Re: Does Move Data recover space on virtual volumes?

2011-03-21 Thread Keith Arbogast
They are reclaimed the same as physical volumes. Just like physical volumes, they need to be 100% empty before they return space and can be reused. The reclamation process will move the data off eligible volumes (volumes under the reclamation threshhold) in order to make them 100% empty.

Re: Does Move Data recover space on virtual volumes?

2011-03-14 Thread J. Pohlmann
This is where one additional point comes to mind - that of the size of virtual volumes which is controlled with MAXCAP on the device class definition on the source server. You can change the value MAXCAP any time. The larger the virtual volume, the more white space you carry at the target

Re: Does Move Data recover space on virtual volumes?

2011-03-11 Thread Shawn Drew
supporting it. Regards, Shawn Shawn Drew Internet warbo...@indiana.edu Sent by: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 03/10/2011 04:43 PM Please respond to ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU To ADSM-L cc Subject Re: [ADSM-L] Does Move Data recover space on virtual volumes

Does Move Data recover space on virtual volumes?

2011-03-10 Thread Keith Arbogast
We are running TSM 6.2.2.2 on RHEL 5. It is my understanding that all the space used by a virtual volume is kept until every file on it has been expired. Virtual volumes don't shrink in size, just like physical cartridges, even though their pct_utilization may go down. Therefore, if some file

Re: Does Move Data recover space on virtual volumes?

2011-03-10 Thread Schneider, Jim
: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Keith Arbogast Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 10:08 AM To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu Subject: [ADSM-L] Does Move Data recover space on virtual volumes? We are running TSM 6.2.2.2 on RHEL 5. It is my understanding that all the space used

Re: Does Move Data recover space on virtual volumes?

2011-03-10 Thread Keith Arbogast
Jim, You must mean FULL rather than FILLING, and PENDING rather than SCRATCH, yes/no? Thanks again, Keith

Re: Does Move Data recover space on virtual volumes?

2011-03-10 Thread Keith Arbogast
Sorry. Move data does send volumes to 'scratch'. In the case of virtual volumes they are not reused. Keith

Re: Does Move Data recover space on virtual volumes?

2011-03-10 Thread Hart, Charles A
: [ADSM-L] Does Move Data recover space on virtual volumes? Sorry. Move data does send volumes to 'scratch'. In the case of virtual volumes they are not reused. Keith This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person

Re: Does Move Data recover space on virtual volumes?

2011-03-10 Thread Schneider, Jim
: Thursday, March 10, 2011 10:46 AM To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Does Move Data recover space on virtual volumes? Jim, You must mean FULL rather than FILLING, and PENDING rather than SCRATCH, yes/no? Thanks again, Keith

Re: Does Move Data recover space on virtual volumes?

2011-03-10 Thread Shawn Drew
jschnei...@ussco.com Sent by: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 03/10/2011 11:15 AM Please respond to ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU To ADSM-L cc Subject Re: [ADSM-L] Does Move Data recover space on virtual volumes? Yes. I use 'move data' to consolidate virtual filling volumes and reduce 'Pct Migr

Re: Does Move Data recover space on virtual volumes?

2011-03-10 Thread Schneider, Jim
: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:22 PM To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Does Move Data recover space on virtual volumes? Why wouldn't normal reclamation be used for this? It's the automatic move data intended to consolidate empty space. As long as expiration is running on both source

Re: Does Move Data recover space on virtual volumes?

2011-03-10 Thread Shawn Drew
I think it might be abnormal that you have filling virtual volumes. Are you using scratch in your virtual volume pool? or are you pre-defining the volumes? I use scratch volumes so it just creates new volumes dynamically. It then deletes them when empty. Once a session creates a virtual

Re: Does Move Data recover space on virtual volumes?

2011-03-10 Thread Keith Arbogast
My specific problem is with a tape pool that is a target for virtual volumes created by a remote TSM server. The number of cartridges in use by the pool goes up and up, at a faster rate than the data growth on the remote server. I suspect there are many virtual volumes in the target pool

Re: Does Move Data recover space on virtual volumes?

