For tape label operations I think you're out of luck as that's just the way
TSM does things.. For other operations you probably want to increase the
Mount Retention setting on your manual tape's device class.. (i.e. upd
devc devcname mountr=)
Do a help upd devc for more information on that
1. The lowest (in general) rec value I recommend is 60 -- means at least
60% of the volume is reclaim-able.
Your rec=20 and rec=10 are way too low! Some sites (to get best bang for
buck, in the past) did stair-step every couple hours from rec=95, then
rec=90, etc. until reaching end of their
Get the redbook Getting Started with Tivoli Storage Manager: Implementation
Guide
On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Rick W wrote:
Hey all,
I am a bit new to the list and am in a position to implement TSM 4.2 and
would like to get some good reading material so that I can better
understand TSM. Would
Hi ,
we backup from snapshosts on our Netapp-filer, therefore I do not see any
errors in dsmsched.log.
But i have the possibility to see at the filer console what files are locked
and what kind of lock is made.
There are about 3000 Outlookusers in our environment, but we have only about
400
In a LAN Free environment the tape mount is operated by the TSM Server; as
you can see on the following document form the:
Managed System for SAN Storage Agent User's Guide
LAN-free Client Data Backup Scenario
The following outlines a typical backup scenario for a TSM client that
uses SAN
Hi, we had same problem using default value of 90 days for password
expiration.
You have to change it to 0 or , and then go to each client and start a
manual session to take on the changed value !
Regards,
René LAMBELET
NESTEC SA
GLOBE -
Yes, we have this problem with all (six) of our 3581 autoloaders, and have
had it since we bought them 18 months ago.
The problem seems to be connected to certain LTO tapes, no matter if it's
IBM, Maxell or HP that made the tape. From a batch of 20 tapes I would say
that 2-4 tapes have this
Good morning.
I was hoping that someone could provide some information for me regarding
TDP for Domino and DBIID changes. Our environment is TSM 4.1.2.0 server
unning on OS/390 2.10 we are backing up Domino from an NT server. Could
someone provide me an example of a Domino data base compression
Hi,
I usually label bunch of tapes at once
and simply use them then fo a long time,
even if swapping them among different storage pools.
Do you have any special requirement which forces you to re-label
existing tapes,
or do you purchase tapes in very small amounts?
Juraj
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Hi everybody,
I know this is a subject that comes very often, and that various answers
were already give, but, after searching through the list archives, I am
still not totally sure of what I should do:
I have a TSM Server that does his backups not quite fast. First, I
thought of a
you do not need to install 4.2.1 to install 4.2.2 . am i wrong?
normally you should be able to upgrade to 4.2.2 just after the 4.2 insallation
regards
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Yes, but how? There is only one scratch pool and tapes are allocated
from
this scratch pool as needed when the primary tapepool is backed up to
the
offsite tapeback. Is there a way to define 2 scratch pools and
allocate
primary tapes from the Kscratch pool and offsite from the Jscratch
pool?
i found it, fixed in 4.2.2.2 APAR PQ61001, thank you
kind regards
joachim
Dear *SM admins
need your help!
environment: z/os 1.2
tsm 4.2.2.0
We went from 4.2.1.9 to 4.2.2.0, DRM is not aktiv, i can't audit 7000
Volumes
when migration backuppool from disk to cart run then:
ANR0198E Removal
On Wed, 12 Jun 2002 17:41:27 -0400
Paul Zarnowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If there are other MacOS X sites out there, I'd suggest chiming in to IBM
and letting them know what you think (again).
..Paul
Hi,
are you serious? :) man, I tried to report a bug on the Mac X scheduler, all
I got
Paul,
When you say compact it, what exactly do you mean?
Regards, Joe
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Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 10:21 PM
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Subject: PST Files and Backup Times Revisited
This discussion has been circling for the
There is a new server, client, storage agent.. 5.1.1.
Be fully aware that the new 5.1 client does not handle mixed-case
filenames properly. I would recommend immediately installing
the 5.1.1 client which does handle mixed-case file names.
