AW: Ndmp Backup to primary Diskpool
I want to put the ndmp datastream on diskpools (type file or disk), but i don't know whether it's possible. Regards Stefan holzwarth -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: PINNI, BALANAND (SBCSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet: Montag, 17. Februar 2003 20:43 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: Ndmp Backup to primary Diskpool Hi If u have filer .Then u should we using ndmpcopy utility on Filer.To copy between volumes on Filer or across filers. I did this recently. Thanks Balanand Pinni -Original Message- From: Stefan Holzwarth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 8:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Ndmp Backup to primary Diskpool I think about the following environment: TSM Server on Windows2000 with 5 * 2 TByte Primary diskpools on FC Raids (with IDE Disk internal - RAID 5) and 5 * 2 TByte Copy diskpools on FC Raids (with IDE Disk internal - RAID 5) TSM DB on lokal RAID 10 with total 8 disks Together with other NT Systems I want to backup our filer (4TB) over NDMP to that diskpools. Since i have no experience with NDMP (we have TSM on MVS) i wonder whether that config is possible. Does the datastream goe over FC or ip? Kind regards, Stefan Holzwarth -- Stefan Holzwarth ADAC e.V. (Informationsverarbeitung - Systemtechnik - Basisdienste) Am Westpark 8, 81373 München, Tel.: (089) 7676-5212, Fax: (089) 76768924 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Semote storage pool
Hello, I would like to know if it is possible to have a storage pool on a remote machine without installing TSM on it. Typically, what I wan't to do is to use space on a remote server to have a disk or a file storage pool on it. I tried with a file device class and it allows only local disks. A disk devices class goes a little further, but when it tries to format the volume, there's an error. One possibility would be to create a local file storage pool and then to copy the files on the remote servers and put the file volumes in offline state, or something like that, but is there something easier ? I tried that with TSM 5.1.5 Etienne GUILLAUMONT e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] RGB Technologie Parc d'Innovation, Bâtiment PYTHAGORE 11 Rue Jean SAPIDUS 67400 ILLKIRCH Tél : 03 90 40 60 60 Fax : 03 90 40 60 61
TSM on Linux
Hello, I tried to install TSM 5.1.5 server on Linux but I have a problem because my level is 7.3 red hat with a 2.4.18.24 kernel and for the devices, TSM requires an older kernel. Is there any possibility to have TSM work on my linux level ? Etienne GUILLAUMONT e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] RGB Technologie Parc d'Innovation, Bâtiment PYTHAGORE 11 Rue Jean SAPIDUS 67400 ILLKIRCH Tél : 03 90 40 60 60 Fax : 03 90 40 60 61
Re: Semote storage pool
Hi Etienne, you can use remote disks for file device class. I am not sure about 5.1 version, but I did this on 4.2 version and it worked fine. I had problems with using disk device class on remote disks, but file device class worked for me. You can even use UNC names for file volumes (it is better than using drive mapping, bacause you do not need to be logged in to console on TSM server) Ing. Jozef Zatko Login a.s. Dlha 2, Stupava tel.: (421) (2) 60252618 GUILLAUMONT Etienne eguillau@RGB-TECHNTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] OLOGIE.FR cc: Sent by: ADSM:Subject: Semote storage pool Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] DU 18.02.2003 09:51 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Hello, I would like to know if it is possible to have a storage pool on a remote machine without installing TSM on it. Typically, what I wan't to do is to use space on a remote server to have a disk or a file storage pool on it. I tried with a file device class and it allows only local disks. A disk devices class goes a little further, but when it tries to format the volume, there's an error. One possibility would be to create a local file storage pool and then to copy the files on the remote servers and put the file volumes in offline state, or something like that, but is there something easier ? I tried that with TSM 5.1.5 Etienne GUILLAUMONT e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] RGB Technologie Parc d'Innovation, Btiment PYTHAGORE 11 Rue Jean SAPIDUS 67400 ILLKIRCH Tl : 03 90 40 60 60 Fax : 03 90 40 60 61
Re: Semote storage pool
Ing. Jozef Zatko, Can you share the steps to achieve this remote storage pool. Thanks, chandrasekhar -Original Message- From: Jozef Zatko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 3:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Semote storage pool Hi Etienne, you can use remote disks for file device class. I am not sure about 5.1 version, but I did this on 4.2 version and it worked fine. I had problems with using disk device class on remote disks, but file device class worked for me. You can even use UNC names for file volumes (it is better than using drive mapping, bacause you do not need to be logged in to console on TSM server) Ing. Jozef Zatko Login a.s. Dlha 2, Stupava tel.: (421) (2) 60252618 GUILLAUMONT Etienne eguillau@RGB-TECHNTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] OLOGIE.FR cc: Sent by: ADSM:Subject: Semote storage pool Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] DU 18.02.2003 09:51 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Hello, I would like to know if it is possible to have a storage pool on a remote machine without installing TSM on it. Typically, what I wan't to do is to use space on a remote server to have a disk or a file storage pool on it. I tried with a file device class and it allows only local disks. A disk devices class goes a little further, but when it tries to format the volume, there's an error. One possibility would be to create a local file storage pool and then to copy the files on the remote servers and put the file volumes in offline state, or something like that, but is there something easier ? I tried that with TSM 5.1.5 Etienne GUILLAUMONT e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] RGB Technologie Parc d'Innovation, Btiment PYTHAGORE 11 Rue Jean SAPIDUS 67400 ILLKIRCH Tl : 03 90 40 60 60 Fax : 03 90 40 60 61 ** This message and any attachments are intended for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward, copy, print, use or disclose this communication to others; also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. The Timken Company **
Tivoli Protection for Mail, Domino edition
Hello list. My TSM server is version 4.1.5 running on AIX. I know it isn't supported, but it is danm stable. Now I want to install TSM for Mail, Notes Edittion which I think is the old TDP for Domino v. 1.1.2. Does any one know if it is possible to run it with my old server? My plan is to install the 5.1.5 client and then the TDP client. -- Best Regards Emil S. Hansen - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ESH14-DK UNIX Administrator, Berlingske IT - www.bit.dk PGP: 109375FA/ABEB 1EFA A764 529E 82B5 0943 AD3B 1FC2 1093 75FA Gravity can not be held responsible for people falling in love. - Albert Einstein
ANR2576W An attempt was made to update an event record for a scheduled operation which has already been executed
Hi list ! Could someone help me with that one : I get a client node (win2k) for which TSM reports following message every night : 02/18/03 03:29:01 ANR2576W An attempt was made to update an event record for a scheduled operation which has already been executed - multiple client schedulers may be active for node PAC2K340. I'm certain that no multiple schedulers are started on this node, but from my analyse of the logs, I believe that, as soon as the node has finished it's backup, the session hangs, due to network problem, and when restarted becomes the same schedule again, and repeats the work. Some logs, to make it clearer : TSM activity log : 18.02.2003 00:32:06 ANR2561I Schedule prompter contacting PAC2K340 (session 1369418) to start a scheduled operation. 18.02.2003 00:32:10 ANR0406I Session 1369423 started for node PAC2K340 (WinNT) (Tcp/Ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx(1401)). 18.02.2003 00:37:35 ANR0406I Session 1369771 started for node PAC2K340 (WinNT) (Tcp/Ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx(1405)). 18.02.2003 00:40:41 ANE4987E (Session: 1369771, Node: PAC2K340) Error processing 'xx': the object is in use by another process ... skipped blah-blah 18.02.2003 01:03:14 ANR0482W Session 1369423 for node PAC2K340 (WinNT) terminated - idle for more than 15 minutes. 18.02.2003 01:13:47 ANR0406I Session 1371466 started for node PAC2K340 (WinNT) (Tcp/Ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx(1423)). 18.02.2003 01:29:12 ANR0482W Session 1371466 for node PAC2K340 (WinNT) terminated - idle for more than 15 minutes. 18.02.2003 01:32:54 ANR0406I Session 1372430 started for node PAC2K340 (WinNT) (Tcp/Ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx(1430)). 18.02.2003 01:48:50 ANE4952I (Session: 1372430, Node: PAC2K340) Total number of objects inspected: 26,680 18.02.2003 01:48:50 ANE4954I (Session: 1372430, Node: PAC2K340) Total number of objects backed up:2,255 18.02.2003 01:48:50 ANE4958I (Session: 1372430, Node: PAC2K340) Total number of objects updated: 2 18.02.2003 01:48:50 ANE4960I (Session: 1372430, Node: PAC2K340) Total number of objects rebound: 0 18.02.2003 01:48:50 ANE4957I (Session: 1372430, Node: PAC2K340) Total number of objects deleted: 0 18.02.2003 01:48:50 ANE4970I (Session: 1372430, Node: PAC2K340) Total number of objects expired: 1,207 18.02.2003 01:48:50 ANE4959I (Session: 1372430, Node: PAC2K340) Total number of objects failed: 11 18.02.2003 01:48:50 ANE4961I (Session: 1372430, Node: PAC2K340) Total number of bytes transferred: 1.72 GB 18.02.2003 01:48:50 ANE4963I (Session: 1372430, Node: PAC2K340) Data transfer time:2,994.31 sec 18.02.2003 01:48:50 ANE4966I (Session: 1372430, Node: PAC2K340) Network data transfer rate: 603.65 KB/sec 18.02.2003 01:48:50 ANE4967I (Session: 1372430, Node: PAC2K340) Aggregate data transfer rate:392.95 KB/sec 18.02.2003 01:48:50 ANE4968I (Session: 1372430, Node: PAC2K340) Objects compressed by:6% 18.02.2003 01:48:50 ANE4964I (Session: 1372430, Node: PAC2K340) Elapsed processing time:00:03:39 18.02.2003 01:48:53 ANR0403I Session 1369771 ended for node PAC2K340 (WinNT). 18.02.2003 02:25:35 ANR0406I Session 1374418 started for node PAC2K340 (WinNT) (Tcp/Ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx(1083)). 18.02.2003 02:26:09 ANR0406I Session 1374443 started for node PAC2K340 (WinNT) (Tcp/Ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx(1101)). ...skipped blah-blah 18.02.2003 02:29:53 ANE4952I (Session: 1374418, Node: PAC2K340) Total number of objects inspected: 26,666 18.02.2003 02:29:53 ANE4954I (Session: 1374418, Node: PAC2K340) Total number of objects backed up:2,078 18.02.2003 02:29:53 ANE4958I (Session: 1374418, Node: PAC2K340) Total number of objects updated: 3 18.02.2003 02:29:53 ANE4960I (Session: 1374418, Node: PAC2K340) Total number of objects rebound: 0 18.02.2003 02:29:53 ANE4957I (Session: 1374418, Node: PAC2K340) Total number of objects deleted: 0 18.02.2003 02:29:53 ANE4970I (Session: 1374418, Node: PAC2K340) Total number of objects expired: 3 18.02.2003 02:29:53 ANE4959I (Session: 1374418, Node: PAC2K340) Total number of objects failed: 9 18.02.2003 02:29:53 ANE4961I (Session: 1374418, Node: PAC2K340) Total number of bytes transferred: 153.77 MB 18.02.2003 02:29:53