2011-03-10 Thread Hart, Charles A
- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Keith Arbogast Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 2:47 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Does Move Data recover space on virtual volumes? My specific problem is with a tape pool that is a target for virtual volumes

Re: Does Move Data recover space on virtual volumes?

2011-03-10 Thread Joerg Pohlmann
- From: Keith Arbogast warbo...@indiana.edu Date: Thursday, March 10, 2011 3:48 pm Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Does Move Data recover space on virtual volumes? To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU My specific problem is with a tape pool that is a target for virtual volumes created by a remote TSM server

Re: Does Move Data recover space on virtual volumes?

2011-03-10 Thread Keith Arbogast
Shawn, Your mention of the 50 GB MAXCAP on the device class was a jolt. Ours is 1 TB, and I see that could be exacerbating the problem. The bigger virtual volumes are, the more space they lock and the greater chance they contain active files, which results in longer lifespans for them. What

Re: Does Move Data recover space on virtual volumes?

2011-03-10 Thread Keith Arbogast
Joerg, The nut of the problem, if I have this right, is that virtual volumes aren't reclaimed the same way as physical volumes. They have to be 100% reclaimable before they return any space. Their pct_utilization does go down, but the empty space in them is locked until they are completely

Re: Does Move Data recover space on virtual volumes?

2011-03-10 Thread Shawn Drew
respond to ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU To ADSM-L cc Subject Re: [ADSM-L] Does Move Data recover space on virtual volumes? Joerg, The nut of the problem, if I have this right, is that virtual volumes aren't reclaimed the same way as physical volumes. They have to be 100% reclaimable before they return

Re: Does Move Data recover space on virtual volumes?

2011-03-10 Thread Erwann SIMON
volumes? To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU My specific problem is with a tape pool that is a target for virtual volumes created by a remote TSM server. The number of cartridges in use by the pool goes up and up, at a faster rate than the data growth on the remote server. I suspect there are many virtual

Re: Virtual Volumes won't die!

2010-03-31 Thread Shawn Drew
Subject Re: [ADSM-L] Virtual Volumes won't die! Try: q server f=d Check delgraceperiod parameter John Monahan This message and any attachments (the message) is intended solely for the addressees and is confidential. If you receive this message in error, please delete it and immediately

Re: Virtual Volumes won't die!

2010-03-31 Thread David McClelland
Shawn, I can't find the reference, but if I remember right (which is always suspect) Virtual Volumes are stored using an archive copy group on the target server, but ignores the Retain Version of the copy group. I'd been hunting for confirmation of this too - here goes: http://www-01.ibm.com

Virtual Volumes won't die!

2010-03-30 Thread Shawn Drew
) That's not the case this time. I can't find the reference, but if I remember right (which is always suspect) Virtual Volumes are stored using an archive copy group on the target server, but ignores the Retain Version of the copy group. The copy group for this is set to the default of 365 days, but I

Re: Virtual Volumes won't die!

2010-03-30 Thread John Monahan
-Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Shawn Drew Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 3:00 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Virtual Volumes won't die! I recently migrated about 5TB of data off of a VirtualVolume/Server based

Re: Virtual volumes question

2008-06-26 Thread Ian Blair
The target pools have a 'Delay Period for Volume Reuse:' for the virtual volumes. Your retry period is 10 days. Also the 'source virtual volumes' are stored on the 'target as archive files', expiration must complete on the target for archives to be deleted. Occasionally the pools get out

Re: Virtual volumes question

2008-06-26 Thread Skylar Thompson
Ian Blair wrote: The target pools have a 'Delay Period for Volume Reuse:' for the virtual volumes. Your retry period is 10 days. Also the 'source virtual volumes' are stored on the 'target as archive files', expiration must complete on the target for archives to be deleted. You hit

