Re: [address-policy-wg] Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations

2015-04-23 Thread Vladimir Andreev
I am just speaking about how easy requirement about making assignments can be passed. 23.04.2015, 17:19, Matyas Koszik kos...@atw.hu: On Thu, 23 Apr 2015, Opteamax GmbH wrote:  On 23.04.2015 15:39, Vladimir Andreev wrote:  If we suppose having multiple /22 per LIR is abusing then main

Re: [address-policy-wg] Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations

2015-04-23 Thread Vladimir Andreev
and A (for now) is 97. Thus totally allocated T2 = 97 * 128 / 4 = 6208 blocks from last /8. Final digits are the same. 23.04.2015, 14:20, Vladimir Andreev vladi...@quick-soft.net: Hi, All! I decided to express my opinion regarding this proposal. As appears from the proposal summary

Re: [address-policy-wg] Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations

2015-04-23 Thread Vladimir Andreev
policies. 23.04.2015, 16:49, Opteamax GmbH r...@opteamax.de:  On 23.04.2015 15:39, Vladimir Andreev wrote:   If we suppose having multiple /22 per LIR is abusing then main   abuser is RIPE NCC since RIPE NCC makes transfers and LIR merging   allowing to receive second /22 etc.  So you agree my

Re: [address-policy-wg] Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations

2015-04-23 Thread Vladimir Andreev
allocation or you didn't make assignments. 23.04.2015, 17:08, Jens Ott - Opteamax GmbH j...@opteamax.de: On 23.04.2015 14:45, Vladimir Andreev wrote:  The LIR must confirm it will make assignment(s) from the  allocation.  Please point me where in quoted text you see any prohibition to  open

Re: [address-policy-wg] Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations

2015-04-25 Thread Vladimir Andreev
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Re: [address-policy-wg] Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations

2015-04-25 Thread Vladimir Andreev
I can't remain indifferent to such interesting proposal :) So I have to continue (no matter has it formal impact or not). 25.04.2015, 16:28, Gert Doering g...@space.net: Hi, On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 04:22:15PM +0300, Vladimir Andreev wrote:  I think you mix preventing making profit and assure

Re: [address-policy-wg] Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations

2015-04-25 Thread Vladimir Andreev
Agree. 25.04.2015, 16:52, "Infinity Telecom SRL" i...@infinitytelecom.ro:Hello Gert, We can stop this discuss, yes. But not the RIPE NCC will be the winner here, Elvis and his guys (sellers) should start this proposal: - returned not used space. - put a tax on each IP,  LIR with no used IP,  

Re: [address-policy-wg] Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations

2015-04-23 Thread Vladimir Andreev
delight that other can't do their business) to some group of members (possible little). If such proposal HAS exact reasoning — OK, let'e discuss! 23.04.2015, 15:50, Mikael Abrahamsson swm...@swm.pp.se: On Thu, 23 Apr 2015, Vladimir Andreev wrote:  On application for IPv4 resources LIRs will receive

Re: [address-policy-wg] Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations

2015-04-23 Thread Vladimir Andreev
As variant: 1. I receive /22 2. I create 2 x inetnum with type ASSIGNED PA 3. I announced it for about 1 month 4. I sell it Such way I fully correspond to 5.* statements. 23.04.2015, 15:54, Opteamax GmbH r...@opteamax.de: On 23.04.2015 14:50, Vladimir Andreev wrote:  3.0 Goals of the Internet

Re: [address-policy-wg] Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations

2015-04-23 Thread Vladimir Andreev
I answered to this question in another thread. I can announce my /22 for some time. And after that sell it 23.04.2015, 15:59, Opteamax GmbH r...@opteamax.de: On 23.04.2015 14:45, Vladimir Andreev wrote:  The LIR must confirm it will make assignment(s) from the  allocation.  Please point me

Re: [address-policy-wg] Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations

2015-04-23 Thread Vladimir Andreev
OK. Let's it's welcome side effect. Please answer me the following question: What reasoning (not purpose) has current proposal? 23.04.2015, 15:57, Gert Doering g...@space.net: Hi, On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 03:45:56PM +0300, Vladimir Andreev wrote:  On application for IPv4 resources LIRs

Re: [address-policy-wg] Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations

