mentioned prices were in
reference to the prices that Martin mentioned on LD, namely £12 per piece.
-Original Message-
From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 January 2004 9:43
To: Cobert, Gwendal; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313)
FLUX RETROVERT present SPLIT THE NEXT LEVEL LAUNCH PARTY!!
SATURDAY 7TH FEBRUARY 2004
10pm - 7am
Turnmills, 63B Clerkenwell Road, London. EC1 (nearest tube - FARRINGDON)
Tel: 020 7250 3409
Room 1:
Derrick May (3 hour set)
Surgeon
Oliver Ho (Live)
Ben Sims Chris Finke (residents)
Room 2:
this is not completely true
as to the shops, they are offered pretty expensive by the several
distributors
and they offer it more expensive, as they but it in more expensive
and of course shops take their own margin.
- Original Message -
From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Cobert,
One of the lads has just seen these in a shop in Sheffield for £14!
15/1/04 9:52 AM Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'd just like to point out that the above mentioned prices were in
reference to the prices that Martin mentioned on LD, namely £12 per piece.
-Original
How do you explain the rise of £3/4 in the last couple of weeks from the
same shops?
-Original Message-
From: Marsel van der Wielen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 January 2004 9:54
To: 313
Subject: Re: (313) axis
this is not completely true
as to the shops, they are offered
That's a little unfair - if they're being sold to to distributors at the
same price as from the Axis store, then of course there's going to be a big
markup by the time they reach us - for a standard priced release, a
distributor takes about 30% of the final price, and the store the same.
It's all
no idea, ask them
rise or lower?
with rise
it could be the release was sold out at one distributor
so they did find another one, but more expensive
or visa versa
they did find another one, but more cheap
- Original Message -
From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Marsel
Remember also that some small distributors actually buy from the larger ones
rather than the label directly, which can add another 10-20% to the final
sale price...
- Original Message -
From: Marsel van der Wielen
To: 313
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: (313) axis
That's plausible, of course, but it strikes me as strange.
These are limited releases, and I reckon that any shop who wanted to stock
them would have bought as many as they could in the first instance. How
likely is it that Distributors would still be sitting on any after 4 weeks??
It's possible,
the info i always went on is from the below article, for ideological
reasons i'd prefer LAME (or any open source). mp3 tho is a propietary
format (despite what many think) and so a properly licensed encoder is
likely to win out in a situation such as this. if the fraunhofer people
really went
Hey.
Was just wondering if anyone had used this service of warp's?
(the one where you can download a track for 99p or whatever)
I was just wondering why anyone would?
I mean it's just as easy to download from a peer to peer right, and it's
free.
so, if you were going to spend the money,
robin wrote on Thu, 15 Jan 2004 about following:
http://www.arstechnica.com/wankerdesk/1q00/mp3/mp3-1.html
this article is rather old, just by checking the versions of the
applications, i'm guessing it was done about 4 years ago, so it's not
really applicable nowadays.
sakke
--
Timing
yeah fair comment sakke, as i said in my email it's what i based my
decision on when i originally started encoding mp3s. i'd like to see a
more up to date test (maybe with ogg vorbis included). anyone?
soz for being off topic but it has some bearing on 313 as we all listen
to mp3 mixes a lot.
if shops are suddenly adding #3+ after selling at a tenner for several weeks
then they're taking the mick. we were offered these by several distributors
all at the same price meaning the lowest we could sell at was #9.99 which we
did. as did the other quality stores such as rubadub, aidy@ vu,
robin wrote on Thu, 15 Jan 2004 about following:
more up to date test (maybe with ogg vorbis included). anyone?
http://www.codecreview.com/
http://www.xciv.org/~meta/audio-shootout/
okay, i'm not gonna post on this thread anymore. it's a promise!
sakke
--
Timing must be perfect now.
Tom said
Here's a hypotherical question - would you have bought the Kai Alce record
if it had been released on a label other than Mahogani?
What if it was an import from Europe on a label you'd never heard of, with
no association to
KDJ whatsoever?
Right, I gotta hold my hands up here.
I'd say
Oh yeah, a small irritating thing about this site : they never say whether the
tracks are those from the vinyl EP or the CD version - they used to be quite
different, esp with the early releases. Just bitching.
Gwendal
-Original Message-
From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 January 2004 10:36
Was just wondering if anyone had used this service of warp's?
(the one where you can download a track for 99p or whatever)
I was just wondering why anyone would?
