Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

[John Floren]

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 2:35 PM, ron minnich  wrote:
> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Skip Tavakkolian <9...@9netics.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>> *Weekday overnight accommodations are not available from September to June.
>>
>> this will mean peak season airfares and very tight deadline.
>
> The food looked good but this weekday overnight thing is a deal breaker.
>
> Let's try something else.
>
> ron
>
>

I think RIT would probably let us hold IWP9 on campus here in Rochester.

Advantages:
*Plenty of auditoriums and a university interested in hosting such things
*Lots of hotels in the area (Radisson right at the edge of campus)
*3 miles from the airport
*Variety of places to eat in town
*The bar right near campus has ~50 beers on tap, plenty of other great
bars a bit farther away
*Rochester is pretty cheap all around

Disadvantages:
*Weather in late fall/early winter can range from pleasant to blizzard
*Most people would have to fly in via Chicago, Atlanta, Dulles, or NYC.


The weather's not as pleasant as Athens, and it doesn't have the same
great concentration of bars and restaurants *right* on campus, but I
think RIT would be willing to host the conference. Plus, I wouldn't
have to buy plane tickets :)


John

[9fans] netif "headersonly"

[erik quanstrom]

this option is currently unused by anything in /sys/src.
does it make sense to maintain?

- erik

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

[Skip Tavakkolian]

> which one did athens, ga fail?

i wasn't trying to be disparaging toward past venues.  i would guess
if there was any, it would be convenience of getting there/back.

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

[balaji]

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:08 PM, ron minnich  wrote:
> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:03 PM, erik quanstrom  
> wrote:
>
>> which one did athens, ga fail?
>
> I think athens won big on cheap and pretty, and I also think we all
> felt the host (i.e. coraid) was fantastic.
>
> It was somewhat inconvenient to get to, and people had to pay the cost
> of a rental car.
>
i believe it had the best combination for a US location. conference,
accommodation, hang out places and entertainment all within
walking distance to each other, priced very reasonably.

> I would not object to going there again, however. But it's also nice
> to be in a city convenient to a different part of the world each year.
> Seattle and SF are good for our friends on the pacific rim.
>
well, it was not that far away from a very busy international airport with
convenient shuttles (except for you ron, who got in pretty late).

having seen many places in US (conference towns like Vegas, pretty
cities like SF, Boston etc), Athens imo provided the best combination
of everything for a 'non-sponsored' conference (and a terrific host).

balaji

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

[Christopher Nielsen]

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 16:08, ron minnich  wrote:
> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:03 PM, erik quanstrom  
> wrote:
>
>> which one did athens, ga fail?
>
> I think athens won big on cheap and pretty, and I also think we all
> felt the host (i.e. coraid) was fantastic.
>
> It was somewhat inconvenient to get to, and people had to pay the cost
> of a rental car.
>
> I would not object to going there again, however. But it's also nice
> to be in a city convenient to a different part of the world each year.
> Seattle and SF are good for our friends on the pacific rim.
>
> So the suggestion of non-athens locations should not be taken (at
> least on my part) as springing from any negative feelings about last
> year's meeting :-)
>
> ron

If folks are interested in Los Angeles (West Hollywood), I could host
here. Our office has a really nice A/V setup and room to seat 30-40
comfortably. LA isn't attractive because everything is spread out.
However, there are reasonable and inexpensive accommodations within
walking distance. And LA also has the advantage of an easy-to-reach
from abroad airport. Of course, it's not exactly pretty here. ;-)

-- 
Christopher Nielsen
"They who can give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve
neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the
blood of patriots & tyrants." --Thomas Jefferson

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

[erik quanstrom]

On Thu May  6 19:09:36 EDT 2010, rminn...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:03 PM, erik quanstrom  
> wrote:
> 
> > which one did athens, ga fail?
> 
> I think athens won big on cheap and pretty, and I also think we all
> felt the host (i.e. coraid) was fantastic.
> 
> It was somewhat inconvenient to get to, and people had to pay the cost
> of a rental car.
> 
> I would not object to going there again, however. But it's also nice
> to be in a city convenient to a different part of the world each year.
> Seattle and SF are good for our friends on the pacific rim.
> 
> So the suggestion of non-athens locations should not be taken (at
> least on my part) as springing from any negative feelings about last
> year's meeting :-)

i was being overly-literal.

i agree completely.

