Re: [A-1-Computer_Tech] Email program suggestion? - just about ready to scream
My email is all messed up now. Gmail is for more personal stuff this one is for everything else. But...ATT webmail, which is handled by Yahoo just went nuts. Everything goes to trash file not inbox. Pain to get to using my non-smart phone at a light. Happens on phone or pc with the webmail. Even with my client I check webmail because spam goes there. And sometimes it's not really SPAM. Also use to be if I got mail on one pc it would still usually show up on my other too, now it does not. So I have mail scattered. I put Tbird on my mini because mail and express are gone with Win7. It's better than using webmail(except for checking for SPAM)but sometimes mail shows up late sometimes the next day. I think I can use Tbird to read Gmail but not the other way? - Original Message - From: xmdp mper...@gmail.com To: A-1-Computer_Tech@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2013 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [A-1-Computer_Tech] Email program suggestion? - just about ready to scream I vote gmail too. Loved Eudora and especially Calypso but gmail just makes more sense now and I like the integrated calendar. Many useful features and some useless (to me) ones, too. On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Donk d.knier...@verizon.net wrote: ** Hi Theresa - Yep, I remember your probs with Tbird, and how you've tried everything but voodoo to fix them. What about what Holly said, just going with Gmail and skipping the desktop client all together? Gmail can def handle huge volumes of mail. It doesn't have all the features of a desktop client, but you can still set up filters, etc. I'm still almost certain that your probs with not having Tbird sync with Gmail is caused by a slow dialup connection. So if you go strictly with the cloud you'll eliminate the need to sync at all. Have you looked at Yahoo! email? I use their basic version and it is ok - but for your volume of mail and feature needs you'd want to go with their paid version. Offers 200 filters, forwarding, POP too (if you want it), no ads, an offline mode, etc. And it's only $19.99 for a year. http://mailplus.mail.yahoo.com/ They also have a pretty nice Android smartphone, tablet app. Not sure about iPhone. Donk On 6/8/2013 8:40 PM, Theresa wrote: No, you don't have to close your ears, I'll scream quietly, I promise. :-) While I used to love my Thunderbird email program, I started looking through the folders tonight. It's been a few days since I really checked to see what I've received. I don't have a clue about what the program is doing/has done. Several emails I have multiple copies for, some as many as five; the filters work when they want to, and aren't even unchecking as they used to when there was a problem. I spent at least 15 minutes again today deleting emails from Gmail online because either it or Tbird or both can't receive/send the message that messages have been deleted - so when Tbird picks up, the messages are still in Gmail (we decided once that it was probably dial-ups fault - and I have POP3). I have, while Tbird was off, gone in under Windows Explorer and looked at the data folders - there are folders and emails in there that I deleted ages ago, from all 3 of the accounts that I get. You all know how I feel about not being able to automatically sort the filters. HP's diagnostics says my hard drive passes all the tests. I scan regularly with my avast!, and ran the online scanner with bit defender a couple of days ago, and both report that I am clean. Getting ready to run bd again, because avast!'s daily run says I'm fine. I loved Eudora. For a long while Tbird was a great replacement. (I'm running Windows 7 Home, by the way.) I get 2-400 emails a day. I love that Thunderbird is non-Microsoft. I like the ease of transferring and adding and subtracting folders. I like the relative ease of backing up my filters and data. I wanted/want something that's actually being worked on, for support. Any suggestions for replacement? I would definitely appreciate them. I have several folders, and definitely some to keep emails, so I don't feel I can just try programs randomly. I want something reliable, not Microsoft, where I can sort filters automatically, it won't lose emails, backs up at least decently well, can handle several accounts (at least 3) with many emails a day, and sorts/filters like it's supposed to. I suppose I'm looking for a dream program? Thanks Theresa [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] If you have any questions or problems with any aspect of this site, please feel free to contact me directly bi...@optonline.net Please do not post personal issues directly to the group. To unsubscribe from this list, send an email to a-1-computer_tech-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com Thank you for using A-1 Computer TechYahoo! Groups Links
Re: [A-1-Computer_Tech] Email program suggestion? - just about ready to scream
