Re: Ax-020

2000-08-17 Thread Cesium5Hz
In a message dated 17/08/00 7:34:46 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ha! You had to bring the Dadaist into this. You think your so artsy and intellectual don't you? Exactly. And you're not? Your not even going to give Juan Atkins credit? I have too many times. Its a given now. If all

Re: Ax-020

2000-08-16 Thread stephen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/08/00 2:20:02 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Music evolves but it always doesn't move forward. Don't base progress on trends. Stephen, If it doesn't move forward its devolution. wouldn't that be stagnate? Devolution would be moving backward or

Re: Ax-020

2000-08-16 Thread Cesium5Hz
In a message dated 16/08/00 8:11:08 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Music can evolve through a process of evolution but it may not necessarily be an improvement over the past even though music changes because of trends and technology. That was the basic premises of my argument. So you agree

Re: Ax-020

2000-08-15 Thread Cesium5Hz
In a message dated 12/08/00 2:20:02 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Music evolves but it always doesn't move forward. Don't base progress on trends. Stephen, If it doesn't move forward its devolution. Music evolution is the gradual movement from one state to another - not neccesarily better, but not

Re: [313] Re: Ax-020

2000-08-15 Thread BACKGROUN0
i totally have to agree to zedĀ“s words. nuthin` else to add. that`s just how it is. andy vaz background records

Re: [313] Re: Ax-020

2000-08-11 Thread JARED WILSON
Judging by the records you mentioned, it looks like you prefer the -less- intricate and more banging/harder records. No, I do not prefer one over the other. I am a big fan of the intricate structured techno, such as the KOMPAKT releases, and other dry german techno. Jared Wilson F.T.M.

Re: Ax-020

2000-08-11 Thread JARED WILSON
Don't you people get tired of hearing all that echo and reverb? Never. This was in reference to the Deepchord releases I presume. Yes it is very old ingredients, but when the finished product is simply good dubbed out techno, who cares what its context is. Isolee uses these same

Re: [313] Re: Ax-020-Innovators

2000-08-11 Thread jim proffit
JARED WILSON wrote: Yes, The innovators' music is good and important, but they are producers just like everyone else and are not gods. What I mean by that is just because they touch something does not mean it turns to gold. It certainly doesn't. I can think of couple records that are not

Re: [313] Re: Ax-020-Innovators

2000-08-11 Thread justice 808
Jim wrote: Yes, The innovators' music is good and important, but they are producers just like everyone else and are not gods. What I mean by that is just because they touch something does not mean it turns to gold. It certainly doesn't. I can think of couple records that are not good even if

Re: [313] Re: Ax-020-Innovators

2000-08-11 Thread Peter B Leidy
Wee papa girls - Kevin Saunderson RMX -Again I don't bother with the title. I remember this one had some awful 303 (???), somekind of acid-attempt tried. Are you kiding me??The Master Reese mix of The Wee Papa Girls Heat It Up(Jive)is one of my fave remixes of all time!I thought the

Re: [313] Re: Ax-020-Innovators

2000-08-11 Thread Jorge Velez
Subject: Re: [313] Re: Ax-020-Innovators Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 13:08:25 -0400 (EDT) Wee papa girls - Kevin Saunderson RMX -Again I don't bother with the title. I remember this one had some awful 303 (???), somekind of acid-attempt tried. Are you kiding me??The Master Reese mix

Ax-020

2000-08-10 Thread Cesium5Hz
In a message dated 8/08/00 11:53:08 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree, out side of the new plus 8 track (Electric Deluxe) I have not been to impressed with Detroit releases. I would say that the most avant techno of late has come from the likes of Marco Carola, Gaeton Parisio, and even

Re: [313] Stacey Pullen (Was Ax-020)

2000-08-10 Thread Cyclone Wehner
Now - The new Stacey Pullen LP. I wonder what the verdict is going to be - if it is in the direction of his last release 2 years ago on Black Flag or .otherwise. It's nothing like the more dancefloor-oriented Black Flag track Sweat, it's more in line with Silent Phase, but having said

Re: Ax-020

2000-08-10 Thread JARED WILSON
Well then you'd probably haven't heard: Theo Parrish - Parallel Dimensions LP (Sound Signature) Robert Hood - Nighttime World 2 (M-Plant) Shake - Songs For My Mother (Frictional) Da Sampla - Samplaholic (Moods Grooves) Sean Deason - Allegory Metaphor (Intuit Solar) Kevin Saunderson - Powerbass

Re: [313] Re: Ax-020

2000-08-10 Thread Jochem_Peteri
4 this type of dissatisfaction there's only 1 answer, especially if u look @ the quality of recent releases that were mentionedb4... the answer is buy some gear and impress me/us/yourself 154

Re: Ax-020

2000-08-10 Thread JARED WILSON
Well if you're looking for warehouse stormers then logically you'd be dissapointed with these releases. The musical trend now seems to be heading toward more intricate sounds, structures that are more specialised then what was released back in the day. I'm not implying that there were no