- erik

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

[ron minnich]

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:03 PM, erik quanstrom  wrote:

> which one did athens, ga fail?

I think athens won big on cheap and pretty, and I also think we all
felt the host (i.e. coraid) was fantastic.

It was somewhat inconvenient to get to, and people had to pay the cost
of a rental car.

I would not object to going there again, however. But it's also nice
to be in a city convenient to a different part of the world each year.
Seattle and SF are good for our friends on the pacific rim.

So the suggestion of non-athens locations should not be taken (at
least on my part) as springing from any negative feelings about last
year's meeting :-)

ron

Re: [9fans] New user

[erik quanstrom]

> Sorry, for the long delay to reply and thanks for all the
> replies. htmlfmt is good enough for now,
> while i'm still trying to learn the system.
> I just hope that i'm not causing disturbance here cause i'm really hooked to
> plan9 now, Today i'm installing it to our computer at work
> so, i might need some help from time to time.
> :)

don't worry.

we're just cranky enough to let you know.  ☺

- erik

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

[erik quanstrom]

> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Skip Tavakkolian <9...@9netics.com> wrote:
> >> doesn't the weather get ugly in seattle about that time?
> >
> > pick any two: cheap, pretty, convenient. ☺
> 
> I actually like seattle that time of year anyway.

which one did athens, ga fail?

- erik

[9fans] minipci orinoco cards?

[Anthony Sorace]

anyone ever used one of the minipci
versions of the orinoco cards?



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[9fans] wierd kw errata?

[erik quanstrom]

i finally got some traction on the plumbing problem
i've been seeing on kw.  but now i'm stumped.

perhaps there is something obvious that i am missing.
here's the original problem.  this only is observable on kw,
as far as i know:
mkdir /tmp/2.6 && cd /tmp && acme
b3 on 2.6, directory does not open.
in /sys/src/cmd/acme/look.c:/^look3.c if i add
fn1("");
right before Return:, the problem goes away.  if i
add
fn0();
the problem remains.  the definitions are
void
fn0(void)
{
}

void
fn1(char*)
{
}
i think i've ruled out a timing or proc restore problem
because a call to sleep(100) from fn0 doesn't change
anything.

but this is really a strange problem, since openfile()
should have already run!  somehow code run later
seems to change the result.

the assembly in question is (works)
look3+0x2dc 0x0001265c  BL  openfile
look3+0x2e0 0x00012660  MOVW$#0x471b1,R0
look3+0x2e4 0x00012664  BL  fn1
look3+0x2e8 0x00012668  B   look3+0x1b0
or (doesn't work)
look3+0x2dc 0x0001265c  BL  openfile
look3+0x2e0 0x00012660  BL  fn0
look3+0x2e4 0x00012664  B   look3+0x1b0

ideas?

- erik

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

[EBo]

On Thu, 6 May 2010 14:21:24 -0700, Skip Tavakkolian <9...@9netics.com>
wrote:
>> doesn't the weather get ugly in seattle about that time?
> 
> pick any two: cheap, pretty, convenient. ☺

I do not know about you but when I go to a conference I actually go FOR
the conference.  If we really wanted pretty we should hold it in
conjunction with some university that has both a good computer science
department and a fashion department, and then do a Plan9 wearable computer
fashion show!  I think that would be prettier than staring at this mug
(speaking strictly for myself ;-)

  EBo --

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

[Skip Tavakkolian]