I mean it's just
Right, nice one Brendan - now I see.
Was just wondering as I don't really have any mp3's or anything, or use the
peer to peer (only because work won't let me I guess).
_
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Anyone got a track listing for
http://deep.dreamland.org/mixes/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
G
I was just wondering why anyone would?
I mean it's just as easy to download from a peer to peer right, and it's
free.
I wondered the same thing when Apple launched their iTunes Music Store - but
eight months later they've sold 30 million songs. And bear in mind the
service is only available
- I was just wondering why anyone would?
-
- I mean it's just as easy to download from a peer to peer
- right, and it's
- free.
-
- I wondered the same thing when Apple launched their iTunes
- Music Store - but
- eight months later they've sold 30 million songs. And bear
- in mind the
-
-Original Message-
From: Tom Churchill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 January 2004 11:58
While we're on the subject - would people on the list pay to
download (for example) Headspace and Emoticon tracks as
high-quality MP3s? Trying to work out whether it's worth
exploring
To me it is a matter of pricing : I don't know how much iTunes charges (how
much is it for an Environ EP BTW ?), but on the Warp site tracks are about two
times more expensive as I would like them to be. Since you don't have the
actual object anymore, it should be normal to have some
iTunes is a lot cheaper than the Warp store, I think - it's 99 cents for a
track on iTunes, and 99 pence on Warp, so at the current exchange rate it's
almost twice as expensive. Not sure if iTunes has a per EP pricing deal,
though; what I've seen of it seems to be heavily structured around
15/1/04 12:13 PM Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
iTunes is a lot cheaper than the Warp store, I think - it's 99 cents for a
track on iTunes, and 99 pence on Warp, so at the current exchange rate it's
almost twice as expensive. Not sure if iTunes has a per EP pricing deal,
though; what I've seen of
They're taking a bit of a risk by launching these services and so I think
that's a big part of the reason the pricing is quite cautious
Hey - any heads on the list know if it really does cost alot?
Being a dullard, I can't see where extra costs would come from if you're
already running the site.
i suppose if you are using final scratch to DJ its good to have reliable
high quality rips, also some sites let you just download each track from am
album so you don't end up with fillers kicking around, for 1$ its not much
to pay if you only need 1 track.
On that matter i never understand why
15/1/04 12:22 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED]@uk.pwc.com
They're taking a bit of a risk by launching these services and so I think
that's a big part of the reason the pricing is quite cautious
Hey - any heads on the list know if it really does cost alot?
Being a dullard, I can't see where extra
Servers, Space, Power, Back-up, Bandwidth, UP's Units, Packet Shapers,
Back-end code, bank charges, People- not free.
ha!
OK.
Never mind!
_
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This e-mail is sent by
- I would be buying if stuff if it is available. Someone
- mentioned it is too
- early for mp3 dj's, i disagree totally the djing is totally
- split now with
- FS and not FS dj's.
- There is just no way to compete with a dj with 10 days of
- selection and
- custom remixes, especially when you
All I can identify here is Air Liquide and possibly Toxic Two
Good tunes though!
-Original Message-
From: placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 5:33 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Acid... and lots of it
http://www.acidmixes.com/30303030303.mp3
Mid
Oh and another note- all those rare records you own that only got 100
releases well 2000 people have these now and can dj them, its easy to angry
about this but i think there is now way to win the fight.
Quest Pond
(Hey Quest!)
This last point I can't quite see. - A major point about p2p etc
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 January 2004 12:22
Hey - any heads on the list know if it really does cost alot?
Being a dullard, I can't see where extra costs would come
from if you're already running the site.
It would definitely
Totally - they already sell Lex as well, and clearly plan to add more - I guess
it will go the same way their Warpmart did...
Gwendal
-Original Message-
From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Donnerstag, 15. Januar 2004 13:40
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313)
Maybe im exaggerating a bit but my point i think is still valid.
Actually thinking about it more, when cd's arrived everyone claimed the end
of vinyl. Now maybe i fell for this for a bit, but not too long. Probably
because there was still too many limitations for cd's to make them 100% okay
for
I'm getting a 404 on this URL - is it just me? I'm pretty intrigued by the
tracklist so am keen to give it a listen!