Virtual volumes question

2008-06-25 Thread Skylar Thompson
I'm testing out virtual volumes at our site, and I'm trying to figure out how to get virtual volumes deleted from the target server. When I do migration on the source server from the target server, the occupancy on the source server goes down but the target server stays the same. I'm using a DISK

Re: Virtual volumes question

2008-06-25 Thread Laura Buckley
Hi Skylar, I'm confused by your question. You say you are doing migration from the target to the source. But that doesn't make sense. In server-to-server virtual volumes, data is sent from the source to the target. Your configuration shows that you have a storage pool called ONSITE-MALI

Re: Virtual Volumes DB Backup

2007-11-15 Thread ALPER DILEKTASLI
Hello, You should use File Device Class for DB backups. Alper -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jonesrn Sent: 14 Kasım 2007 Çarşamba 23:44 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] Virtual Volumes DB Backup I have two TSM 5.4

Re: Virtual Volumes DB Backup

2007-11-15 Thread Strand, Neil B.
Of jonesrn Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 4:44 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] Virtual Volumes DB Backup I have two TSM 5.4 servers using SATA drives as their targets. (They are named TSM3 and TSM4) I do not have any tape drives or libraries set up. I want to backup the database

Re: Virtual Volumes DB Backup

2007-11-15 Thread Remco Post
servers for virtual volumes. When I defined the storage pool on the target server I specified the devclass as DISK. As in define stgpool sourcepool disk. However, on the source server the devclass targetclass seems to want a sequential device. I am guessing that this is why it seems

Re: Virtual Volumes DB Backup

2007-11-15 Thread Allen S. Rout
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:02:58 +0100, Remco Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: do NOT (repeat do NOT!) create circular dependencies between servers, keep backups of at least one database on disk, tape or whatever on physical volumes. What he said! A bunch! If you designate one server as -only-

Virtual Volumes DB Backup

2007-11-15 Thread jonesrn
Strategy: Sequential Storage Pool Count: 0 Device Type: SERVER At this point I am leaning toward creating a devtype of FILE and putting it on an NFS mount. (The NFS mount would be on a NAS in a different location.) However, I'd still like to get Virtual Volumes working for data migration, etc

Re: Virtual Volumes DB Backup

2007-11-15 Thread Strand, Neil B.
the virtual device class on the source server 2. run prepare devclass=virtual_device_class on the source server 3. on the target server do a query files 4. if you have space on the disk perform a db backup from the source 5. look at the volhist on the source server and you will see the virtual volumes One

Virtual Volumes DB Backup

2007-11-15 Thread jonesrn
that test tomorrow. I want to see what other fun things I can do with virtual volumes. Thanks all, I really appreciate your help! Rob Jones Network Administrator Lafayette College +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via

Virtual Volumes DB Backup

2007-11-14 Thread jonesrn
- required volume was not mounted. ANR0985I Process 91 for DATABASE BACKUP running in the BACKGROUND completed with completion state FAILURE at 03:47:09 PM. My strategy was to set up source and target servers for virtual volumes. When I defined the storage pool on the target server I specified

Re: Why virtual volumes?

2007-08-24 Thread Keith Arbogast
Richard Rhodes wrote: Here are just some of the problems . . . Rick, Yes, we see the exposure, but aren't the ones managing the budget. The completed DR architecture, when it's in place, will include on- site and off-site copies of both data centers. Thanks for your insights, Keith Arbogast

Re: Why virtual volumes?

2007-08-24 Thread Keith Arbogast
Allen Rout wrote: I'm having difficulty figuring out why this still feels not-answered to you. Allen, That statement, i.e. ...my dilemma, was more an justification of my original post than a commentary on the answers I had received. The simplest version of my question would have been, What am I

Re: Why virtual volumes?

2007-08-23 Thread Richard Rhodes
Richard, You asked thought provoking questions, but didn't answer mine. Hi, again . . . I guess I don't quite understand the situation. You have a remote site with a server you want to backup to your TSM server. Then, you ask why you would need VV's back at the remote site. What I don't

Re: Why virtual volumes

2007-08-23 Thread Markus Engelhard
Hi Keith, virtual volumes used to be a big benefit while bridging big distances for DR of backup data via fc/scsi was extremely expensive. Today, I use the feature in our multi-site infrastucture to do my additional db-snapshots to one (central) tsm-server. No tape is involved in this part

Re: Why virtual volumes?