Re: Backup via a script
Nicolas, Could you provide us a little bit more details on what you're willing to do, and on your knowledge of TSM and AIX, that we have a better idea of what you're trying to achive and the means to do it ? TIA. Arnaud =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | Arnaud Brion, Panalpina Management Ltd., IT Group | | Viaduktstrasse 42, P.O. Box, 4002 Basel - Switzerland | | Phone: +41 61 226 19 78 / Fax: +41 61 226 17 01 | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -Original Message- From: Nicolas Savva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 18 February, 2003 8:12 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Backup via a script Hi to all, Any ideas for a script that will take a backup file(through TSM server) on AIX box? Thanks in advance Nick Privileged/Confidential information may be contained in this message and may be subject to legal privilege. Access to this e-mail by anyone other than the intended recipient is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person), you may not use, copy, distribute or deliver to anyone this message (or any part of its contents) or take any action in reliance on it. In such case, you should destroy this message, and notify us immediately. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail or telephone and delete the e-mail from any computer. If you or your employer does not consent to internet e-mail messages of this kind, please notify us immediately. All reasonable precautions have been taken to ensure no viruses are present in this e-mail. As we cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this e-mail or attachments we recommend that you subject these to your virus checking procedures prior to use. The views, opinions, conclusions and other information expressed in this electronic mail are not given or endorsed by Laiki Group unless otherwise indicated by an authorised representative independent of this message.
Re: TSM on Linux
Etienne, Probably not. I tried this as well, and ultimately had to back down to RH 7.2 with a kernel upgrade to get things working. The TSMSCSI modules appear to be VERY fussy about loading into *exactly* the kernel specified. Once you meet the requirements, however, it seems to work pretty well, although it still complains about tainting the kernel when you insert the modules. Note that I only have this working in a lab environment...haven't tried it on anything production (yet). Regards, -Lloyd On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 09:54:12 +0100 GUILLAUMONT Etienne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I tried to install TSM 5.1.5 server on Linux but I have a problem because my level is 7.3 red hat with a 2.4.18.24 kernel and for the devices, TSM requires an older kernel. Is there any possibility to have TSM work on my linux level ? Etienne GUILLAUMONT e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] RGB Technologie Parc d'Innovation, Bâtiment PYTHAGORE 11 Rue Jean SAPIDUS 67400 ILLKIRCH Tél : 03 90 40 60 60 Fax : 03 90 40 60 61 -- - Lloyd Dieter- Senior Technology Consultant Registered Linux User 285528 Synergy, Inc. http://www.synergyinc.cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Main:585-389-1260fax:585-389-1267 -
Re: Stop Bagging TSM Developers.
Just my opinion, but based on the bug releases of late, they are doing a pretty good bagging job on their own.
Re: A query about NDMP support
Since I've received no response from the list, I decided to spend a day reading through both the TSM documentation on NDMP and the documentation on NDMP itself. I had thought that NDMP was just a backup protocol that TSM could support. It is not. It is a complete backup system itself. It requires that the drives be attached (dedicated) to it and that it write the tapes itself. This means that you need to share the library and drives (more licenses!) It also needs to manage it's own database of backup data. TSM would only provide a tape storagepool that it would be unable to make a copy of for disaster recovery. TSM would not be able to do tape reclamation on that storage pool either. Basically, it means that NDMP is another backup system to manage, one that does not have the features of TSM that make it most useful to us. As for the 3-way option that Mirapoint would like TSM to implement, it would eliminate the need for the tape drives to be directly connected to the Mirapoint box, It would instead push this off onto yet another box that would be connected to the library and tape drives. Oh, joy! another box to pay for and manage! Of course, I'm sure that they think that the TSM box would be able to house the second NDMP host, possible, but I wouldn't want to manage it. As for adding complete NDMP host capabilities to TSM, well, I expect that eventually that will happen, but not for quite a while. I would not want to use it unless TSM was then able to manage the storagepool like it does it's own. In other words, not unless disaster recovery and tape reclamation were automatically part of the process. In short, we are going to continue using a two stage process for backing up our Mirapoint boxes. We will use the Mirapoint backups to create backup files on another server and then use TSM to backup those files. If I'm wrong about any of this, I'm sure that someone will let me know. *8^) David Jelinek -Original Message- From: Jelinek, David G. Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 16:38 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: A query about NDMP support I would like to ask for some expert opinions from this group. We use MiraPoint's e-mail appliance for our student e-mail. We would like to back it up using ITSM. MiraPoint has said that it intends to qualify with TSM. They want us to push IBM/Tivoli for 3-way NDMP support in TSM. I have no idea if that's a good thing or not. The reason they said they want us to push for it is given in this snippet from a discussion list, but it makes no sense to me at all: I'd again like to stress the strong suggestion that we get the customers to press hard for IBM/Tivoli to support 3-way NDMP for TSM. This is undoubtedly the preferred method - for both customers and Mirapoint. The alternative, which would be very difficult for both Mirapoint and the customers, would be to use a direct connection to the Mirapoint. This method would require us to also qualify the tape device which is directly connected . . . that will add much time, cost and complexity Please, lets make certain that we get all of these TSM requests to be echoed back to IBM/Tivoli!!! We need 3-way NDMP support in TSM. So is 3-way NDMP a good thing to push for? Do their reason(s) make any sense, and are they valid? Or do they not understand TSM and NDMP? Thanks in advance for your opinions and advice. David Jelinek
Re: Semote storage pool
Hi Etienne, it is easy. I suppose you have a server with disk capacity, which you want use for TSM to store data. I do not know if that remote machine is Windows or Unix system. It is possible to use both of them (I actually worked only with Windows system but with NFS in Unix it should be also possible). On Windows system you create shared directory, which TSM server will use for file volumes. You must assign access proper rights to this share for user, under which TSM server is running, so that TSM server can access this directory and create and delete files. Let say for example that your remote machine is named server1 and shared directory is named data. If TSM server have proper access rights, you can create storage pool on this shared directory like this: define devclass remotefile devt=file maxcap=200M directory=\\server1\data define stg filestg remotefile maxscr=100 You have to be carefull about setting maxscr parameter. This parameter depends on maxcap parameter from device class. If you multiply this two number, the result should not be greater than storage capacity you have available on remote server (in my example I assume you have 20 GB). If you have Unix machine, you can do the same steps except that in devclass definition for directory parameter you use your NFS mount directory. And that is all. Hope this helps Ing. Jozef Zatko Login a.s. Dlha 2, Stupava tel.: (421) (2) 60252618 Chandrasekha r, C.R To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CHARAKOC@TIMcc: KEN.COM Subject: Re: Semote storage pool Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] RIST.EDU 18.02.2003 11:27 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Ing. Jozef Zatko, Can you share the steps to achieve this remote storage pool. Thanks, chandrasekhar -Original Message- From: Jozef Zatko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 3:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Semote storage pool Hi Etienne, you can use remote disks for file device class. I am not sure about 5.1 version, but I did this on 4.2 version and it worked fine. I had problems with using disk device class on remote disks, but file device class worked for me. You can even use UNC names for file volumes (it is better than using drive mapping, bacause you do not need to be logged in to console on TSM server) Ing. Jozef Zatko Login a.s. Dlha 2, Stupava tel.: (421) (2) 60252618 GUILLAUMONT Etienne eguillau@RGB-TECHNTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] OLOGIE.FR cc: Sent by: ADSM:Subject: Semote storage pool Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] DU 18.02.2003 09:51 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager
Re: Stop Bagging TSM Developers.
And for my 2 cents worth, I see this as a TSM management and not development problem. There seems to be no regression test suite, and no change control/revision control process. Tom Kauffman NIBCO, Inc. -Original Message- From: Jolliff, Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 9:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Stop Bagging TSM Developers. Just my opinion, but based on the bug releases of late, they are doing a pretty good bagging job on their own.