> Is seattle a one-hop place from Europe? I am sure it is from the
> important spots on the pacific rim ... this is an interesting
> suggestion!

daily direct flights from/to: Amsterdam, Frankfurt, London, Paris and Reykjavik

Re: [9fans] New user

[ruel hernandez]

Sorry, for the long delay to reply and thanks for all the
replies. htmlfmt is good enough for now,
while i'm still trying to learn the system.
I just hope that i'm not causing disturbance here cause i'm really hooked to
plan9 now, Today i'm installing it to our computer at work
so, i might need some help from time to time.
:)

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

[ron minnich]

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Skip Tavakkolian <9...@9netics.com> wrote:
>> doesn't the weather get ugly in seattle about that time?
>
> pick any two: cheap, pretty, convenient. ☺

I actually like seattle that time of year anyway.

Is seattle a one-hop place from Europe? I am sure it is from the
important spots on the pacific rim ... this is an interesting
suggestion!

I do know that there are many surprisingly cheap one-hop flights from
paris, frankfurt, etc. to san francisco.

ron

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

[Skip Tavakkolian]

> doesn't the weather get ugly in seattle about that time?

pick any two: cheap, pretty, convenient. ☺

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

[ron minnich]

doesn't the weather get ugly in seattle about that time?

ron

[9fans] (no subject)

[erik quanstrom]

- erik

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

[EBo]

> I would be very interested in attending IWP9, but whatever the location
> is, it will be probably out of my financial reach, combining travel and
> accomodations.
> 
> I think that I'm not the only one in this case: definitively no lack of
> interest; but lack of means---and lack of vision even for some months
> ahead.

my finances are extremely tight, but I will see if I can somehow squeeze
it out regardless.  But I too will be straining my financial future
scenario visioning.

> Mail doesn't replace face to face meeting. But even for the ones not
> attending, the published papers remain!

hmmm... I wonder if some sort of video conference could be set up for
virtual attendance for those who cannot make it ;-)

> So thank to the ones having made or undertaking the task to make such
> events: we will directly or indirectly benefit from them.

dito.

  EBo --

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

[Skip Tavakkolian]

> Let's try something else.

how about Seattle?  i have looked into conference facilities provided
by the Port of Seattle, and they seem reasonably priced.  there are
several locations, but the least expensive will be the conference
rooms at the airport.  for 60 or less people a room like the London
conference room will be adequate (see the link below).  Port of
Seattle provides free WiFi at the airport and there's good coverage.
There are many hotels within walking distance.  The Link Light Rail
runs from SeaTac to downtown Seattle (20 hours/day, at least every
15 minutes).

if i could get an approximate count i can get a good estimate for cost
of facilities + lunch/soft drinks.

Port of Seattle conference facilities:
http://www.portseattle.org/business/conferencefacilities/airport.shtml

London conference room:
http://www.portseattle.org/about/maps/conferencelondon.shtml

Hotels:
http://tinyurl.com/27p4s3b

Sound Transit Link Light Rail schedule
http://www.soundtransit.org/x11204.xml

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

[ron minnich]

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Skip Tavakkolian <9...@9netics.com> wrote:

>
>> *Weekday overnight accommodations are not available from September to June.
>
> this will mean peak season airfares and very tight deadline.

The food looked good but this weekday overnight thing is a deal breaker.

Let's try something else.

ron

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

[Skip Tavakkolian]

> Our overnight package includes:
> 
> * 3 meals per person
> * 1 meeting room for every 1 night stay
> * 1-time room set-up
> * Overnight lodging
> 
> Group sizeWeekday*Weekend**
> 10-25 people  $95.00/person   $99.00/person
> 26-75 people  $89/person  $93/person
> 76-150 people $87/person  $91.50/person

3 meals and room? are they serving porridge?  :)

> *Weekday overnight accommodations are not available from September to June.

this will mean peak season airfares and very tight deadline.

