Re: [57north-discuss] Hosting servers

2021-07-26 Thread Tony Travis
On 25/07/2021 22:43, Andy Gaskell wrote: [...] Do all six of them need to be on all the time?  If not, maybe they could run on a remotely operated power switch thing. Hi, Andy. I'm running LizardFS SDS, so they all need to be on 24/7, but the disks do spin down when not in use. However,

Re: [57north-discuss] Hosting servers

2021-07-26 Thread Tony Travis
On 25/07/2021 23:45, Alfie Pates wrote: When I was looking @ putting video encoding compute boxes in a colo with metered power, I played with wake-on-demand to only spin them up when they actually had jobs to do. I was using Proxmox' built in WoL nonsense along with some terrifying calendar

Re: [57north-discuss] Hosting servers

2021-07-25 Thread Alfie Pates
When I was looking @ putting video encoding compute boxes in a colo with metered power, I played with wake-on-demand to only spin them up when they actually had jobs to do. I was using Proxmox' built in WoL nonsense along with some terrifying calendar automation to schedule boxes being alive.

Re: [57north-discuss] Hosting servers

2021-07-25 Thread Andy Gaskell
Hiya I'm a bit late to this chat, sorry. Yea, power costs are pretty scary, my maths/bills pegs it at £2365 p/a inc vat, for 6x250w 24/7. Do all six of them need to be on all the time? If not, maybe they could run on a remotely operated power switch thing. I don't know if AAOD pay a fixed fee

Re: [57north-discuss] Hosting servers

2021-07-25 Thread Tony Travis
On 25/07/2021 16:29, Robert McWilliam wrote: [...] I'd be opposed to 57North paying for the electricity for this. It'll be in the ball park of all our income⁰. As much as I'd like to play with a compute cluster I don't think it's worth (possibly more than) all of the space's money. Hi,

Re: [57north-discuss] Hosting servers

2021-07-25 Thread Robert McWilliam
On Sat, 24 Jul 2021, at 23:15, Tony Travis wrote: > On 24/07/2021 16:52, Robert McWilliam wrote: > > 6x250W comes to about £2400/year (with what I'm paying for electricity, I > > don't know how that compares to price at the hackspace). And north of > > £3k/year if they're mostly busy and at the

Re: [57north-discuss] Hosting servers

2021-07-25 Thread Tony Travis
On 25/07/2021 13:35, Tom Jones wrote: [...] I think this would be a great thing for the space to do, espectially considering the two ISP that are providing us service. Hi, Tom. Thanks for your support :-) I think that we would need to run this by Isobel at AAOD though. This is likely to be

Re: [57north-discuss] Hosting servers

2021-07-25 Thread Tom Jones
On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 12:58:09PM +0100, Tony Travis wrote: > Hi, > > Brexit and Covid-19 have wreaked havoc on my business plans with Luca in > Italy and I'm reconsidering if I should ship six servers that I've built > to Italy or host them here in Scotland? > > The servers are Dual 8-core

Re: [57north-discuss] Hosting servers

2021-07-24 Thread Tony Travis
On 24/07/2021 16:52, Robert McWilliam wrote: [...] To be clear, they consume about 250W when idle and ~350W when working. FFS, Tony. Heh, yes I was just typing a message checking if you meant W but you noticed yourself before I got as far as sending :) Hi, Robert. Thanks :-)

Re: [57north-discuss] Hosting servers

2021-07-24 Thread Tony Travis
On 24/07/2021 15:53, Tony Travis wrote: On 24/07/2021 15:38, Tony Travis wrote: [...] They idle at about 250Kw/h and use about 350Kw/h working (no GPGPU). Hi, Robert. You knew, of course that I meant 250W/h ;-) Hi, Robert. Sorry, again, I really hate making silly mistakes in public :-(

Re: [57north-discuss] Hosting servers

2021-07-24 Thread Tony Travis
On 24/07/2021 15:38, Tony Travis wrote: [...] They idle at about 250Kw/h and use about 350Kw/h working (no GPGPU). Hi, Robert. You knew, of course that I meant 250W/h ;-) Head full of KW/h just now working out my bill! Sorry about that, Tony. -- Minke Informatics Limited, Registered in

Re: [57north-discuss] Hosting servers

2021-07-24 Thread Tony Travis
On 24/07/2021 15:10, Robert McWilliam wrote: [...] ¹ Though they've got pretty high RAM to compute ratio so they could win out for tasks with high RAM needs, or working on more data than you can upload in a reasonable time etc. Hi, Robert. They also have ECC registered RAM, which is

Re: [57north-discuss] Hosting servers

2021-07-24 Thread Tony Travis
On 24/07/2021 15:10, Robert McWilliam wrote: On Sat, 24 Jul 2021, at 12:58, Tony Travis wrote: The servers are Dual 8-core (16 thread) Opteron 6380 + 128GiB RAM, OS on a 500GB SSD RAID1 and 4@8TB on an LSI9211-4i with an LSI9211-8i to allow for expansion of another 8@SATA3 disks. What does

Re: [57north-discuss] Hosting servers

2021-07-24 Thread Tony Travis
On 24/07/2021 15:10, Robert McWilliam wrote: On Sat, 24 Jul 2021, at 12:58, Tony Travis wrote: The servers are Dual 8-core (16 thread) Opteron 6380 + 128GiB RAM, OS on a 500GB SSD RAID1 and 4@8TB on an LSI9211-4i with an LSI9211-8i to allow for expansion of another 8@SATA3 disks. What does

Re: [57north-discuss] Hosting servers

2021-07-24 Thread Robert McWilliam
On Sat, 24 Jul 2021, at 12:58, Tony Travis wrote: > The servers are Dual 8-core (16 thread) Opteron 6380 + 128GiB RAM, OS on > a 500GB SSD RAID1 and 4@8TB on an LSI9211-4i with an LSI9211-8i to allow > for expansion of another 8@SATA3 disks. What does power usage of those systems look like?

[57north-discuss] Hosting servers

2021-07-24 Thread Tony Travis
Hi, Brexit and Covid-19 have wreaked havoc on my business plans with Luca in Italy and I'm reconsidering if I should ship six servers that I've built to Italy or host them here in Scotland? The servers are Dual 8-core (16 thread) Opteron 6380 + 128GiB RAM, OS on a 500GB SSD RAID1 and 4@8TB