TSM Memory Usage
Hi all you TSMers out there I have a vague memory question here. I'm running TSM on a Solaris 2.7 machine and what I want to know is, when I start the TSM server, does it automatically grab a chunk of the free memory regardless of what it is doing at the time. Thanks Farren Minns John Wiley Sons Ltd
Re: Recovery log
Hello One gig is too small. I've had the same problem, when slow clients backed up alot of data it took several hours and the log began filling up. Regards Niklas -Original Message- From: Mark Hayden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: den 18 februari 2003 16:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Recovery log HI all, We have had some issues with our recovery log filling up during archives. Our Db is growing at an a alarming speed , about 82 % of a 41 Gb db. Our log is only a gig in size..Is this to small This seams to happen during remote archives across the Wan...Could this play a role? Thanks, Mark Hayden Informations Systems Analyst E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tivoli Protection for Mail, Domino edition
From: Emil S. Hansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] My TSM server is version 4.1.5 running on AIX. I know it isn't supported, but it is danm stable. Now I want to install TSM for Mail, Notes Edittion which I think is the old TDP for Domino v. 1.1.2. Does any one know if it is possible to run it with my old server? Yes, it should work just dandy. However, if you have problems of any kind, Tivoli support's first request is that you update your server to supported levels. -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Semote storage pool
From: GUILLAUMONT Etienne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I would like to know if it is possible to have a storage pool on a remote machine without installing TSM on it. Typically, what I wan't to do is to use space on a remote server to have a disk or a file storage pool on it. I tried with a file device class and it allows only local disks. A disk devices class goes a little further, but when it tries to format the volume, there's an error. One possibility would be to create a local file storage pool and then to copy the files on the remote servers and put the file volumes in offline state, or something like that, but is there something easier ? I tried that with TSM 5.1.5 Why would you want to do this? Disk (particularly local disk) is cheap these days. The lag resultant from Windows drive mappings or (shudder!) NFS mounts will greatly slow your throughput. -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: ANR2576W An attempt was made to update an event record for a scheduled operation which has already been executed
From: PAC Brion Arnaud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Could someone help me with that one : I get a client node (win2k) for which TSM reports following message every night : 02/18/03 03:29:01 ANR2576W An attempt was made to update an event record for a scheduled operation which has already been executed - multiple client schedulers may be active for node PAC2K340. Check to see if you have any restartable restores going on for the client in question: q restore Cancel the session number if you do, and see if that makes the problem go away. -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: 5.1.6.2 is out
In the spirit of sharing experiences: Is anyone who is on 5.1.6.0 satisfied with the delivery? We found strange issues at 5160 upgrade time; we ran one server for a few days at 5160 (from 3 February) which was quite satisfactory but were advised by support to go to 5161 ... Is anyone on 5.1.6.1 satisfied with that delivery? We upgraded one server to 5161 on 7 February and two more on 12 February. All are at AIX 433ml10. We use SSA disk primarily, 3494 and 3590Es. We have had one TSM server crash and been advised to go to AIX 433ml11. We may do that next or try to push on to AIX 5.1 (which is our aim). Apart from that we are doing fine. Performance of EXPIRE INVENTORY is significantly improved (almost double). We have seen a couple of old (windows) 3.7 clients have a problem when the password expires (looping sessions trying to connect and therefore clocking up sessions at a very fast rate). We will be rolling out the V5 clients next. Two of our servers have DBs in excess of 100GB and daily intake of 200GB and 400GB approximately, often in excess of a million files per day. The third is smaller and supporting archive and hsm. I am aware of another hsm site which experienced problems with 5160; these were alleviated by 5161. Is anyone ready to move to 5.1.6.2? We have been advised to move to 5162, which we will probably do in the next week or two; it's on a test server. Best wishes, Sheelagh -- Sheelagh Treweek Oxford University Computing Services Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +44 (0)1865 273205 Fax:-273275
DB Cache Hit Rate Question
Good afternoon all TSMers. I'm a little confused about the cache hit ratio information. If I run expiration on a database, surely the TSM server has to trawl through the entire thing on disk as it does not already reside in the buffer. So how would I expect to see hit ratios of 99% or higher. I won't go into details here as I'm more interested in the process of how the database and cache work than out particular performance problems. But, as we do very little in the way of restores, surely the amount of time that a requested database file is present in the cache must be very low, so a cache hit ratio of 96-98% would make sense. Please forgive my ignorance here as I'm not a expert in this field at all. Many thanks in advance All the best Farren Minns John Wiley Sons Ltd
Will the IBM lurkers here be joining iSeries community?
IBM has announced a FAQ lookup, instant messaging group, and a lot of other functions to help assist people. http://community.ngi.ibm.com/ How will this affect the participation of the many IBM people who participate in these lists? Rob Berendt -- They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin
Re: A query about NDMP support
I am assuming that these disk vols are nfs mounted over some of the hosts systems in your environment . I use to backup these disks vols locally from the server where it is mounted .There is a option to backup nfs mounted fliesystems . Yes - $4500 per NDMP license . Thanks regards . Shekhar Dhotre. Sr.Midrange Engineer. Lend Lase , GSDC. PH: 1+404-846-7483 Jelinek, David G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/18/2003 10:20 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: A query about NDMP support Since I've received no response from the list, I decided to spend a day reading through both the TSM documentation on NDMP and the documentation on NDMP itself. I had thought that NDMP was just a backup protocol that TSM could support. It is not. It is a complete backup system itself. It requires that the drives be attached (dedicated) to it and that it write the tapes itself. This means that you need to share the library and drives (more licenses!) It also needs to manage it's own database of backup data. TSM would only provide a tape storagepool that it would be unable to make a copy of for disaster recovery. TSM would not be able to do tape reclamation on that storage pool either. Basically, it means that NDMP is another backup system to manage, one that does not have the features of TSM that make it most useful to us. As for the 3-way option that Mirapoint would like TSM to implement, it would eliminate the need for the tape drives to be directly connected to the Mirapoint box, It would instead push this off onto yet another box that would be connected to the library and tape drives. Oh, joy! another box to pay for and manage! Of course, I'm sure that they think that the TSM box would be able to house the second NDMP host, possible, but I wouldn't want to manage it. As for adding complete NDMP host capabilities to TSM, well, I expect that eventually that will happen, but not for quite a while. I would not want to use it unless TSM was then able to manage the storagepool like it does it's own. In other words, not unless disaster recovery and tape reclamation were automatically part of the process. In short, we are going to continue using a two stage process for backing up our Mirapoint boxes. We will use the Mirapoint backups to create backup files on another server and then use TSM to backup those files. If I'm wrong about any of this, I'm sure that someone will let me know. *8^) David Jelinek -Original Message- From: Jelinek, David G. Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 16:38 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: A query about NDMP support I would like to ask for some expert opinions from this group. We use MiraPoint's e-mail appliance for our student e-mail. We would like to back it up using ITSM. MiraPoint has said that it intends to qualify with TSM. They want us to push IBM/Tivoli for 3-way NDMP support in TSM. I have no idea if that's a good thing or not. The reason they said they want us to push for it is given in this snippet from a discussion list, but it makes no sense to me at all: I'd again like to stress the strong suggestion that we get the customers to press hard for IBM/Tivoli to support 3-way NDMP for TSM. This is undoubtedly the preferred method - for both customers and Mirapoint. The alternative, which would be very difficult for both Mirapoint and the customers, would be to use a direct connection to the Mirapoint. This method would require us to also qualify the tape device which is directly connected . . . that will add much time, cost and complexity Please, lets make certain that we get all of these TSM requests to be echoed back to IBM/Tivoli!!! We need 3-way NDMP support in TSM. So is 3-way NDMP a good thing to push for? Do their reason(s) make any sense, and are they valid? Or do they not understand TSM and NDMP? Thanks in advance for your opinions and advice. David Jelinek
TSM Upgrade frequency
For you folks that patch your TSM server frequently (like the individual from Oxford University who upgraded from some version to 5.1.6.0 on Feb3, then to 5.1.6.1 on Feb7, and now planning to upgrade to 5.1.6.2 within a couple weeks), how many of you have Storage Agent nodes? I am still on 4.2.1.7 simply because of the Storage Agent issue. We have a problem with TSM server crashes that is supposed to be fixed in 4.2.1.9+, but I find it hard to justify upgrading to 4.2.1.9+ when I know I will have to upgrade to 5.x soon after. According to the documentation I have read, the TSM Server version and the Storage Agent version must be at the same level. We have several Storage Agent nodes, and all of them are considered 24x7 servers, mission critical. It is like pulling teeth to get downtime for any one of them just for normal OS or Application type maint. I dread the time where I have to take them all down at once. Even more so, I dread having to take all of them down at the same time several times a month just to keep updating TSM Storage Agent versions because the TSM Server needed a patch. How do you folks with several mission critical, 24x7 servers go about doing TSM Server upgrades and TSM Storage Agent upgrades? Especially considering that TSM Server outages are best done during the day when no backups are occurring, and TSM Client Node outages are done during the night to reduce impact on the users of those Client Nodes.