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

[Wes Kussmaul]

ron minnich wrote:

I figure Marin Headlands ought to be cheap (dormitory housing!) but
very attractive (right at the Golden Gate!). 


Cheap indeed! (apologies for the html)

Our overnight package includes:

   * 3 meals per person
   * 1 meeting room for every 1 night stay
   * 1-time room set-up
   * Overnight lodging

Group size  Weekday*Weekend**
10-25 people$95.00/person   $99.00/person
26-75 people$89/person  $93/person
76-150 people   $87/person  $91.50/person
Semi-private upgrade 
 (limited): 
$52/room/night


*Weekday overnight accommodations are not available from September to June.

**Friday, Saturday, and Sunday are considered weekend days.

--
Learn about The Authenticity Economy at 


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1419344994607129684&hl=en#

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

[tlaronde]

On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 04:18:55PM +, ron minnich wrote:
> 
> Do we have some idea of what people can afford? Another option is to
> have it right in SF, but that again starts to look pricey ($165/night
> minimum, cheap for you euro-spending guys but ...)

Hum... seems you're not listening to euro related news... Not to say
that in some months, euro will have probably disappeared ;)

I would be very interested in attending IWP9, but whatever the location
is, it will be probably out of my financial reach, combining travel and
accomodations.

I think that I'm not the only one in this case: definitively no lack of
interest; but lack of means---and lack of vision even for some months
ahead.

Mail doesn't replace face to face meeting. But even for the ones not
attending, the published papers remain!

So thank to the ones having made or undertaking the task to make such
events: we will directly or indirectly benefit from them.
-- 
Thierry Laronde 
  http://www.kergis.com/
Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89  250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] sources flproto example still accurate

[Brian L. Stuart]

--- On Thu, 5/6/10, Fernan Bolando  wrote:

> ...which led me to believe I needed to do an
> pre-authenticated
> connection, but as Skip pointed might not be possible if
> p9p is
> capable of doing authentication.

I'm pretty sure it is as long as you have the auth
server configured and you have factotum running.
I don't have my machine up at the moment, but I
do have that kind of connection as part of my login
script on FreeBSD using p9p.

BLS

Re: [9fans] testing...

[hugo rivera]

I got it.

2010/5/6 EBo (sandien) :
> My ISP is migrating email clients and this is apparently breaking my
> subscriptions...  Just a test to see if I can get through...
>
>  EBo --
>
>
>
>



-- 
Hugo

Re: [9fans] 3-button mouse

[ron minnich]

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Joseph Xu  wrote:

> I've never tried these (can't justify spending >$100) but they look really
> nice.
>
> http://ergo.contourdesign.com/products/product-detail.aspx?id=36
>

I'll let you know how it works, once I saw it was customized to hand
size that made the deal.

I love the web ordering site:
- no flash
- just black and white
- not a bunch of pictures
- just the information you need, no more

Who knew you could run a web site without AJAX? Could this be a trend?

ron

[9fans] testing...

[EBo (sandien)]

My ISP is migrating email clients and this is apparently breaking my
subscriptions...  Just a test to see if I can get through...

  EBo --
 

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

[ron minnich]

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:01 PM, erik quanstrom  wrote:

>
> are you gonna host?

Actually, the big question to start is: what are people willing to
pay? We have a lot of students, for example. IWP9 4 was a bargain.

I've had one experience with a workshop priced out of people's ability
to reach or pay (coreboot 2008 in denver) and don't want to make that
mistake again.

I figure Marin Headlands ought to be cheap (dormitory housing!) but
very attractive (right at the Golden Gate!). I confess I have not had
a workshop here, ever.

Do we have some idea of what people can afford? Another option is to
have it right in SF, but that again starts to look pricey ($165/night
minimum, cheap for you euro-spending guys but ...)