Re: [313] d-troit techno/bread n' butter (was Re: Ax-020)

2000-08-09 Thread phred
I want to second what Michael said. I never worry about the ability of Detroit (broadly conceived, that includes you too, Kzoo :) to bring out excellent music. And the reason is there is 50 years plus of consistent history on that, going back to the great jazz era of the 1940s, followed by

Re: [313] d-troit techno/bread n' butter (was Re: Ax-020)

2000-08-09 Thread stephen
Mike Taylor wrote: I think the thing to remember is that there is electronic music in Detroit beyond Detroit Techno. Right now there is a lot of stuff that doesnt go doof doof doof that you do not know about yet. There are a lot of cats doing good stuff that don't have deals yet, and even more

Re: [313] d-troit techno/bread n' butter (was Re: Ax-020)

2000-08-09 Thread JARED WILSON
], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] d-troit techno/bread n' butter (was Re: Ax-020) Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 18:04:58 -0400 And how dare you say that Detroit is stagnant so soon after DEMF!? ;P I think the thing to remember is that there is electronic music in Detroit beyond Detroit

RE: [313] d-troit techno/bread n' butter (was Re: Ax-020)

2000-08-09 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
] -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: JARED WILSON [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 3:28 PM Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: Re: [313] d-troit techno/bread n' butter (was Re: Ax-020) And how dare you say that Detroit is stagnant so

RE: [313] d-troit techno/bread n' butter (was Re: Ax-020)

2000-08-09 Thread Jochem_Peteri
this reminds me of lightbulbs, i wonder why 8 D 154

RE: [313] d-troit techno/bread n' butter (was Re: Ax-020)

2000-08-09 Thread JARED WILSON
be!!! (The Ramones) Jared Wilson F.T.M. Records From: Jongsma, K.J. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'JARED WILSON' [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] d-troit techno/bread n' butter (was Re: Ax-020) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 15:47:09 +0200 Oh please not another

Re: Ax-020

2000-08-08 Thread stephen
Am I completely wrong or am I the only one who dares to say... IMO Your only stating your opinion and there nothing wrong with that. Ax-020 is a completely disappointing record... More than that compared to his visionary releases in the early/mid 90's I think Mills produced no good record during

Re: [313] Re: Ax-020

2000-08-08 Thread Cyclone Wehner
Because he's been on the experimental tip lately but I see what your saying, I feel the same way about many Detroit artist nowadays. But lets look at this whole tribal techno movement that I'm not especially a big fan of, would it have even happened if it wasnt for Jeff Mills? that's basically

RE: [313] Stacey Pullen (was Re: Ax-020)

2000-08-08 Thread FC3 Richards
to wait til January jeff -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 4:36 AM To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: [313] Re: Ax-020 Just you wait until you hear the new Stacey Pullen album. New and great and it's out next

Re: [313] Re: Ax-020

2000-08-08 Thread JARED WILSON
producers. Any thoughts on the matter would be greatly appreciated. Jared Wilson F.T.M. Records From: stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Re: Ax-020 Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 05:26:21 -0500 Am I completely wrong or am I the only one who dares to say

[313] d-troit techno/bread n' butter (was Re: Ax-020)

2000-08-08 Thread gord
On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, JARED WILSON wrote: I agree, out side of the new plus 8 track (Electric Deluxe) I have not been to impressed with Detroit releases. I would say that the most avant techno of late has come from the likes of Marco Carola, Gaeton Parisio, and even some Adam Beyer

Re: [313] Ax-020

2000-08-08 Thread trak head
Am I completely wrong or am I the only one who dares to say... IMO Ax-020 is a completely disappointing record... More than that compared to his visionary releases in the early/mid 90's I think Mills produced no good record during the last 2 years... Any comments? Well, I happen to dig the hell

Re: [313] d-troit techno/bread n' butter (was Re: Ax-020)

2000-08-08 Thread Mike Taylor
And how dare you say that Detroit is stagnant so soon after DEMF!? ;P I think the thing to remember is that there is electronic music in Detroit beyond Detroit Techno. Right now there is a lot of stuff that doesnt go doof doof doof that you do not know about yet. There are a lot of cats doing

Ax-020

2000-08-06 Thread Benjamin
Am I completely wrong or am I the only one who dares to say... IMO Ax-020 is a completely disappointing record... More than that compared to his visionary releases in the early/mid 90's I think Mills produced no good record during the last 2 years... Any comments?

Re: [313] Ax-020

2000-08-06 Thread justice 808
Benjamin wrote: Am I completely wrong or am I the only one who dares to say... IMO Ax-020 is a completely disappointing record... More than that compared to his visionary releases in the early/mid 90's I think Mills produced no good record during the last 2 years... Any comments? Hi

Re: [313] Ax-020

2000-08-06 Thread Cyclone Wehner
I the only one who dares to say... IMO Ax-020 is a completely disappointing record... More than that compared to his visionary releases in the early/mid 90's I think Mills produced no good record during the last 2 years... Any comments?