Re: DB Cache Hit Rate Question
I'm a little confused about the cache hit ratio information. If I run expiration on a database, surely the TSM server has to trawl through the entire thing on disk as it does not already reside in the buffer. So how would I expect to see hit ratios of 99% or higher. I won't go into details here as I'm more interested in the process of how the database and cache work than out particular performance problems. But, as we do very little in the way of restores, surely the amount of time that a requested database file is present in the cache must be very low, so a cache hit ratio of 96-98% would make sense. Farren - If you have not yet delved into the TSM Technical Guide redbooks, you will find them excellent reading, particularly as they serve as a record of the evolution of the product. The TSM 3.7 Technical Guide in particular talks about the buffer pool size and use of Expiration as a self-tuning measure. Richard Sims, BU (home shoveling today)
Re: ANR2576W An attempt was made to update an event record for a scheduled operation which has already been executed
I have seen this exact same problem. Running 5.1.1.0 server and 5.1.1.0 client. W2K platform. I have had this problem for weeks and weeks I could not figure it out either.. Presumably a bug?? -Original Message- From: PAC Brion Arnaud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 February 2003 13:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ANR2576W An attempt was made to update an event record for a scheduled operation which has already been executed Hi list ! Could someone help me with that one : I get a client node (win2k) for which TSM reports following message every night : 02/18/03 03:29:01 ANR2576W An attempt was made to update an event record for a scheduled operation which has already been executed - multiple client schedulers may be active for node PAC2K340. I'm certain that no multiple schedulers are started on this node, but from my analyse of the logs, I believe that, as soon as the node has finished it's backup, the session hangs, due to network problem, and when restarted becomes the same schedule again, and repeats the work. Some logs, to make it clearer : TSM activity log : 18.02.2003 00:32:06 ANR2561I Schedule prompter contacting PAC2K340 (session 1369418) to start a scheduled operation. 18.02.2003 00:32:10 ANR0406I Session 1369423 started for node PAC2K340 (WinNT) (Tcp/Ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx(1401)). 18.02.2003 00:37:35 ANR0406I Session 1369771 started for node PAC2K340 (WinNT) (Tcp/Ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx(1405)). 18.02.2003 00:40:41 ANE4987E (Session: 1369771, Node: PAC2K340) Error processing 'xx': the object is in use by another process ... skipped blah-blah 18.02.2003 01:03:14 ANR0482W Session 1369423 for node PAC2K340 (WinNT) terminated - idle for more than 15 minutes. 18.02.2003 01:13:47 ANR0406I Session 1371466 started for node PAC2K340 (WinNT) (Tcp/Ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx(1423)). 18.02.2003 01:29:12 ANR0482W Session 1371466 for node PAC2K340 (WinNT) terminated - idle for more than 15 minutes. 18.02.2003 01:32:54 ANR0406I Session 1372430 started for node PAC2K340 (WinNT) (Tcp/Ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx(1430)). 18.02.2003 01:48:50 ANE4952I (Session: 1372430, Node: PAC2K340) Total number of objects inspected: 26,680 18.02.2003 01:48:50 ANE4954I (Session: 1372430, Node: PAC2K340) Total number of objects backed up:2,255 18.02.2003 01:48:50 ANE4958I (Session: 1372430, Node: PAC2K340) Total number of objects updated: 2 18.02.2003 01:48:50 ANE4960I (Session: 1372430, Node: PAC2K340) Total number of objects rebound: 0 18.02.2003 01:48:50 ANE4957I (Session: 1372430, Node: PAC2K340) Total number of objects deleted: 0 18.02.2003 01:48:50 ANE4970I (Session: 1372430, Node: PAC2K340) Total number of objects expired: 1,207 18.02.2003 01:48:50 ANE4959I (Session: 1372430, Node: PAC2K340) Total number of objects failed: 11 18.02.2003 01:48:50 ANE4961I (Session: 1372430, Node: PAC2K340) Total number of bytes transferred: 1.72 GB 18.02.2003 01:48:50 ANE4963I (Session: 1372430, Node: PAC2K340) Data transfer time:2,994.31 sec 18.02.2003 01:48:50 ANE4966I (Session: 1372430, Node: PAC2K340) Network data transfer rate: 603.65 KB/sec 18.02.2003 01:48:50 ANE4967I (Session: 1372430, Node: PAC2K340) Aggregate data transfer rate:392.95 KB/sec 18.02.2003 01:48:50 ANE4968I (Session: 1372430, Node: PAC2K340) Objects compressed by:6% 18.02.2003 01:48:50 ANE4964I (Session: 1372430, Node: PAC2K340) Elapsed processing time:00:03:39 18.02.2003 01:48:53 ANR0403I Session 1369771 ended for node PAC2K340 (WinNT). 18.02.2003 02:25:35 ANR0406I Session 1374418 started for node PAC2K340 (WinNT) (Tcp/Ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx(1083)). 18.02.2003 02:26:09 ANR0406I Session 1374443 started for node PAC2K340 (WinNT) (Tcp/Ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx(1101)). ...skipped blah-blah 18.02.2003 02:29:53 ANE4952I (Session: 1374418, Node: PAC2K340) Total number of objects inspected: 26,666 18.02.2003 02:29:53 ANE4954I (Session: 1374418, Node: PAC2K340) Total number of objects backed up:2,078 18.02.2003 02:29:53 ANE4958I (Session: 1374418, Node: PAC2K340) Total number of objects updated: 3 18.02.2003 02:29:53 ANE4960I (Session: 1374418, Node: PAC2K340) Total number of objects rebound: 0 18.02.2003 02:29:53 ANE4957I (Session: 1374418, Node: PAC2K340) Total number of
SQL TDP fails to run with scheduler
I am having trouble getting the SQL TDP v2.2.1 to run with the scheduler. Here is the system description: Both the TSM server and the SQL server are running Windows 2000 with SP3. The SQL server is running SQL 2000 patched to SP3. TSM server version 4.2.1.12 TSM BAClient version 4.2.2.8 TSM Tivoli Data Protection of Microsoft SQL Server v2.2.1.0 I installed the TDP following the install instructions and the Redbook. The directories are default. I installed a separate scheduler service using default names. The scheduler kicks off and (as you can see) quits with three error lines in the excerpt from the tdpsched.log. I can run the sqlfull.cmd manually and it runs fine each and every time. I have included the tdpsched.log, sqlfull.cmd, and dsm.opt files below. I set this TSM install as close as I could to an another, existing server where the TDP works great. I have tried to remark out items in the dsm.opt file (which I think is where the complains are coming from). I have recreated the dsm.opt and sqlfull.cmd files in case they were somehow corrupted. When I redid the dsm.opt file, I used a copy of the sample file to start with and modified to what you see. I looked at ADSM.org for help as well as the IBM Tivoli sites. I cannot find anything that is relevant. I first installed the v2.2.0 with the 4.2.28 baclient. Then I upgraded to version 2.2.1.0. Same outcome with both versions. Any ideas would be most appreciated. Here are the log and file excerpts: TDPSCHED.LOG 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Executing scheduled command now. 02/18/2003 02:37:35 ANS1038S Invalid option specified 02/18/2003 02:37:35 ANS1820E Command line options must be preceded by a '-' 02/18/2003 02:37:35 ANS1512E Scheduled event 'ENTERPRISE_SQL_BACKUP' failed. Return code = 4. 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Sending results for scheduled event 'ENTERPRISE_SQL_BACKUP'. 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Node Name: CIONISQL001_SQL 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Session established with server CIONITSM001: Windows NT 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Server Version 4, Release 2, Level 1.12 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Server date/time: 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Last access: 02/17/2003 20:42:35 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Results sent to server for scheduled event 'ENTERPRISE_SQL_BACKUP'. 02/18/2003 02:37:35 ANS1483I Schedule log pruning started. 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Schedule Log Prune: 684 lines processed. 104 lines pruned. 02/18/2003 02:37:35 ANS1484I Schedule log pruning finished successfully. 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Querying server for next scheduled event. 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Node Name: CIONISQL001_SQL 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Session established with server CIONITSM001: Windows NT 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Server Version 4, Release 2, Level 1.12 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Server date/time: 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Last access: 02/18/2003 02:37:35 02/18/2003 02:37:35 --- SCHEDULEREC QUERY BEGIN 02/18/2003 02:37:35 --- SCHEDULEREC QUERY END 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Next operation scheduled: 02/18/2003 02:37:35 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Schedule Name: ENTERPRISE_SQL_BACKUP 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Action:Command 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Objects: 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Options: c:\progra~1\tivoli\tsm\tdpsql\sqlfull.cmd 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Server Window Start: 02:30:00 on 02/19/2003 02/18/2003 02:37:35 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Schedule will be refreshed in 6 hours. SQLFULL.CMD @ECHO OFF set sql_dir=C:\Progra~1\Tivoli\TSM\TDPSql C: cd %sql_dir% date NUL %sql_dir%\sqlsched.log time NUL %sql_dir%\sqlsched.log %sql_dir%\tdpsqlc backup * full /tsmoptfile=%sql_dir%\dsm.opt /logfile=%sql_dir%\sqlfull.log %sql_dir%\sqlsched.log DSM.OPT *==* * * * Tivoli Data Protection for Microsoft SQL Server * * * * 2/17/03 by PH* * * *==* NODename CIONISQL001_SQL CLUSTERnode no COMPRESSIon Off PASSWORDAccessGenerate *==* * TCP/IP * *==* COMMMethod TCPip TCPPort 1500 TCPServeraddresscionitsm001 TCPWindowsize 63 TCPBuffSize 32 * following items remed out or changed 2/17/02 by PH for testing *TCPBuffSize256 *txnbytelimit25600 *largecommbuffersyes *tcpnodelay yes *resourceutilization 3 *commrestartduration 120 *commrestartinterval 60
Re: Recovery log
Hi Mark, You are probably suffering from so called log pinning symptom. To make it short : log is working on a circular basis, and can only be freed if all transactions that where written into it are commited to TSM DB. If not done, you reach a point where the log bites it's own tail : older record are not freed, therefore making it impossible to create new ones, and the server dies. This is generally due to very long transactions, as for example huge or slow archives (probably your case). The antidote : extend your log, or modify Trougputdatathreshold and trougputtimethreshold options value in dsmserv.opt, to kill automatically the sessions having too low troughput during too much time. Another one would be switchin to normal logmode, if currently using rollforward, but this has it's own bad sides ... Anyway, do a search on topic pinned log in this list, and you'll find lots of responses to your question ! Hope it helped ... Arnaud =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | Arnaud Brion, Panalpina Management Ltd., IT Group | | Viaduktstrasse 42, P.O. Box, 4002 Basel - Switzerland | | Phone: +41 61 226 19 78 / Fax: +41 61 226 17 01 | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -Original Message- From: Mark Hayden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 18 February, 2003 16:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Recovery log HI all, We have had some issues with our recovery log filling up during archives. Our Db is growing at an a alarming speed , about 82 % of a 41 Gb db. Our log is only a gig in size..Is this to small This seams to happen during remote archives across the Wan...Could this play a role? Thanks, Mark Hayden Informations Systems Analyst E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stop Bagging TSM Developers.