It will work with the 5.1 server and storage agent.
Tom
Check your activity log during the time period that the error occurs. You
may find that there were not enough tape drives available for what you were
requesting in the backup or possibly there was an I/O error on the tape.
Brenda
Borja
Borrego
Hi Eliza ,
We have 4 onsite pools and 2 copypools.I have defined our K tapes to all onsite pools
as private .J
tapes are still scratch.
TSM use only K types for onsite operations , copy storage pools operations use only
scrach volumes
and they all are J tapes.
Eliza Lau
You're absolutely correct... I that just occurred to me as I was going to test.
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Yeah, but the problem is the PST files are not on the
Hi TSMers,
is there any reason why you can't jump from TSM V3.7 to V5.1 therefore
bypassing V4.% server installation. I've checked the Tivoli web site but can't
find any clarification on there.
any help would be greatly appreciated.
many thanks,
Nick Rutherford
Or, instead of exporting and importing (and after upgrading), just restore
the database to the new server (after emptying all the disk storage pools
to tape), define the old library and new, (and new disk storage pools) then
migrate the tapes. (My experience is with AIX, also.) If you have
That won't work either. You would have to always run with Library
sharing. You could not just turn it on. With TSM Library Sharing the
Library Manager TSM Server keeps track of all the tapes as well so that
would also cause a problem since each TSM server would have its own set
of tapes until you
That property only applies if you are using the HSM client. It means that a
backup version must exist in a TSM backup storage pool before the file is
even eligible to be pushed out to an HSM storage pool due to x days of
non-use. (The reason for the property has to do with how you would recover
Hello *SMers.
Is there a SELECT statement that can show me the (total) size of all active
files?
I have
SELECT SUM(LOGICAL_MB) AS Data_In_MB, SUM(NUM_FILES) \
AS Num_of_files FROM OCCUPANCY
for showing the total size of all files, but how about the size of
active files only? It will give me an
We, meaning the Notes guys, had got things working with the Domino agent
recently. To backup the backups the nsf files were being backed up by the
regular baclient till we figured out if the TDP we configured was working
properly. On Monday we added an exclude to remove the nsf files from the
Do you mean the 5.1 client will have problems with mixed case files if
the server is not at 5.1?
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There is a new server, client, storage agent.. 5.1.1.
Be fully aware that the new 5.1 client does not handle mixed-case
filenames properly. I would recommend
Yup.
Delete volume copypool volume discard=yes
Backup storage primary pool copy pool
To my knowledge there is no 'preview' function that will tell you what
primary pool volumes will be used BEFORE deleting the copypool volume,
unlike the 'restore volume volname preview=yes'.
But this will do
Thanks for the info I'll download the 5.1.1 asap.
Gene
Fought,Tom
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16 or 32kB
Cordiali saluti
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We have 4 onsite pools and 2 copypools.I have defined our K tapes to
all
onsite pools as private .
mustafa,
Are you saying that you define a given K tape to more than one storage
pool? Or are you dividing you K tapes between your defined onsite
storage pools?
David
Hot Diggety! Miles Purdy was rumored to have written:
1) Is there any particular reason to set a max file size for a disk stgpool?
(Assuming a setup where disk stgpool will migrate to tape stgpool)
Generally yes, if you will be backing up a file larger than the stgpool. If you will
be
Yes, I am running reclamation daily. (Nice to see I am doing something right
:)
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Are you running expiration
In the folder list properties for that PST select advanced. That will give
you another selection dialog. That is where the compact button is.
Paul D. Seay, Jr.
Technical Specialist
Naptheon, INC
757-688-8180
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From: Wholey, Joseph (TGA\MLOL) [mailto:[EMAIL
IBM LTO is, objectively, the best performer in the field. the drives are
more robust, have much fewer mechanical or firmware problems and are, in
general, very reliable. the 3584 and 3583 are very solid, performing
libraries. it is not by chance that in the LTO market IBM is doing so well.
even
Zoltan,
I tried to pursue that problem for a while a couple of client releases ago,
and got nowhere with level1. Didn't have time to pursue it to level 2,
because it wasn't really doing us any harm.
