[AI] Issue in MS excel

2023-01-14 Thread Ritesh Agarwal
Hi All!

I am facing a strange problem in MS Excel 2016 with JAWS 2021. Actually, I
am unable to trace my cursor inside a cell. For example, if I supposedly
write "My mame is" and want to correct the spelling "mame", I am unable to
do that because after I press F2 Jaws is speaking the entire sentence "My
mame is" after I press either left or right arrow.

Any suggestion to tackle this issue will be highly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Regards
Ritesh Agarwal
M: +91 9101166168

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Re: [AI] I can see but cannot drive, what good is synthetic vision?

2023-01-14 Thread Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan)

Hi Pranav,

You wrote:
... You can then do pattern recognition in your head and determine what 
you are looking at. The electrical signals that your brain gets when 
hearing these sounds are the same as those it gets when receiving light 
from organic eyes. >


Wow, this sounds fantastically interesting! I wonder if a person born 
totally blind can benefit from such a concept though. If a person could see 
before, then they can be trained to associate the sound frequencies with the 
visual ones they have experienced in the past, and perhaps this way they can 
develop substitution of sight by sound. But what do you think about those of 
us like myself, who has never seen, not even colours, not even light and 
dark, from birth? Perhaps the best we can hope for with this concept is to 
make our own meaning association, purely based on things we already know in 
our world such as the crude association of objects by touch. I would think 
then we would have to learn how to illiminate all the other visual stimulae 
represented by sound, that we cannot relate to because they don't make sense 
in our world, such as colours and 3-D imaging Etc, which we only know as 
concepts rather than by conscious experience (in Sanskrit we refer to the 
difference between Jnana (theoretical knowledge) and vijnana (realization by 
experience).


Interesting discussion, thanks for bringing this up. Looking forward to more 
of the same.


Kind regards,
Yamuna Jivana Dasa
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From: Pranav Lal

Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2023 11:17 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: RE: [AI] I can see but cannot drive, what good is synthetic vision?

Anirudh, all,

I was talking about the vOICe. It is a program that converts live images to 
sound. You can then do pattern recognition in your head and determine what 
you are looking at.


The electrical signals that your brain gets when hearing these sounds are 
the same as those it gets when receiving light from organic eyes.


The vOICe works on the principal of sensory substitution where it  replaces 
sound  with vision.


There is no artificial intelligence involved.

Programs such as envision, supersense etc., use artificial intelligence to 
do things like object recognition.


You should think of artificial intelligence as a way for a computer  to 
solve a problem and not as the adding of human like intelligence.

Pranav


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Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 3:57 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] I can see but cannot drive, what good is synthetic vision?

yes.
this is the article I was talking about.
found it.
thanks.
SAS is another addition which I did not know.

On 6/1/22, Pranav Lal  wrote:

Hi Asif,

In that case, the vOICe can be one of the tools you use. The only way
to determine this is to try.

Pranav

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Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2022 1:48 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] I can see but cannot drive, what good is synthetic
vision?

Hi Pranav,
I genrally run on road in and around my neighbourhood.
It is flat surface largely.
Thanks and regards.
Asif


On 5/31/22, Pranav Lal  wrote:

Hi Asif,

Yes, the vOICe can certainly be one tool that you can use to run long
distance independently. What kind of terrain are you running on? We
will need to determine what kind of color contrast you have in your
environment so that we can identify visual landmarks.

Get the app on to your phone and try. There is a web version that
works on iPhones as well.

Pranav

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RE: [AI] Artificial inteligents techknology glasses etc.

2023-01-14 Thread Pranav Lal
Dear Mamta,

You get the orcam from the following dealer.
https://www.indiamart.com/delhi-hospital-supply/aboutus.html
Their number is 08048372640 Ext 742
Also see the following link for more contact information.
https://www.smta.in/members-directory/name/delhi-hospital-supply-pvt-ltd/

If you want to read large books, then go either for the keebo device or a 
regular flatbed scanner.

Supersense is an app available on both ios and android. It is similar to 
envision.

I do not know from where to get the tracking watch.  A colleague had told me 
about them. I cannot say if the app is accessible. Given what I know about gps, 
I suspect the watch will be accurate up till 10 meters. I doubt this will meet 
your need.
I believe those devices do work as regular watches too.

If your child is really young, think about using a child leash though that will 
not work in a cycling situation. 

At the moment, I do not have any implementable ideas about your cycling issue. 

Pranav
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From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf 
Of Mamta Tambe
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2023 1:01 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Artificial inteligents techknology glasses etc.

answers below sir, Please do read on sir.