I'm sure being a TSM developer isn't much fun these days - I can sympathize with them a bit from the aspect of some things being out of their control. I have been writing some scripts for TSM this morning, and I'm in a bit of a bad mood - hence the snipe at the developers. Now that I'm venting up on the soapbox as it were, I'd like to say this - I can remember a couple of times seeing it requested on this list that we be able to disable the Copyright headers that are displayed when doing commandline functions with the admin client. I would think that would be a fairly simple thing to implement. Perhaps a command line switch to eliminate the header and trailer... If we just can't be eliminated, could it at least be made a consistent length between the -tabdelimited, -commadelimited and unformatted output? On another note, I just spent a week in training for another vendor's product and friends, the grass looks lot less greener over there... OK, I'm off the soapbox. I'll shut up. In three months I'll be wishing this was the worst I had to complain about. -Original Message- From: Kauffman, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Stop Bagging TSM Developers. And for my 2 cents worth, I see this as a TSM management and not development problem. There seems to be no regression test suite, and no change control/revision control process. Tom Kauffman NIBCO, Inc. -Original Message- From: Jolliff, Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 9:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Stop Bagging TSM Developers. Just my opinion, but based on the bug releases of late, they are doing a pretty good bagging job on their own.
Re: AW: Ndmp Backup to primary Diskpool
NDMP backups will go directly to dedicated tape drives . Stefan Holzwarth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/18/2003 03:17 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:AW: Ndmp Backup to primary Diskpool I want to put the ndmp datastream on diskpools (type file or disk), but i don't know whether it's possible. Regards Stefan holzwarth -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: PINNI, BALANAND (SBCSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet: Montag, 17. Februar 2003 20:43 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: Ndmp Backup to primary Diskpool Hi If u have filer .Then u should we using ndmpcopy utility on Filer.To copy between volumes on Filer or across filers. I did this recently. Thanks Balanand Pinni -Original Message- From: Stefan Holzwarth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 8:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Ndmp Backup to primary Diskpool I think about the following environment: TSM Server on Windows2000 with 5 * 2 TByte Primary diskpools on FC Raids (with IDE Disk internal - RAID 5) and 5 * 2 TByte Copy diskpools on FC Raids (with IDE Disk internal - RAID 5) TSM DB on lokal RAID 10 with total 8 disks Together with other NT Systems I want to backup our filer (4TB) over NDMP to that diskpools. Since i have no experience with NDMP (we have TSM on MVS) i wonder whether that config is possible. Does the datastream goe over FC or ip? Kind regards, Stefan Holzwarth -- Stefan Holzwarth ADAC e.V. (Informationsverarbeitung - Systemtechnik - Basisdienste) Am Westpark 8, 81373 München, Tel.: (089) 7676-5212, Fax: (089) 76768924 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SQL TDP fails to run with scheduler
Philip, What does your TSM Server schedule definition look like? Is the SQLFULL.CMD being executed at all? I would bet that it isn't. Take a closer look at the schedule definition to see if there is a problem with it. One example, I have seen is that if there is a space in the path name to the SQLFULL.CMD and you did not put the proper quotes around it. If this is the case look back a the archives of this list and you will a solution to that problem. Thanks, Del Del Hoobler IBM Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Remember that the best job security is doing a job well and doing it cheerfully. === Executing scheduled command now. 02/18/2003 02:37:35 ANS1038S Invalid option specified 02/18/2003 02:37:35 ANS1820E Command line options must be preceded by a ' -' 02/18/2003 02:37:35 ANS1512E Scheduled event 'ENTERPRISE_SQL_BACKUP' failed. Return code = 4. 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Sending results for scheduled event 'ENTERPRISE_SQL_BACKUP'.
ENC: SQL TDP fails to run with scheduler
Philip, Attention for the parameter OPTIONS The configuration file progra~1\tivoli\tsm\tdpsql\sqlfull.cmd it must be placed in OBJECTS ... OK! 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Schedule Name: ENTERPRISE_SQL_BACKUP 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Action:Command 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Objects: 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Options: c:\progra~1\tivoli\tsm\tdpsql\sqlfull.cmd --- 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Server Window Start: 02:30:00 on 02/19/2003 02/18/2003 02:37:35 CORRECT FORM Policy Domain Name: Schedule Name: ENTERPRISE_SQL_BACKUP Description: Action: Command Options: Objects: c:\progra~1\tivoli\tsm\tdpsql\sqlfull.cmd - Priority: -- Start Date/Time: -- Duration: -- Period: -- Day of Week: -- Expiration: Last Update by (administrator): ADMIN Last Update Date/Time: -- Managing profile: King regards, Elenara ® Elenara Geraldo TSM Administrator Phone : 55 41 381 7849 Cellular: 55 44 91077262 -Mensagem original- De: Hamlin, Philip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Enviada em: terça-feira, 18 de fevereiro de 2003 14:03 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Assunto: SQL TDP fails to run with scheduler I am having trouble getting the SQL TDP v2.2.1 to run with the scheduler. Here is the system description: Both the TSM server and the SQL server are running Windows 2000 with SP3. The SQL server is running SQL 2000 patched to SP3. TSM server version 4.2.1.12 TSM BAClient version 4.2.2.8 TSM Tivoli Data Protection of Microsoft SQL Server v2.2.1.0 I installed the TDP following the install instructions and the Redbook. The directories are default. I installed a separate scheduler service using default names. The scheduler kicks off and (as you can see) quits with three error lines in the excerpt from the tdpsched.log. I can run the sqlfull.cmd manually and it runs fine each and every time. I have included the tdpsched.log, sqlfull.cmd, and dsm.opt files below. I set this TSM install as close as I could to an another, existing server where the TDP works great. I have tried to remark out items in the dsm.opt file (which I think is where the complains are coming from). I have recreated the dsm.opt and sqlfull.cmd files in case they were somehow corrupted. When I redid the dsm.opt file, I used a copy of the sample file to start with and modified to what you see. I looked at ADSM.org for help as well as the IBM Tivoli sites. I cannot find anything that is relevant. I first installed the v2.2.0 with the 4.2.28 baclient. Then I upgraded to version 2.2.1.0. Same outcome with both versions. Any ideas would be most appreciated. Here are the log and file excerpts: TDPSCHED.LOG 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Executing scheduled command now. 02/18/2003 02:37:35 ANS1038S Invalid option specified 02/18/2003 02:37:35 ANS1820E Command line options must be preceded by a '-' 02/18/2003 02:37:35 ANS1512E Scheduled event 'ENTERPRISE_SQL_BACKUP' failed. Return code = 4. 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Sending results for scheduled event 'ENTERPRISE_SQL_BACKUP'. 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Node Name: CIONISQL001_SQL 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Session established with server CIONITSM001: Windows NT 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Server Version 4, Release 2, Level 1.12 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Server date/time: 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Last access: 02/17/2003 20:42:35 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Results sent to server for scheduled event 'ENTERPRISE_SQL_BACKUP'. 02/18/2003 02:37:35 ANS1483I Schedule log pruning started. 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Schedule Log Prune: 684 lines processed. 104 lines pruned. 02/18/2003 02:37:35 ANS1484I Schedule log pruning finished successfully. 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Querying server for next scheduled event. 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Node Name: CIONISQL001_SQL 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Session established with server CIONITSM001: Windows NT 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Server Version 4, Release 2, Level 1.12 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Server date/time: 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Last access: 02/18/2003 02:37:35 02/18/2003 02:37:35 --- SCHEDULEREC QUERY BEGIN 02/18/2003 02:37:35 --- SCHEDULEREC QUERY END 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Next operation scheduled: 02/18/2003 02:37:35 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Schedule Name: ENTERPRISE_SQL_BACKUP 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Action:Command 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Objects: 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Options: c:\progra~1\tivoli\tsm\tdpsql\sqlfull.cmd 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Server Window Start: 02:30:00 on 02/19/2003 02/18/2003 02:37:35 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Schedule will be refreshed in 6 hours.