We do successful bare-metal restores (about 2 a month) and find everything
is OK, even when we
Dear *SM admins
need your help!
environment: z/os 1.2
tsm 4.2.2.0
We went from 4.2.1.9 to 4.2.2.0, DRM is not aktiv, i can't audit 7000
Volumes
when migration backuppool from disk to cart run then:
ANR0198E Removal of extraneous database entries for volume L60496 failed.
ANRD
Anybody out there running the AIX version of the 4.2.2.4 server code. We
are experiencing conflict lock problems on 4.2.2.0 and we have been advised
to go to 4.2.2.4 server level. Has anybody seen any problems with this
level of code?
Robert Burton
Enterprise Storage Network Analyst
Royal
1) Is there any particular reason to set a max file size for a disk stgpool?
(Assuming a setup where disk stgpool will migrate to tape stgpool)
Generally yes, if you will be backing up a file larger than the stgpool. If you will
be backing up a file larger than the stgpool it may be more
If you are using a copy storage pool the data on copy storage pool
volumes is just a copy of the data on the primary pool volumes not a
mirror of each primary copy volume. In other words the backup data for
PrimVol1 (for example) will most likely be spread over many copy pool
volumes.
You can
Are you aware of the AUDIT Library command.
Generally, a tape gets in this state if it is mounted in a drive and
the TSM
Server task crashes. The reason is TSM does not know where the tape
is
anymore. I wish it did not work this way on the 3494 library though
because
the 3494 library just
NO! Remember that a copypool is a complete copy. So everything that is offsite is
onsite.
TSM does not need the offsite tapes to reclaim them!
But you are correct: You could send a tape out Monday, 10% used (90% percent
reclaimable). Reclaim it during the day (Monday), and ask for it back
1) Is there any particular reason to set a max file size for a disk stgpool?
(Assuming a setup where disk stgpool will migrate to tape stgpool)
The rationale for setting a max file size goes something like this:
Suppose you have mostly small files backing up, and just a few humongous
ones:
I just did a conversion of TSM server v4.1.3.0 on Win2000 to v4.2.2.3
and all seems well.
steps:
uninstall v4.1.3.0
install v4.2.1.0 from cd
install v4.2.2.3 from the ibm ftp site
Burak Demircan wrote:
you do not need to install 4.2.1 to install 4.2.2 . am i wrong?
normally you should be
We just installed the TDP for MS-SQL 2.2
On a restore thru the GUI the backups and archives for the previous
release were not visible. Is there some way to make these available to
the new version?
Also make sure that:
1. you are NOT using 'collocation' on your COPYPOOL.
2. check the 'Delay Period for Volume Reuse'
3. run expire inventory
4. Define two admin schedules to control reclamation. One to start, one to stop. But
set the 'stop' to 99%. I'd set the 'start' to at least 75% - ie. 4
I have virtually the same setup.
Answers:
1. I don't because I have big Oracle DB's to backup.
2. No need.
3. I started out with 18N2 in January. Started having some problems
mainly tape error left tape in drive. CE upgraded to 22UD over a month
ago - no problems since. (I have (8) LTO
Hi,
Sounds like this library is a badged quantum ATL P1000. We have 4 of those
here and have had similar problems. This library doesn't allocate a slot for
cleaning tapes. The only way round this problem is to checkout all volumes
the TSM Server knows about. Remove the volumes that are in the
You could just ask me some of these questions you know.
David N. Reiss
TSM Support Engineer
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From: Dan Foster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM 4.2/AIX setup
If any of your clients are doing compression, the values you get from
OCCUPANCY are irrelevant.
There is no place in TSM to query the original file size.