Hi Theresa - Yep, I remember your probs with Tbird, and how you've tried everything but voodoo to fix them. What about what Holly said, just going with Gmail and skipping the desktop client all together? Gmail can def handle huge volumes of mail. It doesn't have all the features of a desktop client, but you can still set up filters, etc. I'm still almost certain that your probs with not having Tbird sync with Gmail is caused by a slow dialup connection. So if you go strictly with the cloud you'll eliminate the need to sync at all. Have you looked at Yahoo! email? I use their basic version and it is ok - but for your volume of mail and feature needs you'd want to go with their paid version. Offers 200 filters, forwarding, POP too (if you want it), no ads, an offline mode, etc. And it's only $19.99 for a year. http://mailplus.mail.yahoo.com/ They also have a pretty nice Android smartphone, tablet app. Not sure about iPhone. Donk On 6/8/2013 8:40 PM, Theresa wrote: No, you don't have to close your ears, I'll scream quietly, I promise. :-) While I used to love my Thunderbird email program, I started looking through the folders tonight. It's been a few days since I really checked to see what I've received. I don't have a clue about what the program is doing/has done. Several emails I have multiple copies for, some as many as five; the filters work when they want to, and aren't even unchecking as they used to when there was a problem. I spent at least 15 minutes again today deleting emails from Gmail online because either it or Tbird or both can't receive/send the message that messages have been deleted - so when Tbird picks up, the messages are still in Gmail (we decided once that it was probably dial-ups fault - and I have POP3). I have, while Tbird was off, gone in under Windows Explorer and looked at the data folders - there are folders and emails in there that I deleted ages ago, from all 3 of the accounts that I get. You all know how I feel about not being able to automatically sort the filters. HP's diagnostics says my hard drive passes all the tests. I scan regularly with my avast!, and ran the online scanner with bit defender a couple of days ago, and both report that I am clean. Getting ready to run bd again, because avast!'s daily run says I'm fine. I loved Eudora. For a long while Tbird was a great replacement. (I'm running Windows 7 Home, by the way.) I get 2-400 emails a day. I love that Thunderbird is non-Microsoft. I like the ease of transferring and adding and subtracting folders. I like the relative ease of backing up my filters and data. I wanted/want something that's actually being worked on, for support. Any suggestions for replacement? I would definitely appreciate them. I have several folders, and definitely some to keep emails, so I don't feel I can just try programs randomly. I want something reliable, not Microsoft, where I can sort filters automatically, it won't lose emails, backs up at least decently well, can handle several accounts (at least 3) with many emails a day, and sorts/filters like it's supposed to. I suppose I'm looking for a dream program? Thanks Theresa If you have any questions or problems with any aspect of this site, please feel free to contact me directly bi...@optonline.net Please do not post personal issues directly to the group. To unsubscribe from this list, send an email to a-1-computer_tech-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com Thank you for using A-1 Computer TechYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/A-1-Computer_Tech/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/A-1-Computer_Tech/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: a-1-computer_tech-dig...@yahoogroups.com a-1-computer_tech-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: a-1-computer_tech-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [A-1-Computer_Tech] Email program suggestion? - just about ready to scream
I vote gmail too. Loved Eudora and especially Calypso but gmail just makes more sense now and I like the integrated calendar. Many useful features and some useless (to me) ones, too. On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Donk d.knier...@verizon.net wrote: ** Hi Theresa - Yep, I remember your probs with Tbird, and how you've tried everything but voodoo to fix them. What about what Holly said, just going with Gmail and skipping the desktop client all together? Gmail can def handle huge volumes of mail. It doesn't have all the features of a desktop client, but you can still set up filters, etc. I'm still almost certain that your probs with not having Tbird sync with Gmail is caused by a slow dialup connection. So if you go strictly with the cloud you'll eliminate the need to sync at all. Have you looked at Yahoo! email? I use their basic version and it is ok - but for your volume of mail and feature needs you'd want to go with their paid version. Offers 200 filters, forwarding, POP too (if you want it), no ads, an offline mode, etc. And it's only $19.99 for a year. http://mailplus.mail.yahoo.com/ They also have a pretty nice Android smartphone, tablet app. Not sure about iPhone. Donk On 6/8/2013 8:40 PM, Theresa wrote: No, you don't have to close your ears, I'll scream quietly, I promise. :-) While I used to love my Thunderbird email program, I started looking through the folders tonight. It's been a few days since I really checked to see what I've received. I don't have a clue about what the program is doing/has done. Several emails I have multiple copies for, some as many as five; the filters work when they want to, and aren't even unchecking as they used to when there was a problem. I spent at least 15 minutes again today deleting emails from Gmail online because either it or Tbird or both can't receive/send the message that messages have been deleted - so when Tbird picks up, the messages are still in Gmail (we decided once that it was probably dial-ups fault - and I have POP3). I have, while Tbird was off, gone in under Windows Explorer and looked at the data folders - there are folders and emails in there that I deleted ages ago, from all 3 of the accounts that I get. You all know how I feel about not being able to automatically sort the filters. HP's diagnostics says my hard drive passes all the tests. I scan regularly with my avast!, and ran the online scanner with bit defender a couple of days ago, and both report that I am clean. Getting ready to run bd again, because avast!'s daily run says I'm fine. I loved Eudora. For a long while Tbird was a great replacement. (I'm running Windows 7 Home, by the way.) I get 2-400 emails a day. I love that Thunderbird is non-Microsoft. I like the ease of transferring and adding and subtracting folders. I like the relative ease of backing up my filters and data. I wanted/want something that's actually being worked on, for support. Any suggestions for replacement? I would definitely appreciate them. I have several folders, and definitely some to keep emails, so I don't feel I can just try programs randomly. I want something reliable, not Microsoft, where I can sort filters automatically, it won't lose emails, backs up at least decently well, can handle several accounts (at least 3) with many emails a day, and sorts/filters like it's supposed to. I suppose I'm looking for a dream program? Thanks Theresa [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] If you have any questions or problems with any aspect of this site, please feel free to contact me directly bi...@optonline.net Please do not post personal issues directly to the group. To unsubscribe from this list, send an email to a-1-computer_tech-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com Thank you for using A-1 Computer TechYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/A-1-Computer_Tech/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/A-1-Computer_Tech/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: a-1-computer_tech-dig...@yahoogroups.com a-1-computer_tech-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: a-1-computer_tech-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [A-1-Computer_Tech] Email program suggestion? - just about ready to scream
On 6/9/2013 11:27 AM, Donk wrote: Hi Theresa - Yep, I remember your probs with Tbird, and how you've tried everything but voodoo to fix them. What about what Holly said, just going with Gmail and skipping the desktop client all together? Gmail can def handle huge volumes of mail. It doesn't have all the features of a desktop client, but you can still set up filters, etc. I'm still almost certain that your probs with not having Tbird sync with Gmail is caused by a slow dialup connection. So if you go strictly with the cloud you'll eliminate the need to sync at all. Have you looked at Yahoo! email? I use their basic version and it is ok - but for your volume of mail and feature needs you'd want to go with their paid version. Offers 200 filters, forwarding, POP too (if you want it), no ads, an offline mode, etc. And it's only $19.99 for a year. http://mailplus.mail.yahoo.com/ They also have a pretty nice Android smartphone, tablet app. Not sure about iPhone. Donk On 6/8/2013 8:40 PM, Theresa wrote: No, you don't have to close your ears, I'll scream quietly, I promise. :-) While I used to love my Thunderbird email program, I started looking through the folders tonight. It's been a few days since I really checked to see what I've received. I don't have a clue about what the program is doing/has done. Several emails I have multiple copies for, some as many as five; the filters work when they want to, and aren't even unchecking as they used to when there was a problem. I spent at least 15 minutes again today deleting emails from Gmail online because either it or Tbird or both can't receive/send the message that messages have been deleted - so when Tbird picks up, the messages are still in Gmail (we decided once that it was probably dial-ups fault - and I have POP3). I have, while Tbird was off, gone in under Windows Explorer and looked at the data folders - there are