Re: Tape Reliability Recommendations
-Original Message- From: Kelly J. Lipp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 10:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Tape Reliability Recommendations As for reliability. That turns out to be a very mixed bag. ...snip... For instance, we have a site with a large fiber channel and LTO configuration. No end to the problems so far and they are very serious problems. Is this a result of the tape technology? I doubt it, but one never knows, do one?\ I would be very curious to hear what type of reliability problems you have seen with LTO. I have posted here before, but we have been experiencing an incredibly high number of read errors with our 3584 LTO library. We regularly see errors when trying to restore data from tapes. We have been auditing volumes recently and have seen errors on a tape during one audit, and then audit again, with no errors. There is no discernable pattern to these errors (across multiple tapes and multiple drives). Due to the nature of the data we are backing up, the data does not change often (and therefore the tapes are generally written to once, and the data stays there), so over-used tapes should not be an issue. Anything that you could share with the list, or me directly, would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Peter Peter Ford System Engineer Stentor, Inc. 5000 Marina Blvd, Brisbane, CA 94005-1811 Main Phone: 650-228- Fax: 650 228-5566 http://www.stentor.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DB Cache Hit Rate Question
Farren, I'm not sure exactly how the TSM database internals work, but typically a database cache is populated with cache prefetch. This isn't _exactly_ correct, but it'll do conceptually. The db goes to read one row (check a file for expiration). That one db row request loads one or more blocks/pages of db into the cache. Those blocks contain many other rows, so most of the next few thousand file checks get cache hits in the prefetched cached blocks. Hope this helps. Alex Paschal Freightliner, LLC (503) 745-6850 phone/vmail -Original Message- From: Farren Minns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DB Cache Hit Rate Question Good afternoon all TSMers. I'm a little confused about the cache hit ratio information. If I run expiration on a database, surely the TSM server has to trawl through the entire thing on disk as it does not already reside in the buffer. So how would I expect to see hit ratios of 99% or higher. I won't go into details here as I'm more interested in the process of how the database and cache work than out particular performance problems. But, as we do very little in the way of restores, surely the amount of time that a requested database file is present in the cache must be very low, so a cache hit ratio of 96-98% would make sense. Please forgive my ignorance here as I'm not a expert in this field at all. Many thanks in advance All the best Farren Minns John Wiley Sons Ltd
Re: 5.1.6.2 is out
Just upgraded our [AIX433 ML10] TSM Server from 415 to 5162 yesterday. No problems to speak of so far and the upgrade went suprisingly smooth. Thanks; Theresa [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/18/03 10:06AM This morning I've seen email asking us to lay off IBM. Does anyone have any further experience with any level of 5.1.6 that can convince anyone it's stable? Is anyone on 5.1.5x satified with that delivery? Is anyone who is on 5.1.6.0 satisfied with the delivery? Is anyone on 5.1.6.1 satisfied with that delivery? Is anyone ready to move to 5.1.6.2? Geoff Gill TSM Administrator NT Systems Support Engineer SAIC E-Mail:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (858) 826-4062 Pager: (877) 905-7154
Re: Tape Reliability Recommendations
I would be very curious to hear what type of reliability problems you have seen with LTO. I have posted here before, but we have been experiencing an incredibly high number of read errors with our 3584 LTO library. We regularly see errors when trying to restore data from tapes. We have been auditing volumes recently and have seen errors on a tape during one audit, and then audit again, with no errors. There is no discernable pattern to these errors (across multiple tapes and multiple drives). Due to the nature of the data we are backing up, the data does not change often (and therefore the tapes are generally written to once, and the data stays there), so over-used tapes should not be an issue. I can name without much thinking 5 to 6 customers with either a 3583 or 3584 with lots of errors on tapes. For the 3583 this is due to the quality of the library. For the 3584 we got better since microcode 25D4 is installed on the (fc) drives. The library we keep on fw 2460. Since that time we saw that the IBM engineers did not have to come every week onsite to replace drives where stuck tapes were locked inside. We also found out it is not a matter of tapebrands, the IBM or the Imation give an equal amout of errors. I think it can only solved by keep checking and doing audits on volumes, in some envrioment we even moved the data of the tape and removed that tapecartridge. Another thing about reliability is the internal storwatch specialist which is running, or not, oh yes it works,, no it does not Even setting everything to 10mbit half duplex did not solve this issue. I would move the data from tape to tape every year to avoid tapeproblems. good luck Peter
RES: SQL TDP fails to run with scheduler
Philip, Attention for the parameter OPTIONS The configuration file progra~1\tivoli\tsm\tdpsql\sqlfull.cmd it must be placed in OBJECTS ... OK! 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Schedule Name: ENTERPRISE_SQL_BACKUP 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Action:Command 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Objects: 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Options: c:\progra~1\tivoli\tsm\tdpsql\sqlfull.cmd --- 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Server Window Start: 02:30:00 on 02/19/2003 02/18/2003 02:37:35 CORRECT FORM Policy Domain Name: Schedule Name: ENTERPRISE_SQL_BACKUP Description: Action: Command Options: Objects: c:\tsmboticario\optfiles\diario\sqlfull.cmd Priority: -- Start Date/Time: -- Duration: -- Period: -- Day of Week: -- Expiration: Last Update by (administrator): ADMIN Last Update Date/Time: -- Managing profile: King regards, Elenara ® Elenara Geraldo TSM Administrator Phone : 55 41 381 7849 Cellular: 55 44 91077262 -Mensagem original- De: Hamlin, Philip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Enviada em: terça-feira, 18 de fevereiro de 2003 14:03 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Assunto: SQL TDP fails to run with scheduler I am having trouble getting the SQL TDP v2.2.1 to run with the scheduler. Here is the system description: Both the TSM server and the SQL server are running Windows 2000 with SP3. The SQL server is running SQL 2000 patched to SP3. TSM server version 4.2.1.12 TSM BAClient version 4.2.2.8 TSM Tivoli Data Protection of Microsoft SQL Server v2.2.1.0 I installed the TDP following the install instructions and the Redbook. The directories are default. I installed a separate scheduler service using default names. The scheduler kicks off and (as you can see) quits with three error lines in the excerpt from the tdpsched.log. I can run the sqlfull.cmd manually and it runs fine each and every time. I have included the tdpsched.log, sqlfull.cmd, and dsm.opt files below. I set this TSM install as close as I could to an another, existing server where the TDP works great. I have tried to remark out items in the dsm.opt file (which I think is where the complains are coming from). I have recreated the dsm.opt and sqlfull.cmd files in case they were somehow corrupted. When I redid the dsm.opt file, I used a copy of the sample file to start with and modified to what you see. I looked at ADSM.org for help as well as the IBM Tivoli sites. I cannot find anything that is relevant. I first installed the v2.2.0 with the 4.2.28 baclient. Then I upgraded to version 2.2.1.0. Same outcome with both versions. Any ideas would be most appreciated. Here are the log and file excerpts: TDPSCHED.LOG 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Executing scheduled command now. 02/18/2003 02:37:35 ANS1038S Invalid option specified 02/18/2003 02:37:35 ANS1820E Command line options must be preceded by a '-' 02/18/2003 02:37:35 ANS1512E Scheduled event 'ENTERPRISE_SQL_BACKUP' failed. Return code = 4. 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Sending results for scheduled event 'ENTERPRISE_SQL_BACKUP'. 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Node Name: CIONISQL001_SQL 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Session established with server CIONITSM001: Windows NT 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Server Version 4, Release 2, Level 1.12 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Server date/time: 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Last access: 02/17/2003 20:42:35 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Results sent to server for scheduled event 'ENTERPRISE_SQL_BACKUP'. 02/18/2003 02:37:35 ANS1483I Schedule log pruning started. 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Schedule Log Prune: 684 lines processed. 104 lines pruned. 02/18/2003 02:37:35 ANS1484I Schedule log pruning finished successfully. 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Querying server for next scheduled event. 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Node Name: CIONISQL001_SQL 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Session established with server CIONITSM001: Windows NT 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Server Version 4, Release 2, Level 1.12 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Server date/time: 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Last access: 02/18/2003 02:37:35 02/18/2003 02:37:35 --- SCHEDULEREC QUERY BEGIN 02/18/2003 02:37:35 --- SCHEDULEREC QUERY END 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Next operation scheduled: 02/18/2003 02:37:35 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Schedule Name: ENTERPRISE_SQL_BACKUP 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Action:Command 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Objects: 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Options: c:\progra~1\tivoli\tsm\tdpsql\sqlfull.cmd 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Server Window Start: 02:30:00 on 02/19/2003 02/18/2003 02:37:35 02/18/2003 02:37:35 Schedule will be refreshed in 6 hours.