-Original Message-
From: James Hurlbut [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 January 2004 06:54
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
Subject: (313) electro.techno.bbeat.house mix
I couldn't access it either
-Original Message-
From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 12:56 PM
To: James Hurlbut; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
Subject: RE: (313) electro.techno.bbeat.house mix
I'm getting a 404 on this URL - is it just me? I'm pretty
So it's not working?! I was looking forward to that in a couple of hours :-(
-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 1:00 PM
To: Brendan Nelson; James Hurlbut; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
Subject: RE: (313) electro.techno.bbeat.house mix
Cheers for the info Brendan.
It would definitely cost a fair bit.
Right, I'm sticking to being an office postman, thats far more my level.
either that or a computers, servers and the internet for f**kwits course
at college.
: )
_
I confirm, its not working here either
- Original Message -
From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Brendan Nelson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; James Hurlbut [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Org 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 2:01 PM
You need to buy an enterprise-level server, a really hardcore machine
which will be able to cope with hundreds of thousands of hits per day and
several hundred concurrent mp3 uploads, besides all the streaming that
happens when people preview tracks. A machine that's up the job might cost
you
OK, after a bit of guesswork I've managed to work out the correct URL and am
downloading the mix now!
It's at:
http://www.hurlbotics.com/mp3/mixitup.mp3
Cheers,
Brendan
Don't mean to nit-pick, but you can get a co-hosting option or a decent,
large scale (though perhaps not enterpise scale, which is maybe a little
over the top for a label) remote server with 1000 gigs per month bandwidth
for less than $30 per month - the prices for high bandwidth media sites is
Toolhouse - The Acid Test - Playhouse
Untitled - B side of Roswell ep - Green Vinyl ?
Lift Oblivion - United Space - Space records
Sven Van Hees - Mars X Press Atom
Nuages - Blanc ep - Fcom
Air liquide - Liquid Air - Blue
Ghouls - Ghosts - Pin up
Essit Muzique - Whoo part 2 - DAP
Go to www.hurlbotics.com and then click on Music. It does open then.
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. Januar 2004 14:02
An: Robert Taylor; Brendan Nelson; James Hurlbut; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
Betreff: RE: (313)
Ah! It was Damian Donato, not Toxic Two - dunno whare I got that from
-Original Message-
From: placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 1:14 PM
To: Robert Taylor; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Tracklist for Acid... and lots of it
Toolhouse - The Acid Test -
-Original Message-
From: Matt Chester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 January 2004 13:16
Don't mean to nit-pick, but you can get a co-hosting option
or a decent, large scale (though perhaps not enterpise scale,
which is maybe a little over the top for a label) remote
server
I remember Ali from Overload telling me it cost him £30 a month to keep that
site running, excluding the actual manpower.
-Original Message-
From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 1:24 PM
To: 313 Detroit
Subject: RE: (313) warprecords
Hi Everyone,
I'm off shopping for a new mixer this weekend as my 1st mixer (Behringer
VMX-100) has become very noisy on its crossfader + it's a bit basic (crap
kills etc).
My budget is £250.00-£350.00 and at the moment I'm thinking of getting the
STANTON SMX-501. If anyone has one already would
haven't listened to this but there are a few other nice mixes (some with
tracklistings) online from the same person at, and contact details too
http://deep.dreamland.org/index.php?id=mixtapes
-Original Message-
From: Williams, Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 January 2004 11:54
Hi,
Kind of after some help here. If anyone could be so kind.
What do you look for in a website from a techno label?
are there any particular techno labels that have a really good site do you
think?
What makes it really good - any particular features?
Thanks
Alex
*cheeky market research
I ordered See/The/Light from the Axis website and it came to slightly over
20 quid, including postage. Seems pretty reasonable to me. If a shop is
over-charging, don't use it...
Sean.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
are there any particular techno labels that have a really good site do you
think?
What makes it really good - any particular features?
No contest
http://www.thinnerism.com/main.php
Great design, Great music and of course FREE!
other than that I think the UR
Michael Lees wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
are there any particular techno labels that have a really good site do
you
think?
What makes it really good - any particular features?
No contest
http://www.thinnerism.com/main.php
Great design, Great music and of course FREE!
other
That Thinnerism site is quite a nice one - I haven't seen that before but it's
definitely one that I'd say is an example of a label site I like.
A lot of techno labels have sites that annoy me for several reasons: the main
ones being overly dependent on style over content (ie, you arrive at the
http://www.thinnerism.com/main.php
Great design, Great music and of course FREE!
other than that I think the UR site is nice, lots of clips and
informative.