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From: Emil S. Hansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 9:37 AM
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Gill,
There is no reason to have separate dsm.opt files unless you're using a
different nodename for any of those backups. Right now the only dsm.opt
files you should have is one on the baclient directory for the B/A Client
backups and one on the domino directory for the TDP backups (archive,
This is the error we are getting when trying to restore using TDP for
oracle
tsm server win2k sp2 tsm version 4.1.5
tsm client 4.2.1.32
tdp for oracle 2.2
RMAN-08523: restoring datafile 2 to D:\ORACLE\ORADATA\AIMDB\RBS01.DBF
RMAN-08523: restoring datafile 5 to
Mustafa,
This sounds great. The state of Virginia thanks you. Do you run a daily
script that reads the pool of scratch tapes and select the K tapes to define
to the primary pools? It shouldn't be that difficult since my J tapes run
from 31 to 301200 and K tapes run from 301201.
Eliza
I have verified the dsm.opt files are correct, as it relates to the exclude
statement. Last night it backed up only 4 files so something is obviously
not set correctly but I'm not sure what it is at this point.
Geoff Gill
TSM Administrator
NT Systems Support Engineer
SAIC
E-Mail: [EMAIL
We had a complete installation of 5.1 server, 5.1 storage agent,
and 5.1 client. The mixed case problem occurred with this
configuration. If you read the 5.1.1 client README file, you
will see they corrected this problem.
So the mixed case problem occurs with the client AND server
at 5.1.
It is
Hello Again,
Before this thread gets away from me, let me say a few things.
1. From the email postings to this group it appears that the IBM LTO drive
is what most people use if they are using LTO. I understand that IBM makes
a fine product and it gives me warm and fuzzies if I had a chance
Thanks I'll make sure I get the 5.1.1 client.
Gene
Fought,Tom
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We, meaning the Notes guys, had got things working with the Domino agent
recently. To backup the backups the nsf files were being backed up by the
regular baclient till we figured out if the TDP we configured was working
properly. On Monday we added an exclude to remove the nsf files from the
We just installed the TDP for MS-SQL 2.2
On a restore thru the GUI the backups and archives for the previous
release were not visible. Is there some way to make these available to
the new version?
Larry,
Do you mean version 1? If so, please look at the section in
the README and User's
I don't think so. They changed a lot from previous version. Naming format
is different and now uses regular TSM versioning for files.
I think manual says can't restore earlier files. You would have to reinstall
old TDP SQL to restore them.
David Longo
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Nice to hear from you again Joerg -
I checked with 3 customers today running 5.1.1. The first was
running ITSM 5.1.1 for Solaris, the second was ITSM for W2K, and the third
was ITSM for AIX. All experienced the same behavior. Sounds like a bug to
me also. I will call this in to IBM
4.2.2.4 helped us some, but we are still seeing some serious issues.
I tend toward the opinion that the issues really stem from some corruption
that existed prior to the upgrade, but regardless, the lock problems have
not been completely resolved in 4.2.2.4
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From:
A simple way would be to exclude the log files from backup, and have a
preschedule command run that copies the log files someplace else or to
another filename and let the backup process back those up instead. E.g.
something like:
Dsm.sys:
Postschedulecmd cp /path/to/logs/* /path/to/logs/backup/
Thanks Dave. I'll watch for the patch.
Joerg Pohlmann
604-535-0452
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I think that we are having a problem with compression. I was wondering if
someone could share examples of compression jobs first one that does not
cause the DBIID to change and then one that does. We are running a TDP INCR
backup every night and we inspect 1154 domino databases and back up about
I am running 4.2.2.1 AIX clients with a 4.1.3 AIX server.
If I want to execute an OS level command on a client or a TSM command on
completion of a server scheduled client backup, do I have to run the backup
from inside a macro or command script and fire off an immediate action
schedule for the
Don't know about a used A60, we just purchased 3 3590E1A drives used for
57,000 including IBM installation from Bob Oles at Comprador Corporation
248-646-3000. We have been buying equipment from him for more than 7 years
without problems, This was a competitive procurement.