2007-08-23 Thread Lawrence Clark
I'm curious. We've never relied on storing the TSM db backup to tape. We backup to disk and rcp it to a 2nd site. That's seems the simplest method. Anyone else do the same? [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/23/2007 9:00:35 AM Richard, You asked thought provoking questions, but didn't answer mine. Hi,

Re: Why virtual volumes?

2007-08-23 Thread Keith Arbogast
Nicholas Cassimatis wrote: With all of the features in TSM, there are a number of them that don't work for specific situations. Simultaneous writes on backup/ migration, virtual volumes, NDMP backups, 3rd mirrors of DB and Log volumes, adding documentation to your Prepare file - lots of features

Re: Why virtual volumes?

2007-08-23 Thread Keith Arbogast
Richard Rhodes wrote: I guess I don't quite understand the situation. Richard, I'm sorry I haven't made our situation clearer. In the current phase of the project we are building a TSM server in Bloomington to backup local clients to disk which will be migrated to virtual volumes

Re: Why virtual volumes?

2007-08-23 Thread Richard Rhodes
Richard, I'm sorry I haven't made our situation clearer. In the current phase of the project we are building a TSM server in Bloomington to backup local clients to disk which will be migrated to virtual volumes in Indianapolis. After migrating local clients to the new server, we plan

Re: Why virtual volumes?

2007-08-23 Thread Richard Rhodes
I said . . . Let me see if I fully understand . . . . Bloomington TSM-a local clients backup to disk pool disk pool migrates to TSM-b/VV at Indianapolis == primary tape pool is on TSM-b/VV at Indianapolis vv server - contains primary pool from TSM-b Indianapolis TSM-b

Re: Why virtual volumes?

2007-08-23 Thread Allen S. Rout
, which is more efficient on space. At the cost of some reliability. What happens if the particular tape the virtual volumes are on goes bad, and you're in a disaster needing a DB restore? Once you've sent data to a VV, (which looks like just-a-file to the target server) you can then copy

Re: Why virtual volumes?

2007-08-23 Thread Allen S. Rout
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 09:40:28 -0400, Keith Arbogast [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Knowing when they do and when they don't is the crux of my dilemma. The virtual volume methodology is presented in IBM designed training classes, Administrator's manuals, and in a very recent TSM Webcast as if it is

Re: Why virtual volumes?

2007-08-23 Thread Keith Arbogast
Richard Rhodes said Let me see if I understand... Rick, Yes, you understand very well. We will not have offsite copy pools until there are 3584's at both data centers. It is a huge concern for those who understand the implications. All the best, Keith

Why virtual volumes?

2007-08-22 Thread Keith Arbogast
I am not understanding the crucial advantage(s) of using virtual volumes to backup a data center to a remote site. Why not backup nodes in a remote data center to a TSM server in a local data center? We have two data centers about 60 miles apart. If we backup nodes in one data center directly

Re: Why virtual volumes?

2007-08-22 Thread Richard Rhodes
I am not understanding the crucial advantage(s) of using virtual volumes to backup a data center to a remote site. Why not backup nodes in a remote data center to a TSM server in a local data center? Sure, do it, we backup many remote sites to our central datacenter. The question is, what

Re: Why virtual volumes?

2007-08-22 Thread Keith Arbogast
Richard, You asked thought provoking questions, but didn't answer mine. What is the compelling reason to use virtual volumes? Offsite copypools and certain restorability of the TSM database are essential. Thank you for spotlighting those points. However, I can do those without virtual volumes

Re: Why virtual volumes?