--
Mike
thanks - bet i've got to forward that to the other artists :)
cheers,
ronny
a.k.a. rktic
There's your answer Atomly.
I guess we'll just have to live with the fact that Jeff won't play in the
US - it's his choice and his right to choose where he lives and where he
plays and as long as he pays his taxes he's under no obligation to do
differently. I'm sure he's not the only one who
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
the only belief i espoused is that no one here has the right to
condem the
man...i don't even know him, or buy his music, but damn does he
really owe
anyone to play in whatever city he lives in
I've been watching from the sidelines,
But what if he and others in his position could take it further than that!
Galvanize this community through festivals (lukewarm overall), seminars,
clubs (gasp!), and the development of new players in the game.
Uh, yeah - he does all of this. It's called Musik und Machine.
Mills is a hot topic today!! :P
There is an interesting discussion occuring here:
http://www.littledetroit.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1491 regards the
upcoming DVD release. (I would be interested to hear opinions from 313
members). I will say though, and it is ONLY my opinion, that Mills is
sorry - the whole idea that he should play in one city or another just
because he lives there and you or some else sees him there is selfish.
Mills is not some toy to be turned on whenever you feel like playing - get
real. I can understand wanting to see him but I can also put myself in the
And I would agree, Clarke gets it, Juan does and Jeff seems to get targeted
every single month. How do people find the time to worry more about what
these guys do than making a difference by making tunes, promoting or adding
to the scene...
Martin
15/1/04 3:05 PM Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)[EMAIL
i think there definately is a future for labels offering their catalogue
through downloadable mp3's [or whatever other format].
right now it's still in it's early stages,and the fact that most of the
payment done on the internet are still done by creditcard doesn't help. how
much does it
oh, forgot to mention:
offering music for download (eventhough it costs a little) creates the
opportunity to offer music for download that's not marcketable through
vinyl/cd.
for instance, you can offer alternate versions of songs.
pressing these up on vinyl will most of the time be unwise,
- Original Message -
But what if he and others in his position could take it further
than that!
Galvanize this community through festivals (lukewarm overall),
seminars,clubs (gasp!), and the development of new players in the
game.
Uh, yeah - he does all of this. It's called
there's a drexciya interview here, just spotted it.
available for download in mp3 format.
not sure if its been posted before, so sorry if it has.
http://deephousepage.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=19;t=001253
_
When I met Jeff, he was a very nice caring person who was deeply concerned
about the direction Techno was taking in Germany (!). He felt that he and
Dimitri Hegemann from Tresor did a bad job back in the early Nineties
because he pleaded guilty for conditioning people to consume Techno in dark
Thank you pleidy, for understanding and expanding on my point.
Peace,
Alex
- Original Message -
But what if he and others in his position could take it further
than that!
Galvanize this community through festivals (lukewarm overall),
seminars,clubs (gasp!), and the
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
i think your name is peter right? ok...you make a rational argument...the
argument that he could 'single handedly transform the american scene' is
not...nor is it true...moby could transform the american scene before jeff
mills...but, if jeff mills spends the majority of his
Sorry! I forgot part of the link. stupid computers. Yeah, its actually at
http://www.hurlbotics.com/mp3/mixitup.mp3
Hopefully my server can handle it. For the curious, it's done with vinyl
recorded into Ableton Live and a lot of cue point lovin'.
At 05:08 AM 1/15/2004, Brendan Nelson wrote:
-- Original Message --
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 08:59:25 -0800
but, if jeff mills spends the majority of his time in europe
playing
shows and throwing festivals it's because that's who gives him
the most
support...when americans buy
...but if Mills has been in the ascendancy for 10-15 years, perhaps it would
have already happened by now, if it was going to at all?
-Original Message-
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 January 2004 4:45
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) axis
Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
that actually makes no business sense at all. making more sense
would be dividing your time so that you make your existing
customers happy but also making inroads to getting new fans by
playing places where you might not sell as many records. i have no
qualms with
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From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
...but if Mills has been in the ascendancy for 10-15 years,
perhaps it would
have already happened by now, if it was going to at all?
yeah giving up must be the thing to do.
started off with the intention of making heavy gangster rap
beats as a joke, turned into something ugly that might be
worth a couple minutes of ear-time...
www.emmrecords.com/~fux/fuxz__hiphop_lektro_rejecto.mp3
I dont know what Im doing but its easy enough to subject
you all to it, so why not
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