2015-04-23 Thread Vladimir Andreev
97691059  Email: j...@opteamax.de  HRB: 23144, Amtsgericht Montabaur  Umsatzsteuer-ID.: DE264133989 --  With best regards, Vladimir Andreev General director, QuickSoft LLC Tel: +7 903 1750503

Re: [address-policy-wg] Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations

2015-04-23 Thread Vladimir Andreev
, 15:38, Gert Doering g...@space.net: Hi, On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 03:22:34PM +0300, Vladimir Andreev wrote:  But the proposal doesn't forbid to open many LIRs and then merge them together. Indeed, because that would prevent legitimate business processes. But what it does is making the open

Re: [address-policy-wg] Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations

2015-04-23 Thread Vladimir Andreev
at 03:41:10PM +0300, Vladimir Andreev wrote:  And why receiving /22's for own company is legitimate and for selling is not? *one* /22 per LIR is the last-/8 policy  not open lots of LIRs, so a single LIR can have multiple /22s in the end,   and circumvent the one-LIR-one-/22-allocated

Re: [address-policy-wg] Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations

2015-04-23 Thread Vladimir Andreev
3.0 Goals of the Internet Registry System can be treated by a lot of ways. I (personally) doesn't find any prohibition in st. 3.0 to have many /22 per LIR. 23.04.2015, 15:39, Opteamax GmbH r...@opteamax.de: On 23.04.2015 14:31, Vladimir Andreev wrote:   openig a bunch of LIR only

Re: [address-policy-wg] Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations

2015-04-23 Thread Vladimir Andreev
abuse any policies. If we suppose having multiple /22 per LIR is abusing then main abuser is RIPE NCC since RIPE NCC makes transfers and LIR merging allowing to receive second /22 etc. 23.04.2015, 16:35, Gert Doering g...@space.net: Hi, On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 04:22:51PM +0300, Vladimir Andreev

Re: [address-policy-wg] Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations

2015-04-23 Thread Vladimir Andreev
that want to sell their /22's. 23.04.2015, 16:12, Gert Doering g...@space.net:  Hi,  On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 04:05:46PM +0300, Vladimir Andreev wrote:   OK. Let's it's welcome side effect.   Please answer me the following question:   What reasoning (not purpose) has current proposal?  The RIPE

Re: [address-policy-wg] Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations

2015-04-23 Thread Vladimir Andreev
7808806  cont...@infinitytelecom.ro --  With best regards, Vladimir Andreev General director, QuickSoft LLC Tel: +7 903 1750503

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-01 Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published

2015-06-09 Thread Vladimir Andreev
this as a viable business model.. Regards, Erik Bais --  With best regards, Vladimir Andreev General director, QuickSoft LLC Tel: +7 903 1750503

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-01 Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations)

2015-06-09 Thread Vladimir Andreev
of a policy, and they shouldn't be subject to possible changes of the system? The price for the /22's he's getting only doubled, so I believe that's still OK. Bad Luck. Regards, Garry --  With best regards, Vladimir Andreev General director, QuickSoft LLC Tel: +7 903 1750503

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-01 Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations)

2015-06-09 Thread Vladimir Andreev
You spoke that some russians make profit and don't speak about other nations. Table of TOP transfers from your last letter shows it clearly. 09.06.2015, 19:33, Ciprian Nica off...@ip-broker.uk:    On 6/9/2015 7:19 PM, Vladimir Andreev wrote: help the last /8 pool become even larger

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-01 Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations)

2015-06-09 Thread Vladimir Andreev
 to but obviously I appologize to all other russians. It's just your  company and mr. Bulgakov who have abused in my opinion of the last /8.  But only because of 2 rotten apples I would not throw them all away.  Ciprian  On 6/9/2015 7:43 PM, Vladimir Andreev wrote:   You spoke that some russians make

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-01 Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations)

2015-06-09 Thread Vladimir Andreev
have nothing to worry about right now. Yes? 09.06.2015, 18:58, Gert Doering g...@space.net: Hi, On Tue, Jun 09, 2015 at 06:51:01PM +0300, Vladimir Andreev wrote:    The reason for this policy is to make sure that the community keeps to    the *intent* of the last /8 policy: ensure

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-01 Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations)

2015-06-09 Thread Vladimir Andreev
.: DE813185279 --  With best regards, Vladimir Andreev General director, QuickSoft LLC Tel: +7 903 1750503

