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Also, since we're talking about GPOs, while I haven't managed a
Mac in several years, I don't remember them offering this
functionality, so I'm not even sure how that's relevant
--
I love the smell of red herrings in the morning - anonymous
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And it's
, Deji
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Did I actually say that clueless folks are writing you checks? Or
are you projecting? That those who write you checks but
don't/can't/won't do things
: RE: [ActiveDir] Vista GPO
Am I the only one who remembers the teeth-pulling necessary to get
people to make the move to XP? Or to Win2K? Both of which were a
fairly big leap. XP was seen as eye candy with very little benefit over
Win2K (but with licensing and deployment and compatibility
Win23 AD
Machines: ThinkCentre 8215.
Vista Enterprise: So far my 4 test machines in my lab have been loosing
the CD/DVD Rom drives. Have to delete registry and restart machines each
time.
This is also occurring at home. Also half of my network printers do not
work. No Vista print drivers on
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Am I the only one who remembers the teeth-pulling necessary to get
people to make the move to XP? Or to Win2K? Both of which were a
fairly big leap. XP
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Depends on what you define as compelling.
I killed off Win2k way before XP sp2 was released.
Todd Hofert
in the morning - anonymous
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Depends on what you define
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(as a bystander here .. I personally like the point/counterpoints.. just
sometimes we need to realize that we lose
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(as a bystander here .. I personally like the point/counterpoints.. just
sometimes we need to realize
Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
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(as a bystander here .. I personally like the point/counterpoints.. just
sometimes we need to realize that we lose ...what? About 60% of
communication via email
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I don't know of anyone officially moving to Vista any time soon
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With Vista ADMX format, is it a better implementation to have central
ADMX storage on the DCs
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia
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Vista introduces a new Admin Template format called ADMX. These are
found on Vista in C
: Friday, December 15, 2006 9:49 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
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You may recall, there was a similar case when XP came out too - if
memory serves, you had to manage XP GPO settings from an XP box - if
you
opened them on Win2K, there were problems (I
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You may recall, there was a similar case when XP came out too - if
memory serves, you had to manage XP GPO settings from
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You may recall, there was a similar case when XP came out too - if
memory serves, you had to manage XP GPO settings from an XP box - if you
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This is actually a little different because if you view a GPO that was
created with Vista, using XP or 2003, none of the ADMX
: Friday, December 15, 2006 9:04 AM
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Sorry, I understand it's different, what I meant was merely that we had
some growing pains like this when XP first came out. Our practice then
became to use only XP desktops for GP management. I
/2006 9:18 AM
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I hear you Rich. I had a long discussion with someone on the GP newsgroups
who thought that the fact that XP and 2003 couldn't read Vista GP settings
was an abomination and a scandal of the highest order and that MS
So Microsoft should encourage their bad practices?
Laura
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People don't seem to have
others think.
Darren
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People don't seem to have a problem with that concept when it comes to
game
: [ActiveDir] Vista GPO
So Microsoft should encourage their bad practices?
Laura
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People don't seem
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People don't seem to have a problem with that concept when it
comes to game consoles
] On Behalf Of Akomolafe, Deji
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 11:39 AM
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People don't seem to have a problem with that concept when it comes
to game consoles :)
Bad analogy. Go stand in the corner, no wii for you :)
When people
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Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday?
-anon
From: Darren Mar-Elia
Sent: Fri 12/15/2006 10:21 AM
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Come on Deji-its exactly
those of my employer and for all I
know, may even pi$$ off my employer. :-)
Laura
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I wouldn't put
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-5.75, -3.23
Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday?
-anon
From: Tim Vander Kooi
Sent: Fri 12/15/2006 10:53 AM
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They won't do
omolafe.com- we know IT
-5.75, -3.23
Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were
worried about Yesterday? -anon
From: Darren Mar-Elia
Sent: Fri 12/15/2006 10:21 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
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Come
on Dejiits exactl
@mail.activedir.org
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And it's the clueful customers who (rightly) become angry when something
in a product that exists purely for backward compatibility opens a
security hole. Now, I'm not saying that all security holes are due to
backward compatibility, and I'm
into misinformed people? Absolutely. Clueless? Not really. Well,
not among my customers, anyway. :-)
Laura
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about Yesterday?