2007-08-22 Thread Kelly Lipp
Well I would say, then, the reason for VV is to eliminate the need for real volumes: using virtual volumes on a remote TSM server eliminates the need to move real tape volumes to the remote server in the event of a disaster. Are they useful: that's a matter or opinion. Somebody made the very

Re: Why virtual volumes?

2007-08-22 Thread Richard Cowen
I think orinally, it was because intersite SCSI/FC was impossible or too expensive, while IP was cheap. (Or maybe one TSM server had scsi tape drives and a second did not.) Virtual volumes are basically treating one TSM server as a client and archiving to the other TSM server over IP

Fw: Why virtual volumes?

2007-08-22 Thread Nicholas Cassimatis
situations. Simultaneous writes on backup/migration, virtual volumes, NDMP backups, 3rd mirrors of DB and Log volumes, adding documentation to your Prepare file - lots of features that don't always make sense to use. But they're there, if you want/need them. Nick Cassimatis

Re: Why virtual volumes?

2007-08-22 Thread Stuart Lamble
happens if the particular tape the virtual volumes are on goes bad, and you're in a disaster needing a DB restore? I'd rather spend the extra money on tapes and know that if something goes bad, we'll at least be able to recover some of the data ... (I'm seeing installations getting over 2TB

Re: delete virtual volumes

2006-09-11 Thread Remco Post
Mark Stapleton wrote: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 09/08/2006 07:19:25 AM: we backup a storage pool to a copy pool on a target server (virtual volumes). Yesterday I deleted 10 virtual volumes from the copypool DELETE VOL ... DISCARD=YES The virtual volumes are seen

delete virtual volumes

2006-09-08 Thread Karl Rößmann
Hi, we backup a storage pool to a copy pool on a target server (virtual volumes). Yesterday I deleted 10 virtual volumes from the copypool DELETE VOL ... DISCARD=YES The virtual volumes are seen as archive data on the target server, the target server should delete these archive files. So I

Re: delete virtual volumes

2006-09-08 Thread Mark Stapleton
ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 09/08/2006 07:19:25 AM: we backup a storage pool to a copy pool on a target server (virtual volumes). Yesterday I deleted 10 virtual volumes from the copypool DELETE VOL ... DISCARD=YES The virtual volumes are seen as archive data

Re: group collocation on virtual volumes/ remote-server volumes ?

2006-05-23 Thread Rainer Wolf
when having disk-cache as Primary StoragePools and the next-storagepool is on a remote-tsm-server's virtual volumes ? If you want to get this kind of distinction working on the other side of a virtual-volume link, you're going to have to split things up by node on the virtual-volume target side

group collocation on virtual volumes/ remote-server volumes ?

2006-05-22 Thread Rainer Wolf
of the group-collocation-feature when having disk-cache as Primary StoragePools and the next-storagepool is on a remote-tsm-server's virtual volumes ? ...or does it just has no effect - setting this server-device-class-storage pool with those virtual volumes to 'collocation=group' ? best regards

Re: group collocation on virtual volumes/ remote-server volumes ?

2006-05-22 Thread Allen S. Rout
On Mon, 22 May 2006 16:14:28 +0200, Rainer Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: the question is now: is it possible to make use of the group-collocation-feature when having disk-cache as Primary StoragePools and the next-storagepool is on a remote-tsm-server's virtual volumes ? I think your

Offsite Virtual Volumes

2006-02-28 Thread Smith, I (Ian)
Hello Other than offsite reclamation, is there any way to easily consolidate offsite virtual volumes? Currently I have a server which is electronically vaulting to a remote TSM server. There are in the region of 3000 volumes in the copy pool, some 5 MB and smaller in size. Backup storage pool

Re: Offsite Virtual Volumes

2006-02-28 Thread Bos, Karel
Move data? Regards, Karel -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Smith, I (Ian) Sent: dinsdag 28 februari 2006 13:15 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Offsite Virtual Volumes Hello Other than offsite reclamation, is there any way