Has anyone
Eliza,
You could explicitly define all your J volumes to your offsite pool, and
move them based on their STATUS (not EMPTY).
DEFINE VOLUME TAPEBACK j_tape_volume
.
.
.
BACKUP STG TAPEPOOL TAPEBACK
Q VOL
C.DTF
Description: Binary data
The un-kludgey way is to put in dsm.sys:
postschedulecmd /pathname/scriptname.sh
That will run any type of command you want, but you don't get any reliable
SUCCESS/FAIL indicator beforehand.
The other choice is to change your client schedule from ACTION=INCREMENTAL
to ACTION=CMD, and define
I believe you'll find the select statement for doing that to be rather nasty
(i.e. takes a tremendous amount of time to the point of being impractical).
I don't recall the select statement but a quicker way to determine size of
active files is to do an export node * filedata=allactive preview=yes
Folks,
I am attempting to determine the overall performance one can expect from an
AIT3 implementation. For those of you with AIT3 tape technology, can you
send me the following information from your last migration:
MB Migrated
# of seconds to migrate that data
Number of migration streams
All
It works! I have installed 3 or 4 of those Scalar 100s and TSM works
just fine on it.
--
Joshua S. Bassi
Sr. Solutions Architect @ rs-unix.com
IBM Certified - AIX 5L, SAN, Shark
eServer Systems Expert -pSeries HACMP
Tivoli Certified Consultant- ADSM/TSM
Cell (415) 215-0326
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Marc,
My experience is with the HP library, but DLT instead of LTO. The issues
we ran into are not media or drive specific.
TSM 4.1.5.0 on AIX 4.3.3 ML 8.
HP SureStore 4/40 DLT 8000, four drives, diff SCSI
We've seen two serious problems that you'll have to watch out for:
1) Library firmware
I've always been curious about something.
How do you keep an handle on the fact that commodity PC storage is
growing at a far faster rate than tape capacity/system is?
For example, if I had a small LAN of about 300 PCs -- let's say,
an academic or corporate departmental LAN environment... each
Hot Diggety! Miles Purdy was rumored to have written:
NO! Remember that a copypool is a complete copy. So everything that is offsite is
onsite.
TSM does not need the offsite tapes to reclaim them!
Ah, that is a good point, when put that way. ;)
But you are correct: You could send a tape
Actually, Dan, sorry for my remark.
What you have to do is revisit what you are saving and put in exclude.dirs
for all directories that contain software that can be rebuilt from a common
desktop image (hard drive replacment). Have your users save their documents
in specific folders and only
On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 11:33:14AM -0400, Prather, Wanda wrote:
Is there a SELECT statement that can show me the (total) size of all active
files?
If any of your clients are doing compression, the values you get from
OCCUPANCY are irrelevant.
There is no place in TSM to query the original
I am actually running 2.2.1
David Longo [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 06/13/2002
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You said 2.2.
Gill,
A couple of observations:
- Is that a mail or application server? Judging by the Exclude statements
you added to the dsm.opt you are only excluding the databases and templates
on the root of Notes directory:
Exclude *:\notes\data\*.ft
Exclude *:\notes\data\*.nsf
I
Hot Diggety! Thomas Denier was rumored to have written:
It depends on the purpose of the log files. Some applications append
When put in that way, does make a lot of sense why the TSM behavior would
be have options to control that.
Fortunately, the log files in question is non-database, and
Ask them where they were on 9-11-2001. Are they totally brain dead?
Paul D. Seay, Jr.
Technical Specialist
Naptheon, INC
757-688-8180
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Hot Diggety! Seay, Paul was rumored to have written:
What you have to do is revisit what you are saving and put in exclude.dirs
for all directories that contain software that can be rebuilt from a common
desktop image (hard drive replacment). Have your users save their documents
in specific
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Gill, Geoffrey L.
We, meaning the Notes guys, had got things working with the Domino agent
recently. To backup the backups the nsf files were being backed up by the
regular baclient till we figured out if the TDP we
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