folders and emails in there that I deleted ages ago, from all 3 of the accounts that I get. You all know how I feel about not being able to automatically sort the filters. HP's diagnostics says my hard drive passes all the tests. I scan regularly with my avast!, and ran the online scanner with bit defender a couple of days ago, and both report that I am clean. Getting ready to run bd again, because avast!'s daily run says I'm fine. I loved Eudora. For a long while Tbird was a great replacement. (I'm running Windows 7 Home, by the way.) I get 2-400 emails a day. I love that Thunderbird is non-Microsoft. I like the ease of transferring and adding and subtracting folders. I like the relative ease of backing up my filters and data. I wanted/want something that's actually being worked on, for support. Any suggestions for replacement? I would definitely appreciate them. I have several folders, and definitely some to keep emails, so I don't feel I can just try programs randomly. I want something reliable, not Microsoft, where I can sort filters automatically, it won't lose emails, backs up at least decently well, can handle several accounts (at least 3) with many emails a day, and sorts/filters like it's supposed to. I suppose I'm looking for a dream program? Thanks Theresa Theresa, I don't comment much(more read to learn something I might have missed), but this caught eye. Having one's e-mail on-line, or off-line, is a 50/50. Yes, I understand the suggestion that Gmail may solve your problem. Then again, while solving one problem, it could create a host of new problems. On-line, you don't get to make the decision about e-mail security. If someone wants' to see my e-mail so badly, I would rather, they try to hack my network at home, than a website. My Yahoo e-mail address, I only keep as a secondary account, but I rarely check it. My ex actually had to get a new Yahoo ID about two years ago, when I noticed her e-mail was hacked(we were members of the same discussion forum). I understand what is being said about the filters. Sometimes the filters will save multiple copies of one e-mail, one particular but different detail in each filter. For instance, if someone had one folder for 'Depression', and one folder for 'Weather', if the word 'depression' is somehow key to each filter, the e-mail will be copied to both folders. As for Gmail and Tbird syncing, I agree with Donk about the dial-up connection being the cause. Not just the speed. But also, with a dial-up connection, you have to 'trick' the ISP servers into technically thinking you are still online doing something, so the connection doesn't get cut from inactivity. With Tbird, you can set it up to do periodic mail download checks, in order to sustain the connection. When I had a dial-up connection, I also added the virus scanner updates to the mix, all to fool the servers into thinking I was online all that time. Christopher If you have any
[A-1-Computer_Tech] Email program suggestion? - just about ready to scream
No, you don't have to close your ears, I'll scream quietly, I promise. :-) While I used to love my Thunderbird email program, I started looking through the folders tonight. It's been a few days since I really checked to see what I've received. I don't have a clue about what the program is doing/has done. Several emails I have multiple copies for, some as many as five; the filters work when they want to, and aren't even unchecking as they used to when there was a problem. I spent at least 15 minutes again today deleting emails from Gmail online because either it or Tbird or both can't receive/send the message that messages have been deleted - so when Tbird picks up, the messages are still in Gmail (we decided once that it was probably dial-ups fault - and I have POP3). I have, while Tbird was off, gone in under Windows Explorer and looked at the data folders - there are folders and emails in there that I deleted ages ago, from all 3 of the accounts that I get. You all know how I feel about not being able to automatically sort the filters. HP's diagnostics says my hard drive passes all the tests. I scan regularly with my avast!, and ran the online scanner with bit defender a couple of days ago, and both report that I am clean. Getting ready to run bd again, because avast!'s daily run says I'm fine. I loved Eudora. For a long while Tbird was a great replacement. (I'm running Windows 7 Home, by the way.) I get 2-400 emails a day. I love that Thunderbird is non-Microsoft. I like the ease of transferring and adding and subtracting folders. I like the relative ease of backing up my filters and data. I wanted/want something that's actually being worked on, for support. Any suggestions for replacement? I would definitely appreciate them. I have several folders, and definitely some to keep emails, so I don't feel I can just try programs randomly. I want something reliable, not Microsoft, where I can sort filters automatically, it won't lose emails, backs up at least decently well, can handle several accounts (at least 3) with many emails a day, and sorts/filters like it's supposed to. I suppose I'm looking for a dream program? Thanks Theresa If you have any questions or problems with any aspect of this site, please feel free to contact me directly bi...