Re: [abcusers] Modes, democracy and benevolent(?) dictatorship

2000-10-15 Thread Wendy Galovich
At 09:41 PM 10/15/2000 EDT, you wrote: > >http://members.aol.com/LewesArmsFolk/Lewesfav.html. It appears on the abc >homepage under abc collections as "Favourite English dance tunes from the >Lewes sessions, Sussex". I'd like this to be accessible to other people's >software. That be

[abcusers] Modes, democracy and benevolent(?) dictatorship

2000-10-15 Thread Bryancreer
Phil Taylor says - > Any system of democracy involves a franchise: there are always some people > who are entitled to vote and some who are not. We don't allow children, > criminals, lunatics or the Queen to elect our politicians I'm sure "the vast majority of users" will be glad to know the h

Re: [abcusers] Modes

2000-10-15 Thread Laura Conrad
> "Richard" == Richard Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Richard> On Sat, 14 Oct 2000, Laurie Griffiths wrote: >> Not sure if the users list is actually dead and rotted or if it >> exists but is unused. The difference is academic anyway. Richard> It is, but ... I tried i

Re: [abcusers] Quintuplets

2000-10-15 Thread Phil Taylor
In a moment of absent-mindedness I wrote: >The way around it is to take advantage of the extended tuplet notation >described >in the next section of the standard, and write: > >(5:4:4 > >meaning five notes in the time of four for the next four notes, which is what >you want. > No it aint. What

Re: [abcusers] Modes

2000-10-15 Thread Eric M. Mrozek
> > History: There used to be an ABC developers list, only. Then there was a > > users list as well, then development issues started getting discussed on the > > users list and a consensus seemed to develop that users were interested > > enough in what went on that everything was on the users li

Re: [abcusers] Quintuplets

2000-10-15 Thread Phil Taylor
Frank Nordberg wrote: >I've just translated a Beethoven piece into ABC, and ran into a strange >problem. >Now, I've always heard quintuplet defined as "five notes in the place of >four", but it seems strange that three independently developed ABC >applications can have exactly the same bug. So

Re: [abcusers] I finally uploaded jaabc2ps

2000-10-15 Thread John Henckel
John Atchley!!! THANK YOU!!! I have been using abcm2ps for over 3 months and just today I looked at your "new features and read >The first thing about abcm2ps that irritated me enough to start digging >into the source code was the barlines that crossed the vocal space EXACTLY the thing

[abcusers] Quintuplets

2000-10-15 Thread Frank Nordberg
I've just translated a Beethoven piece into ABC, and ran into a strange problem. One of the bars (actually two of them) goes like this: X:1 T:Sixteenth note quintuplet M:2/4 L:1/8 K:Eb (5b/c'/b/a/b/ c'b| that is, with a pretty common sixteenth note quintuplet. For some reason that doesn't seem

[abcusers] Modes, boors, bores, and the trash at the curb...

2000-10-15 Thread John Atchley
Phil Taylor gave us Barfly. Though I don't use a Mac I am given to understand that Barfly is the defacto standard for abc software on that platform and that it does a pretty good job of playing and scoring abc. Laurie Griffiths gave us Muse. It doesn't "flip my personal wipper" but I'd be th

Re: [abcusers] I finally uploaded jaabc2ps

2000-10-15 Thread Frank Nordberg
John Atchley wrote: > > Okay, it's still not documented anywhere near as thoroughly as I would > like, but I've been promising to upload it for months. In the aerospace > industry we have a saying that in the life of every project the time comes > when you simply have to shoot the scientists,

Re: [abcusers] Modes

2000-10-15 Thread Richard Robinson
On Sat, 14 Oct 2000, Laurie Griffiths wrote: > > > WHAT? Says who? This is the abc USERS list. > > History: There used to be an ABC developers list, only. Then there was a > users list as well, then development issues started getting discussed on the > users list and a consensus seemed

Re: [abcusers] I finally uploaded jaabc2ps

2000-10-15 Thread Atte André Jensen
On Sun, 15 Oct 2000, John Atchley wrote: > Visit if you're interested. Tried that, but I could'n find any links to the source (or to anything else for that matter)... -- Atte André Jensen To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tul

Re: [abcusers] K: and k: - proposal for resolution

2000-10-15 Thread jc
Steve Mansfield writes: | As K: is already established as the 'key signature' field, and there are | thousands of abc files already out in the wild, would it not make sense | to leave K: as the 'key signature' and k: as the 'mode' (please excuse | descriptors!) Methinks you got it backw

[abcusers] I finally uploaded jaabc2ps

2000-10-15 Thread John Atchley
Okay, it's still not documented anywhere near as thoroughly as I would like, but I've been promising to upload it for months. In the aerospace industry we have a saying that in the life of every project the time comes when you simply have to shoot the scientists, lay off the engineers, and st

Re: [abcusers] Modes

2000-10-15 Thread Laurie Griffiths
> You, infamously, said "WE like it the way it is." You are starting to annoy me. What I said was that we like it ... AND that reading through the thread would show who "we" is. In other words that there were several people, including myself who were of that opinion and that if you wanted t

Re: [abcusers] Modes

2000-10-15 Thread Phil Taylor
Bryan Creer wrote: >Laurie Grifiths says - > >> History: There used to be an ABC developers list, only. Then there was a >> users list as well, then development issues started getting discussed on the >> users list and a consensus seemed to develop that users were interested >> enough in what w

Re: [abcusers] Modes (was O'Neill errors)

2000-10-15 Thread Phil Taylor
Frank Nordberg wrote: >> | Incidentally, JC's problem could easily be dealt with within the current >> | abc definition by means of global accidentals. If programs offered the >> | option to add these to the key signature rather than scattering them >>through >> | the music as accidentals you cou

[abcusers] Modes

2000-10-15 Thread Bryancreer
Frank Nordberg says - > Sometimes I think that the main difference between Open Source > and commercial programs is that the commercial program developers are > *more* responsive to the wishes and needs of the users. Oh I don't know. This whole thing rather reminds me of a parody of a Microsof

[abcusers] Modes

2000-10-15 Thread Bryancreer
Laurie Grifiths says - > History: There used to be an ABC developers list, only. Then there was a > users list as well, then development issues started getting discussed on the > users list and a consensus seemed to develop that users were interested > enough in what went on that everything wa

Re: [abcusers] Modes (was O'Neill errors)

2000-10-15 Thread Frank Nordberg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Phil Taylor writes: > | Bryan Creer wrote: > | ... > | > | ... You haven't > | managed to convince any of the developers except for John Chambers > | who is only partially convinced because of his interest in Klezmer and > | other such music which use