On 13/01/2023, Pranav Lal  wrote:
> Mamta,
>
> I have zero idea about tracking your child. None of the solutions 
> using ai will track if a car is coming towards you. Use your ears for 
> that. I could give you a fancy idea where you bought a radar sensor, 
> plugged it into a laptop but then the problem with that is that it 
> would be a custom solution and you would need to point the sensor in 
> the right direction and custom build a solution. This is significant work.

pointing would also be a problem I face it with invission while reading as well

> You may be able to use  some watches that let you track children but 
> that assumes that your child is wearing the watch all the time and I 
> do not know if they work in such a small area. You would have an app 
> on your phone which would show the position of the child.

interesting sir, which watch are these? up to how much distences these watches 
can track? how much do they cost? is the app associated with it accessable to 
us on Android? or IOS?

any other function of these watches can be used for? or only tracking?

> Reading is one area where these devices can help. Use  apps like 
> envision and or supersense on your phone as a start.

I am a paid life member of invission I already use it on my phone.

The problem is for big 200 or 500 pages novel to read, and for hand written 
text / books. also the pointing the camera to the correct place as other wise 
mostly I here (no text found)

what is super sence?

from where can I get more details about it?

is it also a app is it paid or can be used? is it available on android? or on 
IOS?


> If you have the money, go for the orcam for reading. This is a tiny 
> device that is mounted on a pair of ordinary glasses. It helps with 
> reading. Before that though, try the super sense app or the envision 
> app on your phone. That may meet your needs.

What is this orcam? where can I get more details about it? how much does cost? 
from where can this be perchased?

will it solve my reading problems of big novels hand written text and such 
others etc.

who has manifactured it can you give website? can go and check get more details 
/ contact details etc. sir.


> If vehicles are a huge problem, then you may consider moving to a 
> gated community. I realize that this is a radical solution. The parks 
> in most communities are vehicle free areas.

parks means garden in the building so its like this sir that outside the garden 
where kids want to do cycleling  bikes / cars keep coming as its a residential 
area so thats why was thinking of something which could be of help to look see 
and solve this problem. I though know that its difficult and next to impossible.

> I want to also say, that training your child to avoid vehicles and to 
> increase situational awareness are better ideas but then I am not a 
> parent and have no idea if this is possible.

yes it is sir but for a child a bit elder. I am looking to help my younger one 
he is now just 0 years means 5 months old. so as he will want to go to play go 
out and things am trying to be prepare in advance.

so was looking for if there would be any such solutions available.

if anyone could think of anything to solve my queries or problems please do 
write back to me on my e mail id which is:

mamtatamb...@gmail.com

Thanks a lot sir.

> Pranav
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RE: [AI] Determinning why I am stuck at the first page of applying for a udit card

2023-01-14 Thread Pranav Lal
Hi,

I kept the images under 200KB. 

How do you get around this problem?

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From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf 
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Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 4:40 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Determinning why I am stuck at the first page of applying for 
a udit card

One challenge could size of the document needed in the particular format and 
another bug is that it sometimes  gets stuck up due to screen reader.


On 1/8/23, Pranav Lal  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am trying to apply for a udit card. I am stuck on the first page. I 
> have uploaded the relevant images and have filled the relevant information.
>
> There is a menu item labelled next. When I activate it, I am returned 
> to the same page. How do I determine why I am stuck?
>
> I am using nvda 2022.4 on windows Version 22H2 (OS Build 22621.963) 
> Google chrome Version 108.0.5359.125 (Official Build) (64-bit) Pranav
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RE: [AI] I can see but cannot drive, what good is synthetic vision?

2023-01-14 Thread Pranav Lal
Anirudh, all,

I was talking about the vOICe. It is a program that converts live images to 
sound. You can then do pattern recognition in your head and determine what you 
are looking at. 

The electrical signals that your brain gets when hearing these sounds are the 
same as those it gets when receiving light from organic eyes. 

The vOICe works on the principal of sensory substitution where it  replaces 
sound  with vision.

There is no artificial intelligence involved. 

Programs such as envision, supersense etc., use artificial intelligence to do 
things like object recognition.

You should think of artificial intelligence as a way for a computer  to solve a 
problem and not as the adding of human like intelligence.
Pranav
 

-Original Message-
From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf 
Of anirudh rao
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 3:57 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] I can see but cannot drive, what good is synthetic vision?

yes.
this is the article I was talking about.
found it.
thanks.
SAS is another addition which I did not know.

On 6/1/22, Pranav Lal  wrote:
> Hi Asif,
>
> In that case, the vOICe can be one of the tools you use. The only way 
> to determine this is to try.
>
> Pranav
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Mohammed Asif Iqbal (IN)' via AccessIndia 
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2022 1:48 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] I can see but cannot drive, what good is synthetic 
> vision?
>
> Hi Pranav,
> I genrally run on road in and around my neighbourhood.
> It is flat surface largely.
> Thanks and regards.
> Asif
>
>
> On 5/31/22, Pranav Lal  wrote:
>> Hi Asif,
>>
>> Yes, the vOICe can certainly be one tool that you can use to run long 
>> distance independently. What kind of terrain are you running on? We 
>> will need to determine what kind of color contrast you have in your 
>> environment so that we can identify visual landmarks.
>>
>> Get the app on to your phone and try. There is a web version that 
>> works on iPhones as well.
>>
>> Pranav
>>
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