@optonline.net Please do not post personal issues directly to the group. To unsubscribe from this list, send an email to a-1-computer_tech-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com Thank you for using A-1 Computer TechYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/A-1-Computer_Tech/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/A-1-Computer_Tech/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: a-1-computer_tech-dig...@yahoogroups.com a-1-computer_tech-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: a-1-computer_tech-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [A-1-Computer_Tech] Email program suggestion? - just about ready to scream
Teresa, why do you need anything more than Gmail? I have other accounts, one from my domain, the one from my provider, etc. but I use Gmail for everything. I have three separate accounts for various uses and then filter the messages into folders. It works very well for me. One good feature is that they sort spam away from your mailbox so you can either delete them periodically or have them automatically go away after a certain period of time. Holly On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Theresa tlr28...@gmail.com wrote: No, you don't have to close your ears, I'll scream quietly, I promise. :-) While I used to love my Thunderbird email program, I started looking through the folders tonight. It's been a few days since I really checked to see what I've received. I don't have a clue about what the program is doing/has done. Several emails I have multiple copies for, some as many as five; the filters work when they want to, and aren't even unchecking as they used to when there was a problem. I spent at least 15 minutes again today deleting emails from Gmail online because either it or Tbird or both can't receive/send the message that messages have been deleted - so when Tbird picks up, the messages are still in Gmail (we decided once that it was probably dial-ups fault - and I have POP3). I have, while Tbird was off, gone in under Windows Explorer and looked at the data folders - there are folders and emails in there that I deleted ages ago, from all 3 of the accounts that I get. You all know how I feel about not being able to automatically sort the filters. HP's diagnostics says my hard drive passes all the tests. I scan regularly with my avast!, and ran the online scanner with bit defender a couple of days ago, and both report that I am clean. Getting ready to run bd again, because avast!'s daily run says I'm fine. I loved Eudora. For a long while Tbird was a great replacement. (I'm running Windows 7 Home, by the way.) I get 2-400 emails a day. I love that Thunderbird is non-Microsoft. I like the ease of transferring and adding and subtracting folders. I like the relative ease of backing up my filters and data. I wanted/want something that's actually being worked on, for support. Any suggestions for replacement? I would definitely appreciate them. I have several folders, and definitely some to keep emails, so I don't feel I can just try programs randomly. I want something reliable, not Microsoft, where I can sort filters automatically, it won't lose emails, backs up at least decently well, can handle several accounts (at least 3) with many emails a day, and sorts/filters like it's supposed to. I suppose I'm looking for a dream program? Thanks Theresa If you have any questions or problems with any aspect of this site, please feel free to contact me directly bi...@optonline.net Please do not post personal issues directly to the group. To unsubscribe from this list, send an email to a-1-computer_tech-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com Thank you for using A-1 Computer TechYahoo! Groups Links -- ~ Remember ~ If you forward this, PLEASE REMOVE all email addresses before you send it on and use the BCC area when forwarding to several people at once. HELP DESTROY Spam Reply to hkl...@gmail.com View all my websites from http://www.hollyscloset.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] If you have any questions or problems with any aspect of this site, please feel free to contact me directly bi...@optonline.net Please do not post personal issues directly to the group. To unsubscribe from this list, send an email to a-1-computer_tech-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com Thank you for using A-1 Computer TechYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/A-1-Computer_Tech/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/A-1-Computer_Tech/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: a-1-computer_tech-dig...@yahoogroups.com a-1-computer_tech-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: a-1-computer_tech-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