Re: Offsite Virtual Volumes

2006-02-28 Thread Smith, I (Ian)
: +44 (0)20 7809 3046 f: +44 (0)20 7809 3599 m: +44 (0)7843 689914 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bos, Karel Sent: 28 February 2006 12:27 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Offsite Virtual Volumes

Re: Offsite Virtual Volumes

2006-02-28 Thread Talafous, John
, February 28, 2006 7:29 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Offsite Virtual Volumes Move data just seems to create a new virtual volume, as when each VV is written to- it gets closed and can't be extended due to its logical nature. _ Ian Smith SAN/TSM

Re: Offsite Virtual Volumes

2006-02-28 Thread Smith, I (Ian)
] Offsite Virtual Volumes What is the est/max capacity on the device class used for the offsite storage pool. Is collocation enabled? These could both contribute to more smaller volumes. John -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Smith

Re: Offsite Virtual Volumes

2006-02-28 Thread Allen S. Rout
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 12:38:52 -, Smith, I (Ian) [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: No collocation Est capacity is set to 494365 G (A compressed LTO2 tape) Reclamation will probably be your only option; it's the only process I can think of which will keep the target volume open across various

Re: Offsite Virtual Volumes

2006-02-28 Thread Whitlock, Brett
Volumes Hello Other than offsite reclamation, is there any way to easily consolidate offsite virtual volumes? Currently I have a server which is electronically vaulting to a remote TSM server. There are in the region of 3000 volumes in the copy pool, some 5 MB and smaller in size. Backup storage

Re: Virtual Volumes on loopback.

2006-01-16 Thread Allen S. Rout
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:04:03 +1000, Steven Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Now, there used to be an idea that you could do this with server_to_server communications that used the loopback interface on so that the source and the destination servers are the same actual TSM instance. There was

Virtual Volumes on loopback.

2006-01-15 Thread Steven Harris
Hi All, I have a client that needs monthly backupsets for his BA clients and exports for his TDP clients. The device for this is a stand alone LTO2 drive that is separate from the main tape library (I'm eliding the detail here, trust me, there are valid reasons why he want it done this way).

Re: Virtual volumes question

2005-09-01 Thread Robert Ouzen
Hi Nick, Thanks for the info Robert -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nicholas Cassimatis Sent: ד 31 אוגוסט 2005 15:04 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Virtual volumes question Robert, Yes, that's how I've done

Virtual volumes question

2005-08-31 Thread Robert Ouzen
Hi to all I am in a process of changing my drives from SDLT to LTO on a library connected to TSM server 1 , I created server to server virtual volumes with an another server TSM server 2 with a library attached already with LTO drives. I want to migrate my storage pool on tapes from TSM

Re: Virtual volumes question

2005-08-31 Thread Nicholas Cassimatis
@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 08/31/2005 06:29:16 AM: Hi to all I am in a process of changing my drives from SDLT to LTO on a library connected to TSM server 1 , I created server to server virtual volumes with an another server TSM server 2 with a library attached already with LTO drives. I want to migrate

Virtual volumes and multiple diskpools on target server

2005-06-30 Thread Pugliese, Edward
Just to be sure I am not missing something obvious: With server-to-server configured, is it true that you can only have one diskpool or tapepool on the remote server as the destination for the virtual volumes? I have several diskpools on my source server that get backed up to local copypools

Re: Virtual volumes and multiple diskpools on target server

2005-06-30 Thread Joerg Pohlmann
Edward, set up multiple policy domains on your target server. Each Policy domain has a node (type=server) that is used for the virtual volumes by the source server. The default MC in each policy domain can then point to different hierarchies such that you have different physical tapes use

Re: Virtual volumes and multiple diskpools on target server

2005-06-30 Thread Pugliese, Edward
and never even saw any discussion that hinted at this approach. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joerg Pohlmann Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 3:26 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Virtual volumes and multiple diskpools

Re: Reclaimation of virtual volumes

2005-06-07 Thread Das, Samiran (IDS ECCS)
Subject: Re: Reclaimation of virtual volumes Hi - Take a look at the devclass on the remote server that points to the local server (people often call is SERVERCLASS) or something like that. You might need to increase the value of mountlimit. It will need to be at least two for reclamation

