Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Fwd: figure role backgrounds

2016-09-22 Thread Rich Schwerdtfeger
Ok. Thank you Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 22, 2016, at 1:34 PM, James Teh wrote: > > Getting back to the figure role... > > > In discussing this, I had actually forgotten that Firefox (and Chrome) > already maps the HTML figure tag to role grouping with

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Fwd: figure role backgrounds

2016-09-16 Thread Rich Schwerdtfeger
Then give it a role but don't take a week of people's time arguing over it. We have harder problems to work on. Rich Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 16, 2016, at 8:00 PM, James Teh wrote: > > IMO, xml-roles is a really horrible hack. An object attribute makes sense for >

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Fwd: figure role backgrounds

2016-09-16 Thread James Teh
IMO, xml-roles is a really horrible hack. An object attribute makes sense for things like landmarks because a landmark is more like an attribute of the element, rather than how it behaves/what it is. I argued a long time ago that landmark should have been a specific "landmark" attribute, but

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Fwd: figure role backgrounds

2016-09-15 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Steve Faulkner wrote: > Provision of a figure role in Acc APIs is not duplicating anything in HTML. > It is about providing a cross technology identification of a [feature] that > does not currently have a specific definition. Why is

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Fwd: figure role backgrounds

2016-09-15 Thread Steve Faulkner
> > I'm pretty sure Mozilla isn't interested in duplicating > semantics already implemented for HTML in SVG Provision of a figure role in Acc APIs is not duplicating anything in HTML. It is about providing a cross technology identification of a feataure that does not currently have a specific

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Fwd: figure role backgrounds

2016-09-15 Thread Steve Faulkner
On 15 September 2016 at 16:39, Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote: > I don't see any advantages to adding a new IA2 role. The other platforms > are not doing it either. Apologies, I got lost in the discussion, Firefox already exposes it as an object xml-roles:figure which is

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Fwd: figure role backgrounds

2016-09-15 Thread Marcos Caceres
On September 15, 2016 at 2:10:09 PM, Rich Schwerdtfeger (richsch...@gmail.com) wrote: > Alex, both Doug and Anna have expressed to you the opinion of the SVG working > group to not > have those elements in SVG. At this point the discussion on adding or using > them is not > productive. With all

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Fwd: figure role backgrounds

2016-09-15 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
I don't see any advantages to adding a new IA2 role. The other platforms are not doing it either.   This is the current mapping we have in the core-aam: https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/core-aam/core-aam.html#role-map-figure   Rich   Rich Schwerdtfeger     - Original message -From: Steve

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Fwd: figure role backgrounds

2016-09-15 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
Currently, maps to the ARIA role="figure" accessibility mapping per the HTML-AAM. Applying the ARIA role to and SVG element, such as a , will do the same thing as .   I was in the process of working with Freedom Scientific and NVDA on their implementations when we got held up over the use of in

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Fwd: figure role backgrounds

2016-09-14 Thread Rich Schwerdtfeger
> > [1] https://www.w3.org/TR/SVG2/embedded.html > > >> >> Rich >> >> >> >> Rich Schwerdtfeger >> >> >> - Original message - >> From: Alexander Surkov <surkov.alexan...@gmail.com> >> Sent

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Fwd: figure role backgrounds

2016-09-14 Thread Alexander Surkov
; Rich Schwerdtfeger > > > > - Original message - > From: Alexander Surkov <surkov.alexan...@gmail.com> > Sent by: accessibility-ia2-boun...@lists.linuxfoundation.org > To: Rich Schwerdtfeger <richsch...@gmail.com> > Cc: IA2 List <accessibility-...@lists.linux-foundation

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Fwd: figure role backgrounds

2016-09-14 Thread Alexander Surkov
Hi, Rich. There are still concerns left. Here's my email [1]. Alex. [1] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-aria/2016Sep/0051.html On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 10:22 AM, Rich Schwerdtfeger wrote: > Alex, > > Are you satisfied with Amelia’s more detailed response and

[Accessibility-ia2] Fwd: figure role backgrounds

2016-09-14 Thread Rich Schwerdtfeger
Alex, Are you satisfied with Amelia’s more detailed response and why it is needed in SVG? Figures are used a lot in SVG drawings. If so, I would like your approval on the figure mapping. I am trying hard to get ARIA 1.1 wrapped up so that we can focus efforts on helping you and others on