Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

2024-03-11 Thread Rui Carmo
I am curious. What is your fork used for, and can we look at it, or screenshots?On 26 Jan 2024, at 17:03, ibrahim via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wrote: First of all, I have my own fork of plan9 which was/is used by a few hundred users.My fork is based on 9legacy. And I'm really surprised to regularly

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread Rui Carmo
5AM +0100, Rui Carmo wrote: >> I wouldn’t allow the passive-aggressive mood that surfaces here from >> time to time to turn me off the project. > > How about regular aggressive? Regular aggressive is taking things outside the realm of civilised discourse, which is easy to do beh

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread Rui Carmo
I wouldn’t allow the passive-aggressive mood that surfaces here from time to time to turn me off the project. That said, I’m fascinated by how often (and how quickly) some threads devolve into “there is no point in doing that” or “we don’t need those modern contraptions” arguments - reminds me

Re: [9fans] 9P or better file services for multiple platforms

2018-09-01 Thread Rui Carmo
I myself have similar needs and recently bookmarked this: https://github.com/chaos/diod (but had no time to test it yet). R.

Re: [9fans] What are you using Plan 9 for?

2018-06-21 Thread Rui Carmo
I’m late to the thread, but this seems like a good point to step in. I’m using plan9 on a quad-core Raspberry Pi as a sort of universal terminal to manage some of my home machines, and recently deleted the 9front VM I had on my home KVM server because even though the programming model and Go sup

Re: [9fans] Plan9 on Pi 3B+

2018-04-05 Thread Rui Carmo
They’re still under the same baseline SoC constraints (plus the USB bus). Biggest constraint for me is the lack of RAM, though. R. > On 5 Apr 2018, at 23:13, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > > "The Python performance with this new Raspberry Pi 3 is now in line > with the Pine A64. > While the

Re: [9fans] SCMs

2018-02-13 Thread Rui Carmo
> On 14 Feb 2018, at 01:47, Bakul Shah wrote: > > Dave MacFarlane's git client (dgit) does a decent job on plan9. This interests me greatly. Last time I checked there wasn’t a good enough got client, so I used Mercurial. Where is dgit exactly? R.

Re: [9fans] There is no fork

2018-02-13 Thread Rui Carmo
> On 14 Feb 2018, at 00:31, s...@9front.org wrote: > > 1.) is the wrong approach. Just build inside Plan 9. You missed the rest of the thread. R.

Re: [9fans] There is no fork

2018-02-13 Thread Rui Carmo
> On 13 Feb 2018, at 19:10, Kurt H Maier > wrote: > >> For using QEMU’s virtualization features inside Hyper-V. > > If Hyper-V is still capable of running Xen guests, you may want to look > at the code on sources for a start in that direction. That way you > could skip

Re: [9fans] There is no fork

2018-02-13 Thread Rui Carmo
> On 13 Feb 2018, at 18:12, Kurt H Maier wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 05:01:35PM +0000, Rui Carmo wrote: >> >> A full build environment (the way I’m used to having it) comprises the >> end-to-end automation for creating a full build, > > A full bu

Re: [9fans] There is no fork

2018-02-13 Thread Rui Carmo
> On 13 Feb 2018, at 16:25, Kurt H Maier wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 03:10:34PM +0000, Rui Carmo wrote: >> >> The main issue for me is putting together a build environment on top of KVM >> or Linux, which isn’t covered in the FQA. >> > >

Re: [9fans] There is no fork

2018-02-13 Thread Rui Carmo
> On 13 Feb 2018, at 11:05, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Rui, please present any issues you had with the step-by-step > introductions in the fqa to us on the 9front mailinglist in a > designated thread. The main issue for me is putting together a build environment on top of KVM or Linux,

Re: [9fans] There is no fork

2018-02-13 Thread Rui Carmo
> On 13 Feb 2018, at 03:06, Lucio De Re wrote: > Touche'. I'd certainly like to contribute, but herding the Plan 9 cats > is beyond any managerial skills I may have. I think management wouldn’t be the issue. From the outside looking in, what transpires the most is that there is very little inf

Re: [9fans] There is no fork

2018-02-11 Thread Rui Carmo
Jehanne is something I’ve been keeping track of, in hopes that rio gets nicer defaults. You should write more about it. :) I’ve been toying with the notion of hacking a nicer (for me) visual theme, but lack of time prevailed. But I will move my Pi to 9front as soon as possible... R. > On 11 Fe

Re: [9fans] RasPi why?

2018-02-05 Thread Rui Carmo
Actually, there has been a trend towards standardising the device tree, and I can run ARM5 binaries on an ARMv7 without hassles. The jump to ARM64 does have some constraints, but I haven’t come across anything significant yet (at least on Linux). And you _will_ have ARM laptops (in volume) very

Re: [9fans] RasPi why?

2018-02-04 Thread Rui Carmo
There’s a fair amount of FUD here. The light sensitivity was fixed with a new component run (and, incidentally, is not specific to the Pi, you can take out other exposed electronics/computers with a flash), and the reliability pretty much became a non-issue since the Pi 2. People buy Pis becaus

Re: [9fans] RPI faq in words of one syllable?

2018-01-11 Thread Rui Carmo
Before anyone chimes in to say “just read the docs”, I did that back in early 2016 as a complete newbie to Plan9 and spent a _long_ while hunting down stuff - not on the hardware and purchasing side (I have too many Pis and Arduinos for that to even register), but on the OS and config side. Fl

Re: [9fans] Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-11 Thread Rui Carmo
If that’s working with WPA2, I’m interested too. > On 11 Jan 2018, at 09:35, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > > when did you implement wifi on the rpi?! >

Re: [9fans] Inferno hosted for browser

2018-01-06 Thread Rui Carmo
There is no sandboxing, because hosted inferno is just a user-level process, and the “operating system” part of it is the dis virtual machine, the namespace manager and little else. R. > On 4 Jan 2018, at 02:45, N. S. Montanaro wrote: > > This made me curious enough to install Inferno and giv

Re: [9fans] Inferno on microcontrollers

2018-01-02 Thread Rui Carmo
> On 31 Dec 2017, at 20:43, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> i would be very happy to see a modern browser on plan9, though >> i would not want anyone to spend a lot of time supporting one. > >> in the meantime i just use remote desktop to a windows box. > > what's the difference really? i

Re: [9fans] Inferno on microcontrollers

2018-01-02 Thread Rui Carmo
> On 31 Dec 2017, at 21:05, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I started porting a 9p library and writing an fs for esp8266 using >> espressif sdk, but stopped once I found out tls1.2 isn't supported (not >> fixable; bug in firmware). >> I think esp32 is a better choice, but then, why not use r

[9fans] Inferno on microcontrollers

2017-12-31 Thread Rui Carmo
Dec 2017, at 19:57, Andre Wingor wrote: > >> On 12/30/17, Rui Carmo wrote: >> That reminds me. Weren’t there some Inferno ports for micro controllers, > > Until now I did not have a need for this, so I do not know. > But often there is a need for a compact live VM with a rea

Re: [9fans] Inferno on Plan9

2017-12-30 Thread Rui Carmo
That reminds me. Weren’t there some Inferno ports for micro controllers, along the lines of the Arduino variants or their industrial counterparts? R. > On 30 Dec 2017, at 13:41, James A. Robinson wrote: > > Some folks did put Inferno onto an Android phone: > > https://bluishcoder.co.nz/2012/0