Send me a note off-list with what you think is affordable. I'm getting
close to being willing to host.

ron

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

[erik quanstrom]

On Thu May  6 12:01:32 EDT 2010, rminn...@gmail.com wrote:
> Me too. I thought 4 was great.
> 
> I keep wanting to have a workshop here:
> http://www.naturebridge.org/headlands/conference-facilities
> 
> It's stunning and SF is right over the bridge. This time around we
> could emphasize hacking more than talks, and let people show us what
> they've got. Would love to see the disconnected 9p stuff in action,
> for example.

are you gonna host?

- erik

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

[ron minnich]

Me too. I thought 4 was great.

I keep wanting to have a workshop here:
http://www.naturebridge.org/headlands/conference-facilities

It's stunning and SF is right over the bridge. This time around we
could emphasize hacking more than talks, and let people show us what
they've got. Would love to see the disconnected 9p stuff in action,
for example.

ron

Re: [9fans] sources flproto example still accurate

[erik quanstrom]

On Thu May  6 11:31:49 EDT 2010, fernanbola...@mailc.net wrote:
> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:00 PM, erik quanstrom  wrote:
> >> I dont know, but what is wrong with my configuration if I can mount
> >> sources like unauthenticated...
> >> mac0:~ fernan$ srv sources.cs.bell-labs.com sources
> >> mac0:~ fernan$ mkdir ./tmp/c
> >> mac0:~ fernan$ 9 mount `namespace`/sources ./tmp/c
> >> top level name fuse in fuse.version is invalid
> >> mac0:~ fernan$ lc ./tmp/c
> >> 9grid   adm     contrib dist    extra   lsr     patch   plan9   wiki    xen
> >> mac0:~ fernan$
> >>
> >> but not my cpu server???
> >
> > i'm confused.  your previous post had "srv -a".  i
> > thought unauthenticated was "srv -A".
> >
> > you may also need -N.
> >
> > - erik
> >
> 
[...]
> 
> man srv yields
> SYNOPSIS
>  srv [ -an ] [ -k keypattern ] address [ srvname ]
> 

i see now you were talking about p9p srv(4) not fossilcons(8)
srv.  sorry.

the difference with sources is sources allows attach as none.
i think you'll need to enable this with your listen via the
fossil console.

- erik

ps.  9fans.net/archive seems to be having a problem.
http://9fans.net/archive/2010/05/151 has turned '-' into
u+0096 (start of guarded area).  i no longer have the
original email, but it appeared normal when i read it.

Re: [9fans] sources flproto example still accurate

[Fernan Bolando]

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:00 PM, erik quanstrom  wrote:
>> I dont know, but what is wrong with my configuration if I can mount
>> sources like unauthenticated...
>> mac0:~ fernan$ srv sources.cs.bell-labs.com sources
>> mac0:~ fernan$ mkdir ./tmp/c
>> mac0:~ fernan$ 9 mount `namespace`/sources ./tmp/c
>> top level name fuse in fuse.version is invalid
>> mac0:~ fernan$ lc ./tmp/c
>> 9grid   adm     contrib dist    extra   lsr     patch   plan9   wiki    xen
>> mac0:~ fernan$
>>
>> but not my cpu server???
>
> i'm confused.  your previous post had "srv -a".  i
> thought unauthenticated was "srv -A".
>
> you may also need -N.
>
> - erik
>

sorry for the confusion. I initially tried to mount my cpu server using
mac0:~ fernan$ srv thinktank tt
mac0:~ fernan$ 9 mount `namespace`/tt ./tmp/g
top level name fuse in fuse.version is invalid
9pfuse: fsmount: cannot attach as none before authentication

man srv yields
SYNOPSIS
 srv [ -an ] [ -k keypattern ] address [ srvname ]

" The -a option causes srv to post a pre-authenticated connec-
  tion to the file system aname (by default, the empty string;
  see attach(9p))."