Re: [address-policy-wg] IPv6 PI assignment policy

2015-06-19 Thread Vladimir Andreev
One fix: Not inetnum and route but inet6num and route6. 19.06.2015, 15:23, Vladimir Andreev vladi...@quick-soft.net: Another way: 1) Create inetnum with type ALLOCATED-BY-LIR inside of inetnum allocated by RIPE NCC to LIR; 2) Create route object with the same IP prefix as in step 1

Re: [address-policy-wg] IPv6 PI assignment policy

2015-06-19 Thread Vladimir Andreev
on such a proposal? Regards Thomas Drewermann Freifunk Rheinland e.V. --  With best regards, Vladimir Andreev General director, QuickSoft LLC Tel: +7 903 1750503

Re: [address-policy-wg] IPv6 PI assignment policy

2015-06-19 Thread Vladimir Andreev
inetnum. 19.06.2015, 15:15, Christopher Kunz chrisl...@de-punkt.de:  Am 19.06.15 um 14:06 schrieb Vladimir Andreev:   Hello!   Why wouldn't they become a LIR?   Small Hotspot providers and especially Freifunk communities typically   can not afford a LIR Membership to be independent. In my opinion

Re: [address-policy-wg] [policy-announce] 2015-01 Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations)

2015-06-11 Thread Vladimir Andreev
PERSONAL ATTACK! HELP! :):):) 11.06.2015, 14:31, "Jan Ingvoldstad" frett...@gmail.com:On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Vladimir Andreev vladi...@quick-soft.net wrote: As mentioned many times during debates AP WG has no relations to financial questions. In such case WHY does current pol

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-01 Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published

2015-06-10 Thread Vladimir Andreev
Hi! According to PDP it's possibly to change any proposal's state to "Discussion" or "Withdraw" after "Review" phase. 10.06.2015, 18:59, "Jan Ingvoldstad" frett...@gmail.com:On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 3:38 PM, r...@ntx.ru r...@ntx.ru wrote:Greetings again, Sorry that I joined this discussion with

Re: [address-policy-wg] A failure to communicate

2015-07-01 Thread Vladimir Andreev
regards, Vladimir Andreev General director, QuickSoft LLC Tel: +7 903 1750503

Re: [address-policy-wg] A failure to communicate

2015-07-01 Thread Vladimir Andreev
Ha-ha. Short version: you're in a hole, so stop digging. As I see the circus must go on. Just to laugh at... 01.07.2015, 13:09, Jim Reid j...@rfc1035.com: On 1 Jul 2015, at 10:39, Vladimir Andreev vladi...@quick-soft.net wrote:  So do we have real consensus? For this policy proposal, I

Re: [address-policy-wg] A failure to communicate

2015-07-01 Thread Vladimir Andreev
and/or cancels 2015-01. --  With best regards, Vladimir Andreev General director, QuickSoft LLC Tel: +7 903 1750503

Re: [address-policy-wg] We need IPv4 transfers

2015-06-29 Thread Vladimir Andreev
Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen)   Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279 --  With best regards, Vladimir Andreev General director, QuickSoft LLC Tel: +7 903 1750503

Re: [address-policy-wg] We need IPv4 transfers

2015-06-29 Thread Vladimir Andreev
I mean detailed analysis of pros and cons. For example, why wasn't it separately mentioned about MA as a BIG hole? 29.06.2015, 22:50, Gert Doering g...@space.net:  Hi,  On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 10:47:19PM +0300, Vladimir Andreev wrote:   Why not to write down and weigh all the arguments

Re: [address-policy-wg] We need IPv4 transfers

2015-06-29 Thread Vladimir Andreev
(0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279 --  With best regards, Vladimir Andreev General director, QuickSoft LLC Tel: +7 903 1750503

Re: [address-policy-wg] We need IPv4 transfers

2015-06-29 Thread Vladimir Andreev
: Sebastian v. Bomhard  Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann  D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen)  Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279 --  With best regards, Vladimir Andreev General director, QuickSoft LLC Tel: +7 903 1750503

Re: [address-policy-wg] Opposing policy 2015-01

2015-07-11 Thread Vladimir Andreev
, through your own inaction.  It's best that those who see a problem, are the ones to attempt addressing it.  --  Jan -- Kind regards, Petr Umelov --  With best regards, Vladimir Andreev General director, QuickSoft LLC Tel: +7 903 1750503