Re: Reclaimation of virtual volumes

2005-06-07 Thread Curt Watts
Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura Buckley Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 7:14 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Reclaimation of virtual volumes Hi - Take a look at the devclass on the remote server that points to the local server (people often call is SERVERCLASS

Reclaimation of virtual volumes

2005-06-06 Thread Curt Watts
Hi All, I'm working with TSM server 5.2.3.5 (remote) and TSM server 5.2.1.2 (local) - all on win2k server. I've set up virtual volumes such that the remote server is utilizing the local server's diskpool for both Database and File backups. Remote Disk -- Local Disk -- Local Tape. The volumes

Re: Reclaimation of virtual volumes

2005-06-06 Thread Laura Buckley
Hi - Take a look at the devclass on the remote server that points to the local server (people often call is SERVERCLASS) or something like that. You might need to increase the value of mountlimit. It will need to be at least two for reclamation to work with virtual volumes. Laura

Setting up Virtual Volumes

2005-05-06 Thread fred johanson
I'm trying to set up virtual volumes for DB Backups. I have, in this order, upd server targetserver serverpa=pw nodename=sourceserver def dev dbbackup devt=server servername=targetserver reg no sourceserver pw t=server When I run ba db t=full dev=dbback it fails with ANR0424W - invalid password

Re: Virtual Volumes Not Being Deleted

2004-12-13 Thread Wheelock, Michael D
Hi, In order to reclaim space on a copy pool that is a server to server virtual volumes you must: 1) run reclamation on the source copy pool. It must finish reclaiming and delete the volume. 2) run expire inventory on the target server. This will show up as deleting archives (because

Re: Virtual Volumes Not Being Deleted

2004-12-13 Thread Mark Fergusson
Thanks Michael et al It is now ok Mark -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wheelock, Michael D Sent: 13 December 2004 14:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Virtual Volumes Not Being Deleted Hi, In order to reclaim space on a copy

Re: Virtual Volumes Not Being Deleted

2004-12-12 Thread Bos, Karel
-Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Fergusson Sent: zaterdag 11 december 2004 21:56 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Virtual Volumes Not Being Deleted Hi TSM'rs I have two TSM servers TSM1 and TSM2 running TSM 5.2.3.2 on Redhat ES3. TSM1

Virtual Volumes Not Being Deleted

2004-12-11 Thread Mark Fergusson
Hi TSM'rs I have two TSM servers TSM1 and TSM2 running TSM 5.2.3.2 on Redhat ES3. TSM1 is the primary server having a copypool on TSM2 as file based virtual volumes. When reclamation runs on the source server the volumes, also file based, are deleted. Even though the activity report indicates

Re: Empty Virtual volumes

2004-09-30 Thread Jim Sporer
? ray On Tue, 28 Sep 2004, Coats, Jack wrote: Is there a retention set? -Original Message- From: -ray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 8:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Empty Virtual volumes Anyone ever seen this? Using virtual volumes, my primary

Re: Empty Virtual volumes

2004-09-28 Thread Coats, Jack
Is there a retention set? -Original Message- From: -ray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 8:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Empty Virtual volumes Anyone ever seen this? Using virtual volumes, my primary server keeps EMPTY volumes around... not sure

Re: Empty Virtual volumes

2004-09-28 Thread -ray
volumes Anyone ever seen this? Using virtual volumes, my primary server keeps EMPTY volumes around... not sure if they are created empty or become empty through reclamation. Shouldn't they be deleted after reclamataion? Or at least reused? It's filling up maxscratch on the stgp and causing

Empty Virtual volumes

2004-09-27 Thread -ray
Anyone ever seen this? Using virtual volumes, my primary server keeps EMPTY volumes around... not sure if they are created empty or become empty through reclamation. Shouldn't they be deleted after reclamataion? Or at least reused? It's filling up maxscratch on the stgp and causing

Experiences performing DB backups to remote virtual volumes?