...which led me to believe I needed to do an pre-authenticated
connection, but as Skip pointed might not be possible if p9p is
capable of doing authentication. This then led to the question "What
do I need to do to allow me mount my cpu server the same way as I can
mount sources?"

fernan



-- 
http://www.fernski.com

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

[Jeff Sickel]

On May 6, 2010, at 9:55 AM, erik quanstrom wrote:

> speaking of which, is there any interest in iwp9 5e?

yes

Re: [9fans] sources flproto example still accurate

[erik quanstrom]

> I dont know, but what is wrong with my configuration if I can mount
> sources like unauthenticated...
> mac0:~ fernan$ srv sources.cs.bell-labs.com sources
> mac0:~ fernan$ mkdir ./tmp/c
> mac0:~ fernan$ 9 mount `namespace`/sources ./tmp/c
> top level name fuse in fuse.version is invalid
> mac0:~ fernan$ lc ./tmp/c
> 9grid   adm contrib distextra   lsr patch   plan9   wikixen
> mac0:~ fernan$
> 
> but not my cpu server???

i'm confused.  your previous post had "srv -a".  i
thought unauthenticated was "srv -A".

you may also need -N.

- erik

Re: [9fans] sources flproto example still accurate

[Fernan Bolando]

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 8:11 PM, Skip Tavakkolian <9...@9netics.com> wrote:
> is auth negotiation supported in p9p?
>
>> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Steve Simon  wrote:
 snaptime –a  –s 15
>>>
>>> I would not reccomend -s 15 for now, there appears to be a bug in fossil
>>> where it can deadlock itself somtimes - My home server used to lock up
>>> once every few weeks, after disabling snapshots it has been fine.
>>>
>>> I do still do nightly dumps to venti however, that part of the system
>>> is absolutely fine.
>>>
>>> -Steve
>>>
>>
>> Thanks, However it seems my problem is not my flproto
>>
>> if I try to mount the plan9 system without using srv -a I will get
>> $ 9 mount thinktank /tmp/c
>> top level name fuse in fuse.version is invalid
>> top level name macfuse in macfuse.version.number is invalid
>> 9pfuse: fsmount: cannot attach as none before authentication
>>
>> if I try to use srv -a I get
>> $ srv -a thinktank
>> !adding key: role=client proto=p9sk1 dom=fernan.net
>> user[fernan]: fernan
>>
>>
>> and it stays there forever. without asking me for my password. Any
>> ideas what I did wrong
>>
>>

I dont know, but what is wrong with my configuration if I can mount
sources like unauthenticated...
mac0:~ fernan$ srv sources.cs.bell-labs.com sources
mac0:~ fernan$ mkdir ./tmp/c
mac0:~ fernan$ 9 mount `namespace`/sources ./tmp/c
top level name fuse in fuse.version is invalid
mac0:~ fernan$ lc ./tmp/c
9grid   adm contrib distextra   lsr patch   plan9   wikixen
mac0:~ fernan$

but not my cpu server???

fernan




-- 
http://www.fernski.com

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

[erik quanstrom]

On Tue May  4 16:00:50 EDT 2010, jonas.amo...@home.se wrote:
> I am thinking of the durability of the URL:s for the
> various IWP9 articles. if www.iwp9.org will be reused
> for further hosting, a subdirectory (as in 'papers/4e/')
> might be a good idea.I suppose that some domain bloat
> is hard to avoid, when things are so decentralised ;-)

i've made everything from iwp9 4e available at
http://4e.iwp9.org.  none of the relative urls have
changed; they would be the preferred links.

no firm decision yet on if old links will need to be
broken to allow iwp9.org to be the "current" iwp9.

speaking of which, is there any interest in iwp9 5e?

- erik

Re: [9fans] sources flproto example still accurate

[Skip Tavakkolian]

is auth negotiation supported in p9p?

> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Steve Simon  wrote:
>>> snaptime –a  –s 15
>>
>> I would not reccomend -s 15 for now, there appears to be a bug in fossil
>> where it can deadlock itself somtimes - My home server used to lock up
>> once every few weeks, after disabling snapshots it has been fine.
>>
>> I do still do nightly dumps to venti however, that part of the system
>> is absolutely fine.
>>
>> -Steve
>>
> 
> Thanks, However it seems my problem is not my flproto
> 
> if I try to mount the plan9 system without using srv -a I will get
> $ 9 mount thinktank /tmp/c
> top level name fuse in fuse.version is invalid
> top level name macfuse in macfuse.version.number is invalid
> 9pfuse: fsmount: cannot attach as none before authentication
> 
> if I try to use srv -a I get
> $ srv -a thinktank
> !adding key: role=client proto=p9sk1 dom=fernan.net
> user[fernan]: fernan
> 
> 
> and it stays there forever. without asking me for my password. Any
> ideas what I did wrong
> 
> 
> -- 
> http://www.fernski.com

Re: [9fans] sources flproto example still accurate

[Fernan Bolando]

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Steve Simon  wrote:
>> snaptime –a  –s 15
>
> I would not reccomend -s 15 for now, there appears to be a bug in fossil
> where it can deadlock itself somtimes - My home server used to lock up
> once every few weeks, after disabling snapshots it has been fine.
>
> I do still do nightly dumps to venti however, that part of the system
> is absolutely fine.
>
> -Steve
>

Thanks, However it seems my problem is not my flproto

if I try to mount the plan9 system without using srv -a I will get
$ 9 mount thinktank /tmp/c
top level name fuse in fuse.version is invalid
top level name macfuse in macfuse.version.number is invalid
9pfuse: fsmount: cannot attach as none before authentication

if I try to use srv -a I get
$ srv -a thinktank
!adding key: role=client proto=p9sk1 dom=fernan.net
user[fernan]: fernan


and it stays there forever. without asking me for my password. Any
ideas what I did wrong


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Re: [9fans] 3-button mouse

[Mathieu Lonjaret]

Hello,

Just one comment about the vertical Evoluent mouse (I bought one a few
months ago since Russ recommended them).

It can be pretty hard to get used to it. I had to force myself to try
it several times before I could stand using it. I think the main
reason is because you apply horizontal pressure when clicking and that
can make the pointer move unvoluntarily on your part. That gets pretty
annoying when it makes you fail at your chordings and you have some
code to produce.
Now I'm starting to really like it; I'd say one gets past the
annoyance if you manage to keep using it for a full day without
throwing it away for another mouse. In fact I'd recommend trying it
and starting to use it on day when it's not so important to be
efficient and you can afford to loose a bit of time to it. Sounds like
common sense now, but I think it's particularly true with that mouse.

Cheers,
Mathieu

Re: [9fans] sources flproto example still accurate

[Steve Simon]

> snaptime –a  –s 15

I would not reccomend -s 15 for now, there appears to be a bug in fossil
where it can deadlock itself somtimes - My home server used to lock up
once every few weeks, after disabling snapshots it has been fine.

I do still do nightly dumps to venti however, that part of the system
is absolutely fine.

-Steve

Re: [9fans] An Important Node

[lucio]

> Yes, I had to do a fair bit of work to get my OfficeJet 5610 working
> with Plan 9. That topic was taken care of in a separate series of
> posts a while back. I documented the procedure in my contrib:

I recall now: my poor memory should not be taken as a reflection of
the value of your efforts and contributions :-)

++L

[9fans] sources flproto example still accurate

[Fernan Bolando]

Hi all

Is this example from "man fossilcons" still accurate?

srv –p fscons.sources
srv –p fscons.sources.adduserd
srv sources
fsys main config /dev/sdC0/fossil.outside
fsys main open –c 25600
fsys main
users /active/adm/users
listen tcp!*!564
msg –m 40 –p 10
snaptime –a  –s 15


I am trying to figure out why I can mount sources, but not my local
cpu/auth/fileserver into my mac os x computer.

regards
fernan

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