Re: 5.1.6.2 is out
Hi, I upgraded approx 3-4 weeks ago from 4.2.x to 5.1.6.0. (AIX 433 server) I had intermittently the node table access crashes everyone else did. IBM thought that had been fixed, and worked very diligently with me to get core dumps, and information to discover the problem. They called me shortly after to say that 5.1.6.1 was out and would fix my problem. I installed it right away, and the problem was fixed. I have always been very happy with IBM support - and I have never been left without at least a work-around until a patch was available. Compared to other software companies I deal with - IBM is a dream! Jane Bamberger Bassett Healthcare -Original Message- From: Gill, Geoffrey L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 11:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 5.1.6.2 is out This morning I've seen email asking us to lay off IBM. Does anyone have any further experience with any level of 5.1.6 that can convince anyone it's stable? Is anyone on 5.1.5x satified with that delivery? Is anyone who is on 5.1.6.0 satisfied with the delivery? Is anyone on 5.1.6.1 satisfied with that delivery? Is anyone ready to move to 5.1.6.2? Geoff Gill TSM Administrator NT Systems Support Engineer SAIC E-Mail:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (858) 826-4062 Pager: (877) 905-7154
Re: Semote storage pool
On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 10:22:35AM -0600, Stapleton, Mark wrote: Why would you want to do this? Disk (particularly local disk) is cheap these days. The lag resultant from Windows drive mappings or (shudder!) NFS mounts will greatly slow your throughput. Offsite storage? -- Best Regards Emil S. Hansen - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ESH14-DK UNIX Administrator, Berlingske IT - www.bit.dk PGP: 109375FA/ABEB 1EFA A764 529E 82B5 0943 AD3B 1FC2 1093 75FA Gravity can not be held responsible for people falling in love. - Albert Einstein
5.1.6.2 is out
This morning I've seen email asking us to lay off IBM. Does anyone have any further experience with any level of 5.1.6 that can convince anyone it's stable? Is anyone on 5.1.5x satified with that delivery? Is anyone who is on 5.1.6.0 satisfied with the delivery? Is anyone on 5.1.6.1 satisfied with that delivery? Is anyone ready to move to 5.1.6.2? Geoff Gill TSM Administrator NT Systems Support Engineer SAIC E-Mail:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (858) 826-4062 Pager: (877) 905-7154
Mixing 3590E and 3590K volumes
My 3494 is filled with 3590E carts. If I were to use 3590K carts, my robot wouldn't be so filled. This is the current definition of the DEVC TAPE: Device Class Name: TAPE Device Access Strategy: Sequential Storage Pool Count: 8 Device Type: 3590 Format: DRIVE Est/Max Capacity (MB): Mount Limit: 7 Mount Wait (min): 60 Mount Retention (min): 2 If I were to start introducing the longer format carts into my system, would TSM use them interchangeably with the old ones, i.e., would reclamation write 2 Es on a K and 1/2 a K on an E, or would I have to have two separate device classes? TIA
Re: Stop Bagging TSM Developers.
A workaround is to create a macro file of the command(s) you want, and redirect each of them to a file. Them run DSMADMC with MACRO macrofile and the results will be without the headers. I like to use -TAB and -ITEMCOMMIT options. like this: Q ACT BEGINT=-01:00 QACT.TXT and you'll get your output, tab delimited without the headers. A co-worker turned me on to this. I've used this in several Perl scripts to product activity reports. Bill Boyer Hit any user to continue! - ??? -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jolliff, Dale Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 12:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Stop Bagging TSM Developers. I'm sure being a TSM developer isn't much fun these days - I can sympathize with them a bit from the aspect of some things being out of their control. I have been writing some scripts for TSM this morning, and I'm in a bit of a bad mood - hence the snipe at the developers. Now that I'm venting up on the soapbox as it were, I'd like to say this - I can remember a couple of times seeing it requested on this list that we be able to disable the Copyright headers that are displayed when doing commandline functions with the admin client. I would think that would be a fairly simple thing to implement. Perhaps a command line switch to eliminate the header and trailer... If we just can't be eliminated, could it at least be made a consistent length between the -tabdelimited, -commadelimited and unformatted output? On another note, I just spent a week in training for another vendor's product and friends, the grass looks lot less greener over there... OK, I'm off the soapbox. I'll shut up. In three months I'll be wishing this was the worst I had to complain about. -Original Message- From: Kauffman, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Stop Bagging TSM Developers. And for my 2 cents worth, I see this as a TSM management and not development problem. There seems to be no regression test suite, and no change control/revision control process. Tom Kauffman NIBCO, Inc. -Original Message- From: Jolliff, Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 9:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Stop Bagging TSM Developers. Just my opinion, but based on the bug releases of late, they are doing a pretty good bagging job on their own.
Re: Semote storage pool
On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 10:22:35AM -0600, Stapleton, Mark wrote: Why would you want to do this? Disk (particularly local disk) is cheap these days. The lag resultant from Windows drive mappings or (shudder!) NFS mounts will greatly slow your throughput. From: Emil S. Hansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Offsite storage? It doesn't matter how you use it. Forcing TSM to work its I/O at network speeds when it is designed to work at bus speeds will show badly. You'll be disappointed. -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Tivoli pubs email address evaporated
Hi Zlatko, I understand your and everyone else's frustration. When it comes to the TSM product code, ADSM-L is one of the best places to be because your message gets to people who write the code. In a similar fashion, the feedback mechanism that I mentioned yesterday will enable your message about the books and the web site to get to the people who manage the books and the web site. While we in development make a best effort to carry this kind of feedback to the right people, the feedback is now second-hand, and as such, it tends to get diluted. So I would recommend that you use the web site's feedback mechanism to provide feedback on the web site and the books. Please note that I am not trying to be dismissive of these legitimate issues; I am only trying to help point you to the place where your voice is likely to have a greater impact. Best regards, Andy P.S. APAR IC35702 has been opened to address the documentation problem that was created when the pubs email address went away. Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (change eye to i to reply) The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. Andy, please do not assume its personal to you - you just brought the bad news, not created them. Actually those web folks (not we) ought to submit in this case a long list of requests for doc-updates. Each book contains the hard to redirect address. I would bet some other books have already been submitted for publishing and also contain the wrong address. At least my docs for ITSM 5.1 contain it (and are less than a year old). Why is so hard to redirect this address for a year or two before discontinuing it?! Or IBM is losing control over tivoli.com domain? Regarding Steve's recent post I will not throw all the mud on developers. But for sure can complain about management of tivoli.com to ibm.com transition (despite all help and communications from Luiz Nevarez). Zlatko Krastev IT Consultant
Q BA syntax on *nix
Please feel free to point me to the documentation if I've overlooked something here, but I'm running into a brick wall... Client version 5.1.5.5 Client OS - AIX 5.1 ML 02 Server version 5.1.5.4 Server OS - AIX 5.1 ML 02 I've been asked to produce a list of all current files that are backed up on two particular AIX nodes. Based on the syntax described in the manual, when logged in as root, I enter the command q ba -subdir=y /* expecting to get a list of all files from the / directory on down. However, what I get appears to be all of the file in the / filespace. When I enter another FS name in place of the /* filespec, /u06/* for example, the files in that filesystem are displayed. Is there a way to display all files backed up using q ba without explicitly listing each FS by name in a separate command (for example with a macro)? Thanks, Ted
Re: Semote storage pool
On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 04:46:05PM -0500, Remeta, Mark wrote: It doesn't matter how you use it. Forcing TSM to work its I/O at network speeds when it is designed to work at bus speeds will show badly. You'll be disappointed. I agree.. besides that's what off-site copy pools are for! I have a 1 Gbit link between my primary site and my backup site, and I'm actully consindering using a Linux box with a lot of disk space NFS mounted on my TSM server as copypool, just to scratch the complexity of offsite tape managment. I don't see the big difference between network speed and bus speed when I'm running Gbit network, can you elaborate? -- Best Regards Emil S. Hansen - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ESH14-DK UNIX Administrator, Berlingske IT - www.bit.dk PGP: 109375FA/ABEB 1EFA A764 529E 82B5 0943 AD3B 1FC2 1093 75FA Gravity can not be held responsible for people falling in love. - Albert Einstein
Re: Tape Reliability Recommendations
We were getting a fair amount of 36 errors on our 3584 and they corresponded to I/O errors I was seeing in TSM. After talking to IBM and our CE, we wound up updating our library firmware to 3060 and (knock on wood) we haven't seen any errors since. Library 3584 4 fiber attached LTO drives Library firmware: 3060 Drive firmware: 25D4 TSM server 5.1.1.6 Greg Redell Great-West Life Annuity Insurance Co. Phone: 314-525-5877 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-+ | | Peter Ford | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | M | | | Sent by: ADSM: | | | Dist Stor| | | Manager | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | .EDU| | || | || | | 02/18/2003 12:43 | | | PM | | | Please respond to| | | ADSM: Dist Stor | | | Manager | |-+ --| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: Re: Tape Reliability Recommendations | --| -Original Message- From: Kelly J. Lipp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 10:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Tape Reliability Recommendations As for reliability. That turns out to be a very mixed bag. ...snip... For instance, we have a site with a large fiber channel and LTO configuration. No end to the problems so far and they are very serious problems. Is this a result of the tape technology? I doubt it, but one never knows, do one?\ I would be very curious to hear what type of reliability problems you have seen with LTO. I have posted here before, but we have been experiencing an incredibly high number of read errors with our 3584 LTO library. We regularly see errors when trying to restore data from tapes. We have been auditing volumes recently and have seen errors on a tape during one audit, and then audit again, with no errors. There is no discernable pattern to these errors (across multiple tapes and multiple drives). Due to the nature of the data we are backing up, the data does not change often (and therefore the tapes are generally written to once, and the data stays there), so over-used tapes should not be an issue. Anything that you could share with the list, or me directly, would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Peter Peter Ford System Engineer Stentor, Inc. 5000 Marina Blvd, Brisbane, CA 94005-1811 Main Phone: 650-228- Fax: 650 228-5566 http://www.stentor.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tape Reliability Recommendations
I have done a significant amount of testing and have quite a lot of practical experience with what I will refer to as the Big Three tape technologies: AIT3 LTO1 SDLT320 Of the three, I know AIT the best. It's always good to know where someone sits before they tell you where they stand. In a TSM environment, all three of these technologies perform very similarly: within 10-15% of each other. Don't let the manufacturer's performance claims sway your decision. Backup is generally not about the hardware but more about the software. TSM is quite powerful, but often trades power for speed. Remember, we have a sophisticated database running here to track what's going on. For all three drives, we are able to sustain between 35 and 45 GBytes per hour during storage pool to storage pool operations. For instance, migration from Disk to Tape or Backup stg tape to tape. In addition, you can expect to see about the same performance when clients are writing data directly to tape (or even multiple tapes simultaneously while using the stg pool parameter copystgpool). When sizing an environment, use the 35 GB/Hour number and you won't be unhappy. As for reliability. That turns out to be a very mixed bag. I have seen sites with high volumes of data and no errors or problems with all three and I have seen sites with numerous problems. The problems seem to be mostly related to drive firmware levels and tape batches. Once the drive firmware is correct and bad tapes are eliminated, most sites settle down nicely. The more complex the environment, the more likely the problems. For instance, we have a site with a large fiber channel and LTO configuration. No end to the problems so far and they are very serious problems. Is this a result of the tape technology? I doubt it, but one never knows, do one?\ Due to the nature of AIT3, I would suspect that overall reliability numbers will be lower than for LTO and SDLT, but my hands-on experience doesn't show that. As for Automation. There are gazillions of libraries for each technology. Clear winners in my opinion are Qualstar and perhaps IBM. I give the IBM libraries a perhaps as we have had very good experience with the 349x libraries and only limited experience with 3584. These seem OK, but not much experience. The lower end IBM libraries are based on someone else's technology so I would think one might get a better deal buying direct from that manufacturer. Compatibility with previous technology. Some DLT bigots are SDLT bigots because they believe in investment protection. I think that's balderdash as very few people would ever try to read a DLT tape with an SDLT drive anyway so what difference does it make? All three of these are relatively new technologies and you are going to switch to one anyway, so investigate all three. The all important Kelly recommendation: For value, AIT3 is unsurpassed: very good performance, relatively inexpensive, great automation, manufactured by one company so technology is first rate. For openness (or perceived openness) LTO: excellent performance, reasonably priced, so-so automation, standards based and built by more than one manufacturer (but how many of us are going to buy from more than one anyway and if you attend presentations by each one about their LTO product you come away from each one in succession thinking you have found the best, i.e., they all lie equally convincingly (probably shouldn't have two ly words in the same sentence)). For perceived technical excellence, SDLT: Quantum has very neat technology in their drives. Does it matter much? Probably not, but cool anyway. So: For the price conscious: AIT3 going to AIT4 when available. If you're an Open kind of dude: LTO If you believe in Quantum: SDLT. They offer a very good product IMHO. LTO and SDLT will be very close in price so go with your gut. As always, study, study, study. Get input from those you respect. Choose wisely and then get and stay behind your choice. STORServer supports all three technologies equally. Views expressed here are my own. Kelly J. Lipp STORServer, Inc. 485-B Elkton Drive Colorado Springs, CO 80907 [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.storsol.com or www.storserver.com (719)531-5926 Fax: (240)539-7175 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Colby Morgan Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 3:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Tape Reliability Recommendations We are currently running TSM 5.1.5 on Win2k with an IBM Mammoth-2 drive for offsite copypools. We have had problems with both our onsite M2 and offsite M2 drives at our disaster recovery center. IBM has replaced the drive more than a dozen times in the last two years and Exabyte has replaced countless tapes. Most recently we are experiencing a high rate of media write failures on a newly replaced drive as well as media read failures in DR testing, both using brand new 225m AME media. Is
Re: Semote storage pool
I know but my customer want to do that. In fact, he bought two new servers, one with W2K and one with linux, and planned to install TSM on the linux server, but it is so complicated that we decided to install it on the W2K server. And we have 200 Gb on the Linux Server and 70 Gb on W2K So we would like to have a primary storage pool on the W2K machine and the next storage pool on the linux box. The storage on the linux box should be used very rarely. But in fact the real problem is that my customer doesn't want to tell his manager that he choosed the server a little bit too quickly and I don't wan't his manager to think that we let him make his choice too quickly. So if I can find a proper way to use what he bought without buying anything else, everything will be perfect. I realize that these reasons aren't very good reasons, but I must do it like that. I would have prefered to have someone listening to me and thinking a little bit before making his decisions, but it is not the case so I must do with that. And anyway, the performances are not very important for this customer, what he wants is to have a reliable backup system and for that, TSM is a good solution I think. Etienne GUILLAUMONT e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] RGB Technologie Parc d'Innovation, Bâtiment PYTHAGORE 11 Rue Jean SAPIDUS 67400 ILLKIRCH Tél : 03 90 40 60 60 Fax : 03 90 40 60 61 Stapleton, MarkTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] stapleto@BERcc: BEE.COM Subject: Re: Semote storage pool Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] RIST.EDU 18/02/2003 17:22 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager From: GUILLAUMONT Etienne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I would like to know if it is possible to have a storage pool on a remote machine without installing TSM on it. Typically, what I wan't to do is to use space on a remote server to have a disk or a file storage pool on it. I tried with a file device class and it allows only local disks. A disk devices class goes a little further, but when it tries to format the volume, there's an error. One possibility would be to create a local file storage pool and then to copy the files on the remote servers and put the file volumes in offline state, or something like that, but is there something easier ? I tried that with TSM 5.1.5 Why would you want to do this? Disk (particularly local
Re: Mixing 3590E and 3590K volumes
If your 3590 drives have the green 2x sticker on the back of them (open the cabinet and look), they can support K cartridges. 3590H drives can support K-Carts. The K carts have a different knotch configuration than the J cartridges. There is no issue with having a mixed bag except it throws off your estimated capacity numbers. The K cartridges also require Turtle cases to ship them if you intend to use certified cases. They are a lot more sensitive to being damaged. Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Northrop Grumman Information Technology 757-688-8180 -Original Message- From: Fred Johanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 2:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mixing 3590E and 3590K volumes My 3494 is filled with 3590E carts. If I were to use 3590K carts, my robot wouldn't be so filled. This is the current definition of the DEVC TAPE: Device Class Name: TAPE Device Access Strategy: Sequential Storage Pool Count: 8 Device Type: 3590 Format: DRIVE Est/Max Capacity (MB): Mount Limit: 7 Mount Wait (min): 60 Mount Retention (min): 2 If I were to start introducing the longer format carts into my system, would TSM use them interchangeably with the old ones, i.e., would reclamation write 2 Es on a K and 1/2 a K on an E, or would I have to have two separate device classes? TIA
Re: Mixing 3590E and 3590K volumes
My 3494 is filled with 3590E carts. Well, you have something I've never seen... I know about 3590J tapes, and 3590K tapes, but never seen a 3590E tape. ;-) If I were to start introducing the longer format carts into my system, would TSM use them interchangeably with the old ones, i.e., would reclamation write 2 Es on a K and 1/2 a K on an E, or would I have to have two separate device classes? Conceptually, yes. But you would need 3590E drives for the K tapes. Richard Sims, BU
Re: Stop Bagging TSM Developers.
Perhaps a command line switch to eliminate the header and trailer... Watch for an option to display just the data in an upcoming release. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (change eye to i to reply) The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. Jolliff, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/18/2003 10:07 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Stop Bagging TSM Developers. I'm sure being a TSM developer isn't much fun these days - I can sympathize with them a bit from the aspect of some things being out of their control. I have been writing some scripts for TSM this morning, and I'm in a bit of a bad mood - hence the snipe at the developers. Now that I'm venting up on the soapbox as it were, I'd like to say this - I can remember a couple of times seeing it requested on this list that we be able to disable the Copyright headers that are displayed when doing commandline functions with the admin client. I would think that would be a fairly simple thing to implement. Perhaps a command line switch to eliminate the header and trailer... If we just can't be eliminated, could it at least be made a consistent length between the -tabdelimited, -commadelimited and unformatted output? On another note, I just spent a week in training for another vendor's product and friends, the grass looks lot less greener over there... OK, I'm off the soapbox. I'll shut up. In three months I'll be wishing this was the worst I had to complain about. -Original Message- From: Kauffman, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Stop Bagging TSM Developers. And for my 2 cents worth, I see this as a TSM management and not development problem. There seems to be no regression test suite, and no change control/revision control process. Tom Kauffman NIBCO, Inc. -Original Message- From: Jolliff, Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 9:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Stop Bagging TSM Developers. Just my opinion, but based on the bug releases of late, they are doing a pretty good bagging job on their own.
Residency Announcement: TI-A303 Tivoli Storage Management Concepts, Getting Started with TSM - Update
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Re: Tape question
You will probably need the nested form of the query, something like... select a.volume_name from volumeusage where blah blah blah and - a.volumn_name in (select b.volume_name from volumes where - last_write_datecurrent date - 60 day) We are requesting an enhancement for restore/retrieve -preview option, thru the SHARE requirements process; so far, no official response from development. Also, I am working with some folks to capture tape vol list via server trace, for backup data; don't yet know if this technique would work for archive data. Finally, I previously worked with a client that did a retrieve like this; as I recall, tapes outside the silo were marked unavailable or offsite (don't recall which one), and the retrieve was run repeatedly (3 or 4 times) until completion. The unavailable state triggered messages in the activity log for skipped volumes -- they re-ran the retrieve after loading up the missing tapes, all was okay after about three cycles thru that process. (For restore, classic restore previously would run to completion, skipping over unavailable/offsite vols, listing the tapes in ActLog; no query restore dies on the first missing tape --- have not checked this technique on v4 or v5, so a caveat emptor). Hope some of this helps! Don France Technical Architect -- Tivoli Certified Consultant Tivoli Storage Manager, WinNT/2K, AIX/Unix, OS/390 San Jose, Ca (408) 257-3037 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (change aye to a for replies) Professional Association of Contract Employees (P.A.C.E. -- www.pacepros.com) -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Remeta, Mark Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 9:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Tape question This works good however I only want the tapes from the last archive I ran which was the first of January. This query gives me all the volumes from the beginning of time that have that nodes filespace in it.. clear as mud?