2004-02-02 Thread asr
I'm considering changing the way I do my TSM DB backups; I've heard some user experiences about backing up to remote server volumes, and it appears that this would simplify a lot of work, and save oodles of space. Here's how I've got it sketched in my mind right now: A server instance whose

Re: Virtual Volumes on same server (Was Create more then one backu pset to one tape)

2003-06-03 Thread Rushforth, Tim
Well I found out that this is not supported. APAR IC35654 - Virtual Volumes with source and target servers residing on same server is not supported. -Original Message- From: Rushforth, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May 29, 2003 1:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Create more

virtual volumes on target server - when do they go away?

2003-06-03 Thread GWDVMS::MOELLER
I've been testing a remote Copypool setup, and now want to clean up ... As the last thing on the (temporary) source server, I deleted all virtual volumes, and checked via RECONCILE VOLUMES that they were all (logically) gone. On the target server though, I still have the non-empty archive

Re: virtual volumes on target server - when do they go away?

2003-06-03 Thread Jim Sporer
delete filespace nodename ADSM.SERVER type=server That should get rid of the filespace. Jim Sporer At 07:15 PM 6/2/2003 +0200, you wrote: I've been testing a remote Copypool setup, and now want to clean up ... As the last thing on the (temporary) source server, I deleted all virtual volumes

Re: Virtual Volumes Storage Pools

2002-12-10 Thread asr
= On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 09:23:42 +1100, Gordon Woodward [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Can anyone tell me how you define what storage pools a SOURCE server uses on a TARGET server when doing SERVER to SERVER operations? I've tried looking for the answer in the TSM Admin Guide and searching this list

Virtual Volumes Storage Pools

2002-12-09 Thread Gordon Woodward
Can anyone tell me how you define what storage pools a SOURCE server uses on a TARGET server when doing SERVER to SERVER operations? I've tried looking for the answer in the TSM Admin Guide and searching this list but to no avail. Currently we have a Primary TSM server and a Backup TSM server,

Re: Virtual Volumes Storage Pools

2002-12-09 Thread Edwin Hernandez
. If the volume size is larger than your diskpool size, the data will go straight to tape! Hope this helps! -Original Message- From: Gordon Woodward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Virtual Volumes Storage Pools Can anyone

Backup Storagepool using Virtual-volumes

2002-10-08 Thread Ilja G. Coolen
Hi there, We've been experimenting with virtual volumes, being used for backup storagepools. The thing we notice is that on the destination server there's no expiration or deletion of the created volumes after we delete the copy storagepool volumes on the source server. The volumes

Re: Export/Import with virtual volumes

2002-10-01 Thread Jim Sporer
On TEST2 issue the command DELETE FILESPACE TEST1 * TYPE=SERVER Jim Sporer At 02:51 PM 9/27/2002 -0400, you wrote: I've been playing around with export/import using server-2-server virtual volumes with some success. We have be migrating one of our clients off OS390 to AIX TSM server..so I wanted

Re: Export/Import with virtual volumes

2002-09-28 Thread Horst Scherzer
- Original Message - From: Bill Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 8:51 PM Subject: Export/Import with virtual volumes I've been playing around with export/import using server-2-server virtual volumes with some success. We have be migrating

Export/Import with virtual volumes

2002-09-27 Thread Bill Boyer
I've been playing around with export/import using server-2-server virtual volumes with some success. We have be migrating one of our clients off OS390 to AIX TSM server..so I wanted to be prepared. I was able to export from TEST1 to TEST2, and then import into TEST2 with no problems. But now I

Re: Virtual Volumes...

2002-09-09 Thread Suad Musovich
drive resource. Suad -- On Fri, 2002-09-06 at 00:54, Cook, Dwight E wrote: This is a real catch-22 BIG virtual volumes means less tsm data base space tied up tracking tons of little virtual volumes (and files on the remote server) BUT big virtual volumes also means lots of data transfered over

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