-anon
From: Laura A. Robinson
Sent: Fri 12/15/2006 11:26 AM
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And it's the clueful customers who (rightly) become angry when something in a
product that exists purely for backward compatibility opens a security
and lack of exposure to sophisticated IT environments.
But I won't.
:-)
Laura
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Tim
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Please respond to
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
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Subject
RE: [ActiveDir] Vista GPO
They won?t do it if Microsoft makes it so they CAN?T do it. I feel
Microsoft should be applauded for forcing admins to do their jobs
that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday?
-anon
From: Laura A. Robinson
Sent: Fri 12/15/2006 12:50 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
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BTW, I would disagree with your assessment of Microsoft's customer base. I work
in Microsoft's largest district
15, 2006 1:46 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Vista GPO
Tim,
it is the height of professional arrogance to think that anyone who
don't/can't/won't do things the way you think they should be done (best
practices) are lazy and uninformed.
I know you said
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Vista GPO
Well said. But while you’re at it, could you let someone know that I very
upset that I can’t manage my Vista GPOs from my Windows ME PC.
Thanks much. ;-)
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worried about Yesterday?
-anon
From: Laura A. Robinson
Sent: Fri 12/15/2006 1:12 PM
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Since many of us are in the habit of expressing various opinions, perhaps we
should refrain from characterizing those with which we disagree
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Since many of us are in the habit of expressing various opinions, perhaps we
should refrain from characterizing those with which
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Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 3:54 PM
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Know your audience. Know your customers. Know your consumers.
I can't speak to whether or not you pi
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Did I actually say that clueless folks are writing you checks? Or are you
projecting? That those who write you checks but don't/can't/won't do things
the right way (according to you) are clueless, and you don't like their
checks?
Sincerely
before it was released points to that.
Tim
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I would say you do server things on the server with your admin
Excellent. I can't wait.
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Robinson
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We're releasing the Vista management tools for Windows ME at the same
time
, December 15, 2006 4:44 PM
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*Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir] Vista GPO
Did I actually say that clueless folks are writing you checks? Or
are you projecting? That those who write you checks but
don't/can't/won't do things the right way (according
What do you mean Za? I'm not familiar with any GPO plug-in for Win2K3,
unless you mean the LDIF files that are in sources\adprep on the Vista CD?
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: [ActiveDir] Vista GPO
What do you mean Za? I'm not familiar with any GPO plug-in for Win2K3,
unless you mean the LDIF files that are in sources\adprep on the Vista
CD?
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, 2006 10:34 AM
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What do you mean Za? I'm not familiar with any GPO plug-in for Win2K3,
unless you mean the LDIF files that are in sources\adprep on the Vista
CD?
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Sent: 12/14/2006 1:18 PM
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Sorry. Exactly what Ben wrote.
Thanks..
-Z.V.
WATSON, BEN wrote:
Maybe he may be referring to the location of any possible new ADM files
included with Vista.
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Sorry. Exactly what Ben wrote.
Thanks..
-Z.V.
WATSON, BEN wrote:
Maybe he may be referring to the location of any possible new ADM files
included with Vista.
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The converter (ADMX Migrator) is only meant to convert ADMs into ADMXs-- not
the other way around unfortunately.
Darren
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Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 5:13 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Vista GPO
Vista introduces a new Admin Template format called ADMX. These are
found on Vista in C:\windows\policydefinitions and, unfortuately cannot
be consumed by earlier versions of Windows
in each GPO.
So, good and bad--mostly good I think for most shops.
Darren
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With Vista
More detail information from Microsoft: Managing Group Policy ADMX Files Step
